[K12OSN] $600 Pledged Re: Plans for K12Linux EL6 and Future Fedora
warren at togami.com
Fri May 20 13:08:39 UTC 2011
On 05/12/2011 05:36 AM, Gavin Spurgeon wrote:
> I am sure that I/we/others could do the same with the current upstream
> code on F14, F15 or even EL6/CentOS/SL6.
> I have a week of down time from my day-2-day job coming very soon, so
> would have no issue trying get a very basic current upstream version
> built and packaged (.rpm) ready for people to test, I had loads of
> people contact me about testing the .rpm's I built for F13 and loads of
> feedback for users who did play with the packages on both F13& F14.
I looked at your RPMS at http://www.dageek.co.uk/ltsp/ and noticed a
notable lack of .src.rpm's. Although it is not my intent to make Fedora
work, I want to take your minimal changes and commit them to upstream
ltsp so we don't have confusing forks.
Technically you are correct: With minimal changes F-14 could be
installable. However Fedora is highly problematic with LTSP for several
reasons. First, F-14 lacks support for the vast majority of existing
LTSP client hardware. The picture is far worse for F-15 due to big
changes in the core distro. systemd will require some LTSP surgery,
while GNOME 3 is a complete non-starter. Furthermore, Fedora's rapid
change and short support period makes it undesirable for both LTSP
development and the target deployment market. Fedora's rapidly moving
target often breaks functionality you depend on, while it is completely
untenable for organizations to upgrade their Fedora LTSP server every
year in order to keep up with security updates.
For this reason, we would be better off focusing all of our efforts on
an EL6-based LTSP server. The target deployment of LTSP wants "legacy"
desktop environments like GNOME 2. The entire stack of kernel, drivers,
desktop environment and security sensitive apps like Firefox will be
maintained for years, and largely without destabilizing changes during
Yes, EL-6 based LTSP has the same client hardware support problem as
Fedora. I will do some experimentation here of both rebuilding the
entire client distro to i586 or using a Debian /opt/ltsp/i386, to
determine which requires less effort to support in the coming years.
warren at togami.com
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