From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 1 01:12:31 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:12:31 -0700 Subject: Kogi LCD Monitor Message-ID: <1112317951.3684.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> I checked KOGI and they say their monitor is plug and play for windows, no drivers for Linux. Has anyone got one of these to work in Linux? If so how do I get the resolution above the 800X600? Thanks From ajay197947 at rediffmail.com Fri Apr 1 04:24:51 2005 From: ajay197947 at rediffmail.com (ajay chaudhary) Date: 1 Apr 2005 04:24:51 -0000 Subject: epsonlq2070 driver for suse Message-ID: <20050401042451.2316.qmail@webmail18.rediffmail.com> hello i have a problem in suse, epson lq2070 can not print properly as it does not have exact driver , we try near to it but it does not give good result. i have also tried to find driver on net but in vain. some drivers are available but not for linux. can u pls tell me some good link or what compatible driver i should use. pls help in this matter it is giving me a big problem. as here we have 300+ machines and now they all have been changed from redhat to suse but in redhat driver was available and it works fine but now we can not change this. also if i use lq800 driver in suse it does not properly delete queue "lprm" it shows blank but remains in driver buffer and even we switch of prionter it does not go and prints junk character and remains till 15 min. and then vanishes itself and if i use lq24 driver it deletes queue but does not print properly bad ponts. pls help me ! ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gnichols at tpg.com.au Fri Apr 1 05:00:39 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:00:39 +1000 Subject: epsonlq2070 driver for suse In-Reply-To: <20050401042451.2316.qmail@webmail18.rediffmail.com> References: <20050401042451.2316.qmail@webmail18.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <424CD577.3080405@tpg.com.au> ajay chaudhary wrote: > > hello > i have a problem in suse, epson lq2070 can not print properly as it > does not have exact driver , we try near to it but it does not give > good result. i have also tried to find driver on net but in vain. some > drivers are available but not for linux. > > can u pls tell me some good link or what compatible driver i should use. > pls help in this matter it is giving me a big problem. as here we have > 300+ machines and now they all have been changed from redhat to suse > but in redhat driver was available and it works fine but now we can > not change this. > > also if i use lq800 driver in suse it does not properly delete queue > "lprm" it shows blank but remains in driver buffer and even we switch > of prionter it does not go and prints junk character and remains till > 15 min. and then vanishes itself and if i use lq24 driver it deletes > queue but does not print properly bad ponts. > > pls help me ! > > ajay > Hello Ajay, I had a similar problem with my Epson LQ-300+ printer and could not get a free software printer driver that worked all that well [I didn't get an answer on this list either :-( ]. However, if you wish to spend a few dollars ESP Print Pro from Easy Software at http://www.easysw.com is very good indeed. It comes complete with CUPS (in fact Easy Software are the authors of CUPS we use in Linux) and installs as an rpm file. Also good support. Extremely flexible printing control. I recommend it if you cannot find a 'free' driver. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- No, I'm not interested in developing a powerful brain. All I'm after is just a mediocre brain, something like the president of American Telephone and Telegraph Company. -- Alan Turing on the possibilities of a thinking machine, 1943. From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 1 15:54:28 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:54:28 -0700 Subject: NNTP Message-ID: <200504011554.j31FsZx7023481@mx3.redhat.com> Is there a news server I can add to my Outlook Express? Like redhat.news.com. At work, Internet activities monitored but news readers like Outlook Express are not. So when I have time I would like to download and read in order to learn. Especially any news servers related to New Linux users. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 1 17:07:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:07:15 -0800 Subject: MBR not suitable as boot device; installing to partition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424D7FC3.9070109@vitalstream.com> Oliver Hookins wrote: > I'm setting up a kickstart installation environment for RHEL-ES-4, and > created a kickstart file using the kickstart configuration generator. > When I boot the new machine from the network using the kickstart file > it generates the message: > > * MBR not suitable as boot device; installing to partition > > And proceeds through the rest of the installation. After rebooting, > the machine hangs at the GRUB prompt. Something is not right here, the > commands used in the kickstart file with regard to the disks and > bootloader are as follows: > > bootloader --location=mbr > zerombr yes > clearpart --all --initlabel > > It is installing to SCSI disks in a RAID1 configuration but that > shouldn't make any difference to how GRUB is installed - it hasn't > even reached any partitioning information at this stage. Any ideas? > This definitely wasn't an issue under RHEL-ES-3. You didn't say how the RAID is set up nor which kind of controller its on. ES4 is based on Fedora Core 3 and a 2.6 kernel. RAID controllers are handled a bit different under the 2.6 kernel--especially if it's an I2O-based RAID controller. Check the docs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "I'd explain it to you, but your brain might explode." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 1 17:16:01 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:16:01 -0800 Subject: Linux Recommendations B4 jumping in In-Reply-To: <200503311305.j2VD519b027577@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200503311305.j2VD519b027577@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <424D81D1.4070202@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > > I'm new to Linux, but used Unix many (10)years ago. I want to install > Linux on a new workgroup server in my home. A little background, The home > workgroup has 2 laptops and one desktop. All 3 are WIN XP, and I want to > ghost weekly to a backup drive on the new workgroup File and print server. > I want to make the Linux machine the file and print server. So all it has > to do is host a shared printer, and I will add a 2nd drive most likely > formatted as NTFS so the Laptops / desktop(XP) can ghost to them. Or does > it need to be FAT or FAT 32 so the Linux box can ghost to it as well? NTFS is not a native filesystem to Linux. There are kernel modules that allow access to NTFS filesystems--but only as a convenience to XP/NT users. These modules are built as either read-only or read-write. Due to some oddities in NTFS, read-write is _not_ recommended under Linux. As a result, I'd recommend a FAT32 partition. > I thought this would give me a chance to play with Linux without getting too > complicated at first. The new machine I just bought is a Gateway 504GR > > Inter P4 with Hyperthreading > 200 GIG HD > 512 MG RAM > 7USB and 2Firewire > Double Layer DVD Burner > > So I'm looking for some recommendations. As to latest Linux version, if it's > kernel will have any problems compiling on this machine. I'm not real sure, > but my guess is it won't be too hard to share an HP printer on the Linux > workstation and map an XP machine to it? Just looking for some knowledge > imparted form the experts. The most common issue with Linux is support for the video card in the machine. We'd need to know what card you're using. Sharing a printer isn't a problem. It'd help to know which HP printer you have, just to make sure the Linux machine can print to it as well. You have to have a Linux printer driver to print to it from Linux. A lack of a driver doesn't stop you from sharing the printer--only from printing to it from Linux itself. As to which version of Linux to use...Red Hat Enterprise 4 (in your case, I think workstation would do the job) is a commercially supported Linux, but it does cost money. It is based on Fedora Core 3 (which is free). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Fri Apr 1 17:36:17 2005 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:36:17 -0800 Subject: OT-File recovery Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Do any of you know of a good file recovery utility that works on FAT32 filesystems? Yes, I _know_ I should have had a more recent backup of the system.... Backstory: My wife uses Netscape 7.1 for her email and newsgroups. The first time she would run it after a fresh bootup it would ask which profile to use. There was only one profile, default. This has been vexing her for some time. Wednesday she was sick with a cold and suffering from a fever and when it asked for the profile.... in a fit of pique, she deleted the profile. To make matters worse, she had been planning on moving up to 7.2, which she did right after deleting the profile. So now there is a new "salt" file where the old one was and she has none of her email addresses or important email messages from the past year. I have looked at the drive with PC File Recovery and it did find a couple of emails, but I know it can't track the file past the first cluster it is on. I despair of recovering the information since the settings area has been written to after the file was deleted. Is there a program out there that can try and piece together the clusters? Or at least let me see the data on each cluster so I can recreate as much of the email file as possible? I could boot a linux cd on the computer and mount the drive under linux if there is a linux utility to fit the bill. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Bruce McDonald From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 1 17:45:53 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:45:53 -0800 Subject: Kogi LCD Monitor In-Reply-To: <1112317951.3684.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1112317951.3684.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <424D88D1.6000209@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I checked KOGI and they say their monitor is plug and play for windows, > no drivers for Linux. Has anyone got one of these to work in Linux? If > so how do I get the resolution above the 800X600? Monitors don't have drivers. The resolution on a monitor is dependent on both the video card driver you have AND the monitor itself. It would be very helpful if you could specify which operating system you're running and which video card you have. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 1 17:58:26 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:58:26 -0700 Subject: Kogi LCD Monitor In-Reply-To: <424D88D1.6000209@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200504011758.j31HwVWC015242@mx3.redhat.com> Video card is Intel 8295G/GV/910GL express chip OS is Linux ES4 The display setting in the GUI shows Intel 915 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:46 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor Scott Mertens wrote: > I checked KOGI and they say their monitor is plug and play for > windows, no drivers for Linux. Has anyone got one of these to work in > Linux? If so how do I get the resolution above the 800X600? Monitors don't have drivers. The resolution on a monitor is dependent on both the video card driver you have AND the monitor itself. It would be very helpful if you could specify which operating system you're running and which video card you have. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 20:12:30 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:12:30 -0800 Subject: Changing what Gnome launchers do... Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05040112123f23396a@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm sort of surprised that there isn't some obvious (to me anyway...) gui-based way to change what a launcher on the default FC2 Gnome desktop does. I right click and I can change permissions and icons, but I don't seem to be able to change the actual command it's executing. What am I missing here? How do you do this? I see that there are files actually on the desktop that can be edited in vi. Is this the only way provided? Thanks, Mark From arms780 at bellsouth.net Fri Apr 1 20:06:04 2005 From: arms780 at bellsouth.net (arms780 at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:06:04 -0500 Subject: laptop graphics Message-ID: <20050401200604.YRGF2549.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> I am trying to run Fedora 3 on my HP n5290 laptop, but the only resolution it installs in is 800x600, and it doesn't fill up the entire screen just centered (15 inch LCD). I would like to run it at a higher resolution. Is there a driver or update that I could get my hands on to resolve this? From nandrews at med.umich.edu Fri Apr 1 21:16:40 2005 From: nandrews at med.umich.edu (Nathan Andrews) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:16:40 -0500 Subject: laptop graphics Message-ID: What is the video chipset in the laptop? >>> arms780 at bellsouth.net 4/1/05 3:06:04 PM >>> I am trying to run Fedora 3 on my HP n5290 laptop, but the only resolution it installs in is 800x600, and it doesn't fill up the entire screen just centered (15 inch LCD). I would like to run it at a higher resolution. Is there a driver or update that I could get my hands on to resolve this? ********************************************************** Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 1 21:50:28 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:50:28 -0800 Subject: Kogi LCD Monitor In-Reply-To: <200504011758.j31HwVWC015242@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200504011758.j31HwVWC015242@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <424DC224.9030500@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > > Video card is Intel 8295G/GV/910GL express chip > OS is Linux ES4 > > The display setting in the GUI shows Intel 915 Ok, run "redhat-config-display" or "system-config-display" (or under Gnome, "redhaticon->System Settings->Display"). Click on the "Hardware" tab, then click on the "Configure" button under "Display". Scroll through the "LCD" sections to find the one that your manual says your display can handle, highlight it and click "OK". It should then switch to that mode and ask you if you can see it. If so, click "Yes" and away you go. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:46 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor > > Scott Mertens wrote: > >>I checked KOGI and they say their monitor is plug and play for >>windows, no drivers for Linux. Has anyone got one of these to work in >>Linux? If so how do I get the resolution above the 800X600? > > > Monitors don't have drivers. The resolution on a monitor is dependent on > both the video card driver you have AND the monitor itself. It would be > very helpful if you could specify which operating system you're running and > which video card you have. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 1 23:06:21 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:06:21 -0700 Subject: Kogi LCD Monitor In-Reply-To: <424DC224.9030500@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200504012306.j31N6Q6G031903@mx3.redhat.com> Thanks, that wasn't too painful!! Once you know your way around in this OS -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:50 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor Scott Mertens wrote: > > Video card is Intel 8295G/GV/910GL express chip OS is Linux ES4 > > The display setting in the GUI shows Intel 915 Ok, run "redhat-config-display" or "system-config-display" (or under Gnome, "redhaticon->System Settings->Display"). Click on the "Hardware" tab, then click on the "Configure" button under "Display". Scroll through the "LCD" sections to find the one that your manual says your display can handle, highlight it and click "OK". It should then switch to that mode and ask you if you can see it. If so, click "Yes" and away you go. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Stevens > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:46 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor > > Scott Mertens wrote: > >>I checked KOGI and they say their monitor is plug and play for >>windows, no drivers for Linux. Has anyone got one of these to work in >>Linux? If so how do I get the resolution above the 800X600? > > > Monitors don't have drivers. The resolution on a monitor is dependent > on both the video card driver you have AND the monitor itself. It > would be very helpful if you could specify which operating system > you're running and which video card you have. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 1 23:55:51 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:55:51 -0800 Subject: Kogi LCD Monitor In-Reply-To: <200504012306.j31N6Q6G031903@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200504012306.j31N6Q6G031903@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <424DDF87.70108@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > Thanks, that wasn't too painful!! Once you know your way around in this OS So it's fixed now? Geeze! Easy. Give me hard one sometime so I can stay in practice! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:50 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor > > Scott Mertens wrote: > >> >>Video card is Intel 8295G/GV/910GL express chip OS is Linux ES4 >> >>The display setting in the GUI shows Intel 915 > > > Ok, run "redhat-config-display" or "system-config-display" (or under Gnome, > "redhaticon->System Settings->Display"). Click on the "Hardware" > tab, then click on the "Configure" button under "Display". Scroll through > the "LCD" sections to find the one that your manual says your display can > handle, highlight it and click "OK". It should then switch to that mode and > ask you if you can see it. If so, click "Yes" and away you go. > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick >>Stevens >>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:46 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor >> >>Scott Mertens wrote: >> >> >>>I checked KOGI and they say their monitor is plug and play for >>>windows, no drivers for Linux. Has anyone got one of these to work in >>>Linux? If so how do I get the resolution above the 800X600? >> >> >>Monitors don't have drivers. The resolution on a monitor is dependent >>on both the video card driver you have AND the monitor itself. It >>would be very helpful if you could specify which operating system >>you're running and which video card you have. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Sat Apr 2 00:05:12 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:05:12 -0700 Subject: OK Printers In-Reply-To: <424DDF87.70108@vitalstream.com> References: <200504012306.j31N6Q6G031903@mx3.redhat.com> <424DDF87.70108@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1112400312.32295.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Time to move on to a Printer. Sorry (New to Linux ES4 I think??) Want to share the printer to a windoz workgroup. I have two printers both HP the one I really want to use is an All-In-One OfficeJet 6110, but can't find a way to do the scanning in Linux. The other is a HP 5150. What do I need to set up in Linux to share this printer and make it visable to a XP client? Thanks On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 15:55 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > Thanks, that wasn't too painful!! Once you know your way around in this OS > > So it's fixed now? Geeze! Easy. Give me hard one sometime so I can > stay in practice! > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:50 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor > > > > Scott Mertens wrote: > > > >> > >>Video card is Intel 8295G/GV/910GL express chip OS is Linux ES4 > >> > >>The display setting in the GUI shows Intel 915 > > > > > > Ok, run "redhat-config-display" or "system-config-display" (or under Gnome, > > "redhaticon->System Settings->Display"). Click on the "Hardware" > > tab, then click on the "Configure" button under "Display". Scroll through > > the "LCD" sections to find the one that your manual says your display can > > handle, highlight it and click "OK". It should then switch to that mode and > > ask you if you can see it. If so, click "Yes" and away you go. > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > >>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > >>Stevens > >>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:46 AM > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>Subject: Re: Kogi LCD Monitor > >> > >>Scott Mertens wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I checked KOGI and they say their monitor is plug and play for > >>>windows, no drivers for Linux. Has anyone got one of these to work in > >>>Linux? If so how do I get the resolution above the 800X600? > >> > >> > >>Monitors don't have drivers. The resolution on a monitor is dependent > >>on both the video card driver you have AND the monitor itself. It > >>would be very helpful if you could specify which operating system > >>you're running and which video card you have. > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > >>- - > >>- Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Redhat-install-list mailing list > >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > >>Subject: unsubscribe > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Redhat-install-list mailing list > >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > >>Subject: unsubscribe > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > > - - > > - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Apr 2 00:57:03 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:57:03 -0800 Subject: Changing what Gnome launchers do... In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05040112123f23396a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05040112123f23396a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <424DEDDF.2050200@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I'm sort of surprised that there isn't some obvious (to me > anyway...) gui-based way to change what a launcher on the default FC2 > Gnome desktop does. I right click and I can change permissions and > icons, but I don't seem to be able to change the actual command it's > executing. It's all a bit weird. If it's a true launcher (e.g. one of the ones on the menu bar), a right click on it, then selecting "Properties" should pop up a box that has the name, generic name, comment and command name in it. Modify them as needed and click "Close". That should do it. If you're talking about the icons on the desktop, that's all handled by gconf XML files. A reasonable about of help is available on-line: RedHatIcon->Help->Desktop->System Administration Guide > What am I missing here? How do you do this? I see that there are > files actually on the desktop that can be edited in vi. Is this the > only way provided? No, you can use gconftool-2 to bugger things. It's not difficult, but the first few times can be downright confusing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Microsoft is a cross between The Borg and the Ferengi. - - Unfortunately they use Borg to do their marketing and Ferengi to - - do their programming." -- Simon Slavin - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Apr 2 01:38:52 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:38:52 -0800 Subject: OK Printers In-Reply-To: <1112400312.32295.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200504012306.j31N6Q6G031903@mx3.redhat.com> <424DDF87.70108@vitalstream.com> <1112400312.32295.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <424DF7AC.80000@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > Time to move on to a Printer. Sorry (New to Linux ES4 I think??) > > Want to share the printer to a windoz workgroup. I have two printers > both HP the one I really want to use is an All-In-One OfficeJet 6110, > but can't find a way to do the scanning in Linux. The other is a HP > 5150. What do I need to set up in Linux to share this printer and make > it visable to a XP client? To share either one, you first must set up a queue under Linux. In other words, get it to work in Linux first, then you can move on to sharing it to the Windows world. To share it via Samba, you have to create a share point for it in your /etc/samba/smb.conf file. It's easiest to futz with that if you use swat. As for scanning...I'm not sure. You need to see if there's a backend for it (or another one that works) under sane. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never eat anything larger than your head - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Sat Apr 2 01:57:59 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:57:59 -0700 Subject: OK Printers In-Reply-To: <424DF7AC.80000@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200504020158.j321w48i021398@mx1.redhat.com> There does not seem to be a man page for swat. Can you explain more about it? -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:39 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: OK Printers Scott Mertens wrote: > Time to move on to a Printer. Sorry (New to Linux ES4 I think??) > > Want to share the printer to a windoz workgroup. I have two printers > both HP the one I really want to use is an All-In-One OfficeJet 6110, > but can't find a way to do the scanning in Linux. The other is a HP > 5150. What do I need to set up in Linux to share this printer and > make it visable to a XP client? To share either one, you first must set up a queue under Linux. In other words, get it to work in Linux first, then you can move on to sharing it to the Windows world. To share it via Samba, you have to create a share point for it in your /etc/samba/smb.conf file. It's easiest to futz with that if you use swat. As for scanning...I'm not sure. You need to see if there's a backend for it (or another one that works) under sane. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never eat anything larger than your head - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Apr 2 02:31:16 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:31:16 -0800 Subject: OK Printers In-Reply-To: <200504020158.j321w48i021398@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200504020158.j321w48i021398@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <424E03F4.8090208@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > > There does not seem to be a man page for swat. Can you explain more about > it? Verify that you have swat installed ("rpm -q samba-swat") and if it's not installed, install it. Run swat, then aim your web browser at localhost:901, use your root password and Voila! A GUI-based smb.conf modification tool. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never eat anything larger than your head - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Sat Apr 2 02:37:46 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:37:46 -0700 Subject: OK Printers In-Reply-To: <424E03F4.8090208@vitalstream.com> References: <200504020158.j321w48i021398@mx1.redhat.com> <424E03F4.8090208@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1112409466.32644.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> I get "package samba-swat is not installed". I have searched for the swat package, but am unable to locate it. Not under servers, or printing support, where might I find the package? Thanks On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 18:31 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > > > There does not seem to be a man page for swat. Can you explain more about > > it? > > Verify that you have swat installed ("rpm -q samba-swat") and if it's > not installed, install it. > > Run swat, then aim your web browser at localhost:901, use your root > password and Voila! A GUI-based smb.conf modification tool. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Never eat anything larger than your head - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sat Apr 2 18:28:24 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:28:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: Changing what Gnome launchers do... In-Reply-To: <424DEDDF.2050200@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05040112123f23396a@mail.gmail.com> <424DEDDF.2050200@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <13559.198.60.114.90.1112466504.