[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: [Ovirt-devel] root access required?
dmc at filteredperception.org
Wed Sep 10 02:59:33 UTC 2008
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 12:03:21PM -0400, Perry N. Myers wrote:
>> Ben Guthro wrote:
>>> In my endeavor to set up a build environment for our developers
>>> experimenting with oVirt / libvirt, I have come across a general
>>> dislike that the build of the ovirt managed node requires the user to
>>> be root.
>> The dependency on needing root is inherited from livecd-tools. So for us
>> to remove root as a requirement for building this needs to be changed
>> upstream. I'd start by posting questions/requests to the livecd mailing
>> lists and see if the developers there can easily fix this.
>> Once root is not longer required for livecd-tools, we will be able to
>> build everything in ovirt as non-root.
> I would also LOVE to see livecd-creator not needing root. Has anyone
> talked to the livecd developers about this (email CC'd)? I can't find
> any recent discussion on their mailing list about it though.
FWIW, I've done a lot of work over the years on my livecd creation
project (viros.org), and the main reason I worked on it instead of
solely on livecd-creator was a strong personal preference on not
requiring root. My method for succeeding involves using qemu/kvm
appliances running just from a highly customized fedora-based
initrd-only system. The result is that it is 6 odd times slower than
livecd-creator, but it doesn't require root. Thinking about the
pre/post-inst rpm scripts being run under the limited protection of a
chroot in livecd-creator just doesn't sit well with me.
So it's definitely doable, but there is a price to pay. Several aspects
that necessitated needing virtualization may now be doable via the fact
that fuse is enabled by default for users. But I think there are still
a few places you need root (virtualized or not, but not just fakeroot)
to get the job done.
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