From microman at cmosnetworks.com Tue Dec 1 05:33:51 2009 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:33:51 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Recommended RAM for F12/LTSP5 In-Reply-To: <1259615355.5640.8.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> References: <1259615355.5640.8.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> Message-ID: <4B14AABF.4010604@cmosnetworks.com> Henry Burroughs wrote: > I have gotten the impression that 128MB of ram is probably below > minimum RAM wise for running LTSP5 (I watched top as a local app). If you're talking about a client, then 128MB is about the minimum. I'd suggest 256MB minimum, though, since DRAM is cheap. > > What do people recommend as a good min of ram and then what would be a > good working level to have (I'm thinking 512MB -> 1 GB). I would like > the capability to do local apps (in particular crossover office with > office 2003). More never hurts. I'd suggest 512MB DRAM as a minimum if you want to do local apps. Gotta ask one question, though, before you go to all the CrossOver Office effort. Any particular reason that OpenOffice.org wouldn't service your MS Office 2003 needs? --TP From robark at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 17:59:42 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:59:42 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Beta Fl_TeacherTool 0.71 for K12Linux (LTSP5) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Robert Arkiletian wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Robert Arkiletian >> wrote: >>> Okay it's done. At least I hope it's done. >>> >>> I have developed this on F9, ?it may need a tiny tweak for F11. I have >>> not done extensive testing so there may be some bugs. I know screen >>> blanking (lock) does not work but that is a general LTSP issue. >>> >>> The install procedure is long. I think this may be a barrier to entry >>> for some. If someone is interested to create a script for the install >>> (or an rpm) I think that would be much appreciated by many. >>> >>> BTW this new version does *not* have the security vulnerability that >>> the old version for ltsp 4.x did :) >>> >>> Download >>> http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html >> >> Good news. >> Here is an i386 RPM for F9 or F10 prepared by Barry Cisna. Incredibly, >> it also takes care of the entire installation process except for >> adding persons who will run Fl_TeacherTool to the teachers group. I >> have *not* tested this RPM so please report any problems to this list. >> >> ?http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html > > Anyone interested in helping get this package reviewed and included in > fedora proper? ?I'm offerring to help with reviewing, and potentially > comaintaining it. > Hi Rex, Since I am the developer one would expect me to be the obvious choice for this position. However, I am no longer using LTSP. I have switched to DRBL. I will be porting my software to that platform soon (as I need it for myself). However, I am committed to maintaining Fl_TeacherTool for LTSP in terms of bug fixes and ensuring it works in the future but I probably won't be adding any new features. Except maybe one: shutdown class (LTSP5 makes this now possible) As I understand it, being a maintainer involves testing it out in every new release of Fedora. What I propose is that I continue to maintain the code but that another person who is using ltsp be the package maintainer. I would of course work in co-operation with this person to ensure things work smoothly. On a side note: now that x11vnc is in the Fedora repo, this only leaves one package which Fl_TeacherTool needs that is not in the repos. It's vncsnapshot. http://vncsnapshot.sourceforge.net/ -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From robark at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 20:04:22 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:04:22 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Beta Fl_TeacherTool 0.71 for K12Linux (LTSP5) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Robert Arkiletian >>> wrote: >>>> Okay it's done. At least I hope it's done. >>>> >>>> I have developed this on F9, ?it may need a tiny tweak for F11. I have >>>> not done extensive testing so there may be some bugs. I know screen >>>> blanking (lock) does not work but that is a general LTSP issue. >>>> >>>> The install procedure is long. I think this may be a barrier to entry >>>> for some. If someone is interested to create a script for the install >>>> (or an rpm) I think that would be much appreciated by many. >>>> >>>> BTW this new version does *not* have the security vulnerability that >>>> the old version for ltsp 4.x did :) >>>> >>>> Download >>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html >>> >>> Good news. >>> Here is an i386 RPM for F9 or F10 prepared by Barry Cisna. Incredibly, >>> it also takes care of the entire installation process except for >>> adding persons who will run Fl_TeacherTool to the teachers group. I >>> have *not* tested this RPM so please report any problems to this list. >>> >>> ?http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html >> >> Anyone interested in helping get this package reviewed and included in >> fedora proper? ?I'm offerring to help with reviewing, and potentially >> comaintaining it. >> > > Hi Rex, > > Since I am the developer one would expect me to be the obvious choice > for this position. However, I am no longer using LTSP. I have switched > to DRBL. I will be porting my software to that platform soon (as I > need it for myself). However, I am committed to maintaining > Fl_TeacherTool for LTSP in terms of ?bug fixes and ensuring it works > in the future but I probably won't be adding any new features. Except > maybe one: shutdown class (LTSP5 makes this now possible) ?As I > understand it, being a maintainer involves testing it out in every new > release of Fedora. What I propose is that I continue to maintain the > code but that another person who is using ltsp be the package > maintainer. I would of course work in co-operation with this person to > ensure things work smoothly. > > On a side note: now that x11vnc is in the Fedora repo, this only > leaves one package which Fl_TeacherTool needs that is not in the > repos. It's vncsnapshot. > http://vncsnapshot.sourceforge.net/ Actually there is tightvnc also. But I only need two files from that package. From my install docs: cp vncviewer binary to /usr/bin but rename it to teachertool-vncviewer cp vncpasswd binary to /usr/bin but rename it to teachertool-vncpasswd -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From hburroughs at hhprep.org Tue Dec 1 20:09:13 2009 From: hburroughs at hhprep.org (Henry Burroughs) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:09:13 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Fresh install of F12 w/ updates and problem running ltsp-build-client Message-ID: <1259698153.5640.150.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> I've just done a fresh F12 install and updated. I try to run ltsp-build-client now and it barfs right at the end with this (I have setenforce 0 set before running): sh: /usr/sbin/setenforce: No such file or directory ldd: /sbin/multipath: No such file or directory ls: cannot access /lib/libmultipath*: No such file or directory ls: cannot access /lib/multipath/*: No such file or directory umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/errors.py:40: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 return str(self.message) Error creating image : Unable to unmount filesystem at /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root// umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 140, in sys.exit(main()) File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 135, in main creator.cleanup() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py", line 578, in cleanup self.unmount() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py", line 556, in unmount self._unmount_instroot() File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 82, in _unmount_instroot self.