vepa-mode directly attached interface

Gionatan Danti g.danti at assyoma.it
Sat Jun 11 22:16:20 UTC 2022


Il 2022-06-11 19:32 Laine Stump ha scritto:
> libvirt's defaults are defaults, and can't be changed with config.
> libvirt also will never changed the hardcoded default, because that
> could break existing installations.

Thanks for the direct confirmation that default can not be changed with 
config. I opened a cockpit-machine bug to ask for a change there: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2095967

> I'm not sure why vepa was chosen as the default when macvtap support
> was added to libvirt, but my best guess is that it was just the bias
> of the person doing the work who assumed their usage would be the most
> common (IIRC it was done by someone who was specifically wanting to
> support connection to VEPA-capable switches, and since it was a new
> feature nobody else had experience with / opinions about which mode
> would be most common, so the reviewers just accepted this default)

Sound reasonable. Do you know if directly attached bridge-mode interface 
is common and tested into production workload, or if "pure" bridge mode 
is the way to go?

Full disclosure: I always used "pure" bridges, but I like the idea to 
deny any guest->host traffic by design - hence my interest in 
bridge-mode macvtap interfaces. Moreover, by the virtue of not requiring 
a dedicated bridge interface, they can simplify the host network 
configuration.

> I guess you'll need to do a "virsh dumpxml --inactive" for each guest
> and parse it out of there.

It matches my results. However, virsh dumpxml is an expensive operation 
- polkitd can easily burn >30% of a single core for 1s polling interval 
with virsh dumpxml. I settled (for testing) with grepping "mode..vepa" 
in /etc/libvirtd/qemu and it seems to work well (1s polling not even 
register in top).

Does libvirt support calling some external script when a new virtual 
machine is defined?

> No, I think the mode of the macvtap interface is set when the
> interface is created, and can't be changed later (i.e. it's a
> limitation of macvtap, not libvirt)

Again, it matches my results (ip link showing "operation not supported" 
when trying to change the mode at runtime). I hoped to miss something, 
but it does not seem the case...

Thanks.

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