From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sat Jun 5 12:31:30 2010 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 07:31:30 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Whats everyone using for thin clients as of this coming year? Message-ID: <1275741090.20112.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, Could some of you's post up what you are using for thin clients as well as numbers,switches,servers, in the upcoming year? Just curious what everyone thinks ' is the best mouse trap ' for TC's in their working network? Naturally ,I think we have the ultimate TC setup,but I am usually all wet! I would guess most people here are using a miriad of hardware in regards to TC iron,as it just seems 'this is the way it ends up being'. Does anyone have any desire to try and push more wireless integration into their k12linux networks? Take Care, Barry From cfiaime at cfiaime.com Sat Jun 5 21:19:56 2010 From: cfiaime at cfiaime.com (Jeff Williams) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 15:19:56 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin Client hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006051519.56970.cfiaime@cfiaime.com> On Saturday 05 June 2010 10:00:03 k12osn-request at redhat.com wrote: > Hello All, > > Could some of you's post up what you are using for thin clients as well > as numbers,switches,servers, in the upcoming year? Just curious what > everyone thinks ' is the best mouse trap ' for TC's in their working > network? > Naturally ,I think we have the ultimate TC setup,but I am usually all > wet! > I would guess most people here are using a miriad of hardware in regards > to TC iron,as it just seems 'this is the way it ends up being'. > Does anyone have any desire to try and push more wireless integration > into their k12linux networks? > > Take Care, > Barry > > > > ------------------------------ Greetings, I'm using K12LTSP both in a classroom setting in Grand Junction, Colorado, and at the Hospice of Saint John in Lakewood, Colorado. In both instances, we are using DevonIT hardware. The thin clients at Grand Junction are starting their third year with no problems, except infant mortality on one unity. They are DevonIT 6050, a model discontinued shortly after we bought them. At the Hospice we are using DevonIT TC-2 clients on a small educational network (and a bunch more as Windows Terminal Server clients). Most of these are 18 to 24 months old. We have had no problems with the 30 or so units that are deployed. I'm shying away from wireless for several reasons. First, it is a pain to manage, so it seems. It seems to randomly stop working for no apparent reason. I've got both "company" and "client" wireless networks at the Hospice, and frankly for the use I would just as soon dump it. Of course the SOHO grade wireless hardware is frustrating to set up seeing the various manfacturers don't want to allow us complete access to the system configuration settings. Older wireless access points and switches are easier to configure because the control software isn't trying to outsmart us. I am very pleased with the hardware and software in place for our K12LTSP installations. I am especially pleased with the DevonIT hardware and their customer service. -- jeff williams - cfiaime at cfiaime.com From dhhoward at comcast.net Sat Jun 5 23:11:14 2010 From: dhhoward at comcast.net (Daniel Howard) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:11:14 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Thin Client hardware In-Reply-To: <201006051519.56970.cfiaime@cfiaime.com> References: <201006051519.56970.cfiaime@cfiaime.com> Message-ID: <4C0AD992.2000801@comcast.net> Jeff Williams wrote: > I am very pleased with the hardware and software in place for our K12LTSP > installations. I am especially pleased with the DevonIT hardware and their > customer service. Jeff, are you running Firefox locally to get smoother video? I've heard that helps video web content a lot, but you need at least 512 MB RAM to do it. Best, Daniel From microman at cmosnetworks.com Sun Jun 6 04:00:48 2010 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:00:48 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Whats everyone using for thin clients as of this coming year? In-Reply-To: <1275741090.20112.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1275741090.20112.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4C0B1D70.5080803@cmosnetworks.com> I'm still old school, using cheap older PC's as thin clients. Nowadays it's the HP Vectra VL420. My K12 server remains K12LTSP 5.0EL. Hey, old school still works. :-) --TP Barry Cisna wrote: > Hello All, > > Could some of you's post up what you are using for thin clients as well > as numbers,switches,servers, in the upcoming year? Just curious what > everyone thinks ' is the best mouse trap ' for TC's in their working > network? > Naturally ,I think we have the ultimate TC setup,but I am usually all > wet! > I would guess most people here are using a miriad of hardware in regards > to TC iron,as it just seems 'this is the way it ends up being'. > Does anyone have any desire to try and push more wireless integration > into their k12linux networks? > > Take Care, > Barry > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From macevedo at newbedfordschools.org Mon Jun 7 13:50:32 2010 From: macevedo at newbedfordschools.org (Manuel Acevedo) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:50:32 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP Message-ID: I trying this k12ltsp on my server. I have a dell power edge t310. I have win server 2008. I would like to run k12ltsp. i have installed it on an external usb drive and is running. but i can only get 2 thin clients to sign on at the same time. the other just load and then go blank. by loading i mean the loading bar on the bottom of the screen comes on says fedora 10 laod all the way through and than the clients go blank and never come on to the login screen. can someone give me a hand. Manny Acevedo rookie k12ltsp user From burke at thealmquists.net Mon Jun 7 17:34:07 2010 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:34:07 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Manuel Acevedo wrote: > I trying this k12ltsp on my server. I have a dell power edge t310. > I have win server 2008. I would like to run k12ltsp. i have > installed it on an external usb drive and is running. but i can > only get 2 thin clients to sign on at the same time. the other just > load and then go blank. by loading i mean the loading bar on the > bottom of the screen comes on says fedora 10 laod all the way > through and than the clients go blank and never come on to the > login screen. can someone give me a hand. > Are your clients all the same make/model of computer, or are the ones that won't give you a login screen different than the 2 that get there? > Manny Acevedo > rookie k12ltsp user > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwNLY8ACgkQxWV7OPa/g5FDowCfURm6pXBi5cHRseiEWV4CqfW2 BAUAn1YxZsnfz2rAdgR4KizU9rPiLF4h =RMIm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 03:35:34 2010 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 23:35:34 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you purchase this server for $150? Message-ID: Hello, I hope everyone is doing well? I have an opportunity to purchase an HP Proliant DL360 G3 for $150. The specifications are: 2x2.8GHz Pentium 4 Hyperthreading Xeon processors 2GB ECC RAM Battery-backed hardware RAID 2x76GB 10k SCSI HDDs The full technical specs are here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00409027&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=316558&prodTypeId=15351 Our current setup is 15 clients but going to grow to 20 within a few weeks. Our current server is running K12Linux (based on Fedora 10) on a Pentium 4 (2.4 Ghz) with 3 GB RAM and 2x37 GB SCSI drives. What do you think? Would it provide a serious performance boost? Our server now is OK but you can feel at times it's slow with the 15 clients when they're all going. Joseph From gianugo.altieri at tiscali.it Tue Jun 8 07:01:21 2010 From: gianugo.altieri at tiscali.it (Gianugo Altieri) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:01:21 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you purchase this server for $150? