[Pki-devel] [PATCH] 0048-0049 Lightweight CAs: implement deletion

Christina Fu cfu at redhat.com
Wed Sep 30 18:26:03 UTC 2015


Hi Fraser,

Ade caught me on irc for some feedback.  I have not had chance to look 
at your patches, but I did get the gist of the subca delete issues from him.
Two key suggestions I have:
1. make sure the action is audited to its parent (audit log preserved)
2. make sure revocation is taken cared of of the subca's signing cert 
(and therefore invalidating all its signed certs)
    - and make sure the root CA is never deleted, so that the crls could 
be preserved and referenced to;
    - and note that ocsp will no longer work for the subca that is 
deleted, as the signing cert is gone for good

Regarding keeping the root CA, we had discussion on possibly keeping it 
in a "mothballed state"...I'll let Ade add to this.

thanks,
Christina

On 09/30/2015 07:00 AM, Fraser Tweedale wrote:
> Updated patch attached. Comments inline.
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 06:35:57PM +1000, Fraser Tweedale wrote:
>>> 3) It would be good to have a "Are you sure?" dialog on the CLI (with
>>> relevant override option).
>>>
>> Will do.
>>
> Done.
>
>>> 5) I have been thinking about ways to restrict delete.  We should
>>>     discuss and decide on options.  Some ideas:
>>>
>>>     a) Add CS.cfg option to disable deletes (for production say).
>>>
>> Disagree; don't want more config in flat files.  Having the knob in
>> the database would be better but I prefer a combination of other
>> options (see below).
>>
>>>     b) Add optional field (deletable) to the CA entry.  This can be
>>>        set by the creating admin to be True for test environments or
>>>        cases where we know the environment will be short lived, or
>>>        False for long lived CAs.  Default could be configurable.
>>>
>>>        CAs could still be deleted, but only by doing something
>>>        out-of-band --like modifying the db entry using pki-server
>>>        commands or similar.
>>>
>>>     c) Requiring CAs to be disabled before deleting them.
>>>
>> I'm in favour of this.
>>
>>>     d) Setting a separate ACL for delete, so that it would be easier
>>>        for admins to set special permissions for delete.
>>>
>> And in favour of this.
>>
>>>     ... others?
>>>
>> I like (c) plus (d) plus perhaps a pkispawn knob that controls
>> whether the admin-can-delete ACL gets added at the beginning.
>>
>> Let me know what you think and thanks for your feedback!
>>
> (c) and (d) are implemented in updated patch.  If you agree with (c)
> plus (d) plus pkispawn knob (I guess we'll call that (e)), I'll file
> a ticket for (e).
>
> Cheers,
> Fraser
>
>
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