From pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au Thu Oct 20 08:03:53 2016 From: pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au (Paul Mulroney) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:03:53 +0800 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I'm trying to setup a new LTSP server, using K12Linux. In the install guide (http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora) it says: > rpm --import http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/RPM-GPG-KEY-ltsp > > rpm -Uvh > http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/el6/x86_64/ltsp-release-5-9.el6.noarch.rpm > > yum install ltsp-server > Edit config files in /etc/ltsp/ > ltsp-build-client > Read the docs!! However, the server responds with AllAccessDisabled All access to this object has been disabled 440C4FCB81A8CF1D qADc1PRsGHvyCZ9+lDOlpDM4Mm0VaQfyBAyS1G9uVSif7FG7GIz1W89JPPPqBeIE37McLP07Vj4= Is there an alternative download location for these RPM files and RPM keys? Regards, Paul. Fishing is a matter of Bait and Sea @gingermeggs1921 -- Paul W. Mulroney We Don't Do Simple Pty Ltd pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au Trading as Logical Developments www.logicaldevelopments.com.au ACN 161 009 374 Ph: +61 8 9458 3889 86 Coolgardie Street BENTLEY WA 6102 From william at fragakis.com Thu Oct 20 17:02:40 2016 From: william at fragakis.com (William Fragakis) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:02:40 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1476982960.31255.111.camel@fragakis.com> Paul, LTSP on EL (Centos, SL, etc) has been broken and not updated on for sometime. It absolutely didn't work on 7 despite efforts. The work that needed to be done was beyond the capabilities of most of us on the list. Most of the issues seemed to be centered around LDM. That EL7 was 64bit only complicated matters as well for many of us using older clients. A number of us have migrated to Edubuntu, Debian, etc. I think my first install was around Fedora 5 if that gives you some context.? I wish I could be more encouraging. If anyone on the list has had a more positive outcome, I hope they can help. Best regards, William > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:03:53 +0800 > From: Paul Mulroney > To: k12osn at redhat.com > Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found > Message-ID: > u> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Everyone, > > I'm trying to setup a new LTSP server, using K12Linux. > > In the install guide (http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora) it > says: > > > > > rpm --import http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/RPM-GPG-KEY-ltsp > > > > ? rpm -Uvh? > > http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/el6/x86_64/ltsp-release-5-9.el > > 6.noarch.rpm > > > > ? yum install ltsp-server > > ? Edit config files in /etc/ltsp/ > > ? ltsp-build-client > > ? Read the docs!! > However, the server responds with? > > > AllAccessDisabled > All access to this object has been disabled > 440C4FCB81A8CF1D > > qADc1PRsGHvyCZ9+lDOlpDM4Mm0VaQfyBAyS1G9uVSif7FG7GIz1W89JPPPqBeIE37McL > P07Vj4= > > > > Is there an alternative download location for these RPM files and RPM > keys? > > Regards, > Paul. > > > Fishing is a matter of Bait and Sea @gingermeggs1921 From radek at bursztynowski.pl Thu Oct 20 18:15:48 2016 From: radek at bursztynowski.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Rados=C5=82aw?= Bursztynowski) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:15:48 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: <1476982960.31255.111.camel@fragakis.com> References: Message-ID: <1476987348.28579.4.camel@bursztynowski.pl> William, I supected your opinitn that "It (K12Linux) absolutely didn't work on 7". I work on K12Linux/CentOS 7 few mounts and I am siatified. I have got older thin client image (Sicenbtific Linux 6.1). I am not going to migrate to Edubuntu or Debian. Best regards, Radek > Paul, > LTSP on EL (Centos, SL, etc) has been broken and not updated on for > sometime. It absolutely didn't work on 7 despite efforts. The work that > needed to be done was beyond the capabilities of most of us on the > list. > > Most of the issues seemed to be centered around LDM. That EL7 was 64bit > only complicated matters as well for many of us using older clients. > > A number of us have migrated to Edubuntu, Debian, etc. I think my first > install was around Fedora 5 if that gives you some context. > > I wish I could be more encouraging. If anyone on the list has had a > more positive outcome, I hope they can help. > > Best regards, > William > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:03:53 +0800 > > From: Paul Mulroney > > To: k12osn at redhat.com > > Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found > > Message-ID: > > > u> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I'm trying to setup a new LTSP server, using K12Linux. > > > > In the install guide (http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora) it > > says: > > > > > > > > rpm --import http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/RPM-GPG-KEY-ltsp > > > > > > rpm -Uvh > > > http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/el6/x86_64/ltsp-release-5-9.el > > > 6.noarch.rpm > > > > > > yum install ltsp-server > > > Edit config files in /etc/ltsp/ > > > ltsp-build-client > > > Read the docs!! > > However, the server responds with > > > > > > AllAccessDisabled > > All access to this object has been disabled > > 440C4FCB81A8CF1D > > > > qADc1PRsGHvyCZ9+lDOlpDM4Mm0VaQfyBAyS1G9uVSif7FG7GIz1W89JPPPqBeIE37McL > > P07Vj4= > > > > > > > > Is there an alternative download location for these RPM files and RPM > > keys? > > > > Regards, > > Paul. > > > > > > Fishing is a matter of Bait and Sea @gingermeggs1921 > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From bfristen at shaw.ca Thu Oct 20 21:49:55 2016 From: bfristen at shaw.ca (Brian Fristensky) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 15:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: <1476987348.28579.4.camel@bursztynowski.pl> Message-ID: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> It has been clear for some time now that LTSP is dead. There is no interest in supporting it and keeping it current. I can strongly recommend Thinlinc from http://www.cendio.com. Although this is a commercial package, the free download allows up to 10 concurrent sessions at a time. You do have to sign up to get the download, but it is free under these terms. The desktop client is freely available with no restrictions. * Thinlinc is very polished. It functions very well to deliver a complete desktop originating from a remote server * Server works out of the box on all Linux distributions I have tried (RHEL 6&7, Scientific Linux 6, Debian, Fedora 22) * There are clients for Linux, Mac and Windows. All work well * Sound works right out of the box * Thinlinc does a great job of streaming multimedia * persistant sessions when you disconnect and reconnect * automatic resizing of the screen when you switch to a different computer * Web-based client for server-end configuration * traffic between client and server is encrypted * Thinlinc is actively developed by Cendio, and they have good support, including an active discussion group. I can't count the number of hours I wasted wrestling with LTSP to try to get it to work. The documentation was never up to date with the software. Thinlinc has been almost completely painless. For personal use, I have the Thinlinc server running on my Linux machine at home, and on my lab servers at work. Our university also has a campus-wide license for the server, which they run on RedHat 7. I use Thinlinc in all of the courses I teach. The client is available on all campus computers, and if students want the client on their own computers, they have no problems installing and running it. By installing one client on their comuter, they have access to hundreds of system-wide applications. I can't speak to what it costs if you need more than 10 concurrent sessions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rados?aw Bursztynowski" To: "Support list for open source software in schools." Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:15:48 PM Subject: Re: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found William, I supected your opinitn that "It (K12Linux) absolutely didn't work on 7". I work on K12Linux/CentOS 7 few mounts and I am siatified. I have got older thin client image (Sicenbtific Linux 6.1). I am not going to migrate to Edubuntu or Debian. Best regards, Radek > Paul, > LTSP on EL (Centos, SL, etc) has been broken and not updated on for > sometime. It absolutely didn't work on 7 despite efforts. The work that > needed to be done was beyond the capabilities of most of us on the > list. > > Most of the issues seemed to be centered around LDM. That EL7 was 64bit > only complicated matters as well for many of us using older clients. > > A number of us have migrated to Edubuntu, Debian, etc. I think my first > install was around Fedora 5 if that gives you some context. > > I wish I could be more encouraging. If anyone on the list has had a > more positive outcome, I hope they can help. > > Best regards, > William > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:03:53 +0800 > > From: Paul Mulroney > > To: k12osn at redhat.com > > Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found > > Message-ID: > > > u> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I'm