From dabwang at rogers.com Wed Sep 1 02:45:09 2004 From: dabwang at rogers.com (Dabin Wang) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:45:09 -0400 Subject: Q: about reformat disk where Linux and Window coexist In-Reply-To: <20040831225543.GC27122@bobcat.cumbytel.com> References: <4133AD84.7030407@rogers.com> <20040831014611.GA20208@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <41340DE0.5080308@rogers.com> <20040831174458.GA25912@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <4134D431.1050106@rogers.com> <20040831225543.GC27122@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: <413537B5.6020309@rogers.com> No, your label is not correct. For example, 6722 is the size of partition (MB). In fact, the totol size is 10 GB. Dave Bob McClure Jr wrote: >On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 03:40:33PM -0400, Dabin Wang wrote: > > >>All fdisk infor from DOS are those that were sent before. Partition >>Magic has more infor. After I reinstalled Linux, it looks like the >>following: >> >>local Disk (C:) FAT32 6722 6644 78 Active Primary >>/boot(*.) Linux Ext2 23 3 20 None Primary >>(*.) Extended 2980 2980 none Primary >>/(*.) Linux Ext2 2910 757 2152 None Logical >>SWAPSPACE Linux Swap 70 0.0 70 None Logical >> >> >>Dave >> >> > >I'm going to guess at column headings here and attempt to reformat >the listing. > > Assigned to FSType End Start Cylinders Act PartType > > >>local Disk (C:) FAT32 6722 6644 78 Active Primary >>/boot(*.) Linux Ext2 23 3 20 None Primary >>(*.) Extended 2980 2980 ?? none Primary >>/(*.) Linux Ext2 2910 757 2152 None Logical >>SWAPSPACE Linux Swap 70 0.0 70 None Logical >> >> > >I'd certainly rather have some partition numbers, and I don't >understand the data I've labeled "End", "Start", and "Cylinders", >because it looks like large parts of the disk are unused. I guess my >labels are wrong, but that's the best I can make of it. > >Meanwhile, you've reinstalled Linux. > >- Does it boot? > >- Does it work? > >- Do you still want to punt it or do you want it to work? > >Cheers, > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Sep 1 16:53:25 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 11:53:25 -0500 Subject: Q: about reformat disk where Linux and Window coexist In-Reply-To: <413537B5.6020309@rogers.com> References: <4133AD84.7030407@rogers.com> <20040831014611.GA20208@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <41340DE0.5080308@rogers.com> <20040831174458.GA25912@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <4134D431.1050106@rogers.com> <20040831225543.GC27122@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <413537B5.6020309@rogers.com> Message-ID: <20040901165325.GC2531@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Please don't top-post. Please put your response at the bottom what you are replying to, or intersperse your comments with the previous post where appropriate. Answer: Because it makes it easier to follow the sequence of discussion. Question: Why should I bottom-post? On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 10:45:09PM -0400, Dabin Wang wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > >On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 03:40:33PM -0400, Dabin Wang wrote: > > > > > >>All fdisk infor from DOS are those that were sent before. Partition > >>Magic has more infor. After I reinstalled Linux, it looks like the > >>following: > >> > >>local Disk (C:) FAT32 6722 6644 78 Active Primary > >>/boot(*.) Linux Ext2 23 3 20 None Primary > >>(*.) Extended 2980 2980 none Primary > >>/(*.) Linux Ext2 2910 757 2152 None Logical > >>SWAPSPACE Linux Swap 70 0.0 70 None Logical > >> > >> > >>Dave > >> > >> > > > >I'm going to guess at column headings here and attempt to reformat > >the listing. > > > >Assigned to FSType End Start Cylinders Act PartType > > Revised to: Assigned to FSType Size ?? ?? Act PartType > > > >>local Disk (C:) FAT32 6722 6644 78 Active Primary > >>/boot(*.) Linux Ext2 23 3 20 None Primary > >>(*.) Extended 2980 2980 ?? none Primary > >>/(*.) Linux Ext2 2910 757 2152 None Logical > >>SWAPSPACE Linux Swap 70 0.0 70 None Logical > >> > >> > > > >I'd certainly rather have some partition numbers, and I don't > >understand the data I've labeled "End", "Start", and "Cylinders", > >because it looks like large parts of the disk are unused. I guess my > >labels are wrong, but that's the best I can make of it. > > No, your label is not correct. For example, 6722 is the size of > partition (MB). In fact, the totol size is 10 GB. > > Dave Ok, what are the other columns? And what of the other questions below? Where are we going? > >Meanwhile, you've reinstalled Linux. > > > >- Does it boot? > > > >- Does it work? > > > >- Do you still want to punt it or do you want it to work? > > > >Cheers, Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Sep 1 17:11:25 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:11:25 -0700 Subject: Ssh - delayed login Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB017EAFBD@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> OS: Redhat ES 3.0 Package: openssh-server-3.6.1p2-18 When I connect to this machine using Putty I'll instantly get this: login as: I type in my user name OR even root and 2-10 seconds later I'll get this: root at rpdssvr's password: Reverse lookups are instantaneous, so are forward DNS lookups. The question is, what could be causing the delay before the password field shows up. Our YDL machines aren't doing this, the password field returns as fast as Putty will allow it. It's version of ssh server is: openssh-server-3.5p1-4 Thanks, Travis From ctar at loc.gov Wed Sep 1 19:11:24 2004 From: ctar at loc.gov (Cristian Tarhon) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:11:24 -0400 Subject: Ssh - delayed login Message-ID: Probably ssh is looking for the IP address of the machine on all of the dns sources (hosts and the dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf) If any are missing, it will wait for a timeout. Cristian >>> Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com 9/1/2004 1:11:25 PM >>> OS: Redhat ES 3.0 Package: openssh-server-3.6.1p2-18 When I connect to this machine using Putty I'll instantly get this: login as: I type in my user name OR even root and 2-10 seconds later I'll get this: root at rpdssvr's password: Reverse lookups are instantaneous, so are forward DNS lookups. The question is, what could be causing the delay before the password field shows up. Our YDL machines aren't doing this, the password field returns as fast as Putty will allow it. It's version of ssh server is: openssh-server-3.5p1-4 Thanks, Travis _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Sep 1 23:05:56 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 16:05:56 -0700 Subject: Ssh - delayed login Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9A0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> nope, that wasn't it, turns out it was this: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=101157 The bug returned in the package shipped with ES3.0 and was fixed with errata openssh-3.6.1p2-33.30.1 Not a DNS or IP issue. Thanks, Trvais _____ From: Cristian Tarhon [mailto:ctar at loc.gov] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:11 PM To: Waldher, Travis R; redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Ssh - delayed login Probably ssh is looking for the IP address of the machine on all of the dns sources (hosts and the dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf) If any are missing, it will wait for a timeout. 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Message-ID: <008701c490d4$6446bb00$e30000c0@neucaa1cdfc96a> My computer's OS is Red Hat Linux7.3,I can ping this Linux computer from other computers,but in this Linux computer,I ping publish net,I fount I can't ping it,and I can't visit public net in Red Hat Linux7.3,for example: [root at www root]# ping www.sina.com ping: unknown host www.sina.com Then I try ping gateway,I got follow result: [root at www root]# ping 210.xx.xx.xx PING 210.xx.xx.xx (210.xx.xx.xx) from 210.xx.xx.xx : 56(84) bytes of data. >From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=1 Packet filtered >From 210.xx.xx.x x icmp_seq=2 Packet filtered >From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=3 Packet filtered >From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=4 Packet filtered >From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=5 Packet filtered --- 210.xx.xx.xx ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% loss, time 4012ms Then I try to ping DNS Server,I found I can't ping it! [root at www root]# ping 210.x.x.x connect: Network is unreachable Then I use Windows OS,I configure IP address,gateway and DNS as same as Red Hat Linux7.3,I found I can ping public net and visit public net,like follows: C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.sina.com Pinging us.sina.com.cn [66.77.9.79] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=237 Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237 Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=237 Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237 Ping statistics for 66.77.9.79: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 181ms, Maximum = 190ms, Average = 185ms Why can't I ping and visit public net under Red Hat Linux7.3? I am a beginer in Linux,please give me detail command. Thanks in advance! Best regards, Edward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <008701c490d4$6446bb00$e30000c0@neucaa1cdfc96a> References: <008701c490d4$6446bb00$e30000c0@neucaa1cdfc96a> Message-ID: <1094130355.3221.19.camel@jMOD.home> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 06:05, Edward King wrote: > My computer's OS is Red Hat Linux7.3,I can ping this Linux computer > from other computers,but in this Linux computer,I ping publish net,I > fount I can't ping it,and I can't visit public net in Red Hat > Linux7.3,for example: > [root at www root]# ping www.sina.com > ping: unknown host www.sina.com > > Then I try ping gateway,I got follow result: > [root at www root]# ping 210.xx.xx.xx > PING 210.xx.xx.xx (210.xx.xx.xx) from 210.xx.xx.xx : 56(84) bytes of > data. > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=1 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.x x icmp_seq=2 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=3 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=4 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=5 Packet filtered > > --- 210.xx.xx.xx ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% loss, time 4012ms > > Then I try to ping DNS Server,I found I can't ping it! > [root at www root]# ping 210.x.x.x > connect: Network is unreachable > > Then I use Windows OS,I configure IP address,gateway and DNS as same > as Red Hat Linux7.3,I found I can ping public net and visit public > net,like follows: > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.sina.com > > Pinging us.sina.com.cn [66.77.9.79] with 32 bytes of data: > > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=237 > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237 > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=237 > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237 > > Ping statistics for 66.77.9.79: > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: > Minimum = 181ms, Maximum = 190ms, Average = 185ms > > Why can't I ping and visit public net under Red Hat Linux7.3? I am a > beginer in Linux,please give me detail command. > Thanks in advance! > > Best regards, > Edward > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe Many ISP's and network servers "turn off" or limit the ping replies since this can be used for denial of service attacks. -- jludwig From dabwang at rogers.com Thu Sep 2 14:58:12 2004 From: dabwang at rogers.com (Dabin Wang) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:58:12 -0400 Subject: Why Linux can't visit public net? In-Reply-To: <008701c490d4$6446bb00$e30000c0@neucaa1cdfc96a> References: <008701c490d4$6446bb00$e30000c0@neucaa1cdfc96a> Message-ID: <41373504.2050903@rogers.com> In general, it seems that the ping packets are blocked by firewall or proxy gateway. Dave Edward King wrote: > My computer's OS is Red Hat Linux7.3,I can ping this Linux computer > from other computers,but in this Linux computer,I ping publish net,I > fount I can't ping it,and I can't visit public net in Red Hat > Linux7.3,for example: > [root at www root]# ping www.sina.com > ping: unknown host www.sina.com > Then I try ping gateway,I got follow result: > [root at www root]# ping 210.xx.xx.xx > PING 210.xx.xx.xx (210.xx.xx.xx) from 210.xx.xx.xx : 56(84) bytes of data. > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=1 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.x x icmp_seq=2 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=3 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=4 Packet filtered > From 210.xx.xx.xx icmp_seq=5 Packet filtered > --- 210.xx.xx.xx ping statistics --- > 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% loss, time 4012ms > Then I try to ping DNS Server,I found I can't ping it! > [root at www root]# ping 210.x.x.x > connect: Network is unreachable > Then I use Windows OS,I configure IP address,gateway and DNSas same as > Red Hat Linux7.3,I found I can ping public net and visit public > net,like follows: > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.sina.com > > Pinging us.sina.com.cn [66.77.9.79] with 32 bytes of data: > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=237 > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237 > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=237 > Reply from 66.77.9.79: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237 > Ping statistics for 66.77.9.79: > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: > Minimum = 181ms, Maximum = 190ms, Average = 185ms > Whycan't I ping and visit public net underRed Hat Linux7.3? I am a > beginer in Linux,please give me detail command. > Thanks in advance! > Best regards, > Edward > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Sep 2 16:20:52 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:20:52 -0700 Subject: Why Linux can't visit public net? Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9A1@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> >From: Edward King [mailto:zhangsc at neusoft.com] > > Then I use Windows OS,I configure IP address,gateway and DNS as same as Red Hat Linux7.3,I found I can ping public net and visit public net,like >follows: Linx pings via ICMP, Windows via UDP. (IIRC) A lot of places turn off ICMP echo requests to avoid denial of service attacks. So while you can't ping it, it really is there. From bho at gmx.net Fri Sep 3 13:08:37 2004 From: bho at gmx.net (Benjamin Hornberger) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:08:37 -0400 Subject: rpm and up2date don't work any more Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903090343.026b0570@pop.gmx.net> Hi all, I have the following problem with RHEL AS3: Something went wrong when I did up2date the last time (somehow it froze). Now neither up2date nor rpm work any more. If I start either one of them, nothing happens, and I have to kill the process from a second terminal. Any recommendations what to do? Get the rpm source and compile? Thanks for your help, Benjamin From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Fri Sep 3 14:30:34 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:30:34 -0500 Subject: rpm and up2date don't work any more In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903090343.026b0570@pop.gmx.net> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903090343.026b0570@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: <20040903143034.GA19938@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 09:08:37AM -0400, Benjamin Hornberger wrote: > Hi all, > > I have the following problem with RHEL AS3: Something went wrong when I did > up2date the last time (somehow it froze). Now neither up2date nor rpm work > any more. If I start either one of them, nothing happens, and I have to > kill the process from a second terminal. Any recommendations what to do? > Get the rpm source and compile? > > Thanks for your help, > Benjamin Well, the usual fix is to rm /var/lib/rpm/__db.00* rpm --rebuilddb Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Sep 3 16:00:25 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:00:25 -0700 Subject: YP Headaches Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> When I try to change my NIS password: [trw3016 at rpdsppc3 trw3016]$ yppasswd -p yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("~hostname~"). On the NIS Server there is this: program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100024 1 udp 32768 status 100024 1 tcp 32768 status 100004 2 udp 797 ypserv 100004 1 udp 797 ypserv 100004 2 tcp 800 ypserv 100004 1 tcp 800 ypserv 600100069 1 udp 806 fypxfrd 600100069 1 tcp 808 fypxfrd 100021 1 udp 32795 nlockmgr 100021 3 udp 32795 nlockmgr 100021 4 udp 32795 nlockmgr 100021 1 tcp 32903 nlockmgr 100021 3 tcp 32903 nlockmgr 100021 4 tcp 32903 nlockmgr 100011 1 udp 951 rquotad 100011 2 udp 951 rquotad 100011 1 tcp 970 rquotad 100011 2 tcp 970 rquotad 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs 100005 1 udp 973 mountd 100005 1 tcp 989 mountd 100005 2 udp 973 mountd 100005 2 tcp 989 mountd 100005 3 udp 973 mountd 100005 3 tcp 989 mountd 100007 2 udp 866 ypbind 100007 1 udp 866 ypbind 100007 2 tcp 869 ypbind 100007 1 tcp 869 ypbind 100009 1 udp 935 yppasswdd 391002 2 tcp 32990 sgi_fam And: [root at rpdssvr yp]# ps -ef |grep yppass root 3726 1 0 08:46 ? 00:00:00 rpc.yppasswdd root 4506 3421 0 08:59 pts/1 00:00:00 grep yppass From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Sep 3 16:22:55 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:22:55 -0700 Subject: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AC@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Waldher, Travis R > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:00 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: YP Headaches > Importance: High > > > When I try to change my NIS password: > > [trw3016 at rpdsppc3 trw3016]$ yppasswd -p > yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("~hostname~"). > > On the NIS Server there is this: > > program vers proto port > 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper > 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper > 100024 1 udp 32768 status > 100024 1 tcp 32768 status > 100004 2 udp 797 ypserv > 100004 1 udp 797 ypserv > 100004 2 tcp 800 ypserv > 100004 1 tcp 800 ypserv > 600100069 1 udp 806 fypxfrd > 600100069 1 tcp 808 fypxfrd > 100021 1 udp 32795 nlockmgr > 100021 3 udp 32795 nlockmgr > 100021 4 udp 32795 nlockmgr > 100021 1 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > 100021 3 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > 100021 4 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > 100011 1 udp 951 rquotad > 100011 2 udp 951 rquotad > 100011 1 tcp 970 rquotad > 100011 2 tcp 970 rquotad > 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs > 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs > 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs > 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs > 100005 1 udp 973 mountd > 100005 1 tcp 989 mountd > 100005 2 udp 973 mountd > 100005 2 tcp 989 mountd > 100005 3 udp 973 mountd > 100005 3 tcp 989 mountd > 100007 2 udp 866 ypbind > 100007 1 udp 866 ypbind > 100007 2 tcp 869 ypbind > 100007 1 tcp 869 ypbind > 100009 1 udp 935 yppasswdd > 391002 2 tcp 32990 sgi_fam > > And: > > [root at rpdssvr yp]# ps -ef |grep yppass > root 3726 1 0 08:46 ? 00:00:00 rpc.yppasswdd > root 4506 3421 0 08:59 pts/1 00:00:00 grep yppass Ok let's add to the weirdness. My NIS Master has two NIC's. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:8F:A9:30 inet addr:136.203.75.118 Bcast:136.203.75.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F5:6C:FF inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 On my 192 client (referencing subnet #) I get this error running yppasswd: [username at 192client username]$ yppasswd yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com"). If I attempt to telnet to the port indicated in the earlier message: On my 136 client, yppasswd works. [username at 136client username]$ yppasswd Changing NIS account information for trw3016 on rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com. Please enter old password: Sorry. Any ideas? I'm REALLY confused now. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 3 16:58:56 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 09:58:56 -0700 Subject: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AC@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AC@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4138A2D0.2000908@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > >>From: Waldher, Travis R >>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:00 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: YP Headaches >>Importance: High >> >> >>When I try to change my NIS password: >> >>[trw3016 at rpdsppc3 trw3016]$ yppasswd -p >>yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("~hostname~"). >> >>On the NIS Server there is this: >> >> program vers proto port >> 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper >> 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper >> 100024 1 udp 32768 status >> 100024 1 tcp 32768 status >> 100004 2 udp 797 ypserv >> 100004 1 udp 797 ypserv >> 100004 2 tcp 800 ypserv >> 100004 1 tcp 800 ypserv >> 600100069 1 udp 806 fypxfrd >> 600100069 1 tcp 808 fypxfrd >> 100021 1 udp 32795 nlockmgr >> 100021 3 udp 32795 nlockmgr >> 100021 4 udp 32795 nlockmgr >> 100021 1 tcp 32903 nlockmgr >> 100021 3 tcp 32903 nlockmgr >> 100021 4 tcp 32903 nlockmgr >> 100011 1 udp 951 rquotad >> 100011 2 udp 951 rquotad >> 100011 1 tcp 970 rquotad >> 100011 2 tcp 970 rquotad >> 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs >> 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs >> 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs >> 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs >> 100005 1 udp 973 mountd >> 100005 1 tcp 989 mountd >> 100005 2 udp 973 mountd >> 100005 2 tcp 989 mountd >> 100005 3 udp 973 mountd >> 100005 3 tcp 989 mountd >> 100007 2 udp 866 ypbind >> 100007 1 udp 866 ypbind >> 100007 2 tcp 869 ypbind >> 100007 1 tcp 869 ypbind >> 100009 1 udp 935 yppasswdd >> 391002 2 tcp 32990 sgi_fam >> >>And: >> >>[root at rpdssvr yp]# ps -ef |grep yppass >>root 3726 1 0 08:46 ? 00:00:00 rpc.yppasswdd >>root 4506 3421 0 08:59 pts/1 00:00:00 grep yppass > > > Ok let's add to the weirdness. My NIS Master has two NIC's. > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:8F:A9:30 > inet addr:136.203.75.118 Bcast:136.203.75.255 > Mask:255.255.255.0 > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F5:6C:FF > inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > On my 192 client (referencing subnet #) I get this error running > yppasswd: > > [username at 192client username]$ yppasswd > yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host > ("rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com"). > > If I attempt to telnet to the port indicated in the earlier message: > > On my 136 client, yppasswd works. > > [username at 136client username]$ yppasswd > Changing NIS account information for trw3016 on rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com. > Please enter old password: > Sorry. > > Any ideas? I'm REALLY confused now. Have you checked your firewall configuration on the master server? It looks like you have some things blocked there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Sep 3 17:36:43 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:36:43 -0700 Subject: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AE@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:59 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >>From: Waldher, Travis R > >>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:00 AM > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>Subject: YP Headaches > >>Importance: High > >> > >> > >>When I try to change my NIS password: > >> > >>[trw3016 at rpdsppc3 trw3016]$ yppasswd -p > >>yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("~hostname~"). > >> > >>On the NIS Server there is this: > >> > >> program vers proto port > >> 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper > >> 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper > >> 100024 1 udp 32768 status > >> 100024 1 tcp 32768 status > >> 100004 2 udp 797 ypserv > >> 100004 1 udp 797 ypserv > >> 100004 2 tcp 800 ypserv > >> 100004 1 tcp 800 ypserv > >> 600100069 1 udp 806 fypxfrd > >> 600100069 1 tcp 808 fypxfrd > >> 100021 1 udp 32795 nlockmgr > >> 100021 3 udp 32795 nlockmgr > >> 100021 4 udp 32795 nlockmgr > >> 100021 1 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > >> 100021 3 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > >> 100021 4 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > >> 100011 1 udp 951 rquotad > >> 100011 2 udp 951 rquotad > >> 100011 1 tcp 970 rquotad > >> 100011 2 tcp 970 rquotad > >> 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs > >> 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs > >> 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs > >> 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs > >> 100005 1 udp 973 mountd > >> 100005 1 tcp 989 mountd > >> 100005 2 udp 973 mountd > >> 100005 2 tcp 989 mountd > >> 100005 3 udp 973 mountd > >> 100005 3 tcp 989 mountd > >> 100007 2 udp 866 ypbind > >> 100007 1 udp 866 ypbind > >> 100007 2 tcp 869 ypbind > >> 100007 1 tcp 869 ypbind > >> 100009 1 udp 935 yppasswdd > >> 391002 2 tcp 32990 sgi_fam > >> > >>And: > >> > >>[root at rpdssvr yp]# ps -ef |grep yppass > >>root 3726 1 0 08:46 ? 00:00:00 rpc.yppasswdd > >>root 4506 3421 0 08:59 pts/1 00:00:00 grep yppass > > > > > > Ok let's add to the weirdness. My NIS Master has two NIC's. > > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:8F:A9:30 > > inet addr:136.203.75.118 Bcast:136.203.75.255 > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F5:6C:FF > > inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > > > On my 192 client (referencing subnet #) I get this error running > > yppasswd: > > > > [username at 192client username]$ yppasswd > > yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host > > ("rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com"). > > > > If I attempt to telnet to the port indicated in the earlier message: > > > > On my 136 client, yppasswd works. > > > > [username at 136client username]$ yppasswd Changing NIS account > > information for trw3016 on rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com. > > Please enter old password: > > Sorry. > > > > Any ideas? I'm REALLY confused now. > > Have you checked your firewall configuration on the master > server? It looks like you have some things blocked there. Just checked: [root at rpdssvr etc]# service iptables status Firewall is stopped. From bho at gmx.net Fri Sep 3 17:41:49 2004 From: bho at gmx.net (Benjamin Hornberger) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 13:41:49 -0400 Subject: up2date problems with new kernel Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903131042.02679958@pop.gmx.net> Hi all, I am having the following problem on RHEL AS3: When running up2date, there was an error message saying something about the module ieee1394 not being available for the new kernel (I don't know how to retrieve the exact error message). Now it looks like the new kernel won't be used, even though the kernel as well as the kernel-smp-unsupported package were updated by up2date (I need the kernel-smp-unsupported package for firewire support). Even though I have eight kernels available, there are only four entries in /etc/grub.conf (see below). It looks like the last kernel update (one before today's) wasn't reflected there either. Also, grub by default boots the non-smp kernel. The "default=1" entry in /etc/grub.conf which I inserted manually recently now disappeared (after today's up2date, I guess). Why doesn't up2date enter the new kernels into grub.conf? If I enter them manually, is there anything important I have to consider? What will happen after the next up2date (in case a new kernel is available again?)? Let me know if you need more information. I also made /var/log/up2date at http://xray1.physics.sunysb.edu/~hornberg/scratch/up2date if you want to take a look. Thanks for your help, Benjamin [root at xray1 boot]# ll vmlinuz* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1241379 Jun 29 18:27 vmlinuz-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1342372 Jun 29 18:15 vmlinuz-2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1240137 Jul 31 01:39 vmlinuz-2.4.21-15.0.4.EL -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1343256 Jul 31 01:31 vmlinuz-2.4.21-15.0.4.ELsmp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1243768 Aug 18 21:03 vmlinuz-2.4.21-20.EL -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1353783 Aug 18 20:56 vmlinuz-2.4.21-20.ELsmp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1236945 Oct 3 2003 vmlinuz-2.4.21-4.EL -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1339556 Oct 3 2003 vmlinuz-2.4.21-4.ELsmp [root at xray1 boot]# more /etc/grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sda6 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS (2.4.21-15.0.3.EL) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL ro root=LABEL=/ hdb=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.img title Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS (2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp ro root=LABEL=/ hdb=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp.img title Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS (2.4.21-4.ELsmp) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-4.ELsmp ro root=LABEL=/ hdb=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.21-4.ELsmp.img title Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS-up (2.4.21-4.EL) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-4.EL ro root=LABEL=/ hdb=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.21-4.EL.img From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Sep 3 20:35:11 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:35:11 -0700 Subject: SEMI FINAL UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AF@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Waldher, Travis R > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:37 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: RE: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:59 AM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches > > > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>From: Waldher, Travis R > > >>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:00 AM > > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > >>Subject: YP Headaches > > >>Importance: High > > >> > > >> > > >>When I try to change my NIS password: > > >> > > >>[trw3016 at rpdsppc3 trw3016]$ yppasswd -p > > >>yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("~hostname~"). > > >> > > >>On the NIS Server there is this: > > >> > > >> program vers proto port > > >> 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper > > >> 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper > > >> 100024 1 udp 32768 status > > >> 100024 1 tcp 32768 status > > >> 100004 2 udp 797 ypserv > > >> 100004 1 udp 797 ypserv > > >> 100004 2 tcp 800 ypserv > > >> 100004 1 tcp 800 ypserv > > >> 600100069 1 udp 806 fypxfrd > > >> 600100069 1 tcp 808 fypxfrd > > >> 100021 1 udp 32795 nlockmgr > > >> 100021 3 udp 32795 nlockmgr > > >> 100021 4 udp 32795 nlockmgr > > >> 100021 1 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > > >> 100021 3 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > > >> 100021 4 tcp 32903 nlockmgr > > >> 100011 1 udp 951 rquotad > > >> 100011 2 udp 951 rquotad > > >> 100011 1 tcp 970 rquotad > > >> 100011 2 tcp 970 rquotad > > >> 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs > > >> 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs > > >> 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs > > >> 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs > > >> 100005 1 udp 973 mountd > > >> 100005 1 tcp 989 mountd > > >> 100005 2 udp 973 mountd > > >> 100005 2 tcp 989 mountd > > >> 100005 3 udp 973 mountd > > >> 100005 3 tcp 989 mountd > > >> 100007 2 udp 866 ypbind > > >> 100007 1 udp 866 ypbind > > >> 100007 2 tcp 869 ypbind > > >> 100007 1 tcp 869 ypbind > > >> 100009 1 udp 935 yppasswdd > > >> 391002 2 tcp 32990 sgi_fam > > >> > > >>And: > > >> > > >>[root at rpdssvr yp]# ps -ef |grep yppass > > >>root 3726 1 0 08:46 ? 00:00:00 rpc.yppasswdd > > >>root 4506 3421 0 08:59 pts/1 00:00:00 grep yppass > > > > > > > > > Ok let's add to the weirdness. My NIS Master has two NIC's. > > > > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:8F:A9:30 > > > inet addr:136.203.75.118 Bcast:136.203.75.255 > > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F5:6C:FF > > > inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 > > > Mask:255.255.255.0 > > > > > > On my 192 client (referencing subnet #) I get this error running > > > yppasswd: > > > > > > [username at 192client username]$ yppasswd > > > yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host > > > ("rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com"). > > > > > > If I attempt to telnet to the port indicated in the > earlier message: > > > > > > On my 136 client, yppasswd works. > > > > > > [username at 136client username]$ yppasswd Changing NIS account > > > information for trw3016 on rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com. > > > Please enter old password: > > > Sorry. > > > > > > Any ideas? I'm REALLY confused now. > > > > Have you checked your firewall configuration on the master > server? It > > looks like you have some things blocked there. > > Just checked: > > [root at rpdssvr etc]# service iptables status Firewall is stopped. Talked to redhat support for a while. Long story short the problem is in the yppasswd deamon and you WILL experience this problem if you intend for your users to use yppaswd from a client that is connected to a NIS server that has multiple network interfaces connected to physically isolated networks. Only eth0 - or, the ip that is tied to the NIC that is tied to the hostname will work. All others will fail as they access their own interface the first time properly, but then try to access eth0 to do the work. Which it can't do. A snippet of the strace: (this is only an example, I changed the IP's for security reasons. Eth0 = 169.254.0.18 (hostname=ypserver) Eth1 = 192.168.0.200 (hostname=ypserver-2) sendto(4, "\v\206x\214\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\1\206\244\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\3"..., 96, 0, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(764), sin_addr=inet_addr("192.168.0.200")}, 16) = 96 poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, 5000) = 1 recvfrom(4, "\v\206x\214\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 8800, 0, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(764), sin_addr=inet_addr("192.168.0.200")}, [16]) = 80 close(4) = 0 socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 3 bind(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(945), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = 0 ioctl(3, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0 setsockopt(3, SOL_IP, IP_RECVERR, [1], 4) = 0 sendto(3, "v#\266z\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\1\206\240\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\3\0\0"..., 56, 0, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(111), sin_addr=inet_addr("169.254.0.18")}, 16) = 56 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLERR}], 1, 5000) = 1 recvmsg(3, {msg_name(16)={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(111), sin_addr=inet_addr("169.254.0.18")}, msg_iov(1)=[{"v#\266z\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\1\206\240\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\3\0\0".. ., 56}], msg_controllen=44, msg_control=0x7fffaf00, , msg_flags=MSG_ERRQUEUE}, MSG_ERRQUEUE) = 56 close(3) = 0 write(2, "yppasswd: yppasswdd not running "..., 78yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("ypserver" From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 3 21:21:48 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:21:48 -0700 Subject: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AE@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9AE@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4138E06C.4070901@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:59 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> >>> >>>>From: Waldher, Travis R >>>>Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:00 AM >>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>Subject: YP Headaches >>>>Importance: High >>>> >>>> >>>>When I try to change my NIS password: >>>> >>>>[trw3016 at rpdsppc3 trw3016]$ yppasswd -p >>>>yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("~hostname~"). >>>> >>>>On the NIS Server there is this: >>>> >>>> program vers proto port >>>> 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper >>>> 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper >>>> 100024 1 udp 32768 status >>>> 100024 1 tcp 32768 status >>>> 100004 2 udp 797 ypserv >>>> 100004 1 udp 797 ypserv >>>> 100004 2 tcp 800 ypserv >>>> 100004 1 tcp 800 ypserv >>>>600100069 1 udp 806 fypxfrd >>>>600100069 1 tcp 808 fypxfrd >>>> 100021 1 udp 32795 nlockmgr >>>> 100021 3 udp 32795 nlockmgr >>>> 100021 4 udp 32795 nlockmgr >>>> 100021 1 tcp 32903 nlockmgr >>>> 100021 3 tcp 32903 nlockmgr >>>> 100021 4 tcp 32903 nlockmgr >>>> 100011 1 udp 951 rquotad >>>> 100011 2 udp 951 rquotad >>>> 100011 1 tcp 970 rquotad >>>> 100011 2 tcp 970 rquotad >>>> 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs >>>> 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs >>>> 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs >>>> 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs >>>> 100005 1 udp 973 mountd >>>> 100005 1 tcp 989 mountd >>>> 100005 2 udp 973 mountd >>>> 100005 2 tcp 989 mountd >>>> 100005 3 udp 973 mountd >>>> 100005 3 tcp 989 mountd >>>> 100007 2 udp 866 ypbind >>>> 100007 1 udp 866 ypbind >>>> 100007 2 tcp 869 ypbind >>>> 100007 1 tcp 869 ypbind >>>> 100009 1 udp 935 yppasswdd >>>> 391002 2 tcp 32990 sgi_fam >>>> >>>>And: >>>> >>>>[root at rpdssvr yp]# ps -ef |grep yppass >>>>root 3726 1 0 08:46 ? 00:00:00 rpc.yppasswdd >>>>root 4506 3421 0 08:59 pts/1 00:00:00 grep yppass >>> >>> >>>Ok let's add to the weirdness. My NIS Master has two NIC's. >>> >>>eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:8B:8F:A9:30 >>> inet addr:136.203.75.118 Bcast:136.203.75.255 >>>Mask:255.255.255.0 >>>eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:76:F5:6C:FF >>> inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:192.168.0.255 >>>Mask:255.255.255.0 >>> >>>On my 192 client (referencing subnet #) I get this error running >>>yppasswd: >>> >>>[username at 192client username]$ yppasswd >>>yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host >>>("rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com"). >>> >>>If I attempt to telnet to the port indicated in the earlier message: >>> >>>On my 136 client, yppasswd works. >>> >>>[username at 136client username]$ yppasswd Changing NIS account >>>information for trw3016 on rpdssvr.ca.boeing.com. >>>Please enter old password: >>>Sorry. >>> >>>Any ideas? I'm REALLY confused now. >> >>Have you checked your firewall configuration on the master >>server? It looks like you have some things blocked there. > > > Just checked: > > [root at rpdssvr etc]# service iptables status > Firewall is stopped. Hmmmm. It sure looks like yppasswd on the server is only listening to one interface...that's why I suspected the firewall. Have you tried "rpcinfo -p name-of-yp-server" on clients on both networks to see if something is odd with portmapper? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "I understand Windows 2000 has a Y2K problem." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 3 21:25:23 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:25:23 -0700 Subject: up2date problems with new kernel In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903131042.02679958@pop.gmx.net> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903131042.02679958@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: <4138E143.8040906@vitalstream.com> Benjamin Hornberger wrote: > Hi all, > > I am having the following problem on RHEL AS3: When running up2date, > there was an error message saying something about the module ieee1394 > not being available for the new kernel (I don't know how to retrieve the > exact error message). Now it looks like the new kernel won't be used, > even though the kernel as well as the kernel-smp-unsupported package > were updated by up2date (I need the kernel-smp-unsupported package for > firewire support). > > Even though I have eight kernels available, there are only four entries > in /etc/grub.conf (see below). It looks like the last kernel update (one > before today's) wasn't reflected there either. Also, grub by default > boots the non-smp kernel. The "default=1" entry in /etc/grub.conf which > I inserted manually recently now disappeared (after today's up2date, I > guess). Without a "default=" entry, grub will boot the first OS it sees in its file. > Why doesn't up2date enter the new kernels into grub.conf? If I enter > them manually, is there anything important I have to consider? What will > happen after the next up2date (in case a new kernel is available again?)? It should insert it. up2date will NOT make it the default kernel because the system may not boot the new kernel. up2date's philosophy is to install the kernel and let the user test it manually. If it's OK, then the user must make it the default manually. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From bho at gmx.net Fri Sep 3 21:34:35 2004 From: bho at gmx.net (Benjamin Hornberger) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:34:35 -0400 Subject: up2date problems with new kernel In-Reply-To: <4138E143.8040906@vitalstream.com> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903131042.02679958@pop.gmx.net> <4138E143.8040906@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903172733.02667c28@pop.gmx.net> At 02:25 PM 9/3/2004 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >Benjamin Hornberger wrote: >>Hi all, >>I am having the following problem on RHEL AS3: When running up2date, >>there was an error message saying something about the module ieee1394 not >>being available for the new kernel (I don't know how to retrieve the >>exact error message). Now it looks like the new kernel won't be used, >>even though the kernel as well as the kernel-smp-unsupported package were >>updated by up2date (I need the kernel-smp-unsupported package for >>firewire support). >>Even though I have eight kernels available, there are only four entries >>in /etc/grub.conf (see below). It looks like the last kernel update (one >>before today's) wasn't reflected there either. Also, grub by default >>boots the non-smp kernel. The "default=1" entry in /etc/grub.conf which I >>inserted manually recently now disappeared (after today's up2date, I guess). > >Without a "default=" entry, grub will boot the first OS it sees in its >file. Yes, that's why I put the default line in there. But up2date just removed it. Anyway, why wasn't the default on the smp kernel in the first place??? >>Why doesn't up2date enter the new kernels into grub.conf? If I enter them >>manually, is there anything important I have to consider? What will >>happen after the next up2date (in case a new kernel is available again?)? > >It should insert it. up2date will NOT make it the default kernel >because the system may not boot the new kernel. up2date's philosophy is >to install the kernel and let the user test it manually. If it's OK, >then the user must make it the default manually. But on a different machine, also 2-processor with RHEL AS3, it worked that way. up2date gets the new kernels (non-smp and smp), inserts them into grub.conf and leaves the default=1. And since the two entries are added at the top, default=1 now points to the NEW smp-kernel. >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >- - >- Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 3 21:42:39 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:42:39 -0700 Subject: up2date problems with new kernel In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903172733.02667c28@pop.gmx.net> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903131042.02679958@pop.gmx.net> <4138E143.8040906@vitalstream.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20040903172733.02667c28@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: <4138E54F.5070505@vitalstream.com> Benjamin Hornberger wrote: > At 02:25 PM 9/3/2004 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Benjamin Hornberger wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I am having the following problem on RHEL AS3: When running up2date, >>> there was an error message saying something about the module ieee1394 >>> not being available for the new kernel (I don't know how to retrieve >>> the exact error message). Now it looks like the new kernel won't be >>> used, even though the kernel as well as the kernel-smp-unsupported >>> package were updated by up2date (I need the kernel-smp-unsupported >>> package for firewire support). >>> Even though I have eight kernels available, there are only four >>> entries in /etc/grub.conf (see below). It looks like the last kernel >>> update (one before today's) wasn't reflected there either. Also, grub >>> by default boots the non-smp kernel. The "default=1" entry in >>> /etc/grub.conf which I inserted manually recently now disappeared >>> (after today's up2date, I guess). >> >> >> Without a "default=" entry, grub will boot the first OS it sees in its >> file. > > > Yes, that's why I put the default line in there. But up2date just > removed it. Anyway, why wasn't the default on the smp kernel in the > first place??? > > >>> Why doesn't up2date enter the new kernels into grub.conf? If I enter >>> them manually, is there anything important I have to consider? What >>> will happen after the next up2date (in case a new kernel is available >>> again?)? >> >> >> It should insert it. up2date will NOT make it the default kernel >> because the system may not boot the new kernel. up2date's philosophy is >> to install the kernel and let the user test it manually. If it's OK, >> then the user must make it the default manually. > > > But on a different machine, also 2-processor with RHEL AS3, it worked > that way. up2date gets the new kernels (non-smp and smp), inserts them > into grub.conf and leaves the default=1. And since the two entries are > added at the top, default=1 now points to the NEW smp-kernel. You need to look at the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date file and see what options are set. Odds are you have the kernel stuff ignored. You can tweak this with the "up2date --config" command. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fdgrant at powercom.net Fri Sep 3 21:45:53 2004 From: fdgrant at powercom.net (Fred Grant) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:45:53 -0500 Subject: .prx files Message-ID: <4138E611.2020806@powercom.net> I'm accumulating the above files in my home directory. Does anyone know what they are? .prx0Wbh8A .prx2MMzOz .prx6LcHVo .prxdQChbw .prxEn6jXa .prxIHKZrc .prxKheaLr .prxqnp9dY .prxU6DNY0 The above are some examples. They seem to be small binary files. Thanks From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 3 22:01:01 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 15:01:01 -0700 Subject: .prx files In-Reply-To: <4138E611.2020806@powercom.net> References: <4138E611.2020806@powercom.net> Message-ID: <4138E99D.9020509@vitalstream.com> Fred Grant wrote: > I'm accumulating the above files in my home directory. Does anyone know > what they are? > > .prx0Wbh8A .prx2MMzOz > .prx6LcHVo > .prxdQChbw .prxEn6jXa > .prxIHKZrc > .prxKheaLr > .prxqnp9dY .prxU6DNY0 > > The above are some examples. They seem to be small binary files. Not a clue. They look like they may be due to some GUI program you run periodically. Try "strings .oneofthefiles" and see if there are any printable strings in them that may give you (and us) a clue as to what program made them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - It is better to have loved and lost. Cheaper, too! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From bho at gmx.net Fri Sep 3 22:05:39 2004 From: bho at gmx.net (Benjamin Hornberger) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 18:05:39 -0400 Subject: up2date problems with new kernel In-Reply-To: <4138E54F.5070505@vitalstream.com> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903131042.02679958@pop.gmx.net> <4138E143.8040906@vitalstream.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20040903172733.02667c28@pop.gmx.net> <4138E54F.5070505@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903180022.026b66a0@pop.gmx.net> At 02:42 PM 9/3/2004 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >Benjamin Hornberger wrote: >>At 02:25 PM 9/3/2004 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>>Benjamin Hornberger wrote: >>> >>>>Hi all, >>>>I am having the following problem on RHEL AS3: When running up2date, >>>>there was an error message saying something about the module ieee1394 >>>>not being available for the new kernel (I don't know how to retrieve >>>>the exact error message). Now it looks like the new kernel won't be >>>>used, even though the kernel as well as the kernel-smp-unsupported >>>>package were updated by up2date (I need the kernel-smp-unsupported >>>>package for firewire support). >>>>Even though I have eight kernels available, there are only four entries >>>>in /etc/grub.conf (see below). It looks like the last kernel update >>>>(one before today's) wasn't reflected there either. Also, grub by >>>>default boots the non-smp kernel. The "default=1" entry in >>>>/etc/grub.conf which I inserted manually recently now disappeared >>>>(after today's up2date, I guess). >>> >>> >>>Without a "default=" entry, grub will boot the first OS it sees in its >>>file. >> >>Yes, that's why I put the default line in there. But up2date just removed >>it. Anyway, why wasn't the default on the smp kernel in the first place??? >> >>>>Why doesn't up2date enter the new kernels into grub.conf? If I enter >>>>them manually, is there anything important I have to consider? What >>>>will happen after the next up2date (in case a new kernel is available again?)? >>> >>> >>>It should insert it. up2date will NOT make it the default kernel >>>because the system may not boot the new kernel. up2date's philosophy is >>>to install the kernel and let the user test it manually. If it's OK, >>>then the user must make it the default manually. >> >>But on a different machine, also 2-processor with RHEL AS3, it worked >>that way. up2date gets the new kernels (non-smp and smp), inserts them >>into grub.conf and leaves the default=1. And since the two entries are >>added at the top, default=1 now points to the NEW smp-kernel. > >You need to look at the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date file and see what >options are set. Odds are you have the kernel stuff ignored. You can >tweak this with the "up2date --config" command. I was now going to manually enter the new kernel in /etc/grub.conf, when I realized that the new kernel files (vmlinuz) are there (in /boot), but the initrd files are missing. What can I do? Thanks ... From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Fri Sep 3 22:39:48 2004 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:39:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: disk space Message-ID: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> What, may I ask, is a sane method of moving rh v8.0 from an 8gb disk to say, a 30gb disk? Ghost? Mount and copy? Karl From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 3 23:59:05 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 16:59:05 -0700 Subject: up2date problems with new kernel In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903180022.026b66a0@pop.gmx.net> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040903131042.02679958@pop.gmx.net> <4138E143.8040906@vitalstream.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20040903172733.02667c28@pop.gmx.net> <4138E54F.5070505@vitalstream.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20040903180022.026b66a0@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: <41390549.6070505@vitalstream.com> Benjamin Hornberger wrote: > At 02:42 PM 9/3/2004 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Benjamin Hornberger wrote: >> >>> At 02:25 PM 9/3/2004 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>>> Benjamin Hornberger wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I am having the following problem on RHEL AS3: When running >>>>> up2date, there was an error message saying something about the >>>>> module ieee1394 not being available for the new kernel (I don't >>>>> know how to retrieve the exact error message). Now it looks like >>>>> the new kernel won't be used, even though the kernel as well as the >>>>> kernel-smp-unsupported package were updated by up2date (I need the >>>>> kernel-smp-unsupported package for firewire support). >>>>> Even though I have eight kernels available, there are only four >>>>> entries in /etc/grub.conf (see below). It looks like the last >>>>> kernel update (one before today's) wasn't reflected there either. >>>>> Also, grub by default boots the non-smp kernel. The "default=1" >>>>> entry in /etc/grub.conf which I inserted manually recently now >>>>> disappeared (after today's up2date, I guess). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Without a "default=" entry, grub will boot the first OS it sees in its >>>> file. >>> >>> >>> Yes, that's why I put the default line in there. But up2date just >>> removed it. Anyway, why wasn't the default on the smp kernel in the >>> first place??? >>> >>>>> Why doesn't up2date enter the new kernels into grub.conf? If I >>>>> enter them manually, is there anything important I have to >>>>> consider? What will happen after the next up2date (in case a new >>>>> kernel is available again?)? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It should insert it. up2date will NOT make it the default kernel >>>> because the system may not boot the new kernel. up2date's >>>> philosophy is >>>> to install the kernel and let the user test it manually. If it's OK, >>>> then the user must make it the default manually. >>> >>> >>> But on a different machine, also 2-processor with RHEL AS3, it worked >>> that way. up2date gets the new kernels (non-smp and smp), inserts >>> them into grub.conf and leaves the default=1. And since the two >>> entries are added at the top, default=1 now points to the NEW >>> smp-kernel. >> >> >> You need to look at the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date file and see what >> options are set. Odds are you have the kernel stuff ignored. You can >> tweak this with the "up2date --config" command. > > > > I was now going to manually enter the new kernel in /etc/grub.conf, when > I realized that the new kernel files (vmlinuz) are there (in /boot), but > the initrd files are missing. What can I do? To build an initrd for kernel 2.4.21-4.0.1.ELsmp: # cd /boot # mkinitrd -fv initrd-2.4.21-4.0.1.ELsmp.img 2.4.21-4.0.1.ELsmp ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Give me ambiguity or give me something else! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Sep 4 00:04:27 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:04:27 -0700 Subject: disk space In-Reply-To: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> References: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> Message-ID: <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > What, may I ask, is a sane method of moving rh v8.0 from an 8gb disk to > say, a 30gb disk? Ghost? Mount and copy? Partition the new drive, then mount each filesystem and "cp -a" or use ghost. Either will work. NOTE: Regardless of how you do it, you will need to install either grub or lilo on the new drive for it to boot. If you use lilo: # chroot /newdrive/boot # lilo # exit If you use grub: # grub-install /dev/whatever-the-new-drive-is ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Give me ambiguity or give me something else! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sat Sep 4 02:22:41 2004 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 20:22:41 -0600 (MDT) Subject: disk space In-Reply-To: <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> References: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <12374.198.60.114.90.1094264561.squirrel@198.60.114.90> > karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> What, may I ask, is a sane method of moving rh v8.0 from an 8gb disk to >> say, a 30gb disk? Ghost? Mount and copy? > > Partition the new drive, then mount each filesystem and "cp -a" or use > ghost. Either will work. > > NOTE: Regardless of how you do it, you will need to install either grub > or lilo on the new drive for it to boot. I have no particular preference between the two. I use both currently on different systems. Do you have a preference and if so, why? > If you use lilo: > > # chroot /newdrive/boot > # lilo > # exit > > If you use grub: > > # grub-install /dev/whatever-the-new-drive-is This way, I could keep both drives in the machine so thanks. Do I need to change their jumpers so one is a master and the other a slave for them to behave correctly? Oh, and this is a production system (email; web; ssh server). Does that change or modify your recommendations? (and thanks Rick; always good for sound advice.) Karl > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Give me ambiguity or give me something else! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From dabwang at rogers.com Sat Sep 4 02:44:58 2004 From: dabwang at rogers.com (Dabin Wang) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 22:44:58 -0400 Subject: format disk drive Message-ID: <41392C2A.80806@rogers.com> I first installed Windows98, and then Redhat Linux 7. Now it is different for me delete the partition for linux and recover the space to FAT32. When I use Linux CD to boot at rescue mode, I can not have any option for partition of disk. When I login as su (root), I can not find fdisk. Now I want reformat the entire drive (and reinstal window XP). Any one know how to do it? Thanks Dave From res73gzq at verizon.net Sat Sep 4 05:07:50 2004 From: res73gzq at verizon.net (John Killam) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:07:50 -1000 Subject: format disk drive References: <41392C2A.80806@rogers.com> Message-ID: <00af01c4923d$212cc8e0$1200a8c0@presario> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dabin Wang" To: Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: format disk drive > I first installed Windows98, and then Redhat Linux 7. > > Now it is different for me delete the partition for linux and recover > the space to FAT32. > When I use Linux CD to boot at rescue mode, I can not have any option > for partition of disk. > > When I login as su (root), I can not find fdisk. > > Now I want reformat the entire drive (and reinstal window XP). Any one > know how to do it? > > Thanks > > Dave You should be able to partiton the disk in the Windows XP install procedure. If that doesnt work, write back. I can tell you how to use the FDISK under Linux. jk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From mlftsamd at yahoo.com Sat Sep 4 05:09:27 2004 From: mlftsamd at yahoo.com (Sam Duvall) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Will not fully boot Message-ID: <20040904050927.92563.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> I have Red Hat 8 and the power went off. Now it will not boot past this; Bringing up interface ppp0: how can I force it past this? I am a real novice at this. Thank You __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From jkinz at kinz.org Sat Sep 4 17:29:58 2004 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:29:58 -0400 Subject: Will not fully boot In-Reply-To: <20040904050927.92563.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com>; from mlftsamd@yahoo.com on Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:09:27PM -0700 References: <20040904050927.92563.