From brcisna at eazylivin.net Thu Nov 1 01:52:53 2007 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals Message-ID: <59727.192.168.254.3.1193881973.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Tom, Make sure the following line is in your /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf file. X4_MODULE_01 = glx # add the GLX module by default, blender and the like need it Try setting this in the global section of lts.conf and then also set it "per client" as well. Maybe one or the other will force your particular thin client to make it work. Even if this line is in your lts.conf file it seems some video chip sets,especially on very old pc's circa pentium one's will not do the glx module,though. Of course this is thin client specific,and has nothing to do with what video chipset is in the server. Good luck. Take Care, Barry Cisna From brcisna at eazylivin.net Thu Nov 1 02:02:29 2007 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:02:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [K12OSN] wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals Message-ID: <46193.192.168.254.3.1193882549.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Tom, Make sure the following line is in your /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf file. X4_MODULE_01 = glx # add the GLX module by default, blender and the like need it Try setting this in the global section of lts.conf and then also set it "per client" as well. Maybe one or the other will force your particular thin client to make it work. Even if this line is in your lts.conf file it seems some video chip sets,especially on very old pc's circa pentium one's will not do the glx module,though. Of course this is thin client specific,and has nothing to do with what video chipset is in the server. Good luck. Take Care, Barry Cisna From twolfe at sawback.com Thu Nov 1 07:23:04 2007 From: twolfe at sawback.com (Tom Wolfe) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 03:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals In-Reply-To: <46193.192.168.254.3.1193882549.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> References: <46193.192.168.254.3.1193882549.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Message-ID: <20071101032154.T17863@dyyme.pair.com> Hi Barry, thanks for the tip -- I already have this set as you indicated. I should add that READ-180 is dependent on QuickTime. So it runs QuickTime in wine to launch. Does this give any clues? Regards, Tom Wolfe --- Tom Wolfe, IT Specialist twolfe at sawback.com Stoney Educational Authority tel: (403) 881-2650 Box 238, Morley AB, T0L 1N0 fax: (403) 881-2793 Morley Community School | Chief Jacob Bearspaw School | Ta-otha School On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Barry Cisna wrote: > Tom, > > Make sure the following line is in your /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf file. > > X4_MODULE_01 = glx > # add the GLX module by default, blender and the like need it > > Try setting this in the global section of lts.conf and then also set it > "per client" as well. Maybe one or the other will force your particular > thin client to make it work. > Even if this line is in your lts.conf file it seems some video chip > sets,especially on very old pc's circa pentium one's will not do the glx > module,though. Of course this is thin client specific,and has nothing to > do with what video chipset is in the server. > Good luck. > > Take Care, > > Barry Cisna > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From brcisna at eazylivin.net Thu Nov 1 11:38:45 2007 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:38:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals Message-ID: <52651.216.24.126.66.1193917125.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Tom, If this app requires Quicktime, Do You have a player such as xine & or Mplayer installed,along wit the codecs? You can download and install the quicktime codecs seperatly as well. I'm not sure this will cure your problem though,but thinking it may very well be the fix. Only thing is I don't know why you are still getting the glx error? Go here and have a look: http://www.xinehq.de/ You'll have to click around quite a bit,but you can download a zip package that puts lots of codecs / (Quicktime included) on your server. Take Care, Barry Cisna From cockrell at honeygroveisd.net Thu Nov 1 15:48:44 2007 From: cockrell at honeygroveisd.net (Mark Cockrell) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:48:44 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] SMB/LDAP Question Message-ID: <4729F55C.8030009@honeygroveisd.net> In the very near future a reorganization of our internal network will require that I change the IP address of my primary SMB/LDAP authentication sever. It's a Fedora Core 4 K12LTSP box that was configured by way of Matt Oquist's installer. Is there anything in particular that changing the IP address might break? Any "gotchas" I need to look out for? -- C-ya, Mark ____ "Be careful about reading health books. You might die of a misprint." -- Mark Twain From lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us Thu Nov 1 17:43:16 2007 From: lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us (Kemp, Levi) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:43:16 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals In-Reply-To: <52651.216.24.126.66.1193917125.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> References: <52651.216.24.126.66.1193917125.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Message-ID: >From my experience with the Scholastic and other apps in wine, they tend to try and use the native linux app if it's available, including for quicktime. I would even consider uninstalling quicktime from your wine directory after you get the appropriate codecs for xine or mplayer. Levi Kemp Technology Specialist Bolivar R-I School District 417-328-8943 lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us I stole this quote but I like it ;-) "The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even too sure about that one" --Dennis Hughes, FBI > -----Original Message----- > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Barry Cisna > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:39 AM > To: k12osn at redhat.com > Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 > works on server console, not on terminals > > Tom, > > If this app requires Quicktime, Do You have a player such as > xine & or Mplayer installed,along wit the codecs? You can > download and install the quicktime codecs seperatly as well. > I'm not sure this will cure your problem though,but thinking > it may very well be the fix. Only thing is I don't know why > you are still getting the glx error? > Go here and have a look: > > http://www.xinehq.de/ > > You'll have to click around quite a bit,but you can download > a zip package that puts lots of codecs / (Quicktime included) > on your server. > > Take Care, > > Barry Cisna > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From twolfe at sawback.com Thu Nov 1 18:12:58 2007 From: twolfe at sawback.com (Tom Wolfe) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals In-Reply-To: References: <52651.216.24.126.66.1193917125.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Message-ID: <20071101141159.U36431@dyyme.pair.com> So Levi & Barry you're suggesting that I remove QuickTime? Won't Scholastic's software require a QuickTime installation? I'll give it a shot tomorrow when I'm back at that school. Regards, Tom Wolfe --- Tom Wolfe, IT Specialist twolfe at sawback.com Stoney Educational Authority tel: (403) 881-2650 Box 238, Morley AB, T0L 1N0 fax: (403) 881-2793 Morley Community School | Chief Jacob Bearspaw School | Ta-otha School On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Kemp, Levi wrote: >> From my experience with the Scholastic and other apps in wine, they tend > to try and use the native linux app if it's available, including for > quicktime. I would even consider uninstalling quicktime from your wine > directory after you get the appropriate codecs for xine or mplayer. > > Levi Kemp > Technology Specialist > Bolivar R-I School District > 417-328-8943 > lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us > > I stole this quote but I like it ;-) > > "The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and > buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even > too sure about that one" > > --Dennis Hughes, FBI > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com >> [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Barry Cisna >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:39 AM >> To: k12osn at redhat.com >> Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 >> works on server console, not on terminals >> >> Tom, >> >> If this app requires Quicktime, Do You have a player such as >> xine & or Mplayer installed,along wit the codecs? You can >> download and install the quicktime codecs seperatly as well. >> I'm not sure this will cure your problem though,but thinking >> it may very well be the fix. Only thing is I don't know why >> you are still getting the glx error? >> Go here and have a look: >> >> http://www.xinehq.de/ >> >> You'll have to click around quite a bit,but you can download >> a zip package that puts lots of codecs / (Quicktime included) >> on your server. >> >> Take Care, >> >> Barry Cisna >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From twolfe at sawback.com Thu Nov 1 18:15:11 2007 From: twolfe at sawback.com (Tom Wolfe) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals In-Reply-To: <20071101141159.U36431@dyyme.pair.com> References: <52651.216.24.126.66.1193917125.