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Re: [K12OSN] Fedora 9 LTSP install guide, walkthrough, manual...



Hi

haven't used fc9 as yet, but have been working on a ltsp installation guide on fc8, fc7, from bare system to ltsp server complete with sound and local storage working, authentication to ads and auto-mounting of domain shares

Documentation is rough as guts, but would send if you liked.

Please note that this applies only to ltsp 4.2, haven't played with ltsp 5 (am kinda hoping it will be integrated into fc9 out of the box later this year)

Background of the documentation is installation within a school environment of ltsp server and utilisation of clients in comp. rooms for middle school classes. (Northern Territory Australia)We have found a few issues with scratch installation, and have been forced to use kde because of random errors with gnome on log-on. Can send details if people like, and of server, but suffice to say that we can run 45 concurrent users on our little set-up with no issues until multi-media files are opened, then we simply run out of memory. Not a fault of ltsp, a fault of overextending the system.


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Today's Topics:

   1. OT: Big Brother (Peter Hartmann)
   2. Re: OT: Big Brother (Huck)
   3. Re: OT: Big Brother (Rob Owens)
   4. Re: K12LTSP - make install - Linux kernel source not (Leo Willems)
   5. K12LTSP 5.0EL: Etherboot - fatal server error no screens
      found (Leo Willems)
   6. Fedora 9 LTSP install guide, walkthrough, manual...
      (Dagfinn Stangeland)
   7. Re: Fedora 9 LTSP install guide, walkthrough, manual...
      (Nils Breunese)
   8. Re: Fedora 9 LTSP install guide, walkthrough, manual...
      (Nils Breunese)
   9. OT: Big Brother (Barry R Cisna)
  10. K12LTSP 5.0EL: Etherboot - fatal server error no screens
      found (Barry R Cisna)
  11. K12LTSP 5.0EL: How to install 147 update packages (solution)
      (Leo Willems)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:04:12 -0400
From: "Peter Hartmann" <ascensiontech gmail com>
Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Big Brother
To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
        <k12osn redhat com>
Message-ID:
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Is anybody doing filtering that logs blocked pages with user  info?
I'm finding some schools have an interest in this but I don't know
what "just works".    Personally I would think that an identd type of
setup that passes UID to a filter would be more acceptable than a user
login at browser launch.  Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Peter



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:21:11 -0700
From: Huck <dhuckaby paasda org>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] OT: Big Brother
To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
        <k12osn redhat com>
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dansguardian with 'ident' running?

Peter Hartmann wrote:
> Is anybody doing filtering that logs blocked pages with user  info?
> I'm finding some schools have an interest in this but I don't know
> what "just works".    Personally I would think that an identd type of
> setup that passes UID to a filter would be more acceptable than a user
> login at browser launch.  Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:16:20 -0400
From: Rob Owens <rowens ptd net>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] OT: Big Brother
To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
        <k12osn redhat com>
Message-ID: <20080515231620 GA26792 junker owens net>
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If I recall, Censornet can do this.

-Rob

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:04:12PM -0400, Peter Hartmann wrote:
> Is anybody doing filtering that logs blocked pages with user  info?
> I'm finding some schools have an interest in this but I don't know
> what "just works".    Personally I would think that an identd type of
> setup that passes UID to a filter would be more acceptable than a user
> login at browser launch.  Any recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:26:48 +0800
From: "Leo Willems" <willems leo googlemail com>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] K12LTSP - make install - Linux kernel source not
To: k12osn redhat com
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Dear Terrell,

thanks for the advice! I installed K12LTSP 5.0EL. Some how the kernel
source is installed by default, because I haven't seen any distinctive
selection during the setup. Compiling the drivers for a Attansic L2
works fine.

I added a 2nd network card to the server, a 3com 3C905B-TX. K12LTSP
5.0EL didn't recognize this card by default. I downloaded and compile
the driver. still not recognized. About to change the network card, I
first changed the PCI slot on the board. And the network card is
recognized.

Does a driver for the 3com 3C905B-TX come in the K12LTSP 5.0EL
distribution or is the downloaded / compiled driver working now?