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040904132958.A11430@redline.comcast.net> On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Sam Duvall wrote: > I have Red Hat 8 and the power went off. Now it will > not boot past this; > > Bringing up interface ppp0: > > how can I force it past this? ppp0 - is usually a dial-up modem connection. (Can also be DSL - sometimes) If it can't bring up the connection, and that connection is required for one of the boot time services, like "sendmail", then your boot can take a long time. Does it really stop booting completely or, if you wait 10-15 minutes does it then continue? (P.S. is the modem still plugged into the phone line? ) -- Linux/Open Source. Now all your base belongs to you, for free. ============================================================ Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Sat Sep 4 17:54:10 2004 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:54:10 -0500 Subject: Will not fully boot In-Reply-To: <20040904132958.A11430@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <002801c492a8$31b234a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kinz > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 12:30 PM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Will not fully boot > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Sam Duvall wrote: > > I have Red Hat 8 and the power went off. Now it will > > not boot past this; > > > > Bringing up interface ppp0: > > > > how can I force it past this? > temporarily remove your modem and see if it will boot, sometimes modems get blown with a power failure. If it does then replace the modem. From dabwang at rogers.com Sat Sep 4 18:27:06 2004 From: dabwang at rogers.com (Dabin Wang) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:27:06 -0400 Subject: format disk drive In-Reply-To: <00af01c4923d$212cc8e0$1200a8c0@presario> References: <41392C2A.80806@rogers.com> <00af01c4923d$212cc8e0$1200a8c0@presario> Message-ID: <413A08FA.7040703@rogers.com> Thanks. I have used XP CD to format the Linux partition and auto instal XP (local logical primary). The original Win98 partition is cleaned up (local physical primary). Can I merge these two partitions? DW John Killam wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dabin Wang" >To: >Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 4:44 PM >Subject: format disk drive > > > > >>I first installed Windows98, and then Redhat Linux 7. >> >>Now it is different for me delete the partition for linux and recover >>the space to FAT32. >>When I use Linux CD to boot at rescue mode, I can not have any option >>for partition of disk. >> >>When I login as su (root), I can not find fdisk. >> >>Now I want reformat the entire drive (and reinstal window XP). Any one >>know how to do it? >> >>Thanks >> >>Dave >> >> > >You should be able to partiton the disk in the Windows XP install procedure. > >If that doesnt work, write back. I can tell you how to use the FDISK under >Linux. > >jk > > > > > > > >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From TekknoDraykko at aol.com Sat Sep 4 19:37:38 2004 From: TekknoDraykko at aol.com (TekknoDraykko at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:37:38 EDT Subject: Installing Fedora? Message-ID: <146.32c1b7b5.2e6b7382@aol.com> I downloaded and burned the Fedora Core, from Red Hat, to 4 CD's, but apparently I didn't do it right, because the computer I'm using (a laptop) doesn't boot off the disk. Can someone tell me where I can get more comprehensive instructions on downloading and installing Fedora? Thanks. Dre--- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tpotter at techmarin.com Sat Sep 4 19:50:20 2004 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 12:50:20 -0700 Subject: Installing Fedora? In-Reply-To: <146.32c1b7b5.2e6b7382@aol.com> References: <146.32c1b7b5.2e6b7382@aol.com> Message-ID: <1094327420.3300.8.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> I second that. I thought I had it down since I was able to create a knoppix bootable cd without a thought. Tried the same thing (I think I just used k3b) and no go. I am able to mount the fc iso image off my hard drive and all looks well from there. any straight forward how to for this lazy typist ? :-) Thanks On Sat, 2004-09-04 at 12:37, TekknoDraykko at aol.com wrote: > I downloaded and burned the Fedora Core, from Red Hat, to 4 CD's, but > apparently I didn't do it right, because the computer I'm using (a > laptop) doesn't boot off the disk. Can someone tell me where I can get > more comprehensive instructions on downloading and installing Fedora? > > Thanks. > > Dre--- > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com yahoo: potterbigdog From dpdonaldson at mac.com Sat Sep 4 21:07:15 2004 From: dpdonaldson at mac.com (Douglas Donaldson) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:07:15 -0700 Subject: Booting via CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <146.32c1b7b5.2e6b7382@aol.com> References: <146.32c1b7b5.2e6b7382@aol.com> Message-ID: <7483306.1094332035424.JavaMail.dpdonaldson@mac.com> Howdy, There are several options. Option 1 is to access BIOS. To access BIOS restart the laptop and hold down either the F1, F10, or the DEL key. Your system will go into the BIOS area and you select boot from device: 1st - CD-ROM 2nd - Floppy (if you have one) 3rd - Hard Drive If this doesn't work, create a boot floppy. Redhat should have asked you to create a boot floppy when it installed the system. On Saturday, September 04, 2004, at 12:37PM, wrote: > ><>_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sat Sep 4 20:50:20 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:50:20 -0500 Subject: Installing Fedora? In-Reply-To: <146.32c1b7b5.2e6b7382@aol.com> References: <146.32c1b7b5.2e6b7382@aol.com> Message-ID: <20040904205020.GA2555@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 03:37:38PM -0400, TekknoDraykko at aol.com wrote: > I downloaded and burned the Fedora Core, from Red Hat, to 4 CD's, but > apparently I didn't do it right, because the computer I'm using (a laptop) doesn't > boot off the disk. Can someone tell me where I can get more comprehensive > instructions on downloading and installing Fedora? > > Thanks. > > Dre--- http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From roland at cat.be Sun Sep 5 21:15:19 2004 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:15:19 +0200 Subject: ssh Message-ID: <001701c4938d$739b35c0$2664a8c0@ltsp> I have installed RedHat 9 on a siemens server. I have no problem to login with my portable in ssh-mode with the Terminal Emulator Anita. On another portable ssh does not work, telnet does, also using Anita Both portables have Windows XP installed Is there anybody, who can tell me where to look? Thanks Roland Brouwers C.A.T. Zevenbergenlaan 16 B-2660 Antwerpen Mob: +32 (0)475 443 105 roland at cat.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From roland at cat.be Mon Sep 6 07:43:08 2004 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:43:08 +0200 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <413B8B96.10201@gmx.li> Message-ID: <000001c493e5$27783640$920af751@ltsp> -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Hans M?ller Sent: zondag 5 september 2004 22:57 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: ssh roland brouwers schrieb: > I have installed RedHat 9 on a siemens server. > I have no problem to login with my portable in ssh-mode with the > Terminal Emulator Anita. On another portable ssh does not work, telnet > does, also using Anita Both portables have Windows XP installed > Is there anybody, who can tell me where to look? > > Thanks > > > Roland Brouwers > > > > C.A.T. > Zevenbergenlaan 16 > B-2660 Antwerpen > Mob: +32 (0)475 443 105 > roland at cat.be > have you installed a firewall on xp? have you denny some hosts in your ssh.conf file? There is no firewall that I know off. I never touched the ssh.conf file. It feels like problems with XP. This portable does not receive any IP-address by DHCP in wireless mode. It gets an address starting with 160..... Sometimes I have the same problem with my portable. Maybe this ssh-problem and DHCP is belonging to the same problem environment. This portable can login with telnet not with ssh I can login with ssh over the internet and locally. ????? _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From mlftsamd at yahoo.com Mon Sep 6 22:10:21 2004 From: mlftsamd at yahoo.com (Sam Duvall) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 15:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <20040905160027.1607E73A66@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20040906221021.17682.qmail@web11006.mail.yahoo.com> > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Will not fully boot (Jeff Kinz) > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:29:58 -0400 > From: Jeff Kinz > Subject: Re: Will not fully boot > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <20040904132958.A11430 at redline.comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Sam Duvall > wrote: > > I have Red Hat 8 and the power went off. Now it > will > > not boot past this; > > > > Bringing up interface ppp0: > > > > how can I force it past this? > > ppp0 - is usually a dial-up modem connection. > (Can also be DSL - sometimes) > > If it can't bring up the connection, and that > connection is required > for one of the boot time services, like "sendmail", > then your boot > can take a long time. > > Does it really stop booting completely or, if you > wait 10-15 minutes > does it then continue? > > (P.S. is the modem still plugged into the phone > line? ) > The modem is still plugged in but when it went dead from power loss I was setting up my dialup and hadn't finnished with it. Also when setting up the dialup it couldn't find the modem. I done a new hardware search but couldn't find it. Also when I try to boot to DOS it gives me this; booting 'DOS' rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader +1 _ ^--"above is supposed to be a cursour" If I could find out how to run fdisk in linux I would start all over because I have nothing to lose in it now. Thank you in advance Sam Duvall P.S. Is this the right way to reply? _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Sep 6 22:40:12 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 17:40:12 -0500 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <20040906221021.17682.qmail@web11006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040905160027.1607E73A66@hormel.redhat.com> <20040906221021.17682.qmail@web11006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040906224012.GA15011@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 03:10:21PM -0700, Sam Duvall wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Will not fully boot (Jeff Kinz) > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:29:58 -0400 > > From: Jeff Kinz > > Subject: Re: Will not fully boot > > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: > > <20040904132958.A11430 at redline.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Sam Duvall > > wrote: > > > I have Red Hat 8 and the power went off. Now it > > will > > > not boot past this; > > > > > > Bringing up interface ppp0: > > > > > > how can I force it past this? > > > > ppp0 - is usually a dial-up modem connection. > > (Can also be DSL - sometimes) > > > > If it can't bring up the connection, and that > > connection is required > > for one of the boot time services, like "sendmail", > > then your boot > > can take a long time. > > > > Does it really stop booting completely or, if you > > wait 10-15 minutes > > does it then continue? > > > > (P.S. is the modem still plugged into the phone > > line? ) > > > The modem is still plugged in but when it went dead > from power loss I was setting up my dialup and hadn't > finnished with it. > > Also when setting up the dialup it couldn't find the > modem. I done a new hardware search but couldn't find > it. > > Also when I try to boot to DOS it gives me this; > > booting 'DOS' > rootnoverify (hd1,0) > chainloader +1 > _ > > ^--"above is supposed to be a cursour" > > If I could find out how to run fdisk in linux I would > start all over because I have nothing to lose in it > now. You don't need to use fdisk. Just boot with your CD #1 and redo the install. > Thank you in advance > > Sam Duvall > > > P.S. Is this the right way to reply? Yes. Bottom posting is the preferred method. However, when replying to a digest, you should edit out all the extraneous messages (not applicable as there was only one, this time), and change the subject to something relevant. For more info, see http://www.rhil.net/docs/rhil-guide.html Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From fongc at smccd.net Tue Sep 7 17:05:12 2004 From: fongc at smccd.net (Fong, Cory) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:05:12 -0700 Subject: nautilus web view Message-ID: <2FDD5A6AFEB6BA4889E920A88A26FFE1242C77@exchange2.smccd.net> I am bringing EnterpriseWS up for use in Linux training class; however, am having a problem with Nautilus Web view. With 7.2, I can enter "ghelp:toc" in the location field of a Nautilus window ... the Gnome help system TCO comes up fine. With EnterpiseWS (2.1update5), Nautilus says: View Failed: the web page view encountered an error while starting up. Of course, this error also occurs when using help in a wide variety of ways. Is there a configuration file that maps ghelp:toc to the location of the html files ... maybe this is missing? I saw some discussion about Mozilla 0.8.1 issues, but I have 0.9.2.1 on 7.2 and 1.4.3 on EntWS ... so Mozilla is part that 0.8.1 version. Appreciate help available, Corey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mknecht at controlnet.com Tue Sep 7 17:05:59 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:05:59 -0700 Subject: disk space In-Reply-To: <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> References: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <413DEA77.8040801@controlnet.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >> What, may I ask, is a sane method of moving rh v8.0 from an 8gb disk to >> say, a 30gb disk? Ghost? Mount and copy? > > > Partition the new drive, then mount each filesystem and "cp -a" or use > ghost. Either will work. > > NOTE: Regardless of how you do it, you will need to install either grub > or lilo on the new drive for it to boot. If you use lilo: > > # chroot /newdrive/boot > # lilo > # exit > > If you use grub: > > # grub-install /dev/whatever-the-new-drive-is > Rick, Hi. Long time. I've never done this sort of copy, but most of the threads I've read seemed to strongly suggest that you need to boot into some form of single user mode in order for this to be successful. Would you agree? It is my assumption that since Karl wants to copy 'rh v8.0' that he really is copying the system drive. Maybe I'm wrong about that? Anyway, I've wondered this sort of stuff myself. Thanks, Mark From ddelao at oucpm.org Tue Sep 7 20:45:56 2004 From: ddelao at oucpm.org (Darryl W. DeLao Jr.) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:45:56 -0500 Subject: Tar Question Message-ID: <00a301c4951b$aca9eed0$0632a8c0@Ebiz1> Is there a way to create a tar file and exclude a specific directory that is within the directory you want to tar? For example, I have a directory called /www/ and in that directory is another directory called /www/test/ and I want to tar up the /www/ directory but I do not want the tar to include the /www/test/ directory but I do want the tar to include all the other sub-directories within /www/ Thanks! Darryl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From minh.nguyen at ihe.com Tue Sep 7 20:51:36 2004 From: minh.nguyen at ihe.com (Nguyen, Minh) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:51:36 -0700 Subject: Tar Question Message-ID: <52286297586D914F8F3E18D487207631E569CF@IHE-EX02.ihe.com> Try: tar cvfzX ${TAR_FILE} ${EXCLUDE} . where EXCLUDE=/www/test -----Original Message----- From: Darryl W. DeLao Jr. [mailto:ddelao at oucpm.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:46 PM To: rhn-users at redhat.com; redhat-list at redhat.com; redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Tar Question Is there a way to create a tar file and exclude a specific directory that is within the directory you want to tar? For example, I have a directory called /www/ and in that directory is another directory called /www/test/ and I want to tar up the /www/ directory but I do not want the tar to include the /www/test/ directory but I do want the tar to include all the other sub-directories within /www/ Thanks! Darryl The information contained in this message and any attachments is confidential and proprietary and may be privileged and protected from disclosure. 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DeLao Jr. a ?crit : > Is there a way to create a tar file and exclude a specific directory > that is within the directory you want to tar? > Extract from man tar [...] -X, --exclude-from=FILE exclude files matching patterns listed in FILE [...] -- daniel From gerrynix at yahoo.com Tue Sep 7 21:00:41 2004 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Tar Question In-Reply-To: <52286297586D914F8F3E18D487207631E569CF@IHE-EX02.ihe.com> Message-ID: <20040907210041.10832.qmail@web51905.mail.yahoo.com> See bottom post as well... ;) Try: ??? tar cvfzX ${TAR_FILE} ${EXCLUDE} . where EXCLUDE=/www/test -----Original Message----- From: Darryl W. DeLao Jr. [mailto:ddelao at oucpm.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:46 PM To: rhn-users at redhat.com; redhat-list at redhat.com; redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Tar Question Is there a way to create a tar file and exclude a specific directory that is within the directory you want to tar? For example, I have a directory called /www/ and in that directory is another directory called? /www/test/? and I want to tar up the /www/ directory but? I do not want the tar to include the /www/test/ directory but I do want the tar to include all the other sub-directories within /www/ Thanks! Darryl In the "standard" version of tar, I use the X modifier... followed by an exclude_file (plain ol' ASCII) containing relative pathnames of what to exclude. Works with c - x - t. Check the man page for the GNU version. -- Nix From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Sep 7 21:01:09 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 16:01:09 -0500 Subject: Tar Question In-Reply-To: <52286297586D914F8F3E18D487207631E569CF@IHE-EX02.ihe.com> References: <52286297586D914F8F3E18D487207631E569CF@IHE-EX02.ihe.com> Message-ID: <20040907210109.GA23829@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Please don't top post. On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 01:51:36PM -0700, Nguyen, Minh wrote: > Try: > > tar cvfzX ${TAR_FILE} ${EXCLUDE} . > > where EXCLUDE=/www/test Umm, I don't think so. From "man tar": -X, --exclude-from FILE exclude files listed in FILE You'd do better to tar cvf ${TAR_FILE} `ls /www/*|fgrep -v /www/test` > -----Original Message----- > From: Darryl W. DeLao Jr. [mailto:ddelao at oucpm.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:46 PM > To: rhn-users at redhat.com; redhat-list at redhat.com; redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: Tar Question > > > > Is there a way to create a tar file and exclude a specific directory that is within the directory you want to tar? > > > > For example, I have a directory called /www/ and in that directory is another directory called /www/test/ and I want to tar up the /www/ directory but I do not want the tar to include the /www/test/ directory but I do want the tar to include all the other sub-directories within /www/ > > > > Thanks! > > Darryl Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From gerrynix at yahoo.com Tue Sep 7 21:09:02 2004 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Tar Question In-Reply-To: <20040907210109.GA23829@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: <20040907210902.14380.qmail@web51905.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bob McClure Jr wrote: > Please don't top post. > > On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 01:51:36PM -0700, Nguyen, Minh wrote: > > Try: > > > > tar cvfzX ${TAR_FILE} ${EXCLUDE} . > > > > where EXCLUDE=/www/test > > Umm, I don't think so. From "man tar": > > -X, --exclude-from FILE > exclude files listed in FILE > > You'd do better to > > tar cvf ${TAR_FILE} `ls /www/*|fgrep -v /www/test` Yep. Bob's suggestion is probably faster for a single object as you have. I use an exclude file with a long listing of files and reuse the exclude_file frequently. -- Nix > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Darryl W. DeLao Jr. [mailto:ddelao at oucpm.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 1:46 PM > > To: rhn-users at redhat.com; redhat-list at redhat.com; > redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > Subject: Tar Question > > > > > > > > Is there a way to create a tar file and exclude a specific > directory that is within the directory you want to tar? > > > > > > > > For example, I have a directory called /www/ and in that > directory is another directory called /www/test/ and I want to > tar up the /www/ directory but I do not want the tar to include > the /www/test/ directory but I do want the tar to include all the > other sub-directories within /www/ > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Darryl > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > Grace happens. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 7 22:43:51 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:43:51 -0700 Subject: disk space In-Reply-To: <12374.198.60.114.90.1094264561.squirrel@198.60.114.90> References: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> <12374.198.60.114.90.1094264561.squirrel@198.60.114.90> Message-ID: <413E39A7.3040200@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> >>>What, may I ask, is a sane method of moving rh v8.0 from an 8gb disk to >>>say, a 30gb disk? Ghost? Mount and copy? >> >>Partition the new drive, then mount each filesystem and "cp -a" or use >>ghost. Either will work. >> >>NOTE: Regardless of how you do it, you will need to install either grub >>or lilo on the new drive for it to boot. > > > I have no particular preference between the two. I use both currently on > different systems. Do you have a preference and if so, why? I prefer grub for several reasons: It's capable of dealing with more operating systems than lilo can, you don't have to remember to run it if you tweak the config file and it's a bit more flexible. >>If you use lilo: >> >> # chroot /newdrive/boot >> # lilo >> # exit >> >>If you use grub: >> >> # grub-install /dev/whatever-the-new-drive-is > > > This way, I could keep both drives in the machine so thanks. Do I need to > change their jumpers so one is a master and the other a slave for them to > behave correctly? Well, yes and no. If you use filesystem labels rather than device names in your /etc/fstabs or loader configs, you can have issues. I'd leave the drives jumpered however you wish but make sure that your boot loader doesn't use the "root=label=/" stuff, but rather uses "root=/dev/hdxn" format. Also make sure you modify each system's /etc/fstab to use the device names also. Nothing will confuse things more than having a "/usr" filesystem label on two drives then specifying "LABEL=/usr" in the /etc/fstab. Which "/usr" will you get? It's unpredictable. > Oh, and this is a production system (email; web; ssh server). Does that > change or modify your recommendations? (and thanks Rick; always good for > sound advice.) No, other than the device name versus filesystem label stuff either would work. As I said, I prefer grub, although it's not as easy to boot in single user mode with grub as it is with lilo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never eat anything larger than your head - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 7 22:48:28 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:48:28 -0700 Subject: Will not fully boot In-Reply-To: <002801c492a8$31b234a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> References: <002801c492a8$31b234a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <413E3ABC.9000100@vitalstream.com> Otto Haliburton wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- >>bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kinz >>Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 12:30 PM >>To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>Subject: Re: Will not fully boot >> >>On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:09:27PM -0700, Sam Duvall wrote: >> >>>I have Red Hat 8 and the power went off. Now it will >>>not boot past this; >>> >>>Bringing up interface ppp0: >>> >>>how can I force it past this? >> > temporarily remove your modem and see if it will boot, sometimes modems get > blown with a power failure. If it does then replace the modem. You can also bypass that by using the interactive boot mode. When the system first starts listing the services, hit "I" a bunch of times (capital "I"). This will start the interactive boot. For each service, the system will ask you if you want to start it. Answer "y" for each one EXCEPT for "network services". Answer "n" to that one. Once you're past that, you can answer "a" (all), and the rest will start up. The odds are that your modem got turned off or went blooey during the power failure. You can unplug it or remove it from the system to get past this also. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 7 22:51:19 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:51:19 -0700 Subject: ssh In-Reply-To: <000001c493e5$27783640$920af751@ltsp> References: <000001c493e5$27783640$920af751@ltsp> Message-ID: <413E3B67.7030807@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Hans M?ller > Sent: zondag 5 september 2004 22:57 > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: ssh > > > roland brouwers schrieb: > >>I have installed RedHat 9 on a siemens server. >>I have no problem to login with my portable in ssh-mode with the >>Terminal Emulator Anita. On another portable ssh does not work, telnet > > >>does, also using Anita Both portables have Windows XP installed >>Is there anybody, who can tell me where to look? >> >>Thanks >> >> >>Roland Brouwers >> >> >> >>C.A.T. >>Zevenbergenlaan 16 >>B-2660 Antwerpen >>Mob: +32 (0)475 443 105 >>roland at cat.be >> > > have you installed a firewall on xp? have you denny some hosts in your > ssh.conf file? > > There is no firewall that I know off. I never touched the ssh.conf file. > It feels like problems with XP. > This portable does not receive any IP-address by DHCP in wireless mode. > It gets an address starting with 160..... > Sometimes I have the same problem with my portable. > Maybe this ssh-problem and DHCP is belonging to the same problem > environment. > > This portable can login with telnet not with ssh > I can login with ssh over the internet and locally. ssh wants to do a DNS and reverse DNS lookup on your IP address. If you aren't getting an IP from your DHCP, ssh can't authenticate you. This can also be an issue if the DNS doesn't work properly. Telnet doesn't use DNS to authenticate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the - - reader...who doesn't get it. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 7 22:58:31 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:58:31 -0700 Subject: disk space In-Reply-To: <413DEA77.8040801@controlnet.com> References: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> <413DEA77.8040801@controlnet.com> Message-ID: <413E3D17.4000702@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> >>> What, may I ask, is a sane method of moving rh v8.0 from an 8gb disk to >>> say, a 30gb disk? Ghost? Mount and copy? >> >> >> >> Partition the new drive, then mount each filesystem and "cp -a" or use >> ghost. Either will work. >> >> NOTE: Regardless of how you do it, you will need to install either grub >> or lilo on the new drive for it to boot. If you use lilo: >> >> # chroot /newdrive/boot >> # lilo >> # exit >> >> If you use grub: >> >> # grub-install /dev/whatever-the-new-drive-is >> > > Rick, > Hi. Long time. Hi yourself! Where have you been? > > I've never done this sort of copy, but most of the threads I've read > seemed to strongly suggest that you need to boot into some form of > single user mode in order for this to be successful. Would you agree? Yes, you want the filesystems to be as quiescent as possible when doing the copy. Ideally, you don't even want them mounted, so single user mode (or rescue mode from the CD) is a good idea. > It is my assumption that since Karl wants to copy 'rh v8.0' that he > really is copying the system drive. Maybe I'm wrong about that? I don't think so. I think he's trying to create a hot swap type of thing in case something goes whacko and gronches the running system. He can then boot the other copy and recover that way. Sort of a quasi-hot swap. I do it all the time. > Anyway, I've wondered this sort of stuff myself. It's useful if you do experiments as I do. Of course, I also have a machine with removable drive bays and spare drives in carriers. It's not hot swap (certainly not with IDE), but it works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 7 23:04:33 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:04:33 -0700 Subject: nautilus web view In-Reply-To: <2FDD5A6AFEB6BA4889E920A88A26FFE1242C77@exchange2.smccd.net> References: <2FDD5A6AFEB6BA4889E920A88A26FFE1242C77@exchange2.smccd.net> Message-ID: <413E3E81.4000408@vitalstream.com> Fong, Cory wrote: > I am bringing EnterpriseWS up for use in Linux training class; however, > am having a problem with Nautilus Web view. > > With 7.2, I can enter "ghelp:toc" in the location field of a Nautilus > window ... > the Gnome help system TCO comes up fine. > > With EnterpiseWS (2.1update5), Nautilus says: View Failed: the web page > view encountered an error while starting up. Of course, this error also > occurs > when using help in a wide variety of ways. > > Is there a configuration file that maps ghelp:toc to the location of the > html files ... maybe this is missing? > > I saw some discussion about Mozilla 0.8.1 issues, but I have 0.9.2.1 on 7.2 > and 1.4.3 on EntWS ... so Mozilla is part that 0.8.1 version. Those are all configured in one of the Gnome XML config files, one of which is: /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/desktop/gnome/url-handlers These are part of the GConf2 RPM set. Make sure you've updated GConf2. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Do you suffer from long-term memory loss?" "I don't remember" - - -- Chumbawumba, "Amnesia" (TubThumping) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From aubreys_key at yahoo.com Wed Sep 8 02:58:45 2004 From: aubreys_key at yahoo.com (Aubrey Barnard) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DHCP client assigns an invalid hostname (RH9) -Solution! Message-ID: <20040908025845.44328.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> To whomever this may help: I feel obligated to send my solution as a thank you to those who helped me earlier. I'm sorry my reply was not sooner, but things get out of hand... Situation recap: My ISP was not assigning me a hostname via DHCP. Solution: After calling Charter and receiving contradictory answers, including people at district headquarters, someone eventually confirmed with certainty that they do not issue hostnames to residential cable internet clients, although they could not give me a good reason why. The next step was to write a script to 'manually' assign myself the proper hostname. The following is that script, such as it is: (I placed it in root's home, an arbitrary location.) /root/manually-set-hostname.sh: #!/bin/bash # Get the ip address ipAddress=$(ifconfig | egrep 'inet addr:.*Bcast:' | sed -r -e 's/.*inet addr:(\W*) .*/\1/') #echo "The IP address is '$ipAddress'." # Get the hostname from a DNS server dnsReply=$(host $ipAddress) # See if the reply from the DNS server found a hostname for this IP address if [[ $(expr "$dnsReply" : '.*not found') = 0 ]] then # Things are OK, as the IP address was found #echo "A hostname was found!" # Extract the hostname from the reply hostname=$(expr "$dnsReply" : '.*domain name pointer \(.*\)\.') #echo "Hostname is $hostname" # Set the hostname echo "Setting hostname '$hostname' for address '$ipAddress'" hostname $hostname else # host did not find the IP address -error echo "Could not manually set the hostname because the IP address was not found." fi The script will work on its own, but it would be much more convenient to be done automatically at boot. (Like, duh!) I don't know anything about how linux boots, but I dug around and placed a call to my script in /etc/init.d/network. I placed the call after the network interfaces were started, but before the CIPE VPN interfaces, like this: /etc/init.d/network: ... # bring up all other interfaces configured to come up at boot time for i in $interfaces; do ... action $"Bringing up interface $i: " ./ifup $i boot done # Manually set the hostname -for compatibility with Charter internet # Added by barnard, 08/15/04 /root/manually-set-hostname.sh # Bring up CIPE VPN interfaces for i in $cipeinterfaces ; do ... This may not be the best solution, and my bash script isn't pretty, but it worked, and thus I pass it along. Comments and feedback are welcome. I hope this can help somebody, maybe someday. I doubt too many Charter customers are Linux users, though. Happy Linux trails, y'all, Aubrey __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Sep 8 04:12:11 2004 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 22:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: disk space In-Reply-To: <413E39A7.3040200@vitalstream.com> References: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> <12374.198.60.114.90.1094264561.squirrel@198.60.114.90> <413E39A7.3040200@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <26407.198.60.114.90.1094616731.squirrel@198.60.114.90> > I prefer grub for several reasons: It's capable of dealing with more > operating systems than lilo can, you don't have to remember to run it if > you tweak the config file and it's a bit more flexible. > Stupid as it might be, I like grub because it looks nicer on boot... 8^} and nice to hear from you, Mark. > > Well, yes and no. If you use filesystem labels rather than device names > in your /etc/fstabs or loader configs, you can have issues. I'd leave > the drives jumpered however you wish but make sure that your boot loader > doesn't use the "root=label=/" stuff, but rather uses "root=/dev/hdxn" > format. Also make sure you modify each system's /etc/fstab to use the > device names also. Nothing will confuse things more than having a > "/usr" filesystem label on two drives then specifying "LABEL=/usr" in > the /etc/fstab. Which "/usr" will you get? It's unpredictable. This system is production, as I said, so keeping the drive in the machine is really a temporary thing. I don't use labels, but rather /dev/hdnnn names, so I'll do what you said, Rick. Also, I'm planning to moth-ball the 8gb drive anyway, and get another 30GB drive and then will have hot-swappable, albeit IDE 'warm-swappable' drives for crashes. I've run this server on two platforms, save disk, for 5 years without neglible down time. Usually my fault... Thanks, Karl From mknecht at controlnet.com Wed Sep 8 14:30:44 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 07:30:44 -0700 Subject: disk space In-Reply-To: <413E3D17.4000702@vitalstream.com> References: <58531.207.173.117.242.1094251188.squirrel@207.173.117.242> <4139068B.40506@vitalstream.com> <413DEA77.8040801@controlnet.com> <413E3D17.4000702@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <413F1794.2020602@controlnet.com> Rick Stevens wrote: >> Rick, >> Hi. Long time. > > > Hi yourself! Where have you been? Oh, I'm here but not much to say I guess. I still run RH9 on one machine but haven't the need to move it to Fedora. All of my newer machines are Gentoo now. Source code seems to build easier in that environment. Important for newbies like me. This list has gotten so quiet as folks have gone to Fedora. > >> >> I've never done this sort of copy, but most of the threads I've >> read seemed to strongly suggest that you need to boot into some form >> of single user mode in order for this to be successful. Would you agree? > > > Yes, you want the filesystems to be as quiescent as possible when doing > the copy. Ideally, you don't even want them mounted, so single user > mode (or rescue mode from the CD) is a good idea. Thanks for clarifying. Makes sense. > >> It is my assumption that since Karl wants to copy 'rh v8.0' that he >> really is copying the system drive. Maybe I'm wrong about that? > > > I don't think so. I think he's trying to create a hot swap type of > thing in case something goes whacko and gronches the running system. He > can then boot the other copy and recover that way. Sort of a quasi-hot > swap. I do it all the time. Humm...interesting. So I need to go by 4 new hard drives for my house now? These will become my 'just in case drives' I guess... ;-) Sound slike a good idea for companies with money. I just slap my audio work on a DVD and figure I'll deal with a system crash when (not if) it happens. > >> Anyway, I've wondered this sort of stuff myself. > > > It's useful if you do experiments as I do. Of course, I also have a > machine with removable drive bays and spare drives in carriers. It's > not hot swap (certainly not with IDE), but it works. Thanks for the info. Good to see you, Karl, Bob and others still hanging around. - Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 8 17:24:48 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 10:24:48 -0700 Subject: DHCP client assigns an invalid hostname (RH9) -Solution! In-Reply-To: <20040908025845.44328.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040908025845.44328.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <413F4060.6060305@vitalstream.com> Aubrey Barnard wrote: > To whomever this may help: > I feel obligated to send my solution as a thank you to those who > helped me earlier. I'm sorry my reply was not sooner, but things get out > of hand... > > Situation recap: > My ISP was not assigning me a hostname via DHCP. > > Solution: > After calling Charter and receiving contradictory answers, including > people at district headquarters, someone eventually confirmed with > certainty that they do not issue hostnames to residential cable internet > clients, although they could not give me a good reason why. > The next step was to write a script to 'manually' assign myself the > proper hostname. The following is that script, such as it is: (I placed it > in root's home, an arbitrary location.) > /root/manually-set-hostname.sh: > #!/bin/bash > > # Get the ip address > ipAddress=$(ifconfig | egrep 'inet addr:.*Bcast:' | sed -r -e 's/.*inet > addr:(\W*) .*/\1/') > #echo "The IP address is '$ipAddress'." > > # Get the hostname from a DNS server > dnsReply=$(host $ipAddress) > > # See if the reply from the DNS server found a hostname for this IP > address > if [[ $(expr "$dnsReply" : '.*not found') = 0 ]] > then > # Things are OK, as the IP address was found > #echo "A hostname was found!" > > # Extract the hostname from the reply > hostname=$(expr "$dnsReply" : '.*domain name pointer \(.*\)\.') > #echo "Hostname is $hostname" > > # Set the hostname > echo "Setting hostname '$hostname' for address '$ipAddress'" > hostname $hostname > else > # host did not find the IP address -error > echo "Could not manually set the hostname because the IP address was > not found." > fi > > The script will work on its own, but it would be much more convenient to > be done automatically at boot. (Like, duh!) I don't know anything about > how linux boots, but I dug around and placed a call to my script in > /etc/init.d/network. I placed the call after the network interfaces were > started, but before the CIPE VPN interfaces, like this: > /etc/init.d/network: > ... > # bring up all other interfaces configured to come up at boot time > for i in $interfaces; do > ... > action $"Bringing up interface $i: " ./ifup $i boot > done > > > # Manually set the hostname -for compatibility with Charter > internet > # Added by barnard, 08/15/04 > /root/manually-set-hostname.sh > > > # Bring up CIPE VPN interfaces > for i in $cipeinterfaces ; do > ... > > This may not be the best solution, and my bash script isn't pretty, but it > worked, and thus I pass it along. Comments and feedback are welcome. I > hope this can help somebody, maybe someday. I doubt too many Charter > customers are Linux users, though. > > Happy Linux trails, y'all, > Aubrey Good solution, Aubrey. Actually, most ISPs don't give out host names. When they do, it's often a fixed host name that has some permutation of the IP address in it, and that's so they can provide a fixed reverse DNS lookup. For example, Road Runner typically has something like: cpe-66-75-xxx-yyy.socal.rr.com. which indicates that the IP address was 66.75.xxx.yyy. They just have a bunch of these configured in their DNS. Some ISPs will even accept a hostname from the client, set it up and do a dynamic DNS update for reverse DNS lookups. Unfortunately, those are few and far between Under Linux, it's not generally a good idea to set the hostname to some DHCP-provided hostname. It will break a lot of the authentication stuff used in X, the printing system and ssh. You can configure the DHCP client to ignore the hostname provided. It's often better to simply ignore the provided hostname and stick with localhost or some other fixed host name. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Heisenberg _may_ have slept here - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Sep 8 20:16:26 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 13:16:26 -0700 Subject: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB04613E4F@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 2:22 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: UPDATE - More Info -- YP Headaches > > Hmmmm. It sure looks like yppasswd on the server is only > listening to one interface...that's why I suspected the firewall. > > Have you tried "rpcinfo -p name-of-yp-server" on clients on > both networks to see if something is odd with portmapper? I have a diagram and an etherreal trace of the bad computer here. I am simulating the environment I have between two YDL clients and my Redhat EL3.0 server. This same issue so far has been found on the HP/UX systems we have as well. So it's not just Linux. http://www.waldher.com/redhat/yppasswd_trouble/ Here's the output from b345549e (the broken yppasswd client): [root at b345549e root]# rpcinfo -p b345549z-2 program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100024 1 udp 32768 status 100024 1 tcp 32768 status 391002 2 tcp 32769 sgi_fam 100011 1 udp 763 rquotad 100011 2 udp 763 rquotad 100011 1 tcp 766 rquotad 100011 2 tcp 766 rquotad 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs 100021 1 udp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 3 udp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 4 udp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 1 tcp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 3 tcp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 4 tcp 32770 nlockmgr 100005 1 udp 781 mountd 100005 1 tcp 784 mountd 100005 2 udp 781 mountd 100005 2 tcp 784 mountd 100005 3 udp 781 mountd 100005 3 tcp 784 mountd 100004 2 udp 946 ypserv 100004 1 udp 946 ypserv 100004 2 tcp 949 ypserv 100004 1 tcp 949 ypserv 600100069 1 udp 957 fypxfrd 600100069 1 tcp 959 fypxfrd 100007 2 udp 870 ypbind 100007 1 udp 870 ypbind 100007 2 tcp 873 ypbind 100007 1 tcp 873 ypbind 100009 1 udp 977 yppasswdd And Here's the output from b345549f (the functioning one) [root at b345549f root]# rpcinfo -p b345549z program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100024 1 udp 32768 status 100024 1 tcp 32768 status 391002 2 tcp 32769 sgi_fam 100011 1 udp 763 rquotad 100011 2 udp 763 rquotad 100011 1 tcp 766 rquotad 100011 2 tcp 766 rquotad 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs 100021 1 udp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 3 udp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 4 udp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 1 tcp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 3 tcp 32770 nlockmgr 100021 4 tcp 32770 nlockmgr 100005 1 udp 781 mountd 100005 1 tcp 784 mountd 100005 2 udp 781 mountd 100005 2 tcp 784 mountd 100005 3 udp 781 mountd 100005 3 tcp 784 mountd 100004 2 udp 946 ypserv 100004 1 udp 946 ypserv 100004 2 tcp 949 ypserv 100004 1 tcp 949 ypserv 600100069 1 udp 957 fypxfrd 600100069 1 tcp 959 fypxfrd 100007 2 udp 870 ypbind 100007 1 udp 870 ypbind 100007 2 tcp 873 ypbind 100007 1 tcp 873 ypbind 100009 1 udp 977 yppasswdd From rpatton at advancedlegal.com Wed Sep 8 20:36:36 2004 From: rpatton at advancedlegal.com (Ron Patton) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 13:36:36 -0700 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 Message-ID: Has anyone had success installing Redhat 7.3, or newer, on a Compaq Proliant 1600 server? The install hangs right after it fails to probe the monitor. I have tried v7.3, 8.0, 9.0, 9.1, Fedora, and Suse with the same result each time. I have tried the nofb, noprobe, text, and mem=896M switches to no avail. rj Ronald J. Patton Network Administrator Partnership Coordinator Advanced Legal Systems 503-227-5400 rpatton at advancedlegal.com www.advancedlegal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 11184 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Patton Network Administrator Partnership Coordinator Advanced Legal Systems 503-227-5400 rpatton at advancedlegal.com www.advancedlegal.com _____ From: Waldher, Travis R [mailto:Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:38 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: RE: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 try "nousb" and/or "noapic" _____ From: Ron Patton [mailto:rpatton at advancedlegal.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:37 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 Has anyone had success installing Redhat 7.3, or newer, on a Compaq Proliant 1600 server? The install hangs right after it fails to probe the monitor. I have tried v7.3, 8.0, 9.0, 9.1, Fedora, and Suse with the same result each time. I have tried the nofb, noprobe, text, and mem=896M switches to no avail. rj Ronald J. Patton Network Administrator Partnership Coordinator Advanced Legal Systems 503-227-5400 rpatton at advancedlegal.com www.advancedlegal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 11184 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6634 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From kens at geodax.com Wed Sep 8 20:52:52 2004 From: kens at geodax.com (Ken Scott) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:52:52 -0400 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1094676771.3817.78.camel@KENS02L> On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 16:36, Ron Patton wrote: > Has anyone had success installing Redhat 7.3, or newer, on a Compaq > Proliant 1600 server? The install hangs right after it fails to probe > the monitor. I have tried v7.3, 8.0, 9.0, 9.1, Fedora, and Suse with > the same result each time. I have tried the nofb, noprobe, text, and > mem=896M switches to no avail. > Have you tried to boot a live-CD like Knoppix (really good hardware detection) or Morphix-Gnome (my favorite). You can troubleshoot hardware issues prior to any install and can apply whatever you learn to installing Fedora (or what ever you finally chose to use). Ken From mknecht at controlnet.com Wed Sep 8 21:33:05 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 14:33:05 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' Message-ID: <413F7A91.9080106@controlnet.com> Hi all, Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but that's easy to do. flash Images $ ls -la total 388776 -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 -weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. flash Images $ I tried quoting it, and back/forward slashing it, but I'm not able to get rid of it. thanks, Mark From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Sep 8 22:03:19 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:03:19 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9B5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht at controlnet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:33 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' > > Hi all, > Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's > one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but > that's easy to do. > > flash Images $ ls -la > total 388776 > -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 > -weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma > drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . > drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. > flash Images $ > > I tried quoting it, and back/forward slashing it, but I'm not > able to get rid of it. > > thanks, > Mark Behold, the power of google: http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2003-May/msg00613.html :D I could only find it because my SGI Admin classes taught me about manipulating the inodes; somewhere in my brain I remembered that you could delete them that way. From mknecht at controlnet.com Wed Sep 8 22:35:25 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:35:25 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9B5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9B5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <413F892D.1050903@controlnet.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht at controlnet.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:33 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' >> >>Hi all, >> Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's >>one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but >>that's easy to do. >> >>flash Images $ ls -la >>total 388776 >>-rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 >>-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma >>drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . >>drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. >>flash Images $ >> >>I tried quoting it, and back/forward slashing it, but I'm not >>able to get rid of it. >> >>thanks, >>Mark > > > Behold, the power of google: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2003-May/msg00613.html > > :D > > I could only find it because my SGI Admin classes taught me about > manipulating the inodes; somewhere in my brain I remembered that you > could delete them that way. Waldher, Thanks. Very weird answer, and yet very beautiful also. I haven't tried it yet. Want to read the man pages a bit, but it's cool that the file name maps back to an inode and that you can manipulate those too. Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 8 22:45:13 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:45:13 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: <413F892D.1050903@controlnet.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9B5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <413F892D.1050903@controlnet.com> Message-ID: <413F8B79.4030408@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht at controlnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, >>> September 08, 2004 2:33 PM >>> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>> Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's one for >>> the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but that's easy to do. >>> >>> flash Images $ ls -la >>> total 388776 >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 >>> -weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . >>> drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. >>> flash Images $ >>> >>> I tried quoting it, and back/forward slashing it, but I'm not able to >>> get rid of it. >>> >>> thanks, >>> Mark >> >> >> >> Behold, the power of google: >> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2003-May/msg00613.html >> >> :D >> >> I could only find it because my SGI Admin classes taught me about >> manipulating the inodes; somewhere in my brain I remembered that you >> could delete them that way. > > > Waldher, > Thanks. Very weird answer, and yet very beautiful also. I haven't > tried it yet. Want to read the man pages a bit, but it's cool that the > file name maps back to an inode and that you can manipulate those too. That's always been true. I'd extend the google find by saying that, if you can come up with a pattern that will uniquely identify the file via "ls", you can: find . -name "-viewable-part.*" -exec rm -i -- \{\} \; The inode method is a bit more elegant, but the above will work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "More hay, Trigger?" "No thanks, Roy, I'm stuffed!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 8 22:46:35 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:46:35 -0700 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413F8BCB.30509@vitalstream.com> Ron Patton wrote: > Has anyone had success installing Redhat 7.3, or newer, on a Compaq > Proliant 1600 server? The install hangs right after it fails to probe > the monitor. I have tried v7.3, 8.0, 9.0, 9.1, Fedora, and Suse with > the same result each time. I have tried the nofb, noprobe, text, and > mem=896M switches to no avail. Have you tried "ide=nodma". That's often the culprit on Compaqs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Heisenberg _may_ have slept here - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From hmann at itgroundwork.com Wed Sep 8 22:26:46 2004 From: hmann at itgroundwork.com (Harper Mann) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:26:46 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: <413F7A91.9080106@controlnet.com> Message-ID: <20040908222704.982E760802C@mail2.itgroundwork.com> Try "rm -- -weed*" Also try "rm --help" which is how I remember it. Regards, - Harper Harper Mann Groundwork Open Source Solutions 510-599-2075 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:33 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' Hi all, Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but that's easy to do. flash Images $ ls -la total 388776 -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 -weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. flash Images $ I tried quoting it, and back/forward slashing it, but I'm not able to get rid of it. thanks, Mark _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From csieh at fnal.gov Wed Sep 8 22:08:06 2004 From: csieh at fnal.gov (csieh) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:08:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9B5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht at controlnet.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:33 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' > > > > Hi all, > > Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's > > one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but > > that's easy to do. > > > > flash Images $ ls -la > > total 388776 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 > > -weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma > > drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . > > drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. > > flash Images $ rm ./-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma You just need to make the file not start with a - and using ./ does that. > > > > I tried quoting it, and back/forward slashing it, but I'm not > > able to get rid of it. > > > > thanks, > > Mark > > Behold, the power of google: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2003-May/msg00613.html > > :D > > I could only find it because my SGI Admin classes taught me about > manipulating the inodes; somewhere in my brain I remembered that you > could delete them that way. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -Connie Sieh Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 8 23:41:00 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:41:00 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413F988C.5010504@vitalstream.com> csieh wrote: > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht at controlnet.com] >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:33 PM >>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' >>> >>>Hi all, >>> Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's >>>one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but >>>that's easy to do. >>> >>>flash Images $ ls -la >>>total 388776 >>>-rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 >>>-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma >>>drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . >>>drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. >>>flash Images $ > > > rm ./-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma > > You just need to make the file not start with a - and using ./ does that. Actually, the best way is the "--" option. This works on most basic commands (cp, rm, mv, ls, etc.). "--" is a special flag that says "this is the end of the options...the remainder are parameters". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rpatton at advancedlegal.com Wed Sep 8 23:53:06 2004 From: rpatton at advancedlegal.com (Ron Patton) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:53:06 -0700 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 Message-ID: No, I haven't tried that. But I don't have any IDE drives. Does that matter? rj Ronald J. Patton Network Administrator Partnership Coordinator Advanced Legal Systems 503-227-5400 rpatton at advancedlegal.com www.advancedlegal.com -----Original Message----- From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:47 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 Ron Patton wrote: > Has anyone had success installing Redhat 7.3, or newer, on a Compaq > Proliant 1600 server? The install hangs right after it fails to probe > the monitor. I have tried v7.3, 8.0, 9.0, 9.1, Fedora, and Suse with > the same result each time. I have tried the nofb, noprobe, text, and > mem=896M switches to no avail. Have you tried "ide=nodma". That's often the culprit on Compaqs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Heisenberg _may_ have slept here - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 11184 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6634 bytes Desc: image002.jpg URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 9 00:01:48 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:01:48 -0700 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <413F9D6C.90008@vitalstream.com> Ron Patton wrote: > No, I haven?t tried that. But I don?t have any IDE drives. Does that > matter? Uhm, it still might. Are you certain the CD isn't IDE? Even if it isn't, the system still pokes at the IDE bus and that can hang it. We had to set up about 30 servers in a two day period and about 50% of them needed that even though they were SCSI. I can't recall if they were 1600s or the slightly larger beast, but the "ide=nodma" seemed to do the trick. Once they were running, you could take that out of the boot config so DMA was available for the CD, but the installer kernel couldn't handle it. By the way, Ron, we prefer bottom-posting here on the list (so do most Linux-oriented lists). Just a gentle nudge in the ribs. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mknecht at controlnet.com Thu Sep 9 00:04:23 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:04:23 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: <413F988C.5010504@vitalstream.com> References: <413F988C.5010504@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <413F9E07.3010003@controlnet.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > > Actually, the best way is the "--" option. This works on most basic > commands (cp, rm, mv, ls, etc.). "--" is a special flag that says "this > is the end of the options...the remainder are parameters". I have a friend who always sends me commands to run Wine this way: wine -- Win-prog.exe Never knew why. Thanks! From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Sep 8 22:01:37 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:01:37 -0500 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: <413F7A91.9080106@controlnet.com> References: <413F7A91.9080106@controlnet.com> Message-ID: <20040908220137.GA2279@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 02:33:05PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi all, > Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's one for the > team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but that's easy to do. > > flash Images $ ls -la > total 388776 > -rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 > -weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma > drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . > drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. > flash Images $ > > I tried quoting it, and back/forward slashing it, but I'm not able to > get rid of it. > > thanks, > Mark In most if not all *nix apps, using "--" before the argument you want not interpreded as an option will work, to wit: rm -- -weed* Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From egamez at bonheur.com.ph Thu Sep 9 00:37:39 2004 From: egamez at bonheur.com.ph (Toto Gamez) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 08:37:39 +0800 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 References: Message-ID: <009201c49605$37c9ee40$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph> I have successfully installed both FC2 and RH9 on it but before I have installed RH9 when it reaches probing mouse and monitor it hangs. What I did was to reset the pc until it continue to install, I also recopy the Disk1 of RH9 and used it to install and it works for me. I also commented the usb driver in module.conf I'm not sure if it is true but it conflicted with my mouse, since I will not use usb I remove it from module.conf ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Patton To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:45 AM Subject: RE: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 Thanks for the fast response. I just tried your suggestions and neither worked. rj Ronald J. Patton Network Administrator Partnership Coordinator Advanced Legal Systems 503-227-5400 rpatton at advancedlegal.com www.advancedlegal.