__bindroot.unmount() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/fs.py", line 113, in unmount raise MountError("Unable to unmount filesystem at %s" % self.dest) imgcreate.errors.MountError: Unable to unmount filesystem at /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root// umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) Exception imgcreate.errors.MountError: MountError('Unable to unmount filesystem at /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root//',) in > ignored error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally It seems to be having a problem unmounting the image directory created under /var/tmp I have run it several times and keep coming up with the same issue. Henry Burroughs Technology Director Hilton Head Preparatory School www.hhprep.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bear2bar at netscape.net Tue Dec 1 21:10:28 2009 From: bear2bar at netscape.net (norbert) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:10:28 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Fresh install of F12 w/ updates and problem running ltsp-build-client In-Reply-To: <1259698153.5640.150.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> References: <1259698153.5640.150.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> Message-ID: <4B158644.5090107@netscape.net> Hi Henry, This seems a common problem, on my side too. What I did to resolve the issue is as follows; 1) Have "smart" installed on your computer 2) Do not login via the GUI but rather CTL-ALT-F1 & login as *root* 3) run smart update then smart upgrade 4) Reboot - this is starting to sound like M$ Win - blah!!!! 5) Login as in step 2 & run yum -y upgrade and your troubles should go away :-D good luck Norbert On 12/01/2009 03:09 PM, Henry Burroughs wrote: > I've just done a fresh F12 install and updated. I try to run > ltsp-build-client now and it barfs right at the end with this (I have > setenforce 0 set before running): > > sh: /usr/sbin/setenforce: No such file or directory > ldd: /sbin/multipath: No such file or directory > ls: cannot access /lib/libmultipath*: No such file or directory > ls: cannot access /lib/multipath/*: No such file or directory > umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. > (In some cases useful info about processes that use > the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/errors.py:40: > DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of > Python 2.6 > return str(self.message) > Error creating image : Unable to unmount filesystem at > /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root// > umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. > (In some cases useful info about processes that use > the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 140, in > sys.exit(main()) > File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 135, in main > creator.cleanup() > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py", line > 578, in cleanup > self.unmount() > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py", line > 556, in unmount > self._unmount_instroot() > File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 82, in _unmount_instroot > self.__bindroot.unmount() > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/fs.py", line 113, > in unmount > raise MountError("Unable to unmount filesystem at %s" % self.dest) > imgcreate.errors.MountError: Unable to unmount filesystem at > /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root// > umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. > (In some cases useful info about processes that use > the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) > Exception imgcreate.errors.MountError: MountError('Unable to unmount > filesystem at /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root//',) in method ChrootCreator.__del__ of <__main__.ChrootCreator object at > 0xa4aeecc>> ignored > error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally > > It seems to be having a problem unmounting the image directory created > under /var/tmp > I have run it several times and keep coming up with the same issue. > > > > Henry Burroughs > Technology Director > Hilton Head Preparatory School > www.hhprep.org > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(In some cases useful info about processes that use > ???????? the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/errors.py:40: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 > ? return str(self.message) > Error creating image : Unable to unmount filesystem at /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root// > umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. > ??????? (In some cases useful info about processes that use > ???????? the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) > Traceback (most recent call last): > ? File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 140, in > ??? sys.exit(main()) > ? File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 135, in main > ??? creator.cleanup() > ? File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py", line 578, in cleanup > ??? self.unmount() > ? File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py", line 556, in unmount > ??? self._unmount_instroot() > ? File "/usr/sbin/chroot-creator", line 82, in _unmount_instroot > ??? self.__bindroot.unmount() > ? File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/imgcreate/fs.py", line 113, in unmount > ??? raise MountError("Unable to unmount filesystem at %s" % self.dest) > imgcreate.errors.MountError: Unable to unmount filesystem at /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root// > umount: /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root: device is busy. > ??????? (In some cases useful info about processes that use > ???????? the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) > Exception imgcreate.errors.MountError: MountError('Unable to unmount filesystem at /var/tmp/imgcreate-9g8Qme/install_root//',) in > ignored > error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally > > It seems to be having a problem unmounting the image directory created under /var/tmp > I have run it several times and keep coming up with the same issue. Are you running ltsp-build-client as root? If you do "mount" as root, are there any old /var/tmp/imgcreate* mounts still present? -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From HBurroughs at hhprep.org Wed Dec 2 15:33:19 2009 From: HBurroughs at hhprep.org (Burroughs, Henry) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:33:19 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Recommended RAM for F12/LTSP5 In-Reply-To: <20091201170033.7D3A78E13FC@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20091201170033.7D3A78E13FC@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1259767999.5640.165.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> > Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:33:51 -0500 > From: "Terrell Prude' Jr." > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Recommended RAM for F12/LTSP5 > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > Message-ID: <4B14AABF.4010604 at cmosnetworks.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Henry Burroughs wrote: > > I have gotten the impression that 128MB of ram is probably below > > minimum RAM wise for running LTSP5 (I watched top as a local app). > > If you're talking about a client, then 128MB is about the minimum. I'd > suggest 256MB minimum, though, since DRAM is cheap. > > > > > What do people recommend as a good min of ram and then what would be a > > good working level to have (I'm thinking 512MB -> 1 GB). I would like > > the capability to do local apps (in particular crossover office with > > office 2003). > > More never hurts. I'd suggest 512MB DRAM as a minimum if you want to do > local apps. Gotta ask one question, though, before you go to all the > CrossOver Office effort. Any particular reason that OpenOffice.org > wouldn't service your MS Office 2003 needs? > > --TP > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > End of K12OSN Digest, Vol 70, Issue > ************************************* Terrell, We are unfortunately a MS shop (with campus agreement), so I need to provide a unified office look across all platforms (Win, Mac, and Linux). It would be nice to switch to OO down the road, and it is getting closer since I was able to use AD Group Policy software deployment to push out OO 3.1 recently. Between Group Policy software deployment and WPKG, my windows boxes basically fully configure themselves on a fresh install. Aaah... automation. Thanks for the memory feedback... now if I can only get my F12 chroot to build..... arrrgh....... Henry Burroughs Technology Director Hilton Head Preparatory School www.hhprep.