[K12OSN] Morley's Great K12LTSP labs - update

Sun Jan 27 04:21:19 UTC 2008

OK that settles the question of whether to go 5.0 EL or not -- if I have 
to struggle another nanosecond with getting flash to work with 64-bit I 
don't want anything to do with it. I'd rather run the risk of being hacked 
and cracked, and that's the truth. Although I side with the philosophical 
arguments, my teachers demand flash with sound as their #1 priority, way 
above Office compatibility for example.

WRT disadvantages of Edubuntu -- the disadvantages for me anyhow were 
numerous. Getting flash to work with 64-bit operating system proved a 
futile exercise, and I ran into all kinds of little glitches along the 
way. I won't go into details. That said it's got great curb appeal, and I 
hope that their spring 2008 version has more promise because it could be 
worth another look.

Regards,
Tom Wolfe

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Peter Scheie wrote:

> Terrel-
> What vesion of Flash are you running on 5.0EL?  I haven't wrestled with it 
> for a while, but as I recall, Flash 9 was installed, but I could not get 
> sound to work with it, even using the Pulse Audio trick from Revolution 
> Linux.
>
> Agreed, proprietary formats are bad.  How many people recall email 20 years 
> ago, where business cards had three or four email addresses on them, for 
> Sprint, CompuServe, et al, because none of the systems talked to each other? 
> Nowadays no one would even consider a closed email system.  Audio and video 
> need to be likewise.
>
> Peter
>
> Terrell Prudé Jr. wrote:
>> That Flash issue also appears to depend on whether you're running 32-bit 
>> Firefox or 64-bit Firefox.  I run 32-bit K12LTSP 4.2EL and 5.0EL, and so 
>> far, so good.
>> 
>> And *that*, folks, is why we need to avoid proprietary file formats.  Right 
>> there.
>> 
>> --TP
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>> 
>> Peter Scheie wrote:
>>> Mostly it's plug & fly--excepting the Flash sound issues I've written 
>>> about and have not been able to conquer.  I've got it installed in a 
>>> couple of sites where sound is not an issue, and it's working like a champ 
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> Doug Simpson wrote:
>>>> GREAT! doe it work just like the FC versions? Plug and fly?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Doug
>>>> 
>>>> Doug Simpson
>>>> Technology Specialist
>>>> De Queen Public Schools
>>>> De Queen, AR
>>>> simpsond at leopards.k12.ar.us
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nils Breunese <nils at breun.nl> 1/25/2008 9:27 AM >>>
>>>> Doug Simpson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The only thing I hate about the K12LTSP project(s) is the speed in 
>>>>> which
>>>>> they are obsoleted. Just about that time I get around to upgrading,  the
>>>>> version I am comfortable with is already in obsolescence and no longer
>>>>> supported. I was just getting ready to roll out FC6 K12LTSP and now I
>>>>> hear it is obsoleted already.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It really makes me not want to mess with it anymore and I am a BIG FAN
>>>>> of the K12LTSP project(s).
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of my reasons for going to it in the first place was the fact that
>>>>> you plug it in and it works. But, it seems with every new version, 
>>>>> there
>>>>> are new kinks that you gotta work out or wait until the ones who know
>>>>> how to fix them get them fixed, but by then, it is obsoloeted already
>>>>> and it is no longer available. The upgrades aren't upgrades. They are
>>>>> completely new installs with completely new sets of bugs and kinks.  And
>>>>> I am just a small-time user. . . My server at home that my family uses
>>>>> is FC3. Still rock-solid and just works. I was going to FC6 as soon as
>>>>> possible, but . . . I have several servers at work, also, and one is
>>>>> running FC6 but I havent' touched it in a year. . .
>>>>> 
>>>>> Disheartened,
>>>> 
>>>> No need to be disheartened. Go with the EL flavor of K12LTSP!
>>>> 
>>>> The regular K12LTSP releases are based on Fedora Core and yes, Fedora 
>>>> Core has a very short life cycle. But there are also EL (Enterprise 
>>>> Linux) versions of K12LTSP, which are based on CentOS (which in turn  is 
>>>> a Red Hat Enterprise Linux clone). The current version is K12LTSP  5EL, 
>>>> which is based on CentOS 5. CentOS has a supported lifetime of 7  years 
>>>> (compared to Fedora's ~1 year).
>>>> 
>>>> Get it here: http://k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/DownLoad
>>>> Nils Breunese.
>>>> 
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