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Waldher, Travis R [mailto:Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:38 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: RE: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 try "nousb" and/or "noapic" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ron Patton [mailto:rpatton at advancedlegal.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:37 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 Has anyone had success installing Redhat 7.3, or newer, on a Compaq Proliant 1600 server? The install hangs right after it fails to probe the monitor. I have tried v7.3, 8.0, 9.0, 9.1, Fedora, and Suse with the same result each time. 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Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 6634 bytes Desc: not available URL: From csieh at fnal.gov Thu Sep 9 03:41:03 2004 From: csieh at fnal.gov (csieh) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:41:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: <413F988C.5010504@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Rick Stevens wrote: > csieh wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > > > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht at controlnet.com] > >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:33 PM > >>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>>Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' > >>> > >>>Hi all, > >>> Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's > >>>one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but > >>>that's easy to do. > >>> > >>>flash Images $ ls -la > >>>total 388776 > >>>-rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 > >>>-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma > >>>drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . > >>>drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. > >>>flash Images $ > > > > > > rm ./-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma > > > > You just need to make the file not start with a - and using ./ does that. > > Actually, the best way is the "--" option. This works on most basic > commands (cp, rm, mv, ls, etc.). "--" is a special flag that says "this > is the end of the options...the remainder are parameters". But not all versions of cp,rm,mv,ls have the -- option. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -Connie Sieh From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 9 17:02:07 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 10:02:07 -0700 Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41408C8F.9030504@vitalstream.com> csieh wrote: > On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>csieh wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Mark Knecht [mailto:mknecht at controlnet.com] >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:33 PM >>>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>>Subject: Deleting a file where the first character in name is a '-' >>>>> >>>>>Hi all, >>>>> Since Rick suggested I'd been absent too long ;-) here's >>>>>one for the team. How do I delete this file? I'm stumped, but >>>>>that's easy to do. >>>>> >>>>>flash Images $ ls -la >>>>>total 388776 >>>>>-rw-r--r-- 1 mark users 6920582 Apr 28 15:34 >>>>>-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma >>>>>drwxr-xr-x 2 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:19 . >>>>>drwx------ 70 mark users 4096 Sep 8 14:12 .. >>>>>flash Images $ >>> >>> >>>rm ./-weed-Onion_Jack-Fake_Moon_Landings.wma >>> >>>You just need to make the file not start with a - and using ./ does that. >> >>Actually, the best way is the "--" option. This works on most basic >>commands (cp, rm, mv, ls, etc.). "--" is a special flag that says "this >>is the end of the options...the remainder are parameters". > > > > But not all versions of cp,rm,mv,ls have the -- option. Most _current_ ones do--especially if they're based on later versions of getopt(3). The "-?", "--help" or man page may not explicitly state it, but getopt(3) has supported that since, oh, 1998 or so. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't TOUCH anything!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fdgrant at powercom.net Thu Sep 9 20:22:31 2004 From: fdgrant at powercom.net (Fred Grant) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 15:22:31 -0500 Subject: Linking, etc. Message-ID: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> I have to hard drives, one has RH9 and the other a lightweight distro of FC1. I was able to link my JRE on my lightweight Fedora1 drive to my RH9 drive. This got me to wondering how or if programs on one drive might be run from a different drive? I get segmentation errors if I try to run, say the RH9 evolution, from the Fedora drive. When I'm using Fedora I have the RH9 drive mounted at /mnt/hd. I was contemplating mounting RH9 on a folder in my home directory but I thought I'd best get some advice from some real computer gurus first. Thanks From rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br Thu Sep 9 23:08:04 2004 From: rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br (rodrigofariatavares) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:08:04 -0300 Subject: Drbd in Red Hat EL 3 Message-ID: Hello, I need to install the drbd in Red Hat EL 3. I looked this package in many sites, but i didn?t find it. I would like to know, where I can get this package ? The Kernel is : 2.4.21_4.EL great, Rodrigo Faria __________________________________________________________________________ Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - ? gr?tis! http://antipopup.uol.com.br/ From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 9 23:42:55 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:42:55 -0700 Subject: Linking, etc. In-Reply-To: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> References: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> Message-ID: <4140EA7F.1050805@vitalstream.com> Fred Grant wrote: > I have to hard drives, one has RH9 and the other a lightweight distro of > FC1. I was able to link my JRE on my lightweight Fedora1 drive to my > RH9 drive. This got me to wondering how or if programs on one drive > might be run from a different drive? I get segmentation errors if I try > to run, say the RH9 evolution, from the Fedora drive. When I'm using > Fedora I have the RH9 drive mounted at /mnt/hd. I was contemplating > mounting RH9 on a folder in my home directory but I thought I'd best get > some advice from some real computer gurus first. Some stuff will run and some won't. The problem has to do with which libraries are used by what package and if they're compatible across the platforms. Evolution has gone through a number of changes between RH9 and FC1 so no, they're not compatible. However, jre is the same between RH9 and FC1. Your RH9 jre probably will even run on FC2. In general, it's a "bad idea" to mix your OSes like that. As I said, some things don't mind and others do and that will change depending on what gets updated. To quote John Wayne in "True Grit": "Don't you rely on it, Hawk! Don't you rely on it!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 9 23:44:43 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 16:44:43 -0700 Subject: Drbd in Red Hat EL 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4140EAEB.70506@vitalstream.com> rodrigofariatavares wrote: > Hello, > > I need to install the drbd in Red Hat EL 3. > I looked this package in many sites, but i didn?t find > it. > I would like to know, where I can get this package ? I have no idea what "drbd" is. Can you explain? > The Kernel is : 2.4.21_4.EL The kernel isn't usually important except to debug problems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Thu Sep 9 23:58:17 2004 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Linking, etc. In-Reply-To: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> References: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> Message-ID: <21830.198.60.114.90.1094774297.squirrel@198.60.114.90> > I have to hard drives, one has RH9 and the other a lightweight distro of > FC1. I was able to link my JRE on my lightweight Fedora1 drive to my > RH9 drive. This got me to wondering how or if programs on one drive > might be run from a different drive? I get segmentation errors if I try > to run, say the RH9 evolution, from the Fedora drive. When I'm using > Fedora I have the RH9 drive mounted at /mnt/hd. I was contemplating > mounting RH9 on a folder in my home directory but I thought I'd best get > some advice from some real computer gurus first. > I typically SSH into the other system, then just kick off the app I want to run. It forwards the "window" to my local session and uses the remote libraries, so there's no problem with compatibility. When I NFS drives, I never attempt to run things from a local system on the remote drives. I've seen some very corrupted configuration files by mixing versions that way. Some of the corruption is not reparable without a clean and re-install... Karl > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Fri Sep 10 04:49:16 2004 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Linking, etc. In-Reply-To: <21830.198.60.114.90.1094774297.squirrel@198.60.114.90> References: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> <21830.198.60.114.90.1094774297.squirrel@198.60.114.90> Message-ID: <28172.198.60.114.90.1094791756.squirrel@198.60.114.90> < evil top-poster here > Wow, I read that well... TWO hard drives, not TWO systems. Duh... KLP >> I have to hard drives, one has RH9 and the other a lightweight distro of >> FC1. I was able to link my JRE on my lightweight Fedora1 drive to my >> RH9 drive. This got me to wondering how or if programs on one drive >> might be run from a different drive? I get segmentation errors if I try >> to run, say the RH9 evolution, from the Fedora drive. When I'm using >> Fedora I have the RH9 drive mounted at /mnt/hd. I was contemplating >> mounting RH9 on a folder in my home directory but I thought I'd best get >> some advice from some real computer gurus first. >> > > I typically SSH into the other system, then just kick off the app I want > to run. It forwards the "window" to my local session and uses the remote > libraries, so there's no problem with compatibility. > > When I NFS drives, I never attempt to run things from a local system on > the remote drives. I've seen some very corrupted configuration files by > mixing versions that way. Some of the corruption is not reparable without > a clean and re-install... > > Karl > >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Sep 10 12:39:08 2004 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:39:08 -0400 Subject: Linking, etc. In-Reply-To: <28172.198.60.114.90.1094791756.squirrel@198.60.114.90>; from karlp@ourldsfamily.com on Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 10:49:16PM -0600 References: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> <21830.198.60.114.90.1094774297.squirrel@198.60.114.90> <28172.198.60.114.90.1094791756.squirrel@198.60.114.90> Message-ID: <20040910083908.D30528@redline.comcast.net> On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 10:49:16PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > < evil top-poster here > > > Wow, I read that well... TWO hard drives, not TWO systems. Duh... Well, didn't you know? Top-posting makes you go blind!.... :-) -- Linux/Open Source. Now all your base belongs to you, for free. ============================================================ Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 10 16:07:54 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:07:54 -0700 Subject: Linking, etc. In-Reply-To: <28172.198.60.114.90.1094791756.squirrel@198.60.114.90> References: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> <21830.198.60.114.90.1094774297.squirrel@198.60.114.90> <28172.198.60.114.90.1094791756.squirrel@198.60.114.90> Message-ID: <4141D15A.8060603@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > < evil top-poster here > > > Wow, I read that well... TWO hard drives, not TWO systems. Duh... "I never make mistakes. I thought I did once, but I was wrong." ;-) >>>I have to hard drives, one has RH9 and the other a lightweight distro of >>>FC1. I was able to link my JRE on my lightweight Fedora1 drive to my >>>RH9 drive. This got me to wondering how or if programs on one drive >>>might be run from a different drive? I get segmentation errors if I try >>>to run, say the RH9 evolution, from the Fedora drive. When I'm using >>>Fedora I have the RH9 drive mounted at /mnt/hd. I was contemplating >>>mounting RH9 on a folder in my home directory but I thought I'd best get >>>some advice from some real computer gurus first. >>> >> >>I typically SSH into the other system, then just kick off the app I want >>to run. It forwards the "window" to my local session and uses the remote >>libraries, so there's no problem with compatibility. >> >>When I NFS drives, I never attempt to run things from a local system on >>the remote drives. I've seen some very corrupted configuration files by >>mixing versions that way. Some of the corruption is not reparable without >>a clean and re-install... >> >>Karl >> >> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>>Subject: unsubscribe >>> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The moving cursor writes, and having written, blinks on. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 10 16:08:41 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:08:41 -0700 Subject: Linking, etc. In-Reply-To: <20040910083908.D30528@redline.comcast.net> References: <4140BB87.1050605@powercom.net> <21830.198.60.114.90.1094774297.squirrel@198.60.114.90> <28172.198.60.114.90.1094791756.squirrel@198.60.114.90> <20040910083908.D30528@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4141D189.2040809@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 10:49:16PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >>< evil top-poster here > >> >>Wow, I read that well... TWO hard drives, not TWO systems. Duh... > > > Well, didn't you know? Top-posting makes you go blind!.... :-) And makes you grow hair in weird places. I leave the rest to your imagination. :-p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The moving cursor writes, and having written, blinks on. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From nofri at luk.or.id Sat Sep 11 09:25:35 2004 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:25:35 GMT Subject: Redhat 9 and wingate In-Reply-To: <52286297586D914F8F3E18D487207631E569CF@IHE-EX02.ihe.com> References: <52286297586D914F8F3E18D487207631E569CF@IHE-EX02.ihe.com> Message-ID: <20040911092535.31563.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Hi All, i want to access internet from my redhat9 machine through wingate on a windows millenium machine. but i don't know what to do. i've searched in google, but till now don't find an appropriate description for it. Could someone help me please. Thanks in voraus *nofri* From meetzem at yahoo.com Sun Sep 12 04:25:03 2004 From: meetzem at yahoo.com (Murle "Bubba" Meetze) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 Message-ID: <20040912042503.51437.qmail@web41207.mail.yahoo.com> I am trying to install Redhat 9 on the following. AMD K6-2 400Mhz processor 512 RAM don't know mother board info right now. I get the following error at the start of the packages install. ------------------- Error installing package There was an error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9. The can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, and/or hardware problems. The is a fatal error and your install will be aborted. Please verify your media and try your install again. Press the OK button to reboot your system. ------------------- I have checked the media. I have tried various things: 1. nodma noapic 2. installing to ext2 instead of ext3 partitions. 3. ftp/http install One thing I notice, that the install reports the glibc-common rpm package as like 186,000KB but the actual rpm is only like 12MB. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From sharif at QASCO.com.qa Sun Sep 12 14:34:30 2004 From: sharif at QASCO.com.qa (Sharif Naser) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 17:34:30 +0300 Subject: installing redhat linux on proliant ml370 Message-ID: Hello experts, while installing red hat linux ES AS 3 on compaq proliant ml370, i get the following message after detecting raid storage controllers " no hard drive found " & then after adding the detected drivers it goes till it reaches automatic partitioning or manual partitioning & then whatever i choose it say error & reboots. any help is highly appreciated. 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From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Sun Sep 12 17:25:10 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 10:25:10 -0700 Subject: Redhat 9 and wingate Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9BB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Nofriyadi Nurdam [mailto:nofri at luk.or.id] > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:26 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Redhat 9 and wingate > > Hi All, > > i want to access internet from my redhat9 machine through > wingate on a windows millenium machine. but i don't know what to do. > i've searched in google, but till now don't find an > appropriate description for it. > Could someone help me please. > Thanks in voraus > > *nofri* Just setup Mozilla for the right ports/IP. Or are you talking full IP access to the internet. From res73gzq at verizon.net Sun Sep 12 18:09:25 2004 From: res73gzq at verizon.net (John Killam) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 08:09:25 -1000 Subject: Redhat 9 and wingate References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9BB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <000f01c498f3$a4b3acd0$1200a8c0@presario> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waldher, Travis R" To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:25 AM Subject: RE: Redhat 9 and wingate > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nofriyadi Nurdam [mailto:nofri at luk.or.id] > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:26 AM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Redhat 9 and wingate > > > > Hi All, > > > > i want to access internet from my redhat9 machine through > > wingate on a windows millenium machine. but i don't know what to do. > > i've searched in google, but till now don't find an > > appropriate description for it. > > Could someone help me please. > > Thanks in voraus > > > > *nofri* > > Just setup Mozilla for the right ports/IP. > > Or are you talking full IP access to the internet. > > Do you have the Wingate that comes with a client module? > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From res73gzq at verizon.net Sun Sep 12 18:16:31 2004 From: res73gzq at verizon.net (John Killam) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 08:16:31 -1000 Subject: Redhat 9 and wingate References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9BB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <001401c498f4$a251d290$1200a8c0@presario> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waldher, Travis R" To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:25 AM Subject: RE: Redhat 9 and wingate > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nofriyadi Nurdam [mailto:nofri at luk.or.id] > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:26 AM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Redhat 9 and wingate > > > > Hi All, > > > > i want to access internet from my redhat9 machine through > > wingate on a windows millenium machine. but i don't know what to do. > > i've searched in google, but till now don't find an > > appropriate description for it. > > Could someone help me please. > > Thanks in voraus > > > > *nofri* > > Just setup Mozilla for the right ports/IP. > > Or are you talking full IP access to the internet. What machine is the Wingate server? I had a problem one time with Wingate requiring client modules. I switched to analogx Proxy Server: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm (no client software required.) I now use a cable router. It might be your better choice, altho it may cost a couple of bucks. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Sep 12 19:12:14 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:12:14 -0500 Subject: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 In-Reply-To: <20040912042503.51437.qmail@web41207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040912042503.51437.qmail@web41207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040912191214.GB2551@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 09:25:03PM -0700, Murle Bubba Meetze wrote: > I am trying to install Redhat 9 on the following. > > AMD K6-2 400Mhz processor > 512 RAM > don't know mother board info right now. > > I get the following error at the start of the packages > install. > > ------------------- > Error installing package > > There was an error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9. > The can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, > and/or hardware problems. The is a fatal error and > your install will be aborted. Please verify your > media and try your install again. > > Press the OK button to reboot your system. > ------------------- > > I have checked the media. I have tried various > things: > > 1. nodma noapic > 2. installing to ext2 instead of ext3 partitions. > 3. ftp/http install > > One thing I notice, that the install reports the > glibc-common rpm package as like 186,000KB but the > actual rpm is only like 12MB. The true nature of the error will be found in /root/install.log (boot into rescue mode* when you reboot), or if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F4 at the time of the failure, one of those may also have that information. *Rescue mode: With the install CD in the drive, put "linux rescue" at the boot prompt. Let it mount your (partial) install if it wants to, at /mnt/sysimage, then cd /mnt/sysimage/root cat install.log Use "exit" to reboot or re-attempt the install. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From steve.carr at fl.ngb.army.mil Sun Sep 12 19:56:21 2004 From: steve.carr at fl.ngb.army.mil (Carr, Steve M CW4 FL-ARNG) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:56:21 -0400 Subject: VMWare & Linux 7.3 Message-ID: I have a 2003 Server with VMWare on it and I loaded Linux 7.3 and selected GNOME as its GUI interface. However, every time I boot Linux it comes up in text mode. How can I fix it to load GNOME on boot ? Steven M. Carr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thx & Rgds, SCHYU "Sharif Naser" To: Sent by: cc: redhat-install-list-bounces@ Subject: installing redhat linux on proliant ml370 redhat.com 2004-09-12 22:34 Please respond to Getting started with Red Hat Linux Hello experts, while installing red hat linux ES AS 3 on compaq proliant ml370, i get the following message after detecting raid storage controllers " no hard drive found " & then after adding the detected drivers it goes till it reaches automatic partitioning or manual partitioning & then whatever i choose it say error & reboots. any help is highly appreciated. Regards, DISCLAIMER: This electronic message transmission contains information from Qatar Steel Company (QASCO) which may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual or entity named above. Be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attachments, is prohibited without the written consent of Qatar Steel Company (QASCO). _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From purplrain85 at hotmail.com Mon Sep 13 07:26:05 2004 From: purplrain85 at hotmail.com (Ai Chee Sin) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 07:26:05 +0000 Subject: Difference? Message-ID: Hi, What's the difference between the following 2 kernel: Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.xsmp) and Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.x) -- Sin Ai Chee Student from Nanyang Polytechnic Singapore _________________________________________________________________ Take a break! Find destinations on MSN Travel. http://www.msn.com.sg/travel/ From admin at tootai.net Mon Sep 13 07:44:30 2004 From: admin at tootai.net (administrator tootai) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:44:30 +0200 Subject: Difference? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41454FDE.7000209@tootai.net> Ai Chee Sin a ?crit : > Hi, > > What's the difference between the following 2 kernel: > > Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.xsmp) > and > Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.x) SMP = Symmetric Multi-processing support. If you have 2 or more processors on your motherboard. -- Daniel From alvaro.vives at consulintel.es Mon Sep 13 07:43:49 2004 From: alvaro.vives at consulintel.es (Alvaro Vives) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:43:49 +0200 Subject: Difference? References: Message-ID: <018801c49965$6a2dce70$ce00000a@consulintel.es> Hi, It's easy, smp means SMP support, i.e., Symmetric Multi-Processor support. In my case RH noticed that I had 2 processors and installed two kernel images one with smp support and the common one. Both available in the boot loader with the smp one being the default one. (Not sure if you discovered smp this way :-) You can take a look at the following HOWTO: Parallel-Processing-HOWTO: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Parallel-Processing-HOWTO.html Hope this helps. Alvaro Vives ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ai Chee Sin" To: Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 9:26 AM Subject: Difference? > Hi, > > What's the difference between the following 2 kernel: > > Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.xsmp) > and > Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.x) > > > -- > Sin Ai Chee > Student from Nanyang Polytechnic > Singapore > > _________________________________________________________________ > Take a break! Find destinations on MSN Travel. http://www.msn.com.sg/travel/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > ********************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. From David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com Mon Sep 13 15:45:41 2004 From: David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com (David Mackintosh) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:45:41 -0400 Subject: Difference? In-Reply-To: <41454FDE.7000209@tootai.net> References: <41454FDE.7000209@tootai.net> Message-ID: <20040913154541.GB23093@xdroop.com> On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 09:44:30AM +0200, administrator tootai wrote: > Ai Chee Sin a ?crit : > > >Hi, > > > >What's the difference between the following 2 kernel: > > > >Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.xsmp) > >and > >Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-27.7.x) > > SMP = Symmetric Multi-processing support. If you have 2 or more > processors on your motherboard. It might also mean you have a Hyperthreaded-enabled CPU with Hyperthreading enabled. RedHat 7.3 is kinda stupid that way. -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | Public Key: dave at xdroop.com | http://www.xdroop.com/dave/gpg.html $ gpg --recv-keys --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 4C032504 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Sep 13 16:03:14 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:03:14 -0700 Subject: installing redhat linux on proliant ml370 Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9BC@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharif Naser [mailto:sharif at QASCO.com.qa] > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:35 AM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: installing redhat linux on proliant ml370 > > Hello experts, > while installing red hat linux ES AS 3 on compaq proliant > ml370, i get the following message after detecting raid > storage controllers " no hard drive found " & then after > adding the detected drivers it goes till it reaches automatic > partitioning or manual partitioning & then whatever i choose > it say error & reboots. > > any help is highly appreciated. > > Regards, Which array controller is in it? If it is the 6400 Series I'm not sure the cciss drivers shipped with AS3.0 are compatible. But not having a controller on hand, I can't confirm that. If your still broken in about a month, I'll have a ML370 on hand I can load with AS3.0 real fast to let you know what the problem is. I'm assuming you already went in to the array controller before installing linux and created your drive arrays, right? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Sep 13 16:36:58 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:36:58 -0700 Subject: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 In-Reply-To: <20040912191214.GB2551@bobcat.cumbytel.com> References: <20040912042503.51437.qmail@web41207.mail.yahoo.com> <20040912191214.GB2551@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: <4145CCAA.3040809@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 09:25:03PM -0700, Murle Bubba Meetze wrote: > >>I am trying to install Redhat 9 on the following. >> >>AMD K6-2 400Mhz processor >>512 RAM >>don't know mother board info right now. >> >>I get the following error at the start of the packages >>install. >> >>------------------- >>Error installing package >> >>There was an error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9. >> The can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, >>and/or hardware problems. The is a fatal error and >>your install will be aborted. Please verify your >>media and try your install again. >> >>Press the OK button to reboot your system. >>------------------- >> >>I have checked the media. I have tried various >>things: >> >>1. nodma noapic >>2. installing to ext2 instead of ext3 partitions. >>3. ftp/http install >> >>One thing I notice, that the install reports the >>glibc-common rpm package as like 186,000KB but the >>actual rpm is only like 12MB. > > > The true nature of the error will be found in /root/install.log (boot > into rescue mode* when you reboot), or if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F4 > at the time of the failure, one of those may also have that > information. > > *Rescue mode: With the install CD in the drive, put "linux rescue" at > the boot prompt. Let it mount your (partial) install if it wants to, > at /mnt/sysimage, then > > cd /mnt/sysimage/root > cat install.log > > Use "exit" to reboot or re-attempt the install. Are you certain you have enough free space on the hard drive? The pre-install check isn't really complete. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Is that a buffer overflow or are you just happy to see me? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Mon Sep 13 18:42:45 2004 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:42:45 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer Message-ID: Hello, I am hoping to build a computer that I can dual boot Linux and Windows (Sorry, my wife has programs she uses to assist her in writing that are only windows). Does anyone know of hardware that has no trouble with Linux, or a good source of info about it. I probably didn't follow google far enough, but the sourceforge articles it pointed to were not entirely relevent. I would like to use an AMD 64 bit processor Socket 754 (or Socket 939 if it doesn't break the bank), will probably get an ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 Pro graphics card, a SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS, US Robotics 56K Modem, and some sort of DVD +-R +-RW drive. Any wisdom on if any of this works or doesn't work with Linux would be appreciated. Also, I may have to step down to a 32 bit processor depending on the overall cost of the system, so feel free to comment on those too. I am also a bit confused about what I should be looking for on the power supply to make sure I am getting one that supports software shutdown. Thanks in advance. Regards, Bruce From linuxr at gmail.com Mon Sep 13 20:32:24 2004 From: linuxr at gmail.com (linux r) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:32:24 -0400 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bruce, A few thoughts for what it's worth. 1. Most of the problems are going to come from wanting to run really new and old hardware together. For example, a DVD burner with older hardware will likely give you some issues that are real time-wasters. Sounds like you are on board with good hardware though. That'll be good, since M$ operating systems drain system resources like (fill in analogy here).... 2. The other thing is cost. For example I was going to build a box for someone a while back but I (as an individual) was unable to buy parts and assemble a box for as cheap as just going out and buying a Dell or something. Determine what dollar figure is too much, say, $500 or something, and make sure you stay within. I have seen someone spend $1200 on building a box with all the latest and greatest---real macho but stupid when you can buy a heck of a machine and just customize the order without ever getting your hands dirty. 3. Talk to some LUG people about what they have seen and done. Maybe you will luck out and someone in your LUG will have or be able to demo a machine for not too much. I haven't spec'd out this machine, but it really helps to see what people have done already. 4. sites: walmart.com (look under pc's without Os-es for about $250 i hear) http://www.tomshardware.com/ redhat.com (search for hardware compatibility list-- HCL) linuxmigration.com (highly recommended - also site has good burner tutorial etc.) http://www.xandros.com/ 5. If you are able to convince your wife that she could still run windows apps in a linux environment, you could set up a very businessline Xandros environment that is windows-friendly. Then, instead of shelling out hundred$ of dollar$, you could just buy an application called 'crossover' that will basically supply the windows api's for windows apps. Openoffice.org will do most everything else you want for free. Then you solve the best of all worlds - get a windows- looking gui, that is more secure than windows, still runs a linux kernel, and just wind up shelling out about $60 for the application. Whoops! just checked the xandros site -- looks like you would get that for free. 6. If all else fails, at least hardware wise, you can get a lot of questions answered by talking to a linux vendor about a system. NON-RETAIL sales guys deal in the hardware every.single.day and they would be in the know specifically regarding compatibility. You could buy identical hardware. You could also try buying a 'server' that is a couple of years old, but still a decent speed machine (with whatever specs you decide that is). That might be a happy medium of not-too-old and not-too-new. Also the bus is important. Sometimes with higher throughput, you get a faster box because of bottlenecks. Again, these guys know the hardware a lot better than many people I know in the Linux world since most of us probably focus on the OS. 7. I don't see any other hw issues with the parts you mentioned, at least not off the top of my head. One other idea might be to get a machine that is a couple of years old, and rely on the USB for external DVD burner usage. In other words, you could treat the DVD as an 'add on' device. Out of everything you mentioned, the DVD burner is probably the newest and least supported thing out there. If you could get the system going without it, all you would have to mess with would be USB support and whatever kernel or driver issues that may or may not exist for that hardware (or other hardware you could swap if further problems existed). Hope that helps linuxr On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:42:45 -0800, Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello, > > I am hoping to build a computer that I can dual boot Linux and Windows > (Sorry, my wife has programs she uses to assist her in writing that are > only windows). > > Does anyone know of hardware that has no trouble with Linux, or a good > source of info about it. I probably didn't follow google far enough, but > the sourceforge articles it pointed to were not entirely relevent. > > I would like to use an AMD 64 bit processor Socket 754 (or Socket 939 if it > doesn't break the bank), will probably get an ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 Pro > graphics card, a SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS, US Robotics 56K Modem, and some > sort of DVD +-R +-RW drive. > > Any wisdom on if any of this works or doesn't work with Linux would be > appreciated. > Also, I may have to step down to a 32 bit processor depending on the overall > cost of the system, so feel free to comment on those too. > > I am also a bit confused about what I should be looking for on the power > supply to make sure I am getting one that supports software shutdown. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > Bruce > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From jim at steelhead.com Tue Sep 14 17:24:21 2004 From: jim at steelhead.com (Jim Smith) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:24:21 -0600 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 In-Reply-To: <413F9D6C.90008@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: >Ron Patton wrote: >> No, I haven?t tried that. But I don?t have any IDE drives. Does that >> matter? > >Uhm, it still might. Are you certain the CD isn't IDE? Even if it >isn't, the system still pokes at the IDE bus and that can hang it. We >had to set up about 30 servers in a two day period and about 50% of them >needed that even though they were SCSI. I can't recall if they were >1600s or the slightly larger beast, but the "ide=nodma" seemed to do >the trick. Once they were running, you could take that out of the boot >config so DMA was available for the CD, but the installer kernel >couldn't handle it. > >By the way, Ron, we prefer bottom-posting here on the list (so do most >Linux-oriented lists). Just a gentle nudge in the ribs. :-) >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >- - >- C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - >---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry I'm so long in responding. I've been working up at the cabin for some time. Assuming that your machine has 256 Mb RAM (Substitute as appropriate), try: linux mem=exactmap mem=640K at 0 mem=255M at 1M Remember Jerry; Jim Smith From meetzem at yahoo.com Tue Sep 14 18:36:39 2004 From: meetzem at yahoo.com (Murle "Bubba" Meetze) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 Message-ID: <20040914183639.46551.qmail@web41209.mail.yahoo.com> The system should have enough free space on it. This is a system that the only thing on the hard drive will be Linux RH9.0. I am going to try the other comment once I get the chance to look at the install.log file. I tried once before, but it was where I had to create a boot diskette and then boot the system up after a reboot. I never found the install.log file. I am going to attempt it again, possibly tonight. Thanks, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 09:25:03PM -0700, Murle Bubba Meetze wrote: > >>I am trying to install Redhat 9 on the following. >> >>AMD K6-2 400Mhz processor >>512 RAM >>don't know mother board info right now. >> >>I get the following error at the start of the packages >>install. >> >>------------------- >>Error installing package >> >>There was an error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9. >> The can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, >>and/or hardware problems. The is a fatal error and >>your install will be aborted. Please verify your >>media and try your install again. >> >>Press the OK button to reboot your system. >>------------------- >> >>I have checked the media. I have tried various >>things: >> >>1. nodma noapic >>2. installing to ext2 instead of ext3 partitions. >>3. ftp/http install >> >>One thing I notice, that the install reports the >>glibc-common rpm package as like 186,000KB but the >>actual rpm is only like 12MB. > > > The true nature of the error will be found in /root/install.log (boot > into rescue mode* when you reboot), or if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F4 > at the time of the failure, one of those may also have that > information. > > *Rescue mode: With the install CD in the drive, put "linux rescue" at > the boot prompt. Let it mount your (partial) install if it wants to, > at /mnt/sysimage, then > > cd /mnt/sysimage/root > cat install.log > > Use "exit" to reboot or re-attempt the install. Are you certain you have enough free space on the hard drive? The pre-install check isn't really complete. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Is that a buffer overflow or are you just happy to see me? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From larry.cotton at ntlworld.com Tue Sep 14 18:59:56 2004 From: larry.cotton at ntlworld.com (Larrys Account) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:59:56 +0100 Subject: Printer Installation & Printing on redhat Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040914195907.02150fa0@alex> Not sure whether this message got through and I forgot to put a subject on it - so sending it again. Apologies if it is a repeat. Hi I've just got an Epson stylus C66 printer and I'm trying to set it up as a local printer. I'm using red-hat 8, kernel version 2.4.18-14. I would like to use CUPS as my printing system and the printer uses a USB port. I have the usb-uhci usb driver installed. /sbin/lsmod | grep usb gives: usb-uhci 26188 0 (unused) usbcore 77024 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] I've tried to add the printer using the Printer configuration too (System Settings->Printing) using the following entries: Queue name: epsonC66 printer device: /dev/usb/lp0 driver: Epson->Stylus C60->gimp-print(*) But when I do a Test print I get a dialog with the message: There was an error trying to print the test page. Could someone help me with how to go about troubleshooting this. I don't really know anything about the printing process, so I'm not sure exactly what components are involved and therefore what components I need. From what I've read I need to have some sort of spooling software daemon (I'm wanting to use cups - I'm currently using one that came with redhat), a filter that can translate the print job data into printer commands (apparently a filter, foomatic, is used with CUPS) and a driver that is compatible with the printer (gimp-print, I think should work). I have a few questions (listed below) that have come up while I've been trying to get printing to work. Does anyone has any answers, or can tell me where I can start looking to get the information ... ? 1) It seems the epson stylus C66 is not explicitly listed in linuxprinting.org. This was an oversight on my part, having looked and thought that all the C6* series were listed. My searches over the internet, however, have suggested that the C66 works using gimp-print. Am I correct in that assumption or is it not possible to use C66 with linux ? 2) Could anyone tell me how CUPS, foomatic and the gimp-print driver fit together. Am I likely to need to install new versions of them ? And if so: Where are they located on redhat ? How to I find out what versions I have ? Where can I get compatible versions from with instructions on how to install them ? 3) The CUPS documentation talks about PPD files that describe the capabilities of the printer. Where are these stored under redhat and where might I be able to get hold of one for the C66 ? 4) Are there any log files I can look at that might give me some more error information ? Cheers Larry From sharif at QASCO.com.qa Tue Sep 14 19:50:37 2004 From: sharif at QASCO.com.qa (Sharif Naser) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:50:37 +0300 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16 Message-ID: I have created logical drives through the configuration utility of the raid controller but i think the storage controller of the ml370 need firmware upgrade. do i need to do anything after that or just plug in the redhat cd & start installing. Regards, -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com] Sent: Tue 9/14/2004 7:00 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Cc: Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16 Send Redhat-install-list mailing list submissions to redhat-install-list at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at redhat-install-list-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Redhat-install-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: installing redhat linux on proliant ml370 (Waldher, Travis R) 2. Re: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 (Rick Stevens) 3. Building a new computer (Bruce McDonald) 4. Re: Building a new computer (linux r) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:03:14 -0700 From: "Waldher, Travis R" Subject: RE: installing redhat linux on proliant ml370 To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9BC at xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharif Naser [mailto:sharif at QASCO.com.qa] > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:35 AM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: installing redhat linux on proliant ml370 > > Hello experts, > while installing red hat linux ES AS 3 on compaq proliant > ml370, i get the following message after detecting raid > storage controllers " no hard drive found " & then after > adding the detected drivers it goes till it reaches automatic > partitioning or manual partitioning & then whatever i choose > it say error & reboots. > > any help is highly appreciated. > > Regards, Which array controller is in it? If it is the 6400 Series I'm not sure the cciss drivers shipped with AS3.0 are compatible. But not having a controller on hand, I can't confirm that. If your still broken in about a month, I'll have a ML370 on hand I can load with AS3.0 real fast to let you know what the problem is. I'm assuming you already went in to the array controller before installing linux and created your drive arrays, right? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:36:58 -0700 From: Rick Stevens Subject: Re: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <4145CCAA.3040809 at vitalstream.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 09:25:03PM -0700, Murle Bubba Meetze wrote: > >>I am trying to install Redhat 9 on the following. >> >>AMD K6-2 400Mhz processor >>512 RAM >>don't know mother board info right now. >> >>I get the following error at the start of the packages >>install. >> >>------------------- >>Error installing package >> >>There was an error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9. >> The can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, >>and/or hardware problems. The is a fatal error and >>your install will be aborted. Please verify your >>media and try your install again. >> >>Press the OK button to reboot your system. >>------------------- >> >>I have checked the media. I have tried various >>things: >> >>1. nodma noapic >>2. installing to ext2 instead of ext3 partitions. >>3. ftp/http install >> >>One thing I notice, that the install reports the >>glibc-common rpm package as like 186,000KB but the >>actual rpm is only like 12MB. > > > The true nature of the error will be found in /root/install.log (boot > into rescue mode* when you reboot), or if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F4 > at the time of the failure, one of those may also have that > information. > > *Rescue mode: With the install CD in the drive, put "linux rescue" at > the boot prompt. Let it mount your (partial) install if it wants to, > at /mnt/sysimage, then > > cd /mnt/sysimage/root > cat install.log > > Use "exit" to reboot or re-attempt the install. Are you certain you have enough free space on the hard drive? The pre-install check isn't really complete. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Is that a buffer overflow or are you just happy to see me? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:42:45 -0800 From: Bruce McDonald Subject: Building a new computer To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain Hello, I am hoping to build a computer that I can dual boot Linux and Windows (Sorry, my wife has programs she uses to assist her in writing that are only windows). Does anyone know of hardware that has no trouble with Linux, or a good source of info about it. I probably didn't follow google far enough, but the sourceforge articles it pointed to were not entirely relevent. I would like to use an AMD 64 bit processor Socket 754 (or Socket 939 if it doesn't break the bank), will probably get an ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 Pro graphics card, a SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS, US Robotics 56K Modem, and some sort of DVD +-R +-RW drive. Any wisdom on if any of this works or doesn't work with Linux would be appreciated. Also, I may have to step down to a 32 bit processor depending on the overall cost of the system, so feel free to comment on those too. I am also a bit confused about what I should be looking for on the power supply to make sure I am getting one that supports software shutdown. Thanks in advance. Regards, Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:32:24 -0400 From: linux r Subject: Re: Building a new computer To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, A few thoughts for what it's worth. 1. Most of the problems are going to come from wanting to run really new and old hardware together. For example, a DVD burner with older hardware will likely give you some issues that are real time-wasters. Sounds like you are on board with good hardware though. That'll be good, since M$ operating systems drain system resources like (fill in analogy here).... 2. The other thing is cost. For example I was going to build a box for someone a while back but I (as an individual) was unable to buy parts and assemble a box for as cheap as just going out and buying a Dell or something. Determine what dollar figure is too much, say, $500 or something, and make sure you stay within. I have seen someone spend $1200 on building a box with all the latest and greatest---real macho but stupid when you can buy a heck of a machine and just customize the order without ever getting your hands dirty. 3. Talk to some LUG people about what they have seen and done. Maybe you will luck out and someone in your LUG will have or be able to demo a machine for not too much. I haven't spec'd out this machine, but it really helps to see what people have done already. 4. sites: walmart.com (look under pc's without Os-es for about $250 i hear) http://www.tomshardware.com/ redhat.com (search for hardware compatibility list-- HCL) linuxmigration.com (highly recommended - also site has good burner tutorial etc.) http://www.xandros.com/ 5. If you are able to convince your wife that she could still run windows apps in a linux environment, you could set up a very businessline Xandros environment that is windows-friendly. Then, instead of shelling out hundred$ of dollar$, you could just buy an application called 'crossover' that will basically supply the windows api's for windows apps. Openoffice.org will do most everything else you want for free. Then you solve the best of all worlds - get a windows- looking gui, that is more secure than windows, still runs a linux kernel, and just wind up shelling out about $60 for the application. Whoops! just checked the xandros site -- looks like you would get that for free. 6. If all else fails, at least hardware wise, you can get a lot of questions answered by talking to a linux vendor about a system. NON-RETAIL sales guys deal in the hardware every.single.day and they would be in the know specifically regarding compatibility. You could buy identical hardware. You could also try buying a 'server' that is a couple of years old, but still a decent speed machine (with whatever specs you decide that is). That might be a happy medium of not-too-old and not-too-new. Also the bus is important. Sometimes with higher throughput, you get a faster box because of bottlenecks. Again, these guys know the hardware a lot better than many people I know in the Linux world since most of us probably focus on the OS. 7. I don't see any other hw issues with the parts you mentioned, at least not off the top of my head. One other idea might be to get a machine that is a couple of years old, and rely on the USB for external DVD burner usage. In other words, you could treat the DVD as an 'add on' device. Out of everything you mentioned, the DVD burner is probably the newest and least supported thing out there. If you could get the system going without it, all you would have to mess with would be USB support and whatever kernel or driver issues that may or may not exist for that hardware (or other hardware you could swap if further problems existed). Hope that helps linuxr On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:42:45 -0800, Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello, > > I am hoping to build a computer that I can dual boot Linux and Windows > (Sorry, my wife has programs she uses to assist her in writing that are > only windows). > > Does anyone know of hardware that has no trouble with Linux, or a good > source of info about it. I probably didn't follow google far enough, but > the sourceforge articles it pointed to were not entirely relevent. > > I would like to use an AMD 64 bit processor Socket 754 (or Socket 939 if it > doesn't break the bank), will probably get an ATI All-in-Wonder 9000 Pro > graphics card, a SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS, US Robotics 56K Modem, and some > sort of DVD +-R +-RW drive. > > Any wisdom on if any of this works or doesn't work with Linux would be > appreciated. > Also, I may have to step down to a 32 bit processor depending on the overall > cost of the system, so feel free to comment on those too. > > I am also a bit confused about what I should be looking for on the power > supply to make sure I am getting one that supports software shutdown. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > Bruce > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list End of Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 16 ************************************************** DISCLAIMER: This electronic message transmission contains information from Qatar Steel Company (QASCO) which may be confidential or privileged. 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On booting a couple of them I am getting an intermittent problem, along the lines of: aacraid AUTOINSTALL not set in dkms.conf module ignored Kernel panic: Fatal Exception Call Trace: [] scsi_setup_host [scsi_mod] Oxb6 (0xc989fe88) aac_pci_tb [aacraid] 0x0 (0xc989feac) I suspect it will appear on all of them as they are built the same. At the above point the machine needs to be reboot. I checked out the /etc/modules.conf file for card addresses as per some suggestions but there are none. Downloaded the latest RAID driver from Dell's website and found out its already on. I have still to update the firmware, another suggestion from Dell. This is quite a big project and certainly has and will have the visibility here in NZ. Any pointers greatly appreciated. Colin From rpatton at advancedlegal.com Tue Sep 14 22:18:18 2004 From: rpatton at advancedlegal.com (Ron Patton) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:18:18 -0700 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 Message-ID: That didn't work either. Now here is the strange part... I just installed SuSe 9.1 with no problems so what's wrong with RedHat 9.1? BTW - Sorry for the top posting but we use Exchange/Outlook and I don't know of a way to change to bottom posting for a single reply. Ronald J. Patton Network Administrator Partnership Coordinator Advanced Legal Systems 503-227-5400 rpatton at advancedlegal.com www.advancedlegal.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Smith [mailto:jim at steelhead.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:24 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: RE: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 >Ron Patton wrote: >> No, I haven't tried that. But I don't have any IDE drives. Does that >> matter? > >Uhm, it still might. Are you certain the CD isn't IDE? Even if it >isn't, the system still pokes at the IDE bus and that can hang it. We >had to set up about 30 servers in a two day period and about 50% of them >needed that even though they were SCSI. I can't recall if they were >1600s or the slightly larger beast, but the "ide=nodma" seemed to do >the trick. Once they were running, you could take that out of the boot >config so DMA was available for the CD, but the installer kernel >couldn't handle it. > >By the way, Ron, we prefer bottom-posting here on the list (so do most >Linux-oriented lists). Just a gentle nudge in the ribs. :-) >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >- - >- C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - >---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry I'm so long in responding. I've been working up at the cabin for some time. Assuming that your machine has 256 Mb RAM (Substitute as appropriate), try: linux mem=exactmap mem=640K at 0 mem=255M at 1M Remember Jerry; Jim Smith _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Tue Sep 14 23:19:25 2004 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:19:25 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer Message-ID: It appears my reply went only to the writer and not to the list... so here it is again straight to the list. Hello linux r, Thank you for the quick reply > 2. The other thing is cost. For example I was going to build a box > for someone a while back but I (as an individual) was unable to buy > parts and assemble a box for as cheap as just going out and buying a > Dell or something. Determine what dollar figure is too much, say, > $500 or something, and make sure you stay within. I have seen someone > spend $1200 on building a box with all the latest and greatest---real > macho but stupid when you can buy a heck of a machine and just > customize the order without ever getting your hands dirty. I have been finding their customizing options a bit limited. I have even considered after purchase upgrades to get what I want in a more inexpensive system, however at that point they don't seem to have enough available slots. (Maybe I was forgetting to visualize pulling out a card that would be replaced.... will have to check again) > 3. Talk to some LUG people about what they have seen and done. Maybe > you will luck out and someone in your LUG will have or be able to demo > a machine for not too much. I haven't spec'd out this machine, but it > really helps to see what people have done already. Good idea. I thought Rick or others on this list had already started playing with the 64 bit processor systems. Though I couldn't find the mails. > 4. sites: > walmart.com (look under pc's without Os-es for about $250 i hear) > #http://www.tomshardware.com/# > redhat.com (search for hardware compatibility list-- HCL) > linuxmigration.com (highly recommended - also site has good burner > tutorial etc.) > #http://www.xandros.com/# Thank you for the links, and your other ideas. It gave me more to think about. Regards, Bruce From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 14 23:49:54 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:49:54 -0700 Subject: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <414783A2.9050909@vitalstream.com> Ron Patton wrote: > That didn't work either. Which of the several suggestions didn't work? This is the problem with top posting, gang. > Now here is the strange part... I just installed SuSe 9.1 with no > problems so what's wrong with RedHat 9.1? There is no such beast as RedHat 9.1. RedHat Linux ended with RedHat 9. Free versions are now called "FC1" (Fedora Core 1) and "FC2" (Fedora Core 2). Purchased versions are "AS3" (Advanced Server 3), "ES3" (Enhanced Server 3), "WS3" (Work Station 3), and "RHD3" (RedHat Desktop 3). > BTW - Sorry for the top posting but we use Exchange/Outlook and I don't > know of a way to change to bottom posting for a single reply. Click "Reply", scroll to the bottom of part of the text you want to reply to and start your text. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Smith [mailto:jim at steelhead.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:24 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: RE: Install hangs on Proliant 1600 > > >>Ron Patton wrote: >> >>>No, I haven't tried that. But I don't have any IDE drives. Does > > that > >>>matter? >> >>Uhm, it still might. Are you certain the CD isn't IDE? Even if it >>isn't, the system still pokes at the IDE bus and that can hang it. We >>had to set up about 30 servers in a two day period and about 50% of > > them > >>needed that even though they were SCSI. I can't recall if they were >>1600s or the slightly larger beast, but the "ide=nodma" seemed to do >>the trick. Once they were running, you could take that out of the boot >>config so DMA was available for the CD, but the installer kernel >>couldn't handle it. >> >>By the way, Ron, we prefer bottom-posting here on the list (so do most >>Linux-oriented lists). Just a gentle nudge in the ribs. :-) >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Sorry I'm so long in responding. I've been working up at the cabin for > some > time. Assuming that your machine has 256 Mb RAM (Substitute as > appropriate), try: > > linux mem=exactmap mem=640K at 0 mem=255M at 1M > > Remember Jerry; > > Jim Smith > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If it's stupid and it works...it ain't stupid! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 15 00:15:17 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:15:17 -0700 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41478995.4070107@vitalstream.com> Bruce McDonald wrote: [snip] >>3. Talk to some LUG people about what they have seen and done. Maybe >>you will luck out and someone in your LUG will have or be able to demo >>a machine for not too much. I haven't spec'd out this machine, but it >>really helps to see what people have done already. > > > Good idea. > I thought Rick or others on this list had already started playing with the > 64 bit processor systems. Though I couldn't find the mails. I do have an AMD64. I can't recall which motherboard I used, however. I think it's the ASUS K8T-VE, but I won't swear to it. Let me look when I get home to verify it. I'm also using an ATI Radeon 9600SE video card The FC2 driver for the on-board 10/100 Marvell card's driver was broken (flooded the syslogs with a meaningless message), so I went with an Intel PCI gigabit card. I understand the newer Marvell driver works better but I haven't tried it. I put 1GB of RAM on it and installed FC2 (64-bit) on it. All in all, I've very happy (the bloody thing compiles code like a rocket!) Be warned: There are a number of Mozilla plugins that won't install on the 64-bit platform (Macromedia FLASH, for example). They will work fine if you fool the installer by poking stuff into /proc so it looks like an Athlon or i686. A google search will reveal the method to use. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From meetzem at yahoo.com Wed Sep 15 04:29:28 2004 From: meetzem at yahoo.com (Murle "Bubba" Meetze) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 Message-ID: <20040915042928.57055.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Ok, I also have tried Fedora Core 2 and I am seeing the same problem. I did the CNTL+ALT+F1 through F4 to get to a virtual console. I checked the install.log file and see the following error. Installing glibc-common-2.3.3-27.i386 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/locale/da_DK.iso885915/LC_TYPE: 4147659c: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch I have looked online and tried once again a couple of things. Changed SDRAM, tried booting with linux ide=nodma. Still nothing. Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 09:25:03PM -0700, Murle Bubba Meetze wrote: > >>I am trying to install Redhat 9 on the following. >> >>AMD K6-2 400Mhz processor >>512 RAM >>don't know mother board info right now. >> >>I get the following error at the start of the packages >>install. >> >>------------------- >>Error installing package >> >>There was an error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9. >> The can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, >>and/or hardware problems. The is a fatal error and >>your install will be aborted. Please verify your >>media and try your install again. >> >>Press the OK button to reboot your system. >>------------------- >> >>I have checked the media. I have tried various >>things: >> >>1. nodma noapic >>2. installing to ext2 instead of ext3 partitions. >>3. ftp/http install >> >>One thing I notice, that the install reports the >>glibc-common rpm package as like 186,000KB but the >>actual rpm is only like 12MB. > > > The true nature of the error will be found in /root/install.log (boot > into rescue mode* when you reboot), or if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F4 > at the time of the failure, one of those may also have that > information. > > *Rescue mode: With the install CD in the drive, put "linux rescue" at > the boot prompt. Let it mount your (partial) install if it wants to, > at /mnt/sysimage, then > > cd /mnt/sysimage/root > cat install.log > > Use "exit" to reboot or re-attempt the install. Are you certain you have enough free space on the hard drive? The pre-install check isn't really complete. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Is that a buffer overflow or are you just happy to see me? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Wed Sep 15 02:35:40 2004 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:35:40 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: <41478995.4070107@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hello Rick On 14-Sep-04, you wrote: > I do have an AMD64. I can't recall which motherboard I used, however. > I think it's the ASUS K8T-VE, but I won't swear to it. Let me look when > I get home to verify it. I'm also using an ATI Radeon 9600SE video card > The FC2 driver for the on-board 10/100 Marvell card's driver was broken > (flooded the syslogs with a meaningless message), so I went with an > Intel PCI gigabit card. I understand the newer Marvell driver works > better but I haven't tried it. >From what I have seen in reviews I found today on the ASUS A8V board, the implementation of the Marvell onboard NIC is not so good. It even needs a new driver for windows users. I was hoping I could regain a PCI slot from a NIC by getting a mobo with one built in, maybe not. > I put 1GB of RAM on it and installed FC2 (64-bit) on it. All in all, > I've very happy (the bloody thing compiles code like a rocket!) I didn't know rockets had compilers... which one do they use?? LOL > Be warned: There are a number of Mozilla plugins that won't install on > the 64-bit platform (Macromedia FLASH, for example). They will work > fine if you fool the installer by poking stuff into /proc so it looks > like an Athlon or i686. A google search will reveal the method to use. Oooooo. Fun. Puts that in list of things to research. Thanks for the info. Regards, Bruce From hmann at itgroundwork.com Wed Sep 15 05:30:02 2004 From: hmann at itgroundwork.com (Harper Mann) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:30:02 -0700 Subject: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 In-Reply-To: <20040915042928.57055.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200409150530.i8F5U0IV007429@mx3.redhat.com> It sounds like a bad ISO burn. Try running the CD verification checks at the beginning of the install. Regards, - Harper Harper Mann Groundwork Open Source Solutions 510-599-2075 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Murle "Bubba" Meetze Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:29 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: Redhat 9 install, error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9 Ok, I also have tried Fedora Core 2 and I am seeing the same problem. I did the CNTL+ALT+F1 through F4 to get to a virtual console. I checked the install.log file and see the following error. Installing glibc-common-2.3.3-27.i386 error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/locale/da_DK.iso885915/LC_TYPE: 4147659c: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch I have looked online and tried once again a couple of things. Changed SDRAM, tried booting with linux ide=nodma. Still nothing. Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 09:25:03PM -0700, Murle Bubba Meetze wrote: > >>I am trying to install Redhat 9 on the following. >> >>AMD K6-2 400Mhz processor >>512 RAM >>don't know mother board info right now. >> >>I get the following error at the start of the packages >>install. >> >>------------------- >>Error installing package >> >>There was an error installing glibc-common-2.3.2-11.9. >> The can indicate media failure, lack of disk space, >>and/or hardware problems. The is a fatal error and >>your install will be aborted. Please verify your >>media and try your install again. >> >>Press the OK button to reboot your system. >>------------------- >> >>I have checked the media. I have tried various >>things: >> >>1. nodma noapic >>2. installing to ext2 instead of ext3 partitions. >>3. ftp/http install >> >>One thing I notice, that the install reports the >>glibc-common rpm package as like 186,000KB but the >>actual rpm is only like 12MB. > > > The true nature of the error will be found in /root/install.log (boot > into rescue mode* when you reboot), or if you Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F4 > at the time of the failure, one of those may also have that > information. > > *Rescue mode: With the install CD in the drive, put "linux rescue" at > the boot prompt. Let it mount your (partial) install if it wants to, > at /mnt/sysimage, then > > cd /mnt/sysimage/root > cat install.log > > Use "exit" to reboot or re-attempt the install. Are you certain you have enough free space on the hard drive? 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Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From egamez at bonheur.com.ph Wed Sep 15 07:17:57 2004 From: egamez at bonheur.com.ph (Toto Gamez) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:17:57 +0800 Subject: backup using tape drive References: <20040909013928.D24EB73A18@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <067601c49af4$201a9fd0$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph> Hi Im using RH9 on compaq proliant 1600 with 4/8 dat drive. how do I use my tape drive to backup using tar? what device do I have to use, Im kind a lost here, someone told me that tape drives are not usualy mounted like any harddisk. I tried to use "tar cvf /dev/rsa1/test.tat /etc" hoping that my scsi1 would be rsa1 just like from what I googled scsi0=rsa1, scsi1=rsa1 and also tried sda and sdb. I also found on googled to know if my tape drive realy installed issue: cat /proc/scsi/scsi output: Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00 Vendor: COMPAQ Model: SDT-7000 Rev: 3.04 Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 please advise Toto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naveen.guruprasad at hp.com Wed Sep 15 10:21:16 2004 From: naveen.guruprasad at hp.com (GURUPRASAD, NAVEEN) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:51:16 +0530 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files Message-ID: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> Dear All, Recently I migrated my comp to RedHat Linux 9.0, when tried to play a mp3 file, there is a message "License Issue". Can anyone advice me to fix this problem Naveen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Sep 15 14:59:29 2004 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.n et> References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <40121.207.173.117.242.1095260369.squirrel@207.173.117.242> > Recently I migrated my comp to RedHat Linux 9.0, when tried to play a > mp3 file, there is a message "License Issue". > Howdy Naveen, visit www.google.com and enter: xmms mp3 license You should find something about how xmms devel lost the lease for the codecs necessary to play mp3 files. it was part of some stupid lawsuit over copyright infringement, IIRC... You can download a version that will play mp3 files just fine. I however, use mplayer (formerly gmplayer) with a script that plays the files randomly. Sharing done via request. Karl From sarangi at bpost.kek.jp Wed Sep 15 15:07:37 2004 From: sarangi at bpost.kek.jp (Tapas Ranjan) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:07:37 +0900 (JST) Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 7, Issue 17 In-Reply-To: <20040915145944.24BCD736E1@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: It's better to remove the xmms version coming with the default Redhat version and try downloading other xmms rpm alongwith it's devel rpms and install that one. Don't forget to remove the ~user/.xmms, while testing the new install. ---Tapas >> Recently I migrated my comp to RedHat Linux 9.0, when tried to play a >> mp3 file, there is a message "License Issue". >> >Howdy Naveen, >visit www.google.com >and enter: >xmms mp3 license >You should find something about how xmms devel lost the lease for the >codecs necessary to play mp3 files. it was part of some stupid lawsuit >over copyright infringement, IIRC... > >You can download a version that will play mp3 files just fine. I however, >use mplayer (formerly gmplayer) with a script that plays the files >randomly. Sharing done via request. > >Karl From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Sep 15 15:38:18 2004 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: backup using tape drive In-Reply-To: <067601c49af4$201a9fd0$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph> References: <20040909013928.D24EB73A18@hormel.redhat.com> <067601c49af4$201a9fd0$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph> Message-ID: <30101.207.177.227.29.1095262698.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Topic drift here... I'm doing backups to a USB drive (currently on a Windows machine using Samba to get there). I'm tarring each directory off root (/var, /etc, /home, ...). Luckily, I have not had to restore from a backup yet. I'd like to do a "bare metal" backup so I can restore everything, including boot code, in one restore operation. I'm considering doing it with Norton Ghost, but would dd be able to do it? Any other suggestions? THANKS! Harold -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com From linuxr at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 17:29:22 2004 From: linuxr at gmail.com (linux r) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:29:22 -0400 Subject: backup using tape drive In-Reply-To: <30101.207.177.227.29.1095262698.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <20040909013928.D24EB73A18@hormel.redhat.com> <067601c49af4$201a9fd0$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph> <30101.207.177.227.29.1095262698.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: I guess the big questions would involve: 1) how much data we are talking about, and 2) whether you would rather copy/restore the whole *&() drive each time, or if it is a once-a-year sort of thing. I work with a systems admin who ghosts everything, all the time, every day. It is a little too much of a crutch in his case, but that is differrent. >>I'm tarring each directory off root (/var, /etc, /home, ...). Curious, why are you doing this? Your data will only likely be in a few directories (/home and whatever other few directories you put apps in or whatever). If you partition well, you can set it up so that you could, in the event of failure or running out of disk space -- recreate a new partition on the fly with fdisk or something similar. A lot of those directories aren't going anywhere, and even if they did, they would reappear exactly the same. IOW, you can partition with the full understanding that if there is ever a problem, you could do a restore/partial install and fix the thing. All the while your *real* data is on another parttion. Linux's fdisk is smart enough to give you the option of what to keep and what to blow away at install/repair time. >>Luckily, I have not had to restore from a backup yet. I'd like to do a "bare metal" backup so I can restore everything, including boot code, in one restore operation. I'm considering doing it with Norton Ghost, but would dd be able to do it? DD will do a bit-by-bit copy of anything anywhere (floppy, hard drive etc) to anywhere else in a *nix environment. Keep in mind that while it is a powerful command, it is still only a command -- not a full fledged backup utility. Even small hard drives add up to a lot of bits, especially when you are copying it in a linear fashion! Nonetheless you could try # dd if=/ of=/dev/hdd (assuming d is your target location drive) I would be curious to know how long it takes to do a decent sized drive. With a really big drive it might take awhile however - a pretty serious drawback if you are going to be doing this really often. >>Any other suggestions? After you have determined the true amount of data that you need to backup, you might consider burning cd's of certain directories. Consider it a 'snapshot' of ongoing data, write a date on the disk and forget about it. If you need to do a restore, just throw in the cd and mount it and copy whatever you need. This way you seperate your operating system files from your data. If you really need an app, you might check freshmeat and other linux sites to see if there is an open source app that will do it. Not sure how samba figures in, whether that will be a problem or not but my hunch is that it probably isn't a problem (although it probably IS, if you go buy a windows backup app). I have heard of 'amanda', but I haven't used it to know if it's any good. I understand that it will do regularly scheduled backups and restores etc. Maybe someone else can jump in at this point.... Thanks for reading Hope that helps On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:38:18 -0700 (PDT), Harold Hallikainen wrote: > Topic drift here... I'm doing backups to a USB drive (currently on a > Windows machine using Samba to get there). I'm tarring each directory off > root (/var, /etc, /home, ...). Luckily, I have not had to restore from a > backup yet. I'd like to do a "bare metal" backup so I can restore > everything, including boot code, in one restore operation. I'm considering > doing it with Norton Ghost, but would dd be able to do it? Any other > suggestions? > > THANKS! > > Harold > > -- > FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 15 18:39:47 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:39:47 -0700 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41488C73.3080000@vitalstream.com> Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello Rick > > On 14-Sep-04, you wrote: > > > >>I do have an AMD64. I can't recall which motherboard I used, however. >>I think it's the ASUS K8T-VE, but I won't swear to it. Let me look when >>I get home to verify it. I'm also using an ATI Radeon 9600SE video card >>The FC2 driver for the on-board 10/100 Marvell card's driver was broken >>(flooded the syslogs with a meaningless message), so I went with an >>Intel PCI gigabit card. I understand the newer Marvell driver works >>better but I haven't tried it. > > >>From what I have seen in reviews I found today on the ASUS A8V board, the > implementation of the Marvell onboard NIC is not so good. It even needs a > new driver for windows users. > I was hoping I could regain a PCI slot from a NIC by getting a mobo with one > built in, maybe not. The problem is that the card can't find an identifier in one of its chips. The new driver is supposed to ignore that missing bit. >>I put 1GB of RAM on it and installed FC2 (64-bit) on it. All in all, >>I've very happy (the bloody thing compiles code like a rocket!) > > > I didn't know rockets had compilers... which one do they use?? LOL gcc-saturnV, which replaces gcc-atlas. :-p Heheheheh! >>Be warned: There are a number of Mozilla plugins that won't install on >>the 64-bit platform (Macromedia FLASH, for example). They will work >>fine if you fool the installer by poking stuff into /proc so it looks >>like an Athlon or i686. A google search will reveal the method to use. > > > Oooooo. Fun. > Puts that in list of things to research. It's kinda silly. Macromedia should change their installer, since an x86-64 (the identifier for the AMD64) will happily run the code. Grrrr! > Thanks for the info. You're welcome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A squeegee, by any other name, wouldn't sound as funny. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 15 18:46:29 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:46:29 -0700 Subject: backup using tape drive In-Reply-To: <067601c49af4$201a9fd0$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph> References: <20040909013928.D24EB73A18@hormel.redhat.com> <067601c49af4$201a9fd0$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph> Message-ID: <41488E05.6030606@vitalstream.com> Toto Gamez wrote: > Hi > Im using RH9 on compaq proliant 1600 with 4/8 dat drive. how do I use my > tape drive to backup using tar? what device do I have to use, Im kind a > lost here, someone told me that tape drives are not usualy mounted like > any harddisk. I tried to use "tar cvf /dev/rsa1/test.tat /etc" hoping > that my scsi1 would be rsa1 just like from what I googled scsi0=rsa1, > scsi1=rsa1 and also tried sda and sdb. I also found on googled to know > if my tape drive realy installed issue: > cat /proc/scsi/scsi > > output: > Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00 > Vendor: COMPAQ Model: SDT-7000 Rev: 3.04 > Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > please advise Your tape drive will be identified as /dev/st0 normally. You can check by doing: # mt -f /dev/st0 status That should return the current status of the drive. My HP 4GB DAT shows up like this: [root at prophead root]# mt -f /dev/st0 status SCSI 2 tape drive: File number=-1, block number=-1, partition=0. Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x0 (default). Soft error count since last status=0 General status bits on (50000): DR_OPEN IM_REP_EN Now, as to using tar: tar to tape works, but it's pretty dumb. The simplest form is: # cd /some/directory # tar cfpv /dev/st0 * with /dev/st0 being the tape drive. I'd highly recommend you use Amanda (comes with RH9) to do your backups. It's a fully functional backup system and can save you worlds of grief with backups and restores. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 15 18:49:32 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:49:32 -0700 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> GURUPRASAD, NAVEEN wrote: > Dear All, > > Recently I migrated my comp to RedHat Linux 9.0, when tried to play a > mp3 file, there is a message "License Issue". > > Can anyone advice me to fix this problem There was a copyright infringement lawsuit over this, so RedHat stopped sending MP3-enabled xmms stuff. If you want to risk it, you can get the codec and such from: http://havardk.xmms.org/dist/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rh9-rpm/ By the way, there is no such animal as Red Hat Linux 9.0. It is RedHat Linux 9 (no ".0"). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "If you can't fix it...duct tape it!" - Tim Allen - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From b06gtp at FDS.com Wed Sep 15 20:02:51 2004 From: b06gtp at FDS.com (Gene Poole) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:02:51 -0400 Subject: Gene Poole/FSG/FDS is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 09/14/2004 and will not return until 09/19/2004. I am away at WebSphere training starting 09/14/2004 and I will not return until 09/20/2004 - see you then! From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Sep 15 20:12:46 2004 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 13:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: backup using USB hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <20040909013928.D24EB73A18@hormel.redhat.com><067601c49af4$201a9fd0$0b65a8c0@netctr.bonheur.com.ph><30101.207.177.227.29.1095262698.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <33181.207.177.227.29.1095279166.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> > I guess the big questions would involve: > > 1) how much data we are talking about, and > Right now the whole system is about 40 gigs. > 2) whether you would rather copy/restore the whole *&() drive each time, or if it is a once-a-year sort of thing. I work with a systems admin who ghosts everything, all the time, every day. It is a little too much of a crutch in his case, but that is differrent. I'm currently generating a tar of each directory (as below) once a week. This involves no down time. If I use Norton Ghost to make a backup, the system will be down during the backup. Using dd, it would not, but I might have problems with stuff changing during the backup. Not sure how much of a problem that is. >>>I'm tarring each directory off root (/var, /etc, /home, ...). > > Curious, why are you doing this? Your data will only likely be in a few directories (/home and whatever other few directories you put apps in or whatever). If you partition well, you can set it up so that you could, in the event of failure or running out of disk space -- > recreate a new partition on the fly with fdisk or something similar. A lot of those directories aren't going anywhere, and even if they did, they would reappear exactly the same. IOW, you can partition with the full understanding that if there is ever a problem, you could do a restore/partial install and fix the thing. All the while your *real* data is on another parttion. Linux's fdisk is smart enough to give you the option of what to keep and what to blow away at > install/repair time. > I'm tarring everything because I don't really know where aps hide everything (code, config files, etc.). So, I'm just making sure. The drive I'm backing up to is 120 gigs, and I have two of them that I swap between. > >>>Luckily, I have not had to restore from a backup yet. I'd like to do > a "bare metal" backup so I can restore everything, including boot code, in one restore operation. I'm considering > doing it with Norton Ghost, but would dd be able to do it? > > DD will do a bit-by-bit copy of anything anywhere (floppy, hard drive etc) to anywhere else in a *nix environment. Keep in mind that while it is a powerful command, it is still only a command -- not a full fledged backup utility. Even small hard drives add up to a lot of bits, especially when you are copying it in a linear fashion! > > Nonetheless you could try > > # dd if=/ of=/dev/hdd (assuming d is your target location drive) > > I would be curious to know how long it takes to do a decent sized drive. With a really big drive it might take awhile however - a pretty serious drawback if you are going to be doing this really often. > >>>Any other suggestions? > > After you have determined the true amount of data that you need to backup, you might consider burning cd's of certain directories. > Consider it a 'snapshot' of ongoing data, write a date on the disk and forget about it. If you need to do a restore, just throw in the cd and mount it and copy whatever you need. This way you seperate your operating system files from your data. > Thanks for the comments! I'll try to find the time to give some of this a try! Harold -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com From csu4 at fedex.com Thu Sep 16 08:21:05 2004 From: csu4 at fedex.com (csu4 at fedex.com) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:21:05 +0800 Subject: up2date --register showed wrong version info Message-ID: Hi there, I have one RHEL3AS server needed to run up2date (4.2.38-1). But I got the following error message: Invalid Architecture and OS combination (3, i686-redhat-linux).... I knew that someone has encountered the similar cases and more or less found the way to resolve it. But none of them is the same as mine. By right, the version should be "3AS, i686-redhat-linux", somehow the up2date collected wrong info. As the result, my box is registered but with no detail listed and no channels able to be subscribed in the rhn.redhat.com. This has nothing to do with my RHN account and entitlement. My question is, where does "up2date --register" or "rhn_register" collect the info from? My /etc/redhat-release shows "Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon Update 2)", which is correct as I installed OS from a U2 ISO CD-ROM. My "uname -a" shows "Linux hostname 2.4.21-15.0.4.ELsmp #1 SMP Sat Jul 31 01:25:25 EDT 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux", which is supposed to be right, compared with my another testing box which is running fine with the up2date. How can I "cheat" the up2date in this case? Or which system file or parameters to set to right version info? Or is there any way to work around instead of reinstall from scratch? Thx & Rgds, Chang Hong From sg at pobox.com Thu Sep 16 10:50:26 2004 From: sg at pobox.com (sg at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:20:26 +0530 Subject: Gnome-Terminal In-Reply-To: <40E58EB9.4090000@vitalstream.com> References: <1088776367.2525.4.camel@heart> <20040702161814.GB25987@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <40E58EB9.4090000@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200409161620.26500.sg@pobox.com> Sir, I have RedHat Linux 9.0 and i have two user saroj and sarojm when user sarojm run gnome-terminal it will run without problem but when user saroj run gnome-terminal then it will display warning owner of /tmp/orbit-sarojm is not current user. Rajeev. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 16 16:23:30 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:23:30 -0700 Subject: Gnome-Terminal In-Reply-To: <200409161620.26500.sg@pobox.com> References: <1088776367.2525.4.camel@heart> <20040702161814.GB25987@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <40E58EB9.4090000@vitalstream.com> <200409161620.26500.sg@pobox.com> Message-ID: <4149BE02.7070002@vitalstream.com> sg at pobox.com wrote: > Sir, > > I have RedHat Linux 9.0 and i have two user saroj and sarojm > when user sarojm run gnome-terminal it will run without problem but when user > saroj run gnome-terminal then it will display warning owner of > /tmp/orbit-sarojm is not current user. Is the GUI user sarojm? If so, how are you starting gnome-terminal as user saroj? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Hello. My PID is Inigo Montoya. You `kill -9'-ed my parent - - process. Prepare to vi." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gerrynix at yahoo.com Thu Sep 16 20:06:13 2004 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fetchmail 6 question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040916200613.30165.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> Hello all, I'm attempting to resolve a fetch prob (someone else's box). It appears the config files are OK. Manual polls work fine... Mail lands in the correct boxes. However, automatic polling doesn't seem to be working. The thing is running in daemon mode as below. root 14355 1 0 14:25 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 60 -a -f / etc/fetchmailrc -L /var/log/fetchmail The logfile confirms the 60 second poll and is error free. fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:55:09 2004 fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:56:09 2004 fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:56:12 2004 fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:57:12 2004 fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:57:15 2004 and on and on, but no exchange... of course there is mail waiting :-) What am I not seeing? -- MTIA Nix From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 16 20:43:35 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:43:35 -0700 Subject: Fetchmail 6 question In-Reply-To: <20040916200613.30165.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040916200613.30165.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4149FAF7.2080401@vitalstream.com> gerrynix wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm attempting to resolve a fetch prob (someone else's box). > > It appears the config files are OK. Manual polls work > fine... Mail lands in the correct boxes. However, automatic > polling doesn't seem to be working. The thing is running > in daemon mode as below. > > root 14355 1 0 14:25 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 60 -a -f / > etc/fetchmailrc -L /var/log/fetchmail > > The logfile confirms the 60 second poll and is error free. > fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:55:09 2004 > fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:56:09 2004 > fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:56:12 2004 > fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:57:12 2004 > fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:57:15 2004 > > and on and on, but no exchange... of course there is mail > waiting :-) > > What am I not seeing? Without seeing the fetchmailrc, we can't tell. As it is shown (and unless there's "user so-and-so here" clauses in the fetchmailrc), the daemon will try to fetch mail for the root user only. If you want it to fetch mail for all users, then you must have "user blah here" clauses to set the user names it's supposed to fetch mail for. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "I was remembering the immortal words of Socrates when he said, - - 'I drank what?'" -- Val Kilmer in "Real Genius" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gerrynix at yahoo.com Thu Sep 16 21:17:04 2004 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fetchmail 6 question In-Reply-To: <4149FAF7.2080401@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> --- Rick Stevens wrote: > gerrynix wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I'm attempting to resolve a fetch prob (someone else's box). > > > > It appears the config files are OK. Manual polls work > > fine... Mail lands in the correct boxes. However, automatic > > polling doesn't seem to be working. The thing is running > > in daemon mode as below. > > > > root 14355 1 0 14:25 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 60 -a -f / > > etc/fetchmailrc -L /var/log/fetchmail > > > > The logfile confirms the 60 second poll and is error free. > > fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:55:09 2004 > > fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:56:09 2004 > > fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:56:12 2004 > > fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:57:12 2004 > > fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:57:15 2004 > > > > and on and on, but no exchange... of course there is mail > > waiting :-) > > > > What am I not seeing? > > Without seeing the fetchmailrc, we can't tell. As it is shown (and > unless there's "user so-and-so here" clauses in the fetchmailrc), > the > daemon will try to fetch mail for the root user only. If you want > it to > fetch mail for all users, then you must have "user blah here" > clauses to > set the user names it's supposed to fetch mail for. This is the /etc/fetchmailrc... but doesn't the manual poll look here as well by default? Manual (server) polls work fine. It is absolutely determined that the address is correct. poll "adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net" protocol POP3 : user "ron" there with password "******" is "ron" here ; (no CRs and password is clear text and confirmed) This is an example of an existing ~/.fetchmailrc perms are 600 poll xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (as above) proto pop3 user "ron" pass "*******" (really clear text) is rone keep fetchall -- Many thanks again > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer > rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. > http://www.vitalstream.com - > - > - > - "I was remembering the immortal words of Socrates when he said, > - > - 'I drank what?'" -- Val Kilmer in "Real Genius" > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From bramblet at fuller.com Thu Sep 16 21:21:25 2004 From: bramblet at fuller.com (Ron Bramblett) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:21:25 -0500 Subject: Create custom bootable CD Message-ID: <200409161621.25126.bramblet@fuller.com> Hello, I need to create a custom bootable cd so that I can either use a network or a USB device to restore some data. I have small office that is using win98SE and am backing up everything across the network to a external USB hard drive. I am having problems with a restore procedure incase something happens. I basically need to create a bootable device that will then search the either the external hard drive or network to restore the data back. Any ideas will be appreciated. -- Ron Bramblett Fuller Brush Company Systems Adminstrator Almost 100 years strong and still going ... From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Sep 16 22:32:02 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:32:02 -0700 Subject: Create custom bootable CD Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9C9@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Bramblett [mailto:bramblet at fuller.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 2:21 PM > To: Red Hat Linux > Subject: Create custom bootable CD > > Hello, > I need to create a custom bootable cd so that I can either > use a network or a USB device to restore some data. > > I have small office that is using win98SE and am backing up > everything across the network to a external USB hard drive. > > I am having problems with a restore procedure incase > something happens. > > I basically need to create a bootable device that will then > search the either the external hard drive or network to > restore the data back. > > Any ideas will be appreciated. > > -- > Ron Bramblett > Fuller Brush Company > Systems Adminstrator www.knoppix.org is one option for an already built one that will probably work. But I don't get what your problem would be. Reload the OS on the computer and copy everything back you need. Because unless you are using Ghost, Drive Image or DD to create image backups of the computers, you aren't gaining anything from the approach your taking. Btw - Hard Drives are NOT backup devices. There are only two types, the ones that have failed and the ones that will. Is your data worth a tape drive and some tapes? I know of NO business where it isn't. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 16 22:42:42 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:42:42 -0700 Subject: Fetchmail 6 question In-Reply-To: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> gerrynix wrote: > --- Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>gerrynix wrote: >> >>>Hello all, >>> >>>I'm attempting to resolve a fetch prob (someone else's box). >>> >>>It appears the config files are OK. Manual polls work >>>fine... Mail lands in the correct boxes. However, automatic >>>polling doesn't seem to be working. The thing is running >>>in daemon mode as below. >>> >>>root 14355 1 0 14:25 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 60 -a -f / >>>etc/fetchmailrc -L /var/log/fetchmail >>> >>>The logfile confirms the 60 second poll and is error free. >>>fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:55:09 2004 >>>fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:56:09 2004 >>>fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:56:12 2004 >>>fetchmail: awakened at Thu Sep 16 14:57:12 2004 >>>fetchmail: sleeping at Thu Sep 16 14:57:15 2004 >>> >>>and on and on, but no exchange... of course there is mail >>>waiting :-) >>> >>>What am I not seeing? >> >>Without seeing the fetchmailrc, we can't tell. As it is shown (and >>unless there's "user so-and-so here" clauses in the fetchmailrc), >>the >>daemon will try to fetch mail for the root user only. If you want >>it to >>fetch mail for all users, then you must have "user blah here" >>clauses to >>set the user names it's supposed to fetch mail for. > > > This is the /etc/fetchmailrc... but doesn't the manual > poll look here as well by default? Manual (server) polls > work fine. It is absolutely determined that the address > is correct. > > poll "adsl-xx-xx-xx-xx.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net" protocol POP3 : user > "ron" there with password "******" is "ron" here ; > (no CRs and password is clear text and confirmed) > > This is an example of an existing ~/.fetchmailrc > perms are 600 > > poll xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (as above) > proto pop3 > user "ron" > pass "*******" (really clear text) > is rone ^^^^ > keep > fetchall If the stuff I underlined above is actually in the fetchmailrc, then the system is trying to download mail for a local user named "rone". Your manual run was as user "ron" so that who it used and it worked. I suspect you don't have a user named "rone". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The light at the end of the tunnel is really an oncoming train. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From redhat at scattered.com.au Fri Sep 17 00:27:33 2004 From: redhat at scattered.com.au (David Watson) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:27:33 +1000 Subject: Redhat EL 3 install, SATA RAID problems Message-ID: <200409170026.i8H0QROo001144@mx3.redhat.com> Hi, I'm having problems with the install of RedHat Enterprise Linux. I downloaded the easy ISO "RedHat Enterprise Linux 3ES (i386) Update 3" from the Redhat site which came with the 2.4.21-20 kernel. When trying to install this on my Supermicro SuperServer 6013A-T http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6013/SYS-6013A-T.cfm, I found that only the 2.4.21-4 kernel is supported. As noted in the Supermicro FAQs, only 2.4.21-4 is supported. http://www.supermicro.com/support/faqs/faq.cfm?faq=1710 I have contacted Supermicro and they do not have a driver for 2.4.21-20. After some back and forwarding between Redhat support and Supermicro, I have established that they are waiting on an update from Adaptec (the maker of the onboard SATA HostRAID chip) which they have no ETA for. So the problem as I understand it is that I cannot install an rpm for the kernel 2.4.21-4 as this does not have SATA support. The error I get is that it cannot find the aarich module. And I cannot install the aarich rpm as only kernel 2.4.21-4 is supported. The perfect solution would be to find a RedHat Enterprise Linux 3ES release which has the 2.4.21-4 kernel in it, I'm waiting on Redhat support at the moment to confirm which kernels the previous release had in them. Anyone have any other ideas on how to tackle this problem, any help would be very much apprectiated? Kind regards, David Watson From nofri at luk.or.id Fri Sep 17 00:00:20 2004 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:00:20 GMT Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Hi all, I've tried dial up connection with wvdial. But it was connected and direct disconnected. Exit status = 10 It means: The PPP negotiation failed, that is, it didnot reach the point where at least one network protocol (e.g. IP) was running. With ifconfig, i've received only eth0 and lo without ppp0. Could someone tell me how to bring up the ppp0? Thanks in advance *nofri* From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 17 00:48:57 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:48:57 -0700 Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > Hi all, > I've tried dial up connection with wvdial. But it was connected and > direct disconnected. > Exit status = 10 > It means: > The PPP negotiation failed, that is, it didnot reach the point > where at least one network protocol (e.g. IP) was running. > With ifconfig, i've received only eth0 and lo without ppp0. > Could someone tell me how to bring up the ppp0? Are you certain your system supports your modem? If you have a "winmodem", the odds are great that it flat won't work. You have to make sure you have a driver that supports your modem. If minicom can't access the modem, then wvdial can't either. My suggestion: spend the $50 and buy a REAL modem. You know...the kind that plugs into a serial port. Winmodems are bloody evil beasts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Cuteness can be overcome through sufficient bastardry - - --Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From nofri at luk.or.id Fri Sep 17 02:17:47 2004 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 02:17:47 GMT Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20040917021747.32041.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Hi Rick, Thanks for Your attention. I use the US Robotic 56K Faxmodem. What could you please tell me what i have to do with IP address and /etc/resolve.conf? Rick Stevens writes: > Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: >> Hi all, >> I've tried dial up connection with wvdial. But it was connected and >> direct disconnected. >> Exit status = 10 >> It means: >> The PPP negotiation failed, that is, it didnot reach the point >> where at least one network protocol (e.g. IP) was running. >> With ifconfig, i've received only eth0 and lo without ppp0. >> Could someone tell me how to bring up the ppp0? > > Are you certain your system supports your modem? If you have a > "winmodem", the odds are great that it flat won't work. You have to > make sure you have a driver that supports your modem. If minicom > can't access the modem, then wvdial can't either. > > My suggestion: spend the $50 and buy a REAL modem. You know...the kind > that plugs into a serial port. Winmodems are bloody evil beasts. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Cuteness can be overcome through sufficient bastardry - > - --Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sg at pobox.com Fri Sep 17 04:25:24 2004 From: sg at pobox.com (sg at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:55:24 +0530 Subject: Gnome-Terminal In-Reply-To: <4149BE02.7070002@vitalstream.com> References: <1088776367.2525.4.camel@heart> <200409161620.26500.sg@pobox.com> <4149BE02.7070002@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200409170955.24878.sg@pobox.com> On Thursday 16 September 2004 21:53, Rick Stevens wrote: > sg at pobox.com wrote: > > Sir, > > > > I have RedHat Linux 9.0 and i have two user saroj and sarojm > > when user sarojm run gnome-terminal it will run without problem but when > > user saroj run gnome-terminal then it will display warning owner of > > /tmp/orbit-sarojm is not current user. > > Is the GUI user sarojm? If so, how are you starting gnome-terminal as > user saroj? I have create shortcut for both user because we have a program which is run in gnome-terminal and the shortcut file exist in saroj and sarojm home directory and contents of this file is gnome-terminal --geometry=80x25 --command=overseas --title=Overseas here overseas is a program and this program required 25 row thats why i have use geometry because by default gnome-terminal run in 24 row when user sarojm run this shortcut then it will not create any problem bust when user saroj run this shortcut then it will display above mention werning message. Rajeev. From livelinux at nwst.de Fri Sep 17 05:51:22 2004 From: livelinux at nwst.de (Dirk Westfal) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:51:22 +0200 Subject: Create custom bootable CD In-Reply-To: <200409161621.25126.bramblet@fuller.com> References: <200409161621.25126.bramblet@fuller.com> Message-ID: <200409170751.22195.livelinux@nwst.de> On Thursday 16 September 2004 23:21, Ron Bramblett wrote: > Hello, > I need to create a custom bootable cd so that I can either use a network or > a USB device to restore some data. ... > I basically need to create a bootable device that will then search the > either the external hard drive or network to restore the data back. > > Any ideas will be appreciated. Hi, perhaps you find these usefull: Option 1: fedora core 2 based livecd with gui : http://www.linux4all.de/livecd/basilisk/1.3/index.htm Option 2: fedora core 2 based livecd template without gui: http://www.linux4all.de/livecd/barebone/index.htm It`s not yet as 'advanced' as knoppix but does the job. Best Regards, Dirk Westfal -- http://www.linux4all.de/livecd From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 17 18:26:41 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:26:41 -0700 Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <20040917021747.32041.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> <20040917021747.32041.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <414B2C61.5040302@vitalstream.com> Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > Hi Rick, > Thanks for Your attention. > I use the US Robotic 56K Faxmodem. > What could you please tell me what i have to do with IP address and > /etc/resolve.conf? If you use DHCP, your machine's DHCP client will ask the ISP for your IP address, netmask, DNS servers, and your gateway. It should then modify /etc/resolv.conf to reflect the DNS servers given and set your IP, netmask and route automatically. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Swap memory error: You lose your mind" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mezitli at mindspring.com Fri Sep 17 18:58:56 2004 From: mezitli at mindspring.com (J. Refugio Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:58:56 -0700 Subject: Need Help Installing RH8 on Laptop Message-ID: <414B33F0.9080709@mindspring.com> Good morning! I have an IBM T40 laptop and experienced the same problem as the user referenced above. I resolved the problem by downloading a newer kernel rpm from: ftp://mirror.stanford.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/updates/1/i386/ Download the appropriate kernel rpm, depending on the CPU that the user has, athlon, i586, or i686. kernel-2.4.22-1.2199.nptl.athlon.rpm kernel-2.4.22-1.2199.nptl.i586.rpm kernel-2.4.22-1.2199.nptl.i686.rpm I downloaded APPLICABLE file to a fat32 partition since in rescue mode HPFS, or NTFS were not able to mount (I use mostly OS/2's HPFS file system). Although, more knowledgeable users might patch the kernel, I found it easier to replace it at once and find out if it was the solution to my Red Hat Fedora partition not booting. After using the installation CD to boot in rescue mode by typing: linux rescue, I ended up in a command prompt after some initial language dialogs. Subsequently I typed: chroot /mnt/sysimage and proceeded to mount the fat32 partition that contained the downloaded rpm: mnt -t vfat /dev/hd? /mnt/hd? where the ? specifies what partition a user is mounting after making the desired direcory under /mnt. I proceed to bring over the kernel RPM to my Linux /tmp partition. I typed the following to replace the kenel module and update the grub configuration file at the same time: rpm -Uvh --nodeps kernel-2.4.22-1.2199.nptl.i686.rpm The --nodeps option ignored 5 or 6 dependency nags and installed the newer kernel in my machine. For the user, please replace the specific CPU string (686) in the example above. My Red Hat 8.0 Fedora has no problems booting now--the dependency nags can be fixed afterwards. From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Fri Sep 17 22:28:09 2004 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:28:09 +0300 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> Hi , Rick Stevens wrote: > GURUPRASAD, NAVEEN wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Recently I migrated my comp to RedHat Linux 9.0, when tried to play a >> mp3 file, there is a message "License Issue". >> >> Can anyone advice me to fix this problem Sorry , you can't fix License Issues . It is not a problem for you to resolve , others have to deal with Licences . Meanwhile though you can just go to http://www.xmms.org/download.php , get the source of the xmms 1.2.10 , compile it and go on with it . > There was a copyright infringement lawsuit over this, so RedHat stopped > sending MP3-enabled xmms stuff. > > If you want to risk it, you can get the codec and such from: > > http://havardk.xmms.org/dist/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rh9-rpm/ > > By the way, there is no such animal as Red Hat Linux 9.0. It is > RedHat Linux 9 (no ".0"). Rick , if i recall well you have said that before and it is Suse Linux 9.0 and Redhat Linux 9 , it is just a difference in the trademarks stuff . Kind Regards, Kostas From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Sep 17 22:41:59 2004 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:41:59 -0400 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr>; from kostassf@cha.forthnet.gr on Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 01:28:09AM +0300 References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <20040917184159.A16560@redline.comcast.net> On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 01:28:09AM +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > By the way, there is no such animal as Red Hat Linux 9.0. It is > > RedHat Linux 9 (no ".0"). > > Rick , if i recall well you have said that before and it is > Suse Linux 9.0 and Redhat Linux 9 , it is just a difference > in the trademarks stuff . Like the badging difference between A Chevy and Buick in the 1970's? No. Firstly, There is no content/feature correlation between RH 9 and Suse 9.0. Secondly, RH made a distinct decision to use the "9" with no decimal point to indicate that there would be NO point release for "RH 9", ever, end of story. This marked the beginning of RedHat's new sales models starting with the new enterprise products and the "end" of desktop products. (of course it turned out it wasn't the end, was it. :-) ) -- Linux/Open Source. Now all your base belongs to you, for free. ============================================================ Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Fri Sep 17 23:04:59 2004 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:04:59 +0300 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <20040917184159.A16560@redline.comcast.net> References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> <20040917184159.A16560@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <414B6D9B.2060809@cha.forthnet.gr> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 01:28:09AM +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > >>Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>>By the way, there is no such animal as Red Hat Linux 9.0. It is >>>RedHat Linux 9 (no ".0"). >> >>Rick , if i recall well you have said that before and it is >>Suse Linux 9.0 and Redhat Linux 9 , it is just a difference >>in the trademarks stuff . > > > Like the badging difference between A Chevy and Buick in the 1970's? Aren't those car models ? > No. > Firstly, There is no content/feature correlation between RH 9 and > Suse 9.0. > > Secondly, RH made a distinct decision to use the "9" with no decimal > point to indicate that there would be NO point release for "RH 9", > ever, end of story. The last point release , whatever that means, was Valhalla Redhat 7.3 i think This marked the beginning of RedHat's new sales > models starting with the new enterprise products and the "end" of > desktop products. Totaly clueless about sales models and such stuff . > (of course it turned out it wasn't the end, was it. :-) ) O.K. Thank's for the correction Jeff . Kind Regards, Kostas From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Sep 17 23:42:36 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:42:36 -0700 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <414B6D9B.2060809@cha.forthnet.gr> References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> <20040917184159.A16560@redline.comcast.net> <414B6D9B.2060809@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <414B766C.7000902@vitalstream.com> Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Jeff Kinz wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 01:28:09AM +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: >> >>> Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>>> By the way, there is no such animal as Red Hat Linux 9.0. It is >>>> RedHat Linux 9 (no ".0"). >>> >>> >>> Rick , if i recall well you have said that before and it is >>> Suse Linux 9.0 and Redhat Linux 9 , it is just a difference >>> in the trademarks stuff . >> >> >> >> Like the badging difference between A Chevy and Buick in the 1970's? > > > Aren't those car models ? Actually, in the 70s throught the 90s, most General Motors products were rebadges of the same car with Chevy and Buick bearing the most simularities. Ford does the same thing between the Ford and Mercury product lines. And, of course, Chrysler had the spectacularly ugly "K" cars in the late 70s which they shared among Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth. GAWD they were homely! Yeeeech! >> No. >> Firstly, There is no content/feature correlation between RH 9 and Suse >> 9.0. >> >> Secondly, RH made a distinct decision to use the "9" with no decimal >> point to indicate that there would be NO point release for "RH 9", >> ever, end of story. > > > The last point release , whatever that means, was > Valhalla Redhat 7.3 i think No. The last "point" releases were 8.0 for the desktop (called "psyche") and ES and AS 2.1 (based on Red Hat Linux 7.2 and called "pensacola"). > This marked the beginning of RedHat's new sales > >> models starting with the new enterprise products and the "end" of >> desktop products. > > > Totaly clueless about sales models and such stuff . They don't release "free" workstation or server products under the Red Hat name any longer. The server products are AS3 (advanced server, up to 8 processors), ES3 (enhanced server, up to two processors), and EWS3 (enhanced workstation, up to two processors). ES and AS are called "taroon," I'm not sure what EWS3 is called. Most likely it's also "taroon," since it's the same code base. All free Red Hat products are now the Fedora Core products. FC1 was originally going to be Red Hat Linux 10. Proven Fedora stuff will be rolled into the commercial products as time rolls on. We Fedora users are essentially experimental hamsters. That's OK, FC1 and FC2 work quite well. FC1 is called "yarrow" and FC2 is called "tettnang". >> (of course it turned out it wasn't the end, was it. :-) ) > > > O.K. Thank's for the correction Jeff . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Memory is the second thing to go, but I can't remember the first! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Sep 17 23:52:38 2004 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:52:38 -0400 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <414B6D9B.2060809@cha.forthnet.gr>; from kostassf@cha.forthnet.gr on Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 02:04:59AM +0300 References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> <20040917184159.A16560@redline.comcast.net> <414B6D9B.2060809@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <20040917195238.A16864@redline.comcast.net> On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 02:04:59AM +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Jeff Kinz wrote: > > Like the badging difference between A Chevy and Buick in the 1970's? > > Aren't those car models ? No - they are car "brands". Chevrolet and Buick were each seperate automobile companies until they were rolled up into the "General Motors" (GM), conglomerate. After the rollup GM tried to keep the "Brand" identities seperate by using 'Badge Engineering" = that is selling the same car as different models under each marque (brand) by changing the trim and decals(badges). So you could buy the same car from two or three different "companies" and pay more for it each time you moved "up" to a "Higher status" brand. (Of course this is all gross over-simplificationi, its much more complex than this description, options, marketing etc..) What does this have to do with Linux ? ummm, err.... Maybe GM will use RTLinux in its on board systems someday? If they aren't already, that is... (Ok, that was a bit of a reach wasn't it? :-) ) -- Linux/Open Source. Now all your base belongs to you, for free. ============================================================ Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From pool at utilika.org Sat Sep 18 02:09:33 2004 From: pool at utilika.org (Jonathan Pool) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:09:33 -0700 Subject: Package Management Tool doesn't recognize CD-ROM Message-ID: After installing RHEL AS 3 on a system with an ECS Elitegroup K7S5A Pro mainboard with an AMD Athlon XP 1500+ CPU and an Ultima Electronics DHM-G48 DVD-ROM drive, I decided to add some packages to the installation and ran the Package Management Tool (redhat-config-packages) from an xterm window. The tool behaved as I would expect until it finished obtaining my package additions, and then it said: "Red Hat Enterprise 3 Linux" disk 2 needed to install packages. Insert the disk and press OK. I did that, and immediately after I pressed OK I got another copy of that same message, and this continued indefinitely. Each press on OK would start the CD-ROM drive spinning for a few seconds, but the window would never get dismissed. Experimentation revealed that, while this message awaited my OK, I could go to another terminal window and mount, read, and unmount the CD-ROM (as /mnt/cdrom, where /dev/cdrom is mounted per /etc/fstab), but if I pressed the PMT's OK button after mounting the CD-ROM with "mount" then I could no longer unmount it with "umount", instead getting an error message saying it wasn't mounted. Thus, it looked as if PMT's OK button unmounted the CD-ROM if already mounted. I have searched the KB and forums for prior reports of this problem and found a few, but their resolutions don't seem to apply here. From nofri at luk.or.id Sat Sep 18 03:18:31 2004 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:18:31 GMT Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <414B2C61.5040302@vitalstream.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> <20040917021747.32041.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414B2C61.5040302@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20040918031831.31747.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Hi Rick, do i have to use DHCP, if i want to directly dial up to ISP? How could i use DHCP? Thanks very much in advance *nofri* Rick Stevens writes: > Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: >> Hi Rick, >> Thanks for Your attention. >> I use the US Robotic 56K Faxmodem. >> What could you please tell me what i have to do with IP address and >> /etc/resolve.conf? > > If you use DHCP, your machine's DHCP client will ask the ISP for your > IP address, netmask, DNS servers, and your gateway. It should then > modify /etc/resolv.conf to reflect the DNS servers given and set your > IP, netmask and route automatically. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "Swap memory error: You lose your mind" - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sg at pobox.com Sat Sep 18 11:02:36 2004 From: sg at pobox.com (sg at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:32:36 +0530 Subject: Start up program In-Reply-To: <4149BE02.7070002@vitalstream.com> References: <1088776367.2525.4.camel@heart> <200409161620.26500.sg@pobox.com> <4149BE02.7070002@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200409181632.36163.sg@pobox.com> Sir, I am having RedHat Linux 9 and want to add a program in startup like windows. how can i do this. Rajeev. From garyttt at singnet.com.sg Sat Sep 18 18:14:58 2004 From: garyttt at singnet.com.sg (garyttt) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:14:58 +0800 (SGT) Subject: Centralized LDAP Authentication using OpenLDAP+OpenSSH+nss_ldap+pam_ldap Message-ID: <1095531298.414c7b227fdab@flounder.singnet.com.sg> List subscibers, For the benefits of those learners/newbies who are looking for a HOWTO w.r.t. the subject, please visit: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~garyttt/ If it takes you less than two weeks to setup and on the way you learn something, I am happy to see that. Rgds Gary From hmann at itgroundwork.com Sat Sep 18 20:55:20 2004 From: hmann at itgroundwork.com (Harper Mann) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:55:20 -0700 Subject: Package Management Tool doesn't recognize CD-ROM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200409182055.i8IKtARi030059@mx1.redhat.com> Sounds like Disc 2 may have an error. You can boot off disc 1 and run the disk verification check. It's generally a good idea to very the whole set. Regards, - Harper Harper Mann Groundwork Open Source Solutions 510-599-2075 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Pool Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:10 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Cc: Christie Evans Subject: Package Management Tool doesn't recognize CD-ROM After installing RHEL AS 3 on a system with an ECS Elitegroup K7S5A Pro mainboard with an AMD Athlon XP 1500+ CPU and an Ultima Electronics DHM-G48 DVD-ROM drive, I decided to add some packages to the installation and ran the Package Management Tool (redhat-config-packages) from an xterm window. The tool behaved as I would expect until it finished obtaining my package additions, and then it said: "Red Hat Enterprise 3 Linux" disk 2 needed to install packages. Insert the disk and press OK. I did that, and immediately after I pressed OK I got another copy of that same message, and this continued indefinitely. Each press on OK would start the CD-ROM drive spinning for a few seconds, but the window would never get dismissed. Experimentation revealed that, while this message awaited my OK, I could go to another terminal window and mount, read, and unmount the CD-ROM (as /mnt/cdrom, where /dev/cdrom is mounted per /etc/fstab), but if I pressed the PMT's OK button after mounting the CD-ROM with "mount" then I could no longer unmount it with "umount", instead getting an error message saying it wasn't mounted. Thus, it looked as if PMT's OK button unmounted the CD-ROM if already mounted. I have searched the KB and forums for prior reports of this problem and found a few, but their resolutions don't seem to apply here. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sat Sep 18 21:53:42 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:53:42 -0500 Subject: Start up program In-Reply-To: <200409181632.36163.sg@pobox.com> References: <1088776367.2525.4.camel@heart> <200409161620.26500.sg@pobox.com> <4149BE02.7070002@vitalstream.com> <200409181632.36163.sg@pobox.com> Message-ID: <20040918215342.GA5342@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 04:32:36PM +0530, sg at pobox.com wrote: > Sir, > > I am having RedHat Linux 9 and want to add a program in startup like windows. > how can i do this. > > Rajeev. Depends on which window manager you're using. If using GNOME/Metacity, go to Start->Preferences->More(or Extra)Preferences->Sessions->Startup. See also http://www.linuxforum.com/gnome/goscustsession-5.html Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From pool at utilika.org Sun Sep 19 01:46:46 2004 From: pool at utilika.org (Jonathan Pool) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:46:46 -0700 Subject: Package Management Tool doesn't recognize CD-ROM Message-ID: Good suggestion; I should have done that test. Now I have, and the installation disks all passed. So the cause would seem to be somewhere else. From gnichols at tpg.com.au Sun Sep 19 03:15:21 2004 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:15:21 +1000 Subject: writing grub to mbr to hda with Windows XP Message-ID: <1095563720.3805.13.camel@barney.localdomain> Hello Folks, I have been fortunate enough to be able to upgrade to a new machine, 3G P4, 200Gb HD 512Mb RAM. This machine came with Windows XP Home preinstalled with the 200Gb HD divided into 3 partitions, the first partition being 95Gb with the Operating System and programs installed, second partition 85Gb containing all the installed software for a complete re-install to original settings and the third partiton containing all the drivers. To get my FC2 on to this machine I removed the second HD which contained my FC2 from my old machine and installed it in the new machine and booted up using my boot floppy. As FC2 was booting it removed the old hardware etc. and installed the new etc. I logged in and all was perfect. Now my question is; can I write grub to the mbr of hda which contains the XP install without mucking things up? I seem to recall that XP doesn't like Linux bootloaders. Am I correct? All advice welcomed. Be nice to get grub working. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme Nichols. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Endless the world's turn, endless the sun's spinning Endless the quest; I turn again, back to my own beginning, And here, find rest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From res73gzq at verizon.net Sun Sep 19 04:12:24 2004 From: res73gzq at verizon.net (res gzq) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:12:24 -1000 Subject: writing grub to mbr to hda with Windows XP References: <1095563720.3805.13.camel@barney.localdomain> Message-ID: <001601c49dfe$df419e10$1000a8c0@presario> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Nichols" To: Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: writing grub to mbr to hda with Windows XP > Hello Folks, I have been fortunate enough to be able to upgrade to a new > machine, 3G P4, 200Gb HD 512Mb RAM. This machine came with Windows XP > Home preinstalled with the 200Gb HD divided into 3 partitions, the first > partition being 95Gb with the Operating System and programs installed, > second partition 85Gb containing all the installed software for a > complete re-install to original settings and the third partiton > containing all the drivers. > > To get my FC2 on to this machine I removed the second HD which contained > my FC2 from my old machine and installed it in the new machine and > booted up using my boot floppy. As FC2 was booting it removed the old > hardware etc. and installed the new etc. I logged in and all was > perfect. > > Now my question is; can I write grub to the mbr of hda which contains > the XP install without mucking things up? I seem to recall that XP > doesn't like Linux bootloaders. Am I correct? > > All advice welcomed. Be nice to get grub working. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kind regards, Graeme Nichols. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What I did: With Windows present: I did a Linux install (choosing GRUB) and install it to MBR. I believe that GRUB will find the Windows partition and give you an entry to it. So, on GRUB boot up, you will have a choice of Linux or Windows. I used RedHat 9; but I think it should work in your case. It would be useful to have a Win98 boot disk w/ FDISK. if there is a problem: FDISK /MBR should restore the Master Boot record to boot to Windows. The easier way would be to load GRUB directly to MBR. GRUB should be able to boot to a second hard drive. If you have any problems I can forward my Menu.lst file. jk > Endless the world's turn, endless the sun's spinning Endless the quest; > I turn again, back to my own beginning, And here, find rest. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From nofri at luk.or.id Sun Sep 19 04:30:02 2004 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:30:02 GMT Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <20040918031831.31747.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> <20040917021747.32041.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414B2C61.5040302@vitalstream.com> <20040918031831.31747.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <20040919043002.15481.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Hallo Rick, In order to see the problem clearly, here below is the message i receive if i start the command wvdial. With command wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf the modem was detected. Could you please tell me what i have to do so that my computer connects to internet? Thank you very very much in advance. * nofri * THE MESSAGE: [root at MeinRechner root]# wvdial --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53 --> Initializing modem. --> Sending: ATZ ATZ OK --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 OK --> Modem initialized. --> Sending: ATDT080989999 --> Waiting for carrier. ATDT080989999 CONNECT 36000/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS ~[7f]}#@!}!y} )}!}$}&@}%}&/[7f][0b]0}"}&} } } } }1}$}&@}7}$}#B}#}$@#}3})}#}(} }#}*2|e}4~ --> Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. --> Starting pppd at Sun Sep 19 10:52:23 2004 --> pid of pppd: 3722 --> Disconnecting at Sun Sep 19 10:52:29 2004 --> The PPP daemon has died: PPP negotiation failed (exit code = 10) --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. --> I guess that's it for now, exiting --> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 10) [root at MeinRechner root]# From nofri at luk.or.id Sun Sep 19 07:17:15 2004 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:17:15 GMT Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20040919071715.2139.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Sorry Rick. Pardon, i don't understand what is winmodem. And what is REAL modem? Could you tell me please the differents between them? Thanks very, very much. Rick Stevens writes: > Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: >> Hi all, >> I've tried dial up connection with wvdial. But it was connected and >> direct disconnected. >> Exit status = 10 >> It means: >> The PPP negotiation failed, that is, it didnot reach the point >> where at least one network protocol (e.g. IP) was running. >> With ifconfig, i've received only eth0 and lo without ppp0. >> Could someone tell me how to bring up the ppp0? > > Are you certain your system supports your modem? If you have a > "winmodem", the odds are great that it flat won't work. You have to > make sure you have a driver that supports your modem. If minicom > can't access the modem, then wvdial can't either. > > My suggestion: spend the $50 and buy a REAL modem. You know...the kind > that plugs into a serial port. Winmodems are bloody evil beasts. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Cuteness can be overcome through sufficient bastardry - > - --Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Sep 19 11:33:55 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:33:55 -0500 Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <20040919071715.2139.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> <20040919071715.2139.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <20040919113355.GA17432@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:17:15AM +0000, Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > Sorry Rick. Pardon, i don't understand what is winmodem. And what is REAL > modem? > Could you tell me please the differents between them? > Thanks very, very much. http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#winmodem > Rick Stevens writes: > > >Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > >>Hi all, > >>I've tried dial up connection with wvdial. But it was connected and > >>direct disconnected. > >>Exit status = 10 > >>It means: > >>The PPP negotiation failed, that is, it didnot reach the point > >>where at least one network protocol (e.g. IP) was running. > >>With ifconfig, i've received only eth0 and lo without ppp0. > >>Could someone tell me how to bring up the ppp0? > > > >Are you certain your system supports your modem? If you have a > >"winmodem", the odds are great that it flat won't work. You have to > >make sure you have a driver that supports your modem. If minicom > >can't access the modem, then wvdial can't either. > > > >My suggestion: spend the $50 and buy a REAL modem. You know...the kind > >that plugs into a serial port. Winmodems are bloody evil beasts. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > >- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From invest at juun.com Mon Sep 20 00:43:45 2004 From: invest at juun.com (P. George) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:43:45 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub Message-ID: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to get to boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything up again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can see my install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and the machine reboots. how can i remedy this situation? thanks. - philip From invest at juun.com Mon Sep 20 01:29:05 2004 From: invest at juun.com (P. George) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:29:05 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> Message-ID: <75DDB518-0AA4-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> maybe the first thing to focus on is the GRUB setup from the previous installation: root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 ro root=/dev/hdc2 initrd /initrd-2.4.7-10.img i can't remember how i had the other machine setup. it's been a while. but as for the new setup, i have the hard drive on the primary bus and set to master/single. ALL other peripherals are removed to make sure i can bootup first. once i get that working, i'll start adding drivers for everything else. so, right now it's just a motherboard, cpu, power supply, video card, and hard drive. nothing else. should i change "hdc2" to something else? if so, what? thanks. - philip On Sep 19, 2004, at 7:43 PM, P. George wrote: > i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to get > to boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything > up again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just > right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) > > so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can see > my install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and > the machine reboots. > > how can i remedy this situation? > > thanks. > > - philip > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Sep 20 01:41:05 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:41:05 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> Message-ID: <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:43:45PM -0500, P. George wrote: > i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to get to > boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything up > again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just > right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) > > so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can see my > install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and the > machine reboots. > > how can i remedy this situation? > > thanks. > > - philip My guess is that it doesn't grok the new video stuff, so you should boot to text mode (runlevel 3) where you can re-run redhat-config-xfree86. To do that, use your up or down arrow keys so that the desired boot line is highlighted, then hit "a" to append to the boot line. Then hit a space and then "3", and hit return. See also http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From invest at juun.com Mon Sep 20 02:21:49 2004 From: invest at juun.com (P. George) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:21:49 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: tried it. no change. the video card is the same actually. in fact, the motherboard/cpu is the only thing different from the old setup. same ram/video/monitor/psupply. sorry, that's inportant info. i should have been more clear before. - philip On Sep 19, 2004, at 8:41 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:43:45PM -0500, P. George wrote: >> i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to get >> to >> boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything up >> again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just >> right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) >> >> so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can see >> my >> install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and >> the >> machine reboots. >> >> how can i remedy this situation? >> >> thanks. >> >> - philip > > My guess is that it doesn't grok the new video stuff, so you should > boot to text mode (runlevel 3) where you can re-run > redhat-config-xfree86. To do that, use your up or down arrow keys so > that the desired boot line is highlighted, then hit "a" to append to > the boot line. Then hit a space and then "3", and hit return. > > See also > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > Grace happens. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From invest at juun.com Mon Sep 20 02:26:39 2004 From: invest at juun.com (P. George) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:26:39 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> oops. forgot to spellcheck. i promise i don't normally spell "important" with an 'n'. ;) so, anything else i should try? i still have the install cd's. could i use them to do anything here? (besides blow away my entire original configuration) - philip On Sep 19, 2004, at 9:21 PM, P. George wrote: > tried it. no change. > > the video card is the same actually. in fact, the motherboard/cpu is > the only thing different from the old setup. same > ram/video/monitor/psupply. > > sorry, that's inportant info. i should have been more clear before. > > - philip > > > > > On Sep 19, 2004, at 8:41 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:43:45PM -0500, P. George wrote: >>> i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to get >>> to >>> boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything >>> up >>> again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just >>> right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) >>> >>> so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can see >>> my >>> install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and >>> the >>> machine reboots. >>> >>> how can i remedy this situation? >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> - philip >> >> My guess is that it doesn't grok the new video stuff, so you should >> boot to text mode (runlevel 3) where you can re-run >> redhat-config-xfree86. To do that, use your up or down arrow keys so >> that the desired boot line is highlighted, then hit "a" to append to >> the boot line. Then hit a space and then "3", and hit return. >> >> See also >> >> http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >> robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com >> Grace happens. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From invest at juun.com Mon Sep 20 02:34:07 2004 From: invest at juun.com (P. George) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:34:07 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> Message-ID: <8C0D0B47-0AAD-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> grub seems to be the problem, so can i just reinstall grub from the install cd? - philip ps: where is everyone? this list is so quiet. On Sep 19, 2004, at 9:26 PM, P. George wrote: > oops. forgot to spellcheck. i promise i don't normally spell > "important" with an 'n'. > > ;) > > so, anything else i should try? > > i still have the install cd's. could i use them to do anything here? > (besides blow away my entire original configuration) > > - philip > > > > > On Sep 19, 2004, at 9:21 PM, P. George wrote: > >> tried it. no change. >> >> the video card is the same actually. in fact, the motherboard/cpu is >> the only thing different from the old setup. same >> ram/video/monitor/psupply. >> >> sorry, that's inportant info. i should have been more clear before. >> >> - philip >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 19, 2004, at 8:41 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:43:45PM -0500, P. George wrote: >>>> i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to >>>> get to >>>> boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything >>>> up >>>> again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just >>>> right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) >>>> >>>> so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can >>>> see my >>>> install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and >>>> the >>>> machine reboots. >>>> >>>> how can i remedy this situation? >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> - philip >>> >>> My guess is that it doesn't grok the new video stuff, so you should >>> boot to text mode (runlevel 3) where you can re-run >>> redhat-config-xfree86. To do that, use your up or down arrow keys so >>> that the desired boot line is highlighted, then hit "a" to append to >>> the boot line. Then hit a space and then "3", and hit return. >>> >>> See also >>> >>> http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- >>> Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >>> robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com >>> Grace happens. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Redhat-install-list mailing list >>> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>> Subject: unsubscribe >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Sep 20 02:38:42 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:38:42 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> Message-ID: <20040920023842.GA21949@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 09:26:39PM -0500, P. George wrote: > oops. forgot to spellcheck. i promise i don't normally spell > "important" with an 'n'. > > ;) > > so, anything else i should try? > > i still have the install cd's. could i use them to do anything here? > (besides blow away my entire original configuration) > > - philip Hmm. Well, at this point I'm grabbing at straws. You're not working with a (much) different processor are you, say gone from an Athlon to a P4? If it's a mere upgrade, shouldn't be a problem, say from P2 to P4. If there's any question, you could boot from your distro disk and "upgrade" it. The only other thing I can think of is wierd devices. I'd unplug anything non-essential for booting like USB devices. Or, in that same vein, you could boot with a "nousb" option. Do that the same way you booted to runlevel 3, before. Also, we prefer bottom posting here (post your response under what you are responding too). Of course, we've already made quite a mess of it. Answer: Because it makes it easier to follow the flow. Question: Why bottom-post? > On Sep 19, 2004, at 9:21 PM, P. George wrote: > > >tried it. no change. > > > >the video card is the same actually. in fact, the motherboard/cpu is > >the only thing different from the old setup. same > >ram/video/monitor/psupply. > > > >sorry, that's inportant info. i should have been more clear before. > > > >- philip > > > > > > > > > >On Sep 19, 2004, at 8:41 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > > >>On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:43:45PM -0500, P. George wrote: > >>>i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to get > >>>to > >>>boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything > >>>up > >>>again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just > >>>right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) > >>> > >>>so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can see > >>>my > >>>install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and > >>>the > >>>machine reboots. > >>> > >>>how can i remedy this situation? > >>> > >>>thanks. > >>> > >>>- philip > >> > >>My guess is that it doesn't grok the new video stuff, so you should > >>boot to text mode (runlevel 3) where you can re-run > >>redhat-config-xfree86. To do that, use your up or down arrow keys so > >>that the desired boot line is highlighted, then hit "a" to append to > >>the boot line. Then hit a space and then "3", and hit return. > >> > >>See also > >> > >>http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails > >> > >>Cheers, > >>-- > >>Bob McClure, Jr. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Sep 20 02:42:07 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:42:07 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: <8C0D0B47-0AAD-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <8C0D0B47-0AAD-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> Message-ID: <20040920024207.GB21949@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 09:34:07PM -0500, P. George wrote: > grub seems to be the problem, so can i just reinstall grub from the > install cd? Yeah, you could. Boot with your install CD to rescue mode (put "linux rescue" at the boot prompt). Let it mount your system on /mnt/sysimage. Then pop out your CD and chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/hda exit exit Yes, exit twice - once to exit the chroot and once to reboot. > - philip > > ps: where is everyone? this list is so quiet. > > > > > On Sep 19, 2004, at 9:26 PM, P. George wrote: > > >oops. forgot to spellcheck. i promise i don't normally spell > >"important" with an 'n'. > > > >;) > > > >so, anything else i should try? > > > >i still have the install cd's. could i use them to do anything here? > >(besides blow away my entire original configuration) > > > >- philip > > > > > > > > > >On Sep 19, 2004, at 9:21 PM, P. George wrote: > > > >>tried it. no change. > >> > >>the video card is the same actually. in fact, the motherboard/cpu is > >>the only thing different from the old setup. same > >>ram/video/monitor/psupply. > >> > >>sorry, that's inportant info. i should have been more clear before. > >> > >>- philip > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>On Sep 19, 2004, at 8:41 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> > >>>On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 07:43:45PM -0500, P. George wrote: > >>>>i have a redhat install from another computer that i'm trying to > >>>>get to > >>>>boot on different hardware. i don't want to have to set everything > >>>>up > >>>>again from scratch. a LOT of tediosity went into getting it "just > >>>>right." i'm sure you can relate/empathize. ;) > >>>> > >>>>so, here's what happens: i boot and get to the grub gui. i can > >>>>see my > >>>>install in the list. i double-click it. the screen goes black and > >>>>the > >>>>machine reboots. > >>>> > >>>>how can i remedy this situation? > >>>> > >>>>thanks. > >>>> > >>>>- philip > >>> > >>>My guess is that it doesn't grok the new video stuff, so you should > >>>boot to text mode (runlevel 3) where you can re-run > >>>redhat-config-xfree86. To do that, use your up or down arrow keys so > >>>that the desired boot line is highlighted, then hit "a" to append to > >>>the boot line. Then hit a space and then "3", and hit return. > >>> > >>>See also > >>> > >>>http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails > >>> > >>>Cheers, > >>>-- > >>>Bob McClure, Jr. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From invest at juun.com Mon Sep 20 02:49:01 2004 From: invest at juun.com (P. George) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:49:01 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: <20040920023842.GA21949@bobcat.cumbytel.com> References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920023842.GA21949@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: > Hmm. Well, at this point I'm grabbing at straws. You're not working > with a (much) different processor are you, say gone from an Athlon to > a P4? If it's a mere upgrade, shouldn't be a problem, say from P2 to > P4. If there's any question, you could boot from your distro disk and > "upgrade" it. i went from an intel-based setup to an amd-based setup. maybe that's the problem. > The only other thing I can think of is wierd devices. I'd unplug > anything non-essential for booting like USB devices. Or, in that same > vein, you could boot with a "nousb" option. Do that the same way you > booted to runlevel 3, before. it's not making it that far. i don't think i'm making it past the grub-linux handshake. > Also, we prefer bottom posting here (post your response under what you > are responding too). Of course, we've already made quite a mess of > it. got it. ;) - philip From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Sep 20 02:54:10 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:54:10 -0500 Subject: moving hard drive to new machine : can't get past grub In-Reply-To: References: <20D12CA5-0A9E-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920014105.GA21631@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <80AC84F2-0AAC-11D9-99A5-000D932AEE70@juun.com> <20040920023842.GA21949@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: <20040920025410.GD21949@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 09:49:01PM -0500, P. George wrote: > >Hmm. Well, at this point I'm grabbing at straws. You're not working > >with a (much) different processor are you, say gone from an Athlon to > >a P4? If it's a mere upgrade, shouldn't be a problem, say from P2 to > >P4. If there's any question, you could boot from your distro disk and > >"upgrade" it. > > i went from an intel-based setup to an amd-based setup. maybe that's > the problem. I doubt it. The Athlon is a super-set of the P*. Anything that worked on a Pentium should work on an Athlon. Good choice, BTW. Four out of five of my machines are AMD machines. More bang for the buck. > >The only other thing I can think of is wierd devices. I'd unplug > >anything non-essential for booting like USB devices. Or, in that same > >vein, you could boot with a "nousb" option. Do that the same way you > >booted to runlevel 3, before. > > it's not making it that far. i don't think i'm making it past the > grub-linux handshake. Hey, I said I was grabbing straws. :-) You're probably right. Try the re-install of grub, as I posted earlier, and failing that, try "upgrading" from your CDs. > >Also, we prefer bottom posting here (post your response under what you > >are responding too). Of course, we've already made quite a mess of > >it. > > got it. ;) > > - philip Good man. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From gnichols at tpg.com.au Mon Sep 20 03:34:45 2004 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:34:45 +1000 Subject: writing grub to mbr to hda with Windows XP In-Reply-To: <001601c49dfe$df419e10$1000a8c0@presario> References: <1095563720.3805.13.camel@barney.localdomain> <001601c49dfe$df419e10$1000a8c0@presario> Message-ID: <1095651285.3868.7.camel@barney.localdomain> On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 14:12, res gzq wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graeme Nichols" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:15 PM > Subject: writing grub to mbr to hda with Windows XP > > > > Hello Folks, I have been fortunate enough to be able to upgrade to a new > > machine, 3G P4, 200Gb HD 512Mb RAM. This machine came with Windows XP > > Home preinstalled with the 200Gb HD divided into 3 partitions, the first > > partition being 95Gb with the Operating System and programs installed, > > second partition 85Gb containing all the installed software for a > > complete re-install to original settings and the third partiton > > containing all the drivers. > > > > To get my FC2 on to this machine I removed the second HD which contained > > my FC2 from my old machine and installed it in the new machine and > > booted up using my boot floppy. As FC2 was booting it removed the old > > hardware etc. and installed the new etc. I logged in and all was > > perfect. > > > > Now my question is; can I write grub to the mbr of hda which contains > > the XP install without mucking things up? I seem to recall that XP > > doesn't like Linux bootloaders. Am I correct? > > > > All advice welcomed. Be nice to get grub working. > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Kind regards, Graeme Nichols. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > What I did: > > With Windows present: > I did a Linux install (choosing GRUB) and install it to MBR. I believe that > GRUB will find the Windows partition and give you an entry to it. So, on > GRUB boot up, you will have a choice of Linux or Windows. I used RedHat 9; > but I think it should work in your case. It would be useful to have a Win98 > boot disk w/ FDISK. if there is a problem: FDISK /MBR should restore the > Master Boot record to boot to Windows. > > The easier way would be to load GRUB directly to MBR. GRUB should be able > to boot to a second hard drive. > > If you have any problems I can forward my Menu.lst file. > > jk Thanks for the info. I have it all working now. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme Nichols. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deliberate provocation of mystical experience, particularly by LSD and related hallucinogens, in contrast to spontaneous visionary experiences, entails dangers that must not be underestimated. Practitioners must take into account the peculiar effects of these substances, namely their ability to influence our consciousness, the innermost essence of our being. The history of LSD to date amply demonstrates the catastrophic consequences that can ensue when its profound effect is misjudged and the substance is mistaken for a pleasure drug. Special internal and external advance preperations are required; with them, an LSD experiment can become a meaningful experience. - Dr. Albert Hoffman, the discoverer of LSD ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Sep 20 18:47:13 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:47:13 -0700 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <414F25B1.2020508@vitalstream.com> Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Hi , > > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> GURUPRASAD, NAVEEN wrote: >> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Recently I migrated my comp to RedHat Linux 9.0, when tried to play a >>> mp3 file, there is a message "License Issue". >>> >>> Can anyone advice me to fix this problem > > > Sorry , you can't fix License Issues . It is not a problem for you to > resolve , others have to deal with Licences . Meanwhile though > you can just go to > > http://www.xmms.org/download.php , > > get the source of the xmms 1.2.10 , compile it and go on with it . > > >> There was a copyright infringement lawsuit over this, so RedHat stopped >> sending MP3-enabled xmms stuff. >> >> If you want to risk it, you can get the codec and such from: >> >> http://havardk.xmms.org/dist/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rh9-rpm/ >> >> By the way, there is no such animal as Red Hat Linux 9.0. It is >> RedHat Linux 9 (no ".0"). > > > Rick , if i recall well you have said that before and it is > Suse Linux 9.0 and Redhat Linux 9 , it is just a difference > in the trademarks stuff . No, it is not. SUSe and Red Hat are totally different. There are no commonalities between versions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The Theory of Rapitivity: E=MC Hammer - - -- Glenn Marcus (via TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Sep 20 18:54:11 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:54:11 -0700 Subject: Dial up failed In-Reply-To: <20040919043002.15481.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20040916211704.54209.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> <414A16E2.6040500@vitalstream.com> <20040917000020.5238.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414A3479.5080303@vitalstream.com> <20040917021747.32041.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <414B2C61.5040302@vitalstream.com> <20040918031831.31747.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <20040919043002.15481.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <414F2753.2090504@vitalstream.com> Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > Hallo Rick, > In order to see the problem clearly, here below is the message i receive > if i start the command wvdial. > With command wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf the modem was detected. > Could you please tell me what i have to do so that my computer connects > to internet? > Thank you very very much in advance. > * nofri * > THE MESSAGE: > [root at MeinRechner root]# wvdial > --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53 > --> Initializing modem. > --> Sending: ATZ > ATZ > OK > --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 > ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0 > OK > --> Modem initialized. > --> Sending: ATDT080989999 > --> Waiting for carrier. > ATDT080989999 > CONNECT 36000/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS > ~[7f]}#@!}!y} )}!}$}&@}%}&/[7f][0b]0}"}&} } } } > }1}$}&@}7}$}#B}#}$@#}3})}#}(} }#}*2|e}4~ > --> Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. > --> Starting pppd at Sun Sep 19 10:52:23 2004 > --> pid of pppd: 3722 > --> Disconnecting at Sun Sep 19 10:52:29 2004 > --> The PPP daemon has died: PPP negotiation failed (exit code = 10) > --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. > --> I guess that's it for now, exiting > --> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 10) > [root at MeinRechner root]# Your negotiation with your ISP failed. Most likely it didn't like either your username or password. The Linux pppd process supports the PAP and CHAP authentication mechanisms. Make sure your ISP uses one or the other. You have set up the PPP stuff to log into your ISP, right? Make sure you run Start->Internet->More Internet Applications->KPPP to set up your connection. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The Theory of Rapitivity: E=MC Hammer - - -- Glenn Marcus (via TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlftsamd at yahoo.com Mon Sep 20 20:19:14 2004 From: mlftsamd at yahoo.com (Sam Duvall) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: cannot boot to dos Message-ID: <20040920201914.6592.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> Hi I have redhat ver 8 installed and have a second hard drive that should boot to DOS and when I try to boot to that drive I get this message "booting to DOS" rootnoverify (hd1,0) chainloader +1 What I am wanting to do is uninstall redhat and format both hard drives so I can install XP again because my lead computer needs replaced and I want to use that one for mt home network server. Can I use fdisk in redhat to do this or do I have to use fdisk for windows? I have tried to install XP by booting from the cdrom drive and it boots red hat anyway. Thank You Sam Duvall _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Sep 20 20:29:25 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:29:25 -0700 Subject: cannot boot to dos In-Reply-To: <20040920201914.6592.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040920201914.6592.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <414F3DA5.5070106@vitalstream.com> Sam Duvall wrote: > Hi > > I have redhat ver 8 installed and have a second hard > drive that should boot to DOS and when I try to boot > to that drive I get this message > > "booting to DOS" > rootnoverify (hd1,0) > chainloader +1 > > What I am wanting to do is uninstall redhat and format > both hard drives so I can install XP again because my > lead computer needs replaced and I want to use that > one for mt home network server. > > Can I use fdisk in redhat to do this or do I have to > use fdisk for windows? Either, but since you're reinstalling XP, just boot the CD and have XP wipe out the hard drive. > I have tried to install XP by booting from the cdrom > drive and it boots red hat anyway. Then you don't have the BIOS set properly. You must reboot the machine and get into the BIOS (by pressing the DEL, F2 or F12 keys, depending on the BIOS). Go into the boot device order list and set it up to boot from the CD-ROM first, THEN the hard drive. I normally set systems up to try the floppy first, the CD second, the hard drive third, and (possibly) the network last. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "The bogosity meter just pegged." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Mon Sep 20 22:07:07 2004 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 01:07:07 +0300 Subject: XMMS Not Working with MP3 files In-Reply-To: <414F25B1.2020508@vitalstream.com> References: <26A1C3E774239A49B4C6A647C88605BB17BD6B@bgeexc04.asiapacific.cpqcorp.net> <41488EBC.70209@vitalstream.com> <414B64F9.40502@cha.forthnet.gr> <414F25B1.2020508@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <414F548B.3060105@cha.forthnet.gr> Rick Stevens wrote: > Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > >> Hi , < snip > >> Rick , if i recall well you have said that before and it is >> Suse Linux 9.0 and Redhat Linux 9 , it is just a difference >> in the trademarks stuff . > > > No, it is not. SUSe and Red Hat are totally different. There are no > commonalities between versions. Ok. My mistake . From harold at hallikainen.com Mon Sep 20 23:09:48 2004 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ideas for dial in line sharing? Message-ID: <61118.207.177.227.29.1095721788.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> I've got a single phone line that I'd like to use to dial in to a RH8 machine and set up a ppp connection (from my cellphone). This same line goes to other telephones, answering machine, etc. I'm thinking the RH8 machine could watch for a ring (either the word RING or a high on the RI pin). It would then start a timer. If it rings again between 30 and 60 seconds later, it would answer as a data call. Otherwise it would not answer. When I want to dial in, I'd call the line, let it ring once, then hang up. I'd wait 30 seconds, then dial out with the modem capability of the cellphone. Ideally that call arrives in the 30-60 second period and the RH8 machine tells the modem to answer. Does this sound workable? How are others handling incoming calls on lines that are shared as voice lines? THANKS!!! Harold -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Sep 20 23:23:49 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:23:49 -0700 Subject: Ideas for dial in line sharing? In-Reply-To: <61118.207.177.227.29.1095721788.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <61118.207.177.227.29.1095721788.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <414F6685.10304@vitalstream.com> Harold Hallikainen wrote: > I've got a single phone line that I'd like to use to dial in to a RH8 > machine and set up a ppp connection (from my cellphone). This same line > goes to other telephones, answering machine, etc. I'm thinking the RH8 > machine could watch for a ring (either the word RING or a high on the RI > pin). It would then start a timer. If it rings again between 30 and 60 > seconds later, it would answer as a data call. Otherwise it would not > answer. When I want to dial in, I'd call the line, let it ring once, then > hang up. I'd wait 30 seconds, then dial out with the modem capability of > the cellphone. Ideally that call arrives in the 30-60 second period and > the RH8 machine tells the modem to answer. Does this sound workable? How > are others handling incoming calls on lines that are shared as voice > lines? Ye GODS! Yes, you can do something like that, but basing it on timing (especially with a cell phone) is dicey at best. The better idea is to get one of those automatic switch thingies that lets you share a computer, fax and phone (it looks at the incoming call and determines if it's a fax call, a modem or a voice call, then routes it to the appropriate jack). They're only about $100 US or so. Sample product: http://www.mcstel.com/musilishdest.html A google search for "telephone line sharing" will probably reveal more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From harold at hallikainen.com Tue Sep 21 14:30:30 2004 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 07:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ideas for dial in line sharing? In-Reply-To: <414F6685.10304@vitalstream.com> References: <61118.207.177.227.29.1095721788.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <414F6685.10304@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <63122.207.177.227.29.1095777030.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> THANKS! Looks good! Harold > Ye GODS! Yes, you can do something like that, but basing it on timing > (especially with a cell phone) is dicey at best. > > The better idea is to get one of those automatic switch thingies that > lets you share a computer, fax and phone (it looks at the incoming call > and determines if it's a fax call, a modem or a voice call, then routes > it to the appropriate jack). They're only about $100 US or so. > > Sample product: http://www.mcstel.com/musilishdest.html > > A google search for "telephone line sharing" will probably reveal more. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- FCC Rules Online at http://www.hallikainen.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 21 16:16:54 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:16:54 -0700 Subject: Ideas for dial in line sharing? In-Reply-To: <63122.207.177.227.29.1095777030.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <61118.207.177.227.29.1095721788.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <414F6685.10304@vitalstream.com> <63122.207.177.227.29.1095777030.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <415053F6.2050808@vitalstream.com> Harold Hallikainen wrote: > THANKS! Looks good! Glad to help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From larry.cotton at ntlworld.com Tue Sep 21 19:08:09 2004 From: larry.cotton at ntlworld.com (Larrys Account) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:08:09 +0100 Subject: Printer Installation & Printing on redhat Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040921200408.022189d8@alex> Does anyone know anything about this ? Have I got the wrong mailing list ? Could someone tell me where I might be able to get hold of this information ? Cheers Larry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi I've just got an Epson stylus C66 printer and I'm trying to set it up as a local printer. I'm using red-hat 8, kernel version 2.4.18-14. I would like to use CUPS as my printing system and the printer uses a USB port. I have the usb-uhci usb driver installed. /sbin/lsmod | grep usb gives: usb-uhci 26188 0 (unused) usbcore 77024 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] I've tried to add the printer using the Printer configuration too (System Settings->Printing) using the following entries: Queue name: epsonC66 printer device: /dev/usb/lp0 driver: Epson->Stylus C60->gimp-print(*) But when I do a Test print I get a dialog with the message: There was an error trying to print the test page. Could someone help me with how to go about troubleshooting this. I don't really know anything about the printing process, so I'm not sure exactly what components are involved and therefore what components I need. From what I've read I need to have some sort of spooling software daemon (I'm wanting to use cups - I'm currently using one that came with redhat), a filter that can translate the print job data into printer commands (apparently a filter, foomatic, is used with CUPS) and a driver that is compatible with the printer (gimp-print, I think should work). I have a few questions (listed below) that have come up while I've been trying to get printing to work. Does anyone has any answers, or can tell me where I can start looking to get the information ... ? 1) It seems the epson stylus C66 is not explicitly listed in linuxprinting.org. This was an oversight on my part, having looked and thought that all the C6* series were listed. My searches over the internet, however, have suggested that the C66 works using gimp-print. Am I correct in that assumption or is it not possible to use C66 with linux ? 2) Could anyone tell me how CUPS, foomatic and the gimp-print driver fit together. Am I likely to need to install new versions of them ? And if so: Where are they located on redhat ? How to I find out what versions I have ? Where can I get compatible versions from with instructions on how to install them ? 3) The CUPS documentation talks about PPD files that describe the capabilities of the printer. Where are these stored under redhat and where might I be able to get hold of one for the C66 ? 4) Are there any log files I can look at that might give me some more error information ? Cheers Larry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From vaibhav_d at yahoo.com Tue Sep 21 18:40:47 2004 From: vaibhav_d at yahoo.com (Vaibhav Deshpande) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: PERL on RH9 Message-ID: <20040921184047.72722.qmail@web51002.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, How would I check if my RH9 has PERL installed on it? If it is not, how shall I install it? Thanks in advance. -Vaibhav __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Sep 21 19:31:30 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:31:30 -0500 Subject: PERL on RH9 In-Reply-To: <20040921184047.72722.qmail@web51002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040921184047.72722.qmail@web51002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040921193130.GA6036@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 11:40:47AM -0700, Vaibhav Deshpande wrote: > Hi, > > How would I check if my RH9 has PERL installed on it? rpm -q perl > If it is not, how shall I install it? Insert your distribution disk 1 into the CD drive, and as root, mount /dev/cdrom rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/Re*/R*/Perl-5* or look through your menus for something about installing packages. See http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/getting-started-guide/s1-updating-pkgs-cdrom.html > Thanks in advance. > > -Vaibhav Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 21 21:46:44 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:46:44 -0700 Subject: Printer Installation & Printing on redhat In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040921200408.022189d8@alex> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040921200408.022189d8@alex> Message-ID: <4150A144.6060100@vitalstream.com> Larrys Account wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about this ? Have I got the wrong mailing list > ? Could someone tell me where I might be able to get hold of this > information ? We'll try. > Hi Hi, yourself! :-) > I've just got an Epson stylus C66 printer and I'm trying to set it up as > a local printer. > I'm using red-hat 8, kernel version 2.4.18-14. First, RH8.0 is TOTALLY discontinued (not even Fedora Legacy will provide updates any longer). Fedora Core 1 has been moved to legacy now, since FC3 test 2 has been released. So, Fedora Legacy is providing updates for RH7.3, RH9 and FC1. The Fedora Project is supporting FC2. As a result, I have to recommend you upgrade to Red Hat 9 or one of the Fedora Core releases ASAP. Believe me, FC2 is worth it. And the fedora-list is a _very_ active support group. > I would like to use CUPS as my printing system and the printer uses a > USB port. > > I have the usb-uhci usb driver installed. > /sbin/lsmod | grep usb gives: > usb-uhci 26188 0 (unused) > usbcore 77024 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] > > I've tried to add the printer using the Printer configuration too > (System Settings->Printing) using the following entries: > Queue name: epsonC66 > printer device: /dev/usb/lp0 > driver: Epson->Stylus C60->gimp-print(*) > > But when I do a Test print I get a dialog with the message: > There was an error trying to print the test page. > > Could someone help me with how to go about troubleshooting this. > > I don't really know anything about the printing process, so I'm not sure > exactly what components are involved and therefore what components I need. > > From what I've read I need to have some sort of spooling software > daemon (I'm wanting to use cups - I'm currently using one that came with > redhat), a filter that can translate the print job data into printer > commands (apparently a filter, foomatic, is used with CUPS) and a driver > that is compatible with the printer (gimp-print, I think should work). > > I have a few questions (listed below) that have come up while I've been > trying to get printing to work. Does anyone has any answers, or can tell > me where I can start looking to get the information ... ? > > 1) It seems the epson stylus C66 is not explicitly listed in > linuxprinting.org. This was an oversight on my part, having looked and > thought that all the C6* series were listed. My searches over the > internet, however, have suggested that the C66 works using gimp-print. > Am I correct in that assumption or is it not possible to use C66 with > linux ? I think it works, but I can't be certain since it's not explicitly stated. > 2) Could anyone tell me how CUPS, foomatic and the gimp-print driver fit > together. Am I likely to need to install new versions of them ? And if so: > Where are they located on redhat ? > How to I find out what versions I have ? > Where can I get compatible versions from with instructions on how to > install them ? CUPS is the overall system. It's made up of a number of programs, lpq-cups, lpd-cups, lpstat-cups, etc. CUPS uses foomatic to actually talk to the printers, and foomatic uses PPD files to define how the printers work. > 3) The CUPS documentation talks about PPD files that describe the > capabilities of the printer. Where are these stored under redhat and > where might I be able to get hold of one for the C66 ? The PPD files for your installed printers will be located in /etc/cups/ppd. I can tell you now that the C66 is not directly supported under either FC1 or FC2, so you may have to use the next best thing. There is support for the C60, C61, C62, C63 and C64, so you may have to try one of those drivers instead and see how it works. My guess is that the C64 driver will work, but don't quote me on that. > 4) Are there any log files I can look at that might give me some more > error information ? First, do an "lsusb" and make sure your printer is seen on the USB bus. You can also look at /var/log/messages to see if there are any error messages. The "dmesg" command may also be of some help. Again, I HIGHLY recommend you update your system to AT LEAST Red Hat 9, Fedora Core 2 would be even better. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 21 21:50:15 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:50:15 -0700 Subject: PERL on RH9 In-Reply-To: <20040921193130.GA6036@bobcat.cumbytel.com> References: <20040921184047.72722.qmail@web51002.mail.yahoo.com> <20040921193130.GA6036@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: <4150A217.5040607@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 11:40:47AM -0700, Vaibhav Deshpande wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>How would I check if my RH9 has PERL installed on it? > > > rpm -q perl Or simply "perl -v". If you get something like "This is perl, v5.8.3", you've got it. >>If it is not, how shall I install it? > > > Insert your distribution disk 1 into the CD drive, and as root, > > mount /dev/cdrom > rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/Re*/R*/Perl-5* > > or look through your menus for something about installing packages. "RedHat Icon->System Settings->Add/Remove Applications" or, as root, "redhat-config-packages" > See > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/getting-started-guide/s1-updating-pkgs-cdrom.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Batteries not included. Offer not valid in some states. - - Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From redhat at scattered.com.au Tue Sep 21 23:16:54 2004 From: redhat at scattered.com.au (David Watson) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:16:54 +1000 Subject: Redhat EL 3 install, SATA RAID problems Message-ID: <200409212319.i8LNJm61024182@mx1.redhat.com> Hi, For anyone interested in this solution, the initial release of "RedHat Enterprise Linux 3ES (i386)" came with the 2.4.21-4 kernel. Problem solved and the RAID is up with hot-swappable goodness. Regards, David Watson -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of David Watson Sent: Friday, 17 September 2004 10:28 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Redhat EL 3 install, SATA RAID problems Hi, I'm having problems with the install of RedHat Enterprise Linux. I downloaded the easy ISO "RedHat Enterprise Linux 3ES (i386) Update 3" from the Redhat site which came with the 2.4.21-20 kernel. When trying to install this on my Supermicro SuperServer 6013A-T http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6013/SYS-6013A-T.cfm, I found that only the 2.4.21-4 kernel is supported. As noted in the Supermicro FAQs, only 2.4.21-4 is supported. http://www.supermicro.com/support/faqs/faq.cfm?faq=1710 I have contacted Supermicro and they do not have a driver for 2.4.21-20. After some back and forwarding between Redhat support and Supermicro, I have established that they are waiting on an update from Adaptec (the maker of the onboard SATA HostRAID chip) which they have no ETA for. So the problem as I understand it is that I cannot install an rpm for the kernel 2.4.21-4 as this does not have SATA support. The error I get is that it cannot find the aarich module. And I cannot install the aarich rpm as only kernel 2.4.21-4 is supported. The perfect solution would be to find a RedHat Enterprise Linux 3ES release which has the 2.4.21-4 kernel in it, I'm waiting on Redhat support at the moment to confirm which kernels the previous release had in them. Anyone have any other ideas on how to tackle this problem, any help would be very much apprectiated? Kind regards, David Watson _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Sep 22 16:45:34 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:45:34 -0700 Subject: Using Linux as a Router Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB04613E53@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Anyone got a how to sitting around? I'de like to use Redhat for my home firewall/router, but can't find any good info on how to forward IP from one NIC to the other. I have a machine on the private side NIC(eth1) of the router that can ping the public NIC(eth0) of the router. But nothing beyond eth0. :confused: Thanks, Travis From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 22 17:00:43 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:00:43 -0700 Subject: Using Linux as a Router In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB04613E53@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB04613E53@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4151AFBB.7080505@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Anyone got a how to sitting around? > > I'de like to use Redhat for my home firewall/router, but can't find any > good info on how to forward IP from one NIC to the other. > > I have a machine on the private side NIC(eth1) of the router that can > ping the public NIC(eth0) of the router. But nothing beyond eth0. > :confused: You need to set the "ip_forward" flag in the kernel: echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward To make that permanent, edit /etc/sysctl.conf and look for this line: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 Change the "0" to "1" and save it. ip_forward will be set on the next reboot. If you're going to do a full-up router, don't forget about your NAT rules in iptables (a.k.a. "Masquerade"). For info on that, see: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't TOUCH anything!