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > Mark Knecht wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm sort of surprised that there isn't some obvious (to me >> anyway...) gui-based way to change what a launcher on the default FC2 >> Gnome desktop does. I right click and I can change permissions and >> icons, but I don't seem to be able to change the actual command it's >> executing. > > It's all a bit weird. If it's a true launcher (e.g. one of the ones on > the menu bar), a right click on it, then selecting "Properties" should > pop up a box that has the name, generic name, comment and command name > in it. Modify them as needed and click "Close". That should do it. > > If you're talking about the icons on the desktop, that's all handled > by gconf XML files. A reasonable about of help is available on-line: > > RedHatIcon->Help->Desktop->System Administration Guide > >> What am I missing here? How do you do this? I see that there are >> files actually on the desktop that can be edited in vi. Is this the >> only way provided? > > No, you can use gconftool-2 to bugger things. It's not difficult, but > the first few times can be downright confusing. Okay, I have to jump in with my archaic method... I too found this very annoying, so I just open a gnome-terminal window, then cd .gnome-desktop and vi the 'offending' launcher and change the line entitled Exec=/path/to/command There you go. Easy as it can be. Why can't the Properties show the command like KDE does? Of course, I use WindowMaker at home and work now; I like it's feel better. I just wish it was updated with newer than RH9 releases... Of course that's another topic. Karl > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "Microsoft is a cross between The Borg and the Ferengi. - > - Unfortunately they use Borg to do their marketing and Ferengi to - > - do their programming." -- Simon Slavin - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Apr 2 21:28:44 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:28:44 -0800 Subject: Changing what Gnome launchers do... In-Reply-To: <13559.198.60.114.90.1112466504.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05040112123f23396a@mail.gmail.com> <424DEDDF.2050200@vitalstream.com> <13559.198.60.114.90.1112466504.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05040213282118b21e@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 2, 2005 10:28 AM, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Hi, > >> I'm sort of surprised that there isn't some obvious (to me > >> anyway...) gui-based way to change what a launcher on the default FC2 > >> Gnome desktop does. I right click and I can change permissions and > >> icons, but I don't seem to be able to change the actual command it's > >> executing. > > > > It's all a bit weird. If it's a true launcher (e.g. one of the ones on > > the menu bar), a right click on it, then selecting "Properties" should > > pop up a box that has the name, generic name, comment and command name > > in it. Modify them as needed and click "Close". That should do it. > > > > If you're talking about the icons on the desktop, that's all handled > > by gconf XML files. A reasonable about of help is available on-line: > > > > RedHatIcon->Help->Desktop->System Administration Guide > > > >> What am I missing here? How do you do this? I see that there are > >> files actually on the desktop that can be edited in vi. Is this the > >> only way provided? > > > > No, you can use gconftool-2 to bugger things. It's not difficult, but > > the first few times can be downright confusing. > > Okay, I have to jump in with my archaic method... I too found this very > annoying, so I just open a gnome-terminal window, then cd .gnome-desktop > and vi the 'offending' launcher and change the line entitled > Exec=/path/to/command > > There you go. Easy as it can be. Why can't the Properties show the command > like KDE does? Of course, I use WindowMaker at home and work now; I like > it's feel better. I just wish it was updated with newer than RH9 > releases... Of course that's another topic. > > Karl > Karl, Yes, this is what I was doing also. It's not so bad, really, once you figure out that there are hidden launcher files on the desktop, but it would be nicer if it was editable in the launcher itself. Cheers, Mark From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 05:25:37 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:25:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: Deleting Files Message-ID: I copied about 2G of files from one Windows Drive to another Windows drive (one machine to another) in my house to give more room to the first machine. I did this from my Linux box using SAMBA to access the two drives. The copy worked fine then after checking to make sure everything was OK I deleted the directory all of these files were under (again from Linux). I did a quick DF and there was no additional space on the Windows drive. I went to the windows machine and checked the space. No improvement. So I did a defrag on the windows machine and no improvement in the space being reported. HELP! the directory is gone along with about 2G of files but I seem to have lost the space too. Suggestions? Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 05:28:15 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:28:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No replies on this ---- Any guesses? Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I installed a Motorola (WR850) wireless router into my existing > home nextwork system (Linksys BEFSR41). Everything seemed to > work fine until I upgraded my wireless noteboot to Linux (FC2). > Everything still seems to work OK but I couldn't access my > printer. I wasn't too concerned as I didn't need to print much > but I've been messing with it and I've discoverd the following. > > I can ping the Motorola (192.168.1.2) and I can ping the Linksys > (192.168.1.1) but I can't ping any of the other computers (all > hooked up to the Linksys). This is probably why I can't find a > printer to print to or share files. > > I'm sure it's probably a permission on the Linksys (guessing > that's where I stop at) but looking at the manual I don't see > what is wrong. > > Has anyone seen/solved this problem? > > Thanks, > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From tpotter at techmarin.com Sun Apr 3 05:48:52 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:48:52 -0800 Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 21:28, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > No replies on this ---- Any guesses? > > Thanks, > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > I installed a Motorola (WR850) wireless router into my existing > > home nextwork system (Linksys BEFSR41). Everything seemed to > > work fine until I upgraded my wireless noteboot to Linux (FC2). > > Everything still seems to work OK but I couldn't access my > > printer. I wasn't too concerned as I didn't need to print much > > but I've been messing with it and I've discoverd the following. > > > > I can ping the Motorola (192.168.1.2) and I can ping the Linksys > > (192.168.1.1) but I can't ping any of the other computers (all > > hooked up to the Linksys). This is probably why I can't find a > > printer to print to or share files. > > > > I'm sure it's probably a permission on the Linksys (guessing > > that's where I stop at) but looking at the manual I don't see > > what is wrong. > > > > Has anyone seen/solved this problem? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > > understand binary and those that don't. > > just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't believe I just typed that. guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. hth -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sun Apr 3 16:54:51 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:54:51 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> References: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Ted Potter wrote: > just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block > space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't > believe I just typed that. > guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. > > trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience > should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. > > hth > Ted, Thanks for the guesses 8^) Let me see if I understand them. G1 - As they are both 192.168.1. I can go from one to the other but not back out. I believe your saying I should change one to 192.168.2. (the wireless as it's only got one machine connected so it should be eaiser). Will that give me any problems getting in and out of other computers? G2 -not sure what a wireless access point is..... Thanks, Brad From tpotter at techmarin.com Sun Apr 3 19:20:17 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 12:20:17 -0700 Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: References: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: <1112556017.3411.16.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Sun, 2005-04-03 at 09:54, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Ted Potter wrote: > > > just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block > > space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't > > believe I just typed that. > > guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. > > > > trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience > > should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. > > > > hth > > > > Ted, > > Thanks for the guesses 8^) > > Let me see if I understand them. > > G1 - As they are both 192.168.1. I can go from one to the other > but not back out. I believe your saying I should change one to > 192.168.2. (the wireless as it's only got one machine connected > so it should be eaiser). Will that give me any problems getting > in and out of other computers? > > G2 -not sure what a wireless access point is..... > > Thanks, > > Brad > here is a link to someone who is doing something close to what you want: http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic1827.html Sorry to be so fuzzy. I have done this once but it was a long time ago. From ohookins at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 07:56:06 2005 From: ohookins at gmail.com (Oliver Hookins) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:56:06 +1000 Subject: MBR not suitable as boot device; installing to partition In-Reply-To: <424D7FC3.9070109@vitalstream.com> References: <424D7FC3.9070109@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Apr 2, 2005 3:07 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Oliver Hookins wrote: > > I'm setting up a kickstart installation environment for RHEL-ES-4, and > > created a kickstart file using the kickstart configuration generator. > > When I boot the new machine from the network using the kickstart file > > it generates the message: > > > > * MBR not suitable as boot device; installing to partition > > > > And proceeds through the rest of the installation. After rebooting, > > the machine hangs at the GRUB prompt. Something is not right here, the > > commands used in the kickstart file with regard to the disks and > > bootloader are as follows: > > > > bootloader --location=mbr > > zerombr yes > > clearpart --all --initlabel > > > > It is installing to SCSI disks in a RAID1 configuration but that > > shouldn't make any difference to how GRUB is installed - it hasn't > > even reached any partitioning information at this stage. Any ideas? > > This definitely wasn't an issue under RHEL-ES-3. > > You didn't say how the RAID is set up nor which kind of controller its > on. ES4 is based on Fedora Core 3 and a 2.6 kernel. RAID controllers > are handled a bit different under the 2.6 kernel--especially if it's > an I2O-based RAID controller. Check the docs. Sorry, it is actually just software RAID. As it turns out it is a known bug - when I filed it in Bugzilla it was marked as a duplicate. Guess we'll have to wait until the next release for a fix and work around this with scripts. Regards, Oliver From ohookins at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 08:08:41 2005 From: ohookins at gmail.com (Oliver Hookins) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:08:41 +1000 Subject: Using %pre scripts for partitioning - RHEL-ES-4 Message-ID: In order to accommodate various partitioning layouts in the most automated fashion possible, I want to use a %pre script to set the layout of the the partitioning based on a kernel parameter that I am setting. For example, in my main kickstart script: %pre #!/bin/sh # Check to see which type of partitioning was specified PART=`cat /proc/cmdline | tr ' ' '\n' | grep '^part=' | cut -d= -f2` if [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdb-srv" ]; then %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-hdb-srv.ks elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdc-srv" ]; then %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-hdc-srv.ks elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-srv" ]; then %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-srv.ks elif [ "$PART" = "ide-freedom" ]; then %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-freedom.ks elif [ "$PART" = "ide-ws" ]; then %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-ws.ks elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid1" ]; then %include /mnt/source/kickstart/scsi-raid1.ks elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid5" ]; then %include /mnt/source/kickstart/scsi-raid5.ks else echo "No partitioning option specified - will prompt for partitioning." fi I'm not sure that this is correct (and it certainly is not working). The administrator guide hasn't made it abundantly clear as to how to do this sort of thing. Each of these files to be included has a bunch of part commands, for example: ide-freedom.ks: # Single disk partitioning. part /boot --fstype ext3 --badblocks --size 500 --asprimary part swap --badblocks --size 2048 --asprimary part / --fstype ext3 --badblocks --size 1 --grow --asprimary Can someone steer me in the right direction? Thanks, Oliver From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 4 16:37:07 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:37:07 -0700 Subject: OK Printers In-Reply-To: <1112409466.32644.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200504020158.j321w48i021398@mx1.redhat.com> <424E03F4.8090208@vitalstream.com> <1112409466.32644.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42516D33.7090603@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I get "package samba-swat is not installed". I have searched for the > swat package, but am unable to locate it. Not under servers, or > printing support, where might I find the package? If you're running Fedora, try "yum install samba-swat". If not, you'll have to hit your favorite repository, download it and install it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 4 16:39:17 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:39:17 -0700 Subject: Deleting Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42516DB5.4040800@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I copied about 2G of files from one Windows Drive to another > Windows drive (one machine to another) in my house to give more > room to the first machine. I did this from my Linux box using > SAMBA to access the two drives. > > The copy worked fine then after checking to make sure everything > was OK I deleted the directory all of these files were under > (again from Linux). > > I did a quick DF and there was no additional space on the > Windows drive. I went to the windows machine and checked the > space. No improvement. So I did a defrag on the windows machine > and no improvement in the space being reported. > > HELP! the directory is gone along with about 2G of files but I > seem to have lost the space too. > > Suggestions? Did you unmount the source drive then remount it? I think Samba holds the drive/directory open. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 4 16:46:18 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:46:18 -0700 Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: References: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: <42516F5A.8080404@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Ted Potter wrote: > > >>just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block >>space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't >>believe I just typed that. >>guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. >> >>trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience >>should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. >> >>hth >> > > > Ted, > > Thanks for the guesses 8^) > > Let me see if I understand them. > > G1 - As they are both 192.168.1. I can go from one to the other > but not back out. I believe your saying I should change one to > 192.168.2. (the wireless as it's only got one machine connected > so it should be eaiser). Will that give me any problems getting > in and out of other computers? Wait...both the Linksys and the Motorola are use the same IP? Bad! You're only allowed one machine per IP per network segment. It's possible you've got conflicting routes. It'd help if you were to show us the config for both the Linksys and Motorola devices, as well as the routing table ("netstat -rn") of a machine having problems. > G2 -not sure what a wireless access point is..... Any radio that connects wireless machines to wired networks is an access point. While the term is generally reserved for devices that do only that, an AP can do other things as well. For example, your wireless routers is also an access point--since it connects wireless devices to your wired network. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The Navy's a bunch of wimps! MY job's an adventure! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Todd.Harrington at suntroncorp.com Mon Apr 4 20:24:45 2005 From: Todd.Harrington at suntroncorp.com (Harrington, Todd) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:24:45 -0500 Subject: Fedora Source Message-ID: <8ECC4E437F806D4884B9FF5CC2D6D75901B86EBB@it-sl00-exch2k3.mylogin.biz> Hi, Using versions of RedHat up to RH 9, the kernel source and headers were included in the distribution and you could choose for them to be installed during installation. Then you could rebuild your source. With Fedora, I do not see this option. I browsed the CD and do not see the kernel source and kernel-headers. Am I required to go to kernel.org to obtain the source for Fedora Core 3? Thanks, Todd Harrington Senior Systems Engineer Suntron Corporation Phone: (978) 747-2048 Fax: (978) 747-2010 todd.harrington at suntroncorp.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 4 20:52:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:52:27 -0700 Subject: Fedora Source In-Reply-To: <8ECC4E437F806D4884B9FF5CC2D6D75901B86EBB@it-sl00-exch2k3.mylogin.biz> References: <8ECC4E437F806D4884B9FF5CC2D6D75901B86EBB@it-sl00-exch2k3.mylogin.biz> Message-ID: <4251A90B.2040202@vitalstream.com> Harrington, Todd wrote: > Hi, > > Using versions of RedHat up to RH 9, the kernel source and headers were included in the distribution and you could choose for them to be installed during installation. Then you could rebuild your source. With Fedora, I do not see this option. I browsed the CD and do not see the kernel source and kernel-headers. Am I required to go to kernel.org to obtain the source for Fedora Core 3? No. FC1 and FC2 both have kernel-source RPMs. FC3 does not, as is described in the release notes...you did read the release notes, didn't you? If not, I'll repeat the relevant bit here (second bullet point after "Package-specific Notes->Core->Kernel"): In order to eliminate the redundancy inherent in providing a separate package for the kernel source code when that source code already exists in the kernel's .src.rpm file, Fedora Core 3 no longer includes the kernel-source package. Users that require access to the kernel sources can find them in the kernel .src.rpm file. To create an exploded source tree from this file, perform the following steps (note that refers to the version specification for your currently-running kernel): 1. Obtain the kernel-.src.rpm file from one of the following sources: * The SRPMS directory on the appropriate "SRPMS" CD iso image * The FTP site where you got the kernel package * By running the following command: up2date --get-source kernel 2. Install kernel-.src.rpm (given the default RPM configuration, the files this package contains will be written to /usr/src/redhat/) 3. Change directory to /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/, and issue the following command: rpmbuild -bp --target= kernel.spec (Where is the desired target architecture.) On a default RPM configuration, the kernel tree will be located in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/. 4. In resulting tree, the configurations for the specific kernels shipped in Fedora Core 3 are in the /configs/ directory. For example, the i686 SMP configuration file is named /configs/kernel--i686-smp.config. Issue the following command to place the desired configuration file in the proper place for building: cp ./.config 5. Issue the following command: make oldconfig You can then proceed as usual. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tariq.samsudeen at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 22:04:06 2005 From: tariq.samsudeen at gmail.com (tariq samsudeen) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:04:06 +0100 Subject: autofs with Red Hat ES Linux Message-ID: <75db1b3b050404150437adceae@mail.gmail.com> hi all, im using autofs with Red Hat ES Linux..... this is regarding autofs....i created a user called "nisuser" under /temp/server/nisuser.....i dont hv any iptables set.....i've changed the directory permission with # setfacl -m u:nisuser:rwx /temp/server/nisuser i added the directory in /etc/exports entry is: /temp/server *(rw,sync) i hv also set the nis in the server side & ran authconfig in client side...... whn i log in as a user john whoz account is in nis server is wrking fine....itz going to the user directory /home/john.... my entry in auto.master /home /etc/auto.home --timeout=60 entry in auto.home nisuser -fstype=nfs 192.168.0.1:/temp/server/nisuser i hv restarted autofs..... whn i login using nisuser, itz saying there is no directory /temp/server/nisuser/! loading with directory / i read from my rhce book which says this will not wrk fine whn v have /home directory in the client computer.... do u hv any suggestions..... From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 03:39:35 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Deleting Files In-Reply-To: <42516DB5.4040800@vitalstream.com> References: <42516DB5.4040800@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > I copied about 2G of files from one Windows Drive to another > > Windows drive (one machine to another) in my house to give more > > room to the first machine. I did this from my Linux box using > > SAMBA to access the two drives. > > > > The copy worked fine then after checking to make sure everything > > was OK I deleted the directory all of these files were under > > (again from Linux). > > > > I did a quick DF and there was no additional space on the > > Windows drive. I went to the windows machine and checked the > > space. No improvement. So I did a defrag on the windows machine > > and no improvement in the space being reported. > > > > HELP! the directory is gone along with about 2G of files but I > > seem to have lost the space too. > > > > Suggestions? > > Did you unmount the source drive then remount it? I think Samba holds > the drive/directory open. I get a device is busy doing an unmount but I've rebooted with the same results (i.e. no change). Very misterious. Thanks, Brad From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Apr 5 04:03:11 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 22:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: <42516F5A.8080404@vitalstream.com> References: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <42516F5A.8080404@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Ted Potter wrote: > > > > > > > just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block > > > space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't > > > believe I just typed that. > > > guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. > > > > > > trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience > > > should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. > > > > > > hth > > > > > > > > > Ted, > > > > Thanks for the guesses 8^) > > > > Let me see if I understand them. > > > > G1 - As they are both 192.168.1. I can go from one to the other > > but not back out. I believe your saying I should change one to > > 192.168.2. (the wireless as it's only got one machine connected > > so it should be eaiser). Will that give me any problems getting > > in and out of other computers? > > Wait...both the Linksys and the Motorola are use the same IP? Bad! > You're only allowed one machine per IP per network segment. > > It's possible you've got conflicting routes. It'd help if you were to > show us the config for both the Linksys and Motorola devices, as well > as the routing table ("netstat -rn") of a machine having problems. > > > G2 -not sure what a wireless access point is..... > > Any radio that connects wireless machines to wired networks is an access > point. While the term is generally reserved for devices that do only > that, an AP can do other things as well. For example, your wireless > routers is also an access point--since it connects wireless devices to > your wired network. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - OK, I think I'm confusing things Linksys - assigned IP 192.168.1.1 Motorola assigned IP 192.168.1.2 Linksys does DHCP for all other addresses. Wireless computer not available right now but it's assigned IP was 192.168.1.107 the other day. I could ping both 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.1 but nothing else on the home network (i.e. 192.168.1.100 my son's computer). My Linux machine has a fixed IP of 192.168.1.50 so others can get their mail. I could not ping that either from 192.168.1.2. I'll get the wireless machine and try it out tomorrow. thanks, Brad From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 5 16:39:42 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:39:42 -0700 Subject: Deleting Files In-Reply-To: References: <42516DB5.4040800@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4252BF4E.9020300@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>>I copied about 2G of files from one Windows Drive to another >>>Windows drive (one machine to another) in my house to give more >>>room to the first machine. I did this from my Linux box using >>>SAMBA to access the two drives. >>> >>>The copy worked fine then after checking to make sure everything >>>was OK I deleted the directory all of these files were under >>>(again from Linux). >>> >>>I did a quick DF and there was no additional space on the >>>Windows drive. I went to the windows machine and checked the >>>space. No improvement. So I did a defrag on the windows machine >>>and no improvement in the space being reported. >>> >>>HELP! the directory is gone along with about 2G of files but I >>>seem to have lost the space too. >>> >>>Suggestions? >> >>Did you unmount the source drive then remount it? I think Samba holds >>the drive/directory open. > > > I get a device is busy doing an unmount but I've rebooted with > the same results (i.e. no change). Very misterious. The word is "mysterious". :-p Did you try "lsof | grep /mountpoint" or "fuser /mountpoint" to see what's got the directory open? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The problem with being poor is that it takes up all of your time - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 5 16:44:23 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:44:23 -0700 Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: References: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <42516F5A.8080404@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4252C067.2000408@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Ted Potter wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block >>>>space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't >>>>believe I just typed that. >>>>guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. >>>> >>>>trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience >>>>should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. >>>> >>>>hth >>>> >>> >>> >>>Ted, >>> >>>Thanks for the guesses 8^) >>> >>>Let me see if I understand them. >>> >>>G1 - As they are both 192.168.1. I can go from one to the other >>>but not back out. I believe your saying I should change one to >>>192.168.2. (the wireless as it's only got one machine connected >>>so it should be eaiser). Will that give me any problems getting >>>in and out of other computers? >> >>Wait...both the Linksys and the Motorola are use the same IP? Bad! >>You're only allowed one machine per IP per network segment. >> >>It's possible you've got conflicting routes. It'd help if you were to >>show us the config for both the Linksys and Motorola devices, as well >>as the routing table ("netstat -rn") of a machine having problems. >> >> >>>G2 -not sure what a wireless access point is..... >> >>Any radio that connects wireless machines to wired networks is an access >>point. While the term is generally reserved for devices that do only >>that, an AP can do other things as well. For example, your wireless >>routers is also an access point--since it connects wireless devices to >>your wired network. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > > OK, I think I'm confusing things > > Linksys - assigned IP 192.168.1.1 > Motorola assigned IP 192.168.1.2 Ah. Ok. > Linksys does DHCP for all other addresses. You're sure? You've verified the Motorola's DHCP (if it has it) is turned off? As Regan once said, "Trust, but verify!" > Wireless computer not available right now but it's assigned IP > was 192.168.1.107 the other day. I could ping both 192.168.1.2 > and 192.168.1.1 but nothing else on the home network (i.e. 192.168.1.100 > my son's computer). My Linux machine has a fixed IP of 192.168.1.50 so > others can get their mail. I could not ping that either from > 192.168.1.2. > > I'll get the wireless machine and try it out tomorrow. Ok. When you get it back up, check the following: "ifconfig -a" and check the IP and the netmask. Your netmask should probably be 255.255.255.0, but 255.255.0.0 will also work (the non- routable network 192.168 is a /16). "netstat -rn" and check the default gateway (the one with "0.0.0.0" under the "destination" column). Verify that the other machines don't have firewalls that block ICMP (ping). > > thanks, > > Brad > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't TOUCH anything!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 5 16:56:06 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:56:06 -0700 Subject: Using %pre scripts for partitioning - RHEL-ES-4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4252C326.3070701@vitalstream.com> Oliver Hookins wrote: > In order to accommodate various partitioning layouts in the most > automated fashion possible, I want to use a %pre script to set the > layout of the the partitioning based on a kernel parameter that I am > setting. > > For example, in my main kickstart script: > > %pre > #!/bin/sh > # Check to see which type of partitioning was specified > PART=`cat /proc/cmdline | tr ' ' '\n' | grep '^part=' | cut -d= -f2` > > if [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdb-srv" ]; then > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-hdb-srv.ks > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdc-srv" ]; then > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-hdc-srv.ks > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-srv" ]; then > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-srv.ks > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-freedom" ]; then > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-freedom.ks > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-ws" ]; then > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-ws.ks > elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid1" ]; then > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/scsi-raid1.ks > elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid5" ]; then > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/scsi-raid5.ks > else > echo "No partitioning option specified - will prompt for partitioning." > fi > > I'm not sure that this is correct (and it certainly is not working). > The administrator guide hasn't made it abundantly clear as to how to > do this sort of thing. Each of these files to be included has a bunch > of part commands, for example: > > ide-freedom.ks: > # Single disk partitioning. > part /boot --fstype ext3 --badblocks --size 500 --asprimary > part swap --badblocks --size 2048 --asprimary > part / --fstype ext3 --badblocks --size 1 --grow --asprimary > > Can someone steer me in the right direction? You've invoked /bin/sh to do this bit of the script and sh doesn't understand the "%include" directive (that's a python construct, not a shell construct). What I'd recommend is that you change: %include /mnt/source/kickstart/name-of-file.ks To: cp /mnt/source/name-of-file.ks /tmp/partitions.ks Then immediately following your "%pre" section, do an %include /tmp/partitions.ks to read in the appropriate partitioning scheme. Sorry it took so long to get to your question. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 6 03:38:12 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 21:38:12 -0600 Subject: Newsreader Message-ID: <1112758692.5506.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) Can anyone tell me what is a good newsreader for Linux Gnome Gui? Does Evolution have one? Since I am very new to Linux, hopefully it will be something I can up2date as at the moment thats all I know how to do. Thanks From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Apr 6 04:00:29 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: <422E3E15.7040009@vitalstream.com> References: <422E3E15.7040009@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Rick, Please see below for my results Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > > > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > Peachy. Essentially, your /etc/exports file on the server would look > > > like: > > > > > > /home/brad 192.168/16(rw,no_root_squash) DONE > > > > > > To manually start the NFS server code: > > > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock start > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start > > > OK no problems reported > > > On the client, you'd add lines to your /etc/fstab that look like: > > > > > > nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint nfs rw 0 0 Did this replaced nfsserver with my ip 192.168.1.103 and mountpoint with /brads > > > > > > If you have that in /etc/fstab, the following two commands will start > > > the NFS client code and automatically mount any NFS volumes it finds > > > in /etc/fstab: > > > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start Tried this and got the error: mount:192.168.1.103:/home/brad failed, reason given by server: Permission denied > > > > > > If you don't have any entries in /etc/fstab, mount the stuff via: > > > > > > mount -t nfs nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint Tried this with the same error I tried changeing the nfsserver to nfsserver and the machine's name but same error > > > > > > If you wish to make these permanent (start NFS server processes and > > > mount them on the NFS client), then you can do the following: > > > > > > On the server: > > > > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 nfslock on > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 nfs on > > > OK no errors > > > On the client: > > > > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 netfs on OK no errors BTW - I can now ping between the two machines. Question - if I get this to work I'll need to hard code the IP address - how would this work if the IP was assigned on boot like it is now? > > > > > > Note that this is only for NFS file sharing. See "man exports" for > > > details on the /etc/exports file and "man 5 nfs" for the available NFS > > > options for /etc/fstab and the "mount -t nfs" command. If you wanted to > > > do it via Samba, I think you already know how since you apparently share > > > that stuff with Windows already. Just think of the Samba shares as > > > Windows shares. > > > > > > As to the printer, run the printer manager GUI stuff on the machine > > > where the printer is attached ("system-config-printer" under FC2/3). > > > Double click on the printer you want to share, then click on the > > > "Sharing..." button at the bottom of the "Edit a print queue" box. Put > > > a check in the "This queue is available to other computers" and "All > > > Hosts" should show up in the list of allowed systems. Click on "OK", > > > then click on the "Apply" icon in the "Printer Configuration" box to > > > restart the queues. > > > > > > Wait a few minutes for the shared queue to get broadcast, then go to the > > > client machine and bring up its printer manager. The queue from the > > > server machine should show up in the "Browsed queues" list. Just double > > > click it, select it as the default, set up the queue name and driver and > > > you should be good to go. > > > > > > Note that the printer(s) exported from the server will be running the > > > "IPP" protocol (internet printing protocol, TCP/UDP port 631), should > > > you need to access them from a machine that doesn't have a GUI or that > > > can't browse queues on the net. If you need to access it via a URL, > > > "ipp://printserver/queuename". RFC 3510 describes the IPP URL. > > > > > > Hope your brain doesn't bleed after all that! :-) > > > > > > OK, the first part - no problem. I don't seem to be able to "share" my > > printers. My server is running RH9.0 ans there isn't a Sharing option that > > I can find in the setup. > > Oh! Fire up the print manager (RHIcon->System Settings->Printing). > Click on "Action" first, then click on "Sharing...". Put a checkmark > in "Automatically find remote shared queues" on BOTH machines, click > "OK" and "Apply". See if the stuff shows up then. If not, it may be > a difference between CUPS and LPrng (I run CUPS). Still no printer but let's get the first part working Thanks Brad From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Apr 6 04:15:34 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Deleting Files In-Reply-To: <4252BF4E.9020300@vitalstream.com> References: <42516DB5.4040800@vitalstream.com> <4252BF4E.9020300@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Thank You it was in a Hidden Trash File!! All, 1703 files... Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > The word is "mysterious". :-p > > Did you try "lsof | grep /mountpoint" or "fuser /mountpoint" to see > what's got the directory open? lsof found it...... From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Apr 6 04:21:31 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:21:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: <4252C067.2000408@vitalstream.com> References: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <42516F5A.8080404@vitalstream.com> <4252C067.2000408@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > > > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Ted Potter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block > > > > > space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't > > > > > believe I just typed that. > > > > > guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. > > > > > > > > > > trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience > > > > > should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. > > > > > > > > > > hth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ted, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the guesses 8^) > > > > > > > > Let me see if I understand them. > > > > > > > > G1 - As they are both 192.168.1. I can go from one to the other > > > > but not back out. I believe your saying I should change one to > > > > 192.168.2. (the wireless as it's only got one machine connected > > > > so it should be eaiser). Will that give me any problems getting > > > > in and out of other computers? > > > > > > Wait...both the Linksys and the Motorola are use the same IP? Bad! > > > You're only allowed one machine per IP per network segment. > > > > > > It's possible you've got conflicting routes. It'd help if you were to > > > show us the config for both the Linksys and Motorola devices, as well > > > as the routing table ("netstat -rn") of a machine having problems. > > > > > > > > > > G2 -not sure what a wireless access point is..... > > > > > > Any radio that connects wireless machines to wired networks is an access > > > point. While the term is generally reserved for devices that do only > > > that, an AP can do other things as well. For example, your wireless > > > routers is also an access point--since it connects wireless devices to > > > your wired network. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > > > > > OK, I think I'm confusing things > > > > Linksys - assigned IP 192.168.1.1 > > Motorola assigned IP 192.168.1.2 > > Ah. Ok. > > > Linksys does DHCP for all other addresses. > > You're sure? You've verified the Motorola's DHCP (if it has it) is > turned off? As Regan once said, "Trust, but verify!" Yep, the Motorola would assign the next address as 192.168.1.3 or at least that's what it says if it wasn't greyed out. > > > Wireless computer not available right now but it's assigned IP > > was 192.168.1.107 the other day. I could ping both 192.168.1.2 > > and 192.168.1.1 but nothing else on the home network (i.e. 192.168.1.100 > > my son's computer). My Linux machine has a fixed IP of 192.168.1.50 so > > others can get their mail. I could not ping that either from > > 192.168.1.2. > > > > I'll get the wireless machine and try it out tomorrow. > > Ok. When you get it back up, check the following: > > "ifconfig -a" and check the IP and the netmask. Your netmask should > probably be 255.255.255.0, but 255.255.0.0 will also work (the non- > routable network 192.168 is a /16). 255.255.255.0 > > "netstat -rn" and check the default gateway (the one with "0.0.0.0" > under the "destination" column). Not good - I went into the Motorola and set up a gateway of 192.168.1.1 (the Linksys machine) and now I can PING the network. Thanks Brad > > Verify that the other machines don't have firewalls that block ICMP > (ping). > > > > > thanks, > > > > Brad > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't TOUCH anything!" - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From gnichols at tpg.com.au Wed Apr 6 04:28:38 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:28:38 +1000 Subject: Newsreader In-Reply-To: <1112758692.5506.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1112758692.5506.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42536576.7050004@tpg.com.au> Scott Mertens wrote: >Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > >Can anyone tell me what is a good newsreader for Linux Gnome Gui? Does >Evolution have one? Since I am very new to Linux, hopefully it will be >something I can up2date as at the moment thats all I know how to do. > >Thanks > > > Evolution 2.0.2 as comes with FC3 has a newsreader. If you do not like that one use Mozilla Thunderbird, also in FC3. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The chief danger in life is that you may take too many precautions. -- Alfred Adler From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Wed Apr 6 04:52:43 2005 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:52:43 -0800 Subject: OT-File recovery In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Bruce On 01-Apr-05, you wrote: > Hello Everyone, > Do any of you know of a good file recovery utility that works on FAT32 > filesystems? > Yes, I _know_ I should have had a more recent backup of the > system.... > Backstory: My wife uses Netscape 7.1 for her email and newsgroups. The > first time she would run it after a fresh bootup it would ask which > profile to use. There was only one profile, default. This has been vexing > her for some time. Wednesday she was sick with a cold and suffering from a > fever and when it asked for the profile.... in a fit of pique, she deleted > the profile. To make matters worse, she had been planning on moving up to > 7.2, which she did right after deleting the profile. So now there is a new > "salt" file where the old one was and she has none of her email addresses > or important email messages from the past year. > I have looked at the drive with PC File Recovery and it did find a couple > of emails, but I know it can't track the file past the first cluster it is > on. > I despair of recovering the information since the settings area has been > written to after the file was deleted. > Is there a program out there that can try and piece together the clusters? > Or at least let me see the data on each cluster so I can recreate as much > of the email file as possible? > I could boot a linux cd on the computer and mount the drive under linux if > there is a linux utility to fit the bill. > Thank you in advance. I hope this was not written off as an April fools joke since it had the unfortunate luck of being written on the 1st. I am still hoping that someone knows something that will help recover the files that were lost. I have tried R-Studio recovery, and while it listed the directories and some of the files; the true files were not there. It seems to have been unable to follow the trail of data over the drive. Any suggestions? Sincerely, Bruce McDonald From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 6 11:34:18 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:34:18 -0600 Subject: Newsreader In-Reply-To: <42536576.7050004@tpg.com.au> References: <1112758692.5506.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42536576.7050004@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <1112787258.6471.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> OK, I must be blind a I can not find a newsreader on Evolution 2.02. I do see it under Thunderbird email, but don't want to have to open another program to read newsgroups if possible. On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 14:28 +1000, Graeme Nichols wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > >Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > > > > >Can anyone tell me what is a good newsreader for Linux Gnome Gui? Does > >Evolution have one? Since I am very new to Linux, hopefully it will be > >something I can up2date as at the moment thats all I know how to do. > > > >Thanks > > > > > > > Evolution 2.0.2 as comes with FC3 has a newsreader. If you do not like > that one use Mozilla Thunderbird, also in FC3. > From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 6 13:37:37 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:37:37 -0600 Subject: SWAT Message-ID: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> I am trying to get SWAT setup so I can set up a printer share. I think Rick said earlier to visit a repository to download and install it as it's not on my system. Can someone let me know where to go to download it? My System; Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-5.0.3.ELsmp #1 SMP Mon Feb 14 10:03:50 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Thanks From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 13:45:43 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 06:45:43 -0700 Subject: SWAT In-Reply-To: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> References: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2005 6:37 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > I am trying to get SWAT setup so I can set up a printer share. I think Rick said earlier to visit > a repository to download and install it as it's not on my system. Can someone let me know where to go > to download it? > > My System; Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-5.0.3.ELsmp #1 SMP Mon Feb 14 10:03:50 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux > > Thanks I don't know this version of RH but it's probably on the original CDs somewhere. In your menus try something like System Settings->Add/Remove applications and then see if you can find it in there. After it's installed you can update ot a newer versionj if one is installed. good luck, Mark From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 6 13:57:43 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:57:43 -0600 Subject: SWAT In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4253EAD7.9000002@mho.com> Thanks, I've looked in that place but can't find it under servers, Internet or anywhere else. So unless it's not listed as SWAT, it's not there. Mark Knecht wrote: >On Apr 6, 2005 6:37 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > > >>I am trying to get SWAT setup so I can set up a printer share. I think Rick said earlier to visit >>a repository to download and install it as it's not on my system. Can someone let me know where to go >>to download it? >> >>My System; Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) >>Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-5.0.3.ELsmp #1 SMP Mon Feb 14 10:03:50 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux >> >>Thanks >> >> > >I don't know this version of RH but it's probably on the original CDs >somewhere. In your menus try something like System >Settings->Add/Remove applications and then see if you can find it in >there. > >After it's installed you can update ot a newer versionj if one is installed. > >good luck, >Mark > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 14:15:23 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:15:23 -0700 Subject: SWAT In-Reply-To: <4253EAD7.9000002@mho.com> References: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> <4253EAD7.9000002@mho.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05040607151e7ca582@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2005 6:57 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > Thanks, I've looked in that place but can't find it under servers, Internet > or anywhere else. So unless it's not listed as SWAT, it's not there. > yum search swat returns samba-swat yum install samba-swat tells me I have the most recent version installed. Try giving yum a try. - Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 16:41:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:41:47 -0700 Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: References: <422E3E15.7040009@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4254114B.7050502@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Rick, > > Please see below for my results > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >>>> >>>>Peachy. Essentially, your /etc/exports file on the server would look >>>>like: >>>> >>>> /home/brad 192.168/16(rw,no_root_squash) > > > DONE > > >>>>To manually start the NFS server code: >>>> >>>> /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start >>>> /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock start >>>> /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start >>>> > > > OK no problems reported > > >>>>On the client, you'd add lines to your /etc/fstab that look like: >>>> >>>> nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint nfs rw 0 0 > > > Did this replaced nfsserver with my ip 192.168.1.103 and > mountpoint with /brads Fine. >>>>If you have that in /etc/fstab, the following two commands will start >>>>the NFS client code and automatically mount any NFS volumes it finds >>>>in /etc/fstab: >>>> >>>> /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start >>>> /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start > > > Tried this and got the error: > mount:192.168.1.103:/home/brad failed, reason given by > server: Permission denied Hmmmm. On the client, try "showmount -e 192.168.1.103" and verify that the server really is exporting the filesystem. Also check your netmask on both the server and client. If they're 255.255.255.0, then change the allowed network in the "/etc/exports" file on the server to "192.168.1.0/24". >>>>If you don't have any entries in /etc/fstab, mount the stuff via: >>>> >>>> mount -t nfs nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint > > > Tried this with the same error As the root user or as a normal user? This should be done as root. > I tried changeing the nfsserver to nfsserver and the machine's > name but same error The line should be: mount -t nfs 192.168.1.103:/home/brad /brads (in fact the "-t nfs" isn't really necessary as the server's export is enough to tell mount that it's an NFS mount). >>>>If you wish to make these permanent (start NFS server processes and >>>>mount them on the NFS client), then you can do the following: >>>> >>>>On the server: >>>> >>>> chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on >>>> chkconfig --levels 2345 nfslock on >>>> chkconfig --levels 2345 nfs on >>>> > > > OK no errors > > >>>>On the client: >>>> >>>> chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on >>>> chkconfig --levels 2345 netfs on > > > > OK no errors Remember, that doesn't start the processes, it just sets up the stuff in /etc/rc.d/rcX.d. > BTW - I can now ping between the two machines. You couldn't before? > Question - if I get this to work I'll need to hard code the IP > address - how would this work if the IP was assigned on boot like > it is now? If you can't use fixed IPs on the server end, you'll need to set up dynamic DNS and use the DNS name of the server in the mount on the client. Sorry, but DHCP was never meant for server-class machines. > Still no printer but let's get the first part working Yes, one problem at a time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 16:43:46 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:43:46 -0700 Subject: Deleting Files In-Reply-To: References: <42516DB5.4040800@vitalstream.com> <4252BF4E.9020300@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <425411C2.2030105@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Thank You it was in a Hidden Trash File!! All, 1703 files... cha CHING! The dread ".Trash" file. Grrrr! > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>The word is "mysterious". :-p >> >>Did you try "lsof | grep /mountpoint" or "fuser /mountpoint" to see >>what's got the directory open? > > lsof found it...... Bet you'll never forget that command! "lsof" and "fuser" are your friends! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - NEWS FLASH! Intelligence of mankind decreasing! Details at... - - uh, when, uh, the little hand is, uh, on the... Aw, NUTS! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 16:58:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:58:05 -0700 Subject: Router Problem In-Reply-To: References: <1112507332.3411.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <42516F5A.8080404@vitalstream.com> <4252C067.2000408@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4254151D.5070604@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Ted Potter wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>just guessing but you have two routers both using the same ip block >>>>>>space. So how does one router route to the other router. Wow, can't >>>>>>believe I just typed that. >>>>>>guess two: turn the wireless router in to a wireless access point. >>>>>> >>>>>>trust me when I say I am guessing. Someone with network experience >>>>>>should be able to squash my little guesses like bugs. >>>>>> >>>>>>hth >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Ted, >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for the guesses 8^) >>>>> >>>>>Let me see if I understand them. >>>>> >>>>>G1 - As they are both 192.168.1. I can go from one to the other >>>>>but not back out. I believe your saying I should change one to >>>>>192.168.2. (the wireless as it's only got one machine connected >>>>>so it should be eaiser). Will that give me any problems getting >>>>>in and out of other computers? >>>> >>>>Wait...both the Linksys and the Motorola are use the same IP? Bad! >>>>You're only allowed one machine per IP per network segment. >>>> >>>>It's possible you've got conflicting routes. It'd help if you were to >>>>show us the config for both the Linksys and Motorola devices, as well >>>>as the routing table ("netstat -rn") of a machine having problems. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>G2 -not sure what a wireless access point is..... >>>> >>>>Any radio that connects wireless machines to wired networks is an access >>>>point. While the term is generally reserved for devices that do only >>>>that, an AP can do other things as well. For example, your wireless >>>>routers is also an access point--since it connects wireless devices to >>>>your wired network. >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>> >>> >>>OK, I think I'm confusing things >>> >>>Linksys - assigned IP 192.168.1.1 >>>Motorola assigned IP 192.168.1.2 >> >>Ah. Ok. >> >> >>>Linksys does DHCP for all other addresses. >> >>You're sure? You've verified the Motorola's DHCP (if it has it) is >>turned off? As Regan once said, "Trust, but verify!" > > > Yep, the Motorola would assign the next address as 192.168.1.3 or > at least that's what it says if it wasn't greyed out. > > >>>Wireless computer not available right now but it's assigned IP >>>was 192.168.1.107 the other day. I could ping both 192.168.1.2 >>>and 192.168.1.1 but nothing else on the home network (i.e. 192.168.1.100 >>>my son's computer). My Linux machine has a fixed IP of 192.168.1.50 so >>>others can get their mail. I could not ping that either from >>>192.168.1.2. >>> >>>I'll get the wireless machine and try it out tomorrow. >> >>Ok. When you get it back up, check the following: >> >>"ifconfig -a" and check the IP and the netmask. Your netmask should >>probably be 255.255.255.0, but 255.255.0.0 will also work (the non- >>routable network 192.168 is a /16). > > > 255.255.255.0 > > >>"netstat -rn" and check the default gateway (the one with "0.0.0.0" >>under the "destination" column). > > > Not good - I went into the Motorola and set up a gateway of > 192.168.1.1 (the Linksys machine) and now I can PING the network. Hmmm, that smells like the Motorola is also acting as a router. I'd look at it and see if it has multiple operational modes. If it does, you probably want it in "access point" mode. Your Linksys is your router and you don't need two routers. Wireless devices typically have three modes: Access point: An access point typically just takes data on the wired network and transmits it over the wireless. Conversely, received wireless traffic gets transmitted over the wire. In other words, it acts like someone simply attached an antenna to the wired network. It doesn't need an IP address assigned to it as it's just an antenna, but often does for management purposes. Bridge: Connects two segments of a wired network via a radio link. You've probably heard of using microwave links between parts of a LAN? Those microwave sets are acting as a wireless bridge. 