trying to setup a new LTSP server, using K12Linux. > > > > In the install guide (http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora) it > > says: > > > > > > > > rpm --import http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/RPM-GPG-KEY-ltsp > > > > > > rpm -Uvh > > > http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/el6/x86_64/ltsp-release-5-9.el > > > 6.noarch.rpm > > > > > > yum install ltsp-server > > > Edit config files in /etc/ltsp/ > > > ltsp-build-client > > > Read the docs!! > > However, the server responds with > > > > > > AllAccessDisabled > > All access to this object has been disabled > > 440C4FCB81A8CF1D > > > > qADc1PRsGHvyCZ9+lDOlpDM4Mm0VaQfyBAyS1G9uVSif7FG7GIz1W89JPPPqBeIE37McL > > P07Vj4= > > > > > > > > Is there an alternative download location for these RPM files and RPM > > keys? > > > > Regards, > > Paul. > > > > > > Fishing is a matter of Bait and Sea @gingermeggs1921 > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see _______________________________________________ K12OSN mailing list K12OSN at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn For more info see -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From microman at cmosnetworks.com Fri Oct 21 00:13:25 2016 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:13:25 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: As much as I hate to admit it, yeah, I'd have to agree with that sentiment now. It's ironic that LTSP was created to foster low-cost computing by using older, diskless computers as thin clients...and has become a victim of its own success. Nowadays, we can get pretty powerful used desktop computers for as little as $99. LTSP's goal has been achieved...at the cost of its own continued success! Ironic, indeed.... These days, the "low cost" computer option is to just pick up some good used computers and Ghost an image to the boxes. But oh, boy, when LTSP came out, it sure was needed, and it sure did fill that need in excellent style. --TP On 10/20/2016 05:49 PM, Brian Fristensky wrote: > It has been clear for some time now that LTSP is dead. There is no > interest > in supporting it and keeping it current. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssh at tranquility.net Fri Oct 21 04:13:59 2016 From: ssh at tranquility.net (ssh at tranquility.net) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 23:13:59 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: References: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <0145b9ca1b2112fc15d87d833e90b99b@tranquility.net> On 20.10.2016 19:13, Terrell Prude' Jr. wrote: > As much as I hate to admit it, yeah, I'd have to agree with that > sentiment now.? It's ironic that LTSP was created to foster low-cost > computing by using older, diskless computers as thin clients...and has > become a victim of its own success.? Nowadays, we can get pretty > powerful used desktop computers for as little as $99.? LTSP's goal has > been achieved...at the cost of its own continued success! > > Ironic, indeed.... > > These days, the "low cost" computer option is to just pick up some > good used computers and Ghost an image to the boxes. > > But oh, boy, when LTSP came out, it sure was needed, and it sure did > fill that need in excellent style. > > --TP And a mighty 'thanks' to all who ever worked on this. I started running LTSP about 14 years ago. I have enough old hardware for clients that I still run it at home. It's not a mighty media portal, but for basic web/docs/email it still works very well. cat /etc/issue CentOS release 5.7 (Final) There's still updates for CentOS, even that old. I still have cronjobs that rsync everything important to a spare drive for backup. A few years ago I had a motherboard failure, plopped the drives into another server. After a bit of extra thinking and finding new hardware, it came right up. From k12ltsp at rwcinc.net Fri Oct 21 03:47:38 2016 From: k12ltsp at rwcinc.net (Patrick Fleming) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:47:38 -0700 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: References: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <20161020204738.42c55e58@debian.net.home> I'm looking to migrate a K12LTSP server either later this year or next summer. Is the code so broken that I'm not going to be able to do that easily? I don't mind spending _some_ time on it, but this is an office server that can't really be down for too long - or at all. Patrick On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:13:25 -0400 "Terrell Prude' Jr." wrote: > As much as I hate to admit it, yeah, I'd have to agree with that > sentiment now. It's ironic that LTSP was created to foster low-cost > computing by using older, diskless computers as thin