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> <20071101141159.U36431@dyyme.pair.com> Message-ID: <20071101141430.P36431@dyyme.pair.com> One other thing, maybe the reason I'm getting the glx error is because I was running QuickTime in Safe Mode (GDI only)? I'll keep you updated, thanks for the ideas. Regards, Tom Wolfe --- Tom Wolfe, IT Specialist twolfe at sawback.com Stoney Educational Authority tel: (403) 881-2650 Box 238, Morley AB, T0L 1N0 fax: (403) 881-2793 Morley Community School | Chief Jacob Bearspaw School | Ta-otha School On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Tom Wolfe wrote: > So Levi & Barry you're suggesting that I remove QuickTime? Won't Scholastic's > software require a QuickTime installation? I'll give it a shot tomorrow when > I'm back at that school. > > Regards, > Tom Wolfe > > --- > Tom Wolfe, IT Specialist twolfe at sawback.com > Stoney Educational Authority tel: (403) 881-2650 > Box 238, Morley AB, T0L 1N0 fax: (403) 881-2793 > Morley Community School | Chief Jacob Bearspaw School | Ta-otha School > > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Kemp, Levi wrote: > >>> From my experience with the Scholastic and other apps in wine, they tend >> to try and use the native linux app if it's available, including for >> quicktime. I would even consider uninstalling quicktime from your wine >> directory after you get the appropriate codecs for xine or mplayer. >> >> Levi Kemp >> Technology Specialist >> Bolivar R-I School District >> 417-328-8943 >> lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us >> >> I stole this quote but I like it ;-) >> >> "The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and >> buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even >> too sure about that one" >> >> --Dennis Hughes, FBI >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com >>> [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Barry Cisna >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:39 AM >>> To: k12osn at redhat.com >>> Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 >>> works on server console, not on terminals >>> >>> Tom, >>> >>> If this app requires Quicktime, Do You have a player such as >>> xine & or Mplayer installed,along wit the codecs? You can >>> download and install the quicktime codecs seperatly as well. >>> I'm not sure this will cure your problem though,but thinking >>> it may very well be the fix. Only thing is I don't know why >>> you are still getting the glx error? >>> Go here and have a look: >>> >>> http://www.xinehq.de/ >>> >>> You'll have to click around quite a bit,but you can download >>> a zip package that puts lots of codecs / (Quicktime included) >>> on your server. >>> >>> Take Care, >>> >>> Barry Cisna >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us Thu Nov 1 18:28:13 2007 From: simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us (Doug Simpson) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:28:13 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] bash script help Message-ID: <4729D46E0200007800003D9A@leopards.k12.ar.us> Great! I'll try this one! Thanks. . . Doug Doug Simpson Technology Specialist De Queen Public Schools De Queen, AR simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us >>> Les Mikesell 10/31/07 7:23 AM >>> Doug Simpson wrote: > Is it just not possible to make a bash script run in a continuous loop? Yes, note the outer loop of while : do [...] done The : statement does nothing but evaluates 'true' so the loop runs forever. > Your solution looks to be about the easiest to do, but, like the rest, > has no provision for the "restart at the top of the list again" part. Try it. It will wait 30 seconds after it restarts the loop. > In your solution, would I need the text to log in quotes if it were more than one word so it wouldn't think it was more than one variable? > > like: > 10.40.12.3 "This hostname is down." In a read statement, the line is split on white space (actually $IFS so it coud be changed) and assigned to the variables in the list. All remaining variables go to the last variable. So you don't need to quote, although multiple spaces might get collapsed to one if you don't quote the variable in the echo like "$TEXT" > And, will it not report anything if the host is *not* down? For the > purpose, I need it to sit there quietly running until it sees that a > host is actually down before it takes any action. Then it reports, > and continues on to the next one and so on. Yes the || construct means 'or' and the right side won't happen unless the left side fails (returns a non-zero status). > What does this line do?: > done I'd make a text file in the form: > > ip_address text to log > > And use a script like: > > #!/bin/bash > while : > sleep 30 > do > while read ADD TEXT > ping -i 3 -c 3 $ADD || echo $TEXT >>serverdown.txt > done done -- Les Mikesell les at futuresource.com _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From dtrask at vcsvikings.org Thu Nov 1 19:44:38 2007 From: dtrask at vcsvikings.org (David Trask) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:44:38 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Anyone have a GrandCentral invite? Message-ID: Hi, I would like to try GrandCentral which is still in beta....does anyone have any invites to give? If so, I would love to have one. :-) David N. Trask Technology Teacher/Director Vassalboro Community School dtrask at vcsvikings.org (207)923-3100 From dtrask at vcsvikings.org Thu Nov 1 20:29:28 2007 From: dtrask at vcsvikings.org (David Trask) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:29:28 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Local Apps! Let the celebration begin! They did it Message-ID: We're here at the Ubuntu Developers Summit in Boston....Scott Balneaves, Eric Harrison, Francis Giraldeau, and Stephan Graber worked into the wee hours of the morning to finally get local apps on LTSP working! Read all about it here! Way to go guys! http://digg.com/linux_unix/Major_new_development_easy_locals_apps_on_thin_clients_in_LTSP David N. Trask Technology Teacher/Director Vassalboro Community School dtrask at vcsvikings.org (207)923-3100 From dhuckaby at paasda.org Thu Nov 1 21:44:19 2007 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:44:19 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Local Apps! Let the celebration begin! They did it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472A48B3.9060600@paasda.org> [quote]Look for local apps on LTSP coming to a server near you![/quote] I'm look'n!!! just a pre-release? no details? my mouth is watering here... throw a dog a bone ;) David Trask wrote: > We're here at the Ubuntu Developers Summit in Boston....Scott Balneaves, > Eric Harrison, Francis Giraldeau, and Stephan Graber worked into the wee > hours of the morning to finally get local apps on LTSP working! Read all > about it here! Way to go guys! > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Major_new_development_easy_locals_apps_on_thin_clients_in_LTSP > > David N. Trask > Technology Teacher/Director > Vassalboro Community School > dtrask at vcsvikings.org > (207)923-3100 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From dtrask at vcsvikings.org Thu Nov 1 20:43:05 2007 From: dtrask at vcsvikings.org (David Trask) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:43:05 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Local Apps! Let the celebration begin! They did it In-Reply-To: <472A48B3.9060600@paasda.org> References: <472A48B3.9060600@paasda.org> Message-ID: Huck, the beer isn't even gone yet....it'll be a while....they just coded it last night...now it's time to polish and implement. "Support list for open source software in schools." writes: >[quote]Look for local apps on LTSP coming to a server near you![/quote] > >I'm look'n!!! just a pre-release? no details? my mouth is watering >here... throw a dog a bone ;) > >David Trask wrote: >> We're here at the Ubuntu Developers Summit in Boston....Scott Balneaves, >> Eric Harrison, Francis Giraldeau, and Stephan Graber worked into the wee >> hours of the morning to finally get local apps on LTSP working! Read >all >> about it here! Way to go guys! >> >> >http://digg.com/linux_unix/Major_new_development_easy_locals_apps_on_thin_clients_in_LTSP >> >> David N. Trask >> Technology Teacher/Director >> Vassalboro Community School >> dtrask at vcsvikings.org >> (207)923-3100 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >K12OSN mailing list >K12OSN at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >For more info see David N. Trask Technology Teacher/Director Vassalboro Community School dtrask at vcsvikings.org (207)923-3100 From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Thu Nov 1 21:53:37 2007 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:53:37 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Local Apps! Let the celebration begin! They did it In-Reply-To: References: <472A48B3.9060600@paasda.org> Message-ID: <1193954017.3960.1038.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 16:43 -0400, David Trask wrote: > Huck, the beer isn't even gone yet....it'll be a while....they just coded > it last night...now it's time to polish and implement. If the hold up is an excess of beer I can be persuaded to relieve them of that obligation :) This is the near point holy grail for large scale adoption. I am _so_ tired of hearing "But I can play all the streaming video I want on _windows_". I have a test bench nearly ready so when ever the code is up for testing find a posting point and let me know. We have a some very low end thin clients up to 1.2GHz celery machines to test with. > > "Support list for open source software in schools." > writes: > >[quote]Look for local apps on LTSP coming to a server near you![/quote] > > > >I'm look'n!!! just a pre-release? no details? my mouth is watering > >here... throw a dog a bone ;) > > > >David Trask wrote: > >> We're here at the Ubuntu Developers Summit in Boston....Scott Balneaves, > >> Eric Harrison, Francis Giraldeau, and Stephan Graber worked into the wee > >> hours of the morning to finally get local apps on LTSP working! Read > >all > >> about it here! Way to go guys! > >> > >> > >http://digg.com/linux_unix/Major_new_development_easy_locals_apps_on_thin_clients_in_LTSP > >> > >> David N. Trask > >> Technology Teacher/Director > >> Vassalboro Community School > >> dtrask at vcsvikings.org > >> (207)923-3100 > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> K12OSN mailing list > >> K12OSN at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > >> For more info see > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >K12OSN mailing list > >K12OSN at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > >For more info see > > > > David N. Trask > Technology Teacher/Director > Vassalboro Community School > dtrask at vcsvikings.org > (207)923-3100 > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -- James P. Kinney III CEO & Director of Engineering Local Net Solutions,LLC 770-493-8244 http://www.localnetsolutions.com GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. 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Way to go guys! > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/Major_new_development_easy_locals_apps_on_thin_clients_in_LTSP I'll just mention quick that this is for LTSP5. I saw Scott's posts about this yesterday, I'm still excited. Jim -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Cotter Technology Department, and is believed to be clean. From jhansknecht at hanstech.com Fri Nov 2 14:05:29 2007 From: jhansknecht at hanstech.com (John Hansknecht) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:05:29 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Problem with usb sticks on K12ltsp 6.0 Message-ID: <1194012329.6121.6.camel@143NB-01> We are running k12ltsp 6.0 and are having a problem with usb sticks. The probem is flash drives work just fine if a student accesses them through DRIVES and the proper folder. However, when a student attaches a flash drive, a shortcut also appears on the desktop. If a student tries to save through the Desktop path instead of the DRIVES path, there's a general I/O error. Does anyone know if there is a fix for this or is there a setting I can change so that the shortcut doesn't appear on the Desktop? Thanks for any help you can provide, John Hansknecht From dhbarr at gozelle.com Fri Nov 2 14:37:41 2007 From: dhbarr at gozelle.com (David H. Barr) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:37:41 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Local Apps! Let the celebration begin! They did it In-Reply-To: <20071102130551.M41222@winonacotter.org> References: <20071102130551.M41222@winonacotter.org> Message-ID: On 11/2/07, Jim Kronebusch wrote: > On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:29:28 -0400, David Trask wrote > > We're here at the Ubuntu Developers Summit in Boston....Scott Balneaves, > > Eric Harrison, Francis Giraldeau, and Stephan Graber worked into the wee > > hours of the morning to finally get local apps on LTSP working! Read all > > about it here! Way to go guys! > I'll just mention quick that this is for LTSP5. > I saw Scott's posts about this yesterday, I'm still excited. dhbarr 15 hours ago Fantastic; is this on-track for inclusion in 8.04 Hardy, the next LTS release? dtrask 10 hours ago Yes it is This is fantastic news! For those who don't keep tabs on Ubuntu release schedules, this means that around April 2008 we'll have a 5-year stable platform for LTSP servers with local apps. While I hesitate to prognosticate, my gut tells me we'll see a similar release somewhere around April-June 2010, as well. Having an every-few-years upgrade cycle to plan around... priceless! -dhbarr. From twolfe at sawback.com Fri Nov 2 16:00:56 2007 From: twolfe at sawback.com (Tom Wolfe) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals In-Reply-To: References: <52651.216.24.126.66.1193917125.