[K12OSN] FOSS music notation and editing software

"Terrell Prudé Jr." microman at cmosnetworks.com
Wed Sep 12 22:32:49 UTC 2007


Sonja,

As a systems engineer in a school system, I can only give you this
advice for this automaton masquerading as a teacher:

At some point, you've got to be willing to tell this imbecile "no,
sorry, it's not supported by our student systems."  If this teacher
wants this "Finale", then let *her* purchase the Windows or Mac
computers on which to run it...out of *her* *personal* wallet...if she
deems it so "essential" to education.  You'll see then just how
important that one piece of software becomes to her so-called
educational mission.

Maybe some of you think this is harsh, but sometimes you simply have to
do that.  You must say no, sometimes.

--TP
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Christian Einfeldt wrote:
> hi
>
> On 9/12/07, *Sonja Gonzalez* <sgonzalez at sau83.org
> <mailto:sgonzalez at sau83.org>> wrote:
>
>     Sorry, I was incomplete (I don't know much about this software.)
>     The free version is Finale Notepad, and that's what she wants.
>
>
> Just a few minutes ago, I gave our music teacher a free computer with
> Edubuntu Linux, running Rosegarden, NoteEdit, GNU Denomo, and GNU
> Solfege.  She is going to take the computer home and experiment with
> it.  She originally asked the school to spend money on a proprietary
> license that would have cost $80 for 14 seats, or nearly $1, 000.00. 
> Now she has decided that money would be better spent on instruments,
> and she is going to try to run those open source software music
> programs across our Edubuntu thin client network.
>
> Sonja, maybe you would be interested in contacting one of these
> organizations to find out about receiving free computers for your
> school.  There might even be a program like this near you in Fremont, NH.
>
> http://www.freegeek.org/
>
> http://www.accrc.org
>
> Good luck.
>
> -- 
> Christian Einfeldt,
> Producer, The Digital Tipping Point
> <http://archive.org/details/digitaltippingpoint>
>
>     _______________________________
>     Sonja Gonzalez
>     Director of Technology
>     Ellis School
>     432 Main Street
>     Fremont, NH 03044
>     603.895.2511 x603
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Tim Litwiller" <tim at litwiller.net <mailto:tim at litwiller.net>>
>     To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
>     <k12osn at redhat.com <mailto:k12osn at redhat.com>>
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:42:37 PM (GMT-0500)
>     America/New_York
>     Subject: Re: [K12OSN] FOSS music notation and editing software
>
>     Where do you find the student version free?  I just called our
>     supplier
>     and they say it is $350 per copy for the student version and $600 each
>     for the regular version.
>
>     Sonja Gonzalez wrote:
>     > The student version of Finale actually is free, and that's all
>     she needs. She doesn't need the features of the "paid for" version.
>     >
>     > _______________________________
>     > Sonja Gonzalez
>     > Director of Technology
>     > Ellis School
>     > 432 Main Street
>     > Fremont, NH 03044
>     > 603.895.2511 x603
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     > From: "Rob Owens" < rowens at bio-chemvalve.com
>     <mailto:rowens at bio-chemvalve.com>>
>     > To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
>     <k12osn at redhat.com <mailto:k12osn at redhat.com>>
>     > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:56:17 PM (GMT-0500)
>     America/New_York
>     > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] FOSS music notation and editing software
>     >
>     > My advice would be to calculate the cost of all the Finale
>     licenses, and
>     > then ask the music teacher if she would rather use free software
>     and
>     > spend the money on musical instruments or some other physical items.
>     >
>     > -Rob
>     >
>     > Sonja Gonzalez wrote:
>     >
>     >> This is a great thread... thanks for all of the ideas! However,
>     my music teacher *really* wants Finale. Has anyone tried using
>     wine to enable Finale on Linux?
>     >>
>     >> Thanks--
>     >>
>     >> _______________________________
>     >> Sonja Gonzalez
>     >> Director of Technology
>     >> Ellis School
>     >> 432 Main Street
>     >> Fremont, NH 03044
>     >> 603.895.2511 x603
>     >>
>     >> ----- Original Message -----
>     >> From: "Martin Woolley" <sysadmin at handsworth.bham.sch.uk
>     <mailto:sysadmin at handsworth.bham.sch.uk>>
>     >> To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
>     <k12osn at redhat.com <mailto:k12osn at redhat.com>>
>     >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:29:16 AM (GMT-0500)
>     America/New_York
>     >> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] FOSS music notation and editing software
>     >>
>     >> On Tuesday 11 September 2007 23:47, Christian Einfeldt wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> Our public middle school has just hired a music teacher for
>     the very first
>     >>> time.  The teacher would like to use computers to do music
>     notation and
>     >>> editing.  We are going to be running this software over an
>     LTSP thin client
>     >>> network.  She wants to "teach students to read treble and bass
>     clef music
>     >>> notation and to understand simple rhythmic patterns.  She
>     would like
>     >>> quizzes and tests and self correction.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >> We briefly deployed Rosegarden with excellent results. When the
>     new head of
>     >> music started, he insisted that Apple MACs and Garageband was
>     the only
>     >> solution; the ususal case of not daring to step outside
>     familiar territory.
>     >>
>     >> MuseScore has an excellent review in the latest issue of Linux
>     Format. It's
>     >> KDE based which would be an advantage at our school.
>
>
>
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