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Sep 22 17:32:56 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:32:56 -0700 Subject: Using Linux as a Router Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB04613E54@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:01 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Using Linux as a Router > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > Anyone got a how to sitting around? > > > > I'de like to use Redhat for my home firewall/router, but can't find > > any good info on how to forward IP from one NIC to the other. > > > > I have a machine on the private side NIC(eth1) of the > router that can > > ping the public NIC(eth0) of the router. But nothing beyond eth0. > > :confused: > > You need to set the "ip_forward" flag in the kernel: > > echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > To make that permanent, edit /etc/sysctl.conf and look for this line: > > net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 > > Change the "0" to "1" and save it. ip_forward will be set on > the next reboot. > > If you're going to do a full-up router, don't forget about > your NAT rules in iptables (a.k.a. "Masquerade"). For info > on that, see: > > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html > Thanks, was looking for ip forward everywhere and never wandered my way across it. Been having a problem with comcast getting ssslloooowwww from time to time. Got them to agree that if a ping to a comcast internal IP addy showed periods of slowness compared to others. They would actually come out and fix everything no cost to me, and no more arguing that it's my equipment causing the problem. :) From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 22 21:04:04 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:04:04 -0700 Subject: Using Linux as a Router In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB04613E54@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB04613E54@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4151E8C4.5070802@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:01 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: Using Linux as a Router >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>Anyone got a how to sitting around? >>> >>>I'de like to use Redhat for my home firewall/router, but can't find >>>any good info on how to forward IP from one NIC to the other. >>> >>>I have a machine on the private side NIC(eth1) of the >> >>router that can >> >>>ping the public NIC(eth0) of the router. But nothing beyond eth0. >>>:confused: >> >>You need to set the "ip_forward" flag in the kernel: >> >> echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward >> >>To make that permanent, edit /etc/sysctl.conf and look for this line: >> >> net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 >> >>Change the "0" to "1" and save it. ip_forward will be set on >>the next reboot. >> >>If you're going to do a full-up router, don't forget about >>your NAT rules in iptables (a.k.a. "Masquerade"). For info >>on that, see: >> >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html >> > > > Thanks, was looking for ip forward everywhere and never wandered my way > across it. > > Been having a problem with comcast getting ssslloooowwww from time to > time. Got them to agree that if a ping to a comcast internal IP addy > showed periods of slowness compared to others. They would actually come > out and fix everything no cost to me, and no more arguing that it's my > equipment causing the problem. :) Good deal. Remember that broadband is a weird beastie. Download speeds are pretty fast as it's a direct feed, but they poll your cable modem periodically to get the upload stuff. This is called TDM (time division multiplexing). I can explain it as follows: The ISP polls the entire loop N times a second and they have to service X users per poll. If you have 1000 users and they poll 100 times a second, each user has a 500 microsecond window to get the attention of the poll and can only move as much data as will fit in that 500uS window. At T-1 speeds (1.54Mbps), that's about 770 bits (96 bytes) and the total upload speed becomes about 77.6 kilobits per second. Faster than dialup and many DSLs, but not by much. The more users there are, the smaller the window, the less data anyone can upload per query and the lower the effective baud rate. Many companies don't really do any capacity planning. They keep putting people on one of these poll loops until someone bitches about the performance. They then set up a new loop and move some of the people over to the new loop. Suddenly the upload window gets longer and performance goes up. Voila! The behaviour looks like what happens when one puts too many computers on a shared network segment--although the cause of slow access in this situation is caused by collisions as a true LAN doesn't do polling. Hope that makes it a bit clearer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Errors have occurred. We won't tell you where or why. We have - - lazy programmers. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Sep 22 22:27:34 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:27:34 -0700 Subject: Using Linux as a Router Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9DB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 2:04 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Using Linux as a Router > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > >>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:01 AM > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>Subject: Re: Using Linux as a Router > >> > >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> > >>>Anyone got a how to sitting around? > >>> > >>>I'de like to use Redhat for my home firewall/router, but > can't find > >>>any good info on how to forward IP from one NIC to the other. > >>> > >>>I have a machine on the private side NIC(eth1) of the > >> > >>router that can > >> > >>>ping the public NIC(eth0) of the router. But nothing beyond eth0. > >>>:confused: > >> > >>You need to set the "ip_forward" flag in the kernel: > >> > >> echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > >> > >>To make that permanent, edit /etc/sysctl.conf and look for > this line: > >> > >> net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 > >> > >>Change the "0" to "1" and save it. ip_forward will be set > on the next > >>reboot. > >> > >>If you're going to do a full-up router, don't forget about your NAT > >>rules in iptables (a.k.a. "Masquerade"). For info on that, see: > >> > >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html > >> > > > > > > Thanks, was looking for ip forward everywhere and never wandered my > > way across it. > > > > Been having a problem with comcast getting ssslloooowwww > from time to > > time. Got them to agree that if a ping to a comcast > internal IP addy > > showed periods of slowness compared to others. They would actually > > come out and fix everything no cost to me, and no more arguing that > > it's my equipment causing the problem. :) > > Good deal. Remember that broadband is a weird beastie. > Download speeds are pretty fast as it's a direct feed, but > they poll your cable modem periodically to get the upload > stuff. This is called TDM (time division multiplexing). I > can explain it as follows: > > The ISP polls the entire loop N times a second and they have > to service X users per poll. If you have 1000 users and they > poll 100 times a second, each user has a 500 microsecond > window to get the attention of the poll and can only move as > much data as will fit in that 500uS window. At T-1 speeds > (1.54Mbps), that's about 770 bits (96 bytes) and the total > upload speed becomes about 77.6 kilobits per second. Faster > than dialup and many DSLs, but not by much. The more users > there are, the smaller the window, the less data anyone can > upload per query and the lower the effective baud rate. > > Many companies don't really do any capacity planning. They > keep putting people on one of these poll loops until someone > bitches about the performance. They then set up a new loop > and move some of the people over to the new loop. Suddenly > the upload window gets longer and performance goes up. Voila! > > The behaviour looks like what happens when one puts too many > computers on a shared network segment--although the cause of > slow access in this situation is caused by collisions as a > true LAN doesn't do polling. > > Hope that makes it a bit clearer. Probably more than I wanted to know. Hehehe... Where's my aspirin. LOL My problems are download rates... It runs fine 99% of the time, but every so often the speed drops to 600 BYTES (yes bytes) per second, at times worse, because I can't ping anything on the other side of the modem by IP. Then magically gets better on it's own after an hour or so. Although, if I power cycle the modem it seems to take less time to recover. I'de believe it was my equipment if it wasn't for the fact nothing on it changed. Right now, my suspect based on past knowledge is the cable from the pole to the modem is bad and causing problems their "tests" aren't finding. Had a similar thing happen at my parents house that had a 20+ year old cable. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 22 23:53:08 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:53:08 -0700 Subject: Using Linux as a Router In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9DB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9DB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <41521064.5080506@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 2:04 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: Using Linux as a Router >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:01 AM >>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>Subject: Re: Using Linux as a Router >>>> >>>>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Anyone got a how to sitting around? >>>>> >>>>>I'de like to use Redhat for my home firewall/router, but >> >>can't find >> >>>>>any good info on how to forward IP from one NIC to the other. >>>>> >>>>>I have a machine on the private side NIC(eth1) of the >>>> >>>>router that can >>>> >>>> >>>>>ping the public NIC(eth0) of the router. But nothing beyond eth0. >>>>>:confused: >>>> >>>>You need to set the "ip_forward" flag in the kernel: >>>> >>>> echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward >>>> >>>>To make that permanent, edit /etc/sysctl.conf and look for >> >>this line: >> >>>> net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 >>>> >>>>Change the "0" to "1" and save it. ip_forward will be set >> >>on the next >> >>>>reboot. >>>> >>>>If you're going to do a full-up router, don't forget about your NAT >>>>rules in iptables (a.k.a. "Masquerade"). For info on that, see: >>>> >>>> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html >>>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks, was looking for ip forward everywhere and never wandered my >>>way across it. >>> >>>Been having a problem with comcast getting ssslloooowwww >> >>from time to >> >>>time. Got them to agree that if a ping to a comcast >> >>internal IP addy >> >>>showed periods of slowness compared to others. They would actually >>>come out and fix everything no cost to me, and no more arguing that >>>it's my equipment causing the problem. :) >> >>Good deal. Remember that broadband is a weird beastie. >>Download speeds are pretty fast as it's a direct feed, but >>they poll your cable modem periodically to get the upload >>stuff. This is called TDM (time division multiplexing). I >>can explain it as follows: >> >>The ISP polls the entire loop N times a second and they have >>to service X users per poll. If you have 1000 users and they >>poll 100 times a second, each user has a 500 microsecond >>window to get the attention of the poll and can only move as >>much data as will fit in that 500uS window. At T-1 speeds >>(1.54Mbps), that's about 770 bits (96 bytes) and the total >>upload speed becomes about 77.6 kilobits per second. Faster >>than dialup and many DSLs, but not by much. The more users >>there are, the smaller the window, the less data anyone can >>upload per query and the lower the effective baud rate. >> >>Many companies don't really do any capacity planning. They >>keep putting people on one of these poll loops until someone >>bitches about the performance. They then set up a new loop >>and move some of the people over to the new loop. Suddenly >>the upload window gets longer and performance goes up. Voila! >> >>The behaviour looks like what happens when one puts too many >>computers on a shared network segment--although the cause of >>slow access in this situation is caused by collisions as a >>true LAN doesn't do polling. >> >>Hope that makes it a bit clearer. > > > Probably more than I wanted to know. Hehehe... Where's my aspirin. LOL > > My problems are download rates... It runs fine 99% of the time, but > every so often the speed drops to 600 BYTES (yes bytes) per second, at > times worse, because I can't ping anything on the other side of the > modem by IP. Then magically gets better on it's own after an hour or > so. Although, if I power cycle the modem it seems to take less time to > recover. A slowdown on the poll can cause slowdowns because you're not able to send either the FTP or TCP "ACK" packets back to the server. The server will wait until it gets one before it shoots you more data. > I'de believe it was my equipment if it wasn't for the fact nothing on it > changed. > > Right now, my suspect based on past knowledge is the cable from the pole > to the modem is bad and causing problems their "tests" aren't finding. > Had a similar thing happen at my parents house that had a 20+ year old > cable. That's possible, of course, but I'd expect it to remain pokey if it's a hardware fault. The only true way to sort those out is to watch a tcpdump of the session when the slowdown occurs and see if you keep sending ACKs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Thu Sep 23 04:42:39 2004 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:42:39 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: <41488C73.3080000@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hello Rick and everyone following this; In reference to ASUS A8V board previously mentioned, I decided the NIC card issue did not pose a problem enough to drop the board from consideration. The only listing of the board on the ASUS web pages is for the A8V Deluxe, it comes with built in wireless. Seems good, but the same NIC chipset. ASUS website says this: "It features 2000 MT/s HyperTransport Bus, dual-channel un-buffered DDR400 memory support and AMD Cool 'n' Quiet! Technology." I want to use an AMD 64 processor with this motherboard and AMD states that you should use registered memory with this processor. I sent ASUS an email asking if the A8V Deluxe will work with registered memory. Their reply was: "This board does not require ECC memory. Thanks." I don't believe that actually answered my question. I could postulate that since it does not _require_ ECC memory, that means it could use registered memory. But I would still be guessing that is what they were saying which defeats the whole point of asking. I asked them for clarification, it has been 3 days since I sent that mail. I received the reply to the first email on the same day. Whew!!! Long back story. So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard would work with registered memory? Thank you. Regards Bruce McDonald From iain at uk.colt.net Thu Sep 23 10:37:57 2004 From: iain at uk.colt.net (Iain Conochie) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:37:57 +0100 Subject: Kickstart install Message-ID: <4152A785.1080805@uk.colt.net> Good Morning, I am attempting a kickstart installation using a ks.cfg file in the root directory of the boot floppy. However, the installation program silently ignores the ks.cfg file. If I specify ks=ks.cfg in the boot command line then when the installer runs, i get the following error message Cannot open kickstart file (null) No such file or directory How can I force the installer to see this file? Cheers -- Iain Conochie UNIX Systems Administrator COLT Telecommunications PLC From Sanil.Nambiar at datacraft-asia.com Thu Sep 23 10:55:34 2004 From: Sanil.Nambiar at datacraft-asia.com (Sanil.Nambiar at datacraft-asia.com) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:25:34 +0530 Subject: Kickstart install Message-ID: Hi Iain, How does the syslinux.cfg file look like in your boot floppy? What do you have in the line append ks= ?????????? in the syslinux.cfg file Thanks and Warm Regards, Sanil Nambiar|Global Service center|Datacraft India JP techno Parks, # 3/1, Miller's Road, Bangalore 560 052|Tel:+91 (80) 223 77060|Mobile :+91 988018788|http://www.datacraft-asia.com|SMS :+91 9845098298 -----Original Message----- From: Iain Conochie [mailto:iain at uk.colt.net] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:08 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Kickstart install Good Morning, I am attempting a kickstart installation using a ks.cfg file in the root directory of the boot floppy. However, the installation program silently ignores the ks.cfg file. If I specify ks=ks.cfg in the boot command line then when the installer runs, i get the following error message Cannot open kickstart file (null) No such file or directory How can I force the installer to see this file? Cheers -- Iain Conochie UNIX Systems Administrator COLT Telecommunications PLC _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe This email and all contents are subject to the following disclaimer: http://www.datacraft-asia.com/html/001about_us/disclaimer.asp From tate_austin at hotmail.com Thu Sep 23 16:29:26 2004 From: tate_austin at hotmail.com (Tate Austin) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:29:26 -0400 Subject: Redhat and wireless nics References: <20040923160027.AB5AE7399D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Okay, I have a fedora core2 install and I got madwifi(http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/) from their CVS repository and installed it for my wireless nic. It worked just fine except that it was at the other end of my house from the my 802.11b router, which has limited range. So I got an 802.11g router. I can confirm it works with my windows boxes, but suddenly I can't seem to get my wireless nic to pick up the connection. I don't have WEP enabled, so there isn't any security to prohibit the connection? My nic is a netgear 311T and my new router is a Super G 108 wireless router. Does anyone out there have any relevant experience? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 23 18:37:02 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:37:02 -0700 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415317CE.5080709@vitalstream.com> Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello Rick and everyone following this; > > In reference to ASUS A8V board previously mentioned, I decided the NIC card > issue did not pose a problem enough to drop the board from consideration. > The only listing of the board on the ASUS web pages is for the A8V Deluxe, > it comes with built in wireless. Seems good, but the same NIC chipset. > > ASUS website says this: > "It features 2000 MT/s HyperTransport Bus, dual-channel un-buffered DDR400 > memory support and AMD Cool 'n' Quiet! Technology." > > I want to use an AMD 64 processor with this motherboard and AMD states that > you should use registered memory with this processor. > > I sent ASUS an email asking if the A8V Deluxe will work with registered > memory. > Their reply was: "This board does not require ECC memory. Thanks." > > I don't believe that actually answered my question. I could postulate that > since it does not _require_ ECC memory, that means it could use registered > memory. But I would still be guessing that is what they were saying which > defeats the whole point of asking. > > I asked them for clarification, it has been 3 days since I sent that mail. > I received the reply to the first email on the same day. > Whew!!! Long back story. > > > So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard would > work with registered memory? I'm not certain if it will or not. I'm not using registered memory in mine and the system seems quite happy. I'd suggest trying non- registered, name-brand RAM (Kingston, etc.) first. If you have problems, THEN think about the registered stuff. Why spend money you don't need to? Just make sure you can return the regular RAM if it doesn't work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From larry.cotton at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 23 19:23:06 2004 From: larry.cotton at ntlworld.com (Larrys Account) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:23:06 +0100 Subject: Printer Installation & Printing on redhat In-Reply-To: <4150A144.6060100@vitalstream.com> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040921200408.022189d8@alex> <4150A144.6060100@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040923201616.021906e0@alex> Thanks very much for this comprehensive reply Rick. I guess I'll start by upgrading to a newer version of redhat. Do you know if it's possible to upgrade to Fedora Core directly, or do I have to take a complete backup and do a complete re-install ? Cheers Larry At 22:46 21/09/2004, you wrote: >Larrys Account wrote: >>Does anyone know anything about this ? Have I got the wrong mailing list >>? Could someone tell me where I might be able to get hold of this information ? > >We'll try. > >>Hi > >Hi, yourself! :-) > >>I've just got an Epson stylus C66 printer and I'm trying to set it up as >>a local printer. >>I'm using red-hat 8, kernel version 2.4.18-14. > >First, RH8.0 is TOTALLY discontinued (not even Fedora Legacy will >provide updates any longer). Fedora Core 1 has been moved to legacy now, >since FC3 test 2 has been released. So, Fedora Legacy is providing >updates for RH7.3, RH9 and FC1. The Fedora Project is supporting FC2. >As a result, I have to recommend you upgrade to Red Hat 9 or one of the >Fedora Core releases ASAP. Believe me, FC2 is worth it. And the >fedora-list is a _very_ active support group. > >>I would like to use CUPS as my printing system and the printer uses a USB >>port. >>I have the usb-uhci usb driver installed. >>/sbin/lsmod | grep usb gives: >>usb-uhci 26188 0 (unused) >>usbcore 77024 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] >>I've tried to add the printer using the Printer configuration too (System >>Settings->Printing) using the following entries: >>Queue name: epsonC66 >>printer device: /dev/usb/lp0 >>driver: Epson->Stylus C60->gimp-print(*) >>But when I do a Test print I get a dialog with the message: >>There was an error trying to print the test page. >>Could someone help me with how to go about troubleshooting this. >>I don't really know anything about the printing process, so I'm not sure >>exactly what components are involved and therefore what components I need. >> From what I've read I need to have some sort of spooling software >> daemon (I'm wanting to use cups - I'm currently using one that came with >> redhat), a filter that can translate the print job data into printer >> commands (apparently a filter, foomatic, is used with CUPS) and a driver >> that is compatible with the printer (gimp-print, I think should work). >>I have a few questions (listed below) that have come up while I've been >>trying to get printing to work. Does anyone has any answers, or can tell >>me where I can start looking to get the information ... ? >>1) It seems the epson stylus C66 is not explicitly listed in >>linuxprinting.org. This was an oversight on my part, having looked and >>thought that all the C6* series were listed. My searches over the >>internet, however, have suggested that the C66 works using gimp-print. Am >>I correct in that assumption or is it not possible to use C66 with linux ? > >I think it works, but I can't be certain since it's not explicitly >stated. > >>2) Could anyone tell me how CUPS, foomatic and the gimp-print driver fit >>together. Am I likely to need to install new versions of them ? And if so: >> Where are they located on redhat ? >> How to I find out what versions I have ? >> Where can I get compatible versions from with instructions on how to >> install them ? > >CUPS is the overall system. It's made up of a number of programs, >lpq-cups, lpd-cups, lpstat-cups, etc. CUPS uses foomatic to actually >talk to the printers, and foomatic uses PPD files to define how the >printers work. > >>3) The CUPS documentation talks about PPD files that describe the >>capabilities of the printer. Where are these stored under redhat and >>where might I be able to get hold of one for the C66 ? > >The PPD files for your installed printers will be located in >/etc/cups/ppd. I can tell you now that the C66 is not directly >supported under either FC1 or FC2, so you may have to use the next best >thing. There is support for the C60, C61, C62, C63 and C64, so you may >have to try one of those drivers instead and see how it works. My guess >is that the C64 driver will work, but don't quote me on that. > >>4) Are there any log files I can look at that might give me some more >>error information ? > >First, do an "lsusb" and make sure your printer is seen on the USB bus. >You can also look at /var/log/messages to see if there are any error >messages. The "dmesg" command may also be of some help. > >Again, I HIGHLY recommend you update your system to AT LEAST Red Hat 9, >Fedora Core 2 would be even better. >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >- - >- Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe From theej at mchsi.com Thu Sep 23 18:48:33 2004 From: theej at mchsi.com (Eric Burns) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:48:33 -0500 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: <20040923160026.A28A873A2C@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20040923160026.A28A873A2C@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <41531A81.8010302@mchsi.com> > > Subject: > Re: Building a new computer > From: > Bruce McDonald > Date: > Wed, 22 Sep 2004 20:42:39 -0800 > To: > Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > To: > Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > Hello Rick and everyone following this; > > In reference to ASUS A8V board previously mentioned, I decided the NIC card > issue did not pose a problem enough to drop the board from consideration. > The only listing of the board on the ASUS web pages is for the A8V Deluxe, > it comes with built in wireless. Seems good, but the same NIC chipset. > > ASUS website says this: > "It features 2000 MT/s HyperTransport Bus, dual-channel un-buffered DDR400 > memory support and AMD Cool 'n' Quiet! Technology." > > I want to use an AMD 64 processor with this motherboard and AMD states that > you should use registered memory with this processor. > > I sent ASUS an email asking if the A8V Deluxe will work with registered > memory. > Their reply was: "This board does not require ECC memory. Thanks." > > I don't believe that actually answered my question. I could postulate that > since it does not _require_ ECC memory, that means it could use registered > memory. But I would still be guessing that is what they were saying which > defeats the whole point of asking. > > I asked them for clarification, it has been 3 days since I sent that mail. > I received the reply to the first email on the same day. > Whew!!! Long back story. > > > So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard would > work with registered memory? > > > Thank you. > > > Regards > Bruce McDonald Hi Bruce, Yep, that board will support both ECC and nonECC DIMMS. Download the manual in PDF from: http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/a8v-deluxe/e1642_a8v_deluxe.pdf Enjoy your new machine :-) Rick Burns From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 23 19:56:23 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:56:23 -0700 Subject: Printer Installation & Printing on redhat In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040923201616.021906e0@alex> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040921200408.022189d8@alex> <4150A144.6060100@vitalstream.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040923201616.021906e0@alex> Message-ID: <41532A67.10706@vitalstream.com> Larrys Account wrote: > Thanks very much for this comprehensive reply Rick. > > I guess I'll start by upgrading to a newer version of redhat. Do you > know if it's possible to upgrade to Fedora Core directly, or do I have > to take a complete backup and do a complete re-install ? > > Cheers > Larry > > At 22:46 21/09/2004, you wrote: > >> Larrys Account wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know anything about this ? Have I got the wrong mailing >>> list ? Could someone tell me where I might be able to get hold of >>> this information ? >> >> >> We'll try. >> >>> Hi >> >> >> Hi, yourself! :-) >> >>> I've just got an Epson stylus C66 printer and I'm trying to set it up >>> as a local printer. >>> I'm using red-hat 8, kernel version 2.4.18-14. >> >> >> First, RH8.0 is TOTALLY discontinued (not even Fedora Legacy will >> provide updates any longer). Fedora Core 1 has been moved to legacy >> now, since FC3 test 2 has been released. So, Fedora Legacy is providing >> updates for RH7.3, RH9 and FC1. The Fedora Project is supporting FC2. >> As a result, I have to recommend you upgrade to Red Hat 9 or one of the >> Fedora Core releases ASAP. Believe me, FC2 is worth it. And the >> fedora-list is a _very_ active support group. >> >>> I would like to use CUPS as my printing system and the printer uses a >>> USB port. >>> I have the usb-uhci usb driver installed. >>> /sbin/lsmod | grep usb gives: >>> usb-uhci 26188 0 (unused) >>> usbcore 77024 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] >>> I've tried to add the printer using the Printer configuration too >>> (System Settings->Printing) using the following entries: >>> Queue name: epsonC66 >>> printer device: /dev/usb/lp0 >>> driver: Epson->Stylus C60->gimp-print(*) >>> But when I do a Test print I get a dialog with the message: >>> There was an error trying to print the test page. >>> Could someone help me with how to go about troubleshooting this. >>> I don't really know anything about the printing process, so I'm not >>> sure exactly what components are involved and therefore what >>> components I need. >>> From what I've read I need to have some sort of spooling software >>> daemon (I'm wanting to use cups - I'm currently using one that came >>> with redhat), a filter that can translate the print job data into >>> printer commands (apparently a filter, foomatic, is used with CUPS) >>> and a driver that is compatible with the printer (gimp-print, I think >>> should work). >>> I have a few questions (listed below) that have come up while I've >>> been trying to get printing to work. Does anyone has any answers, or >>> can tell me where I can start looking to get the information ... ? >>> 1) It seems the epson stylus C66 is not explicitly listed in >>> linuxprinting.org. This was an oversight on my part, having looked >>> and thought that all the C6* series were listed. My searches over the >>> internet, however, have suggested that the C66 works using >>> gimp-print. Am I correct in that assumption or is it not possible to >>> use C66 with linux ? >> >> >> I think it works, but I can't be certain since it's not explicitly >> stated. >> >>> 2) Could anyone tell me how CUPS, foomatic and the gimp-print driver >>> fit together. Am I likely to need to install new versions of them ? >>> And if so: >>> Where are they located on redhat ? >>> How to I find out what versions I have ? >>> Where can I get compatible versions from with instructions on how >>> to install them ? >> >> >> CUPS is the overall system. It's made up of a number of programs, >> lpq-cups, lpd-cups, lpstat-cups, etc. CUPS uses foomatic to actually >> talk to the printers, and foomatic uses PPD files to define how the >> printers work. >> >>> 3) The CUPS documentation talks about PPD files that describe the >>> capabilities of the printer. Where are these stored under redhat and >>> where might I be able to get hold of one for the C66 ? >> >> >> The PPD files for your installed printers will be located in >> /etc/cups/ppd. I can tell you now that the C66 is not directly >> supported under either FC1 or FC2, so you may have to use the next best >> thing. There is support for the C60, C61, C62, C63 and C64, so you may >> have to try one of those drivers instead and see how it works. My guess >> is that the C64 driver will work, but don't quote me on that. >> >>> 4) Are there any log files I can look at that might give me some more >>> error information ? >> >> >> First, do an "lsusb" and make sure your printer is seen on the USB bus. >> You can also look at /var/log/messages to see if there are any error >> messages. The "dmesg" command may also be of some help. >> >> Again, I HIGHLY recommend you update your system to AT LEAST Red Hat 9, >> Fedora Core 2 would be even better. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >> - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >> - - >> - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Swap memory error: You lose your mind" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 23 20:08:27 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:08:27 -0700 Subject: Printer Installation & Printing on redhat In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040923201616.021906e0@alex> References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040921200408.022189d8@alex> <4150A144.6060100@vitalstream.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040923201616.021906e0@alex> Message-ID: <41532D3B.4080500@vitalstream.com> Larrys Account wrote: > Thanks very much for this comprehensive reply Rick. > > I guess I'll start by upgrading to a newer version of redhat. Do you > know if it's possible to upgrade to Fedora Core directly, or do I have > to take a complete backup and do a complete re-install ? Please ignore my last post...something fell on the mouse while the pointer was over "Send". Doh! You should always do a full backup before you do any upgrades. That's a given. You should be able to upgrade to FC1 or FC2 fairly easily, but the backup is your best friend. Just boot the first CD and select "Upgrade existing installation". Keep in mind that FC2 utilizes a different kernel structure than any previous Red Hat or Fedora release. FC2 uses a 2.6 kernel, all previous releases used a 2.2 (prior to RH7.1) or a 2.4 (7.2, 7.3, 8.0, 9, FC1, AS/ES 2.1, AS/ES/WS3) kernel. > At 22:46 21/09/2004, you wrote: > >> Larrys Account wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know anything about this ? Have I got the wrong mailing >>> list ? Could someone tell me where I might be able to get hold of >>> this information ? >> >> >> We'll try. >> >>> Hi >> >> >> Hi, yourself! :-) >> >>> I've just got an Epson stylus C66 printer and I'm trying to set it up >>> as a local printer. >>> I'm using red-hat 8, kernel version 2.4.18-14. >> >> >> First, RH8.0 is TOTALLY discontinued (not even Fedora Legacy will >> provide updates any longer). Fedora Core 1 has been moved to legacy >> now, since FC3 test 2 has been released. So, Fedora Legacy is providing >> updates for RH7.3, RH9 and FC1. The Fedora Project is supporting FC2. >> As a result, I have to recommend you upgrade to Red Hat 9 or one of the >> Fedora Core releases ASAP. Believe me, FC2 is worth it. And the >> fedora-list is a _very_ active support group. >> >>> I would like to use CUPS as my printing system and the printer uses a >>> USB port. >>> I have the usb-uhci usb driver installed. >>> /sbin/lsmod | grep usb gives: >>> usb-uhci 26188 0 (unused) >>> usbcore 77024 1 [printer hid usb-uhci] >>> I've tried to add the printer using the Printer configuration too >>> (System Settings->Printing) using the following entries: >>> Queue name: epsonC66 >>> printer device: /dev/usb/lp0 >>> driver: Epson->Stylus C60->gimp-print(*) >>> But when I do a Test print I get a dialog with the message: >>> There was an error trying to print the test page. >>> Could someone help me with how to go about troubleshooting this. >>> I don't really know anything about the printing process, so I'm not >>> sure exactly what components are involved and therefore what >>> components I need. >>> From what I've read I need to have some sort of spooling software >>> daemon (I'm wanting to use cups - I'm currently using one that came >>> with redhat), a filter that can translate the print job data into >>> printer commands (apparently a filter, foomatic, is used with CUPS) >>> and a driver that is compatible with the printer (gimp-print, I think >>> should work). >>> I have a few questions (listed below) that have come up while I've >>> been trying to get printing to work. Does anyone has any answers, or >>> can tell me where I can start looking to get the information ... ? >>> 1) It seems the epson stylus C66 is not explicitly listed in >>> linuxprinting.org. This was an oversight on my part, having looked >>> and thought that all the C6* series were listed. My searches over the >>> internet, however, have suggested that the C66 works using >>> gimp-print. Am I correct in that assumption or is it not possible to >>> use C66 with linux ? >> >> >> I think it works, but I can't be certain since it's not explicitly >> stated. >> >>> 2) Could anyone tell me how CUPS, foomatic and the gimp-print driver >>> fit together. Am I likely to need to install new versions of them ? >>> And if so: >>> Where are they located on redhat ? >>> How to I find out what versions I have ? >>> Where can I get compatible versions from with instructions on how >>> to install them ? >> >> >> CUPS is the overall system. It's made up of a number of programs, >> lpq-cups, lpd-cups, lpstat-cups, etc. CUPS uses foomatic to actually >> talk to the printers, and foomatic uses PPD files to define how the >> printers work. I sorta misspoke there. Actually, foomatic is the package that provides the PPD files that CUPS uses to speak to the printer. foomatic can also create PPD files from description files in XML as well as control the CUPS queues and such, but at a much more "geeky" level than CUPS does. >>> 3) The CUPS documentation talks about PPD files that describe the >>> capabilities of the printer. Where are these stored under redhat and >>> where might I be able to get hold of one for the C66 ? >> >> >> The PPD files for your installed printers will be located in >> /etc/cups/ppd. I can tell you now that the C66 is not directly >> supported under either FC1 or FC2, so you may have to use the next best >> thing. There is support for the C60, C61, C62, C63 and C64, so you may >> have to try one of those drivers instead and see how it works. My guess >> is that the C64 driver will work, but don't quote me on that. >> >>> 4) Are there any log files I can look at that might give me some more >>> error information ? >> >> >> First, do an "lsusb" and make sure your printer is seen on the USB bus. >> You can also look at /var/log/messages to see if there are any error >> messages. The "dmesg" command may also be of some help. >> >> Again, I HIGHLY recommend you update your system to AT LEAST Red Hat 9, >> Fedora Core 2 would be even better. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >> - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >> - - >> - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Swap memory error: You lose your mind" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 23 20:12:13 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:12:13 -0700 Subject: Redhat and wireless nics In-Reply-To: References: <20040923160027.AB5AE7399D@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <41532E1D.5090505@vitalstream.com> Tate Austin wrote: > Okay, I have a fedora core2 install and I got > madwifi(http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/) from their CVS repository > and installed it for my wireless nic. It worked just fine except that it > was at the other end of my house from the my 802.11b router, which has > limited range. So I got an 802.11g router. I can confirm it works with my > windows boxes, but suddenly I can't seem to get my wireless nic to pick up > the connection. I don't have WEP enabled, so there isn't any security to > prohibit the connection? My nic is a netgear 311T and my new router is a > Super G 108 wireless router. Does anyone out there have any relevant > experience? When you say "can't pick up the connection", what do you mean? Do you mean you're not getting an IP from the router or what? Can you do an "iwlist wlan0 scanning" and see the access point? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Microsoft is a cross between The Borg and the Ferengi. - - Unfortunately they use Borg to do their marketing and Ferengi to - - do their programming." -- Simon Slavin - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 23 20:12:49 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:12:49 -0700 Subject: Kickstart install In-Reply-To: <4152A785.1080805@uk.colt.net> References: <4152A785.1080805@uk.colt.net> Message-ID: <41532E41.6040008@vitalstream.com> Iain Conochie wrote: > Good Morning, > > I am attempting a kickstart installation using a ks.cfg file in the > root directory of the boot floppy. However, the installation program > silently ignores the ks.cfg file. If I specify ks=ks.cfg in the boot > command line then when the installer runs, i get the following error > message > > Cannot open kickstart file (null) > > No such file or directory > > How can I force the installer to see this file? The correct format is "ks=floppy" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sun Sep 26 05:09:06 2004 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 23:09:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: IPTABLES Time Limits Message-ID: <21683.198.60.114.90.1096175346.squirrel@198.60.114.90> I spent much of Friday night and today setting up my network preparatory to filtering. I installed a second NIC in my server, changed it's IP address to 10.0.0.1, which was my Cisco router's IP before the change. The Cisco is now 172.20.20.1 and the second NIC on my server is 172.20.20.2. I've looked at Squid and am overwhelmed, but have an iptables script that works just fine for IP traffic forwarding, so the network is functioning as it did before the change. I had to setup DHCP for an XP Pro PC that wasn't working. 2 questions: 1. I want to be able to give access to the internet during certain hours of the day for some PCs on the network and close down outbound access during after-hours and part of the weekend. Can I do these time restrictions? 2. what would the best method be of using NAT on the server. The Cisco already does NAT, but the parts of it that translate to the 10.0.0.0 network now fails. All the services that are translated to the server work fine. That's because it's on the same subnet as the Cisco (172.20.20.0). Topology of NAT look like this: 172.20.20.2 25 198.60.114.90 25 tcp < still works 172.20.20.2 80 198.60.114.90 80 tcp < still works 10.0.0.2 10001 198.60.114.90 10000 tcp < Webmin to another 'server' fails 10.0.0.20 5900 198.60.114.90 5900 tcp < VNC to a laptop fails I'm thinking that I would need to setup the Cisco to direct those ports to the server and then some iptables rules that redirect those ports to the internal IP addresses. Help? -- Karl Pearson karlp at ourldsfamily.com http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com http://emailgroups.ourldsfamily.com If you don't think the dead come back to life, Be here at quitting time -- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml -- A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. -- Ramsey Clark From gnichols at tpg.com.au Sun Sep 26 05:30:32 2004 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 15:30:32 +1000 Subject: Lost sound after upgrade to Kernel 2.6.8-1.521 Message-ID: <1096176632.4039.11.camel@barney.localdomain> Hello Folks, After upgrading to kernel 2.6.8-1.521 from 2.6.6 I have lost sound. The sound card is recognised as 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller. Module snd-intel8x0. The test sound plays OK, the Volume Control has the volume set to high but no sound from the CD player. The output of lspci is as follows: [graeme at barney graeme]$ /sbin/lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02)00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02)00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02)00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02)00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB/ER Hub interface to PCI Bridge (rev c2) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 NJ [Radeon 9800 XT] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 NJ [Radeon 9800 XT] (Secondary) 02:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation: Unknown device 3886 (rev 01) 02:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 (rev 01) 02:04.0 Communication controller: Intel Corp. 536EP Data Fax Modem 02:09.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105 [Rhine-III] (rev 8b) 02:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46) [graeme at barney graeme]$ The output of lspci -v is as follows: [graeme at barney graeme]$ /sbin/lspci -v 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) Subsystem: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) Capabilities: 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 64 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: 0000a000-0000afff Memory behind bridge: f8000000-f9ffffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e8000000-f7ffffff Expansion ROM at 0000a000 [disabled] [size=4K] 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 I/O ports at cc00 [size=32] 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9 I/O ports at c000 [size=32] 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9 I/O ports at c400 [size=32] 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 I/O ports at c800 [size=32] 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 Memory at fa800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB/ER Hub interface to PCI Bridge (rev c2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff Memory behind bridge: fa000000-fa7fffff 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 Storage Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 9 I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at I/O ports at f000 [size=16] Memory at 20000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5 I/O ports at 0500 [size=32] 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 0480 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 I/O ports at d400 I/O ports at d800 [size=64] Memory at fa801000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] Memory at fa802000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 NJ [Radeon 9800 XT] (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd.: Unknown device 9560 Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) I/O ports at a000 [size=256] Memory at f9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Capabilities: 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 NJ [Radeon 9800 XT] (Secondary) Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd.: Unknown device 9561 Flags: stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [disabled] Memory at f9010000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation: Unknown device 3886 (rev 01) Subsystem: Unknown device 17cf:0036 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 80, IRQ 10 Memory at fa400000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: 02:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134 (rev 01) Subsystem: Creatix Polymedia GmbH: Unknown device 0003 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 9 Memory at fa402000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: 02:04.0 Communication controller: Intel Corp. 536EP Data Fax Modem Subsystem: Creatix Polymedia GmbH V.9X DSP Data Fax Modem Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: 02:09.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105 [Rhine-III] (rev 8b) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 048c Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11 I/O ports at b000 Memory at fa403000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: 02:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 048d Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 Memory at fa404000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) I/O ports at b400 [size=128] Capabilities: [graeme at barney graeme]$ The output of lsmod is as follows: [graeme at barney graeme]$ /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by snd_pcm_oss 43129 0 snd_mixer_oss 14017 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_intel8x0 30829 1 snd_ac97_codec 58821 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm 83529 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0 snd_timer 25413 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 8393 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm gameport 4033 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_mpu401_uart 7361 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi 21733 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 6473 1 snd_rawmidi snd 45477 9 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 7713 2 snd md5 3905 1 ipv6 217349 10 parport_pc 21249 1 lp 9133 0 parport 35977 2 parport_pc,lp autofs4 20677 0 sunrpc 141861 1 prism54 44513 0 ipt_REJECT 5057 1 ipt_state 1857 2 ip_conntrack 25569 1 ipt_state iptable_filter 2369 1 ip_tables 13889 3 ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_filter via_rhine 19273 0 mii 3777 1 via_rhine microcode 5601 0 joydev 7169 0 floppy 54001 0 sg 28513 0 sd_mod 17473 0 usb_storage 58121 0 scsi_mod 105360 3 sg,sd_mod,usb_storage dm_mod 47317 0 ehci_hcd 27973 0 uhci_hcd 28505 0 button 4825 0 battery 7117 0 asus_acpi 9177 0 ac 3533 0 ext3 96937 2 jbd 66521 1 ext3 [graeme at barney graeme]$ ALSA is installed I believe as there are the following dirs. /usr/include/alsa /usr/share/alsa but I amnot able to /etc/init.d/alsa[sound] start. It responds with 'No such file or directory' Sound was working just fine until the upgrade to kernel 2.6.8. Can anybody point me in the right direction please? OS is FC2. Ta. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme Nichols. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Most people feel that everyone is entitled to their opinion. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fab at s-tunnel.com Sun Sep 26 17:11:07 2004 From: fab at s-tunnel.com (Alexey Fadyushin) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 21:11:07 +0400 Subject: IPTABLES Time Limits In-Reply-To: <21683.198.60.114.90.1096175346.squirrel@198.60.114.90> References: <21683.198.60.114.90.1096175346.squirrel@198.60.114.90> Message-ID: <4156F82B.2020704@s-tunnel.com> I think that the easiest way to use time dependent iptables configuration is to prepare several configuration files and restart iptables from a cron job placing the configuration file which shold be used at that time in /etc/sysconfig/iptables. To redirect packets sent to/from specific ports on the server in your internal network you should use PREROUTING and POSTROUTING chains in the NAT table. For example: -A PREROUTING -d 172.20.20.20 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1234 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.0.1 -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.1 -p tcp -m tcp --sport 1234 -j SNAT --to-source 172.20.20.20 should redirect any packets sent to the TCP port 1234 at the address 172.20.20.20 (the external address of your router, Cisco should redirect packets to this address) to the same port on the computer 10.0.0.1 (in the internal network). The second line processes the packets flowing on that connection in reverse direction. Alexey Fadyushin Brainbench MVP for Linux. http://www.brainbench.com karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > I spent much of Friday night and today setting up my network preparatory > to filtering. > > I installed a second NIC in my server, changed it's IP address to > 10.0.0.1, which was my Cisco router's IP before the change. The Cisco is > now 172.20.20.1 and the second NIC on my server is 172.20.20.2. > > I've looked at Squid and am overwhelmed, but have an iptables script that > works just fine for IP traffic forwarding, so the network is functioning > as it did before the change. I had to setup DHCP for an XP Pro PC that > wasn't working. > > 2 questions: > > 1. I want to be able to give access to the internet during certain hours > of the day for some PCs on the network and close down outbound access > during after-hours and part of the weekend. Can I do these time > restrictions? > > 2. what would the best method be of using NAT on the server. The Cisco > already does NAT, but the parts of it that translate to the 10.0.0.0 > network now fails. All the services that are translated to the server work > fine. That's because it's on the same subnet as the Cisco (172.20.20.0). > > Topology of NAT look like this: > > 172.20.20.2 25 198.60.114.90 25 tcp < still works > 172.20.20.2 80 198.60.114.90 80 tcp < still works > > 10.0.0.2 10001 198.60.114.90 10000 tcp < Webmin to another 'server' fails > 10.0.0.20 5900 198.60.114.90 5900 tcp < VNC to a laptop fails > > I'm thinking that I would need to setup the Cisco to direct those ports to > the server and then some iptables rules that redirect those ports to the > internal IP addresses. > > Help? > > -- > Karl Pearson > karlp at ourldsfamily.com > http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com > http://emailgroups.ourldsfamily.com > If you don't think the dead come back to life, Be here at quitting time > -- > My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml > -- > A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. > -- Ramsey Clark > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca Sun Sep 26 18:24:31 2004 From: chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca (Chris A Czerwinski) Date: 26 Sep 2004 14:24:31 -0400 Subject: Changing CDRom to CD-ReWriable Recoder Message-ID: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> Fellow Red Hatters, I wish to change my present TOSHIBA - CDROM to SONY's - CD-ReWritable Recorder My present OS is RedHat 9. If I were to swap my CDRom and exchange for the CDRW and when I reboot the PC - Will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware? Or will I have to Uninstall my TOSHIBA - CD-ROM, shut down the PC and then do the swap and will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware. What other things am I to do when before swapping CDROM's Chris Cz (still a newbie) From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Sep 26 19:12:30 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:12:30 -0500 Subject: Changing CDRom to CD-ReWriable Recoder In-Reply-To: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> References: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> Message-ID: <20040926191230.GA14742@bobcat.cumbytel.com> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:24:31PM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > Fellow Red Hatters, > > I wish to change my present TOSHIBA - CDROM > to SONY's - CD-ReWritable Recorder > My present OS is RedHat 9. > > If I were to swap my CDRom and exchange for the CDRW and > when I reboot the PC - Will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware? It probably will. > Or will I have to Uninstall my TOSHIBA - CD-ROM, shut down the PC and > then do the swap and will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware. No. It will likely recognize that the Toshiba is gone and ask if it may "unconfigure" it, before it asks to let it "configure" the Sony. > What other things am I to do when before swapping CDROM's Not much of anything that I know of aside from Reading The Fine Manual http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/getting-started-guide/ especially Chapter 4. > Chris Cz (still a newbie) Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Mon Sep 27 02:59:13 2004 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:59:13 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: <41531A81.8010302@mchsi.com> Message-ID: Hello Eric On 23-Sep-04, you wrote: > Hi Bruce, > Yep, that board will support both ECC and nonECC DIMMS. > Download the manual in PDF from: > http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/a8v-deluxe/e1642_a8v_deluxe.pdf > Enjoy your new machine :-) > Rick Burns Thank you for that info, I never saw where to get to the documents. Regards, Bruce McDonald From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Mon Sep 27 03:12:09 2004 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 19:12:09 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: <415317CE.5080709@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hello Rick On 23-Sep-04, you wrote: >> So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard would >> work with registered memory? > I'm not certain if it will or not. I'm not using registered memory in > mine and the system seems quite happy. I'd suggest trying non- > registered, name-brand RAM (Kingston, etc.) first. If you have > problems, THEN think about the registered stuff. Why spend money you > don't need to? Just make sure you can return the regular RAM if it > doesn't work. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I figure that some of the problems I am having with my windows box (the current one) could be due to memory problems. I was thinking that maybe registered memory would alleviate those. Of course, it could be solved with XP. I don't think I would have worried about it if the machine was only going to run Linux. Maybe I will try it your suggested way and save some money. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards, Bruce McDonald From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Sep 27 18:29:36 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:29:36 -0700 Subject: IPTABLES Time Limits In-Reply-To: <21683.198.60.114.90.1096175346.squirrel@198.60.114.90> References: <21683.198.60.114.90.1096175346.squirrel@198.60.114.90> Message-ID: <41585C10.5060407@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > I spent much of Friday night and today setting up my network preparatory > to filtering. > > I installed a second NIC in my server, changed it's IP address to > 10.0.0.1, which was my Cisco router's IP before the change. The Cisco is > now 172.20.20.1 and the second NIC on my server is 172.20.20.2. > > I've looked at Squid and am overwhelmed, but have an iptables script that > works just fine for IP traffic forwarding, so the network is functioning > as it did before the change. I had to setup DHCP for an XP Pro PC that > wasn't working. > > 2 questions: > > 1. I want to be able to give access to the internet during certain hours > of the day for some PCs on the network and close down outbound access > during after-hours and part of the weekend. Can I do these time > restrictions? That would need to be done via a cron job that changes the iptables configuration. iptables, by itself, has no concept of clock time. > 2. what would the best method be of using NAT on the server. The Cisco > already does NAT, but the parts of it that translate to the 10.0.0.0 > network now fails. All the services that are translated to the server work > fine. That's because it's on the same subnet as the Cisco (172.20.20.0). > > Topology of NAT look like this: > > 172.20.20.2 25 198.60.114.90 25 tcp < still works > 172.20.20.2 80 198.60.114.90 80 tcp < still works > > 10.0.0.2 10001 198.60.114.90 10000 tcp < Webmin to another 'server' fails > 10.0.0.20 5900 198.60.114.90 5900 tcp < VNC to a laptop fails > > I'm thinking that I would need to setup the Cisco to direct those ports to > the server and then some iptables rules that redirect those ports to the > internal IP addresses. You didn't show us the topology of the network itself. If you're on a cable modem, the WAN (cable) side is some IP from your ISP (generally DHCPd), the LAN side is 192.168.100.1 or something of that nature and the cable modem does NAT between the two sides (actually, most cable modems use 192.168.100.0/24 on the LAN side). Your router's WAN side connects to the cable modem's LAN port and would have an address on the cable modem's LAN side, 192.168.100.2 in the above example). The router's LAN side would be something like 10.24.0.0/16, and all of your other devices on the LAN side must be on the 10.24.0.0/16 network. The router also does NAT between 10.24.0.0/16 and 192.168.100.2. Generally, the router also has a firewall and supports NTP so you can set up time-based access limits (I know the D-Link and Linksys units do). If you're trying to subdivide the 10.24.0.0/16 (router LAN side) into yet another network (172.20.20.N) by using the Linux box as a router/NAT, then you have some figuring to do. Personally, I wouldn't do it. Unless you have some specific reasons to segment your network as you are, you're better off just having a monolithic LAN (10.24.0.0/16) on the LAN side of the router. Use the router's firewall and NAT rules to do your dirty work. You'll find it's easier to manage a single network segment rather than a bunch of them. Remember, this is coming from a guy who manages several /19 and /22 network segments with VLANs and lots of other stuff (we have 8 Cisco GRX [12000-series] routers and who peer with Wiltel, Level 3 and several other tier-1 Internet providers). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Sep 27 18:32:59 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:32:59 -0700 Subject: Building a new computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41585CDB.40405@vitalstream.com> Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello Rick > > On 23-Sep-04, you wrote: > > > >>>So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard would >>>work with registered memory? > > >>I'm not certain if it will or not. I'm not using registered memory in >>mine and the system seems quite happy. I'd suggest trying non- >>registered, name-brand RAM (Kingston, etc.) first. If you have >>problems, THEN think about the registered stuff. Why spend money you >>don't need to? Just make sure you can return the regular RAM if it >>doesn't work. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I figure that some of the problems I am having with my windows box (the > current one) could be due to memory problems. I was thinking that maybe > registered memory would alleviate those. Of course, it could be solved > with XP. I don't think I would have worried about it if the machine was > only going to run Linux. > > Maybe I will try it your suggested way and save some money. > Thanks for the suggestion. First things first, Bruce. Boot the first CD in the Fedora set and run memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good. By the way, the Opteron motherboard I have is the Asus K8V-SE, not the A8V. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... - - ...once. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca Mon Sep 27 19:04:29 2004 From: chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca (Chris A Czerwinski) Date: 27 Sep 2004 15:04:29 -0400 Subject: Changing CDRom to CD-ReWriable Recoder In-Reply-To: <20040926191230.GA14742@bobcat.cumbytel.com> References: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> <20040926191230.GA14742@bobcat.cumbytel.com> Message-ID: <1096311868.3180.11.camel@redhat90> On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 15:12, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:24:31PM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > > Fellow Red Hatters, > > > > I wish to change my present TOSHIBA - CDROM > > to SONY's - CD-ReWritable Recorder > > My present OS is RedHat 9. > > > > If I were to swap my CDRom and exchange for the CDRW and > > when I reboot the PC - Will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware? > > It probably will. ** It did not!!! > > > Or will I have to Uninstall my TOSHIBA - CD-ROM, shut down the PC and > > then do the swap and will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware. > > No. It will likely recognize that the Toshiba is gone and ask if it > may "unconfigure" it, before it asks to let it "configure" the Sony. > ** This did not happen either!!! > > What other things am I to do when before swapping CDROM's > > Not much of anything that I know of aside from Reading The Fine Manual > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/getting-started-guide/ > > especially Chapter 4. > > > Chris Cz (still a newbie) > > Cheers, Following the Manual... When I open Gnome -> System Tools -> more System Tools -> CD Writer it opens with GnomeToaster 1.0Beta6 which I am not familiar with. In Terminal Session and as root # rpm -q xcdroast replies with "not installed" # rpm -q cdrecord replies with cdrecord-2.0-11.9.1 # cdrecord -scanbus complains cannot open '/dev/pg Cannot open SCSI driver and dies When I put a CD into the SONY CDRW, it comes alive and displays on my desktop the contents of my CD which I then can Eject I want to know what is my next step so I can Write to it. Chris Cz (still a newbie) From kens at geodax.com Mon Sep 27 19:15:49 2004 From: kens at geodax.com (Ken Scott) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:15:49 -0400 Subject: Changing CDRom to CD-ReWriable Recoder In-Reply-To: <1096311868.3180.11.camel@redhat90> References: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> <20040926191230.GA14742@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <1096311868.3180.11.camel@redhat90> Message-ID: <1096312549.3767.20.camel@KENS02L> John, Greetings! I was wondering who the best guy is in Enterprise Real Estate to forward the intermediate drawings for Greensboro to as well as the Gantt chart showing constraints, task order and interrelationships (i am almost done with that). Would Ken Douglas be the correct guy or would you recommend someone else. Thanks Ken On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 15:04, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 15:12, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:24:31PM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > > > Fellow Red Hatters, > > > > > > I wish to change my present TOSHIBA - CDROM > > > to SONY's - CD-ReWritable Recorder > > > My present OS is RedHat 9. > > > > > > If I were to swap my CDRom and exchange for the CDRW and > > > when I reboot the PC - Will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware? > > > > It probably will. > > ** It did not!!! > > > > > > Or will I have to Uninstall my TOSHIBA - CD-ROM, shut down the PC and > > > then do the swap and will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware. > > > > No. It will likely recognize that the Toshiba is gone and ask if it > > may "unconfigure" it, before it asks to let it "configure" the Sony. > > > > ** This did not happen either!!! > > > > What other things am I to do when before swapping CDROM's > > > > Not much of anything that I know of aside from Reading The Fine Manual > > > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/getting-started-guide/ > > > > especially Chapter 4. > > > > > Chris Cz (still a newbie) > > > > Cheers, > > Following the Manual... > > When I open Gnome -> System Tools -> more System Tools -> CD Writer > it opens with GnomeToaster 1.0Beta6 > which I am not familiar with. > > In Terminal Session and as root > > # rpm -q xcdroast > replies with "not installed" > # rpm -q cdrecord > replies with cdrecord-2.0-11.9.1 > # cdrecord -scanbus > complains cannot open '/dev/pg Cannot open SCSI driver and dies > > When I put a CD into the SONY CDRW, it comes alive and > displays on my desktop the contents of my CD which I then can Eject > > I want to know what is my next step so I can Write to it. > > Chris Cz (still a newbie) > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Sep 27 19:45:44 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:45:44 -0500 Subject: Changing CDRom to CD-ReWriable Recoder In-Reply-To: <1096311868.3180.11.camel@redhat90> References: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> <20040926191230.GA14742@bobcat.cumbytel.com> <1096311868.3180.11.camel@redhat90> Message-ID: <20040927194544.GA2938@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:04:29PM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 15:12, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 02:24:31PM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > > > Fellow Red Hatters, > > > > > > I wish to change my present TOSHIBA - CDROM > > > to SONY's - CD-ReWritable Recorder > > > My present OS is RedHat 9. > > > > > > If I were to swap my CDRom and exchange for the CDRW and > > > when I reboot the PC - Will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware? > > > > It probably will. > > ** It did not!!! Sorry. > > > > > Or will I have to Uninstall my TOSHIBA - CD-ROM, shut down the PC and > > > then do the swap and will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware. > > > > No. It will likely recognize that the Toshiba is gone and ask if it > > may "unconfigure" it, before it asks to let it "configure" the Sony. > > > > ** This did not happen either!!! What can I say? > > > What other things am I to do when before swapping CDROM's > > > > Not much of anything that I know of aside from Reading The Fine Manual > > > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/getting-started-guide/ > > > > especially Chapter 4. > > > > > Chris Cz (still a newbie) > > > > Cheers, > > Following the Manual... > > When I open Gnome -> System Tools -> more System Tools -> CD Writer > it opens with GnomeToaster 1.0Beta6 > which I am not familiar with. > > In Terminal Session and as root > > # rpm -q xcdroast > replies with "not installed" Install it from CD #3. > # rpm -q cdrecord > replies with cdrecord-2.0-11.9.1 > # cdrecord -scanbus > complains cannot open '/dev/pg Cannot open SCSI driver and dies > > When I put a CD into the SONY CDRW, it comes alive and > displays on my desktop the contents of my CD which I then can Eject > > I want to know what is my next step so I can Write to it. > > Chris Cz (still a newbie) Assuming you are using GRUB, edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and add to the end of the kernel line: hdb=ide-scsi Change "hdb" to whatever device your Sony is. For more info, see http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html If that doesn't get you going, then I pass the baton to Rick Stevens. I've yet to own a CDR, much less a CDRW. So I'm a relic. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Mon Sep 27 22:11:04 2004 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 01:11:04 +0300 Subject: Changing CDRom to CD-ReWriable Recoder In-Reply-To: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> References: <1096223070.2527.10.camel@redhat90> Message-ID: <41588FF8.4050705@cha.forthnet.gr> Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > Fellow Red Hatters, > > I wish to change my present TOSHIBA - CDROM > to SONY's - CD-ReWritable Recorder > My present OS is RedHat 9. > > If I were to swap my CDRom and exchange for the CDRW and > when I reboot the PC - Will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware? > > Or will I have to Uninstall my TOSHIBA - CD-ROM, shut down the PC and > then do the swap and will KUDZU prompt me for new hardware. > > What other things am I to do when before swapping CDROM's > > Chris Cz (still a newbie) Apart from enabling the ide-scsi emulation , which Bob McClure suggesting in his last posting there is pretty much of anything that you have to do . Both CD ROM drives and CD Recorders are ATAPI devices , so kudzu will not prompt you for a change of hardware since as far as he ( kudzu ) is concerned there was no change . You simply swapped ATAPI devices , even if you change the CD ROM drive with a DVD ROM drive , nothing much will happen. So simply after you make the hardware change , read the man page of mkisofs ( this makes the iso files ) and then the man page of cdrecord ( this writes the iso files created by mkisofs ) and that's all that it is . Kind Regards, Kostas From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Sep 27 22:50:29 2004 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:50:29 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Obviously I have some things to learn about grub. (Again, alas...) ;-) Here's my setup: 1) The machine's 80GB drive came with Win XP Pro 2) I resized /dev/hda1 using System Commander 7 (installed) to 30GB 3) Using System Commander I made a 30GB Extended partition (/dev/hda2) to install Linux 4) Using SC7 I moved this partition up to the top of the drive. The drive now looked like 30GB(NTSF), 20GB free, 30GB extended 5) I installed Linux by making 3 partitions within the extended partition - /dev/hda5 - 50MB - /boot - /dev/hda6 - 1GB - swap - /dev/hda7 - Approx. 30 for / 6) I added a 5GB FAT32 partition just above the NTFS partition. (/dev/hda3) 7) Linux was installed and ran for 6 months. The disk looked like this ASCII art: <-- 30GB ext3 --> [ | ] <-- 1GB Swap --> [ Extended] /dev/hda2 <-- 50MB ext2 --> [ | ] FREE SPACE (15GB) <-- 5GB FAT32 --> <--30GB NTFS --> A couple of days ago, getting ready to add a Fedora Core boot to the mix I did a couple of things: 8) Using System Commander 8.1 I enlarged the Extended partition to cover 50GB. I rebooted the machine a couple of times. No problems. 9) Using System Commander 8.1 I moved /dev/hda5 down to the bottom of the Extended partition, and I moved the swap partition down also. I rebooted a couple of times. No problem. 10 Today I moved the 30GB hda7 partition downward to just above the swap space. When I went to reboot the machine came up lame. Grub just says GRUB and quits. I'm confused about this. 1) I thought grub was in /dev/hda5. /dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why did moving hda7 make any difference at all? 2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? I've loaded Knoppix and all the partitions are there. They are in teh same order they were in before. All the data appears top still be there, although you cannot see grub so that part I'm not sure about. Guru level guidance warmly appreciated. thanks, Mark From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 00:03:09 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:03:09 -0500 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:50:29PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > Obviously I have some things to learn about grub. (Again, alas...) ;-) > > Here's my setup: > > 1) The machine's 80GB drive came with Win XP Pro > 2) I resized /dev/hda1 using System Commander 7 (installed) to 30GB > 3) Using System Commander I made a 30GB Extended partition (/dev/hda2) > to install Linux > 4) Using SC7 I moved this partition up to the top of the drive. The > drive now looked like 30GB(NTSF), 20GB free, 30GB extended > 5) I installed Linux by making 3 partitions within the extended partition > - /dev/hda5 - 50MB - /boot > - /dev/hda6 - 1GB - swap > - /dev/hda7 - Approx. 30 for / > 6) I added a 5GB FAT32 partition just above the NTFS partition. (/dev/hda3) > 7) Linux was installed and ran for 6 months. The disk looked like this > ASCII art: > > <-- 30GB ext3 --> [ | ] > <-- 1GB Swap --> [ Extended] /dev/hda2 > <-- 50MB ext2 --> [ | ] > FREE SPACE (15GB) > <-- 5GB FAT32 --> > <--30GB NTFS --> > > A couple of days ago, getting ready to add a Fedora Core boot to the > mix I did a couple of things: > > 8) Using System Commander 8.1 I enlarged the Extended partition to > cover 50GB. I rebooted the machine a couple of times. No problems. > > 9) Using System Commander 8.1 I moved /dev/hda5 down to the bottom of > the Extended partition, and I moved the swap partition down also. I > rebooted a couple of times. No problem. > > 10 Today I moved the 30GB hda7 partition downward to just above the > swap space. When I went to reboot the machine came up lame. Grub just > says GRUB and quits. > > I'm confused about this. > > 1) I thought grub was in /dev/hda5. grub.conf is. > /dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. I think that's irrelevant to GRUB. Only your BIOS cares about that. > The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why > did moving hda7 make any difference at all? I don't know. Rick probably does. > 2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? I'd say to boot with your distro disk #1 into rescue mode, let it mount your system on /mnt/sysimage, pop out the CD, and then chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/hda exit exit That should fix it. > I've loaded Knoppix and all the partitions are there. They are in teh > same order they were in before. All the data appears top still be > there, although you cannot see grub so that part I'm not sure about. > > Guru level guidance warmly appreciated. I don't qualify. Sorry. But let us know if that works. I'm still learning. > thanks, > Mark Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 00:25:00 2004 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:25:00 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> > > I'm confused about this. > > > > 1) I thought grub was in /dev/hda5. > > grub.conf is. OK, I now see Imissed on important piece of info. SC7 was installed in the MBR, and grub was installed (I think) on hda5. The boot process is to boot SC7, and then from SC7 choose Windows or Linux. If Linux, then it jumps to grub and I get the grub choices. > > > /dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. > > I think that's irrelevant to GRUB. Only your BIOS cares about that. > > > The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why > > did moving hda7 make any difference at all? > > I don't know. Rick probably does. > > > 2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? > > I'd say to boot with your distro disk #1 into rescue mode, let it > mount your system on /mnt/sysimage, pop out the CD, and then > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > grub-install /dev/hda This, I think, would put grub in the MBR, wouldn't it? If so that's not what I want to do, or at least I think I don't. I still want to boot SC7 first. How about grub-install /dev/hda5? (Or should it be hda7 since that's the partition that caused the problem when I moved it. That'swhat I'm confused about. What did grub really put on /dev/hda7? Or possibly grub really is on /dev/hda5, which moved successfully, but then moving hda7 caused grb to get confused? Does grub look at the actual location that the root partition exists at, or does it just use the partition number. (What I thought...) > exit > exit > > That should fix it. > > > I've loaded Knoppix and all the partitions are there. They are in teh > > same order they were in before. All the data appears top still be > > there, although you cannot see grub so that part I'm not sure about. > > > > Guru level guidance warmly appreciated. > > I don't qualify. Sorry. But let us know if that works. I'm still > learning. > > > thanks, > > Mark > > Cheers, Thanks Bob! From David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com Tue Sep 28 00:32:33 2004 From: David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com (David Mackintosh) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:32:33 -0400 Subject: Single Process Memory Limits Message-ID: <20040928003233.GB5874@xdroop.com> Hello, I'm trying to find a definitive answer to this question: What is the maximum amount of total userspace memory that a single process can allocate? Here's what I think I've learned: - with standard kernels, the limit is about 2GB. - with 'bigmem' kernels, the limit is about 3GB. This is actually 4GB, but 1GB is reserved by the kernel for stack etc. For the sake of standardization, let's say that the kernels in question are the standard uniprocessor kernel and bigmem kernels which shipped with stock RedHat 8.0. Anyone know where I can find a reasonably straight-forward answer to this question? Thanks. -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | Public Key: dave at xdroop.com | http://www.xdroop.com/dave/gpg.html $ gpg --recv-keys --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 4C032504 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 01:58:34 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:58:34 -0500 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 05:25:00PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > I'm confused about this. > > > > > > 1) I thought grub was in /dev/hda5. > > > > grub.conf is. > > OK, I now see Imissed on important piece of info. SC7 was installed in > the MBR, and grub was installed (I think) on hda5. The boot process is > to boot SC7, and then from SC7 choose Windows or Linux. If Linux, then > it jumps to grub and I get the grub choices. I figured you'd have to complicate things. :-) > > > /dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. > > > > I think that's irrelevant to GRUB. Only your BIOS cares about that. > > > > > The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why > > > did moving hda7 make any difference at all? > > > > I don't know. Rick probably does. > > > > > 2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? > > > > I'd say to boot with your distro disk #1 into rescue mode, let it > > mount your system on /mnt/sysimage, pop out the CD, and then > > > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > > grub-install /dev/hda > > This, I think, would put grub in the MBR, wouldn't it? Yes. I've seen precious few reasons not to. Yours may be one. > If so that's > not what I want to do, or at least I think I don't. I still want to > boot SC7 first. How about > > grub-install /dev/hda5? (Or should it be hda7 since that's the > partition that caused the problem when I moved it. That'swhat I'm > confused about. What did grub really put on /dev/hda7? > > Or possibly grub really is on /dev/hda5, which moved successfully, but > then moving hda7 caused grb to get confused? Does grub look at the > actual location that the root partition exists at, or does it just use > the partition number. (What I thought...) That's beyond my level of expertise. Rick Stevens can chime in here. The most important thing I can guess is that GRUB should be installed on whichever partition is marked bootable. (Yeah, now it matters, I think.) I still can't say which partition it should be. The Fine Manual http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-grub-installing.html addresses only installing to the MBR. But by extrapolating from the rest of the documentation, if I had to bet, I'd say install to the partition that is mounted on /boot. IIRC, that makes it /dev/hda5, and that correlates with everything else you've said. > > exit > > exit > > > > That should fix it. > > > > > I've loaded Knoppix and all the partitions are there. They are in teh > > > same order they were in before. All the data appears top still be > > > there, although you cannot see grub so that part I'm not sure about. > > > > > > Guru level guidance warmly appreciated. > > > > I don't qualify. Sorry. But let us know if that works. I'm still > > learning. > > > > > thanks, > > > Mark > > > > Cheers, > > Thanks Bob! Hope that helps. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Tue Sep 28 02:37:43 2004 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:37:43 -0500 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <004401c4a504$26a8b7a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:59 PM > To: Mark Knecht; Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 05:25:00PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > I'm confused about this. > > > > > > > > 1) I thought grub was in /dev/hda5. > > > > > > grub.conf is. > > > > OK, I now see Imissed on important piece of info. SC7 was installed in > > the MBR, and grub was installed (I think) on hda5. The boot process is > > to boot SC7, and then from SC7 choose Windows or Linux. If Linux, then > > it jumps to grub and I get the grub choices. > > I figured you'd have to complicate things. :-) > > > > > /dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. > > > > > > I think that's irrelevant to GRUB. Only your BIOS cares about that. > > > > > > > The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why > > > > did moving hda7 make any difference at all? > > > > > > I don't know. Rick probably does. > > > > > > > 2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? > > > > > > I'd say to boot with your distro disk #1 into rescue mode, let it > > > mount your system on /mnt/sysimage, pop out the CD, and then > > > > > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > > > grub-install /dev/hda > > > > This, I think, would put grub in the MBR, wouldn't it? > > Yes. I've seen precious few reasons not to. Yours may be one. > > > If so that's > > not what I want to do, or at least I think I don't. I still want to > > boot SC7 first. How about > > > > grub-install /dev/hda5? (Or should it be hda7 since that's the > > partition that caused the problem when I moved it. That'swhat I'm > > confused about. What did grub really put on /dev/hda7? > > > > Or possibly grub really is on /dev/hda5, which moved successfully, but > > then moving hda7 caused grb to get confused? Does grub look at the > > actual location that the root partition exists at, or does it just use > > the partition number. (What I thought...) > > That's beyond my level of expertise. Rick Stevens can chime in here. > The most important thing I can guess is that GRUB should be installed > on whichever partition is marked bootable. (Yeah, now it matters, I > think.) I still can't say which partition it should be. The Fine > Manual > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-grub- > installing.html > > addresses only installing to the MBR. But by extrapolating from the > rest of the documentation, if I had to bet, I'd say install to the > partition that is mounted on /boot. IIRC, that makes it /dev/hda5, > and that correlates with everything else you've said. > > > > exit > > > exit > > > > > > That should fix it. > > > > > > > I've loaded Knoppix and all the partitions are there. They are in > teh > > > > same order they were in before. All the data appears top still be > > > > there, although you cannot see grub so that part I'm not sure about. > > > > > > > > Guru level guidance warmly appreciated. > > > > > > I don't qualify. Sorry. But let us know if that works. I'm still > > > learning. > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Thanks Bob! > > Hope that helps. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > Grace happens. > You need to do a grub-install. You have confused grub, it does not know or care what partition is bootable, but it has to know where grub.conf is located so when you changed the partition you didn't change grub.conf so hence you need to do a grub install. So that grub can locate grub.conf From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 02:50:33 2004 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:50:33 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> > > OK, I now see Imissed on important piece of info. SC7 was installed in > > the MBR, and grub was installed (I think) on hda5. The boot process is > > to boot SC7, and then from SC7 choose Windows or Linux. If Linux, then > > it jumps to grub and I get the grub choices. > > I figured you'd have to complicate things. :-) > > > > > /dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. > > > > > > I think that's irrelevant to GRUB. Only your BIOS cares about that. > > > > > > > The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why > > > > did moving hda7 make any difference at all? > > > > > > I don't know. Rick probably does. I know Rick uses System Commander/Partition commander, but I'm unsure as to his use of their boot tools. He may use grub, or he may do it like I do. On a properly set up machine it's nice to use their tools as you have partition control at boot time, but that's jsut my preference. I was usign this tool set before I started with Linux. It was the only way to boot multiple copies of Windows. Later I jsut added Linux in the same way. > > > > > > > 2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? > > > > > > I'd say to boot with your distro disk #1 into rescue mode, let it > > > mount your system on /mnt/sysimage, pop out the CD, and then > > > > > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > > > grub-install /dev/hda > > > > This, I think, would put grub in the MBR, wouldn't it? > > Yes. I've seen precious few reasons not to. Yours may be one. > > > If so that's > > not what I want to do, or at least I think I don't. I still want to > > boot SC7 first. How about > > > > grub-install /dev/hda5? (Or should it be hda7 since that's the > > partition that caused the problem when I moved it. That'swhat I'm > > confused about. What did grub really put on /dev/hda7? > > > > Or possibly grub really is on /dev/hda5, which moved successfully, but > > then moving hda7 caused grb to get confused? Does grub look at the > > actual location that the root partition exists at, or does it just use > > the partition number. (What I thought...) > > That's beyond my level of expertise. Rick Stevens can chime in here. > The most important thing I can guess is that GRUB should be installed > on whichever partition is marked bootable. (Yeah, now it matters, I > think.) I still can't say which partition it should be. The Fine > Manual > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-grub-installing.html Thanks, Mark From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 02:58:25 2004 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:58:25 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <004401c4a504$26a8b7a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> References: <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <004401c4a504$26a8b7a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b040927195812eb205d@mail.gmail.com> > > > You need to do a grub-install. You have confused grub, it does not know or > care what partition is bootable, but it has to know where grub.conf is > located so when you changed the partition you didn't change grub.conf so > hence you need to do a grub install. So that grub can locate grub.conf > I presume that you are correct, but the partition numbers did not change. why should grub be confused. Instead of reinstalling it in the existing installation, I'm going to install it along with the new FC2 installation and boot from that new one. From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Tue Sep 28 03:06:20 2004 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:06:20 -0500 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b040927195812eb205d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004701c4a508$246a8aa0$4801a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:58 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > > > > > > You need to do a grub-install. You have confused grub, it does not know > or > > care what partition is bootable, but it has to know where grub.conf is > > located so when you changed the partition you didn't change grub.conf so > > hence you need to do a grub install. So that grub can locate grub.conf > > > I presume that you are correct, but the partition numbers did not > change. why should grub be confused. > > Instead of reinstalling it in the existing installation, I'm going to > install it along with the new FC2 installation and boot from that new > one. > What I mean is not hda5 has changed but the physical location has changed, i.e 1. hda2 2. hda5 3. hda4 to 1. hda5 2. hda2 3. hda4 now it goes to position 2 to locate grub.conf but it is not there. The reason I'm saying that is there is a sequence that it goes thru and you get different messages depending on where it is at. You are getting GRUB which means that it was properly booted, but it failed to load the menu therefore it didn't find the .conf file. The best way to solve your problem is to go to the source code and that should clear up what I am saying. From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 03:25:26 2004 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:25:26 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <004701c4a508$246a8aa0$4801a8c0@C515816A> References: <5bdc1c8b040927195812eb205d@mail.gmail.com> <004701c4a508$246a8aa0$4801a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b04092720255f70b377@mail.gmail.com> > > > What I mean is not hda5 has changed but the physical location has changed, > i.e > > 1. hda2 > 2. hda5 > 3. hda4 > > to > > 1. hda5 > 2. hda2 > 3. hda4 > > now it goes to position 2 to locate grub.conf but it is not there. > > The reason I'm saying that is there is a sequence that it goes thru and you > get different messages depending on where it is at. You are getting GRUB > which means that it was properly booted, but it failed to load the menu > therefore it didn't find the .conf file. The best way to solve your problem > is to go to the source code and that should clear up what I am saying. > > Yes, I understood what you meant, but if you were to go back and look at the original description you'll see that all I did was slide the partitions around. System Commander will allow you to reposition a partition, but all you can do is move it up and down until it runs into another existing partition, so as far as Linux is concerned the /dev/hdaX numebrs didn't change. When I booted Knoppix and looked at the mount properties It was still hda5=50MB boot, hda6=1G swap and hda7=30GB root. Iwas careful to ensure that I didn't remove any partitions so that the renumbering wouldn't happen. Anyway, your suggestion was what I was worried about happening. I was careful to try to ensure it didn't. Things were named the same after everythign was done, but I suspect that something happens in the process that does get things confused. Obviously since the machine is confused even though the partition numbering is the same. I'm curious as to whether grub store some physical info about the root partition, like it's starting and ending cluster numbers, etc., and not jsut the /dev/hdaX number. That sort of thing would explain more about this problem. hda7 is still hda7, but the address is different so it doesn't think it's the same hda7... Just a guess. FC2 will complete in 5 minutes so I'll start the install and pick up the pieces on the other side... Thanks, Mark From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 16:37:18 2004 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:37:18 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b04092721514a599d0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927195812eb205d@mail.gmail.com> <004701c4a508$246a8aa0$4801a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b04092720255f70b377@mail.gmail.com> <010801c4a513$61e7a830$1000a8c0@presario> <5bdc1c8b04092721514a599d0f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b040928093727f66dfc@mail.gmail.com> Good morning, Using rez gzq's original idea that since I was going to install FC2 I would get a new copy of grub in a different partition and I would be able to pick up my Gentoo installation using that grub I went ahead and did the install of FC2. It's up and running successfully, and I have access to my main Gentoo installation also. Great idea, and thanks. I do notice that the FC2 default grub.conf file does not boot Win XP Pro correctly so I'll have to go figure that out later. Possibly there is a simple fix for that, or possibly it's a good reason to use System Commander 7 in the MBR instead of grub. Not sure. I am still able to get to XP through System Commander 7's boot features so nothing lost. Thanks to all who answered. I am still perplexed as to why grub seems to have failed, or at least why it failed when it did. On my original setup I had /dev/hda5 - Gentoo /boot with grub (bootable) /dev/hda6 - swap /dev/hda7 - Gentoo / /dev/hda8 - FC2 /boot with grub (bootable) /dev/hda9 - FC2 / Since the Gentoo grub was installed in the first sector of /dev/hda5 I would have thought that it would fail when I moved hda5 at the beginning of the process to set up FC2. However, as I remember things it did not fail then, but failed when I moved hda7. I just do not understand that. I do think that, if you are going to use grub on something other than the MBR, having two copies of grub out on different partitions is an attractive safety feature. This way if I have to move one partition you still have another to get things booting. Probably overkill, but a small partition with nothing but grub in it is not a big price to pay except for the complexity. At this point I'm left with solving the Windows boot problem from grub, getting Gentoo's grub reset in it's boot partition, and then updating FC2 using PLanetCCRMA for bleeding edge audio. It will be fun to compare FC2 with updates done by pros to what I've been able to accomplish with Gentoo. I have no fantasies about while will likely work better! ;-) Cheers, Mark On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:51:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > use a partition manager (or the one that comes with Linux install) and see > > if the old hda5 or hda7 or whatever) have changed numbers > > > > goodluck > > > > John > > The partition numbers (according to both Linux and System Commander 7 > & 8.1) did not change. > From res73gzq at verizon.net Tue Sep 28 18:03:48 2004 From: res73gzq at verizon.net (res gzq) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:03:48 -1000 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') References: <5bdc1c8b040927195812eb205d@mail.gmail.com> <004701c4a508$246a8aa0$4801a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b04092720255f70b377@mail.gmail.com> <010801c4a513$61e7a830$1000a8c0@presario> <5bdc1c8b04092721514a599d0f@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b040928093727f66dfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004801c4a585$82b6ada0$1000a8c0@presario> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Knecht" To: "res gzq" ; "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 6:37 AM Subject: Re: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > Good morning, > Using rez gzq's original idea that since I was going to install FC2 > I would get a new copy of grub in a different partition and I would be > able to pick up my Gentoo installation using that grub I went ahead > and did the install of FC2. It's up and running successfully, and I > have access to my main Gentoo installation also. Great idea, and > thanks. > > I do notice that the FC2 default grub.conf file does not boot Win > XP Pro correctly so I'll have to go figure that out later. Possibly > there is a simple fix for that, or possibly it's a good reason to use > System Commander 7 in the MBR instead of grub. Not sure. I am still > able to get to XP through System Commander 7's boot features so > nothing lost. Thanks to all who answered. > > I am still perplexed as to why grub seems to have failed, or at > least why it failed when it did. On my original setup I had > > /dev/hda5 - Gentoo /boot with grub (bootable) > /dev/hda6 - swap > /dev/hda7 - Gentoo / > /dev/hda8 - FC2 /boot with grub (bootable) > /dev/hda9 - FC2 / > > Since the Gentoo grub was installed in the first sector of /dev/hda5 I > would have thought that it would fail when I moved hda5 at the > beginning of the process to set up FC2. However, as I remember things > it did not fail then, but failed when I moved hda7. I just do not > understand that. > > I do think that, if you are going to use grub on something other than > the MBR, having two copies of grub out on different partitions is an > attractive safety feature. This way if I have to move one partition > you still have another to get things booting. Probably overkill, but a > small partition with nothing but grub in it is not a big price to pay > except for the complexity. > > At this point I'm left with solving the Windows boot problem from > grub, getting Gentoo's grub reset in it's boot partition, and then > updating FC2 using PLanetCCRMA for bleeding edge audio. It will be fun > to compare FC2 with updates done by pros to what I've been able to > accomplish with Gentoo. I have no fantasies about while will likely > work better! ;-) > > Cheers, > Mark > I have Grub in MBR. To boot to Windows, Grub should put a Chainloader to the partition where Windows is located. For the Windows entry: root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 this boots the windows Multi-boot loader (Please select the operating system to start) which selects among the Windows installations. I believe that this should boot your Windows if it is the only Windows on your disk. This is the way I have it setup, altho there are probably different ways to setup multi-vendor booting. John > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:51:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > use a partition manager (or the one that comes with Linux install) and see > > > if the old hda5 or hda7 or whatever) have changed numbers > > > > > > goodluck > > > > > > John > > > > The partition numbers (according to both Linux and System Commander 7 > > & 8.1) did not change. > > From mknecht at controlnet.com Tue Sep 28 18:30:44 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:30:44 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <004801c4a585$82b6ada0$1000a8c0@presario> References: <5bdc1c8b040927195812eb205d@mail.gmail.com> <004701c4a508$246a8aa0$4801a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b04092720255f70b377@mail.gmail.com> <010801c4a513$61e7a830$1000a8c0@presario> <5bdc1c8b04092721514a599d0f@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b040928093727f66dfc@mail.gmail.com> <004801c4a585$82b6ada0$1000a8c0@presario> Message-ID: <4159ADD4.1070005@controlnet.com> res gzq wrote: > > I have Grub in MBR. To boot to Windows, Grub should put a Chainloader to > the partition where Windows is located. > > For the Windows entry: > > root (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > > this boots the windows Multi-boot loader (Please select the operating system > to start) > which selects among the Windows installations. I believe that this should > boot your Windows if it is the only Windows on your disk. > > This is the way I have it setup, altho there are probably different ways to > setup multi-vendor booting. > > John > John, My entry - created by the grub install - says 'rootnoverify'. Oter than that it's identical to yours. - Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Sep 28 19:08:58 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:08:58 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: >>>OK, I now see Imissed on important piece of info. SC7 was installed in >>>the MBR, and grub was installed (I think) on hda5. The boot process is >>>to boot SC7, and then from SC7 choose Windows or Linux. If Linux, then >>>it jumps to grub and I get the grub choices. >> >>I figured you'd have to complicate things. :-) > > > > >>>>>/dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. >>>> >>>>I think that's irrelevant to GRUB. Only your BIOS cares about that. >>>> >>>> >>>>>The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why >>>>>did moving hda7 make any difference at all? >>>> >>>>I don't know. Rick probably does. You need to check the fstab and see if you're using labels or partition numbers. If you use partition numbers, moving hda7 may cause it to not mount. > I know Rick uses System Commander/Partition commander, but I'm unsure > as to his use of their boot tools. He may use grub, or he may do it > like I do. On a properly set up machine it's nice to use their tools > as you have partition control at boot time, but that's jsut my > preference. I was usign this tool set before I started with Linux. It > was the only way to boot multiple copies of Windows. Later I jsut > added Linux in the same way. My laptop still has SC7, but it's not active (it's been grubified), so I can't really get into it right now. >>>>>2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? >>>> >>>>I'd say to boot with your distro disk #1 into rescue mode, let it >>>>mount your system on /mnt/sysimage, pop out the CD, and then >>>> >>>> chroot /mnt/sysimage >>>> grub-install /dev/hda >>> >>>This, I think, would put grub in the MBR, wouldn't it? >> >>Yes. I've seen precious few reasons not to. Yours may be one. >> >> >>>If so that's >>>not what I want to do, or at least I think I don't. I still want to >>>boot SC7 first. How about >>> >>>grub-install /dev/hda5? (Or should it be hda7 since that's the >>>partition that caused the problem when I moved it. That'swhat I'm >>>confused about. What did grub really put on /dev/hda7? >>> >>>Or possibly grub really is on /dev/hda5, which moved successfully, but >>>then moving hda7 caused grb to get confused? Does grub look at the >>>actual location that the root partition exists at, or does it just use >>>the partition number. (What I thought...) >> >>That's beyond my level of expertise. Rick Stevens can chime in here. >>The most important thing I can guess is that GRUB should be installed >>on whichever partition is marked bootable. (Yeah, now it matters, I >>think.) I still can't say which partition it should be. The Fine >>Manual Remember, the BIOS of your machine will pass control to the MBR of the primary drive. Whatever is installed there is then responsible for booting the rest of the stuff. For grub to do the full boot duties, it needs to be installed in the MBR of your primary hard drive. If you want SC7 to do the booting, it must be installed on the MBR of the primary hard drive. grub must be in the root directory of whatever partition you tell SC7 contains Linux, and you must tell SC7 which partition that is. It's usually pretty good at figuring it out, but double check. For most people, this would be the partition that contains the /boot directory. Sorry for my inactivity on the list the last few days, but it's been a bit, well, "farking crazy" here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart at sjsears.com Tue Sep 28 19:27:42 2004 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:27:42 +0100 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b04092720255f70b377@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927195812eb205d@mail.gmail.com> <004701c4a508$246a8aa0$4801a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b04092720255f70b377@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200409282027.42717.stuart@sjsears.com> On Tue 28 September 2004 04:25, Mark Knecht wrote: > I'm curious as to whether grub store some physical info about the root > partition, like it's starting and ending cluster numbers, etc., and > not jsut the /dev/hdaX number. That sort of thing would explain more > about this problem. hda7 is still hda7, but the address is different > so it doesn't think it's the same hda7... Although you've already got this solved, you should probably know that you are quite correct. GRUB is split into two parts, the first and second stages. The first stage is a small (446b IIRC) binary file that goes onto the MBR (or indeed first sector) of your bootable disc/partition. This is a supremely unintelligent binary which simply loads the second stage bootloader (by disc sector). The second stage is the full binary that provides your boot menu, allowing you to choose between kernels (and other OSs if configured that way). It is the second stage that looks for /boot/grub/grub.conf (well actually menu.lst, which is symlinked to grub.conf) So if you change the location of your root (or indeed /boot) FS you need to reinstall your 1st stage BL, which is what the grub-install command does. any help? Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur From res73gzq at verizon.net Tue Sep 28 20:27:52 2004 From: res73gzq at verizon.net (res gzq) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:27:52 -1000 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com><5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> Where do you find: fstab ? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Stevens" To: "Mark Knecht" ; "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > Mark Knecht wrote: > >>>OK, I now see Imissed on important piece of info. SC7 was installed in > >>>the MBR, and grub was installed (I think) on hda5. The boot process is > >>>to boot SC7, and then from SC7 choose Windows or Linux. If Linux, then > >>>it jumps to grub and I get the grub choices. > >> > >>I figured you'd have to complicate things. :-) > > > > > > > > > >>>>>/dev/hda5 is marked as bootable, not hda7. > >>>> > >>>>I think that's irrelevant to GRUB. Only your BIOS cares about that. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>The machine has been booted since I moved hda5 and hda6. Why > >>>>>did moving hda7 make any difference at all? > >>>> > >>>>I don't know. Rick probably does. > > You need to check the fstab and see if you're using labels or partition > numbers. If you use partition numbers, moving hda7 may cause it to not > mount. > > > I know Rick uses System Commander/Partition commander, but I'm unsure > > as to his use of their boot tools. He may use grub, or he may do it > > like I do. On a properly set up machine it's nice to use their tools > > as you have partition control at boot time, but that's jsut my > > preference. I was usign this tool set before I started with Linux. It > > was the only way to boot multiple copies of Windows. Later I jsut > > added Linux in the same way. > > My laptop still has SC7, but it's not active (it's been grubified), so > I can't really get into it right now. > > >>>>>2) What do I do to get the machine booting again? > >>>> > >>>>I'd say to boot with your distro disk #1 into rescue mode, let it > >>>>mount your system on /mnt/sysimage, pop out the CD, and then > >>>> > >>>> chroot /mnt/sysimage > >>>> grub-install /dev/hda > >>> > >>>This, I think, would put grub in the MBR, wouldn't it? > >> > >>Yes. I've seen precious few reasons not to. Yours may be one. > >> > >> > >>>If so that's > >>>not what I want to do, or at least I think I don't. I still want to > >>>boot SC7 first. How about > >>> > >>>grub-install /dev/hda5? (Or should it be hda7 since that's the > >>>partition that caused the problem when I moved it. That'swhat I'm > >>>confused about. What did grub really put on /dev/hda7? > >>> > >>>Or possibly grub really is on /dev/hda5, which moved successfully, but > >>>then moving hda7 caused grb to get confused? Does grub look at the > >>>actual location that the root partition exists at, or does it just use > >>>the partition number. (What I thought...) > >> > >>That's beyond my level of expertise. Rick Stevens can chime in here. > >>The most important thing I can guess is that GRUB should be installed > >>on whichever partition is marked bootable. (Yeah, now it matters, I > >>think.) I still can't say which partition it should be. The Fine > >>Manual > > Remember, the BIOS of your machine will pass control to the MBR of the > primary drive. Whatever is installed there is then responsible for > booting the rest of the stuff. For grub to do the full boot duties, it > needs to be installed in the MBR of your primary hard drive. > > If you want SC7 to do the booting, it must be installed on the MBR of > the primary hard drive. grub must be in the root directory of whatever > partition you tell SC7 contains Linux, and you must tell SC7 which > partition that is. It's usually pretty good at figuring it out, but > double check. For most people, this would be the partition that > contains the /boot directory. > > Sorry for my inactivity on the list the last few days, but it's been a > bit, well, "farking crazy" here. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check? - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From mknecht at controlnet.com Tue Sep 28 20:38:47 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:38:47 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com><5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> Message-ID: <4159CBD7.8010400@controlnet.com> res gzq wrote: > Where do you find: > > fstab ? > > John > Not sure I'm following but /etc/fstab ??? Is that what you mean? - Mark From silverrod at comcast.net Tue Sep 28 20:39:50 2004 From: silverrod at comcast.net (Silverrod) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:39:50 -0700 Subject: Help Message-ID: <000701c4a59b$4d0602d0$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> I have tried to get Red Hat Enterprise WS V3 to install in a dual boot situation with Windows 2K without success. I have concluded that Red Hat can't find my hard drive which is a Seagate SATA running off a Promise SATA 150 TX controller card. During the initial set up RH says that it can not find any hard drive gives me the option of installing the hardware driver. When I offer the Promise device driver floppy RH repeatedly tells me to install the floppy and push ok. I have done that and it just asks again. What do I do now? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mknecht at controlnet.com Tue Sep 28 20:45:46 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:45:46 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4159CD7A.3060502@controlnet.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > > You need to check the fstab and see if you're using labels or partition > numbers. If you use partition numbers, moving hda7 may cause it to not > mount. I am using partition numbers. Good info from Stuart seems to go a long way to explaining what I've been dealing with. > > My laptop still has SC7, but it's not active (it's been grubified), so > I can't really get into it right now. That's perfectly OK. This is the same laptop where some months ago I was unable to run system commander from the drive and you pointed out I could boot form the SC7 CD and get to partition commander. It was RH9/Win XP, became Gentoo/XP, and is now triple booting Win XP/Gentoo/FC2 as I compare how FC2 works. It's been far too difficult deal with RPM dependency hell to keep RH9 working well. Gentoo is better (to me anyway) for building from straight source, but the PlanetCCRMA site is doing some things with FC2 kernels that I want to test out. > > > Remember, the BIOS of your machine will pass control to the MBR of the > primary drive. Whatever is installed there is then responsible for > booting the rest of the stuff. For grub to do the full boot duties, it > needs to be installed in the MBR of your primary hard drive. > > If you want SC7 to do the booting, it must be installed on the MBR of > the primary hard drive. grub must be in the root directory of whatever > partition you tell SC7 contains Linux, and you must tell SC7 which > partition that is. It's usually pretty good at figuring it out, but > double check. For most people, this would be the partition that > contains the /boot directory. SC7 is installed and booting XP, but was failing on Gentoo's grub due to moving the partition /dev/hda5. Installing FC2 on a new set of partitions, with it's own grub on /dev/hda8, and telling SC7 to make hda8 bootable brought FC2 alive and allowed me to get both FC2 and Gentoo working just fine. > > Sorry for my inactivity on the list the last few days, but it's been a > bit, well, "farking crazy" here. Not a problem at all. Life calls, the list waits! ;-) From hmann at itgroundwork.com Tue Sep 28 23:32:43 2004 From: hmann at itgroundwork.com (Harper Mann) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:32:43 -0700 Subject: Help In-Reply-To: <000701c4a59b$4d0602d0$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> Message-ID: <200409282332.i8SNWYts025485@mx1.redhat.com> Looks like Promise doesn't have a WS V3 Driver yet: http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=98 &category=All&os=100 They have RH 9 which might work, or is that the one you tried? If RH 9 fails, Promise posted the source so you should be able to build it off another RH WS V3 system. It's on the URL above. Good luck, - Harper Harper Mann Groundwork Open Source Solutions 510-599-2075 (cell) _____ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Silverrod Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:40 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Help I have tried to get Red Hat Enterprise WS V3 to install in a dual boot situation with Windows 2K without success. I have concluded that Red Hat can't find my hard drive which is a Seagate SATA running off a Promise SATA 150 TX controller card. During the initial set up RH says that it can not find any hard drive gives me the option of installing the hardware driver. When I offer the Promise device driver floppy RH repeatedly tells me to install the floppy and push ok. I have done that and it just asks again. What do I do now? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From silverrod at comcast.net Tue Sep 28 23:51:14 2004 From: silverrod at comcast.net (Silverrod) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:51:14 -0700 Subject: Help In-Reply-To: <200409282332.i8SNWYts025485@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <004101c4a5b6$0af13f70$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> Thank you very much. I have downloaded the driver that you pointed me to. I will try it in just a moment. If it doesn't work I can now nag Promise. I hadn't thought of that before. Thanks again Rod -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Harper Mann Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:33 PM To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' Subject: RE: Help Looks like Promise doesn't have a WS V3 Driver yet: http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=98 &category=All&os=100 They have RH 9 which might work, or is that the one you tried? If RH 9 fails, Promise posted the source so you should be able to build it off another RH WS V3 system. It's on the URL above. Good luck, - Harper Harper Mann Groundwork Open Source Solutions 510-599-2075 (cell) _____ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Silverrod Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:40 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Help I have tried to get Red Hat Enterprise WS V3 to install in a dual boot situation with Windows 2K without success. I have concluded that Red Hat can't find my hard drive which is a Seagate SATA running off a Promise SATA 150 TX controller card. During the initial set up RH says that it can not find any hard drive gives me the option of installing the hardware driver. When I offer the Promise device driver floppy RH repeatedly tells me to install the floppy and push ok. I have done that and it just asks again. What do I do now? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 29 01:24:16 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:24:16 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <4159CBD7.8010400@controlnet.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com><5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> <4159CBD7.8010400@controlnet.com> Message-ID: <415A0EC0.60306@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > res gzq wrote: > >> Where do you find: >> >> fstab ? >> >> John >> > > Not sure I'm following but > > /etc/fstab > > ??? Is that what you mean? Yes. You must look at /etc/fstab on the system that's being booted. This may require booting off the CD in rescue mode if the /etc/fstab uses drive identifiers for filesystems that are necessary for booting (e.g. /, /boot and /usr) and those identifiers no longer match the partitions. In other words, if the /etc/fstab says something like: /dev/hda1 /boot (blah, blah) /dev/hda2 / (blah, blah) /dev/hda7 /usr (blah, blah) /dev/hda5 /var (blah, blah) and you swapped hda7 to hda5, then the system won't be able to mount /usr correctly (it'll mount /var as /usr) and stuff will break big time. Now, if fstab use labels instead, such as: LABEL=/usr /usr (blah, blah) this isn't a problem, as the system will look for a partition that's labeled "/usr", regardless of where it is. This is the ONLY time that I think labels are OK. Generally, I avoid them like the plague. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Hello. My PID is Inigo Montoya. You `kill -9'-ed my parent - - process. Prepare to vi." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 29 01:25:50 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:25:50 -0700 Subject: Help In-Reply-To: <004101c4a5b6$0af13f70$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> References: <004101c4a5b6$0af13f70$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> Message-ID: <415A0F1E.7090007@vitalstream.com> Silverrod wrote: > Thank you very much. I have downloaded the driver that you pointed me > to. I will try it in just a moment. If it doesn?t work I can now nag > Promise. I hadn?t thought of that before. Don't forget, if Promise provides a boot floppy, you must boot the CD using "linux dd". When the system asks you for the driver floppy, put it in and click on "Continue". > > > > Thanks again > > Rod > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Harper Mann > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:33 PM > *To:* 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > *Subject:* RE: Help > > > > Looks like Promise doesn?t have a WS V3 Driver yet: > > > > http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=98&category=All&os=100 > > > > > They have RH 9 which might work, or is that the one you tried? > > > > If RH 9 fails, Promise posted the source so you should be able to build > it off another RH WS V3 system. It?s on the URL above. > > > > Good luck, > > > > - Harper > > > > Harper Mann > > Groundwork Open Source Solutions > > 510-599-2075 (cell) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Silverrod > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:40 PM > *To:* redhat-install-list at redhat.com > *Subject:* Help > > > > I have tried to get Red Hat Enterprise WS V3 to install in a > dual boot situation with Windows 2K without success. I have concluded > that Red Hat can?t find my hard drive which is a Seagate SATA running > off a Promise SATA 150 TX controller card. During the initial set up RH > says that it can not find any hard drive gives me the option of > installing the hardware driver. When I offer the Promise device driver > floppy RH repeatedly tells me to install the floppy and push ok. I have > done that and it just asks again. What do I do now? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 29 01:27:18 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:27:18 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <4159CD7A.3060502@controlnet.