[Pki-devel] Dogtag+FreeIPA: adapting to the Fedora mass orphaning

Fraser Tweedale ftweedal at redhat.com
Mon Mar 11 23:42:23 UTC 2019


On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 03:58:17PM +0100, François Cami wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The Java maintainers have orphaned most, if not all, of the Java stack
> in Fedora, in favor of modules:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/java-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/MQMRQVENBLDRS67WLNQ7EOCMSDI5WIET/
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ITDMQ7UACH4CL6754IMOYQ45QOBVPOX6/
> 
> As this change would lead into a lot of retired packages (maven and
> all that depends on it, like Dogtag), there was a proposal to create a
> SIG that would take care of these packages.
> It does not seem to have advanced much for the past month:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/I7AP2G7KUBGT6FP4GJBDBLCHZJ54YZG2/#I7AP2G7KUBGT6FP4GJBDBLCHZJ54YZG2
> 
> And it seems unrealistic for the Dogtag and FreeIPA teams to take over
> all these packages.
> 
> In the future packages will be able to BuildRequire modules:
> https://tree.taiga.io/project/modularity-wg/epic/12
> but it is not possible yet and there is no ETA.
> 
> The consequence is that Dogtag will be considered FTBFS as soon as
> maven and other dependencies are retired.
> Dogtag will therefore will be retired (along with FreeIPA) if
> maintenance for the dependencies is not picked up.
> 
> There does not seem to be a good solution except by moving both Dogtag
> and FreeIPA to modules (where we could BR: existing modules) before
> Fedora releng starts to retire our packages.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Cheers
> François
> 
We are already in a module for RHEL 8.  I don't perceive any major
disadvantage if we have to move to modules in Fedora too.  Are there
any big reasons, from a user point of view, against moving to
modules?

Thanks,
Fraser

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