clients...and > has become a victim of its own success. Nowadays, we can get pretty > powerful used desktop computers for as little as $99. LTSP's goal > has been achieved...at the cost of its own continued success! > > Ironic, indeed.... > > These days, the "low cost" computer option is to just pick up some > good used computers and Ghost an image to the boxes. > > But oh, boy, when LTSP came out, it sure was needed, and it sure did > fill that need in excellent style. > > --TP > > > On 10/20/2016 05:49 PM, Brian Fristensky wrote: > > It has been clear for some time now that LTSP is dead. There is no > > interest > > in supporting it and keeping it current. > From radek at bursztynowski.pl Fri Oct 21 07:19:12 2016 From: radek at bursztynowski.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?Rados=C5=82aw?= Bursztynowski) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:19:12 +0200 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> References: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <1477034352.821.1.camel@bursztynowski.pl> Open Thinclinet could be an alternative too. http://openthinclient.org/en/download-openthinclient-software/ Best regards, Radek > It has been clear for some time now that LTSP is dead. There is no > interest > in supporting it and keeping it current. > > I can strongly recommend Thinlinc from http://www.cendio.com. Although > this is a commercial > package, the free download allows up to 10 concurrent sessions at a > time. You do > have to sign up to get the download, but it is free under these terms. > The desktop > client is freely available with no restrictions. > * Thinlinc is very polished. It functions very well to deliver a > complete desktop originating from a remote server > * Server works out of the box on all Linux distributions I have > tried (RHEL 6&7, Scientific Linux 6, Debian, Fedora 22) > * There are clients for Linux, Mac and Windows. All work well > * Sound works right out of the box > * Thinlinc does a great job of streaming multimedia > * persistant sessions when you disconnect and reconnect > * automatic resizing of the screen when you switch to a > different computer > * Web-based client for server-end configuration > * traffic between client and server is encrypted > * Thinlinc is actively developed by Cendio, and they have good > support, including an active discussion group. > I can't count the number of hours I wasted wrestling with LTSP to try > to get it to work. The documentation was never up > to date with the software. Thinlinc has been almost completely > painless. > > For personal use, I have the Thinlinc server running on my Linux > machine at home, > and on my lab servers at work. Our university also has a campus-wide > license for the > server, which they run on RedHat 7. I use Thinlinc in all of the > courses I teach. The client is > available on all campus computers, and if students want the client on > their own computers, > they have no problems installing and running it. By installing one > client on their > comuter, they have access to hundreds of system-wide applications. > > I can't speak to what it costs if you need more than 10 concurrent > sessions. > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > From: "Rados?aw Bursztynowski" > To: "Support list for open source software in schools." > > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:15:48 PM > Subject: Re: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found > > William, > > I supected your opinitn that "It (K12Linux) absolutely didn't work on > 7". I work on K12Linux/CentOS 7 few mounts and I am siatified. I have > got older thin client image (Sicenbtific Linux 6.1). I am not going to > migrate to Edubuntu or Debian. > > Best regards, > Radek > > > Paul, > > LTSP on EL (Centos, SL, etc) has been broken and not updated on for > > sometime. It absolutely didn't work on 7 despite efforts. The work > that > > needed to be done was beyond the capabilities of most of us on the > > list. > > > > Most of the issues seemed to be centered around LDM. That EL7 was > 64bit > > only complicated matters as well for many of us using older clients. > > > > A number of us have migrated to Edubuntu, Debian, etc. I think my > first > > install was around Fedora 5 if that gives you some context. > > > > I wish I could be more encouraging. If anyone on the list has had a > > more positive outcome, I hope they can help. > > > > Best regards, > > William > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:03:53 +0800 > > > From: Paul Mulroney > > > To: k12osn at redhat.com > > > Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > u> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > I'm trying to setup a new LTSP server, using K12Linux. > > > > > > In the install guide (http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora) > it > > > says: > > > > > > > > > > > rpm --import > http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/RPM-GPG-KEY-ltsp > > > > > > > > rpm -Uvh > > > > > http://ltsprepo.s3.amazonaws.com/rpm/el6/x86_64/ltsp-release-5-9.el > > > > 6.noarch.rpm > > > > > > > > yum install ltsp-server > > > > Edit config files in /etc/ltsp/ > > > > ltsp-build-client > > > > Read the docs!! > > > However, the server responds with > > > > > > > > > AllAccessDisabled > > > All access to this object has been disabled > > > 440C4FCB81A8CF1D > > > > > > qADc1PRsGHvyCZ9 > +lDOlpDM4Mm0VaQfyBAyS1G9uVSif7FG7GIz1W89JPPPqBeIE37McL > > > P07Vj4= > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there an alternative download location for these RPM files and > RPM > > > keys? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Paul. > > > > > > > > > Fishing is a matter of Bait and Sea @gingermeggs1921 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing list > > K12OSN at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > For more info see > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > From drknght at excite.com Fri Oct 21 12:47:18 2016 From: drknght at excite.com (Michael G. Tracey) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 08:47:18 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Latest Version And Which Os's Can I Run It On Message-ID: <20161021084718.26443@web008.roc2.bluetie.com> I had a LTSP server setup quite a few years ago... With Ubuntu And Redhat Clones And now want to setup a new one. I Would Like To Set Up A Classroom With LTSP... I have Xeon Servers and Workstations... and about 40 Dell d600 and Higher Laptops... I have Ubuntu, Fedora, And Windows 10. I am best with Fedora But would use anyone. Where would I find the latest RPM's to download along with the current manuals... On the LTSP.ORG page and the UBUNTU SUPPORT site I cannot make heads or tails of it... The Ubuntu site every link I clicked took me back to the same page. I seem to be going in circles... Just to let you know I am really computer literate ... but this has always gotten me. I Still receive Newsletters so I assume there is still support. Thanks for your help. MGT From jomegat at jomegat.com Fri Oct 21 13:39:01 2016 From: jomegat at jomegat.com (Jim Thomas) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: <20161020204738.42c55e58@debian.net.home> References: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <20161020204738.42c55e58@debian.net.home> Message-ID: <864761826.39801.a3d163fc-1f50-4733-a324-a13d42fc34f7.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lesmikesell at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 14:27:01 2016 From: lesmikesell at gmail.com (Les Mikesell) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:27:01 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: <864761826.39801.a3d163fc-1f50-4733-a324-a13d42fc34f7.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> References: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <20161020204738.42c55e58@debian.net.home> <864761826.39801.a3d163fc-1f50-4733-a324-a13d42fc34f7.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: > > The huge advantage I see with LTSP is the ease of system administration. > New things are installed in one place and then are available to all. It > doesn't matter which workstation you sit at, you get the same environment. > Maybe that's something you can do with Windows/Macs, but I have no desire to > learn those technologies. LTSP works for us. If you just want multiuser remote access to a Linux host where you have the applications you could try installing the x2go package and then run the windows/mac/linux clients from whatever you are running on the desktop systems. It gives you remote X sessions with efficient caching and the ability to disconnect and reconnect to a running session. It is close to NoMachine's NX server but an open source project. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 15:22:36 2016 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 11:22:36 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Latest Version And Which Os's Can I Run It On In-Reply-To: <20161021084718.26443@web008.roc2.bluetie.com> References: <20161021084718.26443@web008.roc2.bluetie.com> Message-ID: Hello Michael, I'm not technically strong, but I think I can help with your question. For me, once K12LTSP was no longer easily usable, I switched to Edubuntu. I found it just as easy to run as K12LTSP was - download the ISO, install, and everything just worked. We have about 50 computers on our server and it's been up and running for years without an issue. https://edubuntu.org/ Give it a try - the