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C0DEAC1.6090701@tiscali.it> Hello, we are operating a LAN with a similar server (DL 380 G3 2x2800) and we have 10 clients running OpenOffice, e-mail, desktop publishing, one PHP developer and one CAD system. Performance is excellent, provided that Firefox runs locally on clients. CPU workload never goes beyond 15~20%. We saw much difference from the previous Personal Computer we used as a server, although it ran on an Intel CoreDuo 5200 2.5 GHz. Our opinion is that a server, born to be a server, appears to be much more suited for that role than a fat PC. Please, note that these server are very bulky and noisy and can't be kept in the same room where people work. Gianugo Altieri Micro Bio Devices, Italy On 06/08/2010 05:35 AM, Joseph Bishay wrote: > Hello, > > I hope everyone is doing well? > > I have an opportunity to purchase an HP Proliant DL360 G3 for $150. > The specifications are: > > 2x2.8GHz Pentium 4 Hyperthreading Xeon processors > 2GB ECC RAM > Battery-backed hardware RAID > 2x76GB 10k SCSI HDDs > > The full technical specs are here: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00409027&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=316558&prodTypeId=15351 > > Our current setup is 15 clients but going to grow to 20 within a few > weeks. Our current server is running K12Linux (based on Fedora 10) on > a Pentium 4 (2.4 Ghz) with 3 GB RAM and 2x37 GB SCSI drives. > > What do you think? Would it provide a serious performance boost? Our > server now is OK but you can feel at times it's slow with the 15 > clients when they're all going. > > Joseph > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From dtrask at vcsvikings.org Tue Jun 8 14:51:36 2010 From: dtrask at vcsvikings.org (David Trask) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:36 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Summer is fast approaching! AND so is FOSSed 2010! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.fossed.com Hey everyone! Summer vacation is fast approaching! For many that means the kids are gone and it's time to recharge, refocus, and get things ready for another great school year! For many of us it also means having to find creative ways to do more with less. Budgets are tight and as a result technology folks are looking for new ways to maximize their dollars. FOSSed can help! Free and Open Source Software in EDucation (hence FOSSed) can help anyone get more bang for their buck while maintaining quality instruction and programming in their school or organization. We've got many great sessions for you this year! The program is almost final, but I keep getting awesome ideas that keep making it harder to finish ;-) We'll have sessions like "Making the Switch - moving to Google Apps", "Build an Electric Fence for your Network", "Open Source Authentication using Samba/LDAP - aka linux and active directory", "Nagios", "Creating Collaborative Learning Environments", "Virtualization", "Open1to1.org", "A Teachers Toolbox", "Quick and Easy Web tools for Motivating and Enhancing Learning", "Digital Citizenship in the Elementary Grades", "Introduction to Open Source Multi-media Production (video and audio)", "Beginning Linux - learn to how easy it us to use and install!", "Whistle while you Work!", and SO MUCH MORE (I'm out of room here) ;-) These are half-day or full-day sessions where you really get a chance to be "hands-on" try things out and learn from professionals just like you who use this stuff every day! Want to learn more? You can join us at FOSSed! Get the chance to talk to others and see how they're using Open Source in their schools and classrooms. Along with the popular Google Apps sessions...there are many other sessions for teachers and techies alike that will help you learn more to enhance and transform your classroom, school, or district. FOSSed is 3 days of fantastic hands-on learning, after-hours networking, and just plain fun! Join us! July 7th - 9th at Gould Academy in Bethel, Maine. Stay on campus for just $495 which includes EVERYTHING...all meals, rooms, and the conference. Live nearby? Join us as an off-campus attendee for $455...this includes the conference and snacks/lunch. Looking for professional development or recertification credit? FOSSed offers 3.0 CEU's through the University of Southern Maine (USM) via an official transcript. See? There are so many cool things about FOSSed....you should come! FOSSed is coming very soon! So register TODAY! We want you there with us! :-) http://www.fossed.com Are you an ACTEM member? Use your professional development benefit. Find out more at ACTEM.org Have some special circumstances or need some flexibility? Let us know! We want YOU at FOSSed and will work with you to make it happen. Flexible payment options (PO, check, credit card...) and a great conference! (we can even bill you after July 1st for those using $$$ from the new fiscal year budget) Visit http://www.fossed.com for more information and to register today! Questions? Contact us at copperdoggy at gmail.com Hope to see you there! David Trask FOSSed 2010 http://www.fossed.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhuckaby at paasda.org Tue Jun 8 16:30:43 2010 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:30:43 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you purchase this server for $150? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C0E7033.1050106@paasda.org> for $150 it seems like a great deal I ran 40 TCs on a similar machine but home-brew'd and 4 GB of RAM(I'd suggest maxing out the RAM asap) and do some NIC-bonding(which might be where current server is bottle-necking as well)... --Huck's 2 cents. Joseph Bishay wrote: > Hello, > > I hope everyone is doing well? > > I have an opportunity to purchase an HP Proliant DL360 G3 for $150. > The specifications are: > > 2x2.8GHz Pentium 4 Hyperthreading Xeon processors > 2GB ECC RAM > Battery-backed hardware RAID > 2x76GB 10k SCSI HDDs > > The full technical specs are here: > http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00409027&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=316558&prodTypeId=15351 > > Our current setup is 15 clients but going to grow to 20 within a few > weeks. Our current server is running K12Linux (based on Fedora 10) on > a Pentium 4 (2.4 Ghz) with 3 GB RAM and 2x37 GB SCSI drives. > > What do you think? Would it provide a serious performance boost? Our > server now is OK but you can feel at times it's slow with the 15 > clients when they're all going. > > Joseph > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 05:13:55 2010 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 01:13:55 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you purchase this server for $150? In-Reply-To: <4C0E7033.1050106@paasda.org> References: <4C0E7033.1050106@paasda.org> Message-ID: Hello, Thank you for your reply. This is good to hear that you were able to run 40 machines off the server. May I ask what sort of activity was being done on the thin clients to get an idea of the load? Also, any other feedback about this server? It is an online classified ad so it's not going to last long so I need to decide quickly! Thanks, Joseph On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Huck wrote: > for $150 it seems like a great deal I ran 40 TCs on a similar machine but > home-brew'd and 4 GB of RAM(I'd suggest maxing out the RAM asap) and do some > NIC-bonding(which might be where current server is bottle-necking as > well)... > > --Huck's 2 cents. > > Joseph Bishay wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I hope everyone is doing well? >> >> I have an opportunity to purchase an HP Proliant DL360 G3 for $150. >> The specifications are: >> >> 2x2.8GHz Pentium 4 Hyperthreading Xeon processors >> 2GB ECC RAM >> Battery-backed hardware RAID >> 2x76GB 10k SCSI HDDs >> >> The full technical specs are here: >> >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00409027&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=316558&prodTypeId=15351 >> >> Our current setup is 15 clients but going to grow to 20 within a few >> weeks. ?Our current server is running K12Linux (based on Fedora 10) on >> a Pentium 4 (2.4 Ghz) with 3 GB RAM and 2x37 GB SCSI drives. >> >> What do you think? Would it provide a serious performance boost? Our >> server now is OK but you can feel at times it's slow with the 15 >> clients when they're all going. >> >> Joseph >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From macevedo at newbedfordschools.org Wed Jun 9 11:51:52 2010 From: macevedo at newbedfordschools.org (Manuel Acevedo) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:51:52 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: All the clients are the same make, model, are al;l same. ________________________________________ From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Burke Almquist [burke at thealmquists.net] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 1:34 PM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Manuel Acevedo wrote: > I trying this k12ltsp on my server. I have a dell power edge t310. > I have win server 2008. I would like to run k12ltsp. i have > installed it on an external usb drive and is running. but i can > only get 2 thin clients