[Libvir] Re: [PATCH 1/2] virDomainMigrate implementation (Xen only, no remote, no qemu, no virsh)
Daniel P. Berrange
berrange at redhat.com
Mon Jul 16 19:27:56 UTC 2007
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 02:23:32PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 06:34:57PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >
> >>Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 11:30:33AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>For instance, let's say at a university they use an ldap directory to
> >>>>>>authenticate users and they decide to implement a migration handler
> >>>>>>that uses that for authentication. They may name this "uni://" and
> >>>>>>it'll just work. How would they get at this in libvirt without
> >>>>>>exposing URIs directly?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>My latest proposal[1] has a transport parameter (a string) which
> >>>>>covers this, in as much as it would allow you to construct URIs which
> >>>>>are:
> >>>>>
> >>>>><transport>://<hostname>:<port>
> >>>>>
> >>>>SSH requires:
> >>>>
> >>>>ssh://[user@]hostname[:port]
> >>>>
> >>>>So that wouldn't work :-(
> >>>>
> >>>Sure it would - rich was just showing simplified syntax - the URI
> >>>rules/spec allow for a username and we already use this syntax with a
> >>>username in the remote driver URIs. eg
> >>>
> >>> $ virsh --connect qemu+ssh://root@celery.virt.boston.redhat.com/system
> >>> list --all
> >>>
> >>Anthony is right that my revised proposal limits the migration to just
> >>three parameters: transport, hostname and port.
> >>
> >>https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2007-July/msg00227.html
> >>
> >>Perhaps instead we should replace hostname with a URI parameter,
> >>understood as either a simple hostname, IP address, a "hostname:port"
> >>string [IPv6?], or a full URI. However I feel inevitably this is going
> >>to cause hypervisor dependencies to come into libvirt code, which should
> >>be avoidable.
> >>
> >
> >I think we can expose URIs without directly making the libvirt API
> >hypervisor
> >specific. Even though Anthony is talking with respect to QEMU/KVM there,
> >the concepts is reasonably applicable to Xen too - there's no reason XenD
> >could not be enhanced to support migration over a user-defined transport.
> >
> >So, when thinking about URIs for migration we could consider that there are
> >2 classes of URI
> >
> > - Pre-defined 'standard' URIs - TCP, TCP with SSL/TLS, and SSH being the
> > most obvious - we can easily define clear & portable semantics for these
> > URIs
> >
> > - User-define 'custom' URIs - these are really site/deployment specific,
> > rather than hypervisor specific. ie, if someone implemented a way to
> > deal
> > with foo://bar/, they could provide impls for both Xen & QEMU
> >
>
> How would a user define a custom URI?
A good question, to which I don't have any answer :-) Could just say that
any unrecognised URI is passed down to the underlying driver without libvirt
applying any interpretation of its own.
Dan
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