x over ppp

[tyche]

On Wednesday 23 June 2004 05:04 pm, Rick Stevens wrote:
> tyche wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 June 2004 12:42 pm, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >>Jeff Kinz wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:31:50PM -0400, tyche wrote:
> >>>>is there someway to pipe an X server out over a ppp connection to a
> >>>>windows user with out getting into an expensive suite of software on
> >>>> teh windows end?
> >>>
> >>>Yes , there is,
> >>>Install cygwin on your Windows system - it includes a free X-windows
> >>>servers so that you can run X-windows on your Win box.
> >>>Then you can tunnel the X-windows connection via IP thru your ppp
> >>>connection.
> >>>
> >>>Your connection needs to be faster than dial up, or it will be painful
> >>>to use.
> >>>
> >>>Cygwin is from "Cygnus" who is now owned by RedHat and the download
> >>>should be freely available on their website somewhere.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>To learn how to do remote "X" connections check www.tldp.org, and look
> >>>at the "HOW-TO" docs list.  There is one which deals specifically
> >>>on how to do that.  Searching the list for "remote" should find it.
> >>
> >>You can also use VNC via an SSH tunnel over a PPP connection (don't
> >>forget to us the compression option on SSH).
> >>
> >>By the way, double check the "X server" bit.  The X server is the
> >>machine with the keyboard, mouse and graphic screen.  The X client is
> >>the remote program that needs the X server to display its output.  It
> >>seems backwards at first, but that's the way it is.
> >
> > thanks guys, was hoping there was a switch or something to startx, but it
> > wouldnt be that simple.
>
> That would be useless as "startx" starts the X server on the local
> machine.  If you want the Linux GUI stuff to show up on your Windows
> machine, you DON'T run an X server on the Linux box, you run one on the
> Windows box (Windows must be the X server).  To do that you must install
> Cygwin or another X server package on your Windows box and use its
> "startx" equivalent to start the server.  You can then rlogin or ssh to
> your Linux box, start an X client there (Mozilla, for example), and have
> Mozilla's ouput appear on your Windows box.
>
> Another option:
>
> If you're familiar with Windows' remote desktop thing, you can install
> VNC on both machines (http://www.tightvnc.com), start the VNC server on
> your Linux box and use the VNC client on your Windows box.  A window
> will open on your Windows box which represents the X desktop on the
> Linux box.  When you move the mouse inside the X desktop or type stuff
> in there, it's as if you were doing it right on the Linux box itself.
>
> Once again, none of this is really usable if you're using dialup as the
> speed just isn't there to support a remote GUI session.  Remote GUIs
> really demand a broadband connection at the least (DSL, cable modem,
> fractional T1, something like that).  With dialup, you're better off
> using ssh and sticking with text operations.
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thanks, wouldnt even think of doing it over a dialup.

tyche