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hburroughs at hhprep.org Wed Dec 2 15:50:53 2009 From: hburroughs at hhprep.org (Henry Burroughs) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:50:53 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] using GVFS to "mount" local paths Message-ID: <1259769053.22126.10.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> Way back in 2005 I had documented on how to use gnome-fs and gconf to make icons for local directories (ie: /universal) show up as "Universal" under Computer in Nautilus. Found out this morning GVFS has taken the place of gnome-fs and that doesn't work anymore. I've been playing around with the gvfs-mount command and I haven't had any luck getting a local path remounted to show up. These are the same shares that show up for windows users (via Samba) and I also share to certain servers via NFS. I'm also trying to hash out how to make those available securely to thin-client stations when running local apps. That leaves me to using samba or ssh and remounting when the user logs in. Is there a way to have the password given by the user at GDM passed to a gvfs-mount command to make the shares appear? Via some pam magic? This would hopefully give a consistent interface for people. Henry Burroughs Technology Director Hilton Head Preparatory School www.hhprep.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Wed Dec 2 17:53:39 2009 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:53:39 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Fresh install of F12 w/ updates and problem running ltsp-build-client In-Reply-To: <1259775765.22126.121.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> References: <1259775765.22126.121.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> Message-ID: <994441ae0912020953p2f10eed6jb9f22d8fe7577edb@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Burroughs, Henry wrote: > > Dan, > > I followed norbert's steps, they didn't make a difference.? I however did get the rebuild to work on a fresh system boot without turning "setenforce 0".? Dumb me and I deleted the i386 directory to try again with "setenforce 0" now it doesn't work.? This is what is left over in mount: > > /opt/ltsp/i386 on /var/tmp/imgcreate-cSSQL8/install_root type none (rw,bind) > > I am going to reboot the server again and see if it works again. If your ltsp-built client gets interrupted, the chroot is left behind and needs to be cleaned up. Try just unmounting the chroot, you can save yourself a reboot: for each in sys proc dev/pts dev/shm var/cache/yum / do umount /var/tmp/imgcreate*/install_root/$each done -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From robark at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 17:58:54 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:58:54 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Beta Fl_TeacherTool 0.71 for K12Linux (LTSP5) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > Hi Rex, > > Since I am the developer one would expect me to be the obvious choice > for this position. However, I am no longer using LTSP. I have switched > to DRBL. I will be porting my software to that platform soon (as I > need it for myself). However, I am committed to maintaining > Fl_TeacherTool for LTSP in terms of bug fixes and ensuring it works > in the future but I probably won't be adding any new features. Except > maybe one: shutdown class (LTSP5 makes this now possible) As I > understand it, being a maintainer involves testing it out in every new > release of Fedora. What I propose is that I continue to maintain the > code but that another person who is using ltsp be the package > maintainer. I would of course work in co-operation with this person to > ensure things work smoothly. > > On a side note: now that x11vnc is in the Fedora repo, this only > leaves one package which Fl_TeacherTool needs that is not in the > repos. It's vncsnapshot. > http://vncsnapshot.sourceforge.net/ > Oh and last I checked vncreflector package seemed broken in Fedora, that's why my install docs recommended installing from source. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From hburroughs at hhprep.org Wed Dec 2 19:34:51 2009 From: hburroughs at hhprep.org (Henry Burroughs) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:34:51 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Solved F12 chroot issue Message-ID: <1259782491.22126.125.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> Culprit is nscd. You need to "service nscd stop" before you build the chroot. See this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481796 Google is your friend.... of course on the right search terms. =) Henry Burroughs Technology Director Hilton Head Preparatory School www.hhprep.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dhuckaby at paasda.org Mon Dec 7 20:25:45 2009 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:25:45 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares In-Reply-To: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D72@exchange2.sbschools.net> References: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D72@exchange2.sbschools.net> Message-ID: <4B1D64C9.7030409@paasda.org> Samba has this automagically done if you enable the HOMES share I believe. --Huck dcurtis at sbschools.net wrote: > Anyone have any tricks for mounting a windows share so a user can get to > his/her user folder on a windows share? > > > > We are starting to introduce a K12Linux server and are looking for a way > to have the users share ready for them as soon as they login instead of > having them browse to the server/share. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________ > This email may contain information protected under the Family > Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance > Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If this email contains > confidential and/or privileged health or student information and you are > not entitled to access such information under FERPA or HIPAA, federal > regulations require that you destroy this email without reviewing it and > you may not forward it to anyone. > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* > ,*ClamAV* and *Bitdefender* > , and is > believed to be clean. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From dcurtis at sbschools.net Tue Dec 8 14:20:10 2009 From: dcurtis at sbschools.net (dcurtis at sbschools.net) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:20:10 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares In-Reply-To: <4B1D64C9.7030409@paasda.org> References: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D72@exchange2.sbschools.net> <4B1D64C9.7030409@paasda.org> Message-ID: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D7E@exchange2.sbschools.net> The only thing I can find on this is to do the Samba server as the windows home folder, I want to do the opposite. -----Original Message----- From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Huck Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:26 PM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares Samba has this automagically done if you enable the HOMES share I believe. --Huck dcurtis at sbschools.net wrote: > Anyone have any tricks for mounting a windows share so a user can get to > his/her user folder on a windows share? > > > > We are starting to introduce a K12Linux server and are looking for a way > to have the users share ready for them as soon as they login instead of > having them browse to the server/share. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________ > This email may contain information protected under the Family > Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance > Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). 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From ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Tue Dec 8 14:45:26 2009 From: ltsp at symbio-technologies.com (Gideon Romm) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:45:26 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares In-Reply-To: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D7E@exchange2.sbschools.net> References: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D72@exchange2.sbschools.net> <4B1D64C9.7030409@paasda.org> <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D7E@exchange2.sbschools.net> Message-ID: <1260283526.25165.2.camel@bart.nr.symbio-technologies.com> Try the last section of this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ActiveDirectoryIntegration You may need to translate Ubuntu packages to Fedora ones, but the principal is the same. -Gadi On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 09:20 -0500, dcurtis at sbschools.net wrote: > The only thing I can find on this is to do the Samba server as the > windows home folder, I want to do the opposite. > > -----Original Message----- > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On > Behalf Of Huck > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:26 PM > To: Support list for open source software in schools. > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares > > Samba has this automagically done if you enable the HOMES share I > believe. > > --Huck > > dcurtis at sbschools.net wrote: > > Anyone have any tricks for mounting a windows share so a user can get > to > > his/her user folder on a windows share? > > > > > > > > We are starting to introduce a K12Linux server and are looking for a > way > > to have the users share ready for them as soon as they login instead > of > > having them browse to the server/share. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > This email may contain information protected under the Family > > Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance > > Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If this email contains > > confidential and/or privileged health or student information and you > are > > not entitled to access such information under FERPA or HIPAA, federal > > regulations require that you destroy this email without reviewing it > and > > you may not forward it to anyone. > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by *MailScanner* > > ,*ClamAV* and *Bitdefender* > > , and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________ > This email may contain information protected under the Family > Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance > Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If this email contains > confidential and/or privileged health or student information and you > are not entitled to access such information under FERPA or HIPAA, > federal regulations require that you destroy this email without > reviewing it and you may not forward it to anyone. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, ClamAV and Bitdefender and is > believed to be clean. > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- -------------------------------------------------------- Gideon Romm | Proud LTSP Developer ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Pay It Forward! Intel Atom 1.6GHz, 512MB RAM + Symbiont Boot Stick = $275 10% of order goes to school or open source project of your choice! Buy yourself a lab or office and use your donation to set up a school, pay for a desperately needed feature added to a software package, or sponsor part of LTSP's annual developer's conference LTSP-by-the-sea! Check out: http://www.symbio-technologies.com/payitforward From pstech at pawneeschools.org Tue Dec 8 15:22:50 2009 From: pstech at pawneeschools.org (Bob Hagler) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:22:50 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares References: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D72@exchange2.sbschools.net><4B1D64C9.7030409@paasda.org> <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D7E@exchange2.sbschools.net> Message-ID: This link might be what you are looking for. -Bob H. http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/Technical:ADIntegration#Mounting_only_an_individual_user.27s_folder From enagel at northlakechristian.org Wed Dec 9 16:38:21 2009 From: enagel at northlakechristian.org (Eric John Nagel) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 10:38:21 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Resolution Config Problem = =SOLVED In-Reply-To: <1258476830.27372.12.camel@bart.nr.symbio-technologies.com> References: <1257976761.30091.4.camel@bart.nr.symbio-technologies.com> <11ecf5161d0bbfa89a8aed77d184b7e0.squirrel@mail> <1258476830.27372.12.camel@bart.nr.symbio-technologies.com> Message-ID: <5f432a23cb3b9c08c8113efe56f23a92.squirrel@mail.northlakechristian.org> Thanks to all of you who helped, we now have resolution!!!! ejn > Eric, > > When you cannot get the mode you are after, the best thing to do is: > > 1. as you say, make sure the config file is being read. One way to do > this is to set: > > SCREEN_02=shell > SCREEN_07=ldm > > in lts.conf and reboot the client. Once the client is booted, you > should be able to press ctrl-alt-F2 to get to screen 2 and be presented > with a root shell on the client. If you do not get a root shell, your > config file is not being read. > > 2. Look in the client's Xorg log file. If you follow #1 above, and it > *does* work, from the root shell, scp the Xorg log file to the server: > > scp /var/log/Xorg*log user at server:/home/user > > Then, attach the log file to an email to this listserv, if you want some > help with it. The log file will give you all the gory details of what > modes it rejected and why. That should give you all the info you need > to adjust things properly and not to guess. :) > > -Gadi > > PS: One other note: in some older versions of LTSP5, you needed to add > a line: > > CONFIGURE_X=True > > in order for a xorg.conf file to be created from your parameters. Try > adding that line to your pasted configuration and see if that helps. > > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 09:09 -0600, Eric John Nagel wrote: >> > You most likely need to adjust: >> > >> > X_HORZSYNC >> > X_VERTREFRESH >> > >> > (see attached email) >> > >> > -Gadi >> > -- >> > >> >> Thank you so much for your help. >> Here is what we have added to our /var/opt/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf >> >> [default] >> XSERVER=trident >> X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 >> #XRANDR_MODE_0="1024x768" >> X_VERTREFRESH="55-75" >> X_HORZSYNC="30-100" >> XRANDR_DISABLE=True >> X_MODE_0=1024x768 >> >> You may notice we also tried it with the XRANDR_MODE_0="1024x768" >> (uncommented) and the XRANDR_DISABLE and X_MODE_0 commented out. Either >> way it does not work. Still 800x600 Max. >> >> We would really like to get this to work! Any other suggestions? >> How can we tell that this file is being read? >> Must we reboot the server and client to test? (We have.) >> >> >> >> Shlama w'burkate, ejn >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see > -- > -------------------------------------------------------- > Gideon Romm | Proud LTSP Developer > ltsp at symbio-technologies.com > > Pay It Forward! > Intel Atom 1.6GHz, 512MB RAM + Symbiont Boot Stick = $275 > 10% of order goes to school or open source project of your choice! > > Buy yourself a lab or office and use your donation to set up a school, > pay for a desperately needed feature added to a software package, > or sponsor part of LTSP's annual developer's conference LTSP-by-the-sea! > > Check out: http://www.symbio-technologies.com/payitforward > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > Shalom U'Vrachot, ejn From dcurtis at sbschools.net