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Message-ID: <20071102115651.R10743@dyyme.pair.com> Levi, To recap: I have Scholastic Read 180 running under wine on the server with a wine install of Quicktime. I get a "glx missing" error when trying to run it remotely from a workstation. I do have glx enabled in lts.conf. Following up on suggestions from Levi & Barry, I removed the wine install of QuickTime but get a fatal error: "QuickTime 6.5 is required to run Read 180. Please see your teacher for help." So, teachers, any suggestions? I do have mplayer installed, it runs quicktime files flawlessly. Any way to trick Read 180 under wine into using mplayer? Regards, Tom Wolfe --- Tom Wolfe, IT Specialist twolfe at sawback.com Stoney Educational Authority tel: (403) 881-2650 Box 238, Morley AB, T0L 1N0 fax: (403) 881-2793 Morley Community School | Chief Jacob Bearspaw School | Ta-otha School On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Kemp, Levi wrote: >> From my experience with the Scholastic and other apps in wine, they tend > to try and use the native linux app if it's available, including for > quicktime. I would even consider uninstalling quicktime from your wine > directory after you get the appropriate codecs for xine or mplayer. > > Levi Kemp > Technology Specialist > Bolivar R-I School District > 417-328-8943 > lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us > > I stole this quote but I like it ;-) > > "The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and > buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even > too sure about that one" > > --Dennis Hughes, FBI > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com >> [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Barry Cisna >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:39 AM >> To: k12osn at redhat.com >> Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 >> works on server console, not on terminals >> >> Tom, >> >> If this app requires Quicktime, Do You have a player such as >> xine & or Mplayer installed,along wit the codecs? You can >> download and install the quicktime codecs seperatly as well. >> I'm not sure this will cure your problem though,but thinking >> it may very well be the fix. Only thing is I don't know why >> you are still getting the glx error? >> Go here and have a look: >> >> http://www.xinehq.de/ >> >> You'll have to click around quite a bit,but you can download >> a zip package that puts lots of codecs / (Quicktime included) >> on your server. >> >> Take Care, >> >> Barry Cisna >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From mel at melwade.com Fri Nov 2 17:17:34 2007 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:17:34 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD Message-ID: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> My 500G Hard drive has filled up. In looking around I've found 440G in /var/log/acpid.1 What is this file? Can I safely delete it? Cause? -- Mel Wade "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner http://www.melwade.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From caldodge at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 17:21:40 2007 From: caldodge at gmail.com (Calvin Dodge) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:21:40 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 2, 2007 11:17 AM, Mel Wade wrote: > My 500G Hard drive has filled up. In looking around I've found 440G in > /var/log/acpid.1 What is this file? Can I safely delete it? Cause? Yikes! That's weird! Since current events of this sort are being logged to /var/log/acpid, you should be able to delete acpid.1 with impunity. But you might want to keep an eye on /var/log/acpid to see if it's growing quickly (and if so, why). Calvin From morris_r at 4j.lane.edu Fri Nov 2 17:37:50 2007 From: morris_r at 4j.lane.edu (Roger Morris) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:37:50 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472B606E.7010809@4j.lane.edu> Calvin Dodge wrote: > On Nov 2, 2007 11:17 AM, Mel Wade wrote: >> My 500G Hard drive has filled up. In looking around I've found 440G in >> /var/log/acpid.1 What is this file? Can I safely delete it? Cause? > > Yikes! That's weird! > > Since current events of this sort are being logged to /var/log/acpid, > you should be able to delete acpid.1 with impunity. But you might > want to keep an eye on /var/log/acpid to see if it's growing quickly > (and if so, why). or, take a look at the acpid.1 log and see what caused it to grow so large. roger From dyioulos at firstbhph.com Fri Nov 2 18:08:21 2007 From: dyioulos at firstbhph.com (Dimitri Yioulos) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:08:21 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Script question Message-ID: <200711021408.21936.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Hello, all. First, as an off-topic item, congratulations to Eric, Scott, Francis, and Stephen., for their work on local apps. Most excellent! Now, my question: I've created a script that gives a user the ability to do certain tasks. The user is brought right to the menu at login by adding a reference to the script in .bash_profile. One of the menu options is to exit the menu. Right now, that simpy dumps the user back to his shell prompt. What I'd like it to do is to log the user out of the system. I've tried coming up with something, and have googled, but can't seem to come up with the solution. Is it possible? If so, can anyone help? With thanks, Dimitri -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From mel at melwade.com Fri Nov 2 18:22:20 2007 From: mel at melwade.com (Mel Wade) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:22:20 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <472B606E.7010809@4j.lane.edu> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> <472B606E.7010809@4j.lane.edu> Message-ID: <43080f460711021122r40bc4c97nc7093be70ae17cc2@mail.gmail.com> Deleting it did the trick. It was so big that I couldn't open it with vi I'll just have to watch it as we go foward. Thanks. -- Mel Wade "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF Skinner http://www.melwade.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toddobryan at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 18:33:24 2007 From: toddobryan at gmail.com (Todd O'Bryan) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:33:24 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <43080f460711021122r40bc4c97nc7093be70ae17cc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> <472B606E.7010809@4j.lane.edu> <43080f460711021122r40bc4c97nc7093be70ae17cc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <904774730711021133k1efe333an233dfeccd7a6d75@mail.gmail.com> less will usually open really large files without a problem, just for future reference. On 11/2/07, Mel Wade wrote: > Deleting it did the trick. It was so big that I couldn't open it with vi > I'll just have to watch it as we go foward. > > Thanks. > > -- > Mel Wade > "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF > Skinner > http://www.melwade.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From rowens at bio-chemvalve.com Fri Nov 2 18:10:21 2007 From: rowens at bio-chemvalve.com (Rob Owens) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:10:21 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472B680D.8000603@bio-chemvalve.com> In the future, try putting /var in its own partition so that this type of stuff doesn't cause your system to crash. -Rob Mel Wade wrote: > My 500G Hard drive has filled up. In looking around I've found 440G in > /var/log/acpid.1 What is this file? Can I safely delete it? Cause? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From ascensiontech at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 18:35:23 2007 From: ascensiontech at gmail.com (Peter Hartmann) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:35:23 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <43080f460711021122r40bc4c97nc7093be70ae17cc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> <472B606E.7010809@4j.lane.edu> <43080f460711021122r40bc4c97nc7093be70ae17cc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bd317560711021135t2f07d6acl5cddf8e3d594915f@mail.gmail.com> you can always truncate it a bit so it's readable in vi. tail -n 200 bigassfile > smallerfile P On 11/2/07, Mel Wade wrote: > Deleting it did the trick. It was so big that I couldn't open it with vi > I'll just have to watch it as we go foward. > > Thanks. > > -- > Mel Wade > "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF > Skinner > http://www.melwade.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Fri Nov 2 18:36:01 2007 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:36:01 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <904774730711021133k1efe333an233dfeccd7a6d75@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> <472B606E.7010809@4j.lane.edu> <43080f460711021122r40bc4c97nc7093be70ae17cc2@mail.gmail.com> <904774730711021133k1efe333an233dfeccd7a6d75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <994441ae0711021136w47d3d842x47362b49496eea1c@mail.gmail.com> Or just "head" or "tail" to see the start and end. -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 On 11/2/07, Todd O'Bryan wrote: > less will usually open really large files without a problem, just for > future reference. > > On 11/2/07, Mel Wade wrote: > > Deleting it did the trick. It was so big that I couldn't open it with vi > > I'll just have to watch it as we go foward. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Mel Wade > > "The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do." - BF > > Skinner > > http://www.melwade.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From julius at turtle.com Fri Nov 2 18:38:18 2007 From: julius at turtle.com (Julius Szelagiewicz) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Script question In-Reply-To: <200711021408.21936.