From microman at cmosnetworks.com Wed Jul 1 15:33:42 2009 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:33:42 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Orchard educational software--Linux-friendly? Message-ID: <4A4B81D6.9060909@cmosnetworks.com> Hey folks, I just got an inquiry about educational software from some company called Orchard. Has anybody tried out their stuff on a GNU/Linux platform (e. g. K12LTSP)? Thanks, --TP From robark at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 16:53:35 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:53:35 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] F11 K12Linux ready? Message-ID: Wondering if K12Linux is finished for Fedora 11. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From peter at scheie.homedns.org Wed Jul 1 21:35:13 2009 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:35:13 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP Chrooted Environment Misunderstanding In-Reply-To: <904774730906300742l176cd129x5cb88cfd984c93e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A496D25.3020806@isp-systems.net> <904774730906300742l176cd129x5cb88cfd984c93e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A4BD691.4030601@scheie.homedns.org> What Todd wrote is correct. In K12LTSP, access to the chroot environment on the client is via Ctrl-Alt-F1, but must first be enabled in the lst.conf file via the 'SCREEN02 = shell' parameter. In the lts.conf file there is a parameter listed for enabling support for local apps, but it doesn't really work. It was put there at the time more as a place holder for the future. The reason LTSP 4.2, on which K12LTSP was based, doesn't have a full chrooted environment is that the idea hadn't yet come to full fruition at the time. If you need local apps, use K12Linux/LTSP5. Peter Todd O'Bryan wrote: > The system in the chroot environment is very basic--it's just enough > stuff to get the terminal up and running. Once the terminal is running > a basic OS, it connects to the server and acts as a remote X session. > When you log in on the terminal, you're logging onto the server, not > the chroot environment that's running on the terminal. The idea is > that a terminal that can only run basic stuff gets the full power of a > much nicer server, because everything really runs on the server. The > terminal is just a way of viewing the server processes. > > There is a way to get to the chroot environment that's running on the > terminal--if I remember correctly, Ctrl-Alt-F1 will display a console > that really is running on the terminal. But you'd only use that to > debug problems, not as a normal operating mode. > > Todd > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:40 PM, murrah boswell wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I know everyone is busy and excited about Fedora 11 K12Linux, but I am >> attached to the K12LTSP system and have a couple of questions. I know these >> are questions out of antiquity for some people who have been with K12LTSP >> from the beginning, but please humor me here. >> >> I must have a misunderstanding about the /opt/ltsp/i386 chrooted environment >> apparently. From a client terminal, when I right click on the desktop and >> select to Create Launcher, Browse for Command and select File System, why is >> it that the client terminal has full visibility of the server file system >> and not just the chrooted environment? Same is true of a Terminal window; I >> have total visibility of the server file system. >> >> Is there a reason why the K12LTSP isn't truly a chrooted environment? >> >> Along the same questioning, how do I install an application, such as >> linphone, in the chrooted environment and force the client to use "local" >> instantiation of linphone and not allow them to even see the server based >> instantiation of linphone? >> >> >> Regards, >> Murrah Boswell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From odin at gnuskole.no Wed Jul 1 22:37:50 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:37:50 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] F11 K12Linux ready? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090701223211.M88509@gnuskole.no> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:53:35 -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote > Wondering if K12Linux is finished for Fedora 11. I hope so :-) We've already put it in production at our school (380 thin clients)... and it seems to work fine. Some clients needs a bit tweeking with the "XSERVER =" in the lts.conf. BTW - we're using F11 x86_64 - and the alpha flash-plugin from Adobe. Can someone on this list explain to me the format I must use with the "TIMEZONE =" in lts.conf to get the correct timezone on the clients? I've tried "UTC Europe/Oslo", "GMT+01"/"GMT+0100"/"GMT+1" and so on, but nothing seems to work. Odin From otrcomm at isp-systems.net Thu Jul 2 15:44:47 2009 From: otrcomm at isp-systems.net (murrah boswell) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:44:47 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] K12LTSP Chrooted Environment Misunderstanding In-Reply-To: <4A4BD691.4030601@scheie.homedns.org> References: <4A496D25.3020806@isp-systems.net> <904774730906300742l176cd129x5cb88cfd984c93e1@mail.gmail.com> <4A4BD691.4030601@scheie.homedns.org> Message-ID: <4A4CD5EF.40108@isp-systems.net> Hello Peter, > What Todd wrote is correct. In K12LTSP, access to the chroot > environment on the client is via Ctrl-Alt-F1, but must first be enabled > in the lst.conf file via the 'SCREEN02 = shell' parameter. In the > lts.conf file there is a parameter listed for enabling support for local > apps, but it doesn't really work. It was put there at the time more as > a place holder for the future. The reason LTSP 4.2, on which K12LTSP > was based, doesn't have a full chrooted environment is that the idea > hadn't yet come to full fruition at the time. If you need local apps, > use K12Linux/LTSP5. Thanks for your reply! By "K12Linux/LTSP5" do you mean the Fedora 10 version with LTSP5 or do you mean the Centos5/RHEL5 with LTSP5? Either way, how would I force the terminal clients to use an application that is in the chrooted environment? I am trying to get voice communication between the server and the TCs, and am currently experimenting with Sjphone for its simplicity. The problem is that when I start Sjphone from one of the TCs, it is actually running on the server so I can not establish communication. That is, if I dial one of the TC IPs from the server, I am just looping back on myself. I am not sure, but I figure if Sjphone is running from the TC chrooted environment, I should be able to connect to that instantiation via IP from the server. Regards, Murrah > > Peter > > Todd O'Bryan wrote: >> The system in the chroot environment is very basic--it's just enough >> stuff to get the terminal up and running. Once the terminal is running >> a basic OS, it connects to the server and acts as a remote X session. >> When you log in on the terminal, you're logging onto the server, not >> the chroot environment that's running on the terminal. The idea is >> that a terminal that can only run basic stuff gets the full power of a >> much nicer server, because everything really runs on the server. The >> terminal is just a way of viewing the server processes. >> >> There is a way to get to the chroot environment that's running on the >> terminal--if I remember correctly, Ctrl-Alt-F1 will display a console >> that really is running on the terminal. But you'd only use that to >> debug problems, not as a normal operating mode. >> >> Todd >> >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:40 PM, murrah >> boswell wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I know everyone is busy and excited about Fedora 11 K12Linux, but I am >>> attached to the K12LTSP system and have a couple of questions. I know >>> these >>> are questions out of antiquity for some people who have been with >>> K12LTSP >>> from the beginning, but please humor me here. >>> >>> I must have a misunderstanding about the /opt/ltsp/i386 chrooted >>> environment >>> apparently. From a client terminal, when I right click on the desktop >>> and >>> select to Create Launcher, Browse for Command and select File System, >>> why is >>> it that the client terminal has full visibility of the server file >>> system >>> and not just the chrooted environment? Same is true of a Terminal >>> window; I >>> have total visibility of the server file system. >>> >>> Is there a reason why the K12LTSP isn't truly a chrooted environment? >>> >>> Along the same questioning, how do I install an application, such as >>> linphone, in the chrooted environment and force the client to use >>> "local" >>> instantiation of linphone and not allow them to even see the server >>> based >>> instantiation of linphone? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Murrah Boswell >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From otrcomm at isp-systems.net Thu Jul 2 18:22:31 2009 From: otrcomm at isp-systems.net (murrah boswell) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:22:31 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] No new apps when Ctrl-Alt-F2 to chrooted environment Message-ID: <4A4CFAE7.4010202@isp-systems.net> Hello All, I have added some applications and dependent libraries (just copied them over) to the /opt/ltsp/i386 chroot, but from a TC, when I Ctrl-Alt-F2 into the environment, none of the applications that I added are there. Do I have to rebuild the chrooted image somehow? Regards, Murrah From daleif at imf.au.dk Thu Jul 2 20:37:24 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:37:24 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] No new apps when Ctrl-Alt-F2 to chrooted environment In-Reply-To: <4A4CFAE7.4010202@isp-systems.net> References: <4A4CFAE7.4010202@isp-systems.net> Message-ID: <4A4D1A84.8040106@imf.au.dk> murrah boswell wrote: > Hello All, > > I have added some applications and dependent libraries (just copied them > over) to the /opt/ltsp/i386 chroot, but from a TC, when I Ctrl-Alt-F2 > into the environment, none of the applications that I added are there. > Do I have to rebuild the chrooted image somehow? > > Regards, > Murrah > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see if your are using images to boot, then yes, the new applications are not in the image, they are only present in the material used for building the image. /daleif From daleif at imf.au.dk Thu Jul 2 20:50:10 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:50:10 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] some missing USB icons Message-ID: <4A4D1D82.2070503@imf.au.dk> I know most of you on this list are using Fedora and k12. I'm trying to use RHEL 5.3 with Gnoem 2.16 as an application server for LTSP 5. I'm using a client build on Ubunutu (it was easier at the time) I have most of it working, the only thing I cannot figure out is this: local devices are mounted just fine under /media/user/ and is fully accessable. Floppy and CDROM appears on the Gnome desktop and in the Places menu, but USB does not. This really bugs me, I can work around the problem by altering ltspfsmounter, but I'd really like to know what it is that is stopping USB sticks from appearing on the desktop when Floppy and CDROM appears just fine. I know this is fixed in later versions because the Ubuntu based test application server (that I use to build the client) work just fine. So I cannot figure out whether this is caused by udev, gnome-vfs or something different. any ideas? (and could someone at redhat RHEL please update Gnome a more modern version) /daleif From simonft at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 00:11:40 2009 From: simonft at gmail.com (Simon Fondrie-Teitler) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:11:40 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 on on imac ppc Message-ID: Would this work? Does anybody have any experience using it? I am working at a school with a large amount of old imacs and soon emacs lying around, unused. Would k12 run smoothly on them? If so, would I need a special set up if I wanted to use a non-ppc sever, as I don't see getting a powerful enough ppc server feasible? Thank you. -------------------------------------------------- Simon Fondrie-Teitler -------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From simonft at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 00:18:59 2009 From: simonft at gmail.com (Simon Fondrie-Teitler) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:18:59 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 on on imac ppc In-Reply-To: <4A4D4E31.9020109@cmosnetworks.com> References: <4A4D4E31.9020109@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: Ok, thanks. -------------------------------------------------- Simon Fondrie-Teitler -------------------------------------------------- On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:17 PM, "Terrell Prud? Jr." < microman at cmosnetworks.com> wrote: > If you're talking about K12LTSP 5EL, then yes, it works great. Matter of > fact, I've done it with x86, PPC, and UltraSPARC thin clients > simultaneously. The K12LTSP server was a dual-Athlon MP. > > Just search the list archives for how this was done (it's in there > somewhere), and you should be good to go. > > --TP > _______________________________ > Do you GNU ? > Microsoft Free since 2003 --the ultimate > antivirus protection! > > > Simon Fondrie-Teitler wrote: > > Would this work? Does anybody have any experience using it? I am working at > a school with a large amount of old imacs and soon emacs lying around, > unused. Would k12 run smoothly on them? If so, would I need a special set up > if I wanted to use a non-ppc sever, as I don't see getting a powerful enough > ppc server feasible? > > Thank you. > > -------------------------------------------------- > Simon Fondrie-Teitler > -------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing listK12OSN at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william at fragakis.com Fri Jul 3 16:26:18 2009 From: william at fragakis.com (William Fragakis) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:26:18 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 on on imac ppc In-Reply-To: <20090703160042.2475E61AF06@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090703160042.2475E61AF06@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1246638378.4025.27.camel@server.ltsp> The second generation imacs (iirc, ppc 350-400 mhz) work better than the first generation. Video isn't speedy because the ppc radeon driver doesn't work well. If you want to get really cute, use xfce as the desktop with one of the OS X type themes. You may want to spend some time disconnecting the old hard drives as they get really whiny (loud) with age. You can do this through the bottom panel that accesses RAM. I pressed my imac as my first client on my home (test) system when it's hard drive died. Regards, William On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 12:00 -0400, k12osn-request at redhat.com wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:11:40 -0400 > From: Simon Fondrie-Teitler > Subject: [K12OSN] K12 on on imac ppc > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Would this work? Does anybody have any experience using it? I am > working at > a school with a large amount of old imacs and soon emacs lying around, > unused. Would k12 run smoothly on them? If so, would I need a special > set up > if I wanted to use a non-ppc sever, as I don't see getting a powerful > enough > ppc server feasible? > > Thank you. > From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sat Jul 4 12:10:29 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:10:29 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 on on imac ppc Message-ID: <1246709429.32318.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Simon, Just another +1. We had 26 Imacs that were the 'shiney' colored models with the slot load cdroms. This is the easiest way I know to identify them. These worked fine. The tray load Imacs I never could get to work. I think the video I never could get to work on these? Same way with 24 Emacs we had. Never could get video to work on these either. Those Emacs were so heavy you about needed a forklift to set them in place anyway. Yuck! This has been about 5 years ago,now so,maybe things work more transparently on Macs in general on k12ltsp. The Imacs did work fine once setup,with sound and all. We simply got rid of them due to the fact the new superintendent wanted "all pcs to look the same"? As William stated its worth your time to disconnect the HD's in the Imacs,as in a room full of them it sounds like you are pulling into the parking lot of LAX!!! Take Care, Barry Cisna From simonft at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 14:41:08 2009 From: simonft at gmail.com (Simon Fondrie-Teitler) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:41:08 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12 on on imac ppc In-Reply-To: <1246709429.32318.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246709429.32318.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Thanks, too bad about the emacs, we have a lot of them too. Oh well. I will try them again though. Good to know that the slot loading ones work. Thanks for the advice on the hard drives. I might find myself with a large supply of neodymium magnets. :) -------------------------------------------------- Simon Fondrie-Teitler -------------------------------------------------- On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Barry Cisna wrote: > Simon, > > Just another +1. We had 26 Imacs that were the 'shiney' colored models > with the slot load cdroms. This is the easiest way I know to identify > them. These worked fine. The tray load Imacs I never could get to work. > I think the video I never could get to work on these? Same way with 24 > Emacs we had. Never could get video to work on these either. Those Emacs > were so heavy you about needed a forklift to set them in place anyway. > Yuck! This has been about 5 years ago,now so,maybe things work more > transparently on Macs in general on k12ltsp. The Imacs did work fine > once setup,with sound and all. We simply got rid of them due to the fact > the new superintendent wanted "all pcs to look the same"? As William > stated its worth your time to disconnect the HD's in the Imacs,as in a > room full of them it sounds like you are pulling into the parking lot of > LAX!!! > > Take Care, > Barry Cisna > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at portsmouth-college.ac.uk Sat Jul 4 20:03:53 2009 From: brian at portsmouth-college.ac.uk (Brian Chivers) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:03:53 +0100 Subject: [K12OSN] scripting guru's, quotas challenge In-Reply-To: <1246107641.11296.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246107641.11296.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A4FB5A9.3010303@portsmouth-college.ac.uk> Barry R Cisna wrote: > Hello All, > > Can someone think of a script that can be placed into the default home > folders for all users that would set their /home folder quota? In other > words so I do not have to manually enter each user's disk quota on the > file server. Yes, I Am lazy! > I may be missing something but the only way the group quota can be > enforced is for the cumulative members in a given group. It seems this > should be able to be more granular ,but I haven't figured it out if this > is possible? Trying to think of some way to make this 'scriptable' so > the process is less labor intensive Yeah! and less error prone. (that > would be Moui),,:) > > Take Care, > Barry Cisna > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > Do you users already exist ? What I've done is create a template "ideal_student" that I use the line /usr/sbin/edquota -p $idealquota $uname in the bulk user script to setup the quotas If you're users already exist it shouldn't be too hard read the existing users from a file & run the edquota command. Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The views expressed here are my own and not necessarily the views of Portsmouth College From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Jul 5 12:05:25 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:05:25 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] scripting guru's, quotas challenge Message-ID: <1246795525.1693.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Brain, Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately,I do not quite understand how you incorporated this? I assume you mean bulk adding via an ldap bulk add script? Can you give a process: 1.__ 2.__ 3.__ 4.__ This is what it should look like with an successful add. I am dumb I guess...:) Thanks, Barry From brian at portsmouth-college.ac.uk Sun Jul 5 14:29:57 2009 From: brian at portsmouth-college.ac.uk (Brian Chivers) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:29:57 +0100 Subject: [K12OSN] scripting guru's, quotas challenge In-Reply-To: <1246795525.1693.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246795525.1693.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A50B8E5.5090307@portsmouth-college.ac.uk> Barry Cisna wrote: > Hi Brain, > > Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately,I do not quite understand how you > incorporated this? I assume you mean bulk adding via an ldap bulk add > script? Can you give a process: > 1.__ > 2.__ > 3.__ > 4.__ This is what it should look like with an successful add. > I am dumb I guess...:) > > Thanks, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > No problem, I'm using an old bulk script,it version v 1.15 First I created a user & set the quota's I wanted called idealstudent then I added some lines to the script, right at the start I added this my $idealquota = "idealstudent"; Then at about line 223 I added the line below with the edquota bit in, I've included the whole section but it's the line my $rc2 that you're interested in. # Add the user my $rc = system("/usr/sbin/smbldap-useradd -a -m -g $gid -c \"$first $last\" -s $shell -d $home $uname"); if ($rc == 0) { # the user was successfully added my $rc2 = system("/usr/sbin/edquota -p $idealquota $uname"); print OUTPUT "$first,$last,$uname,$gid,$shell,$home,$password,$slip\n"; if (!defined($opt_i) and defined($opt_o)) { print STDOUT "$first,$last,$uname,$gid,$shell,$home,$password,$slip\n"; } I think the newer bulk add scripts have this in already as when I first did this way back when I send it to the list & the script guru's said they were going to add it so it might be worth looked through to see if it's there. Hope this help Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The views expressed here are my own and not necessarily the views of Portsmouth College From brian at portsmouth-college.ac.uk Sun Jul 5 14:34:49 2009 From: brian at portsmouth-college.ac.uk (Brian Chivers) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:34:49 +0100 Subject: [K12OSN] Lock down proxy settings and home page In-Reply-To: <4A19BF6F-748B-4321-9308-A56D98E499AE@compbizsolutions.com> References: <20090531160024.1C192619BA8@hormel.redhat.com> <4A19BF6F-748B-4321-9308-A56D98E499AE@compbizsolutions.com> Message-ID: <4A50BA09.3090005@portsmouth-college.ac.uk> Sorry might be too late on this one but thought I'd added this anyway :-) We use CCK Wizard (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2553) it allows you to create a plugin that sets loads of things like proxy & hoepage & then install it as a global plugin so it's installed for all users. Brian Michael Paric wrote: > The proxy, home page and other preferences are saved in the file: > > /home//.mozilla/firefox//prefs.js > > What we did at our high school was to create a master prefs.js file in > the /etc/skel/ directory that was only writable by root (but readable > by all). Then if we needed to update the preferences (change proxy > server, home page, etc.) we ran this simple shell script called > prefsupdate.sh as root: > > #/bin/bash > cd /home > for user in `ls -d *` > do > DEST=`ls /home/$user/.mozilla/firefox/*/prefs.js` > echo $DEST > cp --preserve=mode /etc/skel/prefs.js $DEST > done > > Automatically updated everyone's Firefox preferences (including proxy > settings) but since it was not writable by user, it effectively locked > them out of changing it. Not automatic when adding new users but > simple and quick enough to run when you did. > > Hope it helps! > -------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Paric > Computer Business Solutions > 707-317-6710 > mparic at compbizsolutions.com > www.compbizsolutions.com > > >> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:55:06 -0400 >> From: Rob Owens >> Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Lock down proxy settings and home page >> To: "Support list for open source software in schools." >> >> Message-ID: <20090531125506.GB7385 at aurora.owens.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> I know that you can lock down settings in the Epiphany browser, using >> gconf. Users will find it very similar to Firefox. Google for "gnome >> lockdown". >> >> -Rob >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:30:08PM -0700, murrah boswell wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Does anybody know how to lock down proxy and home page settings in >>> firefox through K12LTSP EL5? I need to be able to selectively lock down >>> some workstations that will be in a "student" group so they can only >>> access certain educational sites. Access to these sites will be >>> controlled through a SquidGuard whitelist. >>> >>> I can do this fine using the login script function of Samba and Firefox >>> running on windows based workstations, and can also lock down IE. >>> >>> Locking down Firefox on windows workstation requires that I rewrite >>> (through vbs scripts pushed over at login and executed) some config >>> files >>> under C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox and C:\Programs Files\Mozilla >>> Firefox\greprefs. Anybody know how to do get the same results through >>> K12LTSP EL5? >>> >>> I can force all thin client traffic through port 3128 with Squid >>> running >>> as a transparent proxy and eliminate the need to configure client proxy >>> settings in Firefox, but I would also like to have clients authenticate >>> so I can manipulate SquidGuard based on username. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Murrah Boswell >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The views expressed here are my own and not necessarily the views of Portsmouth College From odin at gnuskole.no Sun Jul 5 22:03:35 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:03:35 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Can't get the TIMEZONE= in lts.conf working Message-ID: <20090705220103.M31221@gnuskole.no> I've tried to set TIMEZONE=GMT+0100 or ETC Europe/Oslo or GMT+01 or GMT+1 og GMT+01:00 in lts.conf - but nothing seems to work. What am I doing wrong? Odin From odin at gnuskole.no Sun Jul 5 22:11:22 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:11:22 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! Message-ID: <20090705220344.M16750@gnuskole.no> In K12Linux F11 the client doesn't have a default GW - and in our network that means that no local apps can talk to the internet because it has to be routed in our main router to reach it - and since there is no default GW the 192.168.4.243-client can't reach the 192.168.255.2-firewall. If I manually add a default gw in the ltsp client's shell - everything works. Why doesn't the ltsp client get the default gw from the dhcp-server (which everything else in the network does)? Odin From brcisna at eazylivin.net Mon Jul 6 01:10:16 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:10:16 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! Message-ID: <1246842616.15367.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Oden, The TC will receive from the dhcp server whatever you have entered as the default gateway. The line that reads: option routers 1.2.3.4; You will want to enter your ACTUAL 'border' firewall ip here NOT the k12linux server. You would want the following option routers 192.168.255.2; then do an 'service dhcpd restart' then reboot a couple TC's and you should have internet access from the TC's. Let us know your progress. Take Care, Barry From toddobryan at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 01:11:15 2009 From: toddobryan at gmail.com (Todd O'Bryan) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:11:15 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! In-Reply-To: <20090705220344.M16750@gnuskole.no> References: <20090705220344.M16750@gnuskole.no> Message-ID: <904774730907051811s7e455737sb67a1cf73fd34366@mail.gmail.com> Remember that the DHCP server for the clients is the server itself (assuming you're using the 2 NIC standard setup). You can probably tell it to provide the default gateway if it's not in there already. On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Odin N?sen wrote: > In K12Linux F11 the client doesn't have a default GW - and in our network that means > that no local apps can talk to the internet because it has to be routed in our main > router to reach it - and since there is no default GW the 192.168.4.243-client can't > reach the 192.168.255.2-firewall. If I manually add a default gw in the ltsp client's > shell - everything works. Why doesn't the ltsp client get the default gw from the > dhcp-server (which everything else in the network does)? > > > Odin > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From odin at gnuskole.no Mon Jul 6 05:27:22 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:27:22 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! In-Reply-To: <1246842616.15367.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246842616.15367.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090706052341.M98730@gnuskole.no> > The TC will receive from the dhcp server whatever you have entered as > the default gateway. The line that reads: > option routers 1.2.3.4; No, it doesn't. From the dhcpd.conf: subnet 192.168.4.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; option broadcast-address 192.168.4.255; option routers 192.168.4.1; } And the TC doesn't get 192.168.4.1 as defalt GW. It did in K12Linux F9 and F10, but not in F11. I have a dhcpd-setup with 6 subnets and a HP2824-switch (192.168.x.1) that routes these 6 subnets. The dhcpd-server sits in the 192.168.1.x-subnet. Odin From odin at gnuskole.no Mon Jul 6 05:36:49 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:36:49 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! In-Reply-To: <20090706052341.M98730@gnuskole.no> References: <1246842616.15367.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090706052341.M98730@gnuskole.no> Message-ID: <20090706053234.M47357@gnuskole.no> > And the TC doesn't get 192.168.4.1 as defalt GW. It did in K12Linux F9 and F10, > but not in F11. I see that the PXE-boot does get the correct GW, so there is nothing wrong with the dhcpd.conf. I suspect that this is a bug (or something K12Linux didn't think about yet) because everything works until you try localapps and don't use the 2 NIC-solution. With the 2 NICs (and a NAT) this isn't a problem because the TS lies withing the subnet mask. Odin From daleif at imf.au.dk Mon Jul 6 08:39:28 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:39:28 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] some missing USB icons In-Reply-To: <4A4D1D82.2070503@imf.au.dk> References: <4A4D1D82.2070503@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <4A51B840.2050705@imf.au.dk> Lars Madsen wrote: > I know most of you on this list are using Fedora and k12. > > I'm trying to use RHEL 5.3 with Gnoem 2.16 as an application server for > LTSP 5. > > I'm using a client build on Ubunutu (it was easier at the time) > > I have most of it working, the only thing I cannot figure out is this: > > local devices are mounted just fine under /media/user/ and is fully > accessable. Floppy and CDROM appears on the Gnome desktop and in the > Places menu, but USB does not. > > This really bugs me, I can work around the problem by altering > ltspfsmounter, but I'd really like to know what it is that is stopping > USB sticks from appearing on the desktop when Floppy and CDROM appears > just fine. > > I know this is fixed in later versions because the Ubuntu based test > application server (that I use to build the client) work just fine. So I > cannot figure out whether this is caused by udev, gnome-vfs or something > different. > > any ideas? > > (and could someone at redhat RHEL please update Gnome a more modern > version) > > > /daleif > anyone? -- /daleif From k12ltsp at rwcinc.net Mon Jul 6 15:13:24 2009 From: k12ltsp at rwcinc.net (Patrick Fleming) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:13:24 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! In-Reply-To: <20090706052341.M98730@gnuskole.no> References: <1246842616.15367.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090706052341.M98730@gnuskole.no> Message-ID: <4A521494.6030609@rwcinc.net> Odin N?sen wrote: >> The TC will receive from the dhcp server whatever you have entered as >> the default gateway. The line that reads: >> option routers 1.2.3.4; > > No, it doesn't. From the dhcpd.conf: > > subnet 192.168.4.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > option broadcast-address 192.168.4.255; > option routers 192.168.4.1; > } > > And the TC doesn't get 192.168.4.1 as defalt GW. It did in K12Linux F9 and F10, but not > in F11. > > I have a dhcpd-setup with 6 subnets and a HP2824-switch (192.168.x.1) that routes these > 6 subnets. The dhcpd-server sits in the 192.168.1.x-subnet. Odin, Which machines are you trying to get pointed to the internet? eg 192.168.1.x. Each subnet needs to know its own next hop gateway. >From what you have above I would expect that a machine getting 192.168.4.x would point to 192.168.4.1 as the gateway. Is this not what's happening? What IP is the TC getting with this configuration? My office setup is: TCs get 192.168.1.x. The server is 192.168.1.254, their gateway is 192.168.1.15 (the internal NIC of the firewall box) > > Odin > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From microman at cmosnetworks.com Mon Jul 6 16:08:09 2009 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Terrell_Prud=E9_Jr=2E=22?=) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:08:09 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] some missing USB icons In-Reply-To: <4A51B840.2050705@imf.au.dk> References: <4A4D1D82.2070503@imf.au.dk> <4A51B840.2050705@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <4A522169.6070900@cmosnetworks.com> Lars Madsen wrote: > Lars Madsen wrote: >> >> (and could someone at redhat RHEL please update Gnome a more modern >> version) >> >> >> /daleif >> > > anyone? > The version of GNOME that comes with any given RHEL release is the version that will be with it for its entire life cycle. That's actually the point of RHEL--stability and certainty over "bleeding edge bells and whistles". If you want that stuff, you might indeed want to try out the latest Fedora. --TP From daleif at imf.au.dk Mon Jul 6 16:15:04 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:15:04 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] some missing USB icons In-Reply-To: <4A522169.6070900@cmosnetworks.com> References: <4A4D1D82.2070503@imf.au.dk> <4A51B840.2050705@imf.au.dk> <4A522169.6070900@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: <4A522308.8020508@imf.au.dk> Terrell Prud? Jr. wrote: > Lars Madsen wrote: >> Lars Madsen wrote: >>> >>> (and could someone at redhat RHEL please update Gnome a more modern >>> version) >>> >>> >>> /daleif >>> >> >> anyone? >> > > The version of GNOME that comes with any given RHEL release is the > version that will be with it for its entire life cycle. That's actually > the point of RHEL--stability and certainty over "bleeding edge bells and > whistles". If you want that stuff, you might indeed want to try out the > latest Fedora. > > --TP > Fedora is not an option I'd just like to know why USB is broken here, just to see if it is something I can fix my self. -- /daleif From brcisna at eazylivin.net Mon Jul 6 21:04:44 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:04:44 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! Message-ID: <1246914284.7461.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Odin, Without getting over geeky on something like this,try doing a traceroute from the TC to your border firewall/router,and see what IP numbers you are seeing. Say your border firewall is ,192.168.4.1. >From your booted up TC,do. 'traceroute 192.168.4.1 ' see what you get for the route. Are you using managed switches in between the K12linux server and your border firewall by chance? Maybe some wonkyness here if this is the case. I have never done a one nic install of K12ltsp since its inception ,so i'm not sure what may be wonky on FC11? Let us know your findings. Take Care, Barry From odin at gnuskole.no Tue Jul 7 09:57:09 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:57:09 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! In-Reply-To: <1246914284.7461.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1246914284.7461.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090706212653.M73685@gnuskole.no> It seems that I need to describe my problem with more details. I'm no beginner to LTSP - I've installed every version of K12LTSP since 2002 and hacked my way to a system with a central dhcp-server, a dedicated firewall, 6 subnets, 3 fileservers, dedicated backupserver and 380 thin clients etc. Today I'm running all the TS's on K12Linux F11 x86_64 (with i386 TCs). My problem is that alle the TCs are missing a default GW. "route" on a TC (with IP 10.0.4.63) give this output: bash-4.0# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.0.4.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 I can't ping anything that's not in the 10.0.4.0/24-network - simply because the TC doesn't know where to send the ping-packet. If I add a default GW (route add default gw 10.0.4.1), then everything works (of course). When the TC boots the PXE-client get all the correct information from the dhcp-server (IP, netmask, default gw...) but the TC don't set up a default gw when it sets up a network connection. It did in F9 and F10, but not in F11. This isn't a problem until I try to run localapps that need to talk to network outside the 10.0.4.0/24-network. The single NIC TS (10.0.4.10) is in the same subnet as the TC (10.0.4.63), so everything works when I run the TC as a thin client. But, Firefox doesn't work as a localapp in my setup, because it doesn't reach the firewall at 10.0.255.1 because the TC doesn't know that network traffic to 10.0.255.1 should be sendt to 10.0.4.1 (the switch that routes/gw all the subnets). Can someone plz fix this in the TC for F11? Odin From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Tue Jul 7 12:20:13 2009 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:20:13 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! Message-ID: <1246969213.5594.12.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Odin, >From what you had listed in your last post it appears the TC is , in fact getting the correct 'gw/route'. bash-4.0# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.0.4.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 The 'Destination 10.0.4.0' bit shows this. This is evidently what you have entered as the default router,in your dhcp server. I don't know why this worked correctly for you in previous,,F9 F10? The dhcp server can not provide any more routing beyond this. Have you tried doing a static route on the k12 server to your firewall router. AKA: route 10.0.255.1 -(from 10.0.4.0), ( on top of the TC's route to the k12 server itself)? It would be nothing more than a guess but possibly a mild update in the kernel on FC11 is not playing well with your firewall router. Possibly being your firewall router is a conical type router? If you can not ping the actual firewall router/internet access router either your k12 server OR the firewall router needs a static route to connect each other. Take Care, Barry From odin at gnuskole.no Tue Jul 7 12:37:38 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:37:38 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! In-Reply-To: <1246969213.5594.12.