Both NICs are working fine. One for the Internet access, one for the
thin client net. Everything automatic setup by default. Nice!

Thanks!
Leo


Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:12:19 -0400
From: "Terrell Prud? Jr." <microman cmosnetworks com>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] K12LTSP - make install - Linux kernel source not
       found
To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
       <k12osn redhat com>
Message-ID: <4808E483 4000607 cmosnetworks com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello Leo,

The K12LTSP is indeed a great system for computer labs.  It also works
very well in a business situation.  You made a good choice.

One thing before we get started:  you should plan ASAP to "upgrade" to
K12LTSP 5.0EL, as Fedora Core 6 (the basis of K12LTSP 6.0.0) hasn't
received security updates since December 2007.  You are thus vulnerable
to getting hacked.  CentOS 5, the basis of K12LTSP 5.0EL, on the other
hand, will be supported to the year 2014.  Turns out that CentOS 5 looks
and acts virtually identical to Fedora Core 6, so your users won't
experience user-interface disruption.

There are two ways to install what you're after.  There's the command
line way, and there's the GUI way.  To install the kernel source on my
system (K12LTSP 4.2EL) from the command line, I did this, as root:

 yum install kernel-devel

which should also install the header files.  The GUI way is to fire up
the "Add/Remove Programs" application and install the "kernel-devel"
package.

--TP
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Leo Willems wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>  thank you all for the K12LTSP distribution and keeping up the
>  community with this mailing list.
>
>  I use the K12LTSP(6.0.0) in server / thin-client setups for computer
>  labs in children homes in South East Asia.
>  I really appreciate the automatic detection of most of the hardware
>  devices (video, audio, network) during the several installations.
>  ...
>
>  Currently I like to compile drivers for a Attansic L2 Fast Ethernet
>  (onboard), the network card was not detected during the installation.
>
>  I did this:
>
>   tar zxf L2-linux-driver.tar.gz
>   cd L2-linux-driver/rc/
>   make install
>
>  Error message: Linux kernel source not found. Stop.
>
>  Questions:
>  1. How to make sure the Linux kernel source are available?
>  2. How to add the Linux kernel source on a running K12LSTP server?
>
>  Thank you!
>  Leo
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:35:44 +0800
From: "Leo Willems" <willems leo googlemail com>
Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 5.0EL: Etherboot - fatal server error no
        screens found
To: k12osn redhat com
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        <3fabbdc20805151835w4450c399n9f88db2ee35b6c0c mail gmail com>
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Dear all,

with a K12LTSP 5.0EL server and a thin client with Etherboot the NIC
is recognized and the thin client basically boots from the server.

The boot sequence stops with: Fatal server error - no screens found.

On the server the video card is on board a Intel 82945G/GZ and in the
thin client a Nvidia Riva TNT2 Mode 64 Pro.

1. Does this error indicate a problem with the video card driver for
the thin client?
2. Is the error independent from the video card and a general setting problem?

Thanks
Leo



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:54:12 +0200
From: "Dagfinn Stangeland" <jodgipost gmail com>
Subject: [K12OSN] Fedora 9 LTSP install guide, walkthrough, manual...
To: "K12OS mailing list" <k12osn redhat com>,   "RedHat K12LTSP list"
        <k12linux-devel-list redhat com>
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        <645415b20805160454v4ffbc949w31de63b79eb8ebc6 mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I'm struggling with setting up a Fedora LTSP server.
Does anyone know of a final F9 resource for installation and setup of LTSP?
What i find floating around seems to written a while ago and seems to be
meant for beta and testing versions of Fedora and LTSP.


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:03:52 +0200
From: Nils Breunese <nils breun nl>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Fedora 9 LTSP install guide, walkthrough,
        manual...
To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
        <k12osn redhat com>
Message-ID: <CE02B93F-4D41-40BF-98D0-2AA4E842E7AE breun nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Dagfinn Stangeland wrote:

> I'm struggling with setting up a Fedora LTSP server.
> Does anyone know of a final F9 resource for installation and setup
> of LTSP?
> What i find floating around seems to written a while ago and seems
> to be meant for beta and testing versions of Fedora and LTSP.

