[Pulp-dev] Merging pulpcore.plugin into pulp/pulpcore repo?

Tatiana Tereshchenko ttereshc at redhat.com
Thu Oct 17 16:35:03 UTC 2019 

Do I understand correctly, that the suggestion is not to have versioned api
at all but document some conventions/expectations between pulpcore releases
and plugin API?

I wonder if there is still a benefit to keep it as a separate package and
as-is.
I understand that now we need to release both at the same time, however we
are in active development now and when things are more stable we might
benefit from having it separate.

It sounds like we are back to pulp2 case, where we would need to release
the core if any plugin api changes are needed, just this time we organised
code better.

Since we have a meetup next week, does it make sense to discuss it there?
Plans on what we want or expect to support and what kind of changes we
foresee in this area? Where the plugin api versioning will benefit us?
I see many +1s, so it might not worth a discussion and maybe I'm the only
one who is concerned.

Tanya


On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 5:58 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com> wrote:

> Done.
>
> David
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:49 AM Brian Bouterse <bmbouter at redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes the issue is here: https://pulp.plan.io/issues/5580
>>
>> If someone else can groom, I'm +1 to adding to sprint and labelling 3.0
>> blocker.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:01 AM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any chance we open an issue and get this on the sprint so that we can
>>> maybe release this change in RC8?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:49 AM Mike DePaulo <mikedep333 at redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:25 AM Brian Bouterse <bmbouter at redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I put some responses inline. I'm interested in what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:10 AM Mike DePaulo <mikedep333 at redhat.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Q: Will both pulpcore & pulpcore-plugin be published on PyPI as 1
>>>>>> package, or as 2?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I had imagined it would be 1. Users wouldn't be able to receive
>>>>> pulpcore.plugin except through an install of the pulpcore==3.y.z itself.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great, that makes things easier for users' manual installs, and easier
>>>> for containers/packaging.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> If so, how will you pip install from a pip VCS URL
>>>>>> <https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/reference/pip_install/#id32>? With
>>>>>> #egg=pulpcore , and then #egg=pulpcore-plugin ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You wouldn't perform the second one anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great, that makes things easier for users' manual installs, and easier
>>>> for containers/packaging.
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 5:17 AM Simon Baatz <gmbnomis at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 03:50:54PM -0400, Mike DePaulo wrote:
>>>>>>> >    +1.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 3:26 PM Pavel Picka <[1]
>>>>>>> ppicka at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> >    wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    +1
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:23 PM Dana Walker <[2]
>>>>>>> dawalker at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> >    wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    +1, more straightforward
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    Dana Walker
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    She / Her / Hers
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    Software Engineer, Pulp Project
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    [3]Red Hat
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    [4]dawalker at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >    [5][Logo-RedHat-Email.png]
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:55 PM David Davis <[6]
>>>>>>> daviddavis at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> >    wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    +1
>>>>>>> >    David
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:38 PM Daniel Alley <[7]
>>>>>>> dalley at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> >    wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    Very Large +1
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:10 PM Brian Bouterse <[8]
>>>>>>> bmbouter at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> >    wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    Having just released RC7, there are a variety of problems we are
>>>>>>> >    dealing with as a result of having pulpcore and pulpcore-plugin
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> >    in separate repos. @daviddavis and I were talking, and we want
>>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>>> >    for feedback on merging the code from pulpcore-plugin into
>>>>>>> pulpcore.
>>>>>>> >    I wrote this up as an issue here:  [9]
>>>>>>> https://pulp.plan.io/issues/5580
>>>>>>> >    Thanks!
>>>>>>> >    Brian
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>> >    Mike DePaulo
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>>>>>>> >    He / Him / His
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    Service Reliability Engineer, Pulp
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    [20]Red Hat
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>>>>>>> > References
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    1. mailto:ppicka at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >    2. mailto:dawalker at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >    3. https://www.redhat.com/
>>>>>>> >    4. mailto:dawalker at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >    5. https://www.redhat.com/
>>>>>>> >    6. mailto:daviddavis at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >    7. mailto:dalley at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >    8. mailto:bmbouter at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >    9. https://pulp.plan.io/issues/5580
>>>>>>> >   10. mailto:Pulp-dev at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >   11. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pulp-dev
>>>>>>> >   12. mailto:Pulp-dev at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >   13. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pulp-dev
>>>>>>> >   14. mailto:Pulp-dev at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >   15. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pulp-dev
>>>>>>> >   16. mailto:Pulp-dev at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >   17. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pulp-dev
>>>>>>> >   18. mailto:Pulp-dev at redhat.com
>>>>>>> >   19. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/pulp-dev
>>>>>>> >   20. https://www.redhat.com/
>>>>>>> >   21. https://www.redhat.com/
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>
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