to sign on at the same time. the other just > load and then go blank. by loading i mean the loading bar on the > bottom of the screen comes on says fedora 10 laod all the way > through and than the clients go blank and never come on to the > login screen. can someone give me a hand. > Are your clients all the same make/model of computer, or are the ones that won't give you a login screen different than the 2 that get there? > Manny Acevedo > rookie k12ltsp user > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwNLY8ACgkQxWV7OPa/g5FDowCfURm6pXBi5cHRseiEWV4CqfW2 BAUAn1YxZsnfz2rAdgR4KizU9rPiLF4h =RMIm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From dhuckaby at paasda.org Thu Jun 10 01:39:15 2010 From: dhuckaby at paasda.org (Huck) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:39:15 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you purchase this server for $150? In-Reply-To: References: <4C0E7033.1050106@paasda.org> Message-ID: <4C104243.7080802@paasda.org> 15 TC's in the library for class research and word processing...the rest were in 3-packs in each classroom... also 22 windows xp boxes and 15 macs in 2 separate labs using same server for filesharing/authentication... the NIC bonding and utilization of vlans is what made it possible the only bottle-necks I had were from then network saturation... someone a LONG time ago wrote up some 'usage' calculations of how much bandwidth a typical thin client soaked up.. --Huck Joseph Bishay wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you for your reply. This is good to hear that you were able to > run 40 machines off the server. May I ask what sort of activity was > being done on the thin clients to get an idea of the load? > > Also, any other feedback about this server? It is an online > classified ad so it's not going to last long so I need to decide > quickly! > > Thanks, > Joseph > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Huck wrote: >> for $150 it seems like a great deal I ran 40 TCs on a similar machine but >> home-brew'd and 4 GB of RAM(I'd suggest maxing out the RAM asap) and do some >> NIC-bonding(which might be where current server is bottle-necking as >> well)... >> >> --Huck's 2 cents. >> >> Joseph Bishay wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I hope everyone is doing well? >>> >>> I have an opportunity to purchase an HP Proliant DL360 G3 for $150. >>> The specifications are: >>> >>> 2x2.8GHz Pentium 4 Hyperthreading Xeon processors >>> 2GB ECC RAM >>> Battery-backed hardware RAID >>> 2x76GB 10k SCSI HDDs >>> >>> The full technical specs are here: >>> >>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00409027&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=316558&prodTypeId=15351 >>> >>> Our current setup is 15 clients but going to grow to 20 within a few >>> weeks. Our current server is running K12Linux (based on Fedora 10) on >>> a Pentium 4 (2.4 Ghz) with 3 GB RAM and 2x37 GB SCSI drives. >>> >>> What do you think? Would it provide a serious performance boost? Our >>> server now is OK but you can feel at times it's slow with the 15 >>> clients when they're all going. >>> >>> Joseph >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 16:40:18 2010 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:40:18 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? Message-ID: Hello. I hope everyone is doing well. So it seems there is no integrated version of K12Linux (Fedora + LTSP) beyond Fedora 10 (as per www.https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/) and it seems there's no plan to release it for the current version Fedora 13 (please correct me if I'm wrong). So I was thinking -- our server is currently running Fedora 10 but I'd like to update it to fedora 13 for the increased performance, updates etc. Can I just upgrade version 10 -> 11 -> 12 -> as per http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq ? Or am I asking for a world of hurt? :) I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by experts :) Thoughts? Joseph From clifford_ilkay at dinamis.com Thu Jun 10 17:07:34 2010 From: clifford_ilkay at dinamis.com (CLIFFORD ILKAY) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:07:34 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C111BD6.2050404@dinamis.com> On 06/10/2010 12:40 PM, Joseph Bishay wrote: > So I was thinking -- our server is currently running Fedora 10 but I'd > like to update it to fedora 13 for the increased performance, updates > etc. Can I just upgrade version 10 -> 11 -> 12 -> as per > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq ? Or am I asking for a > world of hurt? :) For what it's worth, I've tried upgrading my desktop system from Fedora 11 to 12 using that method and not only did it turn out to be much more time-consuming than installing from scratch, the upgraded system was broken to the extent that I didn't want to waste any more time on it. I suspect the problem was with the proprietary nVidia driver I had installed on F11. Regardless of whether you use the upgrade or clean install method, you must have a good backup anyway so you have nothing to lose, other than time, by trying the upgrade method first. On clean installs, do NOT rely on the installer doing the right thing and not clobbering filesystems that you've excluded from being overwritten during the installation process. I've read some horror stories on the Ubuntu list written by people who swear that they excluded /home and yet the installer got confused when it assembled the RAID set and managed to clobber their /home filesystem on a separate logical volume which, predictably, wasn't backed up. -- Regards, Clifford Ilkay Dinamis 1419-3266 Yonge St. Toronto, ON Canada M4N 3P6 +1 416-410-3326 From burke at thealmquists.net Thu Jun 10 17:30:43 2010 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:30:43 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then > install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about > missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a > computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by > experts :) FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build- client it says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know when/if that will/has been fixed. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP =rxW9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From burke at thealmquists.net Thu Jun 10 17:39:39 2010 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:39:39 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <631CF401-BE05-4DBD-8560-12510E06E4A6@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Manuel Acevedo wrote: > All the clients are the same make, model, are al;l same. Normally, I'd think this was a video driver issue. But you say all the clients are identical (RAM,CPU,VIdeo chipset, etc) So the first two you boot (no matter which two it is) come up ok? If this is the case, then I suspect that running off a USB attached HD is really affecting your performance. But they still should come up eventually. How long are you waiting before you give up on them booting? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwRI1sACgkQxWV7OPa/g5Gu6wCfWQ43A/yf5TAQP2jU0LwhL39D Z1IAn0fDJyh+imxf+jIla/WbZ5jAPn1o =QzW4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From monteslu at cox.net Thu Jun 10 18:10:29 2010 From: monteslu at cox.net (Luis Montes) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:10:29 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> Message-ID: <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> Looks like there's an open bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 please subscribe to the bug, vote, and comment on it. Luis Burke Almquist wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > >> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then >> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about >> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a >> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by >> experts :) > > FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora > 13. Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run > ltsp-build-client it says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know > when/if that will/has been fixed. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg > SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP > =rxW9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From macevedo at newbedfordschools.org Fri Jun 11 15:21:59 2010 From: macevedo at newbedfordschools.org (Manuel Acevedo) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:21:59 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP In-Reply-To: <631CF401-BE05-4DBD-8560-12510E06E4A6@thealmquists.net> References: , , <631CF401-BE05-4DBD-8560-12510E06E4A6@thealmquists.net> Message-ID: I waited hours the never came up. ________________________________________ From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Burke Almquist [burke at thealmquists.net] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:39 PM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Jun 9, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Manuel Acevedo wrote: > All the clients are the same make, model, are al;l same. Normally, I'd think this was a video driver issue. But you say all the clients are identical (RAM,CPU,VIdeo chipset, etc) So the first two you boot (no matter which two it is) come up ok? If this is the case, then I suspect that running off a USB attached HD is really affecting your performance. But they still should come up eventually. How long are you waiting before you give up on them booting? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwRI1sACgkQxWV7OPa/g5Gu6wCfWQ43A/yf5TAQP2jU0LwhL39D Z1IAn0fDJyh+imxf+jIla/WbZ5jAPn1o =QzW4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 15:57:19 2010 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:57:19 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> Message-ID: Thanks for finding that link. Do you think that this means that it will not be set up given that a integrated release for Fedora + LTSP hasn't been released since Fedora 10? Perhaps I should change to a different integrated distribution? Joseph On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Luis Montes wrote: > Looks like there's an open bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 > > please subscribe to the bug, vote, ?and comment on it. > > Luis > > > Burke Almquist wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then >>> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about >>> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a >>> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by >>> experts :) >> >> FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. >> Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build-client it >> says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know when/if that will/has been >> fixed. >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg >> SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP >> =rxW9 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From charlie at smbis.com Fri Jun 11 17:02:33 2010 From: charlie at smbis.com (Charlie) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:02:33 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> Message-ID: <1276275753.4479.45.camel@cws1.localdomain> Well, it's generally a good indication that they don't have any interest when they don't respond! On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 11:57 -0400, Joseph Bishay wrote: > Thanks for finding that link. Do you think that this means that it > will not be set up given that a integrated release for Fedora + LTSP > hasn't been released since Fedora 10? > > Perhaps I should change to a different integrated distribution? > > Joseph > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Luis Montes wrote: > > Looks like there's an open bug: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 > > > > please subscribe to the bug, vote, and comment on it. > > > > Luis > > > > > > Burke Almquist wrote: > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >>> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then > >>> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about > >>> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a > >>> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by > >>> experts :) > >> > >> FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. > >> Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build-client it > >> says the fc13 isn't supported. 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URL: From monteslu at cox.net Fri Jun 11 17:07:32 2010 From: monteslu at cox.net (Luis Montes) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:07:32 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: <1276275753.4479.45.camel@cws1.localdomain> References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> <1276275753.4479.45.camel@cws1.localdomain> Message-ID: <4C126D54.2060205@cox.net> I don't know how much weight the vote carries, but please everyone on this list, create an account on the tracker and put votes on the issue. Charlie wrote: > Well, it's generally a good indication that they don't have any > interest when they don't respond! > > > > On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 11:57 -0400, Joseph Bishay wrote: >> Thanks for finding that link. Do you think that this means that it >> will not be set up given that a integrated release for Fedora + LTSP >> hasn't been released since Fedora 10? >> >> Perhaps I should change to a different integrated distribution? >> >> Joseph >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Luis Montes > wrote: >> > Looks like there's an open bug: >> > >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 >> > >> > please subscribe to the bug, vote, and comment on it. >> > >> > Luis >> > >> > >> > Burke Almquist wrote: >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >>> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then >> >>> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about >> >>> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a >> >>> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by >> >>> experts :) >> >> >> >> FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. >> >> Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build-client it >> >> says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know when/if that will/has been >> >> fixed. >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) >> >> >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg >> >> SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP >> >> =rxW9 >> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> K12OSN mailing list >> >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> >> For more info see >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > K12OSN mailing list >> > K12OSN at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> > For more info see >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From gianugo.altieri at tiscali.it Fri Jun 11 19:56:55 2010 From: gianugo.altieri at tiscali.it (Gianugo Altieri) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:56:55 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> Message-ID: <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> We upgraded the whole F10+LTSP server to F12+LTSP by using the "preupgrade" package. Since then, it has been running for several months with no problem. Gianugo Altieri Micro Bio Devices, Italy On 06/11/2010 05:57 PM, Joseph Bishay wrote: > Thanks for finding that link. Do you think that this means that it > will not be set up given that a integrated release for Fedora + LTSP > hasn't been released since Fedora 10? > > Perhaps I should change to a different integrated distribution? > > Joseph > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Luis Montes wrote: > >> Looks like there's an open bug: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 >> >> please subscribe to the bug, vote, and comment on it. >> >> Luis >> >> >> Burke Almquist wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> >>>> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then >>>> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about >>>> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a >>>> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by >>>> experts :) >>>> >>> FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. >>> Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build-client it >>> says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know when/if that will/has been >>> fixed. >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg >>> SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP >>> =rxW9 >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Fri Jun 11 21:39:04 2010 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:39:04 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> Message-ID: Just hold on to your old client chroot. Would be prudent to make a backup of that somewhere. I've had decidedly mixed results doing an ltsp-build-client on F12+, but older client chroots work fine on and F12 server. -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Gianugo Altieri wrote: > ? ?We upgraded the whole F10+LTSP server to F12+LTSP by using the > "preupgrade" package. Since then, it has been running for several months > with no problem. > > ? ?Gianugo Altieri > ? ?Micro Bio Devices, Italy > > On 06/11/2010 05:57 PM, Joseph Bishay wrote: >> >> Thanks for finding that link. ?Do you think