Early processes (daemons) do not report audit events
Richard Guy Briggs
rgb at redhat.com
Fri Sep 11 16:24:38 UTC 2015
On 15/09/11, Kangkook Jee wrote:
> From the previous reply, I think I misunderstood your question regarding kernel command line.
> Here’s "cat /proc/cmdline” results for distributions that I’ve experimented.
>
> Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit):
> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-58-generic root=UUID=7505f862-ce46-49e5-9d1c-e4e307844889 ro text quiet splash vt.handoff=7
>
> Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit):
> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic root=UUID=5be789be-9b0c-463e-bd18-42bfa79fb24c ro quiet splash
>
> CentOS 7 (64-bit):
> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/centos-root ro rd.lvm.lv=centos/root rd.lvm.lv=centos/swap crashkernel=auto rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>
> CentOS 6 (64-bit):
> ro root=UUID=a7d44560-adcc-4000-9584-8b9fcf2afd74 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd_NO_MD SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=129M at 0M KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rd_NO_DM rhgb quiet
>
> I don’t see any audit=<value> entries from all examples above.
Yes, this is what I was seeking from you. And you are correct, none of
them have audit=1 as I was hoping from at least CentOS. There is a
chance that the CentOS kernel was compiled with audit=1 hardcoded, but I
think that is a pretty small chance...
I'll have to look at this closer... But any Debian and Fedora data
points that you can provide would certainly be useful.
> /Kangkook
>
> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, Richard Guy Briggs <rgb at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 15/09/10, Kangkook Jee wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I debugged a bit further to identify distributions that are affected by the issue.
> >> I repeated the same experiment with sshd from 3 more distributions.
> >>
> >> CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 (64-bit, 3.10.0-229.el7.x86_64): Problem NOT reproduced
> >> CentOS release 6.6 (64-bit, 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64): Problem NOT reproduced
> >> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (64-bit, 3.13.0-32-generic): Problem reproduced
> >
> > For each of these examples, what is the value of the kernel command line
> > "audit=<value>" if it is even present? It is possible that the CentOS
> > examples include "audit=1" while Ubuntu omits the line. "cat
> > /proc/cmdline" should tell you the answer.
> >
> >> After all, Ubuntu family are affected by the issue and I could confirm
> >> that results are inconsistent across two different distribution
> >> families.
> >
> > I would be curious what your results are with a recent Debian and with a
> > recent Fedora.
> >
> >> If you can let us know how can we workaround the issue, it will be a great help.
> >>
> >> Regards, Kangkook
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 11:50 PM, Kangkook Jee <aixer77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> We are developing custom user space audit agent to gather system wide system
> >>> call trace. While experimenting with various programs, we found out that
> >>> processes (daemons) that started early (along with the system bootstrapping) do
> >>> not report any audit events at all. These processes typically fall into PID
> >>> range of less than 2000. Here’s how I reproduced the symptom with sshd daemon.
> >>>
> >>> 1. Reboot the system
> >>>
> >>> 2. Add and enable audit events
> >>> # /sbin/auditctl -a exit,always -F arch=b64 -S clone -S close -S creat -S dup
> >>> -S dup2 -S dup3 -S execve -S exit -S exit_group -S fork -S open -S openat
> >>> -S unlink -S unlinkat -S vfork -S 288 -S accept -S bind -S connect
> >>> -S listen -S socket -S socketpair
> >>> # /sbin/auditctl -e1 -b 102400
> >>>
> >>> 3. Connect to the system via ssh
> >>> Audit messages generated only from child processes and none are seen from
> >>> the original daemon.
> >>>
> >>> 4. Restart sshd
> >>> # restart ssh
> >>>
> >>> 5. Connect again to the system via ssh
> >>> Now, we see audit messages from both parent and child processes.
> >>>
> >>> I did the experiment from Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS distribution (64-bit, kernel
> >>> version 3.13.0-58-generic).
> >>>
> >>> I first wonder whether this is intended behavior of audit framework or
> >>> not. If it is intended, I also want to know how can we configure auditd
> >>> differently to capture system calls from all processes.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot for your help in advance!
> >>>
> >>> Regards, Kangkook
> >>>
> >>
> >
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