<html> <body> There is a 7 minute video demo that Andy did in ca. 1990. Andy is currently at Google and you can write him for permission to stream the video. It's fun (and is done on a standard TV screen -- which approximates the color pixels currently contemplated for the HDLT). I'm not advocating this specific approach for HDLT, but just offer it as an example of a fun UI for children done by a very creative guy. Cheers, Alan At 08:57 AM 4/6/2006, Duncan Mak wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On 3/31/06, Alan Kay <<a href="mailto:alan.kay@squeakland.org">alan.kay@squeakland.org</a>> wrote: <dl> <dd>Check out my (quite) earlier chapter in The Art of Human-Computer Interface <dd>Design (Ed. B. Laurel) from 1990, on just that topic, and you will see that <dd>I agree also. So why do I like what Andy did? Especially for Frog? </dl> I tried to find more information on this work that Andy did for Frog. The only thing I learned from Googling is that it was called "Frox" and was a precursor to something similar to the modern day TiVo. It was done in collaboration with Hartmut Esslinger, the principal behind Frog Design, and that's about all that I can find. Do you have more information on this design, and in particular, how it differs from the Magic Cap? Thanks, Duncan.</blockquote></body> </html>