802.11a/b/g isn't really great at this due to their relatively short ranges. Again, IPs aren't needed but are often used for management purposes. Client: Acts as a wireless interface for a device that doesn't have one. For example, if you had a hub (note: a hub--not a switch), you could attach it to a wireless client device. You can then plug multiple devices into that hub and let them all share the wireless. Note that the wireless client device needs an IP address of its own, but the devices plugged into the hub use their own IPs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - NEWS FLASH! Intelligence of mankind decreasing! Details at... - - uh, when, uh, the little hand is, uh, on the... Aw, NUTS! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 17:04:20 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:04:20 -0700 Subject: OT-File recovery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42541694.9060403@vitalstream.com> Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello Bruce > > On 01-Apr-05, you wrote: > > >>Hello Everyone, > > >>Do any of you know of a good file recovery utility that works on FAT32 >>filesystems? > > >> Yes, I _know_ I should have had a more recent backup of the >>system.... > > >>Backstory: My wife uses Netscape 7.1 for her email and newsgroups. The >>first time she would run it after a fresh bootup it would ask which >>profile to use. There was only one profile, default. This has been vexing >>her for some time. Wednesday she was sick with a cold and suffering from a >>fever and when it asked for the profile.... in a fit of pique, she deleted >>the profile. To make matters worse, she had been planning on moving up to >>7.2, which she did right after deleting the profile. So now there is a new >>"salt" file where the old one was and she has none of her email addresses >>or important email messages from the past year. > > >>I have looked at the drive with PC File Recovery and it did find a couple >>of emails, but I know it can't track the file past the first cluster it is >>on. >>I despair of recovering the information since the settings area has been >>written to after the file was deleted. > > >>Is there a program out there that can try and piece together the clusters? >>Or at least let me see the data on each cluster so I can recreate as much >>of the email file as possible? > > >>I could boot a linux cd on the computer and mount the drive under linux if >>there is a linux utility to fit the bill. > > > > >>Thank you in advance. > > > I hope this was not written off as an April fools joke since it had the > unfortunate luck of being written on the 1st. I am still hoping that > someone knows something that will help recover the files that were lost. I > have tried R-Studio recovery, and while it listed the directories and some > of the files; the true files were not there. It seems to have been unable > to follow the trail of data over the drive. Any suggestions? It depends on what happened to the filesystem between the time the files were deleted and the time you try to recover them. When a file is deleted, what actually happens is that the directory entry for the file is actually marked as "unused" as are all of the bits of the disk used to make up the file. When new data is written to the disk, the "unused" space is reused as needed. That means that if you delete files, then IMMEDIATELY try to recover them (before anything else gets to try to write to the disk), your odds of recovery are excellent. If, however, something new gets written to the disk, whatever bits of the disk that were reused by the new file are unrecoverable for the old file. Now, as to FAT32 recoveries...there are tons of tools. Norton Utilities is one of the best and it's fairly cheap ($50 or so). If you want freeware, a google search for "file recovery" should net a whole bunch of stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Diplomacy: The art of saying "Nice doggy!" until you can find a - - big enough rock. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 18:23:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:23:15 -0700 Subject: SWAT In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42542913.3090308@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On Apr 6, 2005 6:37 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > >>I am trying to get SWAT setup so I can set up a printer share. I think Rick said earlier to visit >>a repository to download and install it as it's not on my system. Can someone let me know where to go >>to download it? >> >>My System; Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) >>Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-5.0.3.ELsmp #1 SMP Mon Feb 14 10:03:50 EST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux >> >>Thanks > > > I don't know this version of RH but it's probably on the original CDs > somewhere. In your menus try something like System > Settings->Add/Remove applications and then see if you can find it in > there. > > After it's installed you can update ot a newer versionj if one is installed. The RPM name is "samba-swat". Try (as root) "yum install samba-swat". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The Navy's a bunch of wimps! MY job's an adventure! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 19:06:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:06:29 -0700 Subject: SWAT In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05040607151e7ca582@mail.gmail.com> References: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> <4253EAD7.9000002@mho.com> <5bdc1c8b05040607151e7ca582@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42543335.20402@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On Apr 6, 2005 6:57 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > >> Thanks, I've looked in that place but can't find it under servers, Internet >>or anywhere else. So unless it's not listed as SWAT, it's not there. >> > > > yum search swat returns samba-swat > > yum install samba-swat tells me I have the most recent version > installed. Try giving yum a try. Mark, you're using FC3, right? Scott's on Enterprise Linux 4 (based on FC3, but not FC3). I'm not certain the RPMs are the same. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If you can't beat your computer at chess...try kickboxing! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 19:11:46 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:11:46 -0700 Subject: Newsreader In-Reply-To: <1112787258.6471.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1112758692.5506.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42536576.7050004@tpg.com.au> <1112787258.6471.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42543472.8070200@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > OK, I must be blind a I can not find a newsreader on Evolution 2.02. I > do see it under Thunderbird email, but don't want to have to open > another program to read newsgroups if possible. Go to "Tools->Subscribe to Folders" and select your NNTP account. Select the groups you want to subscribe to and click "Subscribe". Details are in section 2.2.2 of Evolution's Help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If you can't beat your computer at chess...try kickboxing! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 19:13:07 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:13:07 -0700 Subject: SWAT In-Reply-To: <42543335.20402@vitalstream.com> References: <4253E621.1020502@mho.com> <5bdc1c8b0504060645102eb21d@mail.gmail.com> <4253EAD7.9000002@mho.com> <5bdc1c8b05040607151e7ca582@mail.gmail.com> <42543335.20402@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050406121371bd6ccf@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2005 12:06 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2005 6:57 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > > > >> Thanks, I've looked in that place but can't find it under servers, Internet > >>or anywhere else. So unless it's not listed as SWAT, it's not there. > >> > > > > > > yum search swat returns samba-swat > > > > yum install samba-swat tells me I have the most recent version > > installed. Try giving yum a try. > > Mark, you're using FC3, right? Scott's on Enterprise Linux 4 (based > on FC3, but not FC3). I'm not certain the RPMs are the same. Hi Rick, Actually FC2 - but I thought my suggestion earlier this morning was identical to yours: yum search swat gives samba-swat, and then yum install samba-swat would install the correct version for his machine. It may well be a different RMP or even swat version from what I'm running. I didn't mean to suggest he should get FC-whatever CDs. If it was taken that way that was not what was intended. All I meant when I looked at the 'install applications' option was that if he could find swat there then it would have come off of his RHEL4 CDs, not my FC2 CDs. Sorry if there was some confusion there. Cheers, Mark From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Wed Apr 6 19:18:54 2005 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 6 Apr 2005 19:18:54 -0000 Subject: Sending mail as a differnt user Message-ID: <20050406191854.7449.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> Hello Everyone, I have a shell script that does some functions and finally sends the report through the command "mail" in the script itself. The script has to be run as root. The script works fine and we do receive emails with the report. But it sends the email as root. I want the mail to be sent as a different user ( might not have account on that system) say someuser at someadddress.com I want to know if its possible?to change the from address to someuser other than root Kindly let me know Thanks TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 6 21:56:10 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:56:10 -0700 Subject: Sending mail as a differnt user In-Reply-To: <20050406191854.7449.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> References: <20050406191854.7449.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <42545AFA.9070102@vitalstream.com> Tech Guy wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have a shell script that does some functions and finally sends the > report through the command "mail" in the script itself. The script has > to be run as root. The script works fine and we do receive emails with > the report. > > But it sends the email as root. I want the mail to be sent as a > different user ( might not have account on that system) say > someuser at someadddress.com > > I want to know if its possible to change the from address to someuser > other than root I'm assuming the script is a simple shell script, so "mail" invokes the standard "/bin/mail" program. In that case, no, you can't spoof it, because mail always sets the sender address as the user who ran it. If, however, you modify the script so it uses sendmail instead, you can spoof it--but only if the user running the script is root. You can use the "-f from-user at somedomain.com" option to sendmail: sendmail -f from-user at somedomain.com sendmail will expect the mail content to be fed to its stdin as mail would. Note that this may cause messages such as: ...root set sender to from-user at somedomain.com using -f to appear in /var/log/maillog. Just wanted to warn you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Careful! Ugly strikes 9 out of 10 people! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Apr 6 23:27:00 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 17:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: <4254114B.7050502@vitalstream.com> References: <422E3E15.7040009@vitalstream.com> <4254114B.7050502@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Rick, I'll answer at top as it's getting long. Read man exports and then played with the exports file. Tried 192.168.1.103(rw,no_root_squash) and it worked then tried 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_root_squash) and it worked. I tried this as the man file said to use wild cards or full names. Don't know why 192.168/16 didn't work but it's working now. NOW lets work on the printers.. Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > Rick, > > > > Please see below for my results > > > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > > understand binary and those that don't. > > > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > > > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Peachy. Essentially, your /etc/exports file on the server would look > > > > > like: > > > > > > > > > > /home/brad 192.168/16(rw,no_root_squash) > > > > > > DONE > > > > > > > > > To manually start the NFS server code: > > > > > > > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start > > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock start > > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start > > > > > > > > > > > OK no problems reported > > > > > > > > > On the client, you'd add lines to your /etc/fstab that look like: > > > > > > > > > > nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint nfs rw 0 0 > > > > > > Did this replaced nfsserver with my ip 192.168.1.103 and > > mountpoint with /brads > > Fine. > > > > > > If you have that in /etc/fstab, the following two commands will start > > > > > the NFS client code and automatically mount any NFS volumes it finds > > > > > in /etc/fstab: > > > > > > > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start > > > > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start > > > > > > Tried this and got the error: > > mount:192.168.1.103:/home/brad failed, reason given by > > server: Permission denied > > Hmmmm. On the client, try "showmount -e 192.168.1.103" and verify that > the server really is exporting the filesystem. Also check your netmask > on both the server and client. If they're 255.255.255.0, then change > the allowed network in the "/etc/exports" file on the server to > "192.168.1.0/24". > > > > > > If you don't have any entries in /etc/fstab, mount the stuff via: > > > > > > > > > > mount -t nfs nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint > > > > > > Tried this with the same error > > As the root user or as a normal user? This should be done as root. > > > I tried changeing the nfsserver to nfsserver and the machine's > > name but same error > > The line should be: > > mount -t nfs 192.168.1.103:/home/brad /brads > > (in fact the "-t nfs" isn't really necessary as the server's export > is enough to tell mount that it's an NFS mount). > > > > > > If you wish to make these permanent (start NFS server processes and > > > > > mount them on the NFS client), then you can do the following: > > > > > > > > > > On the server: > > > > > > > > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on > > > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 nfslock on > > > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 nfs on > > > > > > > > > > > OK no errors > > > > > > > > > On the client: > > > > > > > > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on > > > > > chkconfig --levels 2345 netfs on > > > > > > > > OK no errors > > Remember, that doesn't start the processes, it just sets up the stuff > in /etc/rc.d/rcX.d. > > > BTW - I can now ping between the two machines. > > You couldn't before? > > > Question - if I get this to work I'll need to hard code the IP > > address - how would this work if the IP was assigned on boot like > > it is now? > > If you can't use fixed IPs on the server end, you'll need to set up > dynamic DNS and use the DNS name of the server in the mount on the > client. Sorry, but DHCP was never meant for server-class machines. > > > Still no printer but let's get the first part working > > Yes, one problem at a time. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rajeshb at frontline.com.au Wed Apr 6 23:37:07 2005 From: rajeshb at frontline.com.au (Rajesh) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:37:07 +1000 Subject: root password recovery In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0IEJ0079LTJM1S@starfire.frontline.com.au> Hi All, My previous system admin has installed Red Hat Linux Enterprise server 3.0 on a Sun V20z and left. We don't have the root password to access the machine. How can I change the root password? On sun boxes we can boot with CDROM to single user mode and delete the password entry in the /etc/shadow file. I don't have much Linux skills. Could someone please tell me how I can recover the root password. I don't have any boot floppy or anything for that machine. Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks, Raj. From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Wed Apr 6 23:53:58 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:53:58 -0400 Subject: root password recovery Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC2DF302@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> One way to do it if you can find the install cd (cd 1) Boot off the CD and on the linux prompt type recovery The chroot to /mnt/sysimage then passwd root this will prompt you to enter a new root password. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 ________________________________ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Rajesh Sent: Wed 4/6/2005 7:37 PM To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' Subject: root password recovery Hi All, My previous system admin has installed Red Hat Linux Enterprise server 3.0 on a Sun V20z and left. We don't have the root password to access the machine. How can I change the root password? On sun boxes we can boot with CDROM to single user mode and delete the password entry in the /etc/shadow file. I don't have much Linux skills. Could someone please tell me how I can recover the root password. I don't have any boot floppy or anything for that machine. Any help would be really appreciated. 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5059 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ohookins at gmail.com Thu Apr 7 00:33:41 2005 From: ohookins at gmail.com (Oliver Hookins) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:33:41 +1000 Subject: Using %pre scripts for partitioning - RHEL-ES-4 In-Reply-To: <4252C326.3070701@vitalstream.com> References: <4252C326.3070701@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Apr 6, 2005 2:56 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Oliver Hookins wrote: > > In order to accommodate various partitioning layouts in the most > > automated fashion possible, I want to use a %pre script to set the > > layout of the the partitioning based on a kernel parameter that I am > > setting. > > > > For example, in my main kickstart script: > > > > %pre > > #!/bin/sh > > # Check to see which type of partitioning was specified > > PART=`cat /proc/cmdline | tr ' ' '\n' | grep '^part=' | cut -d= -f2` > > > > if [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdb-srv" ]; then > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-hdb-srv.ks > > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdc-srv" ]; then > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-hdc-srv.ks > > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-srv" ]; then > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-hda-srv.ks > > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-freedom" ]; then > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-freedom.ks > > elif [ "$PART" = "ide-ws" ]; then > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/ide-ws.ks > > elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid1" ]; then > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/scsi-raid1.ks > > elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid5" ]; then > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/scsi-raid5.ks > > else > > echo "No partitioning option specified - will prompt for partitioning." > > fi > > > > I'm not sure that this is correct (and it certainly is not working). > > The administrator guide hasn't made it abundantly clear as to how to > > do this sort of thing. Each of these files to be included has a bunch > > of part commands, for example: > > > > ide-freedom.ks: > > # Single disk partitioning. > > part /boot --fstype ext3 --badblocks --size 500 --asprimary > > part swap --badblocks --size 2048 --asprimary > > part / --fstype ext3 --badblocks --size 1 --grow --asprimary > > > > Can someone steer me in the right direction? > > You've invoked /bin/sh to do this bit of the script and sh doesn't > understand the "%include" directive (that's a python construct, not > a shell construct). > > What I'd recommend is that you change: > > %include /mnt/source/kickstart/name-of-file.ks > > To: > > cp /mnt/source/name-of-file.ks /tmp/partitions.ks > > Then immediately following your "%pre" section, do an > > %include /tmp/partitions.ks > > to read in the appropriate partitioning scheme. Thanks Rick, I think I've got my head around this concept. So it parses the kickstart file a couple of times... copies the appropriate files to /tmp in the %pre section and then on the actual installation %includes the file that was previously copied. I've tried it and it works well, thanks for your help. Now I just have to sort out a number of other funny things happening in my %post script. Thanks, Oliver From gnichols at tpg.com.au Thu Apr 7 01:24:42 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:24:42 +1000 Subject: Newsreader In-Reply-To: <1112787258.6471.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1112758692.5506.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42536576.7050004@tpg.com.au> <1112787258.6471.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42548BDA.4040606@tpg.com.au> Scott Mertens wrote: >OK, I must be blind a I can not find a newsreader on Evolution 2.02. I >do see it under Thunderbird email, but don't want to have to open >another program to read newsgroups if possible. > > Hello Scott, no, not blind, because it isn't obvious. Go to 'Tools' > 'Account Settings' > 'Add Account' and choose 'News Group Account' and then follow the prompts. If you have any more queries give me a shout. Regards, Graeme. >On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 14:28 +1000, Graeme Nichols wrote: > > >>Scott Mertens wrote: >> >> >> >>>Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) >>> >>> >>>Can anyone tell me what is a good newsreader for Linux Gnome Gui? Does >>>Evolution have one? Since I am very new to Linux, hopefully it will be >>>something I can up2date as at the moment thats all I know how to do. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Evolution 2.0.2 as comes with FC3 has a newsreader. If you do not like >>that one use Mozilla Thunderbird, also in FC3. >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > >. > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [Wisdom] is a tree of life to those laying hold of her, making happy each one holding her fast. -- Proverbs 3:18, NSV From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 7 01:28:49 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:28:49 -0700 Subject: root password recovery In-Reply-To: <0IEJ0079LTJM1S@starfire.frontline.com.au> References: <0IEJ0079LTJM1S@starfire.frontline.com.au> Message-ID: <42548CD1.109@vitalstream.com> Rajesh wrote: > Hi All, > > My previous system admin has installed Red Hat Linux Enterprise server 3.0 > on a Sun V20z and left. We don't have the root password to access the > machine. How can I change the root password? On sun boxes we can boot > with CDROM to single user mode and delete the password entry in the > /etc/shadow file. I don't have much Linux skills. Could someone please tell > me how I can recover the root password. I don't have any boot floppy or > anything for that machine. Any help would be really appreciated. Bring the machine up in single user mode. When it comes up to the "#" prompt, use the "passwd" command to change the password. Then enter "exit" to let the machine reboot to normal mode. If you don't know how to boot in single user mode, at the blue boot screen, hit "CTRL-X". At the resulting "boot:" prompt, enter "linux single". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rajeshb at frontline.com.au Thu Apr 7 01:34:16 2005 From: rajeshb at frontline.com.au (Rajesh) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:34:16 +1000 Subject: root password recovery In-Reply-To: <42548CD1.109@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <0IEJ0079LYYQ1S@starfire.frontline.com.au> Thank you very much for your help. I have successfully changed the root password. On Linux is there a tool or command to find the system hardware configuration. "dmesg" command gave me some info about memory and cpu. How can I find out the hard disk information? Regards, Rajesh. Rajesh wrote: > Hi All, > > My previous system admin has installed Red Hat Linux Enterprise server 3.0 > on a Sun V20z and left. We don't have the root password to access the > machine. How can I change the root password? On sun boxes we can boot > with CDROM to single user mode and delete the password entry in the > /etc/shadow file. I don't have much Linux skills. Could someone please tell > me how I can recover the root password. I don't have any boot floppy or > anything for that machine. Any help would be really appreciated. Bring the machine up in single user mode. When it comes up to the "#" prompt, use the "passwd" command to change the password. Then enter "exit" to let the machine reboot to normal mode. If you don't know how to boot in single user mode, at the blue boot screen, hit "CTRL-X". At the resulting "boot:" prompt, enter "linux single". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rajeshb at frontline.com.au Thu Apr 7 01:34:44 2005 From: rajeshb at frontline.com.au (Rajesh) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:34:44 +1000 Subject: root password recovery In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC2DF302@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <0IEJ0079UYZI1S@starfire.frontline.com.au> Thank you very much for your help. Regards, Rajesh. One way to do it if you can find the install cd (cd 1) Boot off the CD and on the linux prompt type recovery The chroot to /mnt/sysimage then passwd root this will prompt you to enter a new root password. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 _____ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Rajesh Sent: Wed 4/6/2005 7:37 PM To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' Subject: root password recovery Hi All, My previous system admin has installed Red Hat Linux Enterprise server 3.0 on a Sun V20z and left. We don't have the root password to access the machine. How can I change the root password? On sun boxes we can boot with CDROM to single user mode and delete the password entry in the /etc/shadow file. I don't have much Linux skills. Could someone please tell me how I can recover the root password. I don't have any boot floppy or anything for that machine. Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks, Raj. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6754 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jomytabraham1 at rediffmail.com Thu Apr 7 07:11:33 2005 From: jomytabraham1 at rediffmail.com (jomy abraham) Date: 7 Apr 2005 07:11:33 -0000 Subject: root password recovery Message-ID: <20050407071133.14179.qmail@webmail52.rediffmail.com> hi the fdisk command will give u information on the hardisk. check out man fdisk for more info. these commands u can try fdisk -l also df -h will give the free disk space regards jt On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 Rajesh wrote : > > >Thank you very much for your help. I have successfully changed the root >password. > >On Linux is there a tool or command to find the system hardware >configuration. "dmesg" command gave me some info about memory and cpu. How >can I find out the hard disk information? > >Regards, >Rajesh. > > >Rajesh wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > My previous system admin has installed Red Hat Linux Enterprise server 3.0 > > on a Sun V20z and left. We don't have the root password to access the > > machine. How can I change the root password? On sun boxes we can boot > > with CDROM to single user mode and delete the password entry in the > > /etc/shadow file. I don't have much Linux skills. Could someone please >tell > > me how I can recover the root password. I don't have any boot floppy or > > anything for that machine. Any help would be really appreciated. > >Bring the machine up in single user mode. When it comes up to the "#" >prompt, use the "passwd" command to change the password. 