Thu Dec 10 14:01:29 2009 From: dcurtis at sbschools.net (dcurtis at sbschools.net) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:01:29 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares In-Reply-To: <1260283526.25165.2.camel@bart.nr.symbio-technologies.com> References: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D72@exchange2.sbschools.net><4B1D64C9.7030409@paasda.org><73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0D7E@exchange2.sbschools.net> <1260283526.25165.2.camel@bart.nr.symbio-technologies.com> Message-ID: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A461955450F0DDE@exchange2.sbschools.net> This link definitely helped lead me into the right direction. I have to add two lines to the /etc/pam.d/gdm file: auth optional pam_mount.so try_first_pass session optional pam_mount.so and add the mount option I need into the /etc/security/pam_mount.conf.xml What I am trying to do now is find if Linux would understand an environment variable to mount to the Windows Users home folder. The reason I would like that is our students are put into a folder based on year of graduation. Thanks, Dave -----Original Message----- From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Gideon Romm Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:45 AM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: RE: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares Try the last section of this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ActiveDirectoryIntegration You may need to translate Ubuntu packages to Fedora ones, but the principal is the same. -Gadi On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 09:20 -0500, dcurtis at sbschools.net wrote: > The only thing I can find on this is to do the Samba server as the > windows home folder, I want to do the opposite. > > -----Original Message----- > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On > Behalf Of Huck > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:26 PM > To: Support list for open source software in schools. > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] mounting windows shares > > Samba has this automagically done if you enable the HOMES share I > believe. > > --Huck > > dcurtis at sbschools.net wrote: > > Anyone have any tricks for mounting a windows share so a user can get > to > > his/her user folder on a windows share? > > > > > > > > We are starting to introduce a K12Linux server and are looking for a > way > > to have the users share ready for them as soon as they login instead > of > > having them browse to the server/share. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > This email may contain information protected under the Family > > Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance > > Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If this email contains > > confidential and/or privileged health or student information and you > are > > not entitled to access such information under FERPA or HIPAA, federal > > regulations require that you destroy this email without reviewing it > and > > you may not forward it to anyone. > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by *MailScanner* > > ,*ClamAV* and *Bitdefender* > > , and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________ > This email may contain information protected under the Family > Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance > Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If this email contains > confidential and/or privileged health or student information and you > are not entitled to access such information under FERPA or HIPAA, > federal regulations require that you destroy this email without > reviewing it and you may not forward it to anyone. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, ClamAV and Bitdefender and is > believed to be clean. > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- -------------------------------------------------------- Gideon Romm | Proud LTSP Developer ltsp at symbio-technologies.com Pay It Forward! Intel Atom 1.6GHz, 512MB RAM + Symbiont Boot Stick = $275 10% of order goes to school or open source project of your choice! Buy yourself a lab or office and use your donation to set up a school, pay for a desperately needed feature added to a software package, or sponsor part of LTSP's annual developer's conference LTSP-by-the-sea! Check out: http://www.symbio-technologies.com/payitforward _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ This email may contain information protected under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If this email contains confidential and/or privileged health or student information and you are not entitled to access such information under FERPA or HIPAA, federal regulations require that you destroy this email without reviewing it and you may not forward it to anyone. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, ClamAV and Bitdefender and is believed to be clean. From HBurroughs at hhprep.org Fri Dec 11 14:57:17 2009 From: HBurroughs at hhprep.org (Burroughs, Henry) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:57:17 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] SPICE anyone? Message-ID: <1260543437.23055.2.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> Is SPICE the surprise counterpart/replacement for LTSP? Seems like a nice Christmas gift to me. <> =) http://www.techworld.com.au/article/329382/red_hat_open_sources_desktop_application_protocol Henry Burroughs Technology Director Hilton Head Preparatory School www.hhprep.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks - Nathan Shaffer St. John the Apostle school nshaffer at sja-eagles.com From robark at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 18:42:43 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:42:43 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] SPICE anyone? In-Reply-To: <1260543437.23055.2.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> References: <1260543437.23055.2.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Burroughs, Henry wrote: > > Is SPICE the surprise counterpart/replacement for LTSP?? Seems like a nice Christmas gift to me. > > http://www.techworld.com.au/article/329382/red_hat_open_sources_desktop_application_protocol > > Here is the announcement http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2009/spice-os.html Here is the network transport technology http://www.spice-space.org/ Here is what Red Hat is offering http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/desktop/ (the whitepaper in the above link is very good at explaining the technology) To me it seems like a hybrid adaptive tech that takes from (ltsp + local apps + local devices) + Virtualization (KVM) + nomachine's NX As I understand it, it's providing rendering of kvm virtual machines remotely through spice. But with optimized adaptive load of video rendering between client and server with working audio (both ways) (That's amazing!). The cool part is it can run both Windows and Linux at the same time! The down side is you now have 30 VM's to manage instead of 1 ltsp server. Maybe the GUI manager will make this easy. Seems like users can be given root access to their own VM's (if you want) but I think this is not a good idea anyway. Or maybe just give them priviliges to install official packages, as was the initial case with Fedora 12. Part of the reason ltsp and drbl are so nice is that if you install/remove software it is done for all (some may find this a drawback, I do not). Now you don't have multiple physical box OS's to manage but virtual ones (a vm file) none the less. The problem is if you want to modify say a common file in /etc for printer configuration. You could script it (as DRBL does) to modify all clients (if they resided on the same filesystem) but now you must enter the vm (run it) to do so. In addition, I think running 30 entire OS's (with all the associated processes) will need higher server req than just 30 Desktop environments (gnome) + running apps. Although it is cool that you can isolate and partition hardware resources so no user can effectively take down the server. It's also cool that you can dynamically give some users more/less computing power (cpu/ram). Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like a client needs an OS with a browser first before it can accept a remote desktop session. Where does the spice client reside? But this may be an advantage for it's purpose as it seems to work over a WAN. I think overall it has some great new features. But I think it may be geared towards more enterprise customers where they want mixed environments and real remote (WAN) access. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From robark at gmail.com Sat Dec 12 18:41:03 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:41:03 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Local apps enable ltsp5? In-Reply-To: <6AD02441-9D67-4C53-9C4F-9DA088280420@grandvache.com> References: <6AD02441-9D67-4C53-9C4F-9DA088280420@grandvache.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Nathan Shaffer wrote: > We currently have a test server set up with F10-LTSP and was trying to find > some info on enabling local apps for Firefox, OOffice & a few other programs > (like tuxtype & tuxpaint). The wiki doesn't seem to have any entries on this > subject and I just come up with fragments searching the list. > > Can someone point me in the right direction with regards to implementing > this? > Install new software in chroot chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 mount /proc yum install firefox umount /proc exit launch app as a local app /usr/bin/ltsp-localapps /usr/bin/firefox If network apps don't work then you may need to setup nat in your firewall on your external nic iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE You can also set this up with the gui program system-config-firewall -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Dec 13 20:00:37 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:00:37 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Module not found Message-ID: <1260734437.10401.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, Centos5 - K12LTSP Built a kernel module for the rtl8101e/8102 Realtek GigE nic for an Acer One laptop to boot from k12ltsp. I have always just built kernel modules in the actual server /src tree then copy to the lib/modules dir of ltsp tree and they have always worked. With the r8101 that was built from source from the Realtek website. You simply do a make && make install and your done. I made a config file for this client in the pxe dir which the client does of course see this file correctly as it gets the right ip address and tries loading the r8101 module but stops with " Fatal: Module r8101 not found." I also for kicks built the r8169 module ,from Realtek's website the same manner and if I specify that module ltsp does try to load it but kernel panics. I also put an entry for both modules in the modules.dep file. In F10 for example the r8169 module is used by default BTW. The permissions on the the file appears to be correct. Has anyone ever run into this snafoo? Thanks, Barry From dcurtis at sbschools.net Mon Dec 14 15:45:00 2009 From: dcurtis at sbschools.net (dcurtis at sbschools.net) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:45:00 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Local apps enable ltsp5? In-Reply-To: <6AD02441-9D67-4C53-9C4F-9DA088280420@grandvache.com> References: <6AD02441-9D67-4C53-9C4F-9DA088280420@grandvache.com> Message-ID: <73461DFCD2207F44A16F136A46195545472B95@exchange2.sbschools.net> Basically you chroot into your terminal client then install the apps you want local. Once installed rebuild the client then setup your launcher to run the app with ltsp-localapps. -----Original Message----- From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Shaffer Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:36 PM To: k12osn at redhat.com Subject: [K12OSN] Local apps enable ltsp5? We currently have a test server set up with F10-LTSP and was trying to find some info on enabling local apps for Firefox, OOffice & a few other programs (like tuxtype & tuxpaint). The wiki doesn't seem to have any entries on this subject and I just come up with fragments searching the list. Can someone point me in the right direction with regards to implementing this? Thanks - Nathan Shaffer St. John the Apostle school nshaffer at sja-eagles.com _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ This email may contain information protected under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) or the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If this email contains confidential and/or privileged health or student information and you are not entitled to access such information under FERPA or HIPAA, federal regulations require that you destroy this email without reviewing it and you may not forward it to anyone. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, ClamAV and Bitdefender and is believed to be clean. From hburroughs at hhprep.org Mon Dec 14 16:34:06 2009 From: hburroughs at hhprep.org (Henry Burroughs) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:34:06 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Local apps enable ltsp5? In-Reply-To: <20091213170018.E389F6196B2@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20091213170018.E389F6196B2@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1260808446.28401.11.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:41:03 -0800 > From: Robert Arkiletian > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Local apps enable ltsp5? > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Nathan Shaffer wrote: > > We currently have a test server set up with F10-LTSP and was trying to find > > some info on enabling local apps for Firefox, OOffice & a few other programs > > (like tuxtype & tuxpaint). The wiki doesn't seem to have any entries on this > > subject and I just come up with fragments searching the list. > > > > Can someone point me in the right direction with regards to implementing > > this? > > > > Install new software in chroot > chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 > mount /proc > yum install firefox > umount /proc > exit > > launch app as a local app > /usr/bin/ltsp-localapps /usr/bin/firefox > > If network apps don't work then you may need to setup nat in your > firewall on your external nic > > iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE > > You can also set this up with the gui program system-config-firewall In /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS = mozilla-firefox To find the apps to list out for LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS, look under /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/applications List them out without the .desktop file. This actually substitutes in the menu the local app version instead of the version on the server. Henry Burroughs Technology Director Hilton Head Preparatory School www.hhprep.