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > I've created a script that gives a user the ability to do certain tasks. The > user is brought right to the menu at login by adding a reference to the > script in .bash_profile. One of the menu options is to exit the menu. Right > now, that simpy dumps the user back to his shell prompt. What I'd like it to > do is to log the user out of the system. I've tried coming up with > something, and have googled, but can't seem to come up with the solution. Is > it possible? If so, can anyone help? Dimitri, it is rather easy: in .bash_profile have the following: my_script exit After "my_script" is executed, the .bash_profile takes over and logs out the user. julius From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Fri Nov 2 18:51:07 2007 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:51:07 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Script question In-Reply-To: <200711021408.21936.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> References: <200711021408.21936.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Message-ID: <1194029467.3960.1128.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 14:08 -0400, Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > Hello, all. > > First, as an off-topic item, congratulations to Eric, Scott, Francis, and > Stephen., for their work on local apps. Most excellent! > > Now, my question: > > I've created a script that gives a user the ability to do certain tasks. The > user is brought right to the menu at login by adding a reference to the > script in .bash_profile. One of the menu options is to exit the menu. Right > now, that simpy dumps the user back to his shell prompt. What I'd like it to > do is to log the user out of the system. I've tried coming up with > something, and have googled, but can't seem to come up with the solution. Is > it possible? If so, can anyone help? At the end of the script that is launched from .bash_profile add a logout at the last line. Make sure the script that runs the menu is not ending with a "&". This way the scripts get run in order. When one finishes the next runs until the last one, logout, then they are out. > > With thanks, > > Dimitri > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -- James P. Kinney III CEO & Director of Engineering Local Net Solutions,LLC 770-493-8244 http://www.localnetsolutions.com GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From les at futuresource.com Fri Nov 2 19:04:04 2007 From: les at futuresource.com (Les Mikesell) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:04:04 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] URGENT: Full HD In-Reply-To: <904774730711021133k1efe333an233dfeccd7a6d75@mail.gmail.com> References: <43080f460711021017w3d79cd18tdde3a0ee7aa825f@mail.gmail.com> <824a5f7a0711021021rca44bf6oe9893021caea233e@mail.gmail.com> <472B606E.7010809@4j.lane.edu> <43080f460711021122r40bc4c97nc7093be70ae17cc2@mail.gmail.com> <904774730711021133k1efe333an233dfeccd7a6d75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472B74A4.4000509@futuresource.com> Todd O'Bryan wrote: > less will usually open really large files without a problem, just for > future reference. Vi will open big files, but it makes a copy first which is a problem when you are out of space. Less doesn't need the copy. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com From dyioulos at firstbhph.com Fri Nov 2 19:25:42 2007 From: dyioulos at firstbhph.com (Dimitri Yioulos) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:25:42 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Script question In-Reply-To: <200711021408.21936.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> References: <200711021408.21936.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Message-ID: <200711021525.42825.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> On Friday 02 November 2007 2:08 pm, Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > Hello, all. > > First, as an off-topic item, congratulations to Eric, Scott, Francis, and > Stephen., for their work on local apps. Most excellent! > > Now, my question: > > I've created a script that gives a user the ability to do certain tasks. > The user is brought right to the menu at login by adding a reference to the > script in .bash_profile. One of the menu options is to exit the menu. > Right now, that simpy dumps the user back to his shell prompt. What I'd > like it to do is to log the user out of the system. I've tried coming up > with something, and have googled, but can't seem to come up with the > solution. Is it possible? If so, can anyone help? > > With thanks, > > Dimitri Thanks to Julius and James -- worked like a charm (and so easy, too :-) )! Dimitri -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From adiantof at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 19:27:45 2007 From: adiantof at gmail.com (Fajar Adianto) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 02:27:45 +0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Cable Problem? Message-ID: <11a0d9090711031227o7e0dcb81n4f9da15515e58cdd@mail.gmail.com> I build my LTSP network consists 1 server and 10 clients.7 clients work fine, but the rest failed. Sometimes the hung upon searching DHCP server, sometimes when they start begin downloading kernel. All the three use RTL8139C lan cards, while the others use other various type. I used DLink swicth hub. However when I try to move one of the three client PC to connect it to another LAN cable end (the shorter cable used to be connected to one of the seven), it work smoothly. So up here I concluded the it were cable problem. I have tested the failed cables with cable tester, it showed that the cables were fine. What might be wrong? Is there any requirements on cable or lan card used in LTSP? Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks. Fajar. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Nov 4 13:57:26 2007 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:57:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Cable Problem? Message-ID: <52521.192.168.254.3.1194184646.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Fajar, Is the Dlink switch/hub you are using an autosensing switch? If it is the older models with the "push button" on the front to change from FDX, etc,throw it. Get an newer cheapie/whatever brand autosensing switch. I would bet it is your switch rather than the wires/LAN card that is giving you probs. Another possibility is if you do not have your ltsp lan isolated from your existing lan , you may have another dhcp server running ,and you are just randomly linking to the actual ltsp server one time,then the next bootup the clients are getting confused as to which dhcp server for ip numbers etc. The voice of experience talking here! Let us know your progress. Take Care, Barry Cisna From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Nov 4 14:44:16 2007 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 08:44:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: [K12OSN] Re: wine question -- Scholastic READ180 works on server console, not on terminals Message-ID: <44940.192.168.254.3.1194187456.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Tom, To verify that your Mplayer is playing different versions of Quicktime files go here and test to make sure your player has codecs for all the QT file formats: http://index.apple.com/~singer/sequences/testseq.html If these all work and your program launches ok from the console but not on terminals I would guess you need to create a seperate launcher on the desktop to start the program for EACH user at the desktop not from the Wine Start menu,The symlinks must be not cooperating. Scratch head a little more? Rethink,, Take Care, Barry Cisna From krsnendu108 at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 19:10:06 2007 From: krsnendu108 at gmail.com (Krsnendu dasa) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 08:10:06 +1300 Subject: [K12OSN] Scripting help make link desktop to old home folder Message-ID: We have moved our users to a new server. We have created new home directories for each user. Users would like to access their previous home directories to access files. Can someone help me with a script to create a link on the desktop to their old files. I have the basic logic of it but don't know the commands. The script will be something like: For all users do this ln -s /home/old/home/ /home//desktop/oldhome Just need to figure out how to get the user name into the command and recurse the usernames. Probably the easiest way is to go through the /home directory and strip off the /home/ part to get the username. Can anyone help me out? It seems simple in theory. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have created new home > directories for each user. > Users would like to access their previous home directories to access files. > Can someone help me with a script to create a link on the desktop to their > old files. > > I have the basic logic of it but don't know the commands. > > The script will be something like: > > For all users do this > ln -s /home/old/home/ > /home//desktop/oldhome > > Just need to figure out how to get the user name into the command and > recurse the usernames. > Probably the easiest way is to go through the /home directory and strip off > the /home/ part to get the username. > > Can anyone help me out? It seems simple in theory. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From krsnendu108 at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 20:12:28 2007 From: krsnendu108 at gmail.com (Krsnendu dasa) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:12:28 +1300 Subject: [K12OSN] Scripting help make link desktop to old home folder In-Reply-To: <9bd317560711041124o24252ed4p2c165283d672667d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9bd317560711041124o24252ed4p2c165283d672667d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We migrated from K12ltsp to Feisty. It seemed cleaner (config files etc) to make new home directories, give them a week or so to copy what they want then delete the old one. We still have a backup if necessary. On 05/11/2007, Peter Hartmann wrote: > > Why the new homes? What was wrong with mounting old ones on the new > server? > > $USER is the environment variable for the current user. > > Peter > > On 11/4/07, Krsnendu dasa wrote: > > We have moved our users to a new server. We have created new home > > directories for each user. > > Users would like to access their previous home directories to access > files. > > Can someone help me with a script to create a link on the desktop to > their > > old files. > > > > I have the basic logic of it but don't know the commands. > > > > The script will be something like: > > > > For all users do this > > ln -s /home/old/home/ > > /home//desktop/oldhome > > > > Just need to figure out how to get the user name into the command and > > recurse the usernames. > > Probably the easiest way is to go through the /home directory and strip > off > > the /home/ part to get the username. > > > > Can anyone help me out? It seems simple in theory. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Sun Nov 4 22:52:22 2007 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:52:22 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Scripting help make link desktop to old home folder In-Reply-To: References: <9bd317560711041124o24252ed4p2c165283d672667d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194216742.3960.1143.