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RE: [K12OSN] State of K12LTSP usefullness in your school



I'm a computer teacher at my school.  This is the first year that I have used K12LTSP.  Last year, the reaction in my school was a little surprising to me.  I thought free was the best F-word a school would want to hear, but it wasn't.
 
I run both Linux and Windows in my lab.
 
The technician gently mentioned that they have tried thin clients before in the Business lab and they took it down.  It was a Windows set up.  I didn't really think she was discouraging me.  When I bought the server and was ready to go, she informed me that she was not going to support my lab, if I changed the setup on the clients.  Even if a monitor breaks.  I ended up doing a floppy boot and had to figure out how to connect to the IPX network on my own.  She still supports my lab and is pretty impressed by Linux.  If the board would train the technicians she told me that she would love to be trained.  (She said that when I first started.)
 
The school board also had its reservations.  I was asked to reconsider my idea.  The board doesn't like to have subnetworks set up all over the place.  They weren't evil about it.  They weren't super helpful either.  Maybe because they didn't really have the background to help me or they didn't think it was a very good idea.  However, they let me do it and they answered my questions the best they could.  I appreciated the help that they gave me.
 
The business ed. teacher was a little discouraged, but eventually she liked the idea because it meant more money could go into her lab.  That's another issue, that I seem to have problems with.  Where the money goes.  I've been working hard on my own to get the lab set up, and I'm worried that because of the low costs for my lab, it will be harder to ask for money when I really need it.  I've seen it happen with another collegue at a different school.
 
My prinicpal was actually pretty supportive.  I was lucky that she had some technical background.  She was a principal at a school that was the first one in our district to set up a thin client.  So she was familiar with the idea.
 
When September came around, I was a little worried that the students would complain about the change.  I was pleasantly surprised that they didn't.  Quite a few of them really liked it.  They did complain if something was lagging or they couldn't connect to the Internet.  They do that in Windows too.
 
Personally on the most part I really like it.  I love fl_teachertool and use it a lot in my class.  The students like it too, especially the ones in the back who have trouble seeing the board.  I have noticed some glitches that I can't seem to figure out, like why the gnome-power-manager keeps needing to restart.  If I had some proper Linux training I could figure it out, but for now it will remain a "Restart button" pushing experience.  It is a lot to learn.  If I didn't have a couple of (awesome) friends in the city to give me Linux support and you guys I would have stopped using it a while ago. 
 
I agree with the older gentleman.  It seems that the general credibility placed on software in North America is directly proportional to the cost, rather than its value.  I believe that in schools, some of it might be a concern for support.  They want reliable, effective and quick support.  That costs money.
 
Wow, this ended up being a long reply.  Thanks for reading it.  I hope that answered your inquiry.
 

> From: brcisna eazylivin net
> To: k12osn redhat com
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:59:19 -0500
> Subject: [K12OSN] State of K12LTSP usefullness in your school
>
> Hello List,
>
> I pose this question about once a year to all the K12LTSP'ers on the
> list here. I'd like to know,especially the newer people on the list
> here,how your admins think, when you mention,about the K12ltsp setup in
> a school setting. I have posted all my trials and tribulations many
> times before. I always wonder what the admins think when you mention the
> distro is free. This seems to be the biggest downfall I have found.Seems
> odd doesn't it?,,,hhmm.I was told many moons ago by an older gentleman
> that is a long time Linux guru that the United States would be the last
> country to "flip" to Linux ,because the US is such a commercialized
> country. I can see now he is correct:)
> For example what does the teachers say when you have mentioned to them
> about k12ltsp for the first time,etc.
> Any comments to share?
>
> Take Care,
>
> Barry Cisna
>
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