that this means that it >> will not be set up given that a integrated release for Fedora + LTSP >> hasn't been released since Fedora 10? >> >> Perhaps I should change to a different integrated distribution? >> >> Joseph >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Luis Montes ?wrote: >> >>> >>> Looks like there's an open bug: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 >>> >>> please subscribe to the bug, vote, ?and comment on it. >>> >>> Luis >>> >>> >>> Burke Almquist wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then >>>>> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about >>>>> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a >>>>> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by >>>>> experts :) >>>>> >>>> >>>> FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. >>>> Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build-client >>>> it >>>> says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know when/if that will/has been >>>> fixed. >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) >>>> >>>> iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg >>>> SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP >>>> =rxW9 >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> K12OSN mailing list >>>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>>> For more info see >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From macevedo at newbedfordschools.org Mon Jun 14 15:56:12 2010 From: macevedo at newbedfordschools.org (Manuel Acevedo) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:56:12 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> , <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> Message-ID: Why upgrade if everything is working fine. ________________________________________ From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Gianugo Altieri [gianugo.altieri at tiscali.it] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:56 PM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? We upgraded the whole F10+LTSP server to F12+LTSP by using the "preupgrade" package. Since then, it has been running for several months with no problem. Gianugo Altieri Micro Bio Devices, Italy On 06/11/2010 05:57 PM, Joseph Bishay wrote: > Thanks for finding that link. Do you think that this means that it > will not be set up given that a integrated release for Fedora + LTSP > hasn't been released since Fedora 10? > > Perhaps I should change to a different integrated distribution? > > Joseph > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Luis Montes wrote: > >> Looks like there's an open bug: >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 >> >> please subscribe to the bug, vote, and comment on it. >> >> Luis >> >> >> Burke Almquist wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> >>>> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then >>>> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about >>>> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a >>>> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by >>>> experts :) >>>> >>> FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. >>> Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build-client it >>> says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know when/if that will/has been >>> fixed. >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg >>> SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP >>> =rxW9 >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From monteslu at cox.net Mon Jun 14 16:02:53 2010 From: monteslu at cox.net (Luis Montes) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:02:53 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> , <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <4C1652AD.6090606@cox.net> For me, everything isn't working fine. The logins are very slow in particular. I'm on fedora9 which is now long since unsupported. I'd like to get to fedora13 with the latest LTSP fixes. And to be able to get the kids using chrome for the web browser. Luis. Manuel Acevedo wrote: > Why upgrade if everything is working fine. > ________________________________________ > From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Gianugo Altieri [gianugo.altieri at tiscali.it] > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:56 PM > To: Support list for open source software in schools. > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? > > We upgraded the whole F10+LTSP server to F12+LTSP by using the > "preupgrade" package. Since then, it has been running for several months > with no problem. > > Gianugo Altieri > Micro Bio Devices, Italy > > On 06/11/2010 05:57 PM, Joseph Bishay wrote: > >> Thanks for finding that link. Do you think that this means that it >> will not be set up given that a integrated release for Fedora + LTSP >> hasn't been released since Fedora 10? >> >> Perhaps I should change to a different integrated distribution? >> >> Joseph >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Luis Montes wrote: >> >> >>> Looks like there's an open bug: >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598134 >>> >>> please subscribe to the bug, vote, and comment on it. >>> >>> Luis >>> >>> >>> Burke Almquist wrote: >>> >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I know you can set up a clean installation of Fedora 13 and then >>>>> install all the components of LTSP on top but I am concerned about >>>>> missing something/making a mistake and I'm also a biologist not a >>>>> computer expert so I'd prefer the integrated version as done by >>>>> experts :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> FYI: As of last week, ltsp-build-client wasn't working yet on Fedora 13. >>>> Yum will download all the ltsp stuff, but when you run ltsp-build-client it >>>> says the fc13 isn't supported. I don't know when/if that will/has been >>>> fixed. >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) >>>> >>>> iEYEARECAAYFAkwRIUMACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HoCgCaAmCFHMX4i6ppawxPwTBmiuHg >>>> SYMAn2+GWGklwdBZVVE+/w3sPu6vfeQP >>>> =rxW9 >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> K12OSN mailing list >>>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>>> For more info see >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> K12OSN mailing list >>> K12OSN at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >>> For more info see >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Mon Jun 14 22:10:04 2010 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:10:04 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> Message-ID: Hello, On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Manuel Acevedo wrote: > Why upgrade if everything is working fine. Fedora 10 was released in 2008. I have to believe that there has been significant improvements since that time! Software updates, security patches, boot-up times, hardware drivers, etc. I totally understand your point of view of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix' but I'm wondering with all the changes since 10 -> 13 I'm not missing many things that would make it a better experience for the students / teachers? Joseph From robark at gmail.com Mon Jun 14 22:58:02 2010 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:58:02 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT Dual personality Server (network pass through) Message-ID: I have 3 nics in a NATed gateway file server. Two nics (eth1, eth2) provide dhcp and nfs services to an internal subnet via a dedicated switch. The other nic (eth0) connects to an external WAN switch to provide net access to the systems in the subnet. --- eth1 WAN switch eth0 --- | SUBNET switch --- eth2 Question: Is it possible to disable the NATing, nfs, dhcp and just somehow bridge the external WAN nic to the internal ones such that it's just a pass through? Basically having the server behave like a switch? Allowing the internal systems to join the network on the WAN. I know how to disable NAT, nfs and dhcp but not how to configure the nics. I know I could simply unplug eth1, eth2 from the server and plug them into the WAN switch but my goal is to script this so I don't have to physically plug and unplug network cables each time. Thanks -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From microman at cmosnetworks.com Mon Jun 14 23:04:33 2010 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:04:33 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <4C16B581.2000404@cmosnetworks.com> Joseph Bishay wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Manuel Acevedo > wrote: > >> Why upgrade if everything is working fine. >> > > Fedora 10 was released in 2008. I have to believe that there has been > significant improvements since that time! Software updates, security > patches, boot-up