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> <4159CD7A.3060502@controlnet.com> Message-ID: <415A0F76.40108@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> >> You need to check the fstab and see if you're using labels or partition >> numbers. If you use partition numbers, moving hda7 may cause it to not >> mount. > > > I am using partition numbers. Good info from Stuart seems to go a long > way to explaining what I've been dealing with. > > >> >> My laptop still has SC7, but it's not active (it's been grubified), so >> I can't really get into it right now. > > > That's perfectly OK. > > This is the same laptop where some months ago I was unable to run system > commander from the drive and you pointed out I could boot form the SC7 > CD and get to partition commander. It was RH9/Win XP, became Gentoo/XP, > and is now triple booting Win XP/Gentoo/FC2 as I compare how FC2 works. > It's been far too difficult deal with RPM dependency hell to keep RH9 > working well. Gentoo is better (to me anyway) for building from straight > source, but the PlanetCCRMA site is doing some things with FC2 kernels > that I want to test out. > >> >> >> Remember, the BIOS of your machine will pass control to the MBR of the >> primary drive. Whatever is installed there is then responsible for >> booting the rest of the stuff. For grub to do the full boot duties, it >> needs to be installed in the MBR of your primary hard drive. >> >> If you want SC7 to do the booting, it must be installed on the MBR of >> the primary hard drive. grub must be in the root directory of whatever >> partition you tell SC7 contains Linux, and you must tell SC7 which >> partition that is. It's usually pretty good at figuring it out, but >> double check. For most people, this would be the partition that >> contains the /boot directory. > > > SC7 is installed and booting XP, but was failing on Gentoo's grub due to > moving the partition /dev/hda5. Installing FC2 on a new set of > partitions, with it's own grub on /dev/hda8, and telling SC7 to make > hda8 bootable brought FC2 alive and allowed me to get both FC2 and > Gentoo working just fine. > >> >> Sorry for my inactivity on the list the last few days, but it's been a >> bit, well, "farking crazy" here. > > > Not a problem at all. Life calls, the list waits! ;-) Actually, it's more like "the boss and the clients are whining" :-P ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The Theory of Rapitivity: E=MC Hammer - - -- Glenn Marcus (via TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 01:38:35 2004 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:38:35 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <415A0EC0.60306@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> <4159CBD7.8010400@controlnet.com> <415A0EC0.60306@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0409281838fd4f16b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:24:16 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Now, if fstab use labels instead, such as: > > LABEL=/usr /usr (blah, blah) > > this isn't a problem, as the system will look for a partition that's > labeled "/usr", regardless of where it is. This is the ONLY time that > I think labels are OK. Generally, I avoid them like the plague. I'm unclear whether you think this would have helped my problem. I think not. Using Stuart's info he said grb had two parts. In my case grub said 'GRUB' but didn't say 'GRUB second phase loader' or whatever that language is. I assume grub cannot find fstab on it's own, correct? Labels are sort of nice for my 1394 drives when I need to hook up multiple drives and keep them straight, but actually I don't use them for my systems. thanks, Mark From roland at cat.be Wed Sep 29 14:34:56 2004 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:34:56 +0200 Subject: backup Message-ID: <000d01c4a631$7e157400$6e00a8c0@ltsp> I took a backup on the scsi device /dev/rct0 instead of /dev/st0 (i was used to write rct0 with SCO unix) So he took a backup in de file /dev/rct0 with the instruction find . -print|cpio -ovBc >/dev/rct0 I thought getting the backuped files from this file with cpio -ivBc From ddelao at oucpm.org Wed Sep 29 14:38:58 2004 From: ddelao at oucpm.org (Darryl W. 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URL: From chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca Wed Sep 29 15:00:49 2004 From: chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca (Chris A Czerwinski) Date: 29 Sep 2004 11:00:49 -0400 Subject: Creative SB AWE64 - how to activate Message-ID: <1096470049.3663.41.camel@redhat90> First a Big Thanks for the help when I swapped my Toshiba CDROM for a SONY CDRW where I appended my /boot/grub/grub.conf at the end of the kernel line I added ... hdc=ide-scsi - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Now I want to activate my Sound Card (there was no need before) so doing my research and discovery I have tried the following My OS is Red Hat 9 with kernel-2.4.20-31.9 and current with YUM as of Sep 26, 2004 [root]# cat /proc/isapnp { it displays the following } Card 1 'CTL00c1:Creative SB AWE64 PnP' PnP version 1.0 Product version 1.0 Logical device 0 'CTL0042:Audio' Device is active Active port 0x220,0x330,0x388 Active IRQ 5 [0x2] Active DMA 1,5 Logical device 1 'CTL7002:Game' Compatible device PNPb02f Device is not active Logical device 2 'CTL0022:WaveTable' Device is not active - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - when I look thru Red Hat MAIN MENU -> SYSTEM Tools -> HARDWARE BROWSER -> it displays the following: SOUND Cards -> Creative SB AWE64:Audio Creative SB AWE64:WaveTable Device Information: Manufacturer: Unknown Driver: SB and under Unknown Devices -> Creative SB AWE64 PnP:Game Device Information: Manufacturer: Unknown Driver: ns558 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [root]# rpm -q sndconfig sndconfig-0.70-2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I was able to find the following on my system [root usr/sbin/sndconfig]#ls -al sndconfig sndconfig -> ../../sbin/sndconfig {a link} [root usr/share/sndconfig]#ls -al sample2.au {a file} sample.au {a file} sample.midi {a file} [root sbin]# ls -al sndconfig -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 263776 Feb 7 2003 sndconfig [root sbin]# sndconfig bash: sndconfig: command not found - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - So HOW can I activate my sound card??? Chris Cz (still a Newbie) From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Sep 29 15:48:46 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:48:46 -0500 Subject: Creative SB AWE64 - how to activate In-Reply-To: <1096470049.3663.41.camel@redhat90> References: <1096470049.3663.41.camel@redhat90> Message-ID: <20040929154846.GA19180@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:00:49AM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > First a Big Thanks for the help when I swapped my > Toshiba CDROM for a SONY CDRW > where I appended my /boot/grub/grub.conf > at the end of the kernel line I added ... hdc=ide-scsi > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Now I want to activate my Sound Card (there was no need before) > so doing my research and discovery I have tried the following > > My OS is Red Hat 9 with kernel-2.4.20-31.9 > and current with YUM as of Sep 26, 2004 > > [root]# cat /proc/isapnp { it displays the following } > > Card 1 'CTL00c1:Creative SB AWE64 PnP' PnP version 1.0 Product version > 1.0 > > Logical device 0 'CTL0042:Audio' > Device is active > Active port 0x220,0x330,0x388 > Active IRQ 5 [0x2] > Active DMA 1,5 > > Logical device 1 'CTL7002:Game' > Compatible device PNPb02f > Device is not active > > Logical device 2 'CTL0022:WaveTable' > Device is not active > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > when I look thru Red Hat MAIN MENU -> > SYSTEM Tools -> > HARDWARE BROWSER -> > it displays the following: > > SOUND Cards -> Creative SB AWE64:Audio > Creative SB AWE64:WaveTable > Device Information: > Manufacturer: Unknown > Driver: SB > and under > > Unknown Devices -> Creative SB AWE64 PnP:Game > Device Information: > Manufacturer: Unknown > Driver: ns558 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > [root]# rpm -q sndconfig > sndconfig-0.70-2 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > I was able to find the following on my system > > [root usr/sbin/sndconfig]#ls -al sndconfig > sndconfig -> ../../sbin/sndconfig {a link} > > [root usr/share/sndconfig]#ls -al > sample2.au {a file} > sample.au {a file} > sample.midi {a file} > > [root sbin]# ls -al sndconfig > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 263776 Feb 7 2003 sndconfig > > [root sbin]# sndconfig > bash: sndconfig: command not found > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > So HOW can I activate my sound card??? > > Chris Cz (still a Newbie) How did you become root? If you did "su", you got root's identity but not his environment, especially his PATH, so you can't execute stuff in /sbin or /usr/sbin without specifying the full path, e.g. /usr/sbin/sndconfig. If you do "su -", you will get root's complete world including PATH, just as if you logged in as root to begin with. "man su" for more info. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From silverrod at comcast.net Wed Sep 29 16:28:36 2004 From: silverrod at comcast.net (Silverrod) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:28:36 -0700 Subject: Help In-Reply-To: <415A0F1E.7090007@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <001a01c4a641$61f863d0$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> The RH 9.0 driver from Promise didn't work. I have e-mailed them asking for a RHWS v3 driver, no word back yet. I just don't have the moxie to modify the code as Harper suggested, but I appreciate the suggestion. What if I were to install a second hard drive that RH recognized and load RH there? Is there a way then to the dual boot option with Windows 2K to work? The two operating systems would be on different hard drive, one recognized by RH and one not. By the way should I be posting responses at the bottom or the top of an ongoing discussion like this? Thanks for any help that you can give Rod -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 6:26 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Help Silverrod wrote: > Thank you very much. I have downloaded the driver that you pointed me > to. I will try it in just a moment. If it doesn't work I can now nag > Promise. I hadn't thought of that before. Don't forget, if Promise provides a boot floppy, you must boot the CD using "linux dd". When the system asks you for the driver floppy, put it in and click on "Continue". > > > > Thanks again > > Rod > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Harper Mann > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:33 PM > *To:* 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > *Subject:* RE: Help > > > > Looks like Promise doesn't have a WS V3 Driver yet: > > > > http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=98&categ ory=All&os=100 > > > > > They have RH 9 which might work, or is that the one you tried? > > > > If RH 9 fails, Promise posted the source so you should be able to build > it off another RH WS V3 system. It's on the URL above. > > > > Good luck, > > > > - Harper > > > > Harper Mann > > Groundwork Open Source Solutions > > 510-599-2075 (cell) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Silverrod > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:40 PM > *To:* redhat-install-list at redhat.com > *Subject:* Help > > > > I have tried to get Red Hat Enterprise WS V3 to install in a > dual boot situation with Windows 2K without success. I have concluded > that Red Hat can't find my hard drive which is a Seagate SATA running > off a Promise SATA 150 TX controller card. During the initial set up RH > says that it can not find any hard drive gives me the option of > installing the hardware driver. When I offer the Promise device driver > floppy RH repeatedly tells me to install the floppy and push ok. I have > done that and it just asks again. What do I do now? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 29 17:09:41 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:09:41 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0409281838fd4f16b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> <4159CBD7.8010400@controlnet.com> <415A0EC0.60306@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b0409281838fd4f16b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <415AEC55.5010104@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:24:16 -0700, Rick Stevens > wrote: > > >>Now, if fstab use labels instead, such as: >> >> LABEL=/usr /usr (blah, blah) >> >>this isn't a problem, as the system will look for a partition that's >>labeled "/usr", regardless of where it is. This is the ONLY time that >>I think labels are OK. Generally, I avoid them like the plague. > > > I'm unclear whether you think this would have helped my problem. I > think not. Using Stuart's info he said grb had two parts. In my case > grub said 'GRUB' but didn't say 'GRUB second phase loader' or whatever > that language is. I assume grub cannot find fstab on it's own, > correct? Correct. /etc/fstab is used by the "mount -a" command in the startup scripts. The MBR part of grub (first stage) needs to know where the second stage is located. That's what the "root=" thing is for in grub.conf--it tells grub where /boot is (and hence, where the second stage loader and the grub config file are). > Labels are sort of nice for my 1394 drives when I need to hook up > multiple drives and keep them straight, but actually I don't use them > for my systems. Yes, that can be helpful. The main problem with labels is when people try to have multiple versions of Linux installed on the hard drives. You know, multiple partitions labeled "/usr" or "/". Which one gets used when is indeterminate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Squawk! Pieces of Seven! Pieces of Seven! Parity Error! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 29 17:13:45 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:13:45 -0700 Subject: backup In-Reply-To: <000d01c4a631$7e157400$6e00a8c0@ltsp> References: <000d01c4a631$7e157400$6e00a8c0@ltsp> Message-ID: <415AED49.3070103@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > I took a backup on the scsi device /dev/rct0 instead of /dev/st0 (i was > used to write rct0 with SCO unix) > So he took a backup in de file /dev/rct0 with the instruction > find . -print|cpio -ovBc >/dev/rct0 > I thought getting the backuped files from this file with > cpio -ivBc but this gives the error > value too large for the defined data type > > Could someone help me, otherwise I will be in a deep sh.. Try cat /dev/rct0 | cpio -ivBc or cpio -ivBc -I /dev/rct0 instead. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 29 17:22:50 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:22:50 -0700 Subject: SSH Security In-Reply-To: <006e01c4a632$0e0ee7d0$0632a8c0@Ebiz1> References: <006e01c4a632$0e0ee7d0$0632a8c0@Ebiz1> Message-ID: <415AEF6A.5040204@vitalstream.com> Darryl W. DeLao Jr. wrote: > How can I tell the SSH server to only allow certain IP?s the ability to > login? Assuming your sshd was compiled with tcpwrappers enabled (the Fedora and Red Hat versions are), edit /etc/hosts.deny and add this line: sshd : ALL Edit /etc/hosts.allow and add lines for each allowable IP. The lines can take one of two forms: sshd : ip-address (to only allow SSH access) ALL : ip-address (to allow total access) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mknecht at controlnet.com Wed Sep 29 17:24:38 2004 From: mknecht at controlnet.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:24:38 -0700 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <415AEC55.5010104@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> <4159CBD7.8010400@controlnet.com> <415A0EC0.60306@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b0409281838fd4f16b@mail.gmail.com> <415AEC55.5010104@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <415AEFD6.6060904@controlnet.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm unclear whether you think this would have helped my problem. I >> think not. Using Stuart's info he said grb had two parts. In my case >> grub said 'GRUB' but didn't say 'GRUB second phase loader' or whatever >> that language is. I assume grub cannot find fstab on it's own, >> correct? > > > Correct. /etc/fstab is used by the "mount -a" command in the startup > scripts. The MBR part of grub (first stage) needs to know where the > second stage is located. That's what the "root=" thing is for in > grub.conf--it tells grub where /boot is (and hence, where the second > stage loader and the grub config file are). > GRUB is split into two parts, the first and second stages. The first stage is a small (446b IIRC) binary file that goes onto the MBR (or indeed first sector) of your bootable disc/partition. This is a supremely unintelligent binary which simply loads the second stage bootloader (by disc sector). The second stage is the full binary that provides your boot menu, allowing you to choose between kernels (and other OSs if configured that way). It is the second stage that looks for /boot/grub/grub.conf (well actually menu.lst, which is symlinked to grub.conf) So if you change the location of your root (or indeed /boot) FS you need to reinstall your 1st stage BL, which is what the grub-install command does. OK then, to finish up from my side (unless I'm incorrect in this summary) here's what happened. My /dev/hda7 / (root) partition did not change numbers. It has /dev/hd7 before and after the move. My /dev/hda5 /boot partition also did not change numbers. It was /dev/hda5 before and after. However, when I move /dev/hda7 the sectors that the second stage of grub is located on moves. grub is not really smart enough to look somewhere within /dev/hda7, but actually has to be given the exact secotr numbers. Since this changed grub was hosed. The fix, odd as it is, is to reinstall grub to my boot partition. In my case nothing new would be written onto the boot partition, and nothign new would be written onto the / (root) partition, but the act of writting /dev/hda7 again causes the grub-install process to figure out what the new sector numbers are and set up the portion of grub on the /boot partition correctly. Weird, but I guess it works. Makes me wonder... Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Sep 29 17:29:54 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 10:29:54 -0700 Subject: Help In-Reply-To: <001a01c4a641$61f863d0$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> References: <001a01c4a641$61f863d0$6501a8c0@darthd99btwbj0> Message-ID: <415AF112.9090303@vitalstream.com> Silverrod wrote: > The RH 9.0 driver from Promise didn't work. I have e-mailed them > asking for a RHWS v3 driver, no word back yet. I just don't have the moxie > to modify the code as Harper suggested, but I appreciate the suggestion. > What if I were to install a second hard drive that RH recognized and > load RH there? Is there a way then to the dual boot option with Windows 2K > to work? The two operating systems would be on different hard drive, one > recognized by RH and one not. grub handles dual-boot just fine, so yes, you can do that. > By the way should I be posting responses at the bottom or the top of > an ongoing discussion like this? We (and most Linux mailing lists) prefer bottom posting. This allows one to comment on each part of your post and keeps the comment flow consistent, as I've done here. > > Thanks for any help that you can give You're welcome. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 6:26 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Help > > Silverrod wrote: > >>Thank you very much. I have downloaded the driver that you pointed me >>to. I will try it in just a moment. If it doesn't work I can now nag >>Promise. I hadn't thought of that before. > > > Don't forget, if Promise provides a boot floppy, you must boot the CD > using "linux dd". When the system asks you for the driver floppy, put > it in and click on "Continue". > > >> >> >>Thanks again >> >>Rod >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>*From:* redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Harper Mann >>*Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:33 PM >>*To:* 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' >>*Subject:* RE: Help >> >> >> >>Looks like Promise doesn't have a WS V3 Driver yet: >> >> >> >> > > http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=98&categ > ory=All&os=100 > > gory=All&os=100> > >> >> >>They have RH 9 which might work, or is that the one you tried? >> >> >> >>If RH 9 fails, Promise posted the source so you should be able to build >>it off another RH WS V3 system. It's on the URL above. >> >> >> >>Good luck, >> >> >> >>- Harper >> >> >> >>Harper Mann >> >>Groundwork Open Source Solutions >> >>510-599-2075 (cell) >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>*From:* redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *Silverrod >>*Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:40 PM >>*To:* redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>*Subject:* Help >> >> >> >> I have tried to get Red Hat Enterprise WS V3 to install in a >>dual boot situation with Windows 2K without success. I have concluded >>that Red Hat can't find my hard drive which is a Seagate SATA running >>off a Promise SATA 150 TX controller card. During the initial set up RH >>says that it can not find any hard drive gives me the option of >>installing the hardware driver. When I offer the Promise device driver >>floppy RH repeatedly tells me to install the floppy and push ok. I have >>done that and it just asks again. What do I do now? >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - All generalizations are false. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Wed Sep 29 18:02:23 2004 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:02:23 -0500 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <415AEFD6.6060904@controlnet.com> Message-ID: <001701c4a64e$7e5e36a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:25 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > > Rick Stevens wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm unclear whether you think this would have helped my problem. I > >> think not. Using Stuart's info he said grb had two parts. In my case > >> grub said 'GRUB' but didn't say 'GRUB second phase loader' or whatever > >> that language is. I assume grub cannot find fstab on it's own, > >> correct? > > > > > > Correct. /etc/fstab is used by the "mount -a" command in the startup > > scripts. The MBR part of grub (first stage) needs to know where the > > second stage is located. That's what the "root=" thing is for in > > grub.conf--it tells grub where /boot is (and hence, where the second > > stage loader and the grub config file are). > > > > > > GRUB is split into two parts, the first and second stages. The first > stage is a small (446b IIRC) binary file that goes onto the MBR (or > indeed first sector) of your bootable disc/partition. This is a > supremely unintelligent binary which simply loads the second stage > bootloader (by disc sector). > > The second stage is the full binary that provides your boot menu, > allowing you to choose between kernels (and other OSs if configured that > way). It is the second stage that looks for /boot/grub/grub.conf (well > actually menu.lst, which is symlinked to grub.conf) > > So if you change the location of your root (or indeed /boot) FS you need > to reinstall your 1st stage BL, which is what the grub-install command > does. > > > > OK then, to finish up from my side (unless I'm incorrect in this > summary) here's what happened. My /dev/hda7 / (root) partition did not > change numbers. It has /dev/hd7 before and after the move. My /dev/hda5 > /boot partition also did not change numbers. It was /dev/hda5 before and > after. > > However, when I move /dev/hda7 the sectors that the second stage of grub > is located on moves. grub is not really smart enough to look somewhere > within /dev/hda7, but actually has to be given the exact secotr numbers. > Since this changed grub was hosed. > > The fix, odd as it is, is to reinstall grub to my boot partition. In my > case nothing new would be written onto the boot partition, and nothign > new would be written onto the / (root) partition, but the act of > writting /dev/hda7 again causes the grub-install process to figure out > what the new sector numbers are and set up the portion of grub on the > /boot partition correctly. > > Weird, but I guess it works. Makes me wonder... > > Thanks, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ my 2c and them I'm outta here. First the partition numbers are not the ones you are thinking of you can have a hda7 and a hdb7 etc. There is a logical argument that the physical sector of the second stage has not changed. Third, and finally normally GRUB prints message that it could not find second stage and you said you got GRUB only. So finally, I believe you loaded the second stage but .... If you want to test it further rename grub.conf and then boot and see what happens. From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Wed Sep 29 18:31:15 2004 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:31:15 -0500 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <001701c4a64e$7e5e36a0$4801a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <001c01c4a652$8146dad0$4801a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:02 PM > To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > Subject: RE: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install- > list- > > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:25 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > > > > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I'm unclear whether you think this would have helped my problem. I > > >> think not. Using Stuart's info he said grb had two parts. In my case > > >> grub said 'GRUB' but didn't say 'GRUB second phase loader' or > whatever > > >> that language is. I assume grub cannot find fstab on it's own, > > >> correct? > > > > > > > > > Correct. /etc/fstab is used by the "mount -a" command in the startup > > > scripts. The MBR part of grub (first stage) needs to know where the > > > second stage is located. That's what the "root=" thing is for in > > > grub.conf--it tells grub where /boot is (and hence, where the second > > > stage loader and the grub config file are). > > > > > > > > > > > GRUB is split into two parts, the first and second stages. The first > > stage is a small (446b IIRC) binary file that goes onto the MBR (or > > indeed first sector) of your bootable disc/partition. This is a > > supremely unintelligent binary which simply loads the second stage > > bootloader (by disc sector). > > > > The second stage is the full binary that provides your boot menu, > > allowing you to choose between kernels (and other OSs if configured that > > way). It is the second stage that looks for /boot/grub/grub.conf (well > > actually menu.lst, which is symlinked to grub.conf) > > > > So if you change the location of your root (or indeed /boot) FS you need > > to reinstall your 1st stage BL, which is what the grub-install command > > does. > > > > > > > > OK then, to finish up from my side (unless I'm incorrect in this > > summary) here's what happened. My /dev/hda7 / (root) partition did not > > change numbers. It has /dev/hd7 before and after the move. My /dev/hda5 > > /boot partition also did not change numbers. It was /dev/hda5 before and > > after. > > > > However, when I move /dev/hda7 the sectors that the second stage of grub > > is located on moves. grub is not really smart enough to look somewhere > > within /dev/hda7, but actually has to be given the exact secotr numbers. > > Since this changed grub was hosed. > > > > The fix, odd as it is, is to reinstall grub to my boot partition. In my > > case nothing new would be written onto the boot partition, and nothign > > new would be written onto the / (root) partition, but the act of > > writting /dev/hda7 again causes the grub-install process to figure out > > what the new sector numbers are and set up the portion of grub on the > > /boot partition correctly. > > > > Weird, but I guess it works. Makes me wonder... > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > my 2c and them I'm outta here. First the partition numbers are not the > ones > you are thinking of you can have a hda7 and a hdb7 etc. There is a > logical > argument that the physical sector of the second stage has not changed. > Third, and finally normally GRUB prints message that it could not find > second stage and you said you got GRUB only. So finally, I believe you > loaded the second stage but .... If you want to test it further rename > grub.conf and then boot and see what happens. > > > The reason for the theory that the physical sector hasn't changed is because it is generally written in the area behind the mbr. Sorry, for the double post From roland at cat.be Thu Sep 30 08:56:12 2004 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:56:12 +0200 Subject: backup In-Reply-To: <415AED49.3070103@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <000101c4a6cb$5614eb80$6f0101c0@ltsp> Indeed it works I could kiss you, but you are not a women. Maybe in our next live. Thank you very much Roland Brouwers Mob: +32 (0)475 443 105 roland at cat.be -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: woensdag 29 september 2004 18:14 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: backup roland brouwers wrote: > I took a backup on the scsi device /dev/rct0 instead of /dev/st0 (i > was > used to write rct0 with SCO unix) > So he took a backup in de file /dev/rct0 with the instruction > find . -print|cpio -ovBc >/dev/rct0 > I thought getting the backuped files from this file with > cpio -ivBc but this gives the error > value too large for the defined data type > > Could someone help me, otherwise I will be in a deep sh.. Try cat /dev/rct0 | cpio -ivBc or cpio -ivBc -I /dev/rct0 instead. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From wanakahalugi at yahoo.com.sg Thu Sep 30 09:21:45 2004 From: wanakahalugi at yahoo.com.sg (wanakahalugi) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:21:45 +0700 Subject: libglade-2.4.0 instalation Message-ID: Hi Guys, I'd tried to install libglade-2.4.0 in my machine, but in the middle of the process there's an error message came up. Please anybody who can give me the clue how to fix this poblem... Thanks This is the error : --------------error message-------------------- configure: creating libtool checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.0... no *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed. checking for gtk_plug_get_type... no checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.10 atk >= 1.0.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0 glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0... Requested 'gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0' but version of GTK+ is 2.2.1 configure: error: Library requirements ( libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.10 atk >= 1.0.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0 glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. ----------------------------------------------- From chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca Thu Sep 30 14:10:46 2004 From: chrisczerwinski at cogeco.ca (Chris A Czerwinski) Date: 30 Sep 2004 10:10:46 -0400 Subject: Creative SB AWE64 - how to activate In-Reply-To: <20040929154846.GA19180@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1096470049.3663.41.camel@redhat90> <20040929154846.GA19180@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <1096553445.2131.16.camel@redhat90> On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:48, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:00:49AM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > > > > I was able to find the following on my system > > > > [root usr/sbin/sndconfig]#ls -al sndconfig > > sndconfig -> ../../sbin/sndconfig {a link} > > > > [root usr/share/sndconfig]#ls -al > > sample2.au {a file} > > sample.au {a file} > > sample.midi {a file} > > > > [root sbin]# ls -al sndconfig > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 263776 Feb 7 2003 sndconfig > > > > [root sbin]# sndconfig > > bash: sndconfig: command not found > > > > So HOW can I activate my sound card??? > > > > Chris Cz (still a Newbie) > > How did you become root? If you did "su", you got root's identity but > not his environment, especially his PATH, so you can't execute stuff > in /sbin or /usr/sbin without specifying the full path, > e.g. /usr/sbin/sndconfig. If you do "su -", you will get root's > complete world including PATH, just as if you logged in as root to > begin with. "man su" for more info. > > Cheers, Bob, Great to have asked this People Knowledge Base because it works. Didn't know a "-" (dash) could make a difference, that did the trick. Thanks, Chris (an intermediate newbie) From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Sep 30 16:30:01 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:30:01 -0700 Subject: Postfix question Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9EE@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Under a directory /var/spool/postfix/etc There are files such as hosts, resolv.conf, etc. Which are supposed to be copies of the /etc files. Why aren't these files just links to /etc so it would always test ok, and if those files changed, postfix would change automatically (minus having to run reload). From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Sep 30 17:12:08 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:12:08 -0500 Subject: Postfix question In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9EE@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9EE@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <20040930171208.GB6948@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:30:01AM -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Under a directory > > /var/spool/postfix/etc > > There are files such as hosts, resolv.conf, etc. Which are supposed to > be copies of the /etc files. > > Why aren't these files just links to /etc so it would always test ok, > and if those files changed, postfix would change automatically (minus > having to run reload). They might possibly be hard links, but only if /etc and /var/spool/postfix/etc are on the same filesystem. A symlink won't work in the chroot environment. But some editors or change processes will break hard links, so that may not even work. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Sep 30 17:25:05 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:25:05 -0500 Subject: Postfix question In-Reply-To: <20040930171208.GB6948@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9EE@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20040930171208.GB6948@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20040930172505.GA7432@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:12:08PM -0500, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:30:01AM -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > Under a directory > > > > /var/spool/postfix/etc > > > > There are files such as hosts, resolv.conf, etc. Which are supposed to > > be copies of the /etc files. > > > > Why aren't these files just links to /etc so it would always test ok, > > and if those files changed, postfix would change automatically (minus > > having to run reload). > > They might possibly be hard links, but only if /etc and > /var/spool/postfix/etc are on the same filesystem. A symlink won't > work in the chroot environment. But some editors or change processes > will break hard links, so that may not even work. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. I should have added that, in a busy environment, say, an ISP, I set up a cron job that refreshes those files every five minutes using rsync. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Sep 30 18:17:40 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:17:40 -0700 Subject: Postfix question Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:12 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Postfix question > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:30:01AM -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > Under a directory > > > > /var/spool/postfix/etc > > > > There are files such as hosts, resolv.conf, etc. Which are > supposed > > to be copies of the /etc files. > > > > Why aren't these files just links to /etc so it would > always test ok, > > and if those files changed, postfix would change > automatically (minus > > having to run reload). > > They might possibly be hard links, but only if /etc and > /var/spool/postfix/etc are on the same filesystem. A symlink > won't work in the chroot environment. But some editors or > change processes will break hard links, so that may not even work. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. They aren't hard links, editing one, doesn't show up as a change in the other. So the question becomes, does postfix modify in anyway, those files under postfix/etc. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 30 18:17:53 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:17:53 -0700 Subject: backup In-Reply-To: <000101c4a6cb$5614eb80$6f0101c0@ltsp> References: <000101c4a6cb$5614eb80$6f0101c0@ltsp> Message-ID: <415C4DD1.9070003@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > Indeed it works > I could kiss you, but you are not a women. Maybe in our next live. Heheheheh! That's OK. I accept cash, too. > > Thank you very much You're quite welcome, Roland. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Stevens > Sent: woensdag 29 september 2004 18:14 > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: backup > > > roland brouwers wrote: > >>I took a backup on the scsi device /dev/rct0 instead of /dev/st0 (i >>was >>used to write rct0 with SCO unix) >>So he took a backup in de file /dev/rct0 with the instruction >>find . -print|cpio -ovBc >/dev/rct0 >>I thought getting the backuped files from this file with >>cpio -ivBc >but this gives the error >>value too large for the defined data type >> >>Could someone help me, otherwise I will be in a deep sh.. > > > Try > > cat /dev/rct0 | cpio -ivBc > > or > > cpio -ivBc -I /dev/rct0 > > instead. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 30 18:23:33 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:23:33 -0700 Subject: Creative SB AWE64 - how to activate In-Reply-To: <1096553445.2131.16.camel@redhat90> References: <1096470049.3663.41.camel@redhat90> <20040929154846.GA19180@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <1096553445.2131.16.camel@redhat90> Message-ID: <415C4F25.2010708@vitalstream.com> Chris A Czerwinski wrote: > On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 11:48, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >>On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 11:00:49AM -0400, Chris A Czerwinski wrote: >> >>>I was able to find the following on my system >>> >>>[root usr/sbin/sndconfig]#ls -al sndconfig >>> sndconfig -> ../../sbin/sndconfig {a link} >>> >>>[root usr/share/sndconfig]#ls -al >>> sample2.au {a file} >>> sample.au {a file} >>> sample.midi {a file} >>> >>>[root sbin]# ls -al sndconfig >>>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 263776 Feb 7 2003 sndconfig >>> >>>[root sbin]# sndconfig >>>bash: sndconfig: command not found >>> >>>So HOW can I activate my sound card??? >>> >>>Chris Cz (still a Newbie) >> >>How did you become root? If you did "su", you got root's identity but >>not his environment, especially his PATH, so you can't execute stuff >>in /sbin or /usr/sbin without specifying the full path, >>e.g. /usr/sbin/sndconfig. If you do "su -", you will get root's >>complete world including PATH, just as if you logged in as root to >>begin with. "man su" for more info. >> >>Cheers, > > > Bob, > > Great to have asked this People Knowledge Base because it works. > Didn't know a "-" (dash) could make a difference, that did the trick. For a bit more explanation, "su [username]" only changes your effective UID and GID to that of "username" (if "username" is omitted, it defaults to "root"). The rest of the environment remains the same (path, variables, etc.). "su - [username]" essentially does a full log in as the named user including setting up the environment, paths and by running the user's login scripts (profile, .bashrc, etc.). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Sep 30 18:26:59 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:26:59 -0500 Subject: Postfix question In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <20040930182659.GA8064@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 11:17:40AM -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:12 AM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: Postfix question > > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:30:01AM -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > Under a directory > > > > > > /var/spool/postfix/etc > > > > > > There are files such as hosts, resolv.conf, etc. Which are > > supposed > > > to be copies of the /etc files. > > > > > > Why aren't these files just links to /etc so it would > > always test ok, > > > and if those files changed, postfix would change > > automatically (minus > > > having to run reload). > > > > They might possibly be hard links, but only if /etc and > > /var/spool/postfix/etc are on the same filesystem. A symlink > > won't work in the chroot environment. But some editors or > > change processes will break hard links, so that may not even work. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. > > They aren't hard links, editing one, doesn't show up as a change in the > other. No, I know they are not. Sorry, I should have clarified. When Postfix is installed, those files are simply copied by the installation script. What I should have said is that they _could_ (maybe) be made hard links. > So the question becomes, does postfix modify in anyway, those files > under postfix/etc. Not that I know of. But an upgrade of the Postfix RPM might modify them. Don't know about that. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From stuart at sjsears.com Thu Sep 30 17:30:39 2004 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:30:39 +0100 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <415AEC55.5010104@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b040927155055dc6383@mail.gmail.com> <20040928000309.GA4566@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092717253275ea5c@mail.gmail.com> <20040928015834.GB4994@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <5bdc1c8b04092719504cd0c644@mail.gmail.com> <4159B6CA.6040408@vitalstream.com> <008e01c4a59a$44b0f190$1000a8c0@presario> <4159CBD7.8010400@controlnet.com> <415A0EC0.60306@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b0409281838fd4f16b@mail.gmail.com> <415AEC55.5010104@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <415C42BF.5080105@sjsears.com> Rick Stevens wrote (even if I am not really replying to him as such): >> I'm unclear whether you think this would have helped my problem. I >> think not. Using Stuart's info he said grb had two parts. In my case >> grub said 'GRUB' but didn't say 'GRUB second phase loader' or whatever >> that language is. I assume grub cannot find fstab on it's own, >> correct? Grub never looks for /etc/fstab - it is only concerned with firing up the kernel and telling where its root filesystem lives. The rest of your boot process is taken over by the init scripts in /etc/rc.d/ my understanding of your setup is this: MBR of entire disk: third party bootloader first sector of /boot: grub stage 1 in the /boot filesystem: grub stage 2 and its config files. the fact that you got GRUB on the screen in the forst place suggests that the first stage is/was fine, or it would never have run at all. The reason (as I see it) that you didn't get your bootloader menu is that grub stage 1 could not locate and execute grub stage 2, which it looks for by sector. This stands to reason if you moved your partitions about, even if they didn't change their identifiers - the second stage binary will have been moved when you moved the filesystem it sat in. when it just said GRUB, did you have anything else on screen? if not, then it was the first stage only. if you had a grub console prompt then it had loaded the 2nd stage but couldn't find grub.conf > Correct. /etc/fstab is used by the "mount -a" command in the startup > scripts. The MBR part of grub (first stage) needs to know where the > second stage is located. That's what the "root=" thing is for in > grub.conf--it tells grub where /boot is (and hence, where the second > stage loader and the grub config file are). Actually the root= bit is a kernel argument. Unless you meant line 2 below: (in which case sorry for correcting you :-) ) Standard RH entries in grub look like this (with explanatory notes...) 1. title 2. root (hd0,0) where is your /boot FS? It just means ' the files on the following two lines are on this filesystem'. Saves typing (hd0,0) or similar on every line... (hd0,0) == /dev/hda1 in normal linux speak 3 kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-4.EL ro root=LABEL=/ which kernel (relative to (hd0,0) should grub load? the root= bit tells the kernel where its root (/) filesystem is. It needs this info so it can locate and run /sbin/init (first process on your system) 4. initrd /initrd-2.4.21-4.EL.img which initial ramdisk should the kernel unload and use for loading boot-critical modules/device drivers? > >> Labels are sort of nice for my 1394 drives when I need to hook up >> multiple drives and keep them straight, but actually I don't use them >> for my systems. This is also the only place I use these myself. Messing up the LABEL bits either in grub.conf or /etc/fstab causes boot issues a) when the kernel tries to run /sbin/init ( the infamous 'Kernel panic no init found' boot error and b) when /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit tries to check and mount all the filesystems it sees in /etc/fstab. This has a number of issues - mainly caused by duplicate or missing labels. It usually results in the rather unwelcome sulogin prompt 'give root password for maintenance...' > > > Yes, that can be helpful. The main problem with labels is when people > try to have multiple versions of Linux installed on the hard drives. > You know, multiple partitions labeled "/usr" or "/". Which one gets > used when is indeterminate. usually (IIRC) rc.sysinit just fails if it finds duplicate labels Kind Regards Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX '2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2' From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 30 18:32:33 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:32:33 -0700 Subject: Postfix question In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <415C5141.1080909@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] >>Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:12 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: Postfix question >> >>On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:30:01AM -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>Under a directory >>> >>>/var/spool/postfix/etc >>> >>>There are files such as hosts, resolv.conf, etc. Which are >> >>supposed >> >>>to be copies of the /etc files. >>> >>>Why aren't these files just links to /etc so it would >> >>always test ok, >> >>>and if those files changed, postfix would change >> >>automatically (minus >> >>>having to run reload). >> >>They might possibly be hard links, but only if /etc and >>/var/spool/postfix/etc are on the same filesystem. A symlink >>won't work in the chroot environment. But some editors or >>change processes will break hard links, so that may not even work. >> >>Cheers, >>-- >>Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >>robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. > > > They aren't hard links, editing one, doesn't show up as a change in the > other. > > So the question becomes, does postfix modify in anyway, those files > under postfix/etc. No, it doesn't modify the files, but remember that postfix runs in a chrooted environment. Links (be they symbolic or hard) can't back up beyond what the chroot directory is, so postfix won't be able to see the targets of the links. That's why it needs local copies and not links to the system files. This is similar to setting up a chrooted anonymous FTP server...if you want user and group names to be displayed for the "ls" command, the FTP server must have copies of /etc/passwd and /etc/group in its own filesystem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - This message printed using recycled bandwidth - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Sep 30 18:47:12 2004 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:47:12 -0700 Subject: Postfix question Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F1@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:33 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Postfix question > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > >>Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:12 AM > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>Subject: Re: Postfix question > >> > >>On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:30:01AM -0700, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> > >>>Under a directory > >>> > >>>/var/spool/postfix/etc > >>> > >>>There are files such as hosts, resolv.conf, etc. Which are > >> > >>supposed > >> > >>>to be copies of the /etc files. > >>> > >>>Why aren't these files just links to /etc so it would > >> > >>always test ok, > >> > >>>and if those files changed, postfix would change > >> > >>automatically (minus > >> > >>>having to run reload). > >> > >>They might possibly be hard links, but only if /etc and > >>/var/spool/postfix/etc are on the same filesystem. A symlink won't > >>work in the chroot environment. But some editors or change > processes > >>will break hard links, so that may not even work. > >> > >>Cheers, > >>-- > >>Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > >>robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. > > > > > > They aren't hard links, editing one, doesn't show up as a change in > > the other. > > > > So the question becomes, does postfix modify in anyway, those files > > under postfix/etc. > > No, it doesn't modify the files, but remember that postfix > runs in a chrooted environment. Links (be they symbolic or > hard) can't back up beyond what the chroot directory is, so > postfix won't be able to see the targets of the links. That's > why it needs local copies and not links to the system files. > > This is similar to setting up a chrooted anonymous FTP > server...if you want user and group names to be displayed for > the "ls" command, the FTP server must have copies of > /etc/passwd and /etc/group in its own filesystem. This is where I don't understand. Under an ext3 filesystem (one I'm more familiar with). If you create a hard link between two files, they now share the same inode. So why would you have an issue with being at to backup beyond what the chroot directory is? Postfix should just see that hosts under postfix/etc is a file and not know that it's a hard link. :confused: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Sep 30 18:49:28 2004 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:49:28 -0500 Subject: Postfix question In-Reply-To: <415C5141.1080909@vitalstream.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <415C5141.1080909@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20040930184928.GA8166@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 11:32:33AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > >They aren't hard links, editing one, doesn't show up as a change in the > >other. > > > >So the question becomes, does postfix modify in anyway, those files > >under postfix/etc. > > No, it doesn't modify the files, but remember that postfix runs in a > chrooted environment. Links (be they symbolic or hard) can't back up > beyond what the chroot directory is, so postfix won't be able to see the > targets of the links. That's why it needs local copies and not links > to the system files. Umm, I disagree about hard links. In the chrooted environment, /etc/passwd contains the same inode that /etc/passwd does in the real world. So changes made to it (as long as the inode doesn't change) in the real world will be seen in the chroot environment. But as I mentioned earlier you couldn't hard-link them anyway if they are on separate filesystems. I normally put /var/spool on a different FS on my server installations. > This is similar to setting up a chrooted anonymous FTP server...if you > want user and group names to be displayed for the "ls" command, the FTP > server must have copies of /etc/passwd and /etc/group in its own > filesystem. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - This message printed using recycled bandwidth - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Grace happens. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 30 19:53:24 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:53:24 -0700 Subject: Postfix question In-Reply-To: <20040930184928.GA8166@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <415C5141.1080909@vitalstream.com> <20040930184928.GA8166@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <415C6434.3070003@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 11:32:33AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>They aren't hard links, editing one, doesn't show up as a change in the >>>other. >>> >>>So the question becomes, does postfix modify in anyway, those files >>>under postfix/etc. >> >>No, it doesn't modify the files, but remember that postfix runs in a >>chrooted environment. Links (be they symbolic or hard) can't back up >>beyond what the chroot directory is, so postfix won't be able to see the >>targets of the links. That's why it needs local copies and not links >>to the system files. > > > Umm, I disagree about hard links. In the chrooted environment, > /etc/passwd contains the same inode that /etc/passwd does in the real > world. So changes made to it (as long as the inode doesn't change) in > the real world will be seen in the chroot environment. But as I > mentioned earlier you couldn't hard-link them anyway if they are on > separate filesystems. I normally put /var/spool on a different FS on > my server installations. Well, you're right about the hard linksExactly correct. Hard links only work on the same filesystem for that exact reason--shared inodes. Unless you set up a very weird system where /etc and /var are on the same filesystem (a practice I STRONGLY disagree with), hard links won't work. >>This is similar to setting up a chrooted anonymous FTP server...if you >>want user and group names to be displayed for the "ls" command, the FTP >>server must have copies of /etc/passwd and /etc/group in its own >>filesystem. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- This message printed using recycled bandwidth - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Cheers, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Sep 30 20:26:53 2004 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:26:53 -0700 Subject: Postfix question In-Reply-To: <415C6434.3070003@vitalstream.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB02D2B9F0@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <415C5141.1080909@vitalstream.com> <20040930184928.GA8166@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <415C6434.3070003@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <415C6C0D.1070706@vitalstream.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 11:32:33AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>> >>>> They aren't hard links, editing one, doesn't show up as a change in the >>>> other. >>>> >>>> So the question becomes, does postfix modify in anyway, those files >>>> under postfix/etc. >>> >>> >>> No, it doesn't modify the files, but remember that postfix runs in a >>> chrooted environment. Links (be they symbolic or hard) can't back up >>> beyond what the chroot directory is, so postfix won't be able to see the >>> targets of the links. That's why it needs local copies and not links >>> to the system files. >> >> >> >> Umm, I disagree about hard links. In the chrooted environment, >> /etc/passwd contains the same inode that /etc/passwd does in the real >> world. So changes made to it (as long as the inode doesn't change) in >> the real world will be seen in the chroot environment. But as I >> mentioned earlier you couldn't hard-link them anyway if they are on >> separate filesystems. I normally put /var/spool on a different FS on >> my server installations. Reposting my answer (hit SEND too soon): You're right about the hard links. They will work in a chroot, but hard links can't span filesystems for that exact reason--shared inodes. Unless you set up a weird system where /etc and /var are on the same filesystem (a practice I STRONGLY disagree with), hard links won't work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Thu Sep 30 21:35:38 2004 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:35:38 -0500 Subject: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') In-Reply-To: <415C42BF.5080105@sjsears.com> Message-ID: <002401c4a735$73fafb70$4801a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Stuart > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 12:31 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Grub question (Ahem....help! Now it just says 'GRUB') > > Rick Stevens wrote (even if I am not really replying to him as such): > >> I'm unclear whether you think this would have helped my problem. I > >> think not. Using Stuart's info he said grb had two parts. In my case > >> grub said 'GRUB' but didn't say 'GRUB second phase loader' or whatever > >> that language is. I assume grub cannot find fstab on it's own, > >> correct? > Grub never looks for /etc/fstab - it is only concerned with firing up > the kernel and telling where its root filesystem lives. > The rest of your boot process is taken over by the init scripts in > /etc/rc.d/ > > my understanding of your setup is this: > MBR of entire disk: third party bootloader > first sector of /boot: grub stage 1 > in the /boot filesystem: grub stage 2 and its config files. > > the fact that you got GRUB on the screen in the forst place suggests > that the first stage is/was fine, or it would never have run at all. > The reason (as I see it) that you didn't get your bootloader menu is > that grub stage 1 could not locate and execute grub stage 2, which it > looks for by sector. This stands to reason if you moved your partitions > about, even if they didn't change their identifiers - the second stage > binary will have been moved when you moved the filesystem it sat in. > > when it just said GRUB, did you have anything else on screen? > if not, then it was the first stage only. > if you had a grub console prompt then it had loaded the 2nd stage but > couldn't find grub.conf > > > Correct. /etc/fstab is used by the "mount -a" command in the startup > > scripts. The MBR part of grub (first stage) needs to know where the > > second stage is located. That's what the "root=" thing is for in > > grub.conf--it tells grub where /boot is (and hence, where the second > > stage loader and the grub config file are). > Actually the root= bit is a kernel argument. Unless you meant line 2 > below: (in which case sorry for correcting you :-) ) > Standard RH entries in grub look like this (with explanatory notes...) > 1. title > 2. root (hd0,0) > where is your /boot FS? It just means ' the files on the following two > lines are on this filesystem'. Saves typing (hd0,0) or similar on every > line... (hd0,0) == /dev/hda1 in normal linux speak > 3 kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-4.EL ro root=LABEL=/ > which kernel (relative to (hd0,0) should grub load? > the root= bit tells the kernel where its root (/) filesystem is. It > needs this info so it can locate and run /sbin/init (first process on > your system) > 4. initrd /initrd-2.4.21-4.EL.img > which initial ramdisk should the kernel unload and use for loading > boot-critical modules/device drivers? > > > >> Labels are sort of nice for my 1394 drives when I need to hook up > >> multiple drives and keep them straight, but actually I don't use them > >> for my systems. > This is also the only place I use these myself. Messing up the LABEL > bits either in grub.conf or /etc/fstab causes boot issues > a) when the kernel tries to run /sbin/init ( the infamous 'Kernel panic > no init found' boot error and > b) when /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit tries to check and mount all the > filesystems it sees in /etc/fstab. This has a number of issues - mainly > caused by duplicate or missing labels. It usually results in the rather > unwelcome sulogin prompt 'give root password for maintenance...' > > > > > > > Yes, that can be helpful. The main problem with labels is when people > > try to have multiple versions of Linux installed on the hard drives. > > You know, multiple partitions labeled "/usr" or "/". Which one gets > > used when is indeterminate. > usually (IIRC) rc.sysinit just fails if it finds duplicate labels > > Kind Regards > > Stuart > > -- > Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX > '2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2' > we have all made little mistakes about GRUB and that is probably because it has changed even the original author's code is being maintained and updated by someone else. First mistake, there can be and in most cases there are three stages stage1, stage2, stage1.5. Stage 1 main purpose is to do some bios checks, geometry and other things, but it's main purpose is to load stage 1.5 or stage 2, it is exactly 512 bytes long and it is the routine that is printing "GRUB". It contains the block sector of stage 2 or stage 1.5. It is dumb. Now my mistake, stage 1.5 can be stored right behind the MBR not stage 2. It's main purpose is to load stage 2. It does know one file system and only one. It purpose is to load stage 2 from the file system it knows. It prints its errors in numbers corresponding to stage 2 no error messages. Stage 2 purpose in life is finish loading itself and then it has two methods of booting. 1. it loads the kernel directly or 2. it chain loads another boot loader .... Now in the case under discussion, after looking at the error messages there is error message if the partition is screwed or incorrect. There is no error message for a missing grub.conf so in this case I don't know what happened cause the error message was not printed, so while mistakes were made the final analysis that grub-install should be ran is the correct solution.