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Re: [K12OSN] Fedora 9 Live LTSP Server, Beta 1

Excellent work! Thanks for the notice. K12Linux is a good name.  :-)

I see from the site the inherent issues with ltsp5 and RHEL5+. 

How far off base would it be to compile the missing libs to /opt
location for ltsp5 use? Fuse would still be an issue due to needed
kernel mods. What about using a xen kernel in the interim? It would cost
a bit of performance but would be more RH'ish.

I am working on some additional tool chain stuff here (thinking large
scale deployments and issues with favorite items like teachertool being
used in an entirely new distributed environment and supporting local-app
control, etc) that I probably need to document better and get the design
ideas public earlier rather than later.

On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 02:22 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
> Hey folks,
> Below is a LiveUSB or LiveDVD image containing Fedora 9 LTSP server and
> the client chroot pre-installed and pre-configured.  This is the easiest
> way to get started with Fedora LTSP5, or to try it without installing
> onto your hard drive.
> Simply boot this Live image and follow the simple README, and you can
> within minutes demo serving of thin clients.  You can also install onto
> a hard drive to create a permanent server.  It is all surprisingly
> self-explanatory once you have booted to the Desktop.
> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/
> LTSP on Fedora 9 w/ Updates is currently considered to be production
> ready, and development of improved features continues rapidly.  Check
> out our homepage for the latest news and updated instructions.
> Download
> ========
> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/ltsp/beta1/i686/
> This image is based on Fedora 9 w/ Updates as of August 8th, 2008.  It
> seems to work great for me in limited tests.
> How to Use LiveUSB?
> ===================
> https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator
> * From Windows you can use LiveUSB creator to make a USB stick bootable
> containing this Live image.  From Linux, within the ISO is the
> livecd-iso-to-disk script which you can use in Linux to make a bootable
> USB stick.  It is highly recommended that you use a persistent overlay
> file of at least 900MB because this reduces the amount of memory needed
> for your demo.  For this reason you should have at least 2GB free on
> your USB stick (~920MB image + 900MB overlay).
> * LiveDVD works, but is not recommended unless you have at least 2GB RAM
> for your demo.
> * Be warned that serving clients from a Live image will eat up your
> overlay and RAM rapidly, causing the demo to eventually fail.  It should
> be fine for a number of client logins.  You should install to your hard
> drive if you want to do more than just a quick demo.
> ===
> 1) Why is this not called K12LTSP?
> It is the plan for Fedora LTSP5 technology to be the successor of Eric
> Harrison's highly successful K12LTSP distribution.  However we had
> planned on changing the name to "K12Linux" to be friendlier sounding and
> easier to pronounce when people explain it at educator conferences.
> Unfortunately the naming issue remains a bit uncertain because we have
> not yet received ownership of k12linux domains from the current owner.
> Warren's fault for getting busy and forgetting to follow up in past months.
> 2) Is this the only way to install a Fedora LTSP5 server?
> This Live LTSP Server image is only a convenient way for new users to
> get started with Fedora LTSP5.  Note that it is always possible to
> enable LTSP5 on any existing Fedora 9 server by following the
> instructions on the above homepage.
> 3) Why not LiveCD?
> LiveCD was not possible because we simply cannot fit Server, Client and
> apps onto a single disc.  If all you have is a CD drive then your
> hardware is unlikely powerful enough to serve as a LTSP server.  In any
> case you should be able to install from the LiveUSB without dealing with
> discs at all.
> Release Plan for Fedora 9 Live LTSP Server
> ==========================================
> If we do not run into any serious problems, I plan on doing a Release
> Candidate ISO spin on Thursday, August 21st.  If no problems are found
> with the RC image, then it will be redubbed as "final" without any changes.
> I hope to get Fedora branding onto the login screen, and the naming
> issue straightened out before this release.  Delays in the final release
> may occur due to this branding stuff.  In the mean time, this Beta 1
> spin seems to work well for me.  Please give it a try and let me know.
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list
> Please send questions or comments to the k12linus-devel-list.
> Warren Togami
> wtogami redhat com
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James P. Kinney III          
CEO & Director of Engineering 
Local Net Solutions,LLC                           

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