times, hardware drivers, etc. I totally understand > your point of view of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix' but I'm wondering > with all the changes since 10 -> 13 I'm not missing many things that > would make it a better experience for the students / teachers? > > Joseph > The security updates issue is a big one for me. The Fedora Project only supports the last two releases for security updates. In this case, the last supported Fedora version would be 11. --TP From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Mon Jun 14 23:14:44 2010 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:14:44 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT Dual personality Server (network pass through) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: brctl in the bridge-utils package http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bridge You can do this using the Fedora/Redhat sysconfig setup rather than twiddling w/ brctl by hand, the advantage being that /etc/init.d/network does the right thing. See that the bridge "device" gets the IP address, and the ethernet devices are bound to the bridge: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0: DEVICE=br0 TYPE=Bridge BOOTPROTO=static ONBOOT=yes NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=10.0.0.1 IPADDR=10.0.0.2 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0: DEVICE=eth0 HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx ONBOOT=yes BRIDGE=br0 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1: DEVICE=eth1 HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx ONBOOT=yes BRIDGE=br0 I assume there are equivalents for Debian/Ubuntu network scripts, etc. -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > I have 3 nics in a NATed gateway file server. Two nics (eth1, eth2) > provide dhcp and nfs services to an internal subnet via a dedicated > switch. The other nic (eth0) connects to an external WAN switch to > provide net access to the systems in the subnet. > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --- eth1 > WAN switch eth0 --- | ? ? ? ? ? ? ? SUBNET switch > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --- eth2 > > Question: > Is it possible to disable the NATing, nfs, dhcp and just somehow > bridge the external WAN nic to the internal ones such that it's just a > pass through? Basically having the server behave like a switch? > Allowing the internal systems to join the network on the WAN. I know > how to disable NAT, nfs and dhcp but not how to configure the nics. > > I know I could simply unplug eth1, eth2 from the server and plug them > into the WAN switch but my goal is to script this so I don't have to > physically plug and unplug network cables each time. > > Thanks > > > -- > Robert Arkiletian > Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From burke at thealmquists.net Tue Jun 15 02:58:55 2010 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:58:55 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0284402E-9E5C-472A-AA59-6AD238B3E200@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dumb question, but are you trying to use the same account to login to all of your clients? You can't use the same login for every client. You need either to create a user account for each machine, or (usually) for each for your users. On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Manuel Acevedo wrote: > I trying this k12ltsp on my server. I have a dell power edge t310. > I have win server 2008. I would like to run k12ltsp. i have > installed it on an external usb drive and is running. but i can > only get 2 thin clients to sign on at the same time. the other just > load and then go blank. by loading i mean the loading bar on the > bottom of the screen comes on says fedora 10 laod all the way > through and than the clients go blank and never come on to the > login screen. can someone give me a hand. > > Manny Acevedo > rookie k12ltsp user > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwW7G8ACgkQxWV7OPa/g5G0QwCgiliJm0ocegcBeECTIOczpjj/ /cAAoIcAUln5pVgv+afxQFOp+0wajw3u =NNHc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From robark at gmail.com Tue Jun 15 04:01:14 2010 From: robark at gmail.com (Robert Arkiletian) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:01:14 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] OT Dual personality Server (network pass through) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Dan Young wrote: > brctl in the bridge-utils package > > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bridge > > You can do this using the Fedora/Redhat sysconfig setup rather than > twiddling w/ brctl by hand, the advantage being that > /etc/init.d/network does the right thing. See that the bridge "device" > gets the IP address, and the ethernet devices are bound to the bridge: > > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0: > DEVICE=br0 > TYPE=Bridge > BOOTPROTO=static > ONBOOT=yes > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > GATEWAY=10.0.0.1 > IPADDR=10.0.0.2 > > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0: > DEVICE=eth0 > HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx > ONBOOT=yes > BRIDGE=br0 > > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1: > DEVICE=eth1 > HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx > ONBOOT=yes > BRIDGE=br0 > > I assume there are equivalents for Debian/Ubuntu network scripts, etc. > Thanks Dan. I didn't figure it would be that easy. Problem solved. I should have thought of that myself as I know the new ltsp setup uses a bridged network device. Thanks again. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada From macevedo at newbedfordschools.org Tue Jun 15 15:53:39 2010 From: macevedo at newbedfordschools.org (Manuel Acevedo) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:53:39 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP In-Reply-To: <0284402E-9E5C-472A-AA59-6AD238B3E200@thealmquists.net> References: , <0284402E-9E5C-472A-AA59-6AD238B3E200@thealmquists.net> Message-ID: Each machine has a different login, user name but same password. ________________________________________ From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Burke Almquist [burke at thealmquists.net] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:58 PM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Test k12linux LTSP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dumb question, but are you trying to use the same account to login to all of your clients? You can't use the same login for every client. You need either to create a user account for each machine, or (usually) for each for your users. On Jun 7, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Manuel Acevedo wrote: > I trying this k12ltsp on my server. I have a dell power edge t310. > I have win server 2008. I would like to run k12ltsp. i have > installed it on an external usb drive and is running. but i can > only get 2 thin clients to sign on at the same time. the other just > load and then go blank. by loading i mean the loading bar on the > bottom of the screen comes on says fedora 10 laod all the way > through and than the clients go blank and never come on to the > login screen. can someone give me a hand. > > Manny Acevedo > rookie k12ltsp user > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkwW7G8ACgkQxWV7OPa/g5G0QwCgiliJm0ocegcBeECTIOczpjj/ /cAAoIcAUln5pVgv+afxQFOp+0wajw3u =NNHc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From macevedo at newbedfordschools.org Tue Jun 15 15:55:42 2010 From: macevedo at newbedfordschools.org (Manuel Acevedo) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:55:42 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? In-Reply-To: <4C16B581.2000404@cmosnetworks.com> References: <54A6F4DA-6875-4583-8FE7-1A1B06A9F5C9@thealmquists.net> <4C112A95.10507@cox.net> <4C129507.1020800@tiscali.it> , <4C16B581.2000404@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: you're absolutely right. I'm just getting my feet wet here. I installed 10 on a harddrive and tried running it on usb. It's pretty nice but still in testing stage. ________________________________________ From: k12osn-bounces at redhat.com [k12osn-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Terrell Prude' Jr. [microman at cmosnetworks.com] Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 7:04 PM To: Support list for open source software in schools. Subject: Re: [K12OSN] Upgrading from LTSP Fedora? Joseph Bishay wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Manuel Acevedo > wrote: > >> Why upgrade if everything is working fine. >> > > Fedora 10 was released in 2008. I have to believe that there has been > significant improvements since that time! Software updates, security > patches, boot-up times, hardware drivers, etc. I totally understand > your point of view of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix' but I'm wondering > with all the changes since 10 -> 13 I'm not missing many things that > would make it a better experience for the students / teachers? > > Joseph > The security updates issue is a big one for me. The Fedora Project only supports the last two releases for security updates. In this case, the last supported Fedora version would be 11. --TP _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see From gspurgeon at redhat.com Fri Jun 18 10:04:05 2010 From: gspurgeon at redhat.com (Gavin Spurgeon) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:04:05 +0300 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you like me to Take over LTSP rpm (Fedora) Maintenance ? Message-ID: <4C1B4495.1080807@redhat.