[K12OSN] RE SME Server Authentication

Larry McPherson lmcpherson at mail.sumner.k12.me.us
Tue Nov 20 22:56:01 UTC 2007



Huck wrote:
> btw..Symbol Technologies(part of Motorola I think) have a wonderful 
> wireless system that works great, I went overkill with the radios 
> because I was thinking 'soho' not 'industrial' ;)  the 4 antennas I 
> plugged in captured the entire city-block of the school...great for 
> sporting events!  I had to 1/2 the output power on them!
> 
> This is through solid-pour concrete block as well.
> 
> just since you mentioned the lovelies who bring p-n-c waps from home ;)
> 
> --Huck
> 
> Terrell Prudé Jr. wrote:
>> That's like saying that you can take a secretary who "knows Windows" 
>> and have her set up a domain forest for your enterprise.  Probably not 
>> going to work out too well.
>>
>> You need to know what you're doing before you do it, regardless of 
>> which platform you're using.  If you don't, then bring in someone who 
>> does.  The "point 'n' click just like XP" mentality simply doesn't cut 
>> it on networks of any decent size.  This is the same mentality of the 
>> "helpful" people (read: teachers and principals) who bring their 
>> "point 'n' click" wireless access points in from home, with DHCP still 
>> turned on, and take down the whole school as a result.
>>
>> --TP
>> _______________________________
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>>
>>
>> Kemp, Levi wrote:
>>> Les,
>>>
>>>     It's not that I hate linux, I'm simply lazy. To be honest a lot
>>> of Network Admins are. I avoid using CLI if I can, sometimes I cannot so
>>> I learn it, use it, forget it, and move on.
>>>     You have to admit though, if you can create something easy to
>>> use and setup out of an OS that needs the push then why not. I'm with
>>> Huck on this one. It's the end product that matters the most to your
>>> users, how you get there doesn't matter to them. But if there is an
>>> easier way that lets you do more and get more done, and doesn't break
>>> the budget, well that's the way I'll go.
>>>     For example, I used K12LTSP at home because some genius made it
>>> so much simpler to get up and running then a plain Fedora 6 install.
>>> Sure I understand it now, but to a newbie in Linux I was thrilled to
>>> have things working so quickly.
>>>     That's just my opinion of course and I don't want to start
>>> anything by it but I think that I'd have and easier time of getting an
>>> admin to switch to Linux servers if they could configure them without
>>> ever using a Linux OS before.
>>>
>>> Levi Kemp
>>> Technology Specialist
>>> Bolivar R-1 Schools
>>> 417-328-8943
>>> lnkemp at bolivar.k12.mo.us
>>>
>>> "The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe, and
>>> buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm not even
>>> too sure about that one" 
>>>         --Dennis Hughes, FBI
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Les Mikesell
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:40 AM
>>> To: Support list for open source software in schools.
>>> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] RE SME Server Authentication
>>>
>>> Kemp, Levi wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Does Group office sync up with the ldap, and email already setup in
>>>>     
>>> SME?
>>>  
>>>> I'm looking at the demo and I'm really impressed. It almost looks like
>>>> you get everything a basic office worker needs right on a web page.
>>>>     
>>>
>>> I've always considered SME server to be 'Linux for people who don't like
>>>
>>> Linux', and the big thing missing is NFS for Linux clients.  I think 
>>> it may be possible to add that in now.
>>>
>>>   

You are correct.  I learned about the SME server about three years ago 
from David Trask.  I installed it in 4 schools as a firewall, and it 
worked great in every case, reducing continual virus problems at each 
school.  Installing SME firewalls reduced a major source of frustration, 
and rework.

I did use Matt's install script for a LDAP server at the High School but 
never felt as comfortable using it as I do the SME box.

Anyway... it is hard for me to take the training wheels off.

Larry


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