[K12OSN] Where is K12LTSP at?

Moon moon at smbis.com
Tue Mar 3 02:59:28 UTC 2009


Warren, I noticed you stated you have an AMD Geode thin client in your
lab. What video driver are you using/specifying in the lts.conf for that
client? I have a Alix1.D AMD LX800 Geode based thin client that the
video doesn't work too well with K12LTSP or K12Linux, it defaults to
vesa. I would like to get better video performance on both K12LTSP and
K12Linux. It also has a problem with the audio on the K12LTSP due to no
support for the CS5535, there is no snd_cs5535audio driver available in
K12LTSP.

Thanks

Charlie 

On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 12:24 -0500, Warren Togami wrote:

> Rob Owens wrote:
> > If you're looking for something longer life than Fedora / LTSP 5, you
> > could try Debian Lenny or Ubuntu Hardy, both with LTSP 5.  Or you
> > could stick with CentOS / LTSP 4.2.  I know there's also an OpenSuse
> > implementation of LTSP 5, but I don't know much about that
> > distribution or its life cycle.
> 
> http://k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
> "K12LTSP is considered to be LEGACY software that is usable with old 
> hardware until CentOS5 support ends in the year 2014. If you need modern 
> LTSP 5.x features or modern client hardware, then you will want to use 
> K12Linux.org."
> 
> K12LTSP EL5 uses the ancient LTSP-4.2.  This is beneficial in that you 
> get security updates for the server and desktop applications on the 
> server until the year 2014.  Ubuntu and Debian releases do not last 
> nearly *that* long.
> 
> The other benefit of K12LTSP EL5 is it works with more ancient client 
> hardware due its ancient version of X and kernel.  This is also a 
> detriment though... because lots of modern client hardware will not work 
> at all.
> 
> K12Linux F10 has the benefit of modern LTSP5 features like sound, local 
> storage devices, local apps support, and modern X allows modern client 
> hardware to work.  The drawbacks however are:
> 
> * Modern X broke some older client hardware.  These are upstream x.org 
> bugs.  They will only be fixed if people take the time to file the bugs 
> upstream instead of just complain about them.  I personally don't have 
> time nor hardware to work on this.  I have a dozen different modern thin 
> clients of AMD Geode, VIA, Intel and Radeon chipsets and they all work 
> great with K12Linux.
> * It needs more RAM on the client, at least 128MB to be safe.
> * Support ends early 2010.
> 
> The support problem isn't too bad.  Just use K12Linux F10 until K12Linux 
> EL6 (RHEL6 + EPEL6) is out.  Then upgrade once into that version which 
> will be supported for many years thereafter.
> 
> Warren Togami
> wtogami at redhat.com
> 
> > 
> > Somewhere on the LTSP wiki I think there are instructions for how to
> > use an Ubuntu-based chroot environment on any other distro.  There's
> > a guy on the ltsp-discuss list who uses LTSP 5 on CentOS in this way.
> 
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