documentation is all there as well. Have a nice day. Joseph On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Michael G. Tracey wrote: > I had a LTSP server setup quite a few years ago... With Ubuntu And Redhat Clones And now want to setup a new one. > > I Would Like To Set Up A Classroom With LTSP... > > I have Xeon Servers and Workstations... and about 40 Dell d600 and Higher Laptops... > > I have Ubuntu, Fedora, And Windows 10. > > I am best with Fedora But would use anyone. > > Where would I find the latest RPM's to download along with the current manuals... > > On the LTSP.ORG page and the UBUNTU SUPPORT site I cannot make heads or tails of it... > > The Ubuntu site every link I clicked took me back to the same page. > > I seem to be going in circles... Just to let you know I am really computer literate ... but this has always gotten me. > > I Still receive Newsletters so I assume there is still support. > > Thanks for your help. > > MGT > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From joseph.bishay at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 15:38:59 2016 From: joseph.bishay at gmail.com (Joseph Bishay) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 11:38:59 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: <864761826.39801.a3d163fc-1f50-4733-a324-a13d42fc34f7.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> References: <1883037318.113637163.1477000195165.JavaMail.root@shaw.ca> <20161020204738.42c55e58@debian.net.home> <864761826.39801.a3d163fc-1f50-4733-a324-a13d42fc34f7.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Message-ID: Hello, I just wanted to chime in and say I've been using LTSP now for over a decade, and without LTSP there would have been no way to have computers for our students and community on our budget. It lets us re-purpose older machines as thin clients, or newer machines as thick clients, and lets us manage the entire network remotely as we have no I.T. staff on site and those off-site are volunteers. It is scalable based on our need and has met the vast majority of our requirements. The kids take to it very well. I am very appreciative of all those who put effort into making the software 'Just Work' and wanted to voice my thanks. Joseph On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: > I've been running K12LTSP since about 1999 (two different schools). Our > server bit the big one (hardware) over the summer and I had to rebuild it > from scratch. Not being able to find a K12 iso, I went with this: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall > > I used this iso: > > http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.5-alternate-amd64.iso > > The trick was to hit F4 and select the LTSP mode during the install. Then > it was off to the races. When you log in it will offer the opportunity to > upgrade to a newer release. I was pressed for time, so I did not exercise > that option, but I will as soon as I get the chance. > > The difference between vanilla LTSP & K12LTSP is that it doesn't install the > education applications (Gcompris, etc). However, no one at our school has > used those for quite some time, making it a non-issue for me. All they need > is LibreOffice and the Internet. > > The huge advantage I see with LTSP is the ease of system administration. > New things are installed in one place and then are available to all. It > doesn't matter which workstation you sit at, you get the same environment. > Maybe that's something you can do with Windows/Macs, but I have no desire to > learn those technologies. LTSP works for us. > > > On October 20, 2016 at 11:47 PM Patrick Fleming wrote: > > > I'm looking to migrate a K12LTSP server either later this year or next > summer. Is the code so broken that I'm not going to be able to do that > easily? I don't mind spending _some_ time on it, but this is an office > server that can't really be down for too long - or at all. > > Patrick > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:13:25 -0400 > "Terrell Prude' Jr." wrote: > > As much as I hate to admit it, yeah, I'd have to agree with that > sentiment now. It's ironic that LTSP was created to foster low-cost > computing by using older, diskless computers as thin clients...and > has become a victim of its own success. Nowadays, we can get pretty > powerful used desktop computers for as little as $99. LTSP's goal > has been achieved...at the cost of its own continued success! > > Ironic, indeed.... > > These days, the "low cost" computer option is to just pick up some > good used computers and Ghost an image to the boxes. > > But oh, boy, when LTSP came out, it sure was needed, and it sure did > fill that need in excellent style. > > --TP > > > On 10/20/2016 05:49 PM, Brian Fristensky wrote: > > It has been clear for some time now that LTSP is dead. There is no > interest > in supporting it and keeping it current. > > _______________________________________________ > > K12OSN mailing listK12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From scott at hosef.org Fri Oct 21 16:15:38 2016 From: scott at hosef.org (R. Scott Belford) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 12:15:38 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Latest Version And Which Os's Can I Run It On In-Reply-To: <20161021084718.26443@web008.roc2.bluetie.com> References: <20161021084718.26443@web008.roc2.bluetie.