From bugzilla at redhat.com Mon Apr 2 23:26:41 2012 From: bugzilla at redhat.com (bugzilla at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:26:41 -0400 Subject: [Lohit-devel-list] [Bug 766493] [mr] Marathi needs changes in Devanagari glyphs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201204022326.q32NQf4q004061@bzweb01.app.bz.hst.phx2.redhat.com> Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=766493 Fedora Update System changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fixed In Version|lohit-devanagari-fonts-2.5. |lohit-devanagari-fonts-2.5. |1-2.fc17 |1-2.fc16 --- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System 2012-04-02 19:26:40 EDT --- lohit-devanagari-fonts-2.5.1-2.fc16 has been pushed to the Fedora 16 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. From srik.lak at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 11:28:49 2012 From: srik.lak at gmail.com (Srikanth Lakshmanan) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:58:49 +0530 Subject: [Lohit-devel-list] Request for help on classical style Lohit Tamil font In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello all, ??, ??, ?? Glyphs -- Another classical font case. Madhanaharan (copied in cc) recently raised the issue of glyphs designed incorrectly across most Tamil fonts for ??, ??, ?? in Tamil wikipedia. The ? should start from the left of parent glyph instead of right is being mentioned as rule in select books which he has referenced in the discussion. Check ?? in the new Wikipedia logo(3rd glyph) he has designed which supposedly has the 'correct' rendering. While many newer fonts might not the have it properly, as another user in the discussion pointed out, ??, ??, ?? in its present form itself has been around for years in print, so it might not be correct to say one or the other "incorrect". But I see a case for changing in the lohit-tamil classical font. Should I file a bug? Should you have more questions, please reply and Mathanaharan might probably be able to answer them. Thanks [1] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%86%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF#.E0.AE.B5.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.95.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.95.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.AA.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.AA.E0.AF.80.E0.AE.9F.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.AF.E0.AE.BE.E0.AE.9A.E0.AF.8D_.E0.AE.9A.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.A9.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.A9.E0.AE.A4.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.A4.E0.AF.88_.E0.AE.AE.E0.AE.BE.E0.AE.B1.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.B1.E0.AF.81.E0.AE.B5.E0.AE.A4.E0.AE.B1.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.95.E0.AE.BE.E0.AE.A9_.E0.AE.B5.E0.AF.87.E0.AE.A3.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.9F.E0.AF.81.E0.AE.95.E0.AF.8B.E0.AE.B3.E0.AF.8D On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 13:33, pravin.d.s at gmail.com wrote: > > > On 20 February 2012 08:45, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > >> Hello people. I have using the Lohit Tamil font (among other Lohit fonts) >> for quite some time and like it very much. >> >> We would however like to add the classical style written forms for ?? ?? >> ?? (also seen in the right part of ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??) and of ?? ?? ?? ?? to >> the font. This classical style has been documented in the Unicode chapter >> on Tamil: http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.0.0/ch09.pdf p 300 >> and 301 (in the book, not of the PDF) under the name of "Ligatures with -aa >> in Traditional Tamil Orthography" and "Ligatures with -ai in Traditional >> Tamil Orthography". >> >> So far we are aware of only one Unicode Tamil font which supports it, >> e-Tamil OTC by Elmar Kniprath from >> http://www.aai.uni-hamburg.de/indtib/INDOLIPI/Indolipi.htm ( >> http://www.aai.uni-hamburg.de/indtib/INDOLIPI/Tamil.zip). You can check >> how that font renders the text: ?? ?? ?? / ?? ?? ?? / ?? ?? ?? / ?? ?? ?? >> ??. However we especially like the visual style of Lohit Tamil so we wanted >> to do a classical style Tamil font based on Lohit Tamil. >> >> Basically this requires four extra glyphs for ?? ?? ?? and the ligating >> vowel sign -AI which we call "elephant's trunk" due to the resemblance. By >> carefully crafting the metrics of the elephant's trunk and writing tables >> to replace the regular vowel sign -AI ? by this glyph