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Re: [K12OSN] New Building's LTSP Server -- NEW WRINKLE

Agreed! The testing of proposed apps is vital. TuxMath is fantastic for all school ages but it's a serious bandwidth hog. ditto for TuxType (both are raw pixmaps at full screen resolution running 30 fps over a network connection! Poor client video performance can impact these as well as resource starvation on the server.)

A major factor is LTSP servers is RAM. There's no such thing as too much RAM!

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Terrell Prude' Jr. <microman cmosnetworks com> wrote:
Depends on which apps you're running. A few years back before all the EDU Web sites started infecting themselves with Adobe Flash, I'd have said HECK YEAH! For the standard office-type stuff (OpenOffice.org, programming classes, "normal" Web surfing, etc.), any of those machines would be great. Also, for stuff like TuxType/Math, ChildsPlay, and similar games, you're golden with such servers.

OTOH, if you're talking about doing streaming multimedia, and *especially* Adobe Flash, you might need something a bit beefier, CPU-wise. The ProLiant DL580 G3 is a Pentium-4 architecture, which of course is not as fast as the "Core 2" architecture, clock for clock. The same applies for the SuperMicro P4DP8-G2 motherboards. Both of these motherboards have Gigabit Ethernet, which is very important.

It's worth it to try a server and see. What you could do is try a pilot test with, say, 5 thin clients, then bump up to 10, and see how things go. With Gigabit Ethernet, if you're doing a class full of TuxType or TuxMath sessions, understand that you'll get about 14 client sessions before you saturate the Gig-E link. Be sure to do multiple types of tests with whatever the kids are expected to be doing. If they don't have enough oomph, then they'd likely make great file/print/Web/etc. servers.

Depending on your thin clients, K12LTSP 5.0EL might be a very good choice at this point, since it's battle tested and proven over several years and has relatively low server CPU requirements.


Joseph Bishay wrote:
Hello everyone,

I hope you are all doing well and had an enjoyable long weekend.

A few weeks back I received some excellent advice with regards to
setting up a new LTSP network in our new elementary school building.
I had already sourced out the parts and was just about to order them
when a donation arrived at my door!  I received 5 servers with the
following specifications:

1) One Proliant DL580 G3 4U rackmount server (2 Dual-Xeon (4 threads
total) running at 3 Ghz.
2) FOUR Super p4DP8-G2 2U rackmount servers (Each has 2 Dual-core Xeon
(4 threads total) running at 2.40 Ghz, 512 KB cache, 4 GB RAM (max is
64 GB) with Adaptec 2010s RAID controller and hot-swappable drives.

So I wanted to mention these machines to see if I can utilize them for
our LTSP network if possible, or should I stick with my original plan
which was using another machine that we have:

Intel i5 with 12 GB RAM, PCI-E SSD boot drive, Raid 1 SATA drives for /home

Granted the newly donated machines are all server-grade, with
redundant power supplies, etc as compared to the i5 which is a custom
desktop build.

We need to power about 65 thin clients in the new building -- and for
many in the building this will be the first foray into Linux (which
they are nervous about) so I want the setup to wow them.

Thanks very much!


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