[libvirt] [PATCH 00/17] Redo website layout and branding

Martin Kletzander mkletzan at redhat.com
Fri Nov 4 11:09:30 UTC 2016


On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 10:17:18AM +0100, Peter Krempa wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:41:41 +0000, Daniel Berrange wrote:
>> The current libvirt website design dates from 2008 and
>> has not changed significantly since. Compared to
>> contemporary open source project websites it looks
>> pretty dated and cluttered.
>
>IMO dated is not that bad. Cluttered is the issue perhaps. Said this I
>don't really like all the "modern" web pages, thus I'm biased.
>

True, you do, but you must also admit that this doesn't do most of the
bad stuff "modern" pages do.  You definitely know what I'm talking
about. ;)

>[...]
>
>> The libvirt logo used a specific font with angled tops
>> to letters like "l", "b" and "t" - this is the "Overpass"
>> font, made available by Red Hat under an open source
>> font license. The re-branding makes use of webfont
>> support so that we can use this font across the entire
>> libvirt website for a consistent look.
>>
>> The colors of the website CSS now exactly match the
>> colors used in the logo in most places.
>
>+1
>
>> The bigger change is in the layout, with the huge
>> left hand sitemap nav bar being removed to give more
>> space to the main content. The front page now directly
>> links to the key pages that were shown to be highly
>> visited in the apache web logs. Most of the rest of
>> the links are now available from the "docs.html" page
>> linked from "Learn" in the top nav bar.
>
>I'm not a fan of this despite having monitors in portrait mode and thus
>finally having the whole width with content.
>
>What bothers me is that for navigation you can't select a different
>section without opening the menu page (either by going back, or by
>clicking on the "learn".
>

This might be an issue, but the bigger one I see in this is that there
is no place on the front page (or anywhere rather) that says
"Documentation".  "Learn" is very misleading for me.

>On the other hand I (and my favorities completion in my browser)
>remember most of the pages I'm accessing, thus I'm not using the menu
>anyways usually.
>
>> Another key change is that the download page now
>> covers all language bindings, test suites, docs
>> released by the project, not merely the core C
>> library.
>>
>> Finally a new page "contribute.html" is added as the
>> source of information useful to people wishing to get
>> involved in the libvirt project.
>>
>> View the new site here
>>
>> https://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-new-website/
>>
>> Note that the front page includes a feed of 4 most
>> recent blog posts, however, if visiting over https://
>> this will be blocked by browsers. In firefox you
>> can tell it to allow http:// content temporarily
>> at which point the feed will appear. I'll be doing
>> a proper fix by getting a TLS cert for virt-tools.org
>> website setup.
>
>In this new design all the XML snippets and other stuff enclosed in
><code> in the source is not in a monospace font any more, which is
>terrible.
>
>Additionally I don't quite like sans-serif fonts for big blocks of
>texts, but the old page was not better in this aspect. I'd be in favor
>of changing to a serif font.
>

Serif is meant for paper, monitors should show Sans-Serif.  And I'm not
saying it just because I like it that way, but as it is supposed to be
like that.  Not all might like it, though.

>Overall I don't disagree with this as long as the XML and code snippets
>stay in a monospace font.
>
>Peter
>



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