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> References: <1246969213.5594.12.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Message-ID: <20090707122650.M34615@gnuskole.no> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:20:13 -0500, Barry Cisna wrote > Odin, > > >From what you had listed in your last post it appears the TC is , in > fact getting the correct 'gw/route'. > bash-4.0# route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface > 10.0.4.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 > The 'Destination 10.0.4.0' bit shows this. This is evidently what you have > entered as the default router,in your dhcp server. I don't know why this But, as I said, I add a default gw in the TC everything works: bash-4.0# route add default gw 10.0.4.1 bash-4.0# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.0.4.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 default 10.0.4.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 > worked correctly for you in previous,,F9 F10? The dhcp server can not provide > any more routing beyond this. Have you tried doing a static route on the k12 > server to your firewall router. AKA: route 10.0.255.1 -(from 10.0.4.0), ( on My servers find the firewall without problem (because they have a default gw) - so I don't need a static route directly to the firewall (it had anyway needed to go through the switch that routes the traffic between the subnets). > with your firewall router. Possibly being your firewall router is a > conical type router? My "router" is a HP ProCurve 2824 that has routing between the 6 subnets. > If you can not ping the actual firewall router/internet access router > either your k12 server OR the firewall router needs a static route to > connect each other. >From the server I can ping everything, but on the thin client I can only ping machines that lies within the netmask (10.0.4.0/24). Odin From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Tue Jul 7 12:57:43 2009 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:57:43 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! Message-ID: <1246971463.5990.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Odin, Sorry about that! My mistake! Your TC was NOT getting a default gateway. You did not have the actual "UG" entry in your 'route' command until after you manually entered the correct route. Sorry about that. Do the following on your k12 server: Drill down to /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles/default/ifcfg-eth0 file, See if you have the following entry at the top of this file: GATEWAY=10.0.4.1 If this is not listed add it to the top of this file. Now do an 'service network restart' Reboot a couple TC's as see if you have internet now? You should see at the TC your actual gateway entry as well, to verify this via the route command. If you now have internet, reboot the server one time to make sure the entry stayed after a server reboot. It should. Let us know. From odin at gnuskole.no Tue Jul 7 14:28:01 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:28:01 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! In-Reply-To: <1246971463.5990.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> References: <1246971463.5990.9.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Message-ID: <20090707142159.M90424@gnuskole.no> > Do the following on your k12 server: > Drill down to /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles/default/ifcfg-eth0 This catalog is empty (I'm using NetworkManager), but in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 the GATEWAY=10.0.4.1 is present (but not at the top of the file). But... it's now at the top :-) > Now do an 'service network restart' Done. > Reboot a couple TC's as see if you have internet now? No - nothing is changed. route is the same at the TC. Maybe we're on to something here. I have not used NetworkManager before. I've always disabled NetworkManager and used networking. I'll have to try that. Odin From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Tue Jul 7 15:45:59 2009 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:45:59 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] The ltsp-client doesn't have a default gateway! Message-ID: <1246981559.6955.2.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Odin, Disable NetworkManager. That's your prob... get back to the basics bro,,,,:) then do a couple of ' service network restart' then do your 'route' command on the server. see if you have the 10.0.4.1 with the UG,,,AKA: gateway listing? Take Care Barry From dahopkins429 at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:27:12 2009 From: dahopkins429 at gmail.com (David Hopkins) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:27:12 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Google Chrome OS Message-ID: With the announcement of Google Chrome OS, (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html ) I'm curious about any thoughts of how this might work in a thin client environment? Perhaps it would be useful in a drbl-type scenario? Or the technology used in Chrome OS could help advance LTSP in general? Is this the manifestation of the 'network is the OS' from Ellison (I think) way back when? Sincerely, Dave Hopkins From monteslu at cox.net Wed Jul 8 14:32:17 2009 From: monteslu at cox.net (Luis Montes) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:32:17 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: Google Chrome OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A54ADF1.8030402@cox.net> I'd be happy if they just had enough pull to get redhat and ubuntu to start using a single package format. It wouldn't hurt if they could stop the madness of a new audio system being built every few months either. Funny that the name for their Linux-based OS will be the Chrome OS, when their Chrome web browser is still windows only right now. David Hopkins wrote: > With the announcement of Google Chrome OS, > (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html > ) I'm curious about any thoughts of how this might work in a thin > client environment? Perhaps it would be useful in a drbl-type > scenario? Or the technology used in Chrome OS could help advance LTSP > in general? Is this the manifestation of the 'network is the OS' from > Ellison (I think) way back when? > > Sincerely, > Dave Hopkins > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From begocan at ensieta.fr Wed Jul 8 14:37:59 2009 From: begocan at ensieta.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_BEGOC?=) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:37:59 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] What parameters for NIC hp 6730B Message-ID: HI, I test the hp 6730b as client k12ltsp the last message is that the network card is not detected and i complete option-129 with parameters the network card is : Broadcom Corporation Netlink BCM5787M , a gigabit PCI Express. I have tested differents parameters, below, in my dhcpd congiguration. (With a classix pc with card network : 3c509, detection is automatic) host ws004 { hardware ethernet 00:a4:81:a6:75:4e; fixed-address 192.168.0.4; # kernels are specified in /tftpboot/lts/boot/pxe/pxelinux.cfg/ filename "/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0"; option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; # option option-129 "NIC=ne"; option option-129 "NIC=broadcom"; # option option-129 "NIC=netlink bcm5787m"; # option option-129 "NIC=pci"; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ltsp at dunc-it.com Wed Jul 8 14:57:50 2009 From: ltsp at dunc-it.com (C. Duncan Hudson) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:57:50 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Local i386 apps on an X86_64 server? Message-ID: <4A54B3EE.4080601@dunc-it.com> I have LTSP 5 installed on an existing Fedora 10 server - the server is an X86_64 machine, and the clients are all i386. Everything is working fine, but I'd like to run local apps, but I'm having no luck. I've rebuilt the image, chrooted into /opt/ltsp/i386. But when I try to yum install just about anything I get conflicts between the installed x86_64 packages and the corresponding i386 packages. Is there an easy way to get around this? Thanks, Dunc From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Wed Jul 8 15:57:15 2009 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:57:15 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Local i386 apps on an X86_64 server? In-Reply-To: <4A54B3EE.4080601@dunc-it.com> References: <4A54B3EE.4080601@dunc-it.com> Message-ID: <994441ae0907080857o2eabe8edvd1cf1642e109663e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:57 AM, C. Duncan Hudson wrote: > I have LTSP 5 installed on an existing Fedora 10 server - the server is an > X86_64 machine, and the clients are all i386. ?Everything is working fine, > but I'd like to run local apps, but I'm having no luck. ?I've rebuilt the > image, chrooted into /opt/ltsp/i386. ?But when I try to yum install just > about anything I get conflicts between the installed x86_64 packages and the > corresponding i386 packages. ?Is there an easy way to get around this? Did you "setarch i386" when you chroot into /opt/ltsp/i386? I.e.: setarch i386 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 yum install foo -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 > ?Thanks, > > Dunc > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From ltsp at dunc-it.com Wed Jul 8 17:57:50 2009 From: ltsp at dunc-it.com (C. Duncan Hudson) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:57:50 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Local i386 apps on an X86_64 server? In-Reply-To: <994441ae0907080857o2eabe8edvd1cf1642e109663e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A54B3EE.4080601@dunc-it.com> <994441ae0907080857o2eabe8edvd1cf1642e109663e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A54DE1E.4090607@dunc-it.com> Dan Young wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:57 AM, C. Duncan Hudson wrote: > >> I have LTSP 5 installed on an existing Fedora 10 server - the server is an >> X86_64 machine, and the clients are all i386. Everything is working fine, >> but I'd like to run local apps, but I'm having no luck. I've rebuilt the >> image, chrooted into /opt/ltsp/i386. But when I try to yum install just >> about anything I get conflicts between the installed x86_64 packages and the >> corresponding i386 packages. Is there an easy way to get around this? >> > > Did you "setarch i386" when you chroot into /opt/ltsp/i386? I.e.: > > setarch i386 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 > yum install foo > No, I didn't realize that I had to do that - thanks. So now, after doing the setarch, I no longer get the complaining about the 64 bit packages. But I also find no packages are available. Is this simply a matter of adding the 386 repository to my yum.repos.d directory? Thanks again, Duncan From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Wed Jul 8 19:14:46 2009 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:14:46 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Local i386 apps on an X86_64 server? In-Reply-To: <4A54DE1E.4090607@dunc-it.com> References: <4A54B3EE.4080601@dunc-it.com> <994441ae0907080857o2eabe8edvd1cf1642e109663e@mail.gmail.com> <4A54DE1E.4090607@dunc-it.com> Message-ID: <994441ae0907081214r3735ed6eod204c65e5372ced0@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, C. Duncan Hudson wrote: > Dan Young wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:57 AM, C. Duncan Hudson wrote: >> >>> >>> I have LTSP 5 installed on an existing Fedora 10 server - the server is >>> an >>> X86_64 machine, and the clients are all i386. ?Everything is working >>> fine, >>> but I'd like to run local apps, but I'm having no luck. ?I've rebuilt the >>> image, chrooted into /opt/ltsp/i386. ?But when I try to yum install just >>> about anything I get conflicts between the installed x86_64 packages and >>> the >>> corresponding i386 packages. ?Is there an easy way to get around this? >>> >> >> Did you "setarch i386" when you chroot into /opt/ltsp/i386? I.e.: >> >> setarch i386 chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 >> yum install foo >> > > No, I didn't realize that I had to do that - thanks. ?So now, after > doing the setarch, I no longer get the complaining about the 64 bit > packages. ?But I also find no packages are available. ?Is this simply a > matter of adding the 386 repository to my yum.repos.d directory? ?Thanks > again, At some point in the past, you also had to "mount /proc" when you jump into the chroot. May want to try that. You'll probably want to confirm that networking is functioning on the terminal. Can you "host www.google.com", etc? Here's someone's walkthrough of installing apps into the chroot: http://www.redhat.com/archives/k12osn/2009-April/msg00042.html -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From brcisna at eazylivin.net Wed Jul 8 21:32:42 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:32:42 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] What parameters for NIC hp 6730B Message-ID: <1247088762.15967.