[Libosinfo] Fwd: [PATCH 4/4] gnome: Add info about 3.10

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) zeeshanak at gnome.org
Thu Sep 12 17:02:42 UTC 2013


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christophe Fergeau <cfergeau at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 05:23:34PM +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
>> That is an even more unlikely scenerio. Talk to the people involved a
>> bit and you'll realize this:
>>
>> <zeenix> [16:48:51] is there any intentions still to do installer for gnome?
>> <zeenix> [16:49:52] hughsie: poettering: owen: ^
>> <zeenix> [16:50:19] the installer question, not ramcq's kudos :)
>> <hughsie> [16:50:44] zeenix, not by me, mclasen would kill me
>> <mclasen> [16:51:23] zeenix: what would the installer do ?
>> <zeenix> [17:00:51] mclasen: install gnome? :)
>> <zeenix> [17:01:09] i guess the answer is 'no' then
>> <ebassi> [17:12:12] zeenix: I guess the actual question would be: what
>> does "install gnome" mean?
>> <mclasen> [17:15:20] wget
>> http://build.gnome.org/ostree/buildmaster/images/z/current/gnome-ostree-x86_64-runtime.qcow2.gz
>> ?
>> <zeenix> [17:20:39] ebassi: i don't know. I'm just curious
>
> This does not answer the question about how you get GNOME on a brand new
> machine, my feeling from GUADEC was that some people wanted to address such
> a need. You are not going to achieve that with a qcow2 image.

Of course not but you either do it with GNOME-shipping distribution or
an live ISO (if you just want to try it out) and such ISO would
ideally be produced by ostree (gnome-continuous now) and not through
fedora. GNOME OS does not aim to be be a distribution on its own and
if we start doing installers, thats essentially what it is.

Having said that, I had a bit of chat with Ray about GNOME ISOs:

<zeenix> so these gnome ISOs, just need to know if you intend to do those again?
<zeenix> and if so, would you do it using fedora or make use of ostree?
<halfline> the plan is to do some for .92
<halfline> i don't think i'm going to go back to trying to use ostree for a bit
<halfline> it was a time sink last night
<halfline> i do want to do that eventually
<halfline> but not for .92
<zeenix> ah ok
<zeenix> i wanted to know for adding gnome info to libosinfo
<zeenix> seems we'll have to add two different entries
<halfline> makes sense
<halfline> i'd call one entry "GNOME Continuous"
<halfline> since walters just renamed it
<halfline> (gnome-ostree is now called gnome-continuous)
<zeenix> one for the ostree based images (or isos in future) and one
for fedora-based ISOs
<halfline> suboptimal to have both, i know
<zeenix> halfline: so post .92
<zeenix> any motivation for doing a fedora-based ISO for 3.10.0 ?
<halfline> potentially.
<halfline> if 3.9.92 doesn't end up being problematic and i don't
switch to gnome-continous before 3.10
<halfline> i'll probably do another run with fedora for 3.10.0

So yes, it seems I was wrong to conclude that such ISOs are unlikely.

Such a shame that we'll have create two entries and more in future if
Ray still doesn't manage to get gnome-continuous produce an ISO. Lets
hope he succeeds in 3.12 time.

-- 
Regards,

Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
FSF member#5124




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