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> Since all of the config stuff is in . files, copy all of the files over and that won't break the new configs. cp -arp assuming a mounted old home that is accessable to root. You can use: cd /home for name in `ls -1` do ln -s //$name /home/$name/Desktop/Old_Files done On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 09:12 +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote: > We migrated from K12ltsp to Feisty. It seemed cleaner (config files > etc) to make new home directories, give them a week or so to copy what > they want then delete the old one. We still have a backup if > necessary. > > On 05/11/2007, Peter Hartmann wrote: > Why the new homes? What was wrong with mounting old ones on > the new server? > > $USER is the environment variable for the current user. > > Peter > > On 11/4/07, Krsnendu dasa wrote: > > We have moved our users to a new server. We have created new > home > > directories for each user. > > Users would like to access their previous home directories > to access files. > > Can someone help me with a script to create a link on the > desktop to their > > old files. > > > > I have the basic logic of it but don't know the commands. > > > > The script will be something like: > > > > For all users do this > > ln -s /home/old/home/ > > /home//desktop/oldhome > > > > Just need to figure out how to get the user name into the > command and > > recurse the usernames. > > Probably the easiest way is to go through the /home > directory and strip off > > the /home/ part to get the username. > > > > Can anyone help me out? It seems simple in theory. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- James P. Kinney III CEO & Director of Engineering Local Net Solutions,LLC 770-493-8244 http://www.localnetsolutions.com GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kinney III wrote: > > Since all of the config stuff is in . files, copy all of the files over > and that won't break the new configs. > > cp -arp assuming a mounted old home that is > accessable to root. > > You can use: > cd /home > for name in `ls -1` > do > ln -s //$name /home/$name/Desktop/Old_Files > done > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 09:12 +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote: > > We migrated from K12ltsp to Feisty. It seemed cleaner (config files > > etc) to make new home directories, give them a week or so to copy what > > they want then delete the old one. We still have a backup if > > necessary. > > > > On 05/11/2007, Peter Hartmann wrote: > > Why the new homes? What was wrong with mounting old ones on > > the new server? > > > > $USER is the environment variable for the current user. > > > > Peter > > > > On 11/4/07, Krsnendu dasa wrote: > > > We have moved our users to a new server. We have created new > > home > > > directories for each user. > > > Users would like to access their previous home directories > > to access files. > > > Can someone help me with a script to create a link on the > > desktop to their > > > old files. > > > > > > I have the basic logic of it but don't know the commands. > > > > > > The script will be something like: > > > > > > For all users do this > > > ln -s /home/old/home/ > > > /home//desktop/oldhome > > > > > > Just need to figure out how to get the user name into the > > command and > > > recurse the usernames. > > > Probably the easiest way is to go through the /home > > directory and strip off > > > the /home/ part to get the username. > > > > > > Can anyone help me out? It seems simple in theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > K12OSN mailing list > > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > > For more info see > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > -- > James P. Kinney III > CEO & Director of Engineering > Local Net Solutions,LLC > 770-493-8244 > http://www.localnetsolutions.com > > GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) > > Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Mon Nov 5 02:43:18 2007 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:43:18 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Scripting help make link desktop to old home folder In-Reply-To: References: <9bd317560711041124o24252ed4p2c165283d672667d@mail.gmail.com> <1194216742.3960.1143.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> Message-ID: <1194230598.3960.1148.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 15:18 +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote: > Thanks. That did the trick. I made the link. > > Thanks for the info about cp. I was wondering how to copy home > directories without the . files. cp is kind of funny. You have explicitly _include_ the . files. As such, it has it's uses :) A second process would be tar and then overwrite the . files from the /etc/skel . files. If you look in /opt/ltsp/scripts/k12ltsp/ there are a pair of scripts that will either reconfig an individual user or everyone. This is a lifesaver for when someone figures out how to remove all their panels and menus and _then_ discovers they now can'tget anything done :) > > On 05/11/2007, James P. Kinney III > wrote: > Since all of the config stuff is in . files, copy all of the > files over > and that won't break the new configs. > > cp -arp assuming a mounted old home that > is > accessable to root. > > You can use: > cd /home > for name in `ls -1` > do > ln -s //$name /home/$name/Desktop/Old_Files > done > > > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 09:12 +1300, Krsnendu dasa wrote: > > We migrated from K12ltsp to Feisty. It seemed cleaner > (config files > > etc) to make new home directories, give them a week or so to > copy what > > they want then delete the old one. We still have a backup if > > necessary. > > > > On 05/11/2007, Peter Hartmann > wrote: > > Why the new homes? What was wrong with mounting old > ones on > > the new server? > > > > $USER is the environment variable for the current > user. > > > > Peter > > > > On 11/4/07, Krsnendu dasa > wrote: > > > We have moved our users to a new server. We have > created new > > home > > > directories for each user. > > > Users would like to access their previous home > directories > > to access files. > > > Can someone help me with a script to create a link > on the > > desktop to their > > > old files. > > > > > > I have the basic logic of it but don't know the > commands. > > > > > > The script will be something like: > > > > > > For all users do this > > > ln -s /home/old/home/ > > > /home//desktop/oldhome > > > > > > Just need to figure out how to get the user name > into the > > command and > > > recurse the usernames. > > > Probably the easiest way is to go through > the /home > > directory and strip off > > > the /home/ part to get the username. > > > > > > Can anyone help me out? It seems simple in theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > K12OSN mailing list > > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > > For more info see > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see < http://www.k12os.org> > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > -- > James P. Kinney III > CEO & Director of Engineering > Local Net Solutions,LLC > 770-493-8244 > http://www.localnetsolutions.com > > GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. 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Could someone point to what I'm doing wrong please? --thx --joe o'brien From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Mon Nov 5 23:06:03 2007 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:06:03 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP EL 64bit DVD size error In-Reply-To: <472F98AA.5010308@meridian.wednet.edu> References: <472F98AA.5010308@meridian.wednet.edu> Message-ID: <994441ae0711051506x36ee2db4ja9e4c7451af98497@mail.gmail.com> Can you download ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/5.0.0-EL-64bit/dvd/MD5SUMS to the same directory as your DVD iso and do: md5sum -c MD5SUMS -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 On 11/5/07, Joe OBrien wrote: > I'm almost embarrassed to ask, but I keep getting a size error trying to > burn K12LTSP-5.0.0EL-64bit-dvd.iso using cdrecord or k3b. Could someone > point to what I'm doing wrong please? > > --thx > --joe o'brien > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From jobrien at meridian.wednet.edu Mon Nov 5 23:35:02 2007 From: jobrien at meridian.wednet.edu (Joe OBrien) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:35:02 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP EL 64bit DVD size error In-Reply-To: <994441ae0711051506x36ee2db4ja9e4c7451af98497@mail.gmail.com> References: <472F98AA.5010308@meridian.wednet.edu> <994441ae0711051506x36ee2db4ja9e4c7451af98497@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472FA8A6.6070500@meridian.wednet.edu> md5sum checks out fine, here is the error i get from k3b and a blank DVD-R :-( /dev/scd0: 2298496 blocks are free, 2339977 to be written --thx --joe Dan Young wrote: > Can you download > ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/5.0.0-EL-64bit/dvd/MD5SUMS > to the same directory as your DVD iso and do: > > md5sum -c MD5SUMS > > From jkinney at localnetsolutions.com Tue Nov 6 00:52:33 2007 From: jkinney at localnetsolutions.com (James P. Kinney III) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:52:33 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP EL 64bit DVD size error In-Reply-To: <472F98AA.5010308@meridian.wednet.edu> References: <472F98AA.5010308@meridian.wednet.edu> Message-ID: <1194310353.3960.1196.camel@merlin.localnetsolutions.com> On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:26 -0800, Joe OBrien wrote: > I'm almost embarrassed to ask, but I keep getting a size error trying to > burn K12LTSP-5.0.0EL-64bit-dvd.iso using cdrecord or k3b. Could someone > point to what I'm doing wrong please? You're not doing anything wrong. However, to burn a DVD of that disk, you MUST use a dual layer drive and disk. It simply won't fit otherwise. If you have a dual layer drive and get dual layer disks, there is nothing you need to do as it will work automagically. Alternatively, loopback mount that iso image and share it out as a NFS mount or plop it in a web space served by apache. Then just burn the boot CD and start it up with "linux askmethod" and load everything off the network. > > --thx > --joe o'brien > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -- James P. Kinney III CEO & Director of Engineering Local Net Solutions,LLC 770-493-8244 http://www.localnetsolutions.com GPG ID: 829C6CA7 James P. Kinney III (M.S. Physics) Fingerprint = 3C9E 6366 54FC A3FE BA4D 0659 6190 ADC3 829C 6CA7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From adiantof at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 11:56:08 2007 From: adiantof at gmail.com (Fajar Adianto) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:56:08 +0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Cable Problem? In-Reply-To: <52521.192.168.254.3.1194184646.