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Michael G. Tracey wrote: > I had a LTSP server setup quite a few years ago... With Ubuntu And Redhat > Clones And now want to setup a new one. > > I Would Like To Set Up A Classroom With LTSP... ?Then I would take a look at Debian Edu. It is maintained, supported, and actively developed. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/ --scott? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From microman at cmosnetworks.com Fri Oct 21 18:32:37 2016 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 14:32:37 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Latest Version And Which Os's Can I Run It On In-Reply-To: <20161021084718.26443@web008.roc2.bluetie.com> References: <20161021084718.26443@web008.roc2.bluetie.com> Message-ID: Even given what I had said earlier, K12Linux (the new K12LTSP) is based on CentOS 6, and as such, CentOS updates will still be coming for quite a few years yet. Here's what I would do if I were you. https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ --TP On 10/21/2016 08:47 AM, Michael G. Tracey wrote: > I had a LTSP server setup quite a few years ago... With Ubuntu And Redhat Clones And now want to setup a new one. > > I Would Like To Set Up A Classroom With LTSP... > > I have Xeon Servers and Workstations... and about 40 Dell d600 and Higher Laptops... > > I have Ubuntu, Fedora, And Windows 10. > > I am best with Fedora But would use anyone. > > Where would I find the latest RPM's to download along with the current manuals... > > On the LTSP.ORG page and the UBUNTU SUPPORT site I cannot make heads or tails of it... > > The Ubuntu site every link I clicked took me back to the same page. > > I seem to be going in circles... Just to let you know I am really computer literate ... but this has always gotten me. > > I Still receive Newsletters so I assume there is still support. > > Thanks for your help. > > MGT > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see From pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au Mon Oct 24 00:18:17 2016 From: pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au (Paul Mulroney) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:18:17 +0800 Subject: [K12OSN] Latest Version And Which Os's Can I Run It On In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D5405A6-AC05-4F77-92E0-6EAC81FD29E6@logicaldevelopments.com.au> > Even given what I had said earlier, K12Linux (the new K12LTSP) is based > on CentOS 6, and as such, CentOS updates will still be coming for quite > a few years yet. > > Here's what I would do if I were you. > > https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ That's great, but if you follow the links to the install guide, it points to a repo that no longer exists - you can't follow these instructions and get a working system. Regards, Paul. Television may insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer. -- Paul W. Mulroney We Don't Do Simple Pty Ltd pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au Trading as Logical Developments www.logicaldevelopments.com.au ACN 161 009 374 Ph: +61 8 9458 3889 86 Coolgardie Street BENTLEY WA 6102 From pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au Mon Oct 24 00:24:22 2016 From: pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au (Paul Mulroney) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:24:22 +0800 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Everyone, > William, > > I supected your opinitn that "It (K12Linux) absolutely didn't work on > 7". I work on K12Linux/CentOS 7 few mounts and I am siatified. I have > got older thin client image (Sicenbtific Linux 6.1). I am not going to > migrate to Edubuntu or Debian. > > Best regards, > Radek I have a client, who is using an older version of the LTSP on CentOS6. They are having some issues, and I want to be able to do a software update so they're at the latest version of everything to see if that solves the problem. I thought I could setup a test system in my office, and try it first before I do it for real on site. However, getting a fresh CentOS6 with LTSP turns out to be harder than I thought. I feel a bit sad that LTSP has slowly died - it is an excellent solution for small networks. My client has a relatively powerful server, and about 6 diskless workstations (old Pentium 4 machines), and it's worked very well for them. I think the only viable option for my client is to switch to a windows server solution, but I can already hear the $$$ - none of the workstations will run in that new environment, so it's going to cost a lot upgrade. Regards, Paul. I told my wife she was drawing her eyebrows too high. She looked surprised. -- Paul W. Mulroney We Don't Do Simple Pty Ltd pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au Trading as Logical Developments www.logicaldevelopments.com.au ACN 161 009 374 Ph: +61 8 9458 3889 86 Coolgardie Street BENTLEY WA 6102 From microman at cmosnetworks.com Mon Oct 24 02:03:07 2016 From: microman at cmosnetworks.com (Terrell Prude' Jr.) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 22:03:07 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Latest Version And Which Os's Can I Run It On In-Reply-To: <1D5405A6-AC05-4F77-92E0-6EAC81FD29E6@logicaldevelopments.com.au> References: <1D5405A6-AC05-4F77-92E0-6EAC81FD29E6@logicaldevelopments.com.au> Message-ID: On 10/23/2016 08:18 PM, Paul Mulroney wrote: >> Even given what I had said earlier, K12Linux (the new K12LTSP) is based >> on CentOS 6, and as such, CentOS updates will still be coming for quite >> a few years yet. >> >> Here's what I would do if I were you. >> >> https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ > That's great, but if you follow the links to the install guide, it points to a repo that no longer exists - you can't follow these instructions and get a working system. > > Regards, > Paul. > > > Television may insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer. I'm having trouble finding the ISO download. Is that not available anymore? A little Googling turned up this location. You should be able to use it as a repository. http://mirror.ancl.hawaii.edu/~k12linux/rpm/el6/x86_64/ --TP From donais at telupton.com Mon Oct 24 02:25:36 2016 From: donais at telupton.com (donais) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 22:25:36 -0400 Subject: [K12OSN] Latest Version And Which Os's Can I Run It On In-Reply-To: References: <1D5405A6-AC05-4F77-92E0-6EAC81FD29E6@logicaldevelopments.com.au> Message-ID: Get a look a Kiwi-LTSP. It's stable and supported. https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI-LTSP_quick_start -- Michel Donais From peter at peterscheie.com Mon Oct 24 01:49:34 2016 From: peter at peterscheie.com (peter at peterscheie.com) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:49:34 -0500 Subject: [K12OSN] New install of K12LTSP - repo not found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are a few developers still working on LTSP, but they're mostly Ubuntu/Debian folks, so for best results, you may want to move to either of those distros. AFAIK, there isn't anyone formally maintaining LTSP bits for CentOS/Scientific/RHEL. Peter > Hi Everyone, > >> William, >> >> I supected your opinitn that "It (K12Linux) absolutely didn't work on >> 7". I work on K12Linux/CentOS 7 few mounts and I am siatified. I have >> got older thin client image (Sicenbtific Linux 6.1). I am not going to >> migrate to Edubuntu or Debian. >> >> Best regards, >> Radek > > I have a client, who is using an older version of the LTSP on CentOS6. > They are having some issues, and I want to be able to do a software update > so they're at the latest version of everything to see if that solves the > problem. I thought I could setup a test system in my office, and try it > first before I do it for real on site. However, getting a fresh CentOS6 > with LTSP turns out to be harder than I thought. > > I feel a bit sad that LTSP has slowly died - it is an excellent solution > for small networks. My client has a relatively powerful server, and about > 6 diskless workstations (old Pentium 4 machines), and it's worked very > well for them. > > I think the only viable option for my client is to switch to a windows > server solution, but I can already hear the $$$ - none of the workstations > will run in that new environment, so it's going to cost a lot upgrade. > > Regards, > Paul. > > > I told my wife she was drawing her eyebrows too high. She looked > surprised. > -- > Paul W. Mulroney We Don't Do > Simple Pty Ltd > pmulroney at logicaldevelopments.com.au Trading as Logical Developments > www.logicaldevelopments.com.au ACN 161 009 374 > Ph: +61 8 9458 3889 86 Coolgardie > Street > BENTLEY > > WA > > 6102 > > > > _______________________________________________ > K12OSN mailing list > K12OSN at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > For more info see >