[Pulp-dev] Pulp 3 tag

Brian Bouterse bbouters at redhat.com
Tue Apr 23 20:20:27 UTC 2019


David and I are planning to remove the tags mentioned on this thread on
Thursday the 25th and send the csv's that day with the record. We will also
disable updates for issues during that time to minimize the spam.

If there are any concerns, questions, or people want more time to discuss
please reach out.

In terms of tag use going forward, use the 'Pulp 2' tag for Pulp 2 issues.
Anything without the 'Pulp 2' tag is a Pulp3 items. The Pulp3 items with
the milestone 3.0 should indicate all tickets included in the 3.0 milestone
for pulpcore, i.e ( https://pulp.plan.io/versions/57 ). I think we should
delete the 3.0.0 "platform release" (which is different) since we don't use
it and it only is confuses us. That was created a long time ago when we had
no pulp3 processes yet. Here are issues with that set only 12 of them (
https://tinyurl.com/y3xknewl ). We should do this on Thursday too.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 1:08 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com> wrote:

> I'll wait on removing the Pulp 3 tags until Friday to leave more time for
> discussion.
>
> I noticed that there's also a "3.0.0" option for the Platform Release
> field. Should we set it for all issues that are at Modified+ with the Pulp
> 3 tag?
>
> David
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 9:26 AM Brian Bouterse <bbouters at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The thinking is that keeping 'historical' tags mixed in with actual tags
>> will make the 'Tag's field less usable and more confusing. The removal of
>> these historical tags uses the csv export serving at the historical record,
>> which was the best/easiest way we could come up with to store that
>> long-term without making even more changes to Redmine. Ideas and
>> suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> As an aside, next time we'll disable email updates during these
>> mass-changes. Thanks for the suggestion @pcreech.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 6:25 AM Ina Panova <ipanova at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Curiosity question - what we will benefit from removing tags Pulp 3,
>>> Pulp 3 MVP, and Pulp 3 RC Blocker?
>>> Except of tons notifications received? I would keep them on the issues
>>> as they are, for historical reasons of pulp3 development.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ina Panova
>>> Software Engineer| Pulp| Red Hat Inc.
>>>
>>> "Do not go where the path may lead,
>>>  go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:18 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Pulp 2 tag has been created in redmine. Please start using it to
>>>> tag issues that apply to Pulp 2. We’re also applying the new Pulp 2 tag to
>>>> issues without the Pulp 3 tag in the following projects in redmine:
>>>>
>>>> Debian
>>>> Crane
>>>> Docker
>>>> Nectar
>>>> OSTree
>>>> Packaging
>>>> Pulp
>>>> Puppet
>>>> Python
>>>> RPM
>>>>
>>>> This includes about 1161 issues. Please let us know if there are any
>>>> issues that shouldn’t be tagged or ones we have missed.
>>>>
>>>> The final step which we hope to do on Wednesday will be to remove the
>>>> tags: Pulp 3, Pulp 3 MVP, and Pulp 3 RC Blocker. We’ll make csv backups for
>>>> each before we remove them.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:52 PM Mike DePaulo <mikedep333 at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 to the "Pulp 2" tag.
>>>>> (I was just thinking this.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:28 PM Austin Macdonald <amacdona at redhat.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pulp2 tag sounds great to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 16:23 Brian Bouterse <bbouters at redhat.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 to making a 'Pulp 2' tag
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:16 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ve been thinking through this and I think there are 3 steps to
>>>>>>>> perform:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Create a Pulp 2 tag
>>>>>>>> 2. Assign the Pulp 2 tag to issues not tagged with Pulp 3
>>>>>>>> 3. Remove the Pulp 3 tag
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does that make sense? If so, I’d like to perform 1 and create the
>>>>>>>> Pulp 2 tag in the next few days so we can start adding it to issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’ll follow up with more concrete plans for steps 2 and 3 next week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:10 AM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cool, I will try to think through how to transition and we can
>>>>>>>>> discuss at the team meeting Monday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 11:04 AM Ina Panova <ipanova at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 to create a pulp2 tag after mass-close
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ina Panova
>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer| Pulp| Red Hat Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Do not go where the path may lead,
>>>>>>>>>>  go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 3:48 PM Brian Bouterse <
>>>>>>>>>> bbouters at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Great idea David!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once we get through tomorrow's mass-close, let's plan a
>>>>>>>>>>> transition to remove the Pulp3 tag and introduce a Pulp 2 tag instead.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:34 AM Dana Walker <dawalker at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dana Walker
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://red.ht/sig>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daniel Alley <dalley at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel like using the Pulp 3 tag is suboptimal since we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing out most of our Pulp 2 issues and a majority of the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs/tasks/stories are for Pulp 3. Wouldn’t it make more sense to create a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pulp 2 tag and use it on the rare Pulp 2 issues that get filed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed, +1 to having a "Pulp 2" tag to replace the Pulp 3 tag.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:19 AM David Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> daviddavis at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel like using the Pulp 3 tag is suboptimal since we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closing out most of our Pulp 2 issues and a majority of the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs/tasks/stories are for Pulp 3. Wouldn’t it make more sense to create a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pulp 2 tag and use it on the rare Pulp 2 issues that get filed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:27 AM Ina Panova <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ipanova at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to handle tag during the triage process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ina Panova
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer| Pulp| Red Hat Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Do not go where the path may lead,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:53 PM Brian Bouterse <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bbouters at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to Tanya's suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I have an action item to start a separate thread on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how we can plan-and-then-close all pulp2 bugs that we are not actively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on. I wanted to mention it here to identify it as a possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution to this issue since it was related. I'll send this today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:54 AM Tatiana Tereshchenko <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ttereshc at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, it's a part of triage or grooming process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Triage leader (for issues) and a person who grooms the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> task should pay attention to the tags.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tanya
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:47 PM David Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daviddavis at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking in redmine at our current sprint, I see several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues that don’t have Pulp 3 tag that should. Here are some:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4587
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4587>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4595
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4595>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4577
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4577>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4576
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4576>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4545
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://pulp.plan.io/issues/4545>Talking with the QE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> team, it’s difficult for them to get a feel for how much Pulp 2 vs Pulp 3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work there is. I guess we could try to get better about tagging issues when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we create them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, at least one issue is by someone outside the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> core Pulp team and I am not sure community members will know to tag their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues w/ Pulp 3 tag. Are there any other alternatives to ensuring Pulp 3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues get properly tagged?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
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