when it occurs before >> (i.e. after reordering) ? ? ? ?, the desired output can be achieved as seen >> in the PDF. Elmar Kniprath's font also has done the same thing. >> >> Now we have designed the extra glyphs and put it at the end of the Lohit >> Tamil (v2.5.0) font (renamed to Lohit Tamil Classical) and assigned PUA >> codepoints for convenience for now. >> >> I however request the help of you people in creating the appropriate OT >> table entries to make this rendering possible. >> >> Of course, you can take these glyphs as our contribution to the Lohit >> project under the OFL if you would like to release a separate Lohit Tamil >> Classical font. >> > > By looking at it, looks like new ligature will conflict with the existing > Lohit Tamil rendering. Yes, "Lohit Tamil Classical" looks good to me. I > will check and do release of it. > > Do report bug against Lohit Tamil in Fedora with the new .sfd fie. > > >> >> Even if you do not wish to maintain such a font, it would be most kind of >> you if you could help us adding the required OT table entries. If you would >> prefer that we remove the name Lohit from such a separately released >> modified font (as per the OFL) we can do so. >> > > No props will do. It will be good to have both under same repo. So if any > changes happening in Lohit Tamil i can reflect those in variant as well. > > Best Regards, > Pravin Satpute > -- Regards Srikanth.L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pravin.d.s at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 04:34:31 2012 From: pravin.d.s at gmail.com (pravin.d.s at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:04:31 +0530 Subject: [Lohit-devel-list] Request for help on classical style Lohit Tamil font In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 24 April 2012 16:58, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > Hello all, > > ??, ??, ?? Glyphs -- Another classical font case. > > Madhanaharan (copied in cc) recently raised the issue of glyphs designed > incorrectly across most Tamil fonts for ??, ??, ?? in Tamil wikipedia. The > ? should start from the left of parent glyph instead of right is being > mentioned as rule in select books which he has referenced in the > discussion. Check ?? in the new Wikipedia logo(3rd glyph) he has designed > which supposedly has the 'correct' rendering. > > While many newer fonts might not the have it properly, as another user in > the discussion pointed out, ??, ??, ?? in its present form itself has > been around for years in print, so it might not be correct to say one or > the other "incorrect". But I see a case for changing in the lohit-tamil > classical font. > > Should I file a bug? Should you have more questions, please reply and > Mathanaharan might probably be able to answer them. > Yes, bug is recommended. Already i am working on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807068and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806591 , special thanks to Sriramana for making life easy with the patches as well. Do refer these bugs as well. I will commit Tamil Classical today to lohit svn repo. Regards, Pravin Satpute > > Thanks > > [1] > http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%86%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF#.E0.AE.B5.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.95.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.95.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.AA.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.AA.E0.AF.80.E0.AE.9F.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.AF.E0.AE.BE.E0.AE.9A.E0.AF.8D_.E0.AE.9A.E0.AE.BF.E0.AE.A9.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.A9.E0.AE.A4.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.A4.E0.AF.88_.E0.AE.AE.E0.AE.BE.E0.AE.B1.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.B1.E0.AF.81.E0.AE.B5.E0.AE.A4.E0.AE.B1.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.95.E0.AE.BE.E0.AE.A9_.E0.AE.B5.E0.AF.87.E0.AE.A3.E0.AF.8D.E0.AE.9F.E0.AF.81.E0.AE.95.E0.AF.8B.E0.AE.B3.E0.AF.8D > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 13:33, pravin.d.s at gmail.com wrote: > >> >> >> On 20 February 2012 08:45, Shriramana Sharma wrote: >> >>> Hello people. I have using the Lohit Tamil font (among other Lohit >>> fonts) for quite some time and like it very much. >>> >>> We would however like to add the classical style written forms for ?? ?? >>> ?? (also seen in the right part of ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??) and of ?? ?? ?? ?? to >>> the font. This classical style has been documented in the