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Andre, The broadcom chipsets are troublesome at best on a k12ltsp setting. They can be made to work, (usually) with doing some custom building of the initrd,voodoo stuff. There are a few different variants of the broadcom chipset in regards to tying in with the mobo bios as well that adds to the fun! For you , I think this will be more trouble and time consuming than it is worth. I would disable the onboard nic,and find or buy you a realtek8139 pci nic,($4-USD)pop it in this machine and you will have a working TC in no time. 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It would be primo if these apps are known to conform to >California educational requirements. > From brcisna at eazylivin.net Thu Jul 9 01:42:07 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:42:07 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) Message-ID: <1247103727.21743.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Andre, On the server in a terminal do an: service iptables stop ,,,and see if the client will boot alright now. Barry From einfeldt at gmail.com Thu Jul 9 03:28:26 2009 From: einfeldt at gmail.com (Christian Einfeldt) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:28:26 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] FOSS desktop apps recommended for teaching middle school In-Reply-To: References: <4b5781040906291740n49f28e7fqefd21286e23a36aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4b5781040907082028q4f4d3899wf168745797d699e1@mail.gmail.com> hi, On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sharon Betts wrote: > How about web apps - > Google apps for education, Moodle, wikispaces, sketchup, google earth, > celestia is good for science Thx for these suggestions! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boushara at louisiana.k12.mo.us Thu Jul 9 04:14:49 2009 From: boushara at louisiana.k12.mo.us (Alan Boushard) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:14:49 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ce8eeb40907082114v75dba4c1s1468c5c3a4db7532@mail.gmail.com> I have a whole lab of those running. In the c50s make sure you go into the bios and enable the boot from LAN option. If you have done that, I will report back tomorrow on the configuration of my c50s. I know for sure I did not have to do anything special to my server. Alan Boushard Technology Director Louisiana R-II School District Louisiana, MO On 7/8/09, Andr? BEGOC wrote: > HI, > > I have a thin client Neoware : c50 (G150). > It can, only, succeed its IP address, from the server on K12Linux LTSP > (Cent OS 5.3), but no kernel is transferred after ?????. > Help. > Thank you > -- Sent from my mobile device From begocan at ensieta.fr Thu Jul 9 05:28:01 2009 From: begocan at ensieta.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_BEGOC?=) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 07:28:01 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) In-Reply-To: <3ce8eeb40907082114v75dba4c1s1468c5c3a4db7532@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ce8eeb40907082114v75dba4c1s1468c5c3a4db7532@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: my iptables is off and i have also the boot from LAN on my c50. If you can send me your config, it's very very well thank you Alan Boushard Envoy? par : k12osn-bounces at redhat.com 09/07/2009 06:14 Veuillez r?pondre ? "Support list for open source software in schools." A "Support list for open source software in schools." cc Objet Re: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) I have a whole lab of those running. In the c50s make sure you go into the bios and enable the boot from LAN option. If you have done that, I will report back tomorrow on the configuration of my c50s. I know for sure I did not have to do anything special to my server. Alan Boushard Technology Director Louisiana R-II School District Louisiana, MO On 7/8/09, Andr? BEGOC wrote: > HI, > > I have a thin client Neoware : c50 (G150). > It can, only, succeed its IP address, from the server on K12Linux LTSP > (Cent OS 5.3), but no kernel is transferred after ?????. > Help. > Thank you > -- Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BEGOC wrote: > HI, > > I test the hp 6730b as client k12ltsp > > the last message is that the network card is not detected and i complete > option-129 with parameters > > the network card is : Broadcom Corporation Netlink BCM5787M , a gigabit > PCI Express. > > I have tested differents parameters, below, in my dhcpd congiguration. > > (With a classix pc with card network : 3c509, detection is automatic) > > > host ws004 { > hardware ethernet 00:a4:81:a6:75:4e; > fixed-address 192.168.0.4; > # kernels are specified in /tftpboot/lts/boot/pxe/pxelinux.cfg/ > filename "/lts/pxe/pxelinux.0"; > option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; > # option option-129 "NIC=ne"; > option option-129 "NIC=broadcom"; > > # option option-129 "NIC=netlink bcm5787m"; > > # option option-129 "NIC=pci"; > The module is probably the tg3 module - Barry already replied that it's a problematic card and I wholeheartedly agree. I recently gave up trying to get a new Dell working with this NIC. If you really want to try you will need to modify the file in /tftpboot/lts/pxe/pxelinux.cfg that corresponds to either the MAC or IP of this machine. The file that will correspond to the IP above is: C0A80004. An example of my file for a machine with this NIC: prompt 0 label linux kernel vmlinuz.ltsp append root=/dev/ram0 rw initrd=initramfs.gz NIC=tg3 And in lts.conf: [00:1E:C9:36:5D:F5] MODULE_01 = tg3 This uses the MAC address of the machine, but you can use the host name or IP as well. And if none of these steps/entries work then get the card that Barry recommends. It will save you hours/days/weeks of frustration. :) Patrick From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Thu Jul 9 17:22:00 2009 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:22:00 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) Message-ID: <1247160120.23042.7.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Andre, On the server as root in a terminal type the following; tail -f /var/log/messages ,,, now try booting one of the c50 TC's. copy/paste the output in the terminal to the list here. This may reveal what is causing your TC's not to boot. Take Care, Barry Cisna From begocan at ensieta.fr Thu Jul 9 20:22:24 2009 From: begocan at ensieta.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_BEGOC?=) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:22:24 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) In-Reply-To: <1247160120.23042.7.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> References: <1247160120.23042.7.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Message-ID: As I said it, there is only the attribution of the IP address (of c50) in /var/log/messages on the server K12LTSP : Jul 9 22:04:38 k2 dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:e0:c5:64:b9:10 via eth0 Jul 9 22:04:38 k2 dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.3 to 00:e0:c5:64:b9:10 via eth0 Jul 9 22:04:38 k2 dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:e0:c5:64:b9:10 via eth0 Jul 9 22:04:38 k2 dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.3 to 00:e0:c5:64:b9:10 via eth0 Jul 9 22:04:38 k2 dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.254) from 00:e0:c5:64:b9:10 via eth0 Jul 9 22:04:38 k2 dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.3 to 00:e0:c5:64:b9:10 via eth0 It's all. NB: On the C50, i can have the logging banner by : "X -query server.ltsp :1" in terminal of c50 after kill, on the c50, the process 949, below 936 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S40xserver start 948 ? S 0:00 initlog -q -c /usr/X11R6/bin/xserverd 949 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/xserverd Thank you ------------------------------------------------- Andr? B?goc after Service Informatique ENSIETA (www.ensieta.fr) 29806 - Brest Cedex 09 begocan at ensieta.fr T?l : 02 98 34 88 83 ------------------------------------------------ Barry Cisna Envoy? par : k12osn-bounces at redhat.com 09/07/2009 19:22 Veuillez r?pondre ? "Support list for open source software in schools." A K12LTSP List Archives cc Objet Re: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) Andre, On the server as root in a terminal type the following; tail -f /var/log/messages ,,, now try booting one of the c50 TC's. copy/paste the output in the terminal to the list here. This may reveal what is causing your TC's not to boot. Take Care, Barry Cisna _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brcisna at eazylivin.net Fri Jul 10 00:17:25 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:17:25 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) Message-ID: <1247185045.5915.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Andre, Have you been able to get any TC's at all to boot from this k12ltsp server since you set it up? In other words,,do you have some other TC's you can try that are not the Neoware c50's? Also I think I understand you right. This is a default install of K12ltsp Centos 5? Are you able to get internet access from the server console? Let us know your progress. Take Care, Barry Cisna From bmullan at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 02:35:24 2009 From: bmullan at yahoo.com (brian mullan) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [K12OSN] FOSS desktop apps recommended for teaching - middle school Message-ID: <550137.49820.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you are not already familiar ... check out SourceForge.net and their Education section which has about 12,000 educational apps in it. http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=71 also you might want to check out: National Repository for Online Course (NROC) and their HippoCampus site: http://www.hippocampus.org as well as another great online Educational site at Curriki: http://www.curriki.org Its sad that more educators don't know about NROC/HippoCampus and Curriki as both have strong funding by various foundations etc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From begocan at ensieta.fr Sat Jul 11 15:35:15 2009 From: begocan at ensieta.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_BEGOC?=) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:35:15 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) In-Reply-To: <1247185045.5915.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247185045.5915.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi Barry, No i have one TC50 (not TC50s), but another classic pc work very well with my K12LTSP server. Therefore, I don't think that the server is badly configured. Can you send me your /writable/reg.ini and your /writable/sys/system.ini, if possible, on your thin TC50 ? Thank you ------------------------------------------------- Andr? B?goc Service Informatique ENSIETA (www.ensieta.fr) 29806 - Brest Cedex 09 begocan at ensieta.fr T?l : 02 98 34 88 83 ------------------------------------------------ Barry Cisna Envoy? par : k12osn-bounces at redhat.com 10/07/2009 02:17 Veuillez r?pondre ? "Support list for open source software in schools." A K12LTSP cc Objet Re: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) Andre, Have you been able to get any TC's at all to boot from this k12ltsp server since you set it up? In other words,,do you have some other TC's you can try that are not the Neoware c50's? Also I think I understand you right. This is a default install of K12ltsp Centos 5? Are you able to get internet access from the server console? Let us know your progress. Take Care, Barry Cisna _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boushara at louisiana.k12.mo.us Mon Jul 13 18:52:50 2009 From: boushara at louisiana.k12.mo.us (Alan Boushard) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:52:50 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) In-Reply-To: References: <1247185045.5915.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3ce8eeb40907131152k5225d4ecs18a43f092e0a7135@mail.gmail.com> Could it be a bad TC50? I have that exact same model (working on getting the config files, my server is in pieces at the moment) and they worked right out of the box like a charm. Does it start the PXE boot process and then get an IP? It baffles me that it is not working. Alan Boushard Louisiana R-II School District Louisiana, MO On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Andr? BEGOC wrote: > Hi Barry, > No i have one TC50 (not TC50s), but another classic pc work very well with > my K12LTSP server. > Therefore, I don't think that the server is badly configured. > > Can you send me your /writable/reg.ini and your /writable/sys/system.ini, > if possible, on your thin TC50 ? > Thank you > > ------------------------------------------------- > Andr? B?goc > Service Informatique > ENSIETA (www.ensieta.fr) > 29806 - Brest Cedex 09 > begocan at ensieta.fr > T?l : 02 98 34 88 83 > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > *Barry Cisna * > Envoy? par : k12osn-bounces at redhat.com > > 10/07/2009 02:17 > Veuillez r?pondre ? > "Support list for open source software in schools." > > A > K12LTSP > cc > Objet > Re: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) > > > > > Andre, > > Have you been able to get any TC's at all to boot from this k12ltsp > server since you set it up? In other words,,do you have some other TC's > you can try that are not the Neoware c50's? > Also I think I understand you right. This is a default install of > K12ltsp Centos 5? Are you able to get internet access from the server > console? > Let us know your progress. > > Take Care, > Barry Cisna > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From begocan at ensieta.fr Wed Jul 15 21:23:50 2009 From: begocan at ensieta.