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> References: <52521.192.168.254.3.1194184646.squirrel@www.eazylivin.net> Message-ID: <11a0d9090711060356m6bb3fd35ladf61a467b6174db@mail.gmail.com> Barry, thanks for your suggestion. The switch is autosensing, and I have no other dhcp server running in the same lan. In fact I just found another possibility that may be related to my problem. One of the three failed PCs is now working. After doing some trial (and error), I realized those three have similar board architecture, that the PCI and ISA slots are on separate board from the main board. The board that contains the slots is connected to main board by a big long slot. I am still working on the rest two (a HP Vectra and a Compaq Deskpro). I have tried to break them apart and clean them but still cannot get the same result. Anybody has the same experience? Fajar. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dyioulos at firstbhph.com Tue Nov 6 15:12:12 2007 From: dyioulos at firstbhph.com (Dimitri Yioulos) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:12:12 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] OT - More scripting help Message-ID: <200711061012.12645.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Folks, Sincere apologies if I'm asking questions here that really veer away from L12LTSP, but I've always gotten great, timely responses from you extremely bright people, and so, I go back to the well :-) . Hopefully, the questions/responses are useful to others. As I noted in a previous post, I've created a script for our high school intern that allows him to do certain tasks, such as create accounts, change user passwords, etc. I've given access to the appropriate commands via sudo, and have added the script path and "exit" to the intern's .bash_profile so that at login, he goes directly into a script-generated menu, and upon leaving the menu, he goes back to a login prompt. It all works quite well. Well, almost. A bugaboo that I found was that the intern could change root's password! Not that I don't trust the lad, but I reckon it's just not good policy to allow that. But, how to prevent? I tried the following in his sudo profile (found the Cmnd_Alias "trick" on the Net): Cmnd_Alias PWR=/usr/bin/passwd *root* Cmnd_Alias PW=/usr/bin/passwd [!-]?* user ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd, PW, !PWR, /bin/mkdir, /bin/chown, /bin/chmod, /bin/sed, /bin/cp, /bin/rm, /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd, /usr/local/test4.sh Didn't work - the intern could still change root's pw. I tried "/usr/bin/passwd !root" - n.g. I tried the follwing in my script (not sure about the if/elif/else construct): 2) read -p "Enter username: " USERNAME egrep "^$USERNAME" /etc/passwd >/dev/null if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo echo "User $USERNAME doesn't exist! Create the user first" elif [[ $? == "root" ]]; then echo echo "You're not allowed to change root's password" else sudo /usr/bin/passwd $USERNAME [ $? -eq 0 ] && echo "Password changed!" fi echo echo "Press Enter key" ; read ;; Still no joy - root's pw could be changed. Arrrgh! How can I keep the intern from changing root's password? Your help is most appreciated. Dimitri -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From garza.r.tx at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 16:18:11 2007 From: garza.r.tx at gmail.com (Ray Garza) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:18:11 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] OT - More scripting help In-Reply-To: <200711061012.12645.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> References: <200711061012.12645.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Message-ID: <473093C3.8070704@gmail.com> Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > Folks, > > Sincere apologies if I'm asking questions here that really veer away from > L12LTSP, but I've always gotten great, timely responses from you extremely > bright people, and so, I go back to the well :-) . Hopefully, the > questions/responses are useful to others. > > As I noted in a previous post, I've created a script for our high school > intern that allows him to do certain tasks, such as create accounts, change > user passwords, etc. I've given access to the appropriate commands via sudo, > and have added the script path and "exit" to the intern's .bash_profile so > that at login, he goes directly into a script-generated menu, and upon > leaving the menu, he goes back to a login prompt. It all works quite well. > > Well, almost. A bugaboo that I found was that the intern could change root's > password! Not that I don't trust the lad, but I reckon it's just not good > policy to allow that. But, how to prevent? I tried the following in his > sudo profile (found the Cmnd_Alias "trick" on the Net): > > Cmnd_Alias PWR=/usr/bin/passwd *root* > Cmnd_Alias PW=/usr/bin/passwd [!-]?* > > user ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd, > PW, !PWR, /bin/mkdir, /bin/chown, /bin/chmod, /bin/sed, /bin/cp, /bin/rm, /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd, /usr/local/test4.sh > > Didn't work - the intern could still change root's pw. I > tried "/usr/bin/passwd !root" - n.g. I tried the follwing in my script (not > sure about the if/elif/else construct): > > 2) > > read -p "Enter username: " USERNAME > egrep "^$USERNAME" /etc/passwd >/dev/null > if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then > echo > echo "User $USERNAME doesn't exist! Create the user > first" > elif [[ $? == "root" ]]; then > echo > echo "You're not allowed to change root's password" > else > sudo /usr/bin/passwd $USERNAME > [ $? -eq 0 ] && echo "Password changed!" > fi > echo > echo "Press Enter key" ; read ;; > > Still no joy - root's pw could be changed. Arrrgh! > > How can I keep the intern from changing root's password? Your help is most > appreciated. > > Dimitri > > The $? is numeric not alphnumeric. Change the the line elif [[ $? = "root" ]]; then to elif [[ $USERNAME = "root" ]]; then and it should work. Ray From dyioulos at firstbhph.com Tue Nov 6 16:41:40 2007 From: dyioulos at firstbhph.com (Dimitri Yioulos) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:41:40 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] OT - More scripting help In-Reply-To: <473093C3.8070704@gmail.com> References: <200711061012.12645.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> <473093C3.8070704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711061141.40305.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 11:18 am, Ray Garza wrote: > Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Sincere apologies if I'm asking questions here that really veer away from > > L12LTSP, but I've always gotten great, timely responses from you > > extremely bright people, and so, I go back to the well :-) . Hopefully, > > the questions/responses are useful to others. > > > > As I noted in a previous post, I've created a script for our high school > > intern that allows him to do certain tasks, such as create accounts, > > change user passwords, etc. I've given access to the appropriate > > commands via sudo, and have added the script path and "exit" to the > > intern's .bash_profile so that at login, he goes directly into a > > script-generated menu, and upon leaving the menu, he goes back to a login > > prompt. It all works quite well. > > > > Well, almost. A bugaboo that I found was that the intern could change > > root's password! Not that I don't trust the lad, but I reckon it's just > > not good policy to allow that. But, how to prevent? I tried the > > following in his sudo profile (found the Cmnd_Alias "trick" on the Net): > > > > Cmnd_Alias PWR=/usr/bin/passwd *root* > > Cmnd_Alias PW=/usr/bin/passwd [!-]?* > > > > user ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd, > > PW, !PWR, /bin/mkdir, /bin/chown, /bin/chmod, /bin/sed, /bin/cp, /bin/rm, > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd, /usr/local/test4.sh > > > > Didn't work - the intern could still change root's pw. I > > tried "/usr/bin/passwd !root" - n.g. I tried the follwing in my script > > (not sure about the if/elif/else construct): > > > > 2) > > > > read -p "Enter username: " USERNAME > > egrep "^$USERNAME" /etc/passwd >/dev/null > > if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then > > echo > > echo "User $USERNAME doesn't exist! Create the > > user first" > > elif [[ $? == "root" ]]; then > > echo > > echo "You're not allowed to change root's > > password" else > > sudo /usr/bin/passwd $USERNAME > > [ $? -eq 0 ] && echo "Password changed!" > > fi > > echo > > echo "Press Enter key" ; read ;; > > > > Still no joy - root's pw could be changed. Arrrgh! > > > > How can I keep the intern from changing root's password? Your help is > > most appreciated. > > > > Dimitri > > The $? is numeric not alphnumeric. Change the the line > elif [[ $? = "root" ]]; then > > to > > elif [[ $USERNAME = "root" ]]; then > > and it should work. > > Ray > And indeed it did! I'm most grateful for your help. Dimitri -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From dyioulos at firstbhph.com Tue Nov 6 17:09:24 2007 From: dyioulos at firstbhph.com (Dimitri Yioulos) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:09:24 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] OT - More scripting help In-Reply-To: <9bd317560711060801m679d3606t8f7b56cedce16728@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711061012.12645.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> <9bd317560711060800w2af89df0t239f3854ca99cb6@mail.gmail.com> <9bd317560711060801m679d3606t8f7b56cedce16728@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711061209.24745.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> Hi, Peter. In fact, we use Webmin extensively here. ?However, not on the particular machine in question. ?Hence, the script. Dimitri As an aside to all - we've had a high scool intern at our site for the past four years now. ?The previous intern was with us from his sophomore through his senior years. ?He was a somewhat shy kid when he arrived, but both his social and technical skills were sharpened while he was with us. ?He's now studying CS at Wentworth Institue of Technology. ?We're proud. Dimitri On Tuesday 06 November 2007 11:01 am, you wrote: > > Plus if your running > > smbldap I have modified M. Oquist's slick bulk-user-add script to > > output into a webmin CSV format if you want it. > > Come to think of it you don't need smbldap to take advantage of th > script...I think I'll post it soon. > > > Peter > > On 11/6/07, Peter Hartmann wrote: > > Hey Dimitri, > > I would have mentioned this if I had known your script was doing admin > > tasks for non root users. Have looked at webmin? With it you can > > offer specific tasks to specific webmin users. Plus if your running > > smbldap I have modified M. Oquist's slick bulk-user-add script to > > output into a webmin CSV format if you want it. > > > > > > Peter > > > > On 11/6/07, Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > > > Sincere apologies if I'm asking questions here that really veer away > > > from L12LTSP, but I've always gotten great, timely responses from you > > > extremely bright people, and so, I go back to the well :-) . > > > Hopefully, the questions/responses are useful to others. > > > > > > As I noted in a previous post, I've created a script for our high > > > school intern that allows him to do certain tasks, such as create > > > accounts, change user passwords, etc. I've given access to the > > > appropriate commands via sudo, and have added the script path and > > > "exit" to the intern's .bash_profile so that at login, he goes directly > > > into a script-generated menu, and upon leaving the menu, he goes back > > > to a login prompt. It all works quite well. > > > > > > Well, almost. A bugaboo that I found was that the intern could change > > > root's password! Not that I don't trust the lad, but I reckon it's > > > just not good policy to allow that. But, how to prevent? I tried the > > > following in his sudo profile (found the Cmnd_Alias "trick" on the > > > Net): > > > > > > Cmnd_Alias PWR=/usr/bin/passwd *root* > > > Cmnd_Alias PW=/usr/bin/passwd [!