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URL: From jdunn at sefas.com Thu Apr 7 10:59:20 2005 From: jdunn at sefas.com (John Dunn) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:59:20 +0100 Subject: Samba and domains Message-ID: <000001c53b60$daa9fdc0$3e04050a@johnman> I am having problems getting Samba to work on Red hat 9. I want to add the linux server to the domain and access the linux directories via my domain login on a Windows 2000 PC. I want to replicate the setup I have on an AIX box. The aix smb.conf is listed below. I have the same on linux. I can see the linux server listed in the domain when I browse in windows, but when I click on the icon for the server I get a message that the linux server is notaccessible and the "network path is not found" Any clues? [global] netbios name = DEMO workgroup = DOMAIN security = domain encrypt passwords = yes wins support = yes [4675] comment = For test only path = /home/sefas/director/opd4675/traffic read only = no guest ok = yes From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 7 12:29:39 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:29:39 -0600 Subject: Card Reader Message-ID: <425527B3.40305@mho.com> I have a new computer I installed Linux on Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant), it has one of those all-in-one card readers on it. I have made mountpoints as root as follows for my thumb, Compact flash and secure digital drive. mkdir /mnt/thumb mkdir /mnt/cf mkdir /mnt/sd Now when I tried to mount the Thumb (USB) drive I got an error # mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/thumb mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /mnt/thumb busy. So what have I done wrong? I'm thinking sda2 is wrong, but don't know why? df -h shows the following [root at localhost mnt]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 183G 2.9G 171G 2% / /dev/sda1 99M 19M 76M 20% /boot none 247M 0 247M 0% /dev/shm [root at localhost mnt]# Thanks. From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 7 14:08:38 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:08:38 -0600 Subject: Localhost Message-ID: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> How can I change my computer name from Localhost to an actual sensible name. I think it would have to be changed in the hosts file, but it must have to be changed somewhere else? [scott at localhost ~]$ From diogenes at xenodochy.org Thu Apr 7 15:25:17 2005 From: diogenes at xenodochy.org (Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr.) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:25:17 -0400 Subject: Localhost In-Reply-To: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> References: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:08:38 -0400, Scott Mertens wrote: > How can I change my computer name from Localhost to an actual sensible > name. I think it would have to be changed in the hosts file, but it must > have to be changed somewhere else? > > [scott at localhost ~]$ > I think you can't get rid of "localhost", but you can add a local name to the /etc/hosts file Mine has: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost linux.net xenodochy.org ballroomdances.org I know there is a "real" "www.linux.net" out there on the internet at 195.86.89.114, but if I enter "linux.net", in my browser, I get my local pages served by tux and apache. If I enter "www.linux.net", I get the "real" internet version (which is down right now). This setup allows me to see local copies of my two domains if I enter ballroomdances.org or xenodochy.org without the "www" prefix. If I add the "www" prefix, then my browser will go get the copy from my hosting site. This arrangement is very useful for development. As I understand it the name "localhost" is required for network functioning. Somebody please correct me if my understanding is wrong. -- Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. http://www.xenodochy.org/ralph.html 191 White Oaks Road Williamstown, MA 01267-2259 Phone: 413-458-3597 Home pages: http://www.xenodochy.org http://www.ballroomdances.org ------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM http://www.xenodochy.org/diogenes/antispam.html (If you are thinking about collecting my email address, read the above page first!) -------------------------------------------------------- Keep our semantic environments and cyberspace clean. Always report errors discovered while surfing the web. ------------------------------------------------------ My favorite saying (from general semantics): It's not that seeing is believing, believing is seeing, and we're much better at believing than we are at seeing. http://www.xenodochy.org/ex/quotes/santayana.html From diogenes at xenodochy.org Thu Apr 7 15:47:53 2005 From: diogenes at xenodochy.org (Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr.) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:47:53 -0400 Subject: Samba and domains In-Reply-To: <000001c53b60$daa9fdc0$3e04050a@johnman> References: <000001c53b60$daa9fdc0$3e04050a@johnman> Message-ID: On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:59:20 -0400, John Dunn wrote: > I am having problems getting Samba to work on Red hat 9. > > I want to add the linux server to the domain and access the linux > directories via my domain login on a Windows 2000 PC. > > I want to replicate the setup I have on an AIX box. The aix smb.conf is > listed below. I have the same on linux. > > I can see the linux server listed in the domain when I browse in windows, > but when I click on the icon for the server I get a message that the > linux > server is notaccessible and the "network path is not found" > > Any clues? > > > [global] > netbios name = DEMO > workgroup = DOMAIN > security = domain > encrypt passwords = yes > wins support = yes > > [4675] > comment = For test only > path = /home/sefas/director/opd4675/traffic > read only = no > guest ok = yes > I have "security - SHARE" in mine, but I also have fixed IP addresses in the local network, so mine includes hosts allow = 192.168.0 127. This restricts access to only hosts with those IP addresses. I also have smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd Instead of "read only = no", I have "writable = yes" Hope this helps... -- Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. http://www.xenodochy.org/ralph.html 191 White Oaks Road Williamstown, MA 01267-2259 Phone: 413-458-3597 Home pages: http://www.xenodochy.org http://www.ballroomdances.org ------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM http://www.xenodochy.org/diogenes/antispam.html (If you are thinking about collecting my email address, read the above page first!) -------------------------------------------------------- Keep our semantic environments and cyberspace clean. Always report errors discovered while surfing the web. ------------------------------------------------------ My favorite saying (from general semantics): It's not that seeing is believing, believing is seeing, and we're much better at believing than we are at seeing. http://www.xenodochy.org/ex/quotes/santayana.html From redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com Thu Apr 7 16:28:03 2005 From: redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com (Carl Reynolds) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:28:03 -0500 Subject: Localhost In-Reply-To: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> References: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> Message-ID: <42555F93.2070302@hyperbole-software.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > How can I change my computer name from Localhost to an actual sensible > name. I think it would have to be changed in the hosts file, but it > must have to be changed somewhere else? > > [scott at localhost ~]$ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > Changing the /etc/hosts file won't change your computers name. This file allows you to access other computers by name. To change the host name Applications Menu --> System Settings --> Network. Click on the DNS tab and enter a new host name in the hostname box. Carl. From steven.vandewalle at belgon.be Thu Apr 7 16:28:56 2005 From: steven.vandewalle at belgon.be (Steven Van de Walle - Belgon ICT) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:28:56 +0200 Subject: Driver for Adaptec 2010S raid card for RHEL 3 or CentOS 3.4 Message-ID: Hi I bought a SuperMicro 6014P-8R server with two scsi harddisks and an extra adaptec 2010S scsi raid card. But when I try to install CentOS 3.4 (similar to Redhat Enterprise Linux 3), I got the error: "No hard drives have been found". So I guess I need the appropriate driver for the adaptec scsi card, but where do I find this driver ? I find a driver for RedHat 9 on the website of Adaptec, but not for CentOS or RedHat Enterprise Linux ? What can I do in order to get this server running with CentOS 3.4 ? Any suggestions ? Thank you, Kind regards, Steven -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sda2 14 24321 195254010 8e Linux LVM From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 7 17:18:45 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:18:45 -0600 Subject: Localhost In-Reply-To: <42555F93.2070302@hyperbole-software.com> References: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> <42555F93.2070302@hyperbole-software.com> Message-ID: <42556B75.5070700@mho.com> >> > Changing the /etc/hosts file won't change your computers name. This > file allows you to access other computers by name. > > To change the host name Applications Menu --> System Settings --> > Network. Click on the DNS tab and enter a new host name in the > hostname box. > > Thanks that worked fine!! From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 7 17:22:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:22:08 -0700 Subject: root password recovery In-Reply-To: <20050407071133.14179.qmail@webmail52.rediffmail.com> References: <20050407071133.14179.qmail@webmail52.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <42556C40.4090801@vitalstream.com> jomy abraham wrote: > > hi > > the fdisk command will give u information on the hardisk. check out man > fdisk for more info. > > these commands u can try > > fdisk -l > > also df -h will give the free disk space There is a hardware browser if you're running the GUI (in the "System Tools" menu). If not, check the "/var/log/dmesg" file. Initial boot messages get put in there. The "dmesg" command itself only displays what's currently in dmesg's ring buffer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 7 17:28:38 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:28:38 -0700 Subject: Localhost In-Reply-To: <42556B75.5070700@mho.com> References: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> <42555F93.2070302@hyperbole-software.com> <42556B75.5070700@mho.com> Message-ID: <42556DC6.8050402@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > >>> >> Changing the /etc/hosts file won't change your computers name. This >> file allows you to access other computers by name. >> >> To change the host name Applications Menu --> System Settings --> >> Network. Click on the DNS tab and enter a new host name in the >> hostname box. >> >> > Thanks that worked fine!! If you want the details, the GUI program modifies the computer's name in the "/etc/sysconfig/network" file. /etc/hosts aids in name resolution. By default, when you try to access a computer by name, the system first looks in /etc/hosts to see if there's an IP address for the computer in that file. If so, it is used. If the computer isn't in that file, then the DNS servers are queried. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 7 17:31:09 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:31:09 -0700 Subject: smartd.conf In-Reply-To: <42556B09.1010201@mho.com> References: <42556B09.1010201@mho.com> Message-ID: <42556E5D.4010200@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I am getting a [FAILED] on the bootup for smartd. > > The man pages say this is some sort of disk monitoring service, and I am > wondering if it is failing because my SATA drives are being recognized > as SCSI drives as seem below. > > Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 14 24321 195254010 8e Linux LVM smartd is a daemon that watches SMART-compatible drives. SMART allows the drive to tell the daemon how healthy it is (total number of power on hours, number of power cycles, etc.). It isn't necessary for you to use it--and many drives aren't SMART-compatible. In other words, don't worry about it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Apr 7 17:53:19 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:53:19 -0700 Subject: smartd.conf In-Reply-To: <42556E5D.4010200@vitalstream.com> References: <42556B09.1010201@mho.com> <42556E5D.4010200@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05040710534be3c14c@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 7, 2005 10:31 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > I am getting a [FAILED] on the bootup for smartd. > > > > The man pages say this is some sort of disk monitoring service, and I am > > wondering if it is failing because my SATA drives are being recognized > > as SCSI drives as seem below. > > > > Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux > > /dev/sda2 14 24321 195254010 8e Linux LVM > > smartd is a daemon that watches SMART-compatible drives. SMART allows > the drive to tell the daemon how healthy it is (total number of power > on hours, number of power cycles, etc.). It isn't necessary for you > to use it--and many drives aren't SMART-compatible. > > In other words, don't worry about it. Rick's probably right. If you want to turn it off then look into chkconfig. The command would probably look a bit like this: chkconfig --level 2345 smartd off Currently on my desktop I get: [root at Godzilla root]# chkconfig --list | grep smartd smartd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off [root at Godzilla root]# good luck, Mark From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Thu Apr 7 18:40:54 2005 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 7 Apr 2005 18:40:54 -0000 Subject: Identifying Memory Leaks Message-ID: <20050407184054.402.qmail@webmail50.rediffmail.com> Hello One of our production system crashed twice in a week and I found there was hardly any memory and swap left before the system hung ( both the times). I have Weblogic application server and Apache webserver running on it . There are also some monitoring applications that??s running on it. The memory in the server is 4GB and the SWAP is 2 GB and it consists of four CPUs which should be quite sufficient.OS is RHAS 2.1 Both the times when the system went into hung state there was no memory and swap . I checked the system logs and no logs complained of any insufficient system resources or any kind of h/w failure. I want to know what caused the system to crash and why the memory and swap went down drastically during that period. I also want to know how to identify Memory Leak ? I would like to know the utilization of memory of all the process in the system.( command "ps" is not that helpful) I appreciate if anyone can give your suggestions. I guess lot of them have faced such situations. Please give your inputs. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Apr 7 18:46:04 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:46:04 -0400 Subject: root password recovery Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BCEBB78B@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Or just type hwbrowser to an X display Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Rick Stevens > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:22 PM > To: jomy abraham; Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: root password recovery > > jomy abraham wrote: > > > > hi > > > > the fdisk command will give u information on the hardisk. check out > > man fdisk for more info. > > > > these commands u can try > > > > fdisk -l > > > > also df -h will give the free disk space > > There is a hardware browser if you're running the GUI (in the > "System Tools" menu). > > If not, check the "/var/log/dmesg" file. Initial boot > messages get put in there. The "dmesg" command itself only > displays what's currently in dmesg's ring buffer. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 7 19:14:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:14:05 -0700 Subject: Driver for Adaptec 2010S raid card for RHEL 3 or CentOS 3.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4255867D.7020405@vitalstream.com> Steven Van de Walle - Belgon ICT wrote: > Hi > > > > I bought a SuperMicro 6014P-8R server with two scsi harddisks and an > extra adaptec 2010S scsi raid card. > > But when I try to install CentOS 3.4 (similar to Redhat Enterprise Linux > 3), I got the error: ?No hard drives have been found?. > > So I guess I need the appropriate driver for the adaptec scsi card, but > where do I find this driver ? > > > > I find a driver for RedHat 9 on the website of Adaptec, but not for > CentOS or RedHat Enterprise Linux ? As I see it, that card uses the standard I2O driver. When you boot up, do you see the system reporting that it's loading the i2o driver? It should. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... - - ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ohookins at gmail.com Thu Apr 7 23:49:24 2005 From: ohookins at gmail.com (Oliver Hookins) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:49:24 +1000 Subject: RHEL-ES-4 kickstart %post problems Message-ID: OK sorry for inundating you all with questions but what is happening here doesn't really make sense. Previously we had kickstart scripts set up for RHEL-ES-3 and Fedora Core 2 that worked perfectly. The idea was to set up some bind mounts, install some extra RPMs and set up CFengine. Now even the basic section that sets up the bind mounts is not working. I cannot for the life of me figure out why. Has Redhat changed the shell that the %post script uses? For starters, here is the partitioning layout we use, which is determined from parameters passed to the kernel and included in the %pre script: --------------- # / part raid.00 --size 500 --ondisk=sda part raid.01 --size 500 --ondisk=sdb # swap part raid.10 --size 2048 --ondisk=sda part raid.11 --size 2048 --ondisk=sdb # /var part raid.20 --size 2048 --ondisk=sda part raid.21 --size 2048 --ondisk=sdb # /usr part raid.30 --size 2048 --ondisk=sda part raid.31 --size 2048 --ondisk=sdb # /data part raid.40 --size 1 --grow --ondisk=sda part raid.41 --size 1 --grow --ondisk=sdb # Assemble the RAID devices. raid / --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 raid.00 raid.01 raid swap --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 raid.10 raid.11 raid /var --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 raid.20 raid.21 raid /usr --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 raid.30 raid.31 raid /data --fstype ext3 --level=RAID1 raid.40 raid.41 ---------------- I know that this works, since the drive is empty before this and I have checked that all of the desired partitions and mount points are created. Then, in the %post section, I have some code that determines which partitioning style we selected, and installs grub properly to the MBR (a bug workaround), then sets up the bind mounts: ------------ %post # Fix up Grub installation which is broken in EL4 and FC3 PART=`cat /proc/cmdline | tr ' ' '\n' | grep '^part=' | cut -d= -f2` if [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdb-srv" ]; then grub --batch << EOF device (hd0) /dev/hda root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) device (hd1) /dev/hdb root (hd1,0) setup (hd1) quit EOF elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-hdc-srv" ]; then grub --batch << EOF device (hd0) /dev/hda root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) device (hd1) /dev/hdc root (hd1,0) setup (hd1) quit EOF elif [ "$PART" = "ide-hda-srv" ]; then echo "Single drive GRUB installs are fine." elif [ "$PART" = "ide-freedom" ]; then echo "Single drive GRUB installs are fine." elif [ "$PART" = "ide-ws" ]; then echo "Single drive GRUB installs are fine." elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid1" ]; then grub --batch << EOF device (hd0) /dev/sda root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) device (hd1) /dev/sdb root (hd1,0) setup (hd1) quit EOF elif [ "$PART" = "scsi-raid5" ]; then grub --batch << EOF device (hd0) /dev/sda root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) device (hd1) /dev/sdb root (hd1,0) setup (hd1) device (hd2) /dev/sdc root (hd2,0) setup (hd2) quit EOF else echo "If this was a RAID install, GRUB may not be installed properly." fi # Setup bind mounts. if [ -d /data ] then test -d /var/lib/mysql || mkdir -p /var/lib/mysql test -d /var/lib/pgsql || mkdir -p /var/lib/pgsql mkdir /data/home /data/opt /data/var.lib.mysql /data/var.lib.pgsql cat >> /etc/fstab < ?i want to block ssh/telnet of these ip's in server 172.16.1.0/24 so as no one can login in 172.16.2.0/24 but we also have to proxy ip 172.16.1.39 which need to remain alive. kindly help me out! here's my iptables setting Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination all -- 172.16.1.0/24 172.16.2.0/24 ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.2.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.95 anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- email.philnet anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.176 anywhere tcp dpt:ftp DROP tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ftp ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.2.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:netbios-ssn DROP tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:netbios-ssn ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.2.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.95 anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.176 anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.22 anywhere tcp dpt:telnet DROP tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:telnet ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.2.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:ssh ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.95 anywhere tcp dpt:ssh ACCEPT tcp -- 172.16.1.176 anywhere tcp dpt:ssh DROP tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination all -- 172.16.2.0/24 172.16.1.0/24 ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere 172.16.2.0/24 ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere email.philnet ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere 172.16.1.95 ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere 172.16.1.176 ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere localhost DROP icmp -- anywhere anywhere -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roland at cat.be Fri Apr 8 09:49:03 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:49:03 +0200 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <001a01c53639$96f4f980$6664a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <003601c53c20$33771770$1403fb0a@pccat03> >>Ted Potter wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: >> >>[snip] >> >> >>>>Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with > > the > >>>>terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a >>>>login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the >>>>first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll >> >>bet >> >> >>>>that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would > > get > >>>>you the prompt. >>>> >>>>Can you fix it? Probably not. >> >> >>>>As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It >> >>is >> >> >>>>like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are >> >>waiting >> >> >>>>on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations >> >>that >> >> >>>>hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? >> >> >>It's "PacMan" (no "k"). :-) >> >>First, let's do some preliminary stuff. Get on the Linux machine and > > do > >>some network probing. Start out with "netstat -an | grep :23" to see >>how many current telnet sessions you have running. By default, you're >>limited to 60 concurrent connetions. >> >>Next, by default, the system will try to log the remote hostname. If >>your DNS isn't doing reverse lookups or you don't have the Windows >>boxes' IP addresses and hostnames in the Linux server's /etc/hosts > > file, > >>the system will wait for DNS to time out before allowing the session > > to > >>continue. >> >>Ok, how to fix? Well, if you have more than 60 concurrent sessions, > > you > >>have to ask yourself if that's a legitimate use (60 telnet sessions is >>a LOT, but it depends on your usage). If you need more, you need to > > go > >>into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the "telnet" file. If you need, say, 100 >>concurrent telnet sessions, add in a line that reads: >> >> instances = 100 >> >>If you are having DNS issues, you can disable DNS-related things by >>changing the line: >> >> log_on_failure += USERID >> >>to: >> >> log_on_failure = >> >>Also, add a line: >> >> log_on_success -= HOST >> >>If you started with the original /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file, it should >>look sort of like this after all the editing: >> >># default: on >># description: The telnet server serves telnet sessions; it uses \ >># unencrypted username/password pairs for authentication. >>service telnet >>{ >> disable = no >> instances = 100 >> flags = REUSE >> socket_type = stream >> wait = no >> user = root >> server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd >> log_on_failure = >> log_on_success -= HOST >>} >> >>Once you're done with editing the file, save it and execute: >> >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart >> >>to make xinetd use the new data. >>------------------------------------------------> >>I will continue tomorrow this installation and I have to solve it. >>So I have some questions: >>How can I know that the linuxserver is using DNS, can I trace it? > > > DNS is always used if the hostname or IP address in question isn't in > the /etc/hosts file. > > >>The names of the workstations are not in /etc/hosts. I am using > > K12ltsp > >>which fills it up automatically with some names. Do I have to empty > > it? > > Uh, no. /etc/hosts should contain the names and IP addresses of > machines that aren't in the DNS system. > > >>If one client is going somewhere on the internet to look for the > > server > >>and other clients don't, how can I trace this. > > > I'm not sure what you mean by this. When you try to hit a website or > something on the internet, the first thing the machine does is check its > /etc/hosts file to see if it has the address. If it doesn't, then the > system queries the DNS system to get the address. > > The only way to trace it is to do a tcpdump on the machine in question: > > tcpdump port 53 > > That will show any DNS queries or responses sent over the network. > > >>The server has 2 network cards, one of them is not used at this > > moment, > >>could this be a problem? > > > It rather depends on the routing and how you have things set up. We'd > need to see a network diagram to tell you what's going on. > > >>I only in the testphase, so I am far away from 60 users, so this >>couldn't be the problem. >> >>Thanks again for any help that will get this network into discipline. > > -----------------------------------------------------------> > On all workstations I always get immediately the login prompt, then I > enter the userID and the password and then he waits. > How can DNS play his role on that moment? The server is found, so why > isn't he happy and continuous instead of waiting? And why does he do > this for only some guys or girls? ):-8 > > What does Linux do, after entering the UserId and password? Again, unless you remove the HOST stuff from /etc/xinetd.d/telnet, once you log in the system will try to reverse resolve the IP address that the user came in on and match it to a host name. If the IP address ISN'T in the /etc/hosts file, it queries the DNS servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf for the information. It will wait for up to 1 minute for an answer. If no answer comes, it tries the next server in that list. This continues until all of the servers have been tried or the DNS system gives an answer. > I hope when I wake up tomorrow, the sun will shine. It should, unless we have a nuclear war or major volcanic event. