[PatternFly] User Accessibility Consideration

[Alex Mayberry]

How do I determine which version of patternfly is in use?  We've just
upgraded from Satellite6.3 to 6.5.  I did try a quick google, but I'm only
getting references, nothing showing precisely what version.

As for the option I mentioned.  I am not a web developer, so I'm sure there
are myriad considerations I simply don't have the frame of reference to
consider.  But to clarify my thought, I was considering a user or session
flag that alters the way the site is rendered.  Similar to how mobile sites
have the link for "full desktop". Something like a "simplified" or
"accessibility" link.

In any case, it seems this is an issue already under consideration.  Thank
you for your time.  :-)

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:06 AM Jenn Giardino <jgiardin at redhat.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Alex,
>
> Thanks for sharing! User feedback is always appreciated! :-)
>
> In addition to Greg's question, is this in the context of PatternFly 3 or
> 4?
>
> One or our initiatives with PatternFly 4 is to meet WCAG 2.0 up to level
> AA. The concerns you expressed are something that we have been actively
> working on by increasing the target area within which a user has to click
> to interact with an element, in addition to increasing the spacing between
> elements. If your user was experiencing issues in the context of PatternFly
> 4, we would love to capture more feedback about their experience so that we
> can make more informed decisions as we work on this aspect of PatternFly.
>
>  I was curious if there is an option/toggle to require clicks to expand
>> vs. mouse-over?
>
>
> One of the potential downsides of this approach is that it can make the
> interaction more tedious for users who are using only a keyboard to
> interact with the UI, since things that become visible on hover must also
> become visible when it receives focus by hitting the Tab key. The end
> result of this for the keyboard-only user is that they have many more Tab
> key stops in the UI when these components become expanded on focus, than
> when these components remain in a collapsed state until click/Enter.
>
>
> Jenn Giardino
> Senior Interaction Designer
> User Experience Design Team
> Red Hat, Inc.
> 1-919-716-5045
> jgiardin at redhat.com
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:41 AM Greg Sheremeta <gshereme at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a specific component that the use finds challenging, for example
>> the left navigation?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:38 AM Alex Mayberry <amayberr at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone.  Just wanted to drop a note that I am working with a
>>> customer that has a difficult time holding the mouse steady, and the
>>> patternfly UI is proving quite difficult for them to use.
>>>
>>> With Chrome, the browser responded so quickly that it was causing a
>>> great deal of frustration.  With firefox, the issue doesn't seem to be
>>> present.
>>>
>>> I was curious if there is an option/toggle to require clicks to expand
>>> vs. mouse-over?
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Greg Sheremeta
>>
>> Senior Software Engineer, Service Delivery
>>
>> Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com/>
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