[Patternfly] Truncation guidance for long names

[Andres Galante]

Hi Matt, we definitely need guides around truncation, not only on server
names but in general.

It's always a grey area how and when to truncate.

If working on Tendrl you can come up with some refomendations we can apply
them to our patterns.

Let me know if I can help in any way, we can test things up in different
use cases to see if it works

Thanks!

On Monday, 10 October 2016, Ju Lim <julim at redhat.com> wrote:

> This generally works for most names except I've found in certain contexts
> from previous experience that truncating in the front made more sense, e.g.
> "...xyz" for MAC Addresses and SAN nicknames as it was less useful doing it
> as "xyz..." since the beginning portion was repeated a lot and didn't help
> so much with uniquely identifying the object.
>
> An interesting consideration is if there is a need for truncation of an
> IPv6 addresses, how do we tackle this.  I know IPv6 already includes
> truncation in the spec, but there are going to be circumstances where we
> may need to go beyond this.  Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ju
>
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Greg Sheremeta <gshereme at redhat.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gshereme at redhat.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt / all,
>>
>> This gets tricky when you have machine names in your listings!
>> my_super_important_vm_1
>> my_super_important_vm_2
>> his_super_important_vm_1
>>
>> ^ Either way you truncate that "column", someone's going to lose some
>> important info, and looking through the column will be frustrating for the
>> users.
>>
>> In oVirt, we take the simple approach and truncate at the end. And, in
>> most places where there is truncation, hovering over the truncated string
>> shows you (via tooltip) the entire string:
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> My recommendation for PatternFly: recommend / default to end truncation
>> with "...". I like the hover-show-full-name feature -- that's something UX
>> people should discuss re: if it should exist and what it would look like.
>> (We use PF tooltips, but I could see other widgets being useful.)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Greg
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Matt Carrano <mcarrano at redhat.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mcarrano at redhat.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Patternflyers,
>>>
>>> I am currently working on the Tendrl storage console project and need to
>>> come up with some guidance on how to truncate long names that may appear in
>>> our UI.  I'm thinking of things like hostnames, disk names, and other types
>>> of objects that may take on a potentially long path name based on user
>>> naming.  PatternFly currently provides some general guidance, but no
>>> specific rules.
>>>
>>> I'm curious how you are handling this on other projects as I know it's a
>>> common problem.  Do you truncate in the middle of the string, the end of
>>> the string, or have another method?
>>>
>>> Any advice or examples will be welcome.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
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