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nothing of this all worked. Apparently the problem lies somewhere els. In this network there is a Mswindow 2003 Domain Server which is configured as a wins server. I disabled named on the LinuxServer and pointed named.conf to the Mswindows server, which makes no sense because I disabled named service, by service named stop. How can both live together without disturbing one eachother. Because I use samba and configured some printers as smb printers I need, I suppose, the wins server. What is the right way to make a symbiosis. I am still praying. ---------------------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is solved. My client uses a windows2003 as DNS server, which only does forward lookups. When they replaced some pc's, apparently they did give them another IP address, so the DNSserver had problems with those, not on the first place because of telnet, but because K12ltsp start a ltspinfo script when you do telnet. I did not find out why. ANOTHER QUESTION?????????????????????? I tried to connect some ms-win-workstations on the network with: Mount -t smbfs -ousername=xxxxx,password=yyyyyy //mypc/c /mnt and this gives an error. All the workstations belong to a mswin domain. My portable which is not part of the domain is connected,without any problem. Any ideas????? From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Fri Apr 8 14:34:18 2005 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 8 Apr 2005 14:34:18 -0000 Subject: Sending mail as a differnt user Message-ID: <20050408143418.23140.qmail@webmail7.rediffmail.com> ?Thanks Rick, As u suggested sendmail works fine with -f option to send as a different user. I need to attach a zip file and some messages in the body. I am not able to achieve this completely. I am using uuencode along with sendmail. I can receive the attachement with this command. " uuencode file.zip file.zip | sendmail -t to-user at mycompany.com " But I need to add some text message in the mail so if I give this command " uuencode file.zip file.zip | sendmail -t to-user at mycompany.com -oi Tech Guy wrote: >>Hello Everyone, >> >>I have a shell script that does some functions and finally sends the report through the command "mail" in the script itself. The script has to be run as root. The script works fine and we do receive emails with the report. >> >>But it sends the email as root. I want the mail to be sent as a different user ( might not have account on that system) say someuser at someadddress.com >> >>I want to know if its possible to change the from address to someuser other than root > >I'm assuming the script is a simple shell script, so "mail" invokes the >standard "/bin/mail" program. In that case, no, you can't spoof it, >because mail always sets the sender address as the user who ran it. > >If, however, you modify the script so it uses sendmail instead, you can >spoof it--but only if the user running the script is root. You can use >the "-f from-user at somedomain.com" option to sendmail: > >sendmail -f from-user at somedomain.com > >sendmail will expect the mail content to be fed to its stdin as mail >would. Note that this may cause messages such as: > > ...root set sender to from-user at somedomain.com using -f > >to appear in /var/log/maillog. 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URL: From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Fri Apr 8 14:37:18 2005 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 06:37:18 -0800 Subject: OT-File recovery In-Reply-To: <42541694.9060403@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hello Rick On 06-Apr-05, you wrote: > Bruce McDonald wrote: >> Hello Bruce >> >> On 01-Apr-05, you wrote: >> >> >>> Hello Everyone, >> >> >>> Do any of you know of a good file recovery utility that works on FAT32 >>> filesystems? >> >> >>> Yes, I _know_ I should have had a more recent backup of the >>> system.... >> >> >>> Backstory: My wife uses Netscape 7.1 for her email and newsgroups. The >>> first time she would run it after a fresh bootup it would ask which >>> profile to use. There was only one profile, default. This has been >>> vexing her for some time. Wednesday she was sick with a cold and >>> suffering from a fever and when it asked for the profile.... in a fit of >>> pique, she deleted the profile. To make matters worse, she had been >>> planning on moving up to 7.2, which she did right after deleting the >>> profile. So now there is a new "salt" file where the old one was and she >>> has none of her email addresses or important email messages from the >>> past year. >> >> >>> I have looked at the drive with PC File Recovery and it did find a >>> couple of emails, but I know it can't track the file past the first >>> cluster it is on. >>> I despair of recovering the information since the settings area has been >>> written to after the file was deleted. >> >> >>> Is there a program out there that can try and piece together the >>> clusters? Or at least let me see the data on each cluster so I can >>> recreate as much of the email file as possible? >> >> >>> I could boot a linux cd on the computer and mount the drive under linux >>> if there is a linux utility to fit the bill. >> >> >> >> >>> Thank you in advance. >> I hope this was not written off as an April fools joke since it had the >> unfortunate luck of being written on the 1st. I am still hoping that >> someone knows something that will help recover the files that were lost. >> I have tried R-Studio recovery, and while it listed the directories and >> some of the files; the true files were not there. It seems to have been >> unable to follow the trail of data over the drive. Any suggestions? > It depends on what happened to the filesystem between the time the files > were deleted and the time you try to recover them. When a file is > deleted, what actually happens is that the directory entry for the file > is actually marked as "unused" as are all of the bits of the disk used > to make up the file. When new data is written to the disk, the "unused" > space is reused as needed. > That means that if you delete files, then IMMEDIATELY try to recover > them (before anything else gets to try to write to the disk), your odds > of recovery are excellent. If, however, something new gets written to > the disk, whatever bits of the disk that were reused by the new file are > unrecoverable for the old file. Thank you for your response Rick. Netscape had been asking what profile to use whenever it was started (there was only the default setup on the machine) this annoyed my wife and she deleted the default profile to see if that would stop the query. Unfortunatly, once the profile was deleted my wife decided that now was the time to upgrade to netscape 7.2. When she opened the upgraded mail and newsreader she noticed that her addressbook was empty and there were no mail accounts or newsgroups. This leads me to believe that the files may be unrecoverable or only partially recoverable. > Now, as to FAT32 recoveries...there are tons of tools. Norton > Utilities is one of the best and it's fairly cheap ($50 or so). If you > want freeware, a google search for "file recovery" should net a whole > bunch of stuff. Oh dear, I just shelled out $80 for R-Studio recovery, though it is supposed to work across a network and with linux and NTFS filesystems. It found a lot of the "junk" we have recently deleted. It also found the file names of the deleted email and newsgroup files from the profile data. Unfortunately, the recovered files were either empty or contained other random data, plus sometimes a tidbit of similar data. This has been bits of email from my folder, which I don't mind so much that it was deleted. Maybe I should get Norton Utiliies and give it a try too. Yet, I don't know if it would have any better luck since the 7.2 profile was written in the same settings folder after the 7.1 profile was deleted. I have been thinking of taking a hex editior to the drive and searching for the data by hand. I know what the netscape email and addressbook files look like, so I could probably find any pieces of the files and rebuild them. Any thoughts on this? Sincerely, Bruce McDonald From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 8 15:01:11 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (smertz) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:01:11 -0600 Subject: Samba Printer Message-ID: <1112972471.4202.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> I did an install of RH ES4 a week ago and am very new to Linux. I want this box to be a file and print server for a home WORKGROUP. So 1st problem, I'm trying to set up a printer to share with my2 WIN XP boxes. They can not see or browse to it in the add printer wizard in XP. My DNS info comes from my ISP, I'm wondering what needs to be set in Globals for domain master browser? Or if Linux needs to be part of the WORKGROUP (It is at the moment). I know there have been volumes written on Samba, and I plan on buying one today, but sharing a printer should be easy - one would think. I want XP users to use their own driver and the guest account for printing. Posting my smb.conf below in case anyone sees anything blatantly wrong. Thanks # Samba config file created using SWAT # from 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) # Date: 2005/04/07 13:48:08 # Global parameters [global] workgroup = HOME server string = Samba Server security = SHARE password server = None passdb backend = guest username map = /etc/samba/smbusers log file = /var/log/samba/%m.log max log size = 50 socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 os level = 34 preferred master = No domain master = No dns proxy = No ldap ssl = no idmap uid = 16666216-33554451 idmap gid = 16666216-33554451 cups options = raw load printers = yes printing = cups printcap name = cups [homes] comment = Home Directories read only = No browseable = No [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba printable = Yes browseable = No public = yes guest ok = yes writable = no printer admin = root [HP6110] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba printable = Yes browseable = No public = yes guest ok = yes writable = no printer admin = root [HP6110] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba printer admin = root read only = No guest ok = Yes printable = Yes printer name = HP6110 use client driver = Yes browseable = No oplocks = Yes From Jack.Allen at McKesson.com Fri Apr 8 20:57:35 2005 From: Jack.Allen at McKesson.com (Allen, Jack) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:57:35 -0400 Subject: Updates after installation of RH AS 3 Message-ID: I installed RH AS 3 on a Dell system using the custom option. I selected all the items I wanted to install and completed the installation with no problems. Now I need to add a few more items that I forgot to install. How do I do that? I started the install again and aborted it because it looked like it wanted to do a complete install again. ------------------------- Jackson C. Allen McKesson Information Solutions 5995 Windward Parkway Alpharetta, GA 30005 (404) 338-2023 Jack.Allen at McKesson.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 8 22:54:11 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:54:11 -0700 Subject: Updates after installation of RH AS 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42570B93.9080006@vitalstream.com> Allen, Jack wrote: > I installed RH AS 3 on a Dell system using the custom option. I selected > all the items I wanted to install and completed the installation with no > problems. Now I need to add a few more items that I forgot to install. > > How do I do that? > > I started the install again and aborted it because it looked like it > wanted to do a complete install again. If you're running it with the Gnome GUI, go to Red Hat Icon->System Settings->Add/Remove Applications Or, at the command line: "redhat-config-packages". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 8 23:11:43 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:11:43 -0700 Subject: Card Reader In-Reply-To: <425527B3.40305@mho.com> References: <425527B3.40305@mho.com> Message-ID: <42570FAF.1010208@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have a new computer I installed Linux on Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES > release 4 (Nahant), it has one of those all-in-one card readers on it. I > have made mountpoints as root as follows for my thumb, Compact flash and > secure digital drive. > > mkdir /mnt/thumb > mkdir /mnt/cf > mkdir /mnt/sd > > Now when I tried to mount the Thumb (USB) drive I got an error # mount > /dev/sda2 /mnt/thumb > mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /mnt/thumb busy. > > So what have I done wrong? I'm thinking sda2 is wrong, but don't know why? > > df -h shows the following > > [root at localhost mnt]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 > 183G 2.9G 171G 2% / > /dev/sda1 99M 19M 76M 20% /boot > none 247M 0 247M 0% /dev/shm > [root at localhost mnt]# First off, keep in mind that RHEL4 will automount the device for you if it can. However, things such as FLASH devices and such will be automounted under the "/media" directory tree. Try plugging in your device, then do a "mount" command to see if the device automounted. If it didn't automount and you have to mount it manually, SCSI devices are numbered as follows: /dev/sdXP where "X" represents the SCSI _device_, and will be the letter a, b, c, d, e, f, etc., depending on when the device was detected during the SCSI scan at boot time. The "P" represents the _partition_ number on that device. So "/dev/sda1" is the first partition on the first SCSI device, "/dev/sdb4" is the fourth partition on the second SCSI device and so on. Since you already show /dev/sda1 as your boot device, we can assume that /dev/sda is a SCSI drive and therefore CAN'T be the FLASH device. As a result, the thumb drive will have to be /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc, depending on how many SCSI devices you have. Try plugging in the thumb drive. If you only have one SCSI drive, then then "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" ("fdisk -l /dev/sdc" if you have two SCSI drives) and see if a partition table is displayed and if it looks like your thumb drive. Once you find it, "mount /dev/scXP /mnt/thumb" (with "X" replaced by the drive letter and "P" by the partition from the fdisk command). You should be good to go. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Sun Apr 10 13:28:23 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 07:28:23 -0600 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: <20050409160059.9C36173E5F@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050409160059.9C36173E5F@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1113139703.29068.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Below > First off, keep in mind that RHEL4 will automount the device for you if > it can. However, things such as FLASH devices and such will be > automounted under the "/media" directory tree. Try plugging in your > device, then do a "mount" command to see if the device automounted. The results of the mount command after thumb drive is plugged in mount /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) The results of navigating to the media directory after plugging in thumb drive [root at RHServer01 media]# ll -a total 32 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 8 20:05 . drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 Apr 8 20:05 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 8 20:05 cdrecorder drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 8 20:05 cdrom [root at RHServer01 media]# > > If it didn't automount and you have to mount it manually, SCSI devices > are numbered as follows: > > /dev/sdXP > > where "X" represents the SCSI _device_, and will be the letter a, b, c, > d, e, f, etc., depending on when the device was detected during the > SCSI scan at boot time. The "P" represents the _partition_ number on > that device. So "/dev/sda1" is the first partition on the first SCSI > device, "/dev/sdb4" is the fourth partition on the second SCSI device > and so on. > > Since you already show /dev/sda1 as your boot device, we can assume that > /dev/sda is a SCSI drive and therefore CAN'T be the FLASH device. As a > result, the thumb drive will have to be /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc, depending > on how many SCSI devices you have. > Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using addre ss 4 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage de vices Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE R ev: 1.22 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: Type: Direct-Access A NSI SCSI revision: 02 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost hald[2876]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 309. R ebasing to 311 Apr 10 07:15:03 localhost hal.hotplug[29216]: timout(10000 ms) waiting for /devi ces/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0 Apr 10 07:15:03 localhost hal.hotplug[29215]: timout(10000 ms) waiting for /devi ces/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0 Apr 10 07:15:13 localhost scsi.agent[29222]: Attribute /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0 000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0/type does not exist > Try plugging in the thumb drive. If you only have one SCSI drive, then > then "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" ("fdisk -l /dev/sdc" if you have two SCSI > drives) and see if a partition table is displayed and if it looks like > your thumb drive. Once you find it, "mount /dev/scXP /mnt/thumb" (with > "X" replaced by the drive letter and "P" by the partition from the > fdisk command). You should be good to go. The result of fdisk is nothing as seen below. [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdc [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb [root at RHServer01 ~]# I was tailing the messages log when plugging in, but can't decipher it. Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using addre ss 4 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage de vices Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE R ev: 1.22 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: Type: Direct-Access A NSI SCSI revision: 02 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost hald[2876]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 309. R ebasing to 311 Apr 10 07:15:03 localhost hal.hotplug[29216]: timout(10000 ms) waiting for /devi ces/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0 Apr 10 07:15:03 localhost hal.hotplug[29215]: timout(10000 ms) waiting for /deviApr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using addre ss 4 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: scsi3 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage de vices Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: Vendor: Generic Model: STORAGE DEVICE R ev: 1.22 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost kernel: Type: Direct-Access A NSI SCSI revision: 02 Apr 10 07:14:48 localhost hald[2876]: Timed out waiting for hotplug event 309. R ebasing to 311 Apr 10 07:15:03 localhost hal.hotplug[29216]: timout(10000 ms) waiting for /devi ces/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0 Apr 10 07:15:03 localhost hal.hotplug[29215]: timout(10000 ms) waiting for /devi ces/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0 Apr 10 07:15:13 localhost scsi.agent[29222]: Attribute /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0 000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0/type does not exist ? ion ? @?1 addre ing addre h ces/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0 Apr 10 07:15:13 localhost scsi.agent[29222]: Attribute /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0 000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0/type does not exist From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 20:52:42 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:52:42 -0600 (MDT) Subject: How to Kill a program Message-ID: I just had a program lock up on me (using RedHat 9.0 and a GUI interface). It use to be you could right click on the stuck programs window and the option to kill it would be there. Now it just lets you close it (which doesn't work in this case). Is there something like under windows (CTL-ALT-DEL) that will let you pick and kill individual programs? Hate to have to log out just to clean something up thats stuck. Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From stuart at sjsears.com Sun Apr 10 20:59:03 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:59:03 +0100 Subject: How to Kill a program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200504102159.03689.stuart@sjsears.com> On Sunday 10 April 2005 21:52, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I just had a program lock up on me (using RedHat 9.0 and a GUI > interface). It use to be you could right click on the stuck > programs window and the option to kill it would be there. Now it > just lets you close it (which doesn't work in this case). > > Is there something like under windows (CTL-ALT-DEL) that will let > you pick and kill individual programs? Hate to have to log out > just to clean something up thats stuck. under KDE it's CTRL-ALT-ESC, click on the window you wish to kill. if you're running GNOME... have you tried ALT-F2, then type xkill, hit ENTER. you can click on the window you wish to close. Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP Stop searching. Happiness is right next to you. Now, if they'd only take a bath ... From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 23:34:06 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:34:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: How to Kill a program In-Reply-To: <200504102159.03689.stuart@sjsears.com> References: <200504102159.03689.stuart@sjsears.com> Message-ID: > under KDE it's CTRL-ALT-ESC, click on the window you wish to kill. > if you're running GNOME... > have you tried ALT-F2, then type xkill, hit ENTER. > you can click on the window you wish to close. > Stuart > -- Thanks, I'll have to remember Alt-F2, works great. From gnichols at tpg.com.au Mon Apr 11 04:16:15 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:16:15 +1000 Subject: Card Reader In-Reply-To: <425527B3.40305@mho.com> References: <425527B3.40305@mho.com> Message-ID: <4259FA0F.5030607@tpg.com.au> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have a new computer I installed Linux on Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES > release 4 (Nahant), it has one of those all-in-one card readers on it. > I have made mountpoints as root as follows for my thumb, Compact flash > and secure digital drive. > > mkdir /mnt/thumb > mkdir /mnt/cf > mkdir /mnt/sd > > Now when I tried to mount the Thumb (USB) drive I got an error # mount > /dev/sda2 /mnt/thumb > mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /mnt/thumb busy. > > So what have I done wrong? I'm thinking sda2 is wrong, but don't know > why? > > df -h shows the following > > [root at localhost mnt]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 > 183G 2.9G 171G 2% / > /dev/sda1 99M 19M 76M 20% /boot > none 247M 0 247M 0% /dev/shm > [root at localhost mnt]# > > Thanks. Your thumb drive may indeed be already mounted. Gnome (FC3) mounts my thumb drive automatically. To see what drives the system sees try the RedHat --> System Tools --> Hardware browser. Look at hard disks. It will tell you what hard disks you have and what the system sees them as eg. sda1 sdb2 etc. Then set up your /etc/fstab file accordingly. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > . > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nasrudin was carrying home a piece of liver and the recipe for liver pie. Suddenly a bird of prey swooped down and snatched the piece of meat from his hand. As the bird flew off, Nasrudin called after it, "Foolish bird! You have the liver, but what can you do with it without the recipe?" From gnichols at tpg.com.au Mon Apr 11 04:21:13 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:21:13 +1000 Subject: Localhost In-Reply-To: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> References: <42553EE6.5010800@mho.com> Message-ID: <4259FB39.50100@tpg.com.au> Scott Mertens wrote: > How can I change my computer name from Localhost to an actual sensible > name. I think it would have to be changed in the hosts file, but it > must have to be changed somewhere else? > > [scott at localhost ~]$ Go to RedHat --> System Settings --. Network. Click on the 'Hosts' tab and enter the name you want in the format 'your name'.localdomain in the 'name column and 'your name' in the alias column. Works for me. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > . > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In dwelling, be close to the land. In meditation, delve deep into the heart. In dealing with others, be gentle and kind. In speech, be true. In work, be competent. In action, be careful of your timing. -- Lao Tsu From Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com Mon Apr 11 04:30:28 2005 From: Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com (Uher, Lubomir) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 05:30:28 +0100 Subject: How to switch - off GUI in RH9.0 Message-ID: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E1479763DABE5E@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> Hello all, I would like to switch off GUI ( GNOME ) after starting of the system. Is there some possibility to change of default mode only to command console ? Many thanks for response. Lubos From tpotter at techmarin.com Mon Apr 11 05:50:35 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:50:35 -0700 Subject: How to switch - off GUI in RH9.0 In-Reply-To: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E1479763DABE5E@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> References: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E1479763DABE5E@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> Message-ID: <1113198634.3310.9.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 21:30, Uher, Lubomir wrote: > Hello all, > > I would like to switch off GUI ( GNOME ) after starting of the system. Is > there some possibility to change of default mode only to command console ? > > Many thanks for response. > > Lubos > edit your /etc/inittab file and change the default run level to 3 From Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com Mon Apr 11 06:42:16 2005 From: Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com (Uher, Lubomir) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:42:16 +0100 Subject: How to switch - off GUI in RH9.0 Message-ID: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E1479763DABE60@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> Many thanks for response. Lubos -----Original Message----- From: Ted Potter [mailto:tpotter at techmarin.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:51 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: How to switch - off GUI in RH9.0 On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 21:30, Uher, Lubomir wrote: > Hello all, > > I would like to switch off GUI ( GNOME ) after starting of the system. Is > there some possibility to change of default mode only to command console ? > > Many thanks for response. > > Lubos > edit your /etc/inittab file and change the default run level to 3 _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From sanni_2005 at india.com Mon Apr 11 07:00:18 2005 From: sanni_2005 at india.com (sanni sanni) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:00:18 +0800 Subject: Power off Message-ID: <20050411070018.C0BB62B2B86@ws5-7.us4.outblaze.com> Hi, I have a pc with Redhat Linux 9, Windows 2000 OS with dual boot support. In Windows 2000 my pc power truns off when I issue 'shut down', but it dosnt happen in case of Linux. Since windows is shutting down the power too, I hope all the hardware support for ACPI is there in my pc. Then why linux is not shutting down power automatically. Plz do help me. Thanks in advance Madhav -- India.com free e-mail - www.india.com. Check out our value-added Premium features, such as an extra 20MB for mail storage, POP3, e-mail forwarding, and ads-free mailboxes! Powered by Outblaze From parek8 at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 16:57:06 2005 From: parek8 at gmail.com (Parek Andrada) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:57:06 -0700 Subject: fc3 evaluation Message-ID: First off be gentle, noob here. I'm trying to evaluate various freeware linux distros to implement as desktop and server. Seems that there's a myriad of distros to choose from and I want to know some people that have gone thru my path. 1. Mandrake seems to be consumer-oriented. Official requires you to pay yearly membership for updates although you can get updates without being a member (no fee) if you urpmi from mirrors other than Mandrake. 2. A lot of red hat-based distros like wbel (very active mailing lists, but just maintained by 1 person), centos (updates regularly as community based), lineox (did not test), Scientific Linux, etc. 3. Suse based, novell (requires fees for updates after 1 free year), yoper (synaptic upgrades) Also tried debian, ubuntu, slackware and freebsd and the more I test the more I get confused on what to use as some has strengths/weaknesses. Now, I just want some honest opinions not biased on some distro although I am biased on fc3 as I am sending to this lists! From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 17:09:18 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:09:18 -0700 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050411100930e71866@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 11, 2005 9:57 AM, Parek Andrada wrote: > First off be gentle, noob here. > > I'm trying to evaluate various freeware linux distros to implement as > desktop and server. Seems that there's a myriad of distros to choose > from and I want to know some people that have gone thru my path. > 1. Mandrake seems to be consumer-oriented. Official requires you to > pay yearly membership for updates although you can get updates without > being a member (no fee) if you urpmi from mirrors other than Mandrake. > 2. A lot of red hat-based distros like wbel (very active mailing > lists, but just maintained by 1 person), centos (updates regularly as > community based), lineox (did not test), Scientific Linux, etc. > 3. Suse based, novell (requires fees for updates after 1 free year), > yoper (synaptic upgrades) > > Also tried debian, ubuntu, slackware and freebsd and the more I test > the more I get confused on what to use as some has > strengths/weaknesses. Now, I just want some honest opinions not biased > on some distro although I am biased on fc3 as I am sending to this > lists! > Hi Parek, I've not had good luck at all with FC3. It hasn't installed cleanly, has trouble during install sometimes if USB devices are attached, and when I did get it installed I had trouble with ndiswrapper. FC3 was a big disappointment to me. I've done far better with FC2. I run 3 machines here at home and we're all happy. To me it's been the best binary distribution I've used. I hope FC4 is better than FC3. One distro you didn't mention but I'm very happy with is Gentoo. It's a real learning experience getting it going but when you do it's real quality stuff. It's very easy IMHO to maintain. If your machines are fast and can stand all the compiling of code then you might consider it. Unlike FCx once installed you never have upgrades to think about - just updates. Cheers, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 11 17:19:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:19:29 -0700 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <425AB1A1.9090100@vitalstream.com> Parek Andrada wrote: > First off be gentle, noob here. Not a problem. > I'm trying to evaluate various freeware linux distros to implement as > desktop and server. Seems that there's a myriad of distros to choose > from and I want to know some people that have gone thru my path. Ok, but these are my opinions and are possibly biased. > 1. Mandrake seems to be consumer-oriented. Official requires you to > pay yearly membership for updates although you can get updates without > being a member (no fee) if you urpmi from mirrors other than Mandrake. Mandrake used to be the "hacker's Linux" and yes, they got kind of "commercial". > 2. A lot of red hat-based distros like wbel (very active mailing > lists, but just maintained by 1 person), centos (updates regularly as > community based), lineox (did not test), Scientific Linux, etc. I think you'll find Red Hat the most commonly implemented (and imitated) distribution, simply because they've been around the longest with a "professional" support team. Also note that a number of the kernel developers (Alan Cox, for instance) are Red Hat employees. The only free version of Red Hat is Fedora Core, and it's technically not a "Red Hat product" (see the disclaimer at http://fedora.redhat.com). > 3. Suse based, novell (requires fees for updates after 1 free year), > yoper (synaptic upgrades) SuSE is a good distribution, seems to have slightly better non-English support and, on occasion, fewer problems with "oddball" hardware than FC, but it is also commercial. > Also tried debian, ubuntu, slackware and freebsd and the more I test > the more I get confused on what to use as some has > strengths/weaknesses. Now, I just want some honest opinions not biased > on some distro although I am biased on fc3 as I am sending to this > lists! The only true free versions you mention are debian, unbuntu and slackware. FreeBSD (and NetBSD, for that matter) are not Linux distributions. Linux patterns itself more after the SVR4 (System Five, Release 4) version of the Unix kernel from Bell Labs. Also remember that "Linux" refers to the kernel itself--not the entire O.S. The whole O.S. should be more properly referred to as Gnu-Linux (since most of the system utilities come from the Gnu project). FreeBSD and NetBSD are derivatives of BSD (Berkeley Standard Distribution) Unix, which is based on the System-7 release of Unix from Bell Labs. It's fine, but it doesn't work like the Linux kernel. For example, there are very few run-time kernel tuning features, and the kernel is monolithic (doesn't have "pluggable" drivers--you have to build drivers into the kernel). And let's not forget the old adage from "The Unix Hater's Handbook": "There are two things to come out of Berkeley: LSD and BSD. We don't think this is a coincidence!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When in doubt, mumble. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 17:24:21 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:24:21 -0500 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050411172421.GB21710@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:57:06AM -0700, Parek Andrada wrote: > First off be gentle, noob here. > > I'm trying to evaluate various freeware linux distros to implement as > desktop and server. Seems that there's a myriad of distros to choose > from and I want to know some people that have gone thru my path. > 1. Mandrake seems to be consumer-oriented. Official requires you to > pay yearly membership for updates although you can get updates without > being a member (no fee) if you urpmi from mirrors other than Mandrake. > 2. A lot of red hat-based distros like wbel (very active mailing > lists, but just maintained by 1 person), centos (updates regularly as > community based), lineox (did not test), Scientific Linux, etc. I've been very happy with KRUD (Kevin's RedHat Uber Distribution) https://secure.tummy.com/Order/krud.html It is a superset of (now) Fedora Core with all the current updates and bugfixes applied. You can get a monthly subscription for $110/year or get the current issue for $12. I have two of my clients on subscriptions, and I update my own five machines from my own subscription. They lag two or three months behind a new FC version just to let the dust settle and make sure things are stable. > 3. Suse based, novell (requires fees for updates after 1 free year), > yoper (synaptic upgrades) > > Also tried debian, ubuntu, slackware and freebsd and the more I test > the more I get confused on what to use as some has > strengths/weaknesses. Now, I just want some honest opinions not biased > on some distro although I am biased on fc3 as I am sending to this > lists! Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best things in life aren't things. From jkinz at kinz.org Mon Apr 11 19:01:28 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:01:28 -0400 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: ; from parek8@gmail.com on Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:57:06AM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20050411150128.A23320@redline.comcast.net> On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:57:06AM -0700, Parek Andrada wrote: > First off be gentle, noob here. > > I'm trying to evaluate various freeware linux distros to implement as > desktop and server. Seems that there's a myriad of distros to choose > from and I want to know some people that have gone thru my path. ......... SNIP > > strengths/weaknesses. Now, I just want some honest opinions not biased > on some distro although I am biased on fc3 as I am sending to this > lists! Here's a non-answer designed to frustrate you even more: http://distrowatch.com/ Top ten page: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major -- http://kinz.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From parek8 at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 19:12:29 2005 From: parek8 at gmail.com (Parek Andrada) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:12:29 -0700 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: <20050411172421.GB21710@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050411172421.GB21710@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: On Apr 11, 2005 10:24 AM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:57:06AM -0700, Parek Andrada wrote: > > First off be gentle, noob here. > > > > I'm trying to evaluate various freeware linux distros to implement as > > desktop and server. Seems that there's a myriad of distros to choose > > from and I want to know some people that have gone thru my path. > > 1. Mandrake seems to be consumer-oriented. Official requires you to > > pay yearly membership for updates although you can get updates without > > being a member (no fee) if you urpmi from mirrors other than Mandrake. > > 2. A lot of red hat-based distros like wbel (very active mailing > > lists, but just maintained by 1 person), centos (updates regularly as > > community based), lineox (did not test), Scientific Linux, etc. > > I've been very happy with KRUD (Kevin's RedHat Uber Distribution) > > https://secure.tummy.com/Order/krud.html > > It is a superset of (now) Fedora Core with all the current updates > and bugfixes applied. You can get a monthly subscription for > $110/year or get the current issue for $12. I have two of my clients > on subscriptions, and I update my own five machines from my own > subscription. They lag two or three months behind a new FC version > just to let the dust settle and make sure things are stable. > > > 3. Suse based, novell (requires fees for updates after 1 free year), > > yoper (synaptic upgrades) > > > > Also tried debian, ubuntu, slackware and freebsd and the more I test > > the more I get confused on what to use as some has > > strengths/weaknesses. Now, I just want some honest opinions not biased > > on some distro although I am biased on fc3 as I am sending to this > > lists! > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > The best things in life aren't things. > Hi Bob! Based on my readings on this list. It's nice to have you and Rick in this list. You two help out a lot in this list. Thanks! /Parek From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Apr 11 19:23:00 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:23:00 -0500 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: References: <20050411172421.GB21710@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050411192300.GB25531@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:12:29PM -0700, Parek Andrada wrote: > On Apr 11, 2005 10:24 AM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > > > Hi Bob! > Based on my readings on this list. It's nice to have you and Rick in > this list. You two help out a lot in this list. Thanks! > /Parek You're welcome. We does what we can. Fortunately for the list, Rick has more knowledge and time than I. Jeff Kinz also warrants high regard. And there are others too numerous to mention. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best things in life aren't things. From jkinz at kinz.org Mon Apr 11 20:05:33 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:05:33 -0400 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: <20050411192300.GB25531@bobcat.bobcatos.com>; from robertmcclure@earthlink.net on Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 02:23:00PM -0500 References: <20050411172421.GB21710@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050411192300.GB25531@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050411160533.B23320@redline.comcast.net> On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 02:23:00PM -0500, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:12:29PM -0700, Parek Andrada wrote: > > Hi Bob! > > Based on my readings on this list. It's nice to have you and Rick in > > this list. You two help out a lot in this list. Thanks! > > /Parek > > You're welcome. We does what we can. Fortunately for the list, Rick > has more knowledge and time than I. Jeff Kinz also warrants high > regard. And there are others too numerous to mention. > I am only an egg. or a grape? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 11 20:18:56 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:18:56 -0700 Subject: fc3 evaluation In-Reply-To: <20050411160533.B23320@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050411172421.GB21710@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050411192300.GB25531@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050411160533.B23320@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <425ADBB0.9060203@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 02:23:00PM -0500, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >>On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:12:29PM -0700, Parek Andrada wrote: >> >>>Hi Bob! >>>Based on my readings on this list. It's nice to have you and Rick in >>>this list. You two help out a lot in this list. Thanks! >>>/Parek >> >>You're welcome. We does what we can. Fortunately for the list, Rick >>has more knowledge and time than I. Jeff Kinz also warrants high >>regard. And there are others too numerous to mention. Here, here! re: Jeff (and you too, Bob). Dunno about me. > I am only an egg. > > or a grape? "I'm just a bill. Yes, just only a bill. And I'm stuck here on Capitol Hill." (how's that shake up your old "School House Rock" genes?) :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl Mon Apr 11 22:12:22 2005 From: cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl (Maria Cristina del Solar) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:12:22 -0400 (CLT) Subject: LANG Message-ID: HI I need to change the variable LANG, actually: [root at dwapp root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n LANG="en_US.UTF-8" SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en" SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" I need the language spanish is supported, because I have an application that it does not show some characters. I have installed RH AS 3.0 Best Regards Thanks in advanced From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 11 23:24:28 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:24:28 -0700 Subject: LANG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <425B072C.2090202@vitalstream.com> Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > HI > > I need to change the variable LANG, actually: > > [root at dwapp root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n > LANG="en_US.UTF-8" > SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en" > SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" > > I need the language spanish is supported, because I have an application > that it does not show some characters. > > I have installed RH AS 3.0 Try running "redhat-config-language" as the root user. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Mon Apr 11 23:52:27 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:52:27 -0600 Subject: Sound Card Message-ID: <1113263547.19462.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) After an install I am finding the sound card does not seem to work properly and I am not sure where to start troubleshooting the problem as i am too new to Linux. I have run {System Settings} {Sound card detection} from Gnome and it reports "No sound card detected" This is a new Gateway computer P4. So any help in troubleshooting is greatly appriciated From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 00:04:54 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:04:54 -0700 Subject: Sound Card In-Reply-To: <1113263547.19462.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113263547.19462.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05041117047849814e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Scott, The standard for Linux sound these days is Alsa. I'm not exactly sure what Gnome is attempting to do for you but it's probably not going to get the job done. Let's jsut go back to basics and get it handled. Probably the most simple way to approach the problem is to let Alsa set it up for you. Try running alsaconf and see if it finds the card. If it does it will liekly set up modprobe.conf and you'll be almost ready to go. At that point you can try /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start and see what happens. If it doesn't find the card then run lspci and let us know what the card is. Cheers, Mark On Apr 11, 2005 4:52 PM, Scott Mertens wrote: > Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > After an install I am finding the sound card does not seem to work > properly and I am not sure where to start troubleshooting the problem as > i am too new to Linux. > > I have run {System Settings} {Sound card detection} from Gnome and it > reports "No sound card detected" > > This is a new Gateway computer P4. So any help in troubleshooting is > greatly appriciated > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 00:30:37 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:30:37 -0600 Subject: Static IP Message-ID: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys router connected to ISP. How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info provided by ISP/Linksys router? From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 02:04:48 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:04:48 -0600 Subject: Sound card Message-ID: <1113271488.23894.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> >Hi Scott, > The standard for Linux sound these days is Alsa. I'm not exactly >sure what Gnome is attempting to do for you but it's probably not >going to get the job done. Let's jsut go back to basics and get it >handled. > Probably the most simple way to approach the problem is to let Alsa >set it up for you. Try running alsaconf and see if it finds the card. >If it does it will liekly set up modprobe.conf and you'll be almost >ready to go. At that point you can try /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound >start and see what happens. I can find no man pages for this command (alsaconf) and can't figure out how to run. Can you be more specific for me? > If it doesn't find the card then run lspci and let us know what the card is. >Cheers, >Mark From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 02:12:40 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:12:40 -0700 Subject: Sound card In-Reply-To: <1113271488.23894.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113271488.23894.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0504111912654879c9@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Scott Mertens Date: Apr 11, 2005 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Sound card To: Red Hat Install >Hi Scott, > The standard for Linux sound these days is Alsa. I'm not exactly >sure what Gnome is attempting to do for you but it's probably not >going to get the job done. Let's jsut go back to basics and get it >handled. > Probably the most simple way to approach the problem is to let Alsa >set it up for you. Try running alsaconf and see if it finds the card. >If it does it will liekly set up modprobe.conf and you'll be almost >ready to go. At that point you can try /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound >start and see what happens. I can find no man pages for this command (alsaconf) and can't figure out how to run. Can you be more specific for me? Assuming that Alsa is part of this distro then, as root, alsaconf -Mark From micros50 at computer.net Tue Apr 12 05:42:33 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:42:33 -0400 Subject: Sound Card In-Reply-To: <1113263547.19462.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113263547.19462.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1113284544.9416.81.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 19:52, Scott Mertens wrote: > Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > After an install I am finding the sound card does not seem to work > properly and I am not sure where to start troubleshooting the problem as > i am too new to Linux. > > I have run {System Settings} {Sound card detection} from Gnome and it > reports "No sound card detected" > > This is a new Gateway computer P4. So any help in troubleshooting is > greatly appriciated Do you know what type of sound card is installed in the system ?? Try visiting "www.alsa-project.org" and see if your sound-card is listed there. If it is you may need to download the latest set of drivers for that sound card. Once downloaded you may need to compile them to be installed as modules or compile them directly into the kernel. The former method is probably easier. While you're at it you might as well download compile and install the most recent alsa-libs and utils (which provided alsaconf, alsamixer asnd other useful utilities. Also, when you compile your drivers you need to specify which modules (for your soundcard) you want built. This is usually done specifying the "with-cards=xxx" (where xxx = driver name) during configuration. Complete instructions are at alsa-project.org and further questions can be directed to this list. mylar From vincent at kenic.or.ke Tue Apr 12 08:42:14 2005 From: vincent at kenic.or.ke (Vincent Ngundi) Date: 12 Apr 2005 11:42:14 +0300 Subject: Gnome Installation Problem Message-ID: <1113295333.1118.64.camel@vince> Hi All, I installed RedHat 9 on a server but without X Windows and neither Gnome nor KDE. Now I need to run an application that requires Gnome from another host. When I try running 'redhat-config-packages', I get the following error: ##################beginning of error################################### Unable to import gtk module. This may be due to running without $DISPLAY set. Exception was: could not open display Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/redhat-config-packages/MainWindow.py", line 11, in ? sys.exit(0) NameError: name 'sys' is not defined ################## end of error################################### Could anyone please let me know how to install Gnome given the above scenario? Thnx in advance. Vincent. -- ===== "It's not the bullet with my name on it that worries me. It's the one that says 'To whom it may concern'." From tariq.samsudeen at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 10:31:05 2005 From: tariq.samsudeen at gmail.com (tariq samsudeen) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:31:05 +0100 Subject: multiple linux Message-ID: <75db1b3b05041203311486c72b@mail.gmail.com> hi all, is it possible to hv a multiple copy of redhat linux on the same machine.......i installed 2 copies of linux, but my grub loader config is pointing only to the latest installation.....pliz help thanks & regards, tariq From ciril at hclinsys.com Tue Apr 12 10:58:11 2005 From: ciril at hclinsys.com (CIRIL IGNATIOUS T) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:28:11 +0530 Subject: SATA support Message-ID: <425BA9C3.5000905@hclinsys.com> Hi all Whether SATA hdd is fully supported on Redhat Linux with 2.4 kernel. Regards Ciril From ptrowe at buyersedge.cc Tue Apr 12 12:20:14 2005 From: ptrowe at buyersedge.cc (Patrick Rowe) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:20:14 -0400 Subject: Remote logins Message-ID: <003c01c53f59$fb363480$9f01a8c0@sdgserver.sgd.com> I am new to Linux and have this question. I have set up OpenSSH and can open a SSH session locally using puTTY from a Windows system. However, I get timed out when trying to attach from a remote location. Can anyone send the settings to use on a Cisco Router for a remote connection? Thanks. Pat Rowe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Tue Apr 12 13:18:50 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:18:50 +0100 Subject: multiple linux In-Reply-To: <75db1b3b05041203311486c72b@mail.gmail.com> References: <75db1b3b05041203311486c72b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1113311929.2117.3.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 11:31, tariq samsudeen wrote: > hi all, > is it possible to hv a multiple copy of redhat linux on the same > machine.......i installed 2 copies of linux, but my grub loader config > is pointing only to the latest installation.....pliz help > thanks & regards, > tariq Yes, I do this a lot. From your running (latest) installation, mount the disc partition that is /boot in the original installation. Copy the /boot/grub/grub.conf (when mounted it will be just >Assuming that Alsa is part of this distro then, as root, >alsaconf [root at RHServer01 ~]# alsaconf -bash: alsaconf: command not found Must not be part of the distro. From cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl Tue Apr 12 14:01:19 2005 From: cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl (Maria Cristina del Solar) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:01:19 -0400 (CLT) Subject: LANG In-Reply-To: <425B072C.2090202@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > > HI > > > > I need to change the variable LANG, actually: > > > > [root at dwapp root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n > > LANG="en_US.UTF-8" > > SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en" > > SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" > > > > I need the language spanish is supported, because I have an application > > that it does not show some characters. > > > > I have installed RH AS 3.0 > > Try running "redhat-config-language" as the root user. I was executed "redhat-config-language", but only I have: English (USA) I believe that I must execute "redhat-config-kickstart" and select Spanish, but then I save the changes and reboot the machine, and then run "redhat-config-language" and select Spanish. I'm in the correct thing? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 14:14:07 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:14:07 -0700 Subject: Sound card In-Reply-To: <1113312985.3678.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113312985.3678.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05041207141c5631a9@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 12, 2005 6:36 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > >Assuming that Alsa is part of this distro then, as root, > > >alsaconf > > [root at RHServer01 ~]# alsaconf > -bash: alsaconf: command not found > > Must not be part of the distro. Humm....this is pretty typical of my machines. (All FC2-based with PlanetCCRMA additiions.) [mark at dragonfly mark]$ rpm -qa | grep alsa alsa-tools-1.0.9-0.1.rc1.rhfc2.ccrma balsa-2.0.17-1 kernel-module-alsa-2.6.11-0.3.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma-1.0.9-0.1.rc1.rhfc2.ccrma alsa-firmware-1.0.8-1.rhfc2.ccrma alsa-utils-1.0.9-0.1.rc1.rhfc2.ccrma alsa-lib-devel-1.0.9-0.1.rc1.rhfc2.ccrma alsa-driver-1.0.9-0.1.rc1.rhfc2.ccrma alsa-lib-1.0.9-0.1.rc1.rhfc2.ccrma alsaplayer-0.99.76-1.rhfc2.ccrma alsa-oss-1.0.9-0.1.rc1.rhfc2.ccrma [mark at dragonfly mark]$ [mark at dragonfly mark]$ slocate alsa | grep bin /usr/sbin/alsaconf /usr/sbin/alsactl /usr/bin/balsa-ab /usr/bin/balsa /usr/bin/alsamixer /usr/bin/alsalisp /usr/bin/alsaplayer /usr/share/alsa/firmware/hdsploader/multiface_firmware_rev11.bin /usr/share/alsa/firmware/hdsploader/digiface_firmware.bin /usr/share/alsa/firmware/hdsploader/multiface_firmware.bin /usr/share/alsa/firmware/hdsploader/digiface_firmware_rev11.bin [mark at dragonfly mark]$ First, do the rpm -qa command above and see what's realyl on your system. It may be that you're missing only alsatools. Give yum a try and see what it says is available. yum search alsa should return info on what's available from your repository. You can then add Alsa (1 or many parts) using yum install package-name Good luck, Mark From akelly at transparency.org Tue Apr 12 14:14:56 2005 From: akelly at transparency.org (Andrew Kelly) Date: 12 Apr 2005 16:14:56 +0200 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video Message-ID: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> Hi all, anybody out there have any experience with serving streaming video? Help? Pointers? Links to good reading? Andy From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 14:43:15 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:43:15 -0600 Subject: Sound card Message-ID: <1113316995.3678.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> > do an > > #rpm -qa |grep alsa > > you should see the following packages > > > alsa-lib-1.0.6-4 > alsa-lib-devel-1.0.6-4 > alsa-utils-1.0.6-3 > > if not, you need to install them the install cd's or iso images > > JD Here are my results [root at RHServer01 ~]# rpm -qa |grep alsa alsa-utils-1.0.6-3 alsa-lib-1.0.6-5.RHEL4 [root at RHServer01 ~]# From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 14:53:44 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:53:44 -0700 Subject: Sound card In-Reply-To: <1113316995.3678.