[K12OSN] System76

Timothy Hart timothy.hart at gmail.com
Tue May 8 13:29:08 UTC 2007


Just noticed there is a system76 laptop on the Ubunut site. Not that it
means anything. Just thought it was funny.
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu

Tim

On 5/8/07, Timothy Hart <timothy.hart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't had that many problems with the nVidia in the past either. ATI,
> now that is another story. A long other story. Plus I would like some
> graphics horsepower in the laptop as I run some 3d apps that could use it.
> Second Life for education anyone?
>
> I agree James that Dell coming on board is a good thing over all. If it
> fails it won't hurt Linux in general. Linux is bigger than that. However it
> will legitimize Linux in the eyes of some people. That is good for us all.
>
> Tim
>
> On 5/8/07, "Terrell Prudé Jr." <microman at cmosnetworks.com> wrote:
>
> >  That's probably because that Marvell piece of junk is cheaper and he
> > thought he could pull a fast one.  I've seen that trick many, many times.
> > Way to catch him, and make sure that his boss's boss knows.
> >
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> > Daniel Bodanske wrote:
> >
> > I ordered a new computer from the local shop last week. I went all
> > Intel specifically because the drivers were in the kernel and I
> > wouldn't have to mess around with anything. I gave the tech a list of
> > specific, well-supported chips.
> >
> > I picked it up last night, went to install Ubuntu 7.04, and found he'd
> > slipped a crap Marvel wireless card in instead of the Intel Pro I had
> > ordered.
> >
> > Sometimes, even when you research and plan, you still can't get things
> > to work.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On 5/8/07, Jason Neiffer <neiffer at gmail.com> <neiffer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have had great luck with the nVidia drivers, too, especially in
> > Ubuntu.
> > With the new closed-source driver install system in Ubuntu 7.04, it was
> > literally three clicks to install.
> >
> > jn
> >
> >
> >  On 5/7/07, James P. Kinney III <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com><jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 21:03 -0400, "Terrell Prudé Jr." wrote:
> > > > I'd ditch the nVidious graphics if at all possible and go for
> > laptops
> > > > that have Intel video.  If anything, that should make it cost
> > *less*.
> > > > You're right; purchase price cannot be the only determining factor.
> > > > You've also got to ask yourself how much it's going to cost you in
> > > > time to make some nVidious or Broadcom crap actually work with
> > > > GNU/Linux.  That time expenditure can, as I found, be very
> > significant
> > > > indeed.
> > > >
> > > NVdia graphics chips always work with Linux. They (NVidia) may not
> > have
> > > an open source driver, but the driver they have is top notch. The
> > > disaster with laptop video happens with the use of shared RAM. All of
> > > the Intel video I have ever seen in a laptop use shared RAM. It is
> > > possible to get dedicated graphics RAM with NVidia chips in laptops.
> > >
> > > Making a laptop work with Linux is no easy matter. The overall
> > quantity
> > > of no-driver hardware on the systems is frustrating. The only
> > advantage
> > > of Dell joining the fray on supplying laptops with Linux is it _may_
> > > help push some stubborn manufacturers into writing drivers for Linux
> > or
> > > opening up their specs so someone else can.
> > >
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> > > >
> > > > Timothy Hart wrote:
> > > > > The prices on system76 don't seem that crazy. Maybe I just haven't
> >
> > > > > compared enough, but looks pretty good to me. Built in camera,
> > > > > nVidia 256MB graphics, non broadcom wireless. I didn't think I was
> >
> > > > > crazy when I thought Dell wasn't doing it yet. I did have a D610
> > > > > running Mepis and a couple other distros. Took me a while to get
> > the
> > > > > wireless going but it worked eventually.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, I have no problem with a company making a profit. Far from
> > it.
> > > > > I just like it when companies embrace open source as a business
> > > > > model. Yes, Dell is "finally" getting on board. I don't want to
> > get
> > > > > hosed on price, but it isn't the only thing I am looking for. That
> >
> > > > > is why I am wondering about what others think.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/7/07, Jonathan Carter < jonathan at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > > > >         Hi Timothy
> > > > >
> > > > >         Timothy Hart wrote:
> > > > >         > Has anyone ever used any of the laptops from system76
> > > > >         > (http://system76.com). I need a new Linux laptop and
> > heard
> > > > >         about them on
> > > > >         > the Linux Action Show. Wondering if anyone has had some
> > > > >         first hand (or
> > > > >         > second or third) knowledge about them. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >         I've met quite a few System76 laptop users this week (here
> >
> > > > >         at the Ubuntu
> > > > >         developers summit in Spain), and everyone I've met who has
> >
> > > > >         one is quite
> > > > >         happy with their system. The hardware really doesn't look
> > > > >         too bad
> > > > >         either, compared to other decent laptop brands.
> > > > >
> > > > >         -Jonathan
> > > > >
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