You might want to try https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ for LTSP
installation instructions on Fedora. If you're looking for a ready to
go K12LTSP setup I suggest taking a look at the CentOS 5 based K12LTSP
5EL: http://k12ltsp.org/

Nils Breunese.



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:05:31 +0200
From: Nils Breunese <nils breun nl>
Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Fedora 9 LTSP install guide, walkthrough,
        manual...
To: "Support list for open source software in schools."
        <k12osn redhat com>
Message-ID: <83321F87-C914-4C1A-8CF8-CC92A6E8DE3A breun nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Nils Breunese wrote:

> Dagfinn Stangeland wrote:
>
>> I'm struggling with setting up a Fedora LTSP server.
>> Does anyone know of a final F9 resource for installation and setup
>> of LTSP?
>> What i find floating around seems to written a while ago and seems
>> to be meant for beta and testing versions of Fedora and LTSP.
>
> You might want to try https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ for LTSP
> installation instructions on Fedora. If you're looking for a ready
> to go K12LTSP setup I suggest taking a look at the CentOS 5 based
> K12LTSP 5EL: http://k12ltsp.org/

For info on LTSP on Fedora you also might want to follow Warren
Togami's LiveJournal: http://wtogami.livejournal.com/

Nils Breunese.



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:08:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: Barry R Cisna <brcisna eazylivin net>
Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Big Brother
To: k12osn redhat com
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        <40009 216 24 126 66 1210946937 squirrel www eazylivin net>
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Peter,

This is very easy to do do with what is on your K12LTSP Cd's. Simply
install Squid, dansguardian. You will also need to download identd( for
Winders clients)and install this manually on each of the Winders clients
on your lan( some leg work involved),and oident rpm from fedora/EL extras
to install onto your K12lTSP server for thin clients reporting. After you
get this done you'll have a very nice web filtering system that will
report 'userxyz' if the content filter receives a denied page in an easy
to read dansguardian report. I have tried squidguard as well along with
squid but dansguardian seems to have a few enhancements over squidguard.

Take Care,

Barry Cisna



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:30:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Barry R Cisna <brcisna eazylivin net>
Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 5.0EL: Etherboot - fatal server error no
        screens found
To: k12osn redhat com
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        <46855 216 24 126 66 1210948211 squirrel www eazylivin net>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Hi Leo,

If this client you are trying has onboard video,to make your life easier
disable it in bios (or pull out the existing) and find an old machine
laying around with a pci video card,and slap the video card in the client
you are trying out. Almost any pci video card will work "out of the
box"with K12LTSP. You really don't need all the high video cards in a thin
client scenario anyways.

Take Care,

Barry Cisna




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 00:36:27 +0900
From: "Leo Willems" <willems leo googlemail com>
Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP 5.0EL: How to install 147 update packages
        (solution)
To: k12osn redhat com
Message-ID:
        <3fabbdc20805160836g1a154974nc4d68abbaf216dea mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Dear all,

after a recent fresh installation of K12LTSP 5.0EL the system had 147
update packages to install.
First I try to let them all update at once. But even overnight the
updater hangs.

Then I chosse on a random base some packages to install.
The updater run into a

Update install error
[('file /usr/sbin/sysreport conflicts between attempted installs of
sos-1.7-9.2.el5 and sysreport-1.4.3-13.el5', (6,
'/usr/sbin/sysreport', 0L)), ('file /usr/share/sysreport/functions
conflicts between attempted installs of sos-1.7-9.2.el5 and
sysreport-1.4.3-13.el5', (6, '/usr/share/sysreport/functions', 0L))]

Solution: 'divide and conquer'
1. I selected the packages in smaller ranges, selected by the first
letter of the package, e.g. all packages from 'a to b'.
2. All packages could be installed error free till 'q'.
3. The error occurs inthe range 'r to s'
4. I selected the rest in steps 't to y', ... 'sa to st' ... 'systemtap'
5. Finally all 147 packages could be installed with out error.

Thanks
Leo



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