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rdieter at math.unl.edu Mon Dec 14 18:18:13 2009 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:18:13 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Re: Beta Fl_TeacherTool 0.71 for K12Linux (LTSP5) References: Message-ID: Robert Arkiletian wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Robert Arkiletian > wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: >>> Robert Arkiletian wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Robert Arkiletian >>>> wrote: >>>>> Okay it's done. At least I hope it's done. >>>>> >>>>> I have developed this on F9, ?it may need a tiny tweak for F11. I have >>>>> not done extensive testing so there may be some bugs. I know screen >>>>> blanking (lock) does not work but that is a general LTSP issue. >>>>> >>>>> The install procedure is long. I think this may be a barrier to entry >>>>> for some. If someone is interested to create a script for the install >>>>> (or an rpm) I think that would be much appreciated by many. >>>>> >>>>> BTW this new version does *not* have the security vulnerability that >>>>> the old version for ltsp 4.x did :) >>>>> >>>>> Download >>>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html >>>> >>>> Good news. >>>> Here is an i386 RPM for F9 or F10 prepared by Barry Cisna. Incredibly, >>>> it also takes care of the entire installation process except for >>>> adding persons who will run Fl_TeacherTool to the teachers group. I >>>> have *not* tested this RPM so please report any problems to this list. >>>> >>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html >>> >>> Anyone interested in helping get this package reviewed and included in >>> fedora proper? ?I'm offerring to help with reviewing, and potentially >>> comaintaining it. >>> >> >> Hi Rex, >> >> Since I am the developer one would expect me to be the obvious choice >> for this position. However, I am no longer using LTSP. I have switched >> to DRBL. I will be porting my software to that platform soon (as I >> need it for myself). However, I am committed to maintaining >> Fl_TeacherTool for LTSP in terms of ?bug fixes and ensuring it works >> in the future but I probably won't be adding any new features. Except >> maybe one: shutdown class (LTSP5 makes this now possible) ?As I >> understand it, being a maintainer involves testing it out in every new >> release of Fedora. What I propose is that I continue to maintain the >> code but that another person who is using ltsp be the package >> maintainer. I would of course work in co-operation with this person to >> ensure things work smoothly. >> >> On a side note: now that x11vnc is in the Fedora repo, this only >> leaves one package which Fl_TeacherTool needs that is not in the >> repos. It's vncsnapshot. >> http://vncsnapshot.sourceforge.net/ > > Actually there is tightvnc also. But I only need two files from that > package. From my install docs: > > cp vncviewer binary to /usr/bin but rename it to teachertool-vncviewer > cp vncpasswd binary to /usr/bin but rename it to teachertool-vncpasswd Could fedora tigervnc's vncviewer and vncpasswd suffice here? -- Rex From robark at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 01:20:23 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:20:23 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Re: Beta Fl_TeacherTool 0.71 for K12Linux (LTSP5) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Robert Arkiletian wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Robert Arkiletian >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: >>>> Robert Arkiletian wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Robert Arkiletian >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Okay it's done. At least I hope it's done. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have developed this on F9, ?it may need a tiny tweak for F11. I have >>>>>> not done extensive testing so there may be some bugs. I know screen >>>>>> blanking (lock) does not work but that is a general LTSP issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> The install procedure is long. I think this may be a barrier to entry >>>>>> for some. If someone is interested to create a script for the install >>>>>> (or an rpm) I think that would be much appreciated by many. >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW this new version does *not* have the security vulnerability that >>>>>> the old version for ltsp 4.x did :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Download >>>>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html >>>>> >>>>> Good news. >>>>> Here is an i386 RPM for F9 or F10 prepared by Barry Cisna. Incredibly, >>>>> it also takes care of the entire installation process except for >>>>> adding persons who will run Fl_TeacherTool to the teachers group. I >>>>> have *not* tested this RPM so please report any problems to this list. >>>>> >>>>> http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/download.html >>>> >>>> Anyone interested in helping get this package reviewed and included in >>>> fedora proper? ?I'm offerring to help with reviewing, and potentially >>>> comaintaining it. >>>> >>> >>> Hi Rex, >>> >>> Since I am the developer one would expect me to be the obvious choice >>> for this position. However, I am no longer using LTSP. I have switched >>> to DRBL. I will be porting my software to that platform soon (as I >>> need it for myself). However, I am committed to maintaining >>> Fl_TeacherTool for LTSP in terms of ?bug fixes and ensuring it works >>> in the future but I probably won't be adding any new features. Except >>> maybe one: shutdown class (LTSP5 makes this now possible) ?As I >>> understand it, being a maintainer involves testing it out in every new >>> release of Fedora. What I propose is that I continue to maintain the >>> code but that another person who is using ltsp be the package >>> maintainer. I would of course work in co-operation with this person to >>> ensure things work smoothly. >>> >>> On a side note: now that x11vnc is in the Fedora repo, this only >>> leaves one package which Fl_TeacherTool needs that is not in the >>> repos. It's vncsnapshot. >>> http://vncsnapshot.sourceforge.net/ >> >> Actually there is tightvnc also. But I only need two files from that >> package. From my install docs: >> >> cp vncviewer binary to /usr/bin but rename it to teachertool-vncviewer >> cp vncpasswd binary to /usr/bin but rename it to teachertool-vncpasswd > > Could fedora tigervnc's vncviewer and vncpasswd suffice here? > Maybe. I picked tightvnc when RealVnc was the standard in Fedora. VncReflector works best with Tightvnc and the BGR233 8-bit format. "VNC Reflector is a specialized VNC server which acts as a proxy sitting between real VNC server (host) and a number of VNC clients. It was designed to work efficiently with large number of clients, but current version is optimized to work primarily with clients that request 8-bit color format known as BGR233. Other color formats are supported too but performance may be worse if there are many such clients." What's the difference between tightvnc, realvnc and tigervnc? I thought tigervnc was like realvnc.The command line args are different for tight and real. I noticed tiger command line args are like realvnc. fl-tt uses tiger for monitor/control and tight for broadcasting (using vncreflector) as the proxy. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From indradg at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 16:52:25 2009 From: indradg at gmail.com (Indranil Das Gupta) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:22:25 +0530 Subject: [K12OSN] Dependency error while installing packages into ltsp5 chroot Message-ID: Hi, I'm using K12Linux (on F10/Cambridge). I tried to install the openssh-server into the ltsp5 chroot, following the instructions at http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/k12linuxinstall.txt The errors look like this http://pastebin.ca/1701706 Would really appreciate a bit of clue on working my way out of this. I used to use FL_teachertool on LTSP 4.x. Would love to be able to do the same on 5.x. thanks in advance -indra From robark at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 17:07:34 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:07:34 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Dependency error while installing packages into ltsp5 chroot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Indranil Das Gupta wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using K12Linux (on F10/Cambridge). > > I tried to install the openssh-server into the ltsp5 chroot, following > the instructions at > http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/k12linuxinstall.txt > > The errors look like this http://pastebin.ca/1701706 > > Would really appreciate a bit of clue on working my way out of this. I > used to use FL_teachertool on LTSP 4.x. Would love to be able to do > the same on 5.x. > This looks like the problem #e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems # --> Missing Dependency: e2fsprogs-libs = 1.41.3-2.fc10 is needed by package e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386 (installed) #audit-libs-python-1.7.11-2.