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Re: [K12OSN] Scary article from Russia (w/o love)



I also thought that article was nothing but a troll.  I have installed
Ubuntu on hundreds of computers, and have used it for a primary
desktop.  I also have installed Windows hundreds of times.  Many
statements made in the article are true of any OS:  Things have to be
tweaked to user preference, sound settings are subjective, most home
users use what "standard software" that comes with the machine (I
can't tell you how many people I've seen stick with MS Works,
ClarisWorks, or Word Perfect even though no one else can open their
documents).  And sound problems?  On my personal machine, Ubuntu had
far better control over my sound card than the drivers under Windows,
I almost never have to find sound drivers for Ubuntu, but have for
Windows.  I've had to find way more drivers for tons of hardware under
Windows (sitting in front of me now, fresh install needs network,
video, sound, and chipset drivers).

Maybe this person was just trying to get the list fired up.

Eric

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:56 PM,  <monteslu cox net> wrote:
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> It is in fact ready for plenty of desktops.  I've been using it exclusively
> at home for most of the decade.  It's not for EVERYONE, but neither is
> windows or OSX.  Making a blanket statement that is not ready is trolling
> and should be treated as such.
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> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:54 AM , Moon wrote:
>  Based on the comments from the Linux side, I believe one can easily see why
> Linux is NOT truly ready for the desktop. If anyone that thinks it is, based
> on applications and usability, then they are obviously not basing their
> opinion on fact.
> I have been using Linux exclusively as my desktop platform for the past two
> years (willing to work through and around Linux desktop's shot comings) and
> can tell you honestly that there are a lot of shortcomings in Linux as a
> desktop client. Note that I have used CentOS, Fedora, and Ubuntu for the
> last four plus releases, as well as deployed K12LTSP and K12Linux in school
> labs for the past two plus years, so I have had extensive experience with
> the usability as well as issues with Linux.
> Continuing to blindly favor and praise Linux desktop solely because of ones
> prejudices against Microsoft is foolishness and continues to cause Linux to
> not address it's weaknesses and enhance it's usability for desktop users.
> Out of the box experience, what 90% of the computing user world experiences,
> determines their preferences, and if they have to go through Linux
> setup/configuration Hell to do it, guess what, they won't. Look at the
> statistics for the number of returned Linux based Netbook PCs vs Windows XP
> based Netbook PCs, that alone should tell us something.
> It is in Linux best interest to seriously tune and optimize their desktop
> offerings. Secondly, Linux seriously needs a Small Business Server platform
> that competes with Microsoft's SBS. Continuing to ignore these two key areas
> will continue to be Linux Achilles heel to wider adoption.
> Red Hat can continue to blindly ignore desktop and Small Business Server
> opportunities to their own demise, but Ubuntu and SUSE will eventually
> fulfill that niche and eventually surpass Red Hat. Keep in mind that the
> lions share of businesses are small.
>
>
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 10:00 -0600, David L. Willson wrote: I resemble that.
> For my part, I think Linux is completely ready for the desktop, but I'm not
> sure that the users are ready and I'm not sure that IT people are as ready
> as they think they are.  So, my general-purpose advice is this:  Go ahead
> and pilot Linux on the desktop, with an eye toward full deployment, but make
> darn sure you have a safety net: a Windows Terminal Server, a Virtual
> Machine, or a dual-boot handy for anything you might have overlooked.
> Working without a net is bad geekery.  It scares users, and it should.  Be
> humble.  Serve the users that feed you.  Study as hard as you can.  Never,
> ever attack people, even when they're being "stupid" and "deserve it".
> --David ----- "Terrell Prude' Jr." < microman cmosnetworks com> wrote: >
> He's only done part of his homework.  And some of those "points" are > just
> plain wrong.  I smell an MCSE at work there.... > > --TP > > Alan Hodson
> wrote: > > Check out Tashkinov's article: >
> http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.html> >
> Serious food for thought! > > > > > > Alan A Hodson MEd. > > Instructional
> Applications Analyst > > El Paso Independent School District > > oF:
> 915-887-6871 > > fX: 915-772-4016 > > Nxt:915-892-0389 > >
> aahodson episd org> > http://links.episd.org/> > Open Source Grokker > >
> http://tinyurl.com/3e4sh8> > > > Life is not measured by the number of
> breaths we take, > > but by the moments that take our breath away > > -=o=-
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