[K12OSN] Some issues using USB sticks

Meelis meelis at nlib.ee
Thu Nov 29 12:02:03 UTC 2007


Hi Dave and thanks for the reply.

As the user has not come back we have a problem to vertify this theory.
We do not have any Vista machines so cannot try by our self so only thing 
that is left is to wait and see if this situation occurs again. If it does 
I'll ask about Vista and we'll see if my problem is also connected to this 
:)

Meelis
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meelis at nlib.ee


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Hopkins" <dahopkins429 at gmail.com>
To: "Support list for open source software in schools." <k12osn at redhat.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Some issues using USB sticks


> Is the one that doesn't work being used with MS Vista OS? We had a
> student whose USB stick worked fine. Then, the family got a new
> computer and the USB stick stopped working. It was because Vista
> changed the partition information on the USB stick.  After
> reformatting the stick using XP, it worked again. This has now
> happened several times with different USB sticks and the only thing in
> common is the use of the sticks with Vista changes something on the
> stick.  Also, if you use shift-alt-f2 to get a shell at the thin
> client, is the hardware recognized?
>
> Sincerely,
> Dave Hopkins
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 2:08 PM, Meelis Mihhailov <meelis at nlib.ee> wrote:
>> Hi Huck!
>>
>> I had the same idea and we did reboot the client. Even if it had helped
>> earlier it didn't work this time. :(
>>
>> Meelis
>> ---
>> meelis at nlib.ee
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Huck" <dhuckaby at paasda.org>
>> To: "Support list for open source software in schools." 
>> <k12osn at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Some issues using USB sticks
>>
>>
>> > Meelis,
>> >
>> > I had this problem occur, and what I found to work(though not an 
>> > elegant
>> > fix)..was rebooting the client..it's a PITA I know...
>> > but something didn't "release" so that another USB stick could be
>> > recognized...
>> >
>> > --Huck
>> >
>> > Meelis Mihhailov wrote:
>> >> Hi Jimmy!
>> >>
>> >> I belive those names are not identical. One user is our library worker
>> >> and the other is customer. They just happened to have same Kingston
>> >> models. :) Our workers' USB stick worked well but customers' USB stick
>> >> did not. Now it's hard to get the name of the customers' kingston usb
>> >> stick as he/she is at home and I have no idea if this person visits us
>> >> this week.
>> >>
>> >> So the theory may be conflict between USB sticks by their names? It 
>> >> might
>> >> be so if thay are both used at the same time but while testing they 
>> >> were
>> >> used separatelly so at the server side one USB stick session had to be
>> >> ended before another one opened ... there could not be a name issue 
>> >> ...
>> >> or I'm wrong? I tested it by phone and ssh session with the server. I 
>> >> was
>> >> not at the room.
>> >>
>> >> Could this be a matter of USB port on the client or somekind of 
>> >> partition
>> >> table on the USB stick that is not understandable by LINUX?
>> >>
>> >> Meelis
>> >> ---
>> >> meelis at nlib.ee
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James P Schwankl"
>> >> <schwankl at chatham.k12.nc.us>
>> >> To: <k12osn at redhat.com>
>> >> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:32 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Some issues using USB sticks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Meelis,
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you know if the names of the USB sticks are also identical?  If 
>> >>> they
>> >>> are, what happens if one of them is renamed?  For example if one of 
>> >>> them
>> >>> is named Kensignton and the other is named Meelis-USB, will they then
>> >>> both show up?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Peace,
>> >>> Jimmy
>> >>>
>> >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>>
>> >>> You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or Allow?
>> >>>
>> >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: Meelis [mailto:meelis at nlib.ee]
>> >>> To:
>> >>> Support list for open source software in schools.
>> >>> [mailto:k12osn at redhat.com]
>> >>> Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:27:33 -0500
>> >>> Subject:
>> >>> [K12OSN] Some issues using USB sticks
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> I have a strange problem with USB sticks with my server and 
>> >>>> terminals.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> At the moment I have two users with USB sticks. One of them connects 
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> the terminal and server shows the user a folder that is users' USB
>> >>>> drive.
>> >>>> Now when a second user connects the USB nothing happens.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Both USB sticks are Kingston 128Mb.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do I really have to ask every user their usb device information in
>> >>>> order to
>> >>>> make the server understan each USB stick? (install drivers) or is 
>> >>>> there
>> >>>> another solution?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here is the log :
>> >>>>
>> >>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nov 26 16:12:35 5k_terminal5.ltsp root: udev detected remove of 
>> >>>> floppy
>> >>>> Nov 26 16:12:51 5k_terminal5.ltsp root: udev detected add of disk
>> >>>> Nov 26 16:13:00 5k_terminal5.ltsp root: udev detected remove of disk
>> >>>> Nov 26 16:13:00 5k_terminal5.ltsp root: udev detected remove of 
>> >>>> floppy
>> >>>>
>> >>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As we can see ... first detection is not shown in the log. It's as
>> >>>> nothing
>> >>>> is connected by the user so the server cannot understand if there is 
>> >>>> an
>> >>>> USB
>> >>>> stick present. However when this user removes the stick suddenly log
>> >>>> shows
>> >>>> that it detected the removal of this magical device.
>> >>>> When the second user connects on the same machine USB stick (not the
>> >>>> same!)
>> >>>> then everything works like a charm.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Is there any help or reading that can be done in order to ease this
>> >>>> problem?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have public access terminals (around 50) with random users and it 
>> >>>> may
>> >>>> get
>> >>>> ugly if number of unhappy users start to riot :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Meelis
>> >>>> --------
>> >>>> meelis at nlib.ee
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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