[Pulp-list] [Pulp-dev] Github Discussions

David Davis daviddavis at redhat.com
Tue Aug 24 18:44:42 UTC 2021


AFAICT, there's no way to make discussions readonly so any discussions not
migrated over won't be accessible although I think we can still get to them
by temporarily enabling Discussions.

Looks like mcorr already migrated over your thread. :)

David


On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:01 AM Quirin Pamp <pamp at atix.de> wrote:

> Will it still be possible to read old discussion threads?
>
> If no, I would like it if this one could be migrated (for the conclusions
> reached in the thread):
>
> https://github.com/pulp/community/discussions/73
>
> Quirin (quba42)
>
> ________________________________________
> From: pulp-dev-bounces at redhat.com <pulp-dev-bounces at redhat.com> on behalf
> of David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com>
> Sent: 23 August 2021 15:30
> To: Melanie Corr
> Cc: pulp-list; Pulp Development List
> Subject: Re: [Pulp-dev] [Pulp-list]  Github Discussions
>
> If no one objects, I will be retiring Pulp's Github Discussions by
> September 1st. It seems like the options we are considering going forward
> are either staying on the mailing lists or moving to Discourse.
>
> If you need something migrated over to Discourse from Github Discussions,
> please let me know.
>
> David
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:55 AM Melanie Corr <mcorr at redhat.com<mailto:
> mcorr at redhat.com>> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Based on your feedback, we now have a Pulp Community Discourse:
> https://discourse.pulpproject.org/
>
> This is still a continuation of our evaluation of whether to move away
> from the mailing list as a primary communication method. We need you to
> tell us if this is helpful.
>
> We will wrap up any discussions that remain open on our GitHub Discussions
> page and migrate any open discussions.
>
> I'm getting everything ready. Please feel free to make suggestions.
>
> Please join us over on Discourse!
>
> Melanie
>
> Ar Aoine 18 Meith 2021 ag 17:01, scríobh Melanie Corr <mcorr at redhat.com
> <mailto:mcorr at redhat.com>>:
> Having been an admin on the Foreman Community Discourse for over a year, I
> am +1 to a using Discourse for community conversations.
> Greg Sutcliffe has data to prove the increase in community engagement
> after the move.
>
> Ar Aoine 18 Meith 2021 ag 16:33, scríobh Daniel Alley <dalley at redhat.com
> <mailto:dalley at redhat.com>>:
> And Matrix integration.
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/chatroom-integration-plugin-discourse-chat-integration/66522
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 1:11 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com<mailto:
> daviddavis at redhat.com>> wrote:
> I was rather surprised but Discourse did approve us for a free plan. The
> instance has been set up at https://pulp.discourse.group/. Feel free to
> try it out and experiment with it.
>
> However, the main limitation I see is the 50k pageviews per month limit.
> For reference, community.theforeman.org<http://community.theforeman.org>
> gets about 160-220k pageviews per month. So I think this would end up being
> a problem. I also checked with OSCI though and they apparently have
> experience with setting up Discourse instances for other open source
> communities. So I think they might be willing to set up a Discourse
> instance for us. I'm going to follow up and confirm.
>
> If we go this route, then we can also add the calendar plugin which would
> give us a public calendar like foreman has:
>
> https://community.theforeman.org/c/events/13/l/calendar
>
> I'm imagining we can use this to list events that are open to the public
> like triage/open floor and perhaps plugin team meetings.
>
> The more I use Discourse, the more I feel like it ticks all the boxes from
> granular notifications (weekly digests, ability to follow/unfollow
> categories, etc) to a mailing list mode users can enable to SSO integration
> with services like Github.
>
> David
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:59 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13 at gmail.com<mailto:
> ngompa13 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 7:21 PM David Davis <daviddavis at redhat.com<mailto:
> daviddavis at redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> > One of the main reasons we wanted to move off mailing lists is that
> signing up is inconvenient for users that may just want to ask a single
> question. But I agree that Github Discussions is not so great if users want
> to periodically monitor news and discussions for a project like Pulp. I
> wonder perhaps if Discourse[0] would be a better fit (see Foreman's use of
> discourse as an example[1]). It provides a mailing list mode that users can
> enable if they want to interact solely via email. And also, it also offers
> more granular control of notifications and auth with services like Github.
> >
>
> The Fedora mailing list system (HyperKitty) actually manages to strike
> a good balance here. You can sign in with OIDC/Social Login with
> Fedora, Google, etc. and post to a list and only be subscribed to that
> thread. Or you can subscribe to the whole list and do things like we
> do now.
>
> > One of the main concerns we've had around using Discourse is hosting it
> ourselves but it does look like Discourse provides a free plan for open
> source projects[2]. It has some limitations (not sure if they'd be an issue
> for us?) but I've submitted an application to see if we qualify. I should
> hear back in a couple days.
> >
>
> I suspect not, but it'd be an interesting surprise if we qualified.
>
>
>
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