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems # --> Missing Dependency: audit-libs = 1.7.11-2.fc10 is needed by package audit-libs-python-1.7.11-2.fc10.i386 (installed) #libselinux-utils-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems # --> Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by package libselinux-utils-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) #libselinux-python-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems # --> Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by package libselinux-python-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) try yum installing these four packages first. #Error: Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by package libselinux-python-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) #Error: Missing Dependency: audit-libs = 1.7.11-2.fc10 is needed by package audit-libs-python-1.7.11-2.fc10.i386 (installed) #Error: Missing Dependency: e2fsprogs-libs = 1.41.3-2.fc10 is needed by package e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386 (installed) #Error: Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by package libselinux-utils-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) If that doesn't work try #yum clean all then try installing open-sshserver again. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From rdieter at math.unl.edu Tue Dec 15 20:42:30 2009 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:42:30 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Re: Re: Re: Beta Fl_TeacherTool 0.71 for K12Linux (LTSP5) References: Message-ID: Robert Arkiletian wrote: > What's the difference between tightvnc, realvnc and tigervnc? I > thought tigervnc was like realvnc.The command line args are different > for tight and real. I noticed tiger command line args are like > realvnc. http://www.tigervnc.com/ "TigerVNC is a suite of VNC servers and clients that have a focus on performance and remote display functionality. Originally this software was based on the (never released) VNC 4 branch of TightVNC." and, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TigerVNC -- Rex From indradg at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 22:09:09 2009 From: indradg at gmail.com (Indranil Das Gupta) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:39:09 +0530 Subject: [K12OSN] Dependency error while installing packages into ltsp5 chroot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Indranil Das Gupta wrote: > This looks like the problem > > #e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems > # ?--> Missing Dependency: e2fsprogs-libs = 1.41.3-2.fc10 is needed by > package e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386 (installed) > #audit-libs-python-1.7.11-2.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems > # ?--> Missing Dependency: audit-libs = 1.7.11-2.fc10 is needed by > package audit-libs-python-1.7.11-2.fc10.i386 (installed) > #libselinux-utils-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems > # ?--> Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by > package libselinux-utils-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) > #libselinux-python-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems > # ?--> Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by > package libselinux-python-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) > > try yum installing these four packages first. > If that doesn't work try > > #yum clean all no go! tried both options in that order. downloads the packages and then fails. :( -indra From robark at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 22:45:39 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:45:39 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Dependency error while installing packages into ltsp5 chroot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Indranil Das Gupta wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Indranil Das Gupta wrote: > > >> This looks like the problem >> >> #e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems >> # ?--> Missing Dependency: e2fsprogs-libs = 1.41.3-2.fc10 is needed by >> package e2fsprogs-1.41.3-2.fc10.i386 (installed) >> #audit-libs-python-1.7.11-2.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems >> # ?--> Missing Dependency: audit-libs = 1.7.11-2.fc10 is needed by >> package audit-libs-python-1.7.11-2.fc10.i386 (installed) >> #libselinux-utils-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems >> # ?--> Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by >> package libselinux-utils-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) >> #libselinux-python-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 from installed has depsolving problems >> # ?--> Missing Dependency: libselinux = 2.0.73-1.fc10 is needed by >> package libselinux-python-2.0.73-1.fc10.i386 (installed) >> >> try yum installing these four packages first. > > > >> If that doesn't work try >> >> #yum clean all > > no go! tried both options in that order. downloads the packages and then fails. > > :( > > -indra Anyone have K12Linux on F10 to check and see if yum install openssh-server fails inside the chroot? -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Fri Dec 18 12:17:25 2009 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:17:25 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Dependency error while installing packages into ltsp5 chroot Message-ID: <1261138645.7427.4.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Hello, openssh-server will install in ltsp / chroot on F10 without problems. Take care, Barry From charlie at smbis.com Sat Dec 19 07:11:30 2009 From: charlie at smbis.com (Charlie) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:11:30 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] System on Chip systems Message-ID: <1261206690.15356.2.camel@cws2.localdomain> Check out this all-in-one computer keyboard. Requires only a mouse and monitor... http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/NorhTec-Gecko-Surfboard/ Also check out their Gecko EduBook. http://www.norhtec.com/products/gecko/index.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Dec 20 13:23:27 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:23:27 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP add ons Message-ID: <1261315407.21937.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, Just thought I would throw this out seeings how it is end of year. Possibly someone here may be able to use one or more of these with their k12ltsp setting. These are some rpms I made to install to Centos5 to cut down on all of the dependency &*%$!. Each dir contains a README to give you a brief explanation of what happens._ 1. fl_teacherTool-0.62 This installs and does all the behind the scene voodoo to make fl_teachertool-0.62 work. ftp://eazylivin.net/server/fl_teachertool-0.62/ 2. fl_teachertool-0.71 Same functionality as 0.62 other than this will only work on K12Linux/LTSP5 ftp://eazylivin.net/server/fl_teachertool-0.71/ 3. hostap Put an wifi pci card in your k12ltsp server and this will make it an access point. This will not work for older mostly 'b' spec cards. ftp://eazylivin.net/server/hostap/ 4. samba-vscan-clamav Install this onto an existing Samba server setup,and forget about having to install anti-virus software onto each M$ Winders machine. This will only work with students home folders residing on the Samba server of course.This works very sweet! Locks known infected files on the spot ftp://eazylivin.net/server/samba-vscan-clamav/ 5. wpkg Deploy Winders apps to Winder clients with this. Again You must have a working Samba server,and lan machines using the Samba server as their home folder dir. ftp://eazylivin.net/server/wpkg/ 6. sis7019audio Installs the audio driver module for sis7019 TC's ftp://eazylivin.net/server/sis7019audio/ 7. jperf A realtime network bandwidth monitor tool. Install on your K12LTSP server. Start in server mode on the server itself. Start in client mode on a TC. See what kind of bandwidth you have between the two. Works very nice for measuring vpn's between buildings! This has been a popular one. ftp://eazylivin.net/server/jperf/ Sorry no commercials here,,,,:) Merry Xmas!!! Take Care, Barry Cisna