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hiya Warren $Subject ? It looks like you may a little to busy to deal with this anymore, so I was wondering if you would like to pass the role over to me ? I will try to keep up the outstanding work you have done for both the LTSP Community and also the Fedora Community. - -- Gavin Spurgeon. gspurgeon at redhat.com Red Hat GLS Instructor EMEA Red Hat UK Ltd 64 Baker Street 4th Floor, London, W1U 7DF Mob: +44 7841 231160 Desk: +44 0207 009 4429 (Direct) Tel: +44 1252 362709 Fax: +44 1252 548116 Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 Directors: Michael Cunningham (USA), Brendan Lane (Ireland), Matt Parson (USA), Charlie Peters (USA) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwbRJUACgkQvp6arS3vDirzMACfXktL50/cXSd7NrGGyW20lkCA vNUAoLnurkc37ulsLsyNGd7WuaELOedL =dDTM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Fri Jun 18 21:26:06 2010 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:26:06 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you like me to Take over LTSP rpm (Fedora) Maintenance ? In-Reply-To: <4C1B4495.1080807@redhat.com> References: <4C1B4495.1080807@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hello, I'm not sure if Warren is working on this anymore. According to https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ it says: "Jan 29th, 2009: Please welcome Ryan Niebur as a new lead developer on the K12Linux team. Ryan has been one of the leaders of upstream LTSP.org development for some time now. " It doesn't mention an email for Ryan, but perhaps he's on the list(s)? Good luck -- I would very much love to have an updated LTSP+Fedora distribution! Joseph On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Gavin Spurgeon wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hiya Warren > > $Subject ? > > It looks like you may a little to busy to deal with this anymore, so > I was wondering if you would like to pass the role over to me ? > > I will try to keep up the outstanding work you have done for both the > LTSP Community and also the Fedora Community. > > - -- > Gavin Spurgeon. > gspurgeon at redhat.com > Red Hat GLS Instructor EMEA > Red Hat UK Ltd > 64 Baker Street > 4th Floor, London, W1U 7DF > Mob: ? ?+44 7841 231160 > Desk: ? +44 0207 009 4429 (Direct) > Tel: ? ?+44 1252 362709 > Fax: ? ?+44 1252 548116 > > > Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 > Directors: Michael Cunningham (USA), Brendan Lane (Ireland), Matt Parson > (USA), Charlie Peters (USA) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkwbRJUACgkQvp6arS3vDirzMACfXktL50/cXSd7NrGGyW20lkCA > vNUAoLnurkc37ulsLsyNGd7WuaELOedL > =dDTM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From dtrask at vcsvikings.org Fri Jun 18 23:01:33 2010 From: dtrask at vcsvikings.org (David Trask) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:01:33 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Register for FOSSed 2010 TODAY! It's going to be AWESOME! Message-ID: http://www.fossed.com Hey everyone! Summer is HERE! For many that means the kids are gone and it's time to recharge, refocus, and get things ready for another great school year! Or perhaps it's time for your organization to "retool" and begin thinking of new ways to deliver technology. For many of us it also means having to find creative ways to do more with less. Budgets are tight and as a result technology folks are looking for new ways to maximize their dollars. FOSSed can help! Free and Open Source Software in EDucation (hence FOSSed) can help anyone get more bang for their buck while maintaining quality instruction and programming in their school or organization. We've got many great sessions for you this year! The program is almost final, but I keep getting awesome ideas that keep making it harder to finish ;-) We'll have sessions like "Making the Switch - moving to Google Apps", "Build an Electric Fence for your Network", "Open Source Authentication using Samba/LDAP - aka linux and active directory", "Nagios", "Creating Collaborative Learning Environments", "Virtualization", "Open1to1.org", "A Teachers Toolbox", "Quick and Easy Web tools for Motivating and Enhancing Learning", "Digital Citizenship in the Elementary Grades", "Introduction to Open Source Multi-media Production (video and audio)", "Beginning Linux - learn to how easy it us to use and install!", "Whistle while you Work!", and SO MUCH MORE (I'm out of room here) ;-) These are half-day or full-day sessions where you really get a chance to be "hands-on" try things out and learn from professionals just like you who use this stuff every day! Want to learn more? You can join us at FOSSed! Get the chance to talk to others and see how they're using Open Source in their schools and classrooms. Along with the popular Google Apps sessions...there are many other sessions for teachers and techies alike that will help you learn more to enhance and transform your classroom, school, or district. FOSSed is 3 days of fantastic hands-on learning, after-hours networking, and just plain fun! Join us! July 7th - 9th at Gould Academy in Bethel, Maine. Stay on campus for just $495 which includes EVERYTHING...all meals, rooms, and the conference. Live nearby? Join us as an off-campus attendee for $455...this includes the conference and snacks/lunch. Looking for professional development or recertification credit? FOSSed offers 3.0 CEU's through the University of Southern Maine (USM) via an official transcript. See? There are so many cool things about FOSSed....you should come! FOSSed is coming very soon! So register TODAY! We want you there with us! :-) http://www.fossed.com Are you an ACTEM member? Use your professional development benefit. Find out more at ACTEM.org Have some special circumstances or need some flexibility? Let us know! We want YOU at FOSSed and will work with you to make it happen. Flexible payment options (PO, check, credit card...) and a great conference! (we can even bill you after July 1st for those using $$$ from the new fiscal year budget) Remember, July 7th is in the NEW fiscal year...so you can take advantage of that! OH! It was brought to my attention that I didn't mention the FOOD last time! Ask anyone who has been to FOSSed...the food is INCREDIBLE! You'll eat very well....snack well....and don't forget the wine and cheese reception followed by a great banquet on the second night! One more great reason to join us! Come, unwind...and join us for a great conference! Visit http://www.fossed.com for more information and to register today! Questions? Contact us at copperdoggy at gmail.com Hope to see you there! David Trask FOSSed 2010 http://www.fossed.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From monteslu at cox.net Tue Jun 29 00:15:05 2010 From: monteslu at cox.net (Luis Montes) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:15:05 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you like me to Take over LTSP rpm (Fedora) Maintenance ? In-Reply-To: <4C1B4495.1080807@redhat.com> References: <4C1B4495.1080807@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4C293B09.7070405@cox.net> I can't speak for Warren, but you've got my vote. I need to do an upgrade this summer (from fedora9) and if there's no working Fedora13 with LTSP5, I'm going to probably have to switch over to edubuntu. I don't think I can commit to much coding on this, but I'd be willing to help test new images. Thanks, Luis Gavin Spurgeon wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hiya Warren > > $Subject ? > > It looks like you may a little to busy to deal with this anymore, so > I was wondering if you would like to pass the role over to me ? > > I will try to keep up the outstanding work you have done for both the > LTSP Community and also the Fedora Community. > > - -- > Gavin Spurgeon. > gspurgeon at redhat.com > Red Hat GLS Instructor EMEA > Red Hat UK Ltd > 64 Baker Street > 4th Floor, London, W1U 7DF > Mob: +44 7841 231160 > Desk: +44 0207 009 4429 (Direct) > Tel: +44 1252 362709 > Fax: +44 1252 548116 > > > Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 > Directors: Michael Cunningham (USA), Brendan Lane (Ireland), Matt Parson > (USA), Charlie Peters (USA) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkwbRJUACgkQvp6arS3vDirzMACfXktL50/cXSd7NrGGyW20lkCA > vNUAoLnurkc37ulsLsyNGd7WuaELOedL > =dDTM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > From dtrask at vcsvikings.org Tue Jun 29 04:13:25 2010 From: dtrask at vcsvikings.org (David Trask) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:13:25 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] CEU's...come to FOSSed 2010 and get some! Register today! Message-ID: http://www.fossed.com If you're an educator like me, you have to continually engage in professional development for recertification. Many schools and organizations also require their non-teaching personnel to provide documentation of course work for professional growth. Well...FOSSed can help! Each year we team up with the folks at the University of Southern Maine (USM) to provide "official college-backed" CEU's (continuing education units) on an official transcript (from USM) that you can use for your professional development documentation. We provide 3.0 CEU's for attending sessions at FOSSed. What an awesome way to get some serious contact hours while learning and having fun! So...if you need credit...come to FOSSed! It's not too late. We have people registering every day and we hope you'll be one of them. FOSSed is next week, but there's still time to register (in fact we take registrations right up to the first day of the conference). We're flexible...if the financial arrangements might be delayed...let us know...we'll do everything we can to make special arrangements....we want YOU at FOSSed. Free and Open Source Software in EDucation (hence FOSSed) can help anyone get more bang for their buck while maintaining quality instruction and programming in their school or organization. We've got many great sessions for you this year! You can see the program under "Sessions" at http://www.fossed.com. We have half-day or full-day sessions where you really get a chance to be "hands-on" try things out and learn from professionals just like you who use this stuff every day! Want to learn more? You can join us at FOSSed! Get the chance to talk to others and see how they're using Open Source in their schools and classrooms. Along with the popular Google Apps sessions...there are many other sessions for teachers and techies alike that will help you learn more to enhance and transform your classroom, school, or district. FOSSed is 3 days of fantastic hands-on learning, after-hours networking, and just plain fun! Join us! July 7th - 9th at Gould Academy in Bethel, Maine. Stay on campus for just $495 which includes EVERYTHING...all meals, rooms, and the conference. Live nearby? Join us as an off-campus attendee for $455...this includes the conference and snacks/lunch. Looking for professional development or recertification credit? FOSSed offers 3.0 CEU's through the University of Southern Maine (USM) via an official transcript. See? There are so many cool things about FOSSed....you should come! FOSSed is coming very soon! So register TODAY! We want you there with us! :-) http://www.fossed.com Are you an ACTEM member? Use your professional development benefit. Find out more at ACTEM.org Have some special circumstances or need some flexibility? Let us know! We want YOU at FOSSed and will work with you to make it happen. Flexible payment options (PO, check, credit card...) and a great conference! (we can even bill you after July 1st for those using $$$ from the new fiscal year budget) Remember, July 7th is in the NEW fiscal year...so you can take advantage of that! The FOOD! Ask anyone who has been to FOSSed...the food is INCREDIBLE! You'll eat very well....snack well....and don't forget the wine and cheese reception followed by a great banquet on the second night! One more great reason to join us! Come, unwind...and join us for a great conference! Visit http://www.fossed.com for more information and to register today! Questions? Contact us at copperdoggy at gmail.com Hope to see you there! David Trask FOSSed 2010 http://www.fossed.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From indradg at gmail.com Tue Jun 29 05:44:18 2010 From: indradg at gmail.com (Indranil Das Gupta) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:14:18 +0530 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you like me to Take over LTSP rpm (Fedora) Maintenance ? In-Reply-To: <4C293B09.7070405@cox.net> References: <4C1B4495.1080807@redhat.com> <4C293B09.7070405@cox.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Luis Montes wrote: > I need to do an upgrade this summer (from fedora9) and if there's no working Fedora13 with LTSP5, I'm going to probably have to switch over to edubuntu. +1 -- Indranil Das Gupta Phone : +91-98300-20971 Blog ? ?: http://indradg.randomink.org/blog IRC ? ? ?: indradg on irc://irc.freenode.net Twitter : indradg -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Please exchange editable Office documents only in ODF Format. No other format is acceptable. Support Open Standards. To get a free editor supporting ODF, please visit http://www.openoffice.org/ From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Tue Jun 29 11:30:53 2010 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:30:53 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Would you like me to Take over LTSP rpm (Fedora) Maintenance ? In-Reply-To: <4C293B09.7070405@cox.net> References: <4C1B4495.1080807@redhat.com> <4C293B09.7070405@cox.net> Message-ID: Hello, I can also help with testing as I have a server and a mish-mash of thin clients that I can test a new image on. Thanks, Joseph On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Luis Montes wrote: > I can't speak for Warren, but you've got my vote. > > I need to do an upgrade this summer (from fedora9) and if there's no working > Fedora13 with LTSP5, I'm going to probably have to switch over to edubuntu. > > I don't think I can commit to much coding on this, but I'd be willing to > help test new images. > > > Thanks, > > Luis > > > > Gavin Spurgeon wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> Hiya Warren >> >> $Subject ? >> >> It looks like you may a little to busy to deal with this anymore, so >> I was wondering if you would like to pass the role over to me ? >> >> I will try to keep up the outstanding work you have done for both the >> LTSP Community and also the Fedora Community. >> >> - -- Gavin Spurgeon. >> gspurgeon at redhat.com >> Red Hat GLS Instructor EMEA >> Red Hat UK Ltd >> 64 Baker Street >> 4th Floor, London, W1U 7DF >> Mob: ? ?+44 7841 231160 >> Desk: ? +44 0207 009 4429 (Direct) >> Tel: ? ?+44 1252 362709 >> Fax: ? ?+44 1252 548116 >> >> >> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 >> Directors: Michael Cunningham (USA), Brendan Lane (Ireland), Matt Parson >> (USA), Charlie Peters (USA) >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkwbRJUACgkQvp6arS3vDirzMACfXktL50/cXSd7NrGGyW20lkCA >> vNUAoLnurkc37ulsLsyNGd7WuaELOedL >> =dDTM >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From dtrask at vcsvikings.org Tue Jun 29 19:18:56 2010 From: dtrask at vcsvikings.org (David Trask) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:18:56 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] 2 scholarships available for FOSSed 2010! Message-ID: Yup! That's right! I have 2 scholarships available for FOSSed 2010. So...here's how it's gonna' work. First come, first served. *What's included...* Your registration for FOSSed which includes the conference, housing, all meals/snacks. All you gotta' do is get there... *What's not included...* Early arrival option (if you wish to arrive the night before it'll cost you $30, but it's well worth it as you are fresh for the next morning) CEU fee (to apply for CEU's from USM you'll need to pay the $20 fee to USM via check) * What do ya' gotta' do:* First of all, if you've already registered for FOSSed, you're excluded. (sorry, but the sponsors are looking to help those who truly are unable to attend due to financial constraints) Be one of the first two people to send me an email saying "I wanna' come to FOSSed!" If you are one of the first two people, I will send you an email (as soon as I can) letting you know that you are coming to FOSSed and to go ahead and register. That's it! Send the email to copperdoggy at gmail.com with the subject *"FOSSED SCHOLARSHIP"* (this will help me keep things organized) * So...take a chance and send that email!* For more info on FOSSed...go to http://www.fossed.com David Trask FOSSed 2010 copperdoggy at gmail.com 207-956-0881 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: