From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sat Mar 6 16:22:54 2010 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:22:54 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: web browsing slowness- revisted Message-ID: <1267892574.28143.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, This is pretty much off topic,but is in fact TC related(I think). I visit several motorcycle sites/message boards. I have found two message boards that are 'UltraBB Powered" These are of course two different domains FYI. Both of these message boards REALLY hangs any TC i try and use on them,especially when PMing someone were the spell checking takes place as well as scrolling goes wild,,no control whatsoever!. For example any TC i use at home will play YouTube stuff fine. For whatever reason it appears that the UltraBB code really affects Firefox? Anyone ever run into this? I know stupid post that really doesn't seem 'logical'...:) Only thing that enters my mind is that possibly even though different domains the two domains are hosted 'on the same server' somewhere? Take Care, Barry From charlie at smbis.com Sat Mar 6 19:27:38 2010 From: charlie at smbis.com (Charlie) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:27:38 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: web browsing slowness- revisted In-Reply-To: <1267892574.28143.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1267892574.28143.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1267903658.4465.5.camel@cws1.localdomain> I had a similar problem a while back where Firefox on RHEL would blow out the x-server on certain sites. I reported it to red hat but it took them a while to get it fixed, nearly a year. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455359 On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 10:22 -0600, Barry Cisna wrote: > Hello All, > > This is pretty much off topic,but is in fact TC related(I think). I > visit several motorcycle sites/message boards. I have found two message > boards that are 'UltraBB Powered" These are of course two different > domains FYI. Both of these message boards REALLY hangs any TC i try and > use on them,especially when PMing someone were the spell checking takes > place as well as scrolling goes wild,,no control whatsoever!. For > example any TC i use at home will play YouTube stuff fine. For whatever > reason it appears that the UltraBB code really affects Firefox? Anyone > ever run into this? > I know stupid post that really doesn't seem 'logical'...:) > Only thing that enters my mind is that possibly even though different > domains the two domains are hosted 'on the same server' somewhere? > > Take Care, > Barry > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sat Mar 6 20:46:02 2010 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:46:02 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: web browsing slowness- revisted Message-ID: <1267908362.27839.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Charlie, Thanks for the bug report to look through. I should have gave better description as well. When browsing I mentioned the TC "hangs" but a better description is the TC does not actually lock up/freeze,but just becomes VERY slow. For example typing in the PM box/spell checking just typing a simple one line sentence takes about a minute to complete. Also the wild scrolling action,that I don't experience in any other sites that I have used? B From peter at scheie.homedns.org Sun Mar 7 15:46:40 2010 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:46:40 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: web browsing slowness- revisted In-Reply-To: <1267908362.27839.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1267908362.27839.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4B93CA60.8020509@scheie.homedns.org> I wonder if the sites have some sort of javascript running amok. Just as a way of teasing out more information on what is happening, try turning off javascript in FF and see what happens. Of course, depending on how they're coded, that may render the whole sites useless, but at least you'd have an idea of the direction to pursue. Peter Barry Cisna wrote: > Charlie, > > Thanks for the bug report to look through. I should have gave better > description as well. When browsing I mentioned the TC "hangs" but a > better description is the TC does not actually lock up/freeze,but just > becomes VERY slow. For example typing in the PM box/spell checking just > typing a simple one line sentence takes about a minute to complete. Also > the wild scrolling action,that I don't experience in any other sites > that I have used? > > B > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From surdus.law at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 16:41:41 2010 From: surdus.law at gmail.com (Michael Izak) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:41:41 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 Message-ID: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> Hello. I tried the K12linux. It is a bowderlized version of Fedora 10. I cannot get network shares or dial up modem and other stuff. I need the full Fedora 10 packages AND the LTSP 5 stuff. I am not a Linux geek. I cannot find LTSP 5 downloads anywhere. I have a Fedora 10 DVD. How do I restore the K12linux with packages from the Fedora 10 DVD? I keep getting errors when I try to install the .rar packages. MJI -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at thealmquists.net Tue Mar 9 17:50:33 2010 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Almquist Burke) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:50:33 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide This explains how to get LTSP working on any version of Fedora 10 or higher. On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Michael Izak wrote: > Hello. I tried the K12linux. It is a bowderlized version of Fedora > 10. I cannot get network shares or dial up modem and other stuff. > I need the full Fedora 10 packages AND the LTSP 5 stuff. I am not > a Linux geek. I cannot find LTSP 5 downloads anywhere. I have a > Fedora 10 DVD. How do I restore the K12linux with packages from > the Fedora 10 DVD? I keep getting errors when I try to install > the .rar packages. > > MJI > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkuWimkACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HdzwCeIpReqmrkYbAuX/NcY0KQi+jC PisAnR/NyHqaemB5e6toYjkqJ21O584h =70cY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From surdus.law at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 18:48:23 2010 From: surdus.law at gmail.com (Michael Izak) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:48:23 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> Message-ID: <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> Thank you. Where do I find the ltsp-server and the ltsp-vmclient software packages to download? Can you provide me the link? MJI On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Almquist Burke wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide > This explains how to get LTSP working on any version of Fedora 10 or > higher. > > > On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Michael Izak wrote: > > Hello. I tried the K12linux. It is a bowderlized version of Fedora 10. I >> cannot get network shares or dial up modem and other stuff. I need the full >> Fedora 10 packages AND the LTSP 5 stuff. I am not a Linux geek. I cannot >> find LTSP 5 downloads anywhere. I have a Fedora 10 DVD. How do I restore >> the K12linux with packages from the Fedora 10 DVD? I keep getting errors >> when I try to install the .rar packages. >> >> MJI >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkuWimkACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HdzwCeIpReqmrkYbAuX/NcY0KQi+jC > PisAnR/NyHqaemB5e6toYjkqJ21O584h > =70cY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at thealmquists.net Tue Mar 9 19:42:46 2010 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Almquist Burke) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:42:46 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The software installer should go and get these for you automatically from the software repository (assuming you have a network connection). Yum is the software updating/installation tool. It can be run from the terminal as long as you have root(administrator) privileges. The software updater and installer GUI tools are frontends for Yum and the RPM packages it uses to install the software. I don't know where you got the RAR files from. The bolded instructions on the page describe the terminal commands to use. You will probably need to log as another user, open terminal and enter "su", followed by the root password. Then you can run those YUM commands. On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Michael Izak wrote: > Thank you. Where do I find the ltsp-server and the ltsp-vmclient > software packages to download? Can you provide me the link? > > MJI > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Almquist Burke > wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide > This explains how to get LTSP working on any version of Fedora 10 > or higher. > > > On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Michael Izak wrote: > > Hello. I tried the K12linux. It is a bowderlized version of Fedora > 10. I cannot get network shares or dial up modem and other stuff. > I need the full Fedora 10 packages AND the LTSP 5 stuff. I am not > a Linux geek. I cannot find LTSP 5 downloads anywhere. I have a > Fedora 10 DVD. How do I restore the K12linux with packages from > the Fedora 10 DVD? I keep getting errors when I try to install > the .rar packages. > > MJI > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkuWimkACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HdzwCeIpReqmrkYbAuX/NcY0KQi+jC > PisAnR/NyHqaemB5e6toYjkqJ21O584h > =70cY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkuWpLYACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HqswCfcC1e6rPSB239Nk/MmdCkKpHc f0AAoIYATQScRhn1Nw180pIQ6KPW2kFr =Vsvw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From surdus.law at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 22:55:39 2010 From: surdus.law at gmail.com (Michael Izak) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:55:39 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> Message-ID: <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> Hello. I don't have a network connection to the outside. You are right, the fedora 10 DVD files are RPM not RAR. My mistake. Are you saying the LTSP 5 package is not part of the Fedora 10 full package and that I would have to access some online software repository for the LTSP 5 package? I don't understand why I can't download the LTSP 5 package and install them. Otherwise I would have to go back to Fedora 6 and LTSP 4 because that's the last full Fedora package there is. I don't even understand the genius behind the act K12linux was deliberately bowderlized with barely the minimum Fedora 10 stuff. Is there another Linux brand that offers BOTH the full package and LTSP 5? ubuntu? What's the download link? MJI On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Almquist Burke wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > The software installer should go and get these for you automatically from > the software repository (assuming you have a network connection). Yum is the > software updating/installation tool. It can be run from the terminal as long > as you have root(administrator) privileges. The software updater and > installer GUI tools are frontends for Yum and the RPM packages it uses to > install the software. I don't know where you got the RAR files from. > The bolded instructions on the page describe the terminal commands to use. > You will probably need to log as another user, open terminal and enter "su", > followed by the root password. Then you can run those YUM commands. > > > On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Michael Izak wrote: > > Thank you. Where do I find the ltsp-server and the ltsp-vmclient software >> packages to download? Can you provide me the link? >> >> MJI >> >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Almquist Burke >> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >> This explains how to get LTSP working on any version of Fedora 10 or >> higher. >> >> >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Michael Izak wrote: >> >> Hello. I tried the K12linux. It is a bowderlized version of Fedora 10. I >> cannot get network shares or dial up modem and other stuff. I need the full >> Fedora 10 packages AND the LTSP 5 stuff. I am not a Linux geek. I cannot >> find LTSP 5 downloads anywhere. I have a Fedora 10 DVD. How do I restore >> the K12linux with packages from the Fedora 10 DVD? I keep getting errors >> when I try to install the .rar packages. >> >> MJI >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkuWimkACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HdzwCeIpReqmrkYbAuX/NcY0KQi+jC >> PisAnR/NyHqaemB5e6toYjkqJ21O584h >> =70cY >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkuWpLYACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HqswCfcC1e6rPSB239Nk/MmdCkKpHc > f0AAoIYATQScRhn1Nw180pIQ6KPW2kFr > =Vsvw > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From microman at cmosnetworks.com Wed Mar 10 03:30:18 2010 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:30:18 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B97124A.8030602@cmosnetworks.com> How about just using K12LTSP 5.0EL? This one is the most stable and "just works" without problem. --TP Michael Izak wrote: > Hello. I don't have a network connection to the outside. You are > right, the fedora 10 DVD files are RPM not RAR. My mistake. > > Are you saying the LTSP 5 package is not part of the Fedora 10 full > package and that I would have to access some online software > repository for the LTSP 5 package? I don't understand why I can't > download the LTSP 5 package and install them. > > Otherwise I would have to go back to Fedora 6 and LTSP 4 because > that's the last full Fedora package there is. I don't even > understand the genius behind the act K12linux was deliberately > bowderlized with barely the minimum Fedora 10 stuff. > > Is there another Linux brand that offers BOTH the full package and > LTSP 5? ubuntu? What's the download link? > > MJI > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Almquist Burke > > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > The software installer should go and get these for you > automatically from the software repository (assuming you have a > network connection). Yum is the software updating/installation > tool. It can be run from the terminal as long as you have > root(administrator) privileges. The software updater and installer > GUI tools are frontends for Yum and the RPM packages it uses to > install the software. I don't know where you got the RAR files from. > The bolded instructions on the page describe the terminal commands > to use. You will probably need to log as another user, open > terminal and enter "su", followed by the root password. Then you > can run those YUM commands. > > > On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Michael Izak wrote: > > Thank you. Where do I find the ltsp-server and the > ltsp-vmclient software packages to download? Can you provide > me the link? > > MJI > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Almquist Burke > > wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide > This explains how to get LTSP working on any version of Fedora > 10 or higher. > > > On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Michael Izak wrote: > > Hello. I tried the K12linux. It is a bowderlized version of > Fedora 10. I cannot get network shares or dial up modem and > other stuff. I need the full Fedora 10 packages AND the LTSP 5 > stuff. I am not a Linux geek. I cannot find LTSP 5 downloads > anywhere. I have a Fedora 10 DVD. How do I restore the > K12linux with packages from the Fedora 10 DVD? I keep getting > errors when I try to install the .rar packages. > > MJI > _______________________________________________ > From surdus.law at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 04:05:09 2010 From: surdus.law at gmail.com (Michael Izak) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:05:09 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <4B97124A.8030602@cmosnetworks.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> <4B97124A.8030602@cmosnetworks.com> Message-ID: <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> Now I am confused. And getting frustrated. I explained this before. I tried K12Linux (Fedora 10 with LTSP 5) and it is a bowderlized version of Fedora 10. It does not let you create network shares (samba) or anything much else because much of the necessary packages are missing. (or, are they? If so, point them out where they are? ) You mention K12LTSP 5.0EL. It is said to be part of Fedora 9 but I cannot find it anywhere. I am not a Linux geek and I want to create a simple terminal server setup with the full packages from Fedora 10 and not some cut up shortened version of Fedora 10 that is called K12Linux/K12LTSP whatever. I don't understand why LTSP 5 software cannot be found to be downloaded? I don't understand why LTSP 5 can't be RPM'd into Fedora 10 or 12? And all of you keep pointing me back to some K12Linux which I keep saying it does not contain the full version of Fedora 10? There's a big difference between the older verision of K12Linux (Fedora 6 LTSP 4) and your current K12Linux (Fedora 10 LTSP 5). The older version is the full Fedora 6 with all the packages and the current version is not even half of the Fedora 10 package. Can anybody help me by explaining the genius thinking behind selling a K12Linux package whose elevator does not go all the way to the top or explain to me where to FIND a LTSP 5 package and download it and install it on a full packaged Fedora 10. MJI On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Terrell Prude' Jr. < microman at cmosnetworks.com> wrote: > How about just using K12LTSP 5.0EL? This one is the most stable and "just > works" without problem. > > --TP > > Michael Izak wrote: > >> Hello. I don't have a network connection to the outside. You are right, >> the fedora 10 DVD files are RPM not RAR. My mistake. >> Are you saying the LTSP 5 package is not part of the Fedora 10 full >> package and that I would have to access some online software repository for >> the LTSP 5 package? I don't understand why I can't download the LTSP 5 >> package and install them. >> Otherwise I would have to go back to Fedora 6 and LTSP 4 because that's >> the last full Fedora package there is. I don't even understand the genius >> behind the act K12linux was deliberately bowderlized with barely the minimum >> Fedora 10 stuff. >> Is there another Linux brand that offers BOTH the full package and LTSP 5? >> ubuntu? What's the download link? >> >> MJI >> >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Almquist Burke > burke at thealmquists.net>> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> The software installer should go and get these for you >> automatically from the software repository (assuming you have a >> network connection). Yum is the software updating/installation >> tool. It can be run from the terminal as long as you have >> root(administrator) privileges. The software updater and installer >> GUI tools are frontends for Yum and the RPM packages it uses to >> install the software. I don't know where you got the RAR files from. >> The bolded instructions on the page describe the terminal commands >> to use. You will probably need to log as another user, open >> terminal and enter "su", followed by the root password. Then you >> can run those YUM commands. >> >> >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Michael Izak wrote: >> >> Thank you. Where do I find the ltsp-server and the >> ltsp-vmclient software packages to download? Can you provide >> me the link? >> >> MJI >> >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Almquist Burke >> > wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide >> This explains how to get LTSP working on any version of Fedora >> 10 or higher. >> >> >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Michael Izak wrote: >> >> Hello. I tried the K12linux. It is a bowderlized version of >> Fedora 10. I cannot get network shares or dial up modem and >> other stuff. I need the full Fedora 10 packages AND the LTSP 5 >> stuff. I am not a Linux geek. I cannot find LTSP 5 downloads >> anywhere. I have a Fedora 10 DVD. How do I restore the >> K12linux with packages from the Fedora 10 DVD? I keep getting >> errors when I try to install the .rar packages. >> >> MJI >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lesmikesell at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 04:39:28 2010 From: lesmikesell at gmail.com (Les Mikesell) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:39:28 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> <4B97124A.8030602@cmosnetworks.com> <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B972280.3010206@gmail.com> Michael Izak wrote: > Now I am confused. And getting frustrated. > > I explained this before. > > I tried K12Linux (Fedora 10 with LTSP 5) and it is a bowderlized version > of Fedora 10. It does not let you create network shares (samba) or > anything much else because much of the necessary packages are missing. > (or, are they? If so, point them out where they are? ) > > You mention K12LTSP 5.0EL. It is said to be part of Fedora 9 but I > cannot find it anywhere. K12LTSP5EL is a CentOS based version with LTSP4. It is aging, but pretty much self-contained, if you really have to have that. http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/DownLoad > I am not a Linux geek and I want to create a simple terminal server > setup with the full packages from Fedora 10 and not some cut up > shortened version of Fedora 10 that is called K12Linux/K12LTSP whatever. > > I don't understand why LTSP 5 software cannot be found to be > downloaded? I don't understand why LTSP 5 can't be RPM'd into Fedora 10 > or 12? And all of you keep pointing me back to some K12Linux which I > keep saying it does not contain the full version of Fedora 10? > > There's a big difference between the older verision of K12Linux (Fedora > 6 LTSP 4) and your current K12Linux (Fedora 10 LTSP 5). The older > version is the full Fedora 6 with all the packages and the current > version is not even half of the Fedora 10 package. > > Can anybody help me by explaining the genius thinking behind selling a > K12Linux package whose elevator does not go all the way to the top or > explain to me where to FIND a LTSP 5 package and download it and install > it on a full packaged Fedora 10. Is it really not possible to connect the machine to the internet (or through a proxy) after the install and simply 'yum install ...' whatever packages you want? Fedora is a pretty fast-changing distribution anyway and you'll probably want to keep it up to date with 'yum update' too. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com From fluhmann at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 04:58:46 2010 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 22:58:46 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <4B972280.3010206@gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> <4B97124A.8030602@cmosnetworks.com> <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> <4B972280.3010206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e1003092058u41477622p74c02c12ad9c545e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Michael Izak wrote: > >> Now I am confused. And getting frustrated. >> >> I explained this before. >> I tried K12Linux (Fedora 10 with LTSP 5) and it is a bowderlized version >> of Fedora 10. It does not let you create network shares (samba) or anything >> much else because much of the necessary packages are missing. (or, are they? >> If so, point them out where they are? ) >> >> You mention K12LTSP 5.0EL. It is said to be part of Fedora 9 but I cannot >> find it anywhere. >> > > K12LTSP5EL is a CentOS based version with LTSP4. It is aging, but pretty > much self-contained, if you really have to have that. > http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/DownLoad > > > I am not a Linux geek and I want to create a simple terminal server setup >> with the full packages from Fedora 10 and not some cut up shortened version >> of Fedora 10 that is called K12Linux/K12LTSP whatever. >> >> I don't understand why LTSP 5 software cannot be found to be downloaded? >> I don't understand why LTSP 5 can't be RPM'd into Fedora 10 or 12? And all >> of you keep pointing me back to some K12Linux which I keep saying it does >> not contain the full version of Fedora 10? >> There's a big difference between the older verision of K12Linux (Fedora 6 >> LTSP 4) and your current K12Linux (Fedora 10 LTSP 5). The older version is >> the full Fedora 6 with all the packages and the current version is not even >> half of the Fedora 10 package. >> Can anybody help me by explaining the genius thinking behind selling a >> K12Linux package whose elevator does not go all the way to the top or >> explain to me where to FIND a LTSP 5 package and download it and install it >> on a full packaged Fedora 10. >> > > Is it really not possible to connect the machine to the internet (or > through a proxy) after the install and simply 'yum install ...' whatever > packages you want? Fedora is a pretty fast-changing distribution anyway and > you'll probably want to keep it up to date with 'yum update' too. If it helps, here is their page on installing K12Linux on an 'existing' Fedora server - https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide If your network connection is indeed broken, I'd say either re-install Fedora (if that's your preferred distro) and make sure that everything is working properly or get the networking fixed on the existing install, then follow the directions from the link to install K12Linux. OR, since you mentioned Ubuntu (and I'm an Ubuntu user), you might check out their page on LTSP - http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/technologies/ltsp. Quick install from the alternate CD. Regarding the network issue, sounds like it's a separate problem from LTSP. 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URL: From burke at thealmquists.net Wed Mar 10 05:36:48 2010 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Almquist Burke) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:36:48 -0600 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> <4B97124A.8030602@cmosnetworks.com> <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Michael Izak wrote: > Now I am confused. And getting frustrated. > > I explained this before. > > I tried K12Linux (Fedora 10 with LTSP 5) and it is a bowderlized > version of Fedora 10. It does not let you create network shares > (samba) or anything much else because much of the necessary > packages are missing. (or, are they? If so, point them out where > they are? ) I am not a Linux geek and I want to create a simple > terminal server setup with the full packages from Fedora 10 and not > some cut up shortened version of Fedora 10 that is called K12Linux/ > K12LTSP whatever. K12Linux is really just a Fedora install CD that installs different stuff by default, it adds the LTSP 5 for instance. To make room to include the LTSP stuff on the installer CD, they may have left off some other stuff, assuming you could install it later using the internet and the software installer tool. Some of it may even still be in the K12Linux install CD, it may just have not been installed. I can't speak for what is and is not on each CD or what is installed on each by default, since I'm running Fedora 12 now. > You mention K12LTSP 5.0EL. It is said to be part of Fedora 9 but I > cannot find it anywhere. K12LTSP 5.0EL is based on CentOS and LTSP 4. 5.0EL is the version of CentOS, not LTSP. > I don't understand why LTSP 5 software cannot be found to be > downloaded? I don't understand why LTSP 5 can't be RPM'd into > Fedora 10 or 12? And all of you keep pointing me back to some > K12Linux which I keep saying it does not contain the full version > of Fedora 10? LTSP isn't really just one program, it's a large group of programs that work together. So it's not that is cannot be downloaded, it's just that downloading and installing all the programs individually would be a whole lot of work. That's why the K12Linux install cd was created, so it would all be installed by default, and why the yum software installer automatically goes and gets all the software that LTSP depends on when you ask to install LTSP on a plain Fedora Linux installation. > Can anybody help me by explaining the genius thinking behind > selling a K12Linux package whose elevator does not go all the way > to the top or explain to me where to FIND a LTSP 5 package and > download it and install it on a full packaged Fedora 10. I think they were trying to save space on the installer CD. I don't know the reasoning for that decision, I would guess it could be any number of things like making it fit on one disk, shrinking the size of the downloads (so people didn't download and install a bunch of stuff they didn't need), and they probably assumed everyone had internet access and could add any missing stuff later on using yum (and/or it's GUI). You are correct that these decisions have made assembling an LTSP server on Fedora far more difficult if it is not connected to a good internet connection. For what it's worth, samba (and some other software) might be on the K12Linux install CD, as i said, it just may not have been installed by default. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkuXL/AACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HTZgCfZAbV2awxPdya6yNygInSB4xs H2kAnAr2q7CWzbq3spqRb7sj4BHPysvg =0APT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Wed Mar 10 17:56:30 2010 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:56:30 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <994441ae1003100956g55e944b6ne8ae53e8b88a19fb@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Michael Izak wrote: > Are you saying the LTSP 5 package is not part of the Fedora 10 full package > and that I would have to access some online software repository for the LTSP > 5 package?? I don't understand why I can't download the LTSP 5 package and > install them. You can download them. Most people do this online using a package management utility like yum or the various PackageKit bits. You can download the i386 RPM directly here: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/ltsp-server-5.1.34-2.fc10.i386.rpm Or the x86_64 RPM here: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/ltsp-server-5.1.34-2.fc10.x86_64.rpm They may have package dependencies that would also need to be downloaded by hand if you insist on not using a package manager. If you can install into Fedora 10 online, just: yum install ltsp-server and consult the install guide here: https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide > Otherwise I would have to go back to Fedora 6 and LTSP 4 because that's the > last full Fedora package there is.?? I don't even understand the genius > behind the act K12linux was deliberately bowderlized with barely the minimum > Fedora 10 stuff. No need to be belligerent here; people are trying to be helpful. The Fedora 10 K12Linux is a Live CD, and download size was kept to a minimum. It typical for Fedora to not include everything but have various "spins" that include different sets of packages. Anything from the Fedora 10 distribution can be added after the fact on a F10 K12Linux install using yum or the Add/Remove Software tool described by others. > Is there another Linux brand that offers BOTH the full package and LTSP 5? > ubuntu?? What's the download link? What is this "full package" you're looking for? Most distributions don't include the full scope of available packages in their default install due to space constraints on CD/DVD media. -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From microman at cmosnetworks.com Thu Mar 11 00:15:16 2010 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:15:16 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> <4B97124A.8030602@cmosnetworks.com> <9c14edd71003092005o7dca29day14d7e7c61bd12a70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B983614.1020906@cmosnetworks.com> Michael Izak wrote: > Now I am confused. And getting frustrated. > > I explained this before. Well, EXCUUUUUUSE US! > > I tried K12Linux (Fedora 10 with LTSP 5) and it is a bowderlized > version of Fedora 10. It does not let you create network shares > (samba) or anything much else because much of the necessary packages > are missing. (or, are they? If so, point them out where they are? ) > > You mention K12LTSP 5.0EL. It is said to be part of Fedora 9 but I > cannot find it anywhere. No, it's not part of Fedora 9 nor even "said to be" part of Fedora 9. It's K12LTSP 5.0EL, based on CentOS 5. Here's the link. http://k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/DownLoad > > I am not a Linux geek and I want to create a simple terminal server > setup with the full packages from Fedora 10 and not some cut up > shortened version of Fedora 10 that is called K12Linux/K12LTSP whatever. Man, you obviously need to swallow a very large Chill Pill. Don't act like the folks on this forum somehow "owe" you something. Instead, sit down, RELAX, learn about terminal servers, and understand that learning ANYTHING new takes some time. I imagine you didn't learn how to drive in one day, did you? I imagine you didn't learn Microsoft Windows or Apple Mac OS or Whatever Else You Use in a day, did you? Of course not--neither did anyone else! It takes time. > > I don't understand why LTSP 5 software cannot be found to be > downloaded? I don't understand why LTSP 5 can't be RPM'd into Fedora > 10 or 12? And all of you keep pointing me back to some K12Linux which > I keep saying it does not contain the full version of Fedora 10? It can, and it is. Learn the "yum" command. It is your friend. http://linux.die.net/man/8/yum > > There's a big difference between the older verision of K12Linux > (Fedora 6 LTSP 4) and your current K12Linux (Fedora 10 LTSP 5). The > older version is the full Fedora 6 with all the packages and the > current version is not even half of the Fedora 10 package. That's true, there is. Fedora 6 isn't even supported anymore and hasn't been for over two years. > > Can anybody help me by explaining the genius thinking behind selling a > K12Linux package whose elevator does not go all the way to the top or > explain to me where to FIND a LTSP 5 package and download it and > install it on a full packaged Fedora 10. K12Linux or any other software package doesn't have elevators. Buildings do. Geez.... From surdus.law at gmail.com Thu Mar 11 00:54:07 2010 From: surdus.law at gmail.com (Michael Izak) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:54:07 -0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Install packages from full Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <994441ae1003100956g55e944b6ne8ae53e8b88a19fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c14edd71003090841j7c7f0a86na6c8f1c303da1567@mail.gmail.com> <9AD6D74B-5238-4785-8B21-4B93D0479B91@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091048v53c211b0v6dc03595b6f2cf79@mail.gmail.com> <8DD12270-9C4A-4276-B803-11A76366FECC@thealmquists.net> <9c14edd71003091455r2f92b17dw404b2d611988b71b@mail.gmail.com> <994441ae1003100956g55e944b6ne8ae53e8b88a19fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c14edd71003101654r6480b11as129854a553ab8c5c@mail.gmail.com> Thank you. I will have to go bum a fast internet connection someplace and download these various suggested software packages and try them out. I will get back to this list in a few days and report my results. MJI On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Dan Young wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Michael Izak wrote: > > Are you saying the LTSP 5 package is not part of the Fedora 10 full > package > > and that I would have to access some online software repository for the > LTSP > > 5 package? I don't understand why I can't download the LTSP 5 package > and > > install them. > > You can download them. Most people do this online using a package > management utility