[K12OSN] Can printing be "controlled" in the school environment?

Sat May 26 23:58:40 UTC 2007

What about a banner on each page that includes the username of the
person who printed it?  Sure it's ugly, but if the teachers all
understand that it's necessary, would anybody complain?  People would
probably be less likely to leave their print jobs sitting around if
their name is on each page.

-Rob

On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 04:51:47PM -0400, Todd O'Bryan wrote:
> The problem with this is that a *lot* of print jobs in a school are 1-2
> pages, so you end up increasing the amount of paper used by a great deal
> just to deal with the deviants.
> 
> I like the idea of giving students a fixed number of pages at the
> beginning of a semester (perhaps based on which classes they're taking)
> and charging them a per page fee, based on actual costs of
> paper/toner/etc., if they go over.
> 
> Todd
> 
> On Sat, 2007-05-26 at 14:57 -0400, Steven Santos wrote:
> > I would start by adding job separator pages that include job details,
> > including the user account, workstation printed from, printer the job was
> > sent to, time, number of pages, and whatever other details you think you
> > might need.  Then, when you get these abandoned jobs, you know exactly who
> > to deal with.
> > 
> > At one local area high school, kids can print up to their quota, so long as
> > they are not abusing it.  If they abuse it, there print jobs are then sent
> > to a control queue, where a teacher must approve the job before it goes out
> > to the printer.  They did this with Windows, but I am sure it could be
> > hacked using CUPS.
> > 
> >   _____
> > 
> > Steven Santos
> > Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
> > Email: Steven at SimplyCircus.com
> >  Mail: 14 Pierrepont Road
> >        Newton, MA 02462
> > Phone: 617-527-0667
> >   Web: www.SimplyCircus.com <http://www.SimplyCircus.com>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Rita Gibson
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:24 AM
> > > To: K12OSN
> > > Subject: [K12OSN] Can printing be "controlled" in the school
> > > environment?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are we the only school that has this problem, because we allow our kids
> > > to have complete access to computers all over the building all the time?
> > > I happened to substitute for the computer lab teacher last week just two
> > > days of the week. I know of at least three reams of unclaimed printing
> > > in the computer lab (we have two of the network printers in there) just
> > > last week alone! Kids and teachers print things -- they don't want to
> > > look through the pile, or to wait for their job to print, or really even
> > > know where their job went because they didn't pay any attention, and so
> > > they print it again... and again... Our school doesn't have grades per
> > > se, they use portfolios to demonstrate kids' learning. This is high
> > > season for completing portfolio work and every year at this time, I am
> > > reminded of this print problem of trying to control printing.
> > >
> > > http://www.pykota.com/
> > >
> > > Have you ever used this software? Or know of some kind of control
> > > software? I looked at this Pykota website a few years ago, but we were
> > > resolving so many other issues that I never looked at it again. Now that
> > > it is on my mind again, I need to look at it a little more.
> > >
> > > Uncontrolled printing may be a problem whose time has come to solve. I'd
> > > love a software that popped up a message to the user that said "I'm
> > > sorry, but you sent this job to the XYZ printer three minutes ago, are
> > > you sure you want to print it again?" or "I'm sorry, but you sent this
> > > job to the XYZ printer three minutes ago, there are four jobs printing
> > > to that printer ahead of your job, it will be approximately three
> > > minutes before your job will finish, would you like to send this job to
> > > an alternate printer, or wait for this job to print at XYX printer?" Or,
> > > "I'm sorry but you have met your print quota for the day, you must ask a
> > > printer administrator to give you a Exception Key key in order to print
> > > any more pages today." Maybe that's too extreme, however, what I saw
> > > last week was pretty wild with paper all over the floor and on the
> > > tables around the printers, stacks of unclaimed print jobs on the
> > > printer, the network printer in the hallway upstairs was the same, and
> > > sometimes worse. (OMG!, or however the kids would say it.)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rita Gibson
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> > > Cell:  (720) 935-4437
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