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Re: [K12OSN] Thoughts on K12LTSP fading into the sunset

I'm still running K12LTSP 5EL! Why? Because it works, no fuss, no muss. For me, there's currently no compelling reason to upgrade. There's a company in Texas that, to my knowledge, is still running K12LTSP 5EL for their business. It does a great job. Not everybody needs the shiny new features of LTSP 5. For these folks, LTSP 4 really continues to do a fine job. That said, LTSP 5 would be pretty cool to run, no doubt.


Julius Szelagiewicz wrote:
I have been running LTSP 4 for ever now, as I can live without the new
stuff (business setting makes it easier) and I can say that LTSP 4 works
just fine with RHEL6. YMMV, but for basic stuff it's fine. Another option
is to run a separate server (may be VM) with whatever version of Linux
suits your version of LTSP. Tried it too - no problems.

On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Lars Schade wrote:


thanks for being so clear about the near term prospects of k12linux.
Though just like many others I am left disturbed and worried about the
future of LTSP on RH/fedora. I was expecting to be on the save side with
RHEL6 since it is based on f12/f13. And now you put into question
whether LTSP will ever work on RHEL6/f14. That leaves us with just a
6-month perspective of f13 as I understand.

Could you possibly point out just very briefly what the technical
hurdles in RHEL6/f14 are? Just so we get a feeling for whether it is a
general incompatibility (also applying to f15/f16...) or more of a
change requiring a though major but one-time modification to LTSP.

Back in September things sounded very promising but since reading your
recent mail I am really concerned about the future of LTSP in

But thanks again for the info, nothing is worse than planning on false


Am Freitag, den 10.12.2010, 10:43 +0000 schrieb Gavin Spurgeon:
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On 10/12/10 01:00, Peter Scheie wrote:
I think Warren is still working for Red Hat, but is busy with other
things. Even so, his focus was never K12LTSP per se, but rather getting
LTSP 5 to work on RH systems, which he did with Fedora.  Getting LTSP 5
to work on Centos 5 was difficult if not impossible because Centos 5
just doesn't have all of the necessary pieces built in.
Warren no longer works for Red Hat.

Gavin, who also works for RH I believe, is trying to pick up where
Warren left off.
I have indeed been working on trying to pick things up. I managed to get
LTSP working in F13 and published the .rpm's as well.


The big issue now is the Major changes in F14 are causing some issues
trying to get LTSP working @ all. I am still working on this and have a
friend who is also trying to help, But we are both also swamped with
workloads that seem never ending.

I aim is to have my .rpm's in the Official F13 Repos very early next
year. and then work on seeing *if* LTSP will ever work on F14/RHEL6/CentOS6.

We do have some Bugzilla's open for the work. So as soon as things calm
down here @ work, I will get strait back on the LTSP Train.

(It would be nice if RH could offer official, paid support for LTSP
on RHEL 6, although I realize the business case may just not be
This is a sad truth @ the moment...

Centos 6 will be along soon, although I don't think
anyone should be thinking they'll be able to switch to LTSP 5 on Centos
6 over the Christmas break; it just won't be ready.  I think planning to
make a switch next summer is a more realistic timetable.
With the issues in RHEL 6.0 I 110% agree with Peter here, I would also
hold off a little while until the silly little issues have been worked
out with RHEL 6.0 and 6.1 is released.


Barry Cisna wrote:
Hello All,

Just curious on what people's thoughts are of what appears to be K12LTSP
distro fading into the sunset?. Kid of hate to see the ball dropped.
Maybe I am missing something?...
What ever became of Warren Tagaomi,that was to carry on

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