[katello-devel] where to get required katello gems

[Hugh O. Brock]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 09:28:44AM -0400, Michael Orazi wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bryan Kearney" <bkearney at redhat.com>
> > > To: katello-devel at redhat.com
> > > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:23:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [katello-devel] where to get required katello gems
> > > 
> > > On 07/16/2012 07:26 AM, Petr Chalupa wrote:
> > > > I have a counter proposal which is more from Ruby world then the
> > > > solution described in previous emails.
> > > >
> > > > - remove source
> > > > 'http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/katello/gems/'
> > > > and
> > > > other sources from Gemfile
> > > > - store all needed gems in vendor/cache as .gem files (directly
> > > > in
> > > > katello master or a git-submodule) (all versions for f16 and
> > > > RHEL)
> > > > - install gems with bundle install (without source specified
> > > > bundler
> > > > picks up gems from vendor/cache)
> > > >
> > > > Advantages:
> > > > - you can install all required gems on any platform: fedora,
> > > > ubuntu
> > > > or
> > > > osx (which I need)
> > > > - faster installation
> > > > - you can switch between fedora/RHEL env by replacing
> > > > Gemfile.lock
> > > > (lets
> > > > say we would have Gemfile.lock.f16 and Gemfile.lock.rhel in our
> > > > git
> > > > for
> > > > this purpose)
> > > > - easy access to and updates of gem versions
> > > > - you can include gems with CVE patches from fedora, everybody
> > > > would
> > > > have correct versions of gems (which I currently don't have)
> > > >
> > > > Disadvantages
> > > > - rubygem-* rpms are not being correctly packed. The included
> > > > .gem
> > > > files
> > > > are not containing CVE patches. We would need to come up with a
> > > > workaround to build updated .gem files or fix the issue. If this
> > > > is
> > > > fixed, all you have to do to store gems in vendor/cache is
> > > > 'bundle
> > > > package' [1].
> > > > - other possible problems i do not see, any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://gembundler.com/bundle_package.html
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Petr
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Could we do this model for DEV, and then work on proper packaging
> > > for
> > > each distro? I think it would help alot if we could be more
> > > friendly
> > > to
> > > DEVs.
> > > 
> > > -- bk
> > > 
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> > 
> > I said half jokingly on IRC the other day that we should have a
> > 'katello-configure --developer' which would install everything for
> > use with a git checkout. This would make it completely simple for
> > anyone to get up and going with a dev setup. Perhaps they would just
> > point to the git checkout:
> > 
> > % katello-configure --developer /home/dudette/katello
> > 
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> 
> There have been some similar discussions on aeolus-devel as well.  Perhaps we could put our heads together and come up with a common solution for both projects since we are dealing with similar concerns.
> 
> Adding John Eckersberg and Jason Guiditta to the cc as they have been thinking a bit about both of these problems.  John has been pretty focussed on possible integrations in aeolus-configure and Jason has been working quite a bit about how to handle bundler such that it will act as one would expect regardless of whether they are an 'rpm based' developer or a 'pure ruby' developer.
> 
> Mike

Yes. I really, really, really want to get all traces of distro
packaging *out* of the Aeolus upstream, which would imply that a. A
developer can check out the code base, do $THINGS, and run a dev
server, and b. a user can download a tarball, do $THINGS, and launch a
functioning instance, regardless of which platform they're on (as long
as the platform has a functioning Ruby environment, so Windows is
maybe out but who really cares).

I'm more than happy to give John and Jay extra time to get this right,
if somebody on the Katello team wants to help that would be awesome.

Take care,
--Hugh

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