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Re: Core includes Dialup?!?



On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Brian Long wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 09:25 -0500, Michael Shuler wrote:
> > Brian Long wrote:
> > > What is the Red Hat reason for including the Dialup comps group in Core?
> > > This means any basic install has crap like wvdial, ppp, etc.  I
> > > explicitly have to exclude a lot of these packages that shouldn't be on
> > > any profiles except mobile laptops.
> > 
> > Just to clarify my agreement - ppp, etc., is only one example.  A "Core" 
> > install, in my opinion, should be the bare minimum for a networked 
> > server with remote SSH access.  That's it.
> > 
> > We maintain minimal kickstarts with around a 500M footprint, and it does 
> > require a large amount of hacking to get it down to a proper core of 
> > needed packages, in spite of the "mandatory" and "required" dictations.
> 
> Yup, Red Hat includes redhat-lsb, which requires a ton of non-essential
> stuff, to ensure LSB compatibility out-of-the-box.  However, I don't
> believe redhat-lsb requires ppp, pppoe or wvdial.  :)

I think it is part of the "Red Hat Linux for dummies" install philosophy
that has been around since the RHL 6.x days. IIRC the thought was that 
it was easier for people like you and me to take it out then it is to
get a noob to put it in. IOW it cuts down on support calls. :-)

Having said that I agree a base install is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to fat.
Especially since the target audience is a corporate It department.

Regards,

Tom Diehl		tdiehl rogueind com		Spamtrap address mtd123 rogueind com


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