-]?* > > > > > > user ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/useradd, > > > PW, !PWR, /bin/mkdir, /bin/chown, /bin/chmod, /bin/sed, /bin/cp, > > > /bin/rm, /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd, /usr/local/test4.sh > > > > > > Didn't work - the intern could still change root's pw. I > > > tried "/usr/bin/passwd !root" - n.g. I tried the follwing in my script > > > (not sure about the if/elif/else construct): > > > > > > 2) > > > > > > read -p "Enter username: " USERNAME > > > egrep "^$USERNAME" /etc/passwd >/dev/null > > > if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then > > > echo > > > echo "User $USERNAME doesn't exist! Create the > > > user first" > > > elif [[ $? == "root" ]]; then > > > echo > > > echo "You're not allowed to change root's > > > password" else > > > sudo /usr/bin/passwd $USERNAME > > > [ $? -eq 0 ] && echo "Password changed!" > > > fi > > > echo > > > echo "Press Enter key" ; read ;; > > > > > > Still no joy - root's pw could be changed. Arrrgh! > > > > > > How can I keep the intern from changing root's password? Your help is > > > most appreciated. > > > > > > Dimitri > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > K12OSN mailing list > > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > > For more info see -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From moseley at hank.org Tue Nov 6 19:36:51 2007 From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:36:51 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients Message-ID: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> I'm not using K12LTSP, but rather Edubuntu at this time, but a number of people have noted that the K12LTSP project has good support for booting powerpc clients -- and that's where I'm having trouble. I've got an i386 server and both i386 and powerpc clients. I've watched both boot using Wireshark. With the i386 I see the DHCP exchange and the boot file name returned /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0. I then see the client do a request for that file using TFTP. With the powerpc clients I see DHCP go through the same process, except it returns Boot file name: /ltsp/powerpc/yaboot. But then I never see the powerpc client do a TFTP request. Is there an extra parameter that must be passed from DHCPD back to the client that says fetch the file? I'm using a recent G4 powerpc iBook and holding down "n" when booting. I get the flashing network icon. I also tried the option+command+o+f to get to the Open Firmware screen. There I entered: boot enet: 0 and watched the same DHCPD interaction with Wireshark but not TFPT request from the client. The DHCPD server is returning the correct "Next Server" IP address, and also "Server Identifier" with the same IP. Now Open Firmware did time out and respond: BOOTP/BSOP failed: no FILENAME specified can't open: enet:0 But Wireshark is showing the file name. One minor thing that didn't seem right is after a while the iBook sent a DHCP Inform and the dhcpd server responded with DHCP ACK but with a filename /ltsp/i386/nbi.img. I tried taking nice to the Mac, and swearing a bit, too, but it didn't respond. Here's my dhcpd.conf file: authoritative; subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250; option domain-name "example.com"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255; option routers 192.168.0.1; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" { filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; } else { filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; } } group { option root-path "/opt/ltsp/powerpc"; filename "/ltsp/powerpc/yaboot"; # Define powerpc machines by their MAC address. host ibook { hardware ethernet 00:14:51:32:BA:44; fixed-address 192.168.0.15; } host mac1 { hardware ethernet 00:30:65:f3:50:58; } } Thanks, -- Bill Moseley moseley at hank.org From moseley at hank.org Tue Nov 6 19:43:43 2007 From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:43:43 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients In-Reply-To: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> References: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> Message-ID: <20071106194343.GB6861@hank.org> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 11:36:51AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > and watched the same DHCPD interaction with Wireshark but not TFPT > request from the client. > > The DHCPD server is returning the correct "Next Server" IP address, > and also "Server Identifier" with the same IP. > > Now Open Firmware did time out and respond: > > BOOTP/BSOP failed: no FILENAME specified can't open: enet:0 http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-macppc/2007/05/14/0000.html And yes, the mac is sending option 221. So maybe I just need a patched dhcpd server. -- Bill Moseley moseley at hank.org From cliebow at ellsworthschools.org Tue Nov 6 20:04:23 2007 From: cliebow at ellsworthschools.org (Chuck Liebow) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:04:23 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients In-Reply-To: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> References: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> Message-ID: a g4 ibook should boot just fine...you can rip this apart and use it if you like... this is the magic piece that got em going in the first place.. option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; option vendor-encapsulated-options 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82: 05: # length 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname ##########################################3 authoritative; option option-211 code 211=string; option option-211 74:66:74:70; subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250; option domain-name "example.com"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255; option routers 192.168.0.254; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" { filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; } elsif substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = "AAPLBSDPC" { filename "/yaboot"; option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; option vendor-encapsulated-options 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82: 05: # length 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname option root-path "/opt/ltsp/powerpc"; } else{ #filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; filename "/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1/vmlinux-2.4.19-LTSP-IBMNC"; } if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 3) = "d-i" { option root-path "/opt/ltsp/powerpc"; } else { # option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386.4.1"; option root-path "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1"; } # option root-path "/opt/ltsp/powerpc"; host netvista1{ hardware ethernet 00:60:94:2a:89:fe; fixed-address 192.168.0.19; filename "/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1/vmlinux-2.4.19-LTSP-IBMNC"; option root-path "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/i386.4.1"; } } From phanh at canby.k12.or.us Tue Nov 6 20:09:43 2007 From: phanh at canby.k12.or.us (Hung Phan) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:09:43 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] auto-login with K12LTSP 6 Message-ID: <896868BD-8C95-4FCB-8583-23C5C89019AD@canby.k12.or.us> Hello, folks We try to setup auto-login for oaks testing user on K12LTSP. Under System --> Administration --> Login Screen --> Security, we enable automatic login & timed login but no user shows to be selected. How can we setup K12LTSP thin-clients to auto-login with the same user account? Thank you, PS: found this http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/ A_more_complete_How- To_for_setting_up_autologin_of_clients_using_Gnome_&_GDM#Steps_for_K12LT SP_6_only. With mostly reusable equipments for this lab, replacing systems will happen frequent. How do we do auto-login without system MAC address and specific IP assign? Thank you for your advice, From craig at tobyhouse.com Tue Nov 6 20:24:04 2007 From: craig at tobyhouse.com (Craig White) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:24:04 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients In-Reply-To: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> References: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> Message-ID: <1194380644.3397.32.camel@cube.tobyhouse.com> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 11:36 -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > I'm not using K12LTSP, but rather Edubuntu at this time, but a number > of people have noted that the K12LTSP project has good support for > booting powerpc clients -- and that's where I'm having trouble. > > I've got an i386 server and both i386 and powerpc clients. I've > watched both boot using Wireshark. > > With the i386 I see the DHCP exchange and the boot file name returned > /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0. I then see the client do a request for that > file using TFTP. > > With the powerpc clients I see DHCP go through the same process, > except it returns Boot file name: /ltsp/powerpc/yaboot. But then I > never see the powerpc client do a TFTP request. > > Is there an extra parameter that must be passed from DHCPD back to the > client that says fetch the file? > > I'm using a recent G4 powerpc iBook and holding down "n" when booting. > I get the flashing network icon. > > I also tried the option+command+o+f to get to the Open Firmware > screen. There I entered: > > boot enet: 0 > > and watched the same DHCPD interaction with Wireshark but not TFPT > request from the client. > > The DHCPD server is returning the correct "Next Server" IP address, > and also "Server Identifier" with the same IP. > > Now Open Firmware did time out and respond: > > BOOTP/BSOP failed: no FILENAME specified can't open: enet:0 > > But Wireshark is showing the file name. > > One minor thing that didn't seem right is after a while the iBook > sent a DHCP Inform and the dhcpd server responded with DHCP ACK but > with a filename /ltsp/i386/nbi.img. > > > > I tried taking nice to the Mac, and swearing a bit, too, but it > didn't respond. > > > Here's my dhcpd.conf file: > > authoritative; > > subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250; > option domain-name "example.com"; > option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; > option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255; > option routers 192.168.0.1; > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > > option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; > if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" { > filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; > } else { > filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; > } > } > > group { > option root-path "/opt/ltsp/powerpc"; > filename "/ltsp/powerpc/yaboot"; > > # Define powerpc machines by their MAC address. > > host ibook { > hardware ethernet 00:14:51:32:BA:44; > fixed-address 192.168.0.15; > } > > host mac1 { > hardware ethernet 00:30:65:f3:50:58; > } > } ---- mac kernel (as far as I can tell) must be in root directory of tftp server. I have never gotten it to work anywhere else. also my global section of dhcpd.conf includes... option option-128 code 128 = string; option option-129 code 129 = text; option dhcp-parameter-request-list 1,3,6,15,17,43,44,46,60; then here's what a relevant section of my dhcpd looks like for mac client(s) group mac-clients { ddns-updates on; next-server 192.168.3.11; option root-path "192.168.3.11:/opt/ltsp/ppc"; filename "yaboot"; # install client host mac-linux-1 { option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; option vendor-encapsulated-options \ 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82: 05: # length 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; option option-129 "NIC=ne IO=0x300"; hardware ethernet 00:03:93:7f:5d:1a; fixed-address 192.168.3.47; option host-name "mac-linux-1"; ddns-hostname "mac-linux-1"; } } Craig From gentgeen at linuxmail.org Tue Nov 6 21:40:33 2007 From: gentgeen at linuxmail.org (Kevin Squire) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:40:33 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients In-Reply-To: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> References: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> Message-ID: <20071106164033.6a63f51e@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:36:51 -0800 Bill Moseley wrote: > I tried taking nice to the Mac, and swearing a bit, too, but it > didn't respond. And I thought it was just my machines that didn't respond to me. Maybe they are supporting the Writers Guild Strike in Hollywood :-) -- http://gentgeen.homelinux.org ############################################################# Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for 'tis better to be alone then in bad company. - George Washington, Rules of Civility From moseley at hank.org Tue Nov 6 22:34:49 2007 From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:34:49 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients In-Reply-To: <1194380644.3397.32.camel@cube.tobyhouse.com> References: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> <1194380644.3397.32.camel@cube.tobyhouse.com> Message-ID: <20071106223449.GB2008@hank.org> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:24:04PM -0700, Craig White wrote: What version of dhcpd are you running? > mac kernel (as far as I can tell) must be in root directory of tftp > server. I have never gotten it to work anywhere else. I'm not even at the point of the Mac client asking for the file yet, so it probably doesn't matter where it is. But, just in case the path name is confusing the Mac I tried just "yaboot". No luck. > also my global section of dhcpd.conf includes... > > option option-128 code 128 = string; > option option-129 code 129 = text; > option dhcp-parameter-request-list 1,3,6,15,17,43,44,46,60; I had tried these before from your previous posting (and I just tried again). Doesn't seem to make any difference. > group mac-clients { > ddns-updates on; > next-server 192.168.3.11; > option root-path "192.168.3.11:/opt/ltsp/ppc"; > filename "yaboot"; > # install client > host mac-linux-1 { > option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; > option vendor-encapsulated-options \ > 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82: > 05: # length > 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname > option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; > option option-129 "NIC=ne IO=0x300"; > > hardware ethernet 00:03:93:7f:5d:1a; > fixed-address 192.168.3.47; > option host-name "mac-linux-1"; > ddns-hostname "mac-linux-1"; > } > } I also tried all these options, and I can see them get sent with Wireshark, but still the Mac will not initiate the TFPT request. It just gets and IP from dhcpd and sits there. Do you have notes what those options are suppose to do? Are they suppose to fake what a OS X dhcpd server would send to trick the Mac into booting? Only think slightly odd in Wireshark is in the DHCPD reply I see "Server host not not given", but other wise Next Server is set. I see "root-path" set below, but even on the i386 boot I don't see it being used for anything. Do you know its function? This was my last attempt: authoritative; # Deal with broken mac clients. option option-128 code 128 = string; option option-129 code 129 = text; option dhcp-parameter-request-list 1,3,6,15,17,43,44,46,60; subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250; option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; # LAN config option domain-name "hank.org"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1; option routers 192.168.0.254; option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" { filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; } else { filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; } } group { option root-path "192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/powerpc"; # filename "/ltsp/powerpc/yaboot"; filename "yaboot"; host ibook { option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; option vendor-encapsulated-options 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82: 05: # length 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; option option-129 "NIC=ne IO=0x300"; hardware ethernet 00:14:51:32:BA:44; option host-name "ibooky"; fixed-address 192.168.0.222; } host mac1 { hardware ethernet 00:30:65:f3:50:58; } } -- Bill Moseley moseley at hank.org From cliebow at ellsworthschools.org Tue Nov 6 23:16:57 2007 From: cliebow at ellsworthschools.org (Chuck Liebow) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:16:57 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients In-Reply-To: <20071106223449.GB2008@hank.org> References: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> < > <1194380644.3397.32.camel@cube.tobyhouse.com> <20071106223449.GB2008@hank.org> Message-ID: why dont you meet me in #ltsp tomorrow (ooks like i will be there) if you want to hack this thru..chuck From craig at tobyhouse.com Tue Nov 6 23:18:14 2007 From: craig at tobyhouse.com (Craig White) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:18:14 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Network booting iMac clients In-Reply-To: <20071106223449.GB2008@hank.org> References: <20071106193650.GA6861@hank.org> <1194380644.3397.32.camel@cube.tobyhouse.com> <20071106223449.GB2008@hank.org> Message-ID: <1194391094.21562.31.camel@cube.tobyhouse.com> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:34 -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:24:04PM -0700, Craig White wrote: > > What version of dhcpd are you running? ---- I doubt it matters... # rpm -q dhcp dhcp-3.0.5-5.el5 ---- > > > > mac kernel (as far as I can tell) must be in root directory of tftp > > server. I have never gotten it to work anywhere else. > > I'm not even at the point of the Mac client asking for the file yet, > so it probably doesn't matter where it is. But, just in case the path > name is confusing the Mac I tried just "yaboot". No luck. ---- I think that is what I have set 'filename' option to be...only yaboot but that file and TFTP never worked for the Macs unless yaboot and associated files were located in tftp root - nowhere else (I could be wrong on this but that is what I found) ---- > > also my global section of dhcpd.conf includes... > > > > option option-128 code 128 = string; > > option option-129 code 129 = text; > > option dhcp-parameter-request-list 1,3,6,15,17,43,44,46,60; > > I had tried these before from your previous posting (and I just tried > again). Doesn't seem to make any difference. ---- never could get an iMac-G3 to work without them ---- > > group mac-clients { > > ddns-updates on; > > next-server 192.168.3.11; > > option root-path "192.168.3.11:/opt/ltsp/ppc"; > > filename "yaboot"; > > # install client > > host mac-linux-1 { > > option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; > > option vendor-encapsulated-options \ > > 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82: > > 05: # length > > 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname > > option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; > > option option-129 "NIC=ne IO=0x300"; > > > > hardware ethernet 00:03:93:7f:5d:1a; > > fixed-address 192.168.3.47; > > option host-name "mac-linux-1"; > > ddns-hostname "mac-linux-1"; > > } > > } > > I also tried all these options, and I can see them get sent with > Wireshark, but still the Mac will not initiate the TFPT request. It > just gets and IP from dhcpd and sits there. > > Do you have notes what those options are suppose to do? Are they > suppose to fake what a OS X dhcpd server would send to trick the Mac > into booting? ---- http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/CpuArchitectures#LTSP_on_Latter_Day_Macintosh_G3 ---- > > Only think slightly odd in Wireshark is in the DHCPD reply I see > "Server host not not given", but other wise Next Server is set. > > I see "root-path" set below, but even on the i386 boot I don't see it > being used for anything. Do you know its function? > > > > This was my last attempt: > > authoritative; > > # Deal with broken mac clients. > option option-128 code 128 = string; > option option-129 code 129 = text; > option dhcp-parameter-request-list 1,3,6,15,17,43,44,46,60; > > > subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250; > option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255; > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > > > # LAN config > option domain-name "hank.org"; > option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1; > option routers 192.168.0.254; > > option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; > if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" { > filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; > } else { > filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img"; > } > } > > group { > option root-path "192.168.0.254:/opt/ltsp/powerpc"; > # filename "/ltsp/powerpc/yaboot"; > filename "yaboot"; > > > > host ibook { > option vendor-class-identifier "AAPLBSDPC"; > option vendor-encapsulated-options 01:01:02:08:04:01:00:00:01:82: > 05: # length > 69:6d:61:63:34; # hostname > option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; > option option-129 "NIC=ne IO=0x300"; > > > > hardware ethernet 00:14:51:32:BA:44; > option host-name "ibooky"; > fixed-address 192.168.0.222; > } > > host mac1 { > hardware ethernet 00:30:65:f3:50:58; > } > } ---- where's 'next server' setting? boot the iBook with