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_BEGOC?=) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:23:50 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] How config language login client K12LTSP ? In-Reply-To: <1247185045.5915.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1247185045.5915.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Thank you Barry, My TC50 is OK, I have found the other bios menu (Shift F10) which was unconfigured. Now, with PXE and intl 19, it's OK. But i have a last question. How config language for the keyboard (which is french) at the logging banner on the c50. I have one line (the French), only, in /etc/gdm/local.alias, but when i'm logging it's always characters of US keyboard (A < Q, W < Z ....) Can you help me ? ...the last ------------------------------------------------- Andr? B?goc Service Informatique ENSIETA (www.ensieta.fr) 29806 - Brest Cedex 09 begocan at ensieta.fr T?l : 02 98 34 88 83 ------------------------------------------------ Barry Cisna Envoy? par : k12osn-bounces at redhat.com 10/07/2009 02:17 Veuillez r?pondre ? "Support list for open source software in schools." A K12LTSP cc Objet Re: [K12OSN] Thin client Neoware c50 (G150) and K12 Linux 5 (CentOS) Andre, Have you been able to get any TC's at all to boot from this k12ltsp server since you set it up? In other words,,do you have some other TC's you can try that are not the Neoware c50's? Also I think I understand you right. This is a default install of K12ltsp Centos 5? Are you able to get internet access from the server console? Let us know your progress. Take Care, Barry Cisna _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matrimble at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 12:09:47 2009 From: matrimble at gmail.com (Mark Trimble) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:09:47 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin Client or Diskless Workstation? Message-ID: <17b895960907200509h4ec2a707k5b42dc23ad20254a@mail.gmail.com> Just wondering if the client option(s) provided by K12LTSP and K12Linux are Thin Clients (centralized processing with the server's CPU and RAM used to run applications) or Diskless Workstations (distributed processing with the client's CPU and RAM used to run applications). My client machines will need to be able to run high definition, atsc video using mythtv and I believe a Diskless Workstation architecture may be the only pratical option for netbooted clients. Regards, Mark From jthomas at bittware.com Mon Jul 20 12:22:38 2009 From: jthomas at bittware.com (j.w. thomas) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:22:38 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] New Monitors Message-ID: <4A64618E.5010706@bittware.com> I just got a batch of new LCD monitors for my thin clients to replace the old CRT's. These monitors have a 16:9 aspect ratio, but X doesn't seem to notice that. It continues to display as 1024x768. The monitor compensates by stretching the display. I'm running the Centos-based EL5-64. Is there a way to force an adjustment? I suppose it's also quite possible that my TC's video can't deal with 16:9, but I don't recall offhand what model they are (vintage Dell though, I think in the GX series and at least a decade old). I'll check that as soon as I can if it makes a difference. Thanks for any help! -- Jim Thomas Principal Applications Engineer Bittware, Inc jthomas at bittware.com http://www.bittware.com (603) 226-0404 x536 When you have little data, you have lots of freedom. - Olafur Ingolfssonr From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Mon Jul 20 12:48:40 2009 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:48:40 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin Client or Diskless Workstation? Message-ID: <1248094120.28196.6.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Hi Mark, Video can be done on most any TC with a decent amount of installed ram (256mb) but you'll never have "high end" video work reliably on a TC.Albeit across the LAN to several TC's.I have found the key thing doing video,even on high end stand alone ' latest greatest' PC's are to tame down the video broadcast to a pc/network friendly figure.Resolution,FPM's etc. Don't expect to get HDTV quality video,on any pc,otherwise you are expecting too much,,:) Take Care, Barry Cisna From sebastian at when.com Mon Jul 20 15:25:14 2009 From: sebastian at when.com (Sebastian Dziallas) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:25:14 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Test the POSSE Education Fedora Remix today! Message-ID: <4A648C5A.7070007@when.com> === Test the POSSE Education Fedora Remix today! === Have you ever wanted to contribute - or get others to contribute - to an open source education project, but never found the time to set up and get started? We've got a ready-to-go contributors' (not just code!) environment for you. The Fedora Education SIG (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Education_SIG) announces today in cooperation with POSSE (http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_2009), a Red Hat sponsored summer program to introduce professors to the open source way of development, the release of the POSSE Education remix. The remix will be deployed immediately to the professors at POSSE and has been developed with the purpose of creating a ready-to-go development environment for contributing to educational projects inside, but also outside of the Fedora ecosystem in mind. It contains development environments, tools, documentation, and getting-started resources for contributing to a number of projects including Fedora, Mozilla, Sugar Labs and KDE Education and can be used by individuals or by teachers, students, and classrooms that want to contribute to open source projects as part of their course effort. The download is directly available, together with the SHA-1 checksum, over HTTP from here: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/remixes/POSSE/POSSE-Education-1.iso 391a0170e09e68142cbe2c95b62b2b0c6fa628d5 POSSE-Education-1.iso Being based on the latest Fedora release, this remix provides users with a stable environment with supplemental features, such as: * an easy starting point into educational open source projects by providing pre-selected bookmarks and related IRC channels * the Sugar Platform (http://www.sugarlabs.org), as seen on the OLPC - as of 2009/07/15, all required dependencies for building sugar-jhbuild, a way of pulling and running the latest sugar bits, are included * a number of educational applications, such as the KDE Education Packages (http://edu.kde.org) or software for numerical operations - a Moodle session (http://www.moodle.org) to showcase an open source learning management system * a whole development environment including gcc, python and more, as well as Fedora's packaging tools - the Eclipse environment with plugins for Python and RPM, but also LaTeX and documentation purposes A getting started guide is also available and contains instructions for various applications and communities: https://fedorahosted.org/education/wiki/GetStarted If you are interested in getting in touch with the developers, other users or would just like to submit feedback, please join our mailing list here: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list. If you are interested in using this for your own development or in your classroom, or have an open source education project you'd like to see included in the next version, please let us know and we'll get you started. If you report bugs in bugzilla, please make sure to make them depend on our tracker: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=EducationTracker Thanks, Sebastian Dziallas for the Education SIG From robark at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 16:45:46 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:45:46 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin Client or Diskless Workstation? In-Reply-To: <17b895960907200509h4ec2a707k5b42dc23ad20254a@mail.gmail.com> References: <17b895960907200509h4ec2a707k5b42dc23ad20254a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Mark Trimble wrote: ... > applications). My client machines will need to be able to run high > definition, atsc video using mythtv and I believe a Diskless > Workstation architecture may be the only pratical option for netbooted > clients. > I would agree with you. Take a look at DRBL. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From noreply at netlogmail.com Mon Jul 20 20:01:36 2009 From: noreply at netlogmail.com (Iztok Osredkar) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:01:36 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] =?iso-8859-2?q?Obi=B9=E8i_moj_profil_na_Netlogu?= Message-ID: <200907202001.n6KK1ar0015169@mx1.redhat.com> Hej, Ustvaril/a sem profil na Netlogu s svojimi slikami, video posnetki, blogi in dogodki in ?elim te dodati kot prijatelja, da bo? lahko vse to videl/a. Najprej se mora? registrirati na Netlogu! Ko se vpi?e?, lahko ustvari? svoj profil. Poglej: http://sl.netlog.com/go/mailurl/type=invite_1&mailid=43325222&id=1&url=-L2dvL3JlZ2lzdGVyL2lkPTczNjAwNzQzMyZpPXQ5MQ__ Pozdrav, Iztok ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ne ?eli? ve? prejemati povabil od svojih prijateljev? http://sl.netlog.com/go/mailurl/type=invite_1&mailid=43325222&id=2&url=-L2dvL25vbWFpbHMvaW52aXRlL2VtYWlsPS1TekV5VDFOT1FISmxaR2hoZEM1amIyMF8mY29kZT0xMTcwMzg2MSZpZD03MzYwMDc0MzMmaT10OTI_ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomislav.skunca at nacional.hr Tue Jul 21 13:29:43 2009 From: tomislav.skunca at nacional.hr (=?windows-1252?Q?Tomislav_=8Akunca?=) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:29:43 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] New Monitors In-Reply-To: <4A64618E.5010706@bittware.com> References: <4A64618E.5010706@bittware.com> Message-ID: <4A65C2C7.6000401@nacional.hr> On 7/20/09 2:22 PM, j.w. thomas wrote: > I just got a batch of new LCD monitors for my thin clients to replace > the old CRT's. These monitors have a 16:9 aspect ratio, but X doesn't > seem to notice that. It continues to display as 1024x768. The monitor > compensates by stretching the display. > > I'm running the Centos-based EL5-64. Is there a way to force an > adjustment? I suppose it's also quite possible that my TC's video can't > deal with 16:9, but I don't recall offhand what model they are (vintage > Dell though, I think in the GX series and at least a decade old). I'll > check that as soon as I can if it makes a difference. > > Thanks for any help! > You can force a client to load a custom xorg.conf file which specifies the resolutions you need. But before you do that, have you tried changing the resolution through menus in gnome? You might only need to change the screen resolution once for every user with the new monitor. The option i mentioned is in lts.conf: XF86CONFIG_FILE - location of the xorg.conf file X_MODE_0 - this option might also work (try setting it to 1680x1050) -- Tomislav ?kunca IS/IT NCL Media Grupa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tomislav_skunca.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 361 bytes Desc: not available URL: From k12ltsp at hermon.net Tue Jul 21 15:25:49 2009 From: k12ltsp at hermon.net (k12ltsp) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:25:49 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM Login Slowness and Video Performance - Ubuntu Message-ID: Hi everyone, For the first time, we are trying Edubuntu 9.04 LTSP to see if we can get it to work for our district this year. For the most part, everything is working, but we have run into a few issues that are holding us back and I'm wondering if anyone can provide us guidance. 1. NIS/NFS login time too slow. For some odd reason, when a user logs into a terminal, there is a waiting period of 1 minute before the login is complete. When the user logs in, the screen remains black with the rotating cursor. We are using NFS on a central home server in our district. This central server acts as the NIS server as well for our accounts. We've localized the issue with LDM. I forced the terminals to boot and load GDM, and when a user logs in through the GDM interface, their account loads immediately. However, the GDM hack isn't perfect because a screen comes up on each terminal asking the user to pick a XDMCP server to connect to, which won't work in a production environment. Does anyone know where we can find more information on how to correct the login delay with the LDM Login Manager? 2. We are having a slow video performance issue on the terminals compared to our CentOS 5 servers. On the CentOS 5 server, student connect to a Video Library server we have through a web browser, which plays full-screen using the mplayerplug-in. The plugin launches and the video launches, but it runs too slow. I should mention that we have turned off SSH tunneling by adding " LDM_DIRECTX=y" into the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf file. Thank you! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alan Owen Assistant to the Director of Information Services Hermon Information Services/Hermon School Department "Using Technology to Empower All Students to Succeed in a Changing World." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Tue Jul 21 15:32:04 2009 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:32:04 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM Login Slowness and Video Performance - Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <994441ae0907210832h2b46d9b3q2df80c692073dc@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:25 AM, k12ltsp wrote: > 1. NIS/NFS login time too slow. > > For some odd reason, when a user logs into a terminal, there is a waiting > period of 1 minute before the login is complete. When the user logs in, > the screen remains black with the rotating cursor. > > We are using NFS on a central home server in our district. This central > server acts as the NIS server as well for our accounts. > > We've localized the issue with LDM. I forced the terminals to boot and > load GDM, and when a user logs in through the GDM interface, their account > loads immediately. However, the GDM hack isn't perfect because a screen > comes up on each terminal asking the user to pick a XDMCP server to > connect to, which won't work in a production environment. > > Does anyone know where we can find more information on how to correct the > login delay with the LDM Login Manager? We ran into a similar issue that seemed to be to do with the number of IDs in the authentication back-end (LDAP in our case), rather than the NFS piece. How many users/groups in your NIS setup? I submitted a bug (w/ a patch) in April, FWIW: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/357268 -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From k12ltsp at hermon.net Tue Jul 21 16:04:35 2009 From: k12ltsp at hermon.net (k12ltsp) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:04:35 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM Login Slowness and Video Performance - Ubuntu Message-ID: "Support list for open source software in schools." writes: >We ran into a similar issue that seemed to be to do with the number of >IDs in the authentication back-end (LDAP in our case), rather than the >NFS piece. How many users/groups in your NIS setup? > >I submitted a bug (w/ a patch) in April, FWIW: >https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/357268 > >-- >Dan Young >Multnomah ESD - Technology Services >503-257-1562 Hi Dan! We have about 1,970 NIS accounts on the server. From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Tue Jul 21 16:50:53 2009 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:50:53 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM Login Slowness and Video Performance - Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <994441ae0907210950t4b46746bw8c6a51afc193508c@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:04 AM, k12ltsp wrote: > "Support list for open source software in schools." > writes: >>We ran into a similar issue that seemed to be to do with the number of >>IDs in the authentication back-end (LDAP in our case), rather than the >>NFS piece. How many users/groups in your NIS setup? >> >>I submitted a bug (w/ a patch) in April, FWIW: >>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/357268 >> >>-- >>Dan Young >>Multnomah ESD - Technology Services >>503-257-1562 > > Hi Dan! > > We have about 1,970 NIS accounts on the server. That's probably enough to trigger the issue we saw. Try that patch out. Should be easy to add: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24971307/localapps.patch -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From HBurroughs at hhprep.org Fri Jul 24 14:08:16 2009 From: HBurroughs at hhprep.org (Burroughs, Henry) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:16 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Status of k12linux F11 Message-ID: <3437EBC2F7B463439E7CD8796349DCF29873E2@enterprise.hhp.hhprep.org> I know we have had a x86 beta available, but what is the current status of the F11 version of K12linux? Also, whatever happened with those replacement X11 package(s) that fixed a speed bug with X11 and TCP? Will that be incorporated in the F11 version? Thanks! I've just got about 2-3 weeks left before our new school year starts and would love to migrate my K12LSTP 5EL system over to the F11 versin of K12linux. Henry Burroughs Technology Director Hilton Head Preparatory School www.hhprep.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Warren From jhansen at winonacotter.org Fri Jul 24 18:15:16 2009 From: jhansen at winonacotter.org (John Hansen) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:15:16 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] script needed In-Reply-To: <4A69F704.1020601@redhat.com> References: <3437EBC2F7B463439E7CD8796349DCF29873E2@enterprise.hhp.hhprep.org> <4A69F704.1020601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090724181320.M4137@winonacotter.org> I have converted from mbox to Maildir folders on my old server. I am moving the folders from my old mail server to my new mail server which is using Maildir. The problem is my courierimapsubscribed file is unaware of the non-default folders the users have added themselves. I need a script that can look at all the files in my existing Maildir folder that do not match the default folders (ie .Sent, .Trash, .Drafts, cur, new, tmp, etc) and then append those file names to courierimapsubscribed so that my imap clients will recognize them. For example, say my user created a Maildir/.Folder1, I need the line INBOX.Folder1 appended to courierimapsubscribed. Can anyone help me come up with a script to do this? Thanks. John -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Cotter Technology Department, and is believed to be clean. From rowens at ptd.net Fri Jul 24 22:38:57 2009 From: rowens at ptd.net (Rob Owens) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:38:57 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] what's Eric Harrison up to these days? Message-ID: <20090724223857.GD3073@aurora.owens.net> I was just curious what Eric's been up to since K12LTSP became K12Linux. I haven't seen him on the list for quite some time. -Rob From scott at hosef.org Fri Jul 24 23:05:50 2009 From: scott at hosef.org (R. Scott Belford) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:05:50 -1000 Subject: [K12OSN] what's Eric Harrison up to these days? In-Reply-To: <20090724223857.GD3073@aurora.owens.net> References: <20090724223857.GD3073@aurora.owens.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > I was just curious what Eric's been up to since K12LTSP became K12Linux. ?I haven't seen him on the list for quite some time. I heard that the recent 'protest' on Mt. Rushmore was actually a noble attempt to add his face. > > -Rob --scott From peter at scheie.homedns.org Sat Jul 25 20:22:00 2009 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:22:00 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] script needed In-Reply-To: <20090724181320.M4137@winonacotter.org> References: <3437EBC2F7B463439E7CD8796349DCF29873E2@enterprise.hhp.hhprep.org> <4A69F704.1020601@redhat.com> <20090724181320.M4137@winonacotter.org> Message-ID: <4A6B6968.10901@scheie.homedns.org> John, I don't fully understand what you want to do here, but I'll take a stab at it and others can join in and hopefully we'll at least get you moving in the right direction. # Define list of folders to ignore ignore='.Sent .Trash .Drafts cur new tmp' # loop through all users for user in $(ls /home/); do # loop through each user's Maildir for file in $(ls -a /home/${user}/Maildir/); do # grep for each file name in $ignore list; if that fails--a # logical OR denoted by the double-pipe (||) then add the # file name to the courierimapsubscribed file # The slash at the end of the first line means 'continued on # next line'; alternatively, in a script the two lines could be # combined into one (without the slash then) (echo $ignore |grep $file >/dev/null) || \ echo INBOX${file} >> /home/${user}/courierimapsubscribed done done # End of script I haven't test this, so I suggest you try it on a subset of users by changing for user in $(ls /home/); do to for user in bob sally jim; do replacing bob, sally, and jim with real user names just to make sure you get what you want, before letting it rip on all your users. HTH Peter John Hansen wrote: > I have converted from mbox to Maildir folders on my old server. I am moving > the folders from my old mail server to my new mail server which is using > Maildir. The problem is my courierimapsubscribed file is unaware of the > non-default folders the users have added themselves. I need a script that can > look at all the files in my existing Maildir folder that do > not match the default folders (ie .Sent, .Trash, .Drafts, cur, new, tmp, etc) > and then append those file names to courierimapsubscribed so that my imap > clients will recognize them. For example, say my user created a > Maildir/.Folder1, I need the line INBOX.Folder1 appended to > courierimapsubscribed. > > Can anyone help me come up with a script to do this? > > Thanks. > > John > From william at fragakis.com Sun Jul 26 12:13:51 2009 From: william at fragakis.com (William Fragakis) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:13:51 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] getting local firefox to resolve Message-ID: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> I've enabled localapps, installed firefox, turned on nat in iptables and enabled ipv4 forwardi ng in/etc/sysctl.conf but no joy in getting firefox (or even ping) to resolve locally on the thin client. I'm running k12linux (f11). Any ideas or obvious places to look? I've checked the usual wikis, google, etc. and spent much more time on this than I should have. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, William Fragakis From robark at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 17:32:05 2009 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:32:05 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] getting local firefox to resolve In-Reply-To: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> References: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:13 AM, William Fragakis wrote: > I've enabled localapps, installed firefox, turned on nat in iptables and > enabled ipv4 forwardi ng in/etc/sysctl.conf > > but no joy in getting firefox (or even ping) to resolve locally on the > thin client. > > I'm running k12linux (f11). > > Any ideas or obvious places to look? I've checked the usual wikis, > google, etc. and spent much more time on this than I should have. Any > suggestions would be appreciated. Did you try this Install new software in chroot chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 mount /proc yum install firefox exit launch app as a local app /usr/bin/ltsp-localapps /usr/bin/firefox If network apps don't work then you may need to setup nat in your firewall on your external nic iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE You can also set this up with the gui program system-config-firewall > > Thanks, > William Fragakis > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From news at siddall.name Sun Jul 26 19:12:26 2009 From: news at siddall.name (Jeff Siddall) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:12:26 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Can local client processes launch server applications? Message-ID: <4A6CAA9A.5000901@siddall.name> I am trying to do the opposite of ltsp-localapps. I want a process running on the thin client to launch an application on the server. Is there an easy way to do this (ie: via the existing ssh tunnel)? I did not find anything from googling. I have a USB device that needs to be attached to the client, but it needs to launch firefox on the server and display it for the thin client user. Any advice would be appreciated. Jeff From daleif at imf.au.dk Tue Jul 28 13:04:23 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:23 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM problem: text is missing Message-ID: <4A6EF757.2050807@imf.au.dk> Up until now I've been using a Ubuntu based client and a RHEL 5.3 application server. Just because it was much easier to build the client on Ubuntu. Though I have run into some XKB issues in Gnome, so now I'm retrying to use Fedora F10 to build the client. But I keep getting a particular problem: There is no text on the LDM login screen. Just the input field and a blue background. Any idea as to how one fixes this? -- /daleif From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 16:24:41 2009 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:24:41 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM problem: text is missing In-Reply-To: <4A6EF757.2050807@imf.au.dk> References: <4A6EF757.2050807@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: Hello, I have had the exact same issue! If anyone has an idea on how to resolve this it would be greatly appreciated. I am running K12Linux (on top of Fedora 11). It only occurs with certain clients. Thank you. Joseph On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Lars Madsen wrote: > Up until now I've been using a Ubuntu based client and a RHEL 5.3 > application server. > > Just because it was much easier to build the client on Ubuntu. Though I have > run into some XKB issues in Gnome, so now I'm retrying to use Fedora F10 to > build the client. > > But I keep getting a particular problem: > > There is no text on the LDM login screen. Just the input field and a blue > background. > > Any idea as to how one fixes this? > > > -- > > /daleif > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From daleif at imf.au.dk Tue Jul 28 20:04:57 2009 From: daleif at imf.au.dk (Lars Madsen) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:04:57 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM problem: text is missing In-Reply-To: <4A6EF757.2050807@imf.au.dk> References: <4A6EF757.2050807@imf.au.dk> Message-ID: <4A6F59E9.5000007@imf.au.dk> Lars Madsen wrote: > Up until now I've been using a Ubuntu based client and a RHEL 5.3 > application server. > > Just because it was much easier to build the client on Ubuntu. Though I > have run into some XKB issues in Gnome, so now I'm retrying to use > Fedora F10 to build the client. > > But I keep getting a particular problem: > > There is no text on the LDM login screen. Just the input field and a > blue background. > > Any idea as to how one fixes this? > > just to mention, I have no problem with the LDM running through an Ubuntu based client in on the same hardware. /daleif From brcisna at eazylivin.net Tue Jul 28 23:54:24 2009 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:54:24 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM problem: text is missing Message-ID: <1248825264.11012.