Package Selection Question

[Brian Long]

Neil,

Hacking the comps file is fine.  In our case, we have one comps or
comps.xml file which encompasses many different setups.

We have an Engineering Workstation, Engineering Server and DMZ Server
group defined.  If I kickstart the DMZ Server group, it pulls in Mozilla
even though I have --ignoredeps set AND Mozilla is nowhere in the DMZ
group.  elinks is inside the DMZ group and provides "webclient", but
Mozilla still gets pulled in.  This is very frustrating since we don't
want anything pulled in automagically.  We want to specify in the comps
group exactly what gets installed.

/Brian/

On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 20:07, Neil wrote:
> I prefer to hack the comps file (now /RedHat/base/comps.xml). You can
> really say what you want and add you own sense of logic to what goes
> where when.
> 
> add your own groups and refer to those in the kickstart file just as you
> would any other
> 
> This keeps all your package configs in one file so its much easier to
> see whats where
> (ok its not hard searching kickstart files)
> 
> I have found redhats mandatory package choices are to blame for most of
> the I said -package but it still gets added
> 
> You can eat away at Base and remove the many mandatorys to your hearts
> content
> 
> some of their choices are crazy
> 
> hands up who thinks ntsysv should be a mandatory package ? anyone ?
> 
> > Mac,
> > 
> > In our environment, we've always used %packages --ignoredeps since we
> > want to specify each and every package (no automatic dep resolution). 
> > This has worked up until RHEL.  We would tune our package set as
> > needed.  We then login to a box and run "rpm -Va --nofiles" and look for
> > broken dependencies (and fix them).
> > 
> > RHEL 3 broke the --ignoredeps flag and we've been escalating this for a
> > few weeks now.  Someone decided --ignoredeps should no longer be
> > implemented  :-(  but it's still in the documentation.  We require this
> > to properly load DMZ images, etc.  Sometimes we want a package installed
> > even it it relies on a package we don't want installed.
> > 
> > For some reason, mozilla gets installed as a "webclient" even though
> > "elinks" also provides "webclient".  We don't want mozilla on our DMZ
> > image, but it gets pulled in anyways.  Gotta love "enterprise" linux :-|
> > 
> > /Brian/
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 17:12, Mac McClellan wrote:
> >> The RedHat Customization Guide for RedHat 9.0 says the following:
> >> 
> >> <snip>
> >> You can also specify which packages not to install from the default
> >> package list: 
> >> 
> >> @ Games and Entertainment
> >> -kdegames
> >> <snip>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I read that as: "If you want to NOT install a package then put a '-' in
> >> front of it and it will not install.
> >> 
> >> I want to NOT install a bunch of packages that are not needed on my
> >> system.
> >> The appropriate section of my ks.cfg file looks like this:
> >> 
> >> %packages --resolvedeps
> >> @ dns-server
> >> @ compat-arch-support
> >> kernel
> >> grub
> >> ntp
> >> -apmd
> >> -ash
> >> -aspell-da
> >> -aspell-de
> >> -aspell-en-ca
> >> -aspell-en-gb
> >> -aspell-es
> >> <snip - a whole bunch more - snip>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> For some reason the installer installs everything anyway.  
> >> 
> >> I'm working with RedHat Enterprise Linux ES.  The documentation for
> >> Kickstart on Enterprise does not seem to exist, but I'm assuming that
> >> the RedHat 9.0 is virtually the same.
> >> 
> >> Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong?
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Mac McClellan
> >> Sr. Network Engineer
> >> Nu Skin Enterprises, Inc.
> >> 75 West Center Street
> >> Provo, Utah 84601
> >> 801-437-7295
> >> 
> >> 
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