From brcisna at eazylivin.net Sun Sep 9 14:13:14 2012 From: brcisna at eazylivin.net (Barry R Cisna) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 09:13:14 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID 1 anomaly Message-ID: <1347199994.12027.139.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello ALl, Looks like not much activity for quite some time here... I have a question for the grizzled network admins. We have an old Windows 2000 server (that runs some VERY old typing programs) that one of the two hard drives died that i configured in a Hardware RAID 1 /Stripped arrangement. The drive simply would not 'park',,,click,,click,,click,,,on boot. OK,so i find another same capacity hard drive in the cast off pile ,that i swapped the circuit board,off of,,onto the clicking hard drive.This fixes the 'parking problem,and the drive is now recognized in the bios once again. Problem: Now the same hard drive ( with diffrent circuit board) is being seen as an 'foreign drive' in the RAID array ( FastTrack100). Is there any way to make this same drive with different circuit board/ serial number,,fit into the original array? I hate the thoughts of having to reformat this server beings it's an very antiqaited piece anyway Thank you, Barry From burke at thealmquists.net Sun Sep 9 15:36:33 2012 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:36:33 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID 1 anomaly In-Reply-To: <1347199994.12027.139.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1347199994.12027.139.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You said it's striping, so is it RAID 0 or RAID 1? On Sep 9, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Barry R Cisna wrote: > Hello ALl, > > Looks like not much activity for quite some time here... > I have a question for the grizzled network admins. > We have an old Windows 2000 server (that runs some VERY old typing > programs) that one of the two hard drives died that i configured in a > Hardware RAID 1 /Stripped arrangement. The drive simply would not > 'park',,,click,,click,,click,,,on boot. OK,so i find another same > capacity hard drive in the cast off pile ,that i swapped the circuit > board,off of,,onto the clicking hard drive.This fixes the 'parking > problem,and the drive is now recognized in the bios once again. > > Problem: Now the same hard drive ( with diffrent circuit board) is being > seen as an 'foreign drive' in the RAID array ( FastTrack100). > Is there any way to make this same drive with different circuit board/ > serial number,,fit into the original array? > I hate the thoughts of having to reformat this server beings it's an > very antiqaited piece anyway > > Thank you, > Barry > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlBMt4EACgkQxWV7OPa/g5HCZQCeOyTw8gBtXIsNpHWZFMoVQdvp LP4An2X/Qer+ThmcXzeAlvBNEBrUfVHI =mzBn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lesmikesell at gmail.com Sun Sep 9 16:06:28 2012 From: lesmikesell at gmail.com (Les Mikesell) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 11:06:28 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID 1 anomaly In-Reply-To: References: <1347199994.12027.139.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Burke Almquist wrote: > > You said it's striping, so is it RAID 0 or RAID 1? > > If it is raid1 (mirrors), you just make matching (or larger) partitions and 'mdadmin --add /dev/md? /dev/sd?' with the array and partition names. If it is raid0 (striped) you lose the data if any drive breaks. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com From jim.kinney at gmail.com Sun Sep 9 21:38:10 2012 From: jim.kinney at gmail.com (Jim Kinney) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 17:38:10 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID 1 anomaly In-Reply-To: <1347199994.12027.139.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1347199994.12027.139.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: You will need to intialize the drive into the hardware raid array. They are all different but basically you need to mark the old drive as bad, remove it, and let this be the replacement. hardware raid of the win2k era (error?) is mostly braindead so you may be out of luck. As most schools don't have backups for anything but the stuff used by the top-most brass, restore is unlikely. I fell in love with software raid when a controller card died and the new card auto-initialized the array drives thus dumping everything. I use software raid as a backup tool for the hard drive - one drive in a 2 (or 3) drive RAID 1 is a removable. I turn it down, pop it out and swap in the next drive. A few hours later I have a full backup. On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Barry R Cisna wrote: > Hello ALl, > > Looks like not much activity for quite some time here... > I have a question for the grizzled network admins. > We have an old Windows 2000 server (that runs some VERY old typing > programs) that one of the two hard drives died that i configured in a > Hardware RAID 1 /Stripped arrangement. The drive simply would not > 'park',,,click,,click,,click,,,on boot. OK,so i find another same > capacity hard drive in the cast off pile ,that i swapped the circuit > board,off of,,onto the clicking hard drive.This fixes the 'parking > problem,and the drive is now recognized in the bios once