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Joseph, When you say "it happens on certain clients". Does this mean that the LDM text does show up as it should on most TC's? Have either of you seen anything odd in the system logs on the server after you boot a TC up? Also to narrow a few things down have either or both of you done updates after installing K12Linux? Barry From odin at gnuskole.no Wed Jul 29 07:00:29 2009 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Odin_N=F8sen?=) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:00:29 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] LDM problem: text is missing In-Reply-To: <1248825264.11012.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1248825264.11012.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090729065910.M82194@gnuskole.no> > When you say "it happens on certain clients". Does this mean that the > LDM text does show up as it should on most TC's? Have either of you seen > anything odd in the system logs on the server after you boot a TC up? > Also to narrow a few things down have either or both of you done updates > after installing K12Linux? We have also experienced this - and the fast solution was to set XSERVER = vesa on these clients. The i810-driver seems to be a bit buggy on some clients. Odin From begocan at ensieta.fr Wed Jul 29 14:17:16 2009 From: begocan at ensieta.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_BEGOC?=) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:17:16 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux and NTFS In-Reply-To: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> References: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> Message-ID: Hi all, My server K12Linux 5 (CentOS 5.3) is OK with thin, but it's also gateway for classic pc on Windows. I have two external diks on NTFS than i can'mount on server K12. What modules are usable ? thank you ------------------------------------------------- Andr? B?goc Service Informatique ENSIETA (www.ensieta.fr) 29806 - Brest Cedex 09 begocan at ensieta.fr T?l : 02 98 34 88 83 ------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What modules are usable ? > thank you > yum install fuse-ntfs-3g From wtogami at redhat.com Wed Jul 29 16:15:47 2009 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:15:47 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux and NTFS In-Reply-To: <58780.216.216.171.238.1248886142.squirrel@216.216.171.238> References: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> <58780.216.216.171.238.1248886142.squirrel@216.216.171.238> Message-ID: <4A7075B3.1010803@redhat.com> On 07/29/2009 12:49 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: >> Hi all, >> My server K12Linux 5 (CentOS 5.3) is OK with thin, but it's also gateway >> for classic pc on Windows. I have two external diks on NTFS than i >> can'mount on server K12. What modules are usable ? >> thank you >> > yum install fuse-ntfs-3g > CentOS 5.3 doesn't have fuse, and it was called K12LTSP back then. This isn't K12Linux. Warren From begocan at ensieta.fr Wed Jul 29 17:26:56 2009 From: begocan at ensieta.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_BEGOC?=) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:26:56 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux and NTFS In-Reply-To: <4A7075B3.1010803@redhat.com> References: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> <58780.216.216.171.238.1248886142.squirrel@216.216.171.238> <4A7075B3.1010803@redhat.com> Message-ID: Excuse me, my server is : K12LTSP release 5.0.0EL-0.2 on : CentOS release 5.3 I have : - kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.18-128.el5-2.1.27-0.rr.10.11.i686 (rpm) - ntfsprogs-2.0.0 (rpm) But i can't mount ntfs disk. ------------------------------------------------- Andr? B?goc Service Informatique ENSIETA (www.ensieta.fr) 29806 - Brest Cedex 09 begocan at ensieta.fr T?l : 02 98 34 88 83 ------------------------------------------------ Warren Togami Envoy? par : k12osn-bounces at redhat.com 29/07/2009 18:15 Veuillez r?pondre ? "Support list for open source software in schools." A "Support list for open source software in schools." cc Objet Re: [K12OSN] K12Linux and NTFS On 07/29/2009 12:49 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: >> Hi all, >> My server K12Linux 5 (CentOS 5.3) is OK with thin, but it's also gateway >> for classic pc on Windows. I have two external diks on NTFS than i >> can'mount on server K12. What modules are usable ? >> thank you >> > yum install fuse-ntfs-3g > CentOS 5.3 doesn't have fuse, and it was called K12LTSP back then. This isn't K12Linux. Warren _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rowens at ptd.net Wed Jul 29 23:02:39 2009 From: rowens at ptd.net (Rob Owens) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:02:39 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux and NTFS In-Reply-To: <4A7075B3.1010803@redhat.com> References: <1248610431.402.7.camel@server.ltsp> <58780.216.216.171.238.1248886142.squirrel@216.216.171.238> <4A7075B3.1010803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090729230239.GA17154@aurora.owens.net> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:15:47PM -0400, Warren Togami wrote: > On 07/29/2009 12:49 PM, Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> My server K12Linux 5 (CentOS 5.3) is OK with thin, but it's also gateway >>> for classic pc on Windows. I have two external diks on NTFS than i >>> can'mount on server K12. What modules are usable ? >>> thank you >>> >> yum install fuse-ntfs-3g >> > > CentOS 5.3 doesn't have fuse, and it was called K12LTSP back then. This > isn't K12Linux. > > Warren > I believe you can get fuse from the rpmforge repository. -Rob From jessemcdonnell at verizon.net Thu Jul 30 01:37:55 2009 From: jessemcdonnell at verizon.net (Jesse McDonnell) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:37:55 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID1 and cloning K12LTSP Message-ID: <20090729213755.7d4fde50.jessemcdonnell@verizon.net> My existing setup is K12LTSP5.0.0EL-64bit (upgraded to Centos 5.3) installed on a 160G SATA drive with separate / /home & /swap partitions, 4G ram, Athlon X2 4600+ CPU. It works perfectly and I rsync the home directories to another pc to avoid data loss. Now, I want to replace the 160G drive with two 300G SATA drives in a raid1 setup and I'm looking for advice/modifications on the upgrade route of doing a virgin raid1 install and immediately replacing it like so: 1. Physically disconnect 160G drive and connect two new drives. 2. Using K12LTSP5.0 discs (from 2007), do fresh minimal install setting up raid partitions / /home and /swap -reboot to make sure everything works. 3. Reconnect 160G drive, boot in rescue mode (maybe use knoppix disc). Copy /etc/fstab for new raid1 install somewhere safe. 4. Delete contents of /home and / partitions on each raid1 drive and copy over contents of / (except for /etc/fstab) and /home from 160G drive. 5. Restore /etc/fstab to 300G drives. 6. Disconnect 160G drive and reboot in rescue mode, chroot to /mnt/sysinstall and run grub-install (on both drives?) In theory this looks like it should work, but we all know the devil is in the details! Are there any major gotchas etc? Jesse From cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us Thu Jul 30 13:29:54 2009 From: cisna-barry at wc235.k12.il.us (Barry Cisna) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:29:54 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] K12Linux and NTFS Message-ID: <1248960594.12169.5.camel@hi2.wc235.k12.il.us> Andre, When you say external disks,I assume these are connected via usb cable? If so, are the connected EX disks being recognized at bios level of the server? If they are showing up in the mobo bios,you should be able to put an entry in your /etc/fstab file as such: /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 Reboot server and you should be seeing these two drives connected. *Note*: this is using the ntfs-3g module Let us know your progress. Take Care, Barry Cisna From jjurrens at emmetsburg.k12.ia.us Thu Jul 30 16:01:48 2009 From: jjurrens at emmetsburg.k12.ia.us (jjurrens at emmetsburg.k12.ia.us) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:01:48 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Out of Office Message-ID: <9dfe670cef7340509e202fdbe6b599f9@446cc0a0ac614748a0daa6a6a142aaaf> I will be out of the office until Monday, August 3rd. I will respond to your email when I return. Thanks, Jay Jurrens 5-12 Principal/Technology Coordinator Emmetsburg Schools 205 King Street Emmetsburg, Iowa 50536 From wtogami at redhat.com Thu Jul 30 17:37:15 2009 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:37:15 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID1 and cloning K12LTSP In-Reply-To: <20090729213755.7d4fde50.jessemcdonnell@verizon.net> References: <20090729213755.7d4fde50.jessemcdonnell@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A71DA4B.2040900@redhat.com> On 07/29/2009 09:37 PM, Jesse McDonnell wrote: > My existing setup is K12LTSP5.0.0EL-64bit (upgraded to Centos 5.3) installed on a 160G SATA drive with separate / /home& /swap partitions, 4G ram, Athlon X2 4600+ CPU. It works perfectly and I rsync the home directories to another pc to avoid data loss. Now, I want to replace the 160G drive with two 300G SATA drives in a raid1 setup and I'm looking for advice/modifications on the upgrade route of doing a virgin raid1 install and immediately replacing it like so: > > 1. Physically disconnect 160G drive and connect two new drives. > 2. Using K12LTSP5.0 discs (from 2007), do fresh minimal install setting up raid partitions / /home and /swap -reboot to make sure everything works. > 3. Reconnect 160G drive, boot in rescue mode (maybe use knoppix disc). Copy /etc/fstab for new raid1 install somewhere safe. > 4. Delete contents of /home and / partitions on each raid1 drive and copy over contents of / (except for /etc/fstab) and /home from 160G drive. > 5. Restore /etc/fstab to 300G drives. > 6. Disconnect 160G drive and reboot in rescue mode, chroot to /mnt/sysinstall and run grub-install (on both drives?) > > In theory this looks like it should work, but we all know the devil is in the details! Are there any major gotchas etc? > > Jesse http://togami.com/~warren/guides/remoteraidcrazies/ This guide with some variations for your unique situation should give you some ideas. Warren From pauls at tclcommunications.co.nz Fri Jul 31 06:52:22 2009 From: pauls at tclcommunications.co.nz (Paul Satherley) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:52:22 +0000 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID1 and cloning K12LTSP In-Reply-To: <4A71DA4B.2040900@redhat.com> References: <20090729213755.7d4fde50.jessemcdonnell@verizon.net> <4A71DA4B.2040900@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1249023142.12665.3.camel@localhost> Hi, I've used this many times...Just let mdadm do all the work! (software Raid1) I presume ?? http://wiki.contribs.org/Raid#Upgrading_the_Hard_Drive_Size cheers On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 13:37 -0400, Warren Togami wrote: > > > > > On 07/29/2009 09:37 PM, Jesse McDonnell wrote: > > My existing setup is K12LTSP5.0.0EL-64bit (upgraded to Centos 5.3) > installed on a 160G SATA drive From jjurrens at emmetsburg.k12.ia.us Fri Jul 31 16:01:39 2009 From: jjurrens at emmetsburg.k12.ia.us (jjurrens at emmetsburg.k12.ia.us) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:01:39 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Out of Office Message-ID: I will be out of the office until Monday, August 3rd. I will respond to your email when I return. Thanks, Jay Jurrens 5-12 Principal/Technology Coordinator Emmetsburg Schools 205 King Street Emmetsburg, Iowa 50536