<html> <body> I agree. I think a new kind of wikipedia with very special editors could do it. Not to keep beating the horse, alive or dead, I will just point out that there is no reason ever that browsers shouldn't be at least as good at WYSIWYG authoring as a combination of DTP with scripting. For a reasonable wiki article about computing one should be able to not just show examples, but to let the reader try to create them. (Your point about BASIC brought into media. If we could do this in 1989 in Hypercard, why couldn't it be done in the mid 90s when the browsers were made? "Wiki" (Hawaiian pidgin for quick) should mean just quick publishing, not having to type markup text through a keyhole. And Ward Cunningham, the inventor of the wiki work-around, would definitely agree.He was an old Smalltalker, and then was a Hypercarder at Apple. He was aghast (as were most of the older hands) that modern authoring was omitted from the browsers. And, I think the "very special" editors would be critical. This is exactly what the writers of MolBioOfCell were (and terrific writers as well). There's something to be said about the democratic process of the wikipedia, but we need highly informed opinions, not just opinions. By the way, "a new kind of wikipedia with very special editors" is just what the $100 laptop needs to organize content for children and their helpers. Cheers, Alan At 12:46 PM 4/1/2006, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On 4/1/06, Alan Kay <<a href="mailto:alan.kay@squeakland.org">alan.kay@squeakland.org</a>> wrote: <dl> <dd>Hi Stephen -- <dd>I am very sympathetic with your point of view. <dd>I think that the only feasible way to do the equivalent of the "Mol Bio of the Cell" is on the net, and this would require quite a bit of work to organize. </dl> A wikipedia with good editors :). Sorry for the droll take on things.. I should try and take a positive look at things more often. I miss Creative Computing magazine. It was the one thing that got me very interested in computers as a kid. I would type in various BASIC items in the old Apple ][ and then figure out why they didnt work. Then I would go through their old articles on 'compare the shell sort with the bubble sort' which got me thinking about how to do various stuff. Today if I were going to do it.. I would take each game and put it into multiple languages with little problems in them. The kids would then go through and fix them. -- Stephen J Smoogen. CSIRT/Linux System Administrator </blockquote></body> </html>