again. > > Problem: Now the same hard drive ( with diffrent circuit board) is being > seen as an 'foreign drive' in the RAID array ( FastTrack100). > Is there any way to make this same drive with different circuit board/ > serial number,,fit into the original array? > I hate the thoughts of having to reformat this server beings it's an > very antiqaited piece anyway > > Thank you, > Barry > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see -- -- James P. Kinney III Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog. - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain http://electjimkinney.org http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/ From burke at thealmquists.net Sun Sep 9 21:41:22 2012 From: burke at thealmquists.net (burke at thealmquists.net) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 16:41:22 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID 1 anomaly Message-ID: The problem is that this is a hardware array. This is why I hate using hardware raid. Especially for raid 1 or 0. It doesn't help that much. Les Mikesell wrote: >On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Burke Almquist wrote: >> >> You said it's striping, so is it RAID 0 or RAID 1? >> >> > >If it is raid1 (mirrors), you just make matching (or larger) >partitions and 'mdadmin --add /dev/md? /dev/sd?' with the array and >partition names. If it is raid0 (striped) you lose the data if any >drive breaks. > >-- > Les Mikesell > lesmikesell at gmail.com > >_______________________________________________ >K12OSN mailing list >K12OSN at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >For more info see From andy at spitcomp.com Mon Sep 10 00:25:18 2012 From: andy at spitcomp.com (Andrew Fisk) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:25:18 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] RAID 1 anomaly In-Reply-To: References: <1347199994.12027.139.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <792E9AEA-8E7A-4856-8F4C-02F9D6CE7F75@spitcomp.com> Win 2000, just install the new drive, format and mirror using the disk tool in computer admin. Thanks Andy Spitfire Computer Services 406 Beaver Street Sewickley, PA 15143 Phone (412) 254-4727 andy at spitcomp.com www.spitcomp.com On Sep 9, 2012, at Sunday, September 9, 201212:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Burke Almquist wrote: >> >> You said it's striping, so is it RAID 0 or RAID 1? >> >> > > If it is raid1 (mirrors), you just make matching (or larger) > partitions and 'mdadmin --add /dev/md? /dev/sd?' with the array and > partition names. If it is raid0 (striped) you lose the data if any > drive breaks. > > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikesell at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is good to see there are still some active members on this K12LTSP list! Take Care, Barry From monteslu at cox.net Tue Sep 18 15:45:33 2012 From: monteslu at cox.net (monteslu at cox.net) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 8:45:33 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] jetpipe Message-ID: <20120918114533.CMT6L.1044572.imail@fed1rmwml107> I'm using Centos 6.3 with the k12linux project. Most things seem to be working ok except for printing. I know there's 2 versions of jetpipe for printers on thin clients. I think the one that comes with k12linux is the old one. I tried the newer one from ubuntu, but that doesnt seem to work either. I dont think the script is being called, but not sure. Also the jetpipe script that came with the k12linux repo required the python daemon lib which wasn't in the chroot. I added that but still didnt work. The newer script didnt require it. Anyone have Centos6/RHEL6/SL6 + LTSP with printers working? Thanks, Luis From julius at turtle.com Wed Sep 19 03:09:32 2012 From: julius at turtle.com (julius at turtle.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:09:32 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] jetpipe In-Reply-To: <20120918114533.CMT6L.1044572.imail@fed1rmwml107> Message-ID: <9a7fb027effce538caf036f9370a094260c24e0c@webmail.turtle.com> The parallel printers are not working, no matter what we do with jetpipe. The usb printers seem just fine. I'll know tomorrow if the usb to parallel converters are athe simple workaround. julius ----- Original Message ----- From: "Support list for open source software in schools." To:, Cc: Sent:Tue, 18 Sep 2012 8:45:33 -0700 Subject:[K12OSN] jetpipe I'm using Centos 6.3 with the k12linux project. Most things seem to be working ok except for printing. I know there's 2 versions of jetpipe for printers on thin clients. I think the one that comes with k12linux is the old one. I tried the newer one from ubuntu, but that doesnt seem to work either. I dont think the script is being called, but not sure. Also the jetpipe script that came with the k12linux repo required the python daemon lib which wasn't in the chroot. I added that but still didnt work. The newer script didnt require it. Anyone have Centos6/RHEL6/SL6 + LTSP with printers working? Thanks, Luis _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Please note, any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Turtle & Hughes, Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From redtex at mail.ru Wed Sep 19 06:11:08 2012 From: redtex at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?V2FkaW0gSW5jb2duaXRv?=) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:11:08 +0400 Subject: [K12OSN] =?utf-8?q?jetpipe?= In-Reply-To: <9a7fb027effce538caf036f9370a094260c24e0c@webmail.turtle.com> References: <20120918114533.CMT6L.1044572.imail@fed1rmwml107> <9a7fb027effce538caf036f9370a094260c24e0c@webmail.turtle.com> Message-ID: <1348035068.930351286@f95.mail.ru> The jetpipe included in k12linux distribution don't work neither lpt nor usb printers. Use p910nd instead -?http://p910nd.sourceforge.net/?Just delete old jetpipe from thin client chroot, rename p910nd in jetpipe and place it in chroot.? By that way I have working usb printers on CentOS 6.2 & 6.3 LTSP :) Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:09:32 -0400 ?? julius at turtle.com: > > > > >The parallel printers are not working, no matter what we do with jetpipe. The usb printers seem just fine. I'll know tomorrow if the usb to parallel converters are athe simple workaround. >julius > > > >>----- Original Message ----- >> >> >>From: "Support list for open source software in schools." >> >>To:, >> >>Cc: >> >>Sent:Tue, 18 Sep 2012 8:45:33 -0700 >> >>Subject:[K12OSN] jetpipe >> >> >> I'm using Centos 6.3 with the k12linux project. Most things seem to be working ok except for printing. I know there's 2 versions of jetpipe for printers on thin clients. I think the one that comes with k12linux is the old one. I tried the newer one from ubuntu, but that doesnt seem to work either. I dont think the script is being called, but not sure. >> >> Also the jetpipe script that came with the k12linux repo required the python daemon lib which wasn't in the chroot. I added that but still didnt work. The newer script didnt require it. >> >> >> Anyone have Centos6/RHEL6/SL6 + LTSP with printers working? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Luis >> >> _______________________________________________ >> K12OSN mailing list >> K12OSN at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >> For more info see >>This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Please note, any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Turtle & Hughes, Inc. >_______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list >K12OSN at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at thealmquists.net Wed Sep 19 15:35:22 2012 From: burke at thealmquists.net (burke at thealmquists.net) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:35:22 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] jetpipe Message-ID: Just one thought, if jetpipe is working for usb printers and not parallel ones. You might have to tell the client to load the parallel port module. IIRC, parallel port drives don't just load automatically like usb/usb printers. I could be remembering this wrong, but you should make sure that the parallel driver is loading. julius at turtle.com wrote: >The parallel printers are not working, no matter what we do with >jetpipe. The usb printers seem just fine. I'll know tomorrow if the >usb to parallel converters are athe simple workaround. >julius > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Support list for open source software in schools." >To:, >Cc: >Sent:Tue, 18 Sep 2012 8:45:33 -0700 >Subject:[K12OSN] jetpipe > > I'm using Centos 6.3 with the k12linux project. Most things seem to >be working ok except for printing. I know there's 2 versions of >jetpipe for printers on thin clients. I think the one that comes with >k12linux is the old one. I tried the newer one from ubuntu, but that >doesnt seem to work either. I dont think the script is being called, >but not sure. > > Also the jetpipe script that came with the k12linux repo required >the python daemon lib which wasn't in the chroot. I added that but >still didnt work. The newer script didnt require it. > > Anyone have Centos6/RHEL6/SL6 + LTSP with printers working? > > Thanks, > > Luis > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see >This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the >individual to whom it is addressed. Please note, any views or >opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and >do not necessarily represent those of Turtle & Hughes, Inc. > >_______________________________________________ >K12OSN mailing list >K12OSN at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn >For more info see From tomishinets.vi at hotmail.com Thu Sep 27 12:54:43 2012 From: tomishinets.vi at hotmail.com (=?koi8-r?B?98zBxMnNydIg6dfBzs/Xyd4g9M/NydvJzsXD?=) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:54:43 +0400 Subject: [K12OSN] unable to change default password Message-ID: After reset user password through web interface IPA, user unable to change default password when he tries to login in ltsp-session. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burke at thealmquists.net Fri Sep 28 05:17:09 2012 From: burke at thealmquists.net (Burke Almquist) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:17:09 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] unable to change default password In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:54 AM, ???????? ???????? ????????? wrote: > After reset user password through web interface IPA, user unable to change default password when he tries to login in ltsp-session. Was the user ever able to change his password after logging in? And what you you mean by "web interface IPA"?