like yum or the various PackageKit bits. You can > download the i386 RPM directly here: > > http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/ltsp-server-5.1.34-2.fc10.i386.rpm > > Or the x86_64 RPM here: > > http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/ltsp-server-5.1.34-2.fc10.x86_64.rpm > > They may have package dependencies that would also need to be > downloaded by hand if you insist on not using a package manager. > > If you can install into Fedora 10 online, just: > > yum install ltsp-server > > and consult the install guide here: > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide > > > Otherwise I would have to go back to Fedora 6 and LTSP 4 because that's > the > > last full Fedora package there is. I don't even understand the genius > > behind the act K12linux was deliberately bowderlized with barely the > minimum > > Fedora 10 stuff. > > No need to be belligerent here; people are trying to be helpful. > > The Fedora 10 K12Linux is a Live CD, and download size was kept to a > minimum. It typical for Fedora to not include everything but have > various "spins" that include different sets of packages. Anything from > the Fedora 10 distribution can be added after the fact on a F10 > K12Linux install using yum or the Add/Remove Software tool described > by others. > > > Is there another Linux brand that offers BOTH the full package and LTSP > 5? > > ubuntu? What's the download link? > > What is this "full package" you're looking for? Most distributions > don't include the full scope of available packages in their default > install due to space constraints on CD/DVD media. > > -- > Dan Young > Multnomah ESD - Technology Services > 503-257-1562 > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brcisna at eazylivin.net Wed Mar 17 23:36:58 2010 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:36:58 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] OT: web browsing slowness- revisted Message-ID: <1268869018.25893.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, Wanted to add a little more to what has already been discussed. I would doubt this will really do any good,,,but,, I am thinking what Peter mentioned into the slowness web browsing, having something to do with javascript does seem to be a part of the slowness problem. I have found that when typing a message in Facebook,,,,which does a " popup box" to type into,,the typing delay is just unacceptably slow! I don't think it is exactly the spell checking part as spell checking works good in most apps that does not have this extra 'popup box' scenario. For example when typing a message in these mentioned popup boxes,,,The TC can not even switch between web pages until the "typed keys "have caught up". It uses that much resource(of who knows what?), is what I am trying to say,,I guess...:) Kind of the scenario was it the chicken or the egg first:) Take Care, Barry From julius at turtle.com Thu Mar 18 20:05:17 2010 From: julius at turtle.com (Julius Szelagiewicz) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] Vncserver doesn't serve Message-ID: Dear Folks, I've run into a problem with VNC server on my new Centos5.4 installation - clients can't connect, even to localhost. I've done everything the same as in older installs, I've compared the settings with older servers, I've googled, all to no avail - I get: [julius at linlinux ~]$ vncviewer localhost vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused Unable to connect to VNC server I did all the standard "enable" changes to xfs config and gdm config files. Any ideas? julius From peter at scheie.homedns.org Fri Mar 19 00:11:18 2010 From: peter at scheie.homedns.org (Peter Scheie) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:11:18 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Vncserver doesn't serve In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BA2C126.5080509@scheie.homedns.org> How is the VNC server being launched? Via xinetd? Are you certain the server process is running? Is port 5900 et al open in iptables? If you run nmap against the server does it find something listening on port 5900? Peter Julius Szelagiewicz wrote: > Dear Folks, > I've run into a problem with VNC server on my new Centos5.4 > installation - clients can't connect, even to localhost. I've done > everything the same as in older installs, I've compared the settings with > older servers, I've googled, all to no avail - I get: > > [julius at linlinux ~]$ vncviewer localhost > vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused > Unable to connect to VNC server > > I did all the standard "enable" changes to xfs config and gdm config > files. > > Any ideas? > julius > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sat Mar 20 16:07:49 2010 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry Cisna) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:07:49 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Web Site hangs Message-ID: <1269101269.6954.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello All, This is more a less a follow up to my post of several days ago. Wanting to know if some people here could try the following URL and see if it hangs the TC(s), same as it does mine. This is a simple message board site,,but it seems there is something related to a few message board sites I use for obtaining info for troubleshooting/fixes for various hardware problems of all types. Seems strange that the sites that hangs the TC the worst is sites that are mostly simple text? ,,, The following URL makes my TC(s) scroll almost uncontrollably,and very slow!... You can click around to different posts here as well. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74422 Thanks, Barry From dahopkins429 at gmail.com Tue Mar 23 15:48:35 2010 From: dahopkins429 at gmail.com (David Hopkins) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:48:35 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] reset/force all backgrounds to fixed background Message-ID: Is there a way to force backgrounds to all be the same for everyone on login? has to be but I'm not good enough to know how to do so. Thanks! Dave Hopkins Newark Charter School From dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us Tue Mar 23 17:20:08 2010 From: dyoung at mesd.k12.or.us (Dan Young) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:20:08 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] reset/force all backgrounds to fixed background In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <994441ae1003231020w1589bc29wd6c27358d5b915ca@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:48 AM, David Hopkins wrote: > Is there a way to force backgrounds to all be the same for everyone on > login? ?has to be but I'm not good enough to know how to do so. This should set a mandatory desktop image. Change the path to the image of your choice. As root: gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory \ --type string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename \ "/usr/share/backgrounds/default.png" -- Dan Young Multnomah ESD - Technology Services 503-257-1562 From ssh at tranquility.net Sun Mar 28 23:17:12 2010 From: ssh at tranquility.net (Scott S.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:17:12 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Yum transaction hangs-Centos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4BAFE378.7070509@tranquility.net> I have a Centos LTSP install that is my home/test bed. I have used LTSP for a long time, I chose the Centos variant for my home use, because at the time I only had dialup. Upgrades were a matter of hauling the server to someplace with a fast connect. I haven't done that for almost a year, and just got DSL at home. Gleeful at the prospect of easily updating, I am running into failed yum transactions. I noticed this a while back when I tried to update cups. It suggested I run yum-complete-transacton, which also just hung. That process borked cups, but I could put it back from a backup easily. I ran 'yum clean all' with no change. In googling the problem I could see that this can be caused by hung nfs mounts. I have an nfs mount (that has been working fine), but i unmount -f it just in case. The kernel is 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 The problem is happening either with the command line yum or Yumex. Yumex's plugins are fastestmirror and priorities. While I have used other 3rd party repos over the years (Adobe, rpmforge, livna, etc), my current repos are: CentOS-5- Updates CentOS-5-Extras CentOS-5 Addons CentOS-5-Base k12ltsp Suggestions? TIA-Scott S. From ssh at tranquility.net Mon Mar 29 00:34:40 2010 From: ssh at tranquility.net (Scott S.) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:34:40 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] Yum transaction hangs-Centos-SOLVED In-Reply-To: <4BAFE378.7070509@tranquility.net> References: <4BAFE378.7070509@tranquility.net> Message-ID: <4BAFF5A0.2040109@tranquility.net> I am answering my own question here, command line yum and Yumex seem to be working now. I downloaded the RPM for a newer cups, tired of always having to restore the old one from backup. Manually running rpm -Uvh gave me a clue that something was amiss in /var/lib/rpm. Unfortunately now (an hour and many commands later) the exact message that gave me the hint has scrolled longer than my bash history. There were four __db.00x files there, with dates of last January. I deleted them and everything seems to be working fine now. To condense an hour of dabbling, running rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* as root was what fixed it for me. On to the updates... thx-Scott S Scott S. wrote: > I have a Centos LTSP install that is my home/test bed. I have used LTSP > for a long time, I chose the Centos variant for my home use, because at > the time I only had dialup. Upgrades were a matter of hauling the server > to someplace with a fast connect. > > I haven't done that for almost a year, and just got DSL at home. Gleeful > at the prospect of easily updating, I am running into failed yum > transactions. I noticed this a while back when I tried to update cups. > It suggested I run yum-complete-transacton, which also just hung. That > process borked cups, but I could put it back from a backup easily. > > I ran 'yum clean all' with no change. > > In googling the problem I could see that this can be caused by hung nfs > mounts. I have an nfs mount (that has been working fine), but i unmount > -f it just in case. > > The kernel is 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 > > The problem is happening either with the command line yum or Yumex. > Yumex's plugins are fastestmirror and priorities. > > While I have used other 3rd party repos over the years (Adobe, rpmforge, > livna, etc), my current repos are: > CentOS-5- Updates > CentOS-5-Extras > CentOS-5 Addons > CentOS-5-Base > k12ltsp > > Suggestions? > TIA-Scott S. > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From odin at gnuskole.no Wed Mar 31 18:34:35 2010 From: odin at gnuskole.no (=?UTF-8?Q?Odin_N=C3=B8sen?=) Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:34:35 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] Fresh install of F12 and problems with NBD In-Reply-To: <994441ae0912020953p2f10eed6jb9f22d8fe7577edb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1259775765.22126.121.camel@buran.hhp.hhprep.org> <994441ae0912020953p2f10eed6jb9f22d8fe7577edb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100331183000.M50328@gnuskole.no> I've just made a fresh install of F12 w/updates with LTSP, and I'm using NBD instead of the NFS. I've used this setup in F11 with no problems. Now the LTSP-client doesn't load lts.conf from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 and I can't log on. The lts.conf-file in /etc/lts.conf in the client stays the same as in the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf If I use NFS - then there is no problem. And NBD -works- if I use the -old- F11-kernel in the pxe-boot. NBD just doesn't work with the updated F12 (i686) kernel - and there is no error messages in the log-files in the ltsp-client (not that I have found). Please help! Odin