Unicode chapter >>> on Tamil: http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.0.0/ch09.pdf p 300 >>> and 301 (in the book, not of the PDF) under the name of "Ligatures with -aa >>> in Traditional Tamil Orthography" and "Ligatures with -ai in Traditional >>> Tamil Orthography". >>> >>> So far we are aware of only one Unicode Tamil font which supports it, >>> e-Tamil OTC by Elmar Kniprath from >>> http://www.aai.uni-hamburg.de/indtib/INDOLIPI/Indolipi.htm ( >>> http://www.aai.uni-hamburg.de/indtib/INDOLIPI/Tamil.zip). You can check >>> how that font renders the text: ?? ?? ?? / ?? ?? ?? / ?? ?? ?? / ?? ?? ?? >>> ??. However we especially like the visual style of Lohit Tamil so we wanted >>> to do a classical style Tamil font based on Lohit Tamil. >>> >>> Basically this requires four extra glyphs for ?? ?? ?? and the ligating >>> vowel sign -AI which we call "elephant's trunk" due to the resemblance. By >>> carefully crafting the metrics of the elephant's trunk and writing tables >>> to replace the regular vowel sign -AI ? by this glyph when it occurs before >>> (i.e. after reordering) ? ? ? ?, the desired output can be achieved as seen >>> in the PDF. Elmar Kniprath's font also has done the same thing. >>> >>> Now we have designed the extra glyphs and put it at the end of the Lohit >>> Tamil (v2.5.0) font (renamed to Lohit Tamil Classical) and assigned PUA >>> codepoints for convenience for now. >>> >>> I however request the help of you people in creating the appropriate OT >>> table entries to make this rendering possible. >>> >>> Of course, you can take these glyphs as our contribution to the Lohit >>> project under the OFL if you would like to release a separate Lohit Tamil >>> Classical font. >>> >> >> By looking at it, looks like new ligature will conflict with the existing >> Lohit Tamil rendering. Yes, "Lohit Tamil Classical" looks good to me. I >> will check and do release of it. >> >> Do report bug against Lohit Tamil in Fedora with the new .sfd fie. >> >> >>> >>> Even if you do not wish to maintain such a font, it would be most kind >>> of you if you could help us adding the required OT table entries. If you >>> would prefer that we remove the name Lohit from such a separately released >>> modified font (as per the OFL) we can do so. >>> >> >> No props will do. It will be good to have both under same repo. So if any >> changes happening in Lohit Tamil i can reflect those in variant as well. >> >> Best Regards, >> Pravin Satpute >> > > > > -- > Regards > Srikanth.L > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From samjnaa at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 05:20:23 2012 From: samjnaa at gmail.com (Shriramana Sharma) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:50:23 +0530 Subject: [Lohit-devel-list] Lohit fonts in Android ICS? Message-ID: Hello, I just upgraded my Sony Xperia Neo V to ICS yesterday evening and to my pleasant surprise found that Tamil (my mother tongue) script is now displayed properly apart from the Devanagari + Bengali which were there in Gingerbread. Not only that, the appearance of the fonts looks as if they are the Lohit collection of fonts. Even the Devanagari font has changed appearance since Gingerbread and now looks like the Lohit Devanagari on my computer. Anyone know for sure whether Lohit fonts are being used in Android? It would be a great feather in the cap for Lohit, no? -- Shriramana Sharma From pnemade at redhat.com Sun Apr 29 07:54:20 2012 From: pnemade at redhat.com (Parag Nemade) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:24:20 +0530 Subject: [Lohit-devel-list] Lohit fonts in Android ICS? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F9CF3AC.9070907@redhat.com> Hi, On 29/04/12 10:50, Shriramana Sharma wrote: > Hello, I just upgraded my Sony Xperia Neo V to ICS yesterday evening > and to my pleasant surprise found that Tamil (my mother tongue) script > is now displayed properly apart from the Devanagari + Bengali which > were there in Gingerbread. > > Not only that, the appearance of the fonts looks as if they are the > Lohit collection of fonts. Even the Devanagari font has changed > appearance since Gingerbread and now looks like the Lohit Devanagari > on my computer. Anyone know for sure whether Lohit fonts are being > used in Android? It would be a great feather in the cap for Lohit, no? I don't have any android phone that supports ICS yet but if you look into the Android 4.0.3 source code then you can see supported Lohit family fonts are Bengali, Devanagari and Tamil. The support has been added into fallback_fonts.xml file. Regards, Parag.