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You have been removed from the list (fwd)


Could anyone here shed some light on this?  The system reports that I was
removed for an 'excessive amount of bounced mails', but I'd received several
messages yesterday w/o problems, and traffic isn't usually heavy enough here
to trigger something like this, I wouldn't think.

I also notice that the message quoted below was *not* sent to the list: it was
sent to pam-list-request.  So were messages really bouncing, or is this just
the mailing list software flipping out?

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 4 Apr 2000 21:54:02 -0000
From: pam-list-request@redhat.com
To: vorlon@netexpress.net
Subject: You have been removed from the list

Your mail address vorlon@netexpress.net has been removed
from the pam-list@redhat.com mailinglist.
It generated an excessive amount of bounced mails.

Before sending in a subscription request to
pam-list-request@redhat.com again, please ensure that
this problem has been resolved.	 When in doubt, ask your system
administrator or send mail to "postmaster".

The last one of those bounced mails has been quoted below:
>Received: (qmail 24477 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2000 21:53:06 -0000
>Received: from mail.redhat.com (
>  by lists.redhat.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2000 21:53:06 -0000
>Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [])
>	by mail.redhat.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28144
>	for <pam-list-request@redhat.com>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:53:05 -0400
>Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [])
>	by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA19249
>	for <pam-list-request@redhat.com>; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:54:12 -0700 (PDT)
>Received: from listmgr.corp.Adobe.COM  by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10026; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:52:31 -0700 (PDT)
>Received: by listmgr.corp.Adobe.COM (8.9.1a) id OAA20136; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
>Message-Id: <200004042156.OAA20136@listmgr.corp.Adobe.COM>
>From: Adobe San Jose mail forwarder <daemon@Adobe.COM>
>To: pam-list-request@redhat.com
>Subject: please update your mailing list
>Recently you sent a mail message to user "mcravit" at our site, or
>to a mailing list that included him or her. The message in question
>   To: pam-list@redhat.com
>   From: Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.net>
>   Subject: Re: use_authtok -- what purpose?
>"mcravit" is no longer an Adobe employee. While we will continue
>to forward the mail, we now generate this automatic reminder to
>encourage you to update your records or your mailing list: Please
>update your records to reflect the change in mcravit's mail address.
>mcravit's mail is now forwarded to 'nobody'. If the destination is
>nobody this means we do not have an address to forward to or the
>forwarding time has expired
>Thank you

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