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113316995.3678.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05041207531304f3e5@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 12, 2005 7:43 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > > do an > > > > #rpm -qa |grep alsa > > > > you should see the following packages > > > > > > alsa-lib-1.0.6-4 > > alsa-lib-devel-1.0.6-4 > > alsa-utils-1.0.6-3 > > > > if not, you need to install them the install cd's or iso images > > > > JD > > Here are my results > [root at RHServer01 ~]# rpm -qa |grep alsa > alsa-utils-1.0.6-3 > alsa-lib-1.0.6-5.RHEL4 > [root at RHServer01 ~]# OK, a couple more things: 1) What kernel are you running? 2.6 kernels have alsa built inside them. (Generally) 2) Is any part of Alsa loaded? lsmod | grep snd ls /proc/asound cat /proc/asound/version 3) What results do you see if you try yum search alsa-tools 4) What is in your modprobe.conf file? cat /etc/modprobe.conf Keep going! - Mark From micros50 at computer.net Tue Apr 12 15:21:58 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:21:58 -0400 Subject: SATA support In-Reply-To: <425BA9C3.5000905@hclinsys.com> References: <425BA9C3.5000905@hclinsys.com> Message-ID: <1113319318.15738.6.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 06:58, CIRIL IGNATIOUS T wrote: > Hi all > > Whether SATA hdd is fully supported on Redhat Linux with 2.4 kernel. > > Regards > > Ciril Being that nobody has taken a stab at answering this question I'll try my best with somewhat limited experience. I managed to get Fedora Core 1 (running 2,4) kernel to recognize a SATA drive on one system but, I had to change some settings in the BIOS in order to make it happen. I am now running FC3 (kernel 2.6) under that same machine and the SATA drive appears to be fully supported and with normal BIOS settings. From my experiences I would recommend your distro with kernel >= 2.6 . Perhaps others on the list can shed more light on this topic. mylar > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 15:06:00 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:06:00 -0600 Subject: Sound card In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05041207531304f3e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200504121606.j3CG67Sp013233@mx3.redhat.com> -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:54 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Sound card On Apr 12, 2005 7:43 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > > do an > > > > #rpm -qa |grep alsa > > > > you should see the following packages > > > > > > alsa-lib-1.0.6-4 > > alsa-lib-devel-1.0.6-4 > > alsa-utils-1.0.6-3 > > > > if not, you need to install them the install cd's or iso images > > > > JD > > Here are my results > [root at RHServer01 ~]# rpm -qa |grep alsa > alsa-utils-1.0.6-3 > alsa-lib-1.0.6-5.RHEL4 > [root at RHServer01 ~]# >OK, a couple more things: >1) What kernel are you running? 2.6 kernels have alsa built inside them. (Generally) >2) Is any part of Alsa loaded? lsmod | grep snd >[root at RHServer01 ~]# lsmod |grep snd [root at RHServer01 ~]# >ls /proc/asound root at RHServer01 ~]# ls /proc/asound ls: /proc/asound: No such file or directory cat /proc/asound/version >3) What results do you see if you try yum search alsa-tools [root at RHServer01 ~]# yum search alsa-tools -bash: yum: command not found >4) What is in your modprobe.conf file? cat /etc/modprobe.conf [root at RHServer01 ~]# cat /proc/modprobe.conf cat: /proc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory Can I keep going? _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 16:25:23 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:25:23 -0700 Subject: Sound card In-Reply-To: <425be3e4.32b673fd.08ce.5e8aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05041207531304f3e5@mail.gmail.com> <425be3e4.32b673fd.08ce.5e8aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050412092551b42485@mail.gmail.com> On Apr 12, 2005 8:06 AM, Scott Mertens wrote: > >1) What kernel are you running? 2.6 kernels have alsa built inside them. > (Generally) > > >2) Is any part of Alsa loaded? lsmod | grep snd > > >[root at RHServer01 ~]# lsmod |grep snd > [root at RHServer01 ~]# > > >ls /proc/asound > root at RHServer01 ~]# ls /proc/asound > ls: /proc/asound: No such file or directory > cat /proc/asound/version > > >3) What results do you see if you try yum search alsa-tools > [root at RHServer01 ~]# yum search alsa-tools > -bash: yum: command not found > > > >4) What is in your modprobe.conf file? cat /etc/modprobe.conf > [root at RHServer01 ~]# cat /proc/modprobe.conf > cat: /proc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory > > Can I keep going? Scott, I guess not! All I can say is that when this machine was set up it was apparently loaded with very little. Maybe it's reasonable that since it's a server it doesn't have sound, but it seem unlikely that it shouldn't even have yum. Very strange. The only thing I can think of is that possibly this is caused by how you become root. Are you logged in as a user and then doing an su to root? If so, how are you doing it? su or su - The former doesn't pick up root's path and therefore wouldn't find things like yum. If you're doing the latter and getting these problems then you're going to need someone who knows about configuring your distro vs. someone like me who works with sound. - Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:00:45 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:00:45 -0700 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for > WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set > up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys > router connected to ISP. > > How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info > provided by ISP/Linksys router? First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you grabbed from the router. That should be it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If you can't beat your computer at chess...try kickboxing! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 17:08:31 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:08:31 -0600 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > > > I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for > > WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set > > up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys > > router connected to ISP. > > > > How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info > > provided by ISP/Linksys router? > > First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. > Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the > DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. > > Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" > from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You > will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the > router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one > you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the > router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you > grabbed from the router. That should be it. Thanks, I'll give that a try. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - If you can't beat your computer at chess...try kickboxing! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From roland at cat.be Tue Apr 12 12:36:09 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:36:09 +0200 Subject: Remote logins In-Reply-To: <003c01c53f59$fb363480$9f01a8c0@sdgserver.sgd.com> Message-ID: <002701c53f5c$347ee640$7a0101c0@pccat03> I am new to Linux and have this question. I have set up OpenSSH and can open a SSH session locally using puTTY from a Windows system. However, I get timed out when trying to attach from a remote location. Can anyone send the settings to use on a Cisco Router for a remote connection? Thanks. Pat Rowe Maybe you have to change the parameter 'keep alive' roland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:12:13 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:12:13 -0700 Subject: Gnome Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <1113295333.1118.64.camel@vince> References: <1113295333.1118.64.camel@vince> Message-ID: <425C016D.5030405@vitalstream.com> Vincent Ngundi wrote: > Hi All, > > I installed RedHat 9 on a server but without X Windows and neither Gnome > nor KDE. Now I need to run an application that requires Gnome from > another host. > > When I try running 'redhat-config-packages', I get the following error: > > ##################beginning of error################################### > > Unable to import gtk module. This may be due to running without > $DISPLAY set. Exception was: > could not open display > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/redhat-config-packages/MainWindow.py", line 11, in ? > sys.exit(0) > NameError: name 'sys' is not defined > > ################## end of error################################### > > Could anyone please let me know how to install Gnome given the above > scenario? > > Thnx in advance. To install Gnome, you must install X completely. Gnome is just one of many possible window managers (KDE is another) that run under X. Hmmmm. Lessee. I'm not surprised that redhat-config-packages requires X/Gnome/Gtk. It shouldn't...but under RH9 it probably does. To be honest, I'd really recommend you install yum on that machine first. Download and install yum from here: ftp://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/redhat/9/yum/yum-2.0.4.rh.fr.1386.rpm To install X, Gtk and Gnome, as the root user, run # yum -y install Gnome Oh, by the way, to keep your RH9 machine up to date, use # yum -y update And remember that Red Hat 9 has been dead for well over a year. Current support is only through the kind folk at the Fedora Legacy Project. I don't know how much longer they intend to support RH9. You should SERIOUSLY think about updating to Fedora Core 3. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I.R.S.: We've got what it takes to take what you've got! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:13:43 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:13:43 -0700 Subject: SATA support In-Reply-To: <425BA9C3.5000905@hclinsys.com> References: <425BA9C3.5000905@hclinsys.com> Message-ID: <425C01C7.1050409@vitalstream.com> CIRIL IGNATIOUS T wrote: > Hi all > > Whether SATA hdd is fully supported on Redhat Linux with 2.4 kernel. SATA support is spotty at best with a 2.4 kernel. SATA is much better supported on 2.6 kernels (e.g. Fedora Core 2 and 3). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do not taunt the sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:15:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:15:05 -0700 Subject: Remote logins In-Reply-To: <003c01c53f59$fb363480$9f01a8c0@sdgserver.sgd.com> References: <003c01c53f59$fb363480$9f01a8c0@sdgserver.sgd.com> Message-ID: <425C0219.1030009@vitalstream.com> Patrick Rowe wrote: > I am new to Linux and have this question. > I have set up OpenSSH and can open a SSH session locally using > puTTY from a Windows system. However, I get timed out when trying to > attach from a remote location. Can anyone send the settings to use on a > Cisco Router for a remote connection? ssh uses TCP port 22, so you must enable incoming TCP port 22 connections on your firewall. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do not taunt the sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:17:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:17:27 -0700 Subject: LANG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <425C02A7.4020209@vitalstream.com> Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: >> >>>HI >>> >>>I need to change the variable LANG, actually: >>> >>>[root at dwapp root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n >>>LANG="en_US.UTF-8" >>>SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en" >>>SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" >>> >>>I need the language spanish is supported, because I have an application >>>that it does not show some characters. >>> >>>I have installed RH AS 3.0 >> >>Try running "redhat-config-language" as the root user. > > > I was executed "redhat-config-language", but only I have: > > English (USA) > > I believe that I must execute "redhat-config-kickstart" and select > Spanish, but then I save the changes and reboot the machine, and then run > "redhat-config-language" and select Spanish. > > I'm in the correct thing? Sort of. It looks like only the English language set was installed on your machine and you to install the Spanish language system as well. Grab your CDs and run "redhat-config-packages". Select the Spanish language set from that and install it. THEN you can run "redhat-config-language" and select Spanish. > > > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:20:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:20:37 -0700 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video In-Reply-To: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> References: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> Message-ID: <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> Andrew Kelly wrote: > Hi all, > > anybody out there have any experience with serving streaming video? > Help? Pointers? Links to good reading? You'll have to be a bit more specific. There are at least four popular formats: QuickTime, Real, Windows Media and Macromedia FLASH. What are you trying to do. My company is one of the largest streaming companies on the Internet (http://www.vitalstream.com) and I have LOTS of experience in this arena, but I need to know what you are trying to accomplish. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:21:14 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:21:14 -0700 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Scott Mertens wrote: >> >>>New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) >>> >>>I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for >>>WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set >>>up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys >>>router connected to ISP. >>> >>>How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info >>>provided by ISP/Linksys router? >> >>First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. >>Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the >>DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. >> >>Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" >>from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You >>will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the >>router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one >>you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the >>router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you >>grabbed from the router. That should be it. > > > Thanks, I'll give that a try. Go for it, Scott. We'll be waiting for a status report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 17:37:01 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:37:01 -0600 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113327421.3678.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:21 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>Scott Mertens wrote: > >> > >>>New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > >>> > >>>I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for > >>>WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set > >>>up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys > >>>router connected to ISP. > >>> > >>>How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info > >>>provided by ISP/Linksys router? > >> > >>First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. > >>Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the > >>DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. > >> > >>Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" > >>from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You > >>will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the > >>router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one > >>you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the > >>router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you > >>grabbed from the router. That should be it. > > > > > > Thanks, I'll give that a try. > > Go for it, Scott. We'll be waiting for a status report. Is there just a file I can edit? My practice is to always make a backup of files before editing, and I'm not sure the GUI will do that. Also running the following as you suggest throws an error. [root at RHServer01 ~]# redhat-config-network -bash: redhat-config-network: command not found THX > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From micros50 at computer.net Tue Apr 12 17:37:10 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:37:10 -0400 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1113327430.15738.70.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 20:30, Scott Mertens wrote: > New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for > WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set > up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys > router connected to ISP. > > How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info > provided by ISP/Linksys router? > Depends on from where your XP users are connecting to your printer. If they are all on an internal LAN then it doesn't matter if your Internet IP is static or dynamic. If users are accessing printer services across the Internet then a static IP would be a good idea. Easiest way to find out whether you are static or dynamic is to check with your ISP. Dialup connections are traditionally dynamic new IP assigned every time a connection is established). Many broadband connections can be either dynamic or static. To be 100% certain I'd check with the service provider (and hope that they know)... mylar From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 17:45:13 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:45:13 -0600 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <1113327430.15738.70.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1113327430.15738.70.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: <1113327913.3678.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 13:37 -0400, mylar wrote: > On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 20:30, Scott Mertens wrote: > > New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > > > I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for > > WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set > > up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys > > router connected to ISP. > > > > How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info > > provided by ISP/Linksys router? > > > > Depends on from where your XP users are connecting to your printer. If > they are all on an internal LAN then it doesn't matter if your Internet > IP is static or dynamic. If users are accessing printer services across > the Internet then a static IP would be a good idea. > > Easiest way to find out whether you are static or dynamic is to check > with your ISP. Dialup connections are traditionally dynamic new IP > assigned every time a connection is established). Many broadband > connections can be either dynamic or static. To be 100% certain I'd > check with the service provider (and hope that they know)... > > mylar You may have misread my question, or I did not explain correctly. Currently I am just looking for a file to edit to make my Linux box static. My XP users and the Linux box are behind a Natted LINKSYS router. All boxes IP's are DHCP. WAN side of Linksys is on a 10. subnet LAN side is 192.168.1. I'm having probles setting up Samba to host a printer on the Linux box so thought I's try to make IP static. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 17:55:18 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:55:18 -0700 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <1113327421.3678.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> <1113327421.3678.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425C0B86.2000300@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:21 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Scott Mertens wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Scott Mertens wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) >>>>> >>>>>I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for >>>>>WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set >>>>>up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys >>>>>router connected to ISP. >>>>> >>>>>How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info >>>>>provided by ISP/Linksys router? >>>> >>>>First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. >>>>Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the >>>>DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. >>>> >>>>Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" >>> >>>>from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You >>> >>>>will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the >>>>router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one >>>>you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the >>>>router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you >>>>grabbed from the router. That should be it. >>> >>> >>>Thanks, I'll give that a try. >> >>Go for it, Scott. We'll be waiting for a status report. > > > Is there just a file I can edit? My practice is to always make a backup > of files before editing, and I'm not sure the GUI will do that. Also > running the following as you suggest throws an error. > > [root at RHServer01 ~]# redhat-config-network > -bash: redhat-config-network: command not found That's odd. Hmmm. Try "system-config-network". One or the other should be in /usr/bin. Anyway, yes, you can edit files if you wish. You're interested in these two files: /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 /etc/sysconfig/network contains three lines generally. Here's a typical file: NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=hostname.domainname.tld GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx The values in there should be pretty obvious. Put your desired hostname as the value of the "HOSTNAME=" line, and the IP address of your gateway in the "GATEWAY=" line (as I said, your gateway is probably 192.168.0.1, but use whatever the router's LAN port's address is). The second file, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, sets up the specifics for your NIC. The only data that is REQUIRED in that file are the following: DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx NETMASK=yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy ONBOOT=yes Make sure you set the "DEVICE=" to the proper device. If you only have one NIC, then "eth0" is the right value (it should match the name of the file). "BOOTPROTO=static" is what makes the device use a static IP rather than one from DHCP (which is triggered by "BOOTPROTO=dhcp"). Obviously, you put your desired IP address in the "IPADDR=" line and your netmask in "NETMASK=". The final line, "ONBOOT=yes" tells the system to bring up this interface at boot time. Once you've got all that set up, do "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart" and the system should switch over to your new network settings. Hope that helps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 18:08:17 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:08:17 -0600 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <425C0B86.2000300@vitalstream.com> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> <1113327421.3678.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C0B86.2000300@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113329297.3553.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:55 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:21 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>Scott Mertens wrote: > >> > >>>On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Scott Mertens wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > >>>>> > >>>>>I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for > >>>>>WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set > >>>>>up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys > >>>>>router connected to ISP. > >>>>> > >>>>>How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info > >>>>>provided by ISP/Linksys router? > >>>> > >>>>First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. > >>>>Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the > >>>>DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. > >>>> > >>>>Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" > >>> > >>>>from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You > >>> > >>>>will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the > >>>>router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one > >>>>you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the > >>>>router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you > >>>>grabbed from the router. That should be it. > >>> > >>> > >>>Thanks, I'll give that a try. > >> > >>Go for it, Scott. We'll be waiting for a status report. > > > > > > Is there just a file I can edit? My practice is to always make a backup > > of files before editing, and I'm not sure the GUI will do that. Also > > running the following as you suggest throws an error. > > > > [root at RHServer01 ~]# redhat-config-network > > -bash: redhat-config-network: command not found > > That's odd. Hmmm. Try "system-config-network". One or the other > should be in /usr/bin. > > Anyway, yes, you can edit files if you wish. You're interested in > these two files: > > /etc/sysconfig/network > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 > > /etc/sysconfig/network contains three lines generally. Here's a typical > file: > > NETWORKING=yes > HOSTNAME=hostname.domainname.tld > GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > > The values in there should be pretty obvious. Put your desired hostname > as the value of the "HOSTNAME=" line, and the IP address of your gateway > in the "GATEWAY=" line (as I said, your gateway is probably > 192.168.0.1, but use whatever the router's LAN port's address is). > > The second file, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, sets up the > specifics for your NIC. The only data that is REQUIRED in that file > are the following: > > DEVICE=eth0 > BOOTPROTO=static > IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > NETMASK=yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > ONBOOT=yes > > Make sure you set the "DEVICE=" to the proper device. If you only have > one NIC, then "eth0" is the right value (it should match the name of the > file). > > "BOOTPROTO=static" is what makes the device use a static IP rather than > one from DHCP (which is triggered by "BOOTPROTO=dhcp"). Obviously, you > put your desired IP address in the "IPADDR=" line and your netmask in > "NETMASK=". > > The final line, "ONBOOT=yes" tells the system to bring up this interface > at boot time. > > Once you've got all that set up, do "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart" > and the system should switch over to your new network settings. Thanks system-config-network did work. And if this message goes through, the setup and file edits worked as well. Great board for us beginners. Appreciate all the help!! > > Hope that helps. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 18:35:53 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:35:53 -0700 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <1113329297.3553.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> <1113327421.3678.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C0B86.2000300@vitalstream.com> <1113329297.3553.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425C1509.60103@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:55 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Scott Mertens wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:21 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Scott Mertens wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Scott Mertens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for >>>>>>>WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set >>>>>>>up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys >>>>>>>router connected to ISP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info >>>>>>>provided by ISP/Linksys router? >>>>>> >>>>>>First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. >>>>>>Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the >>>>>>DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. >>>>>> >>>>>>Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" >>>>> >>>>>>from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the >>>>>>router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one >>>>>>you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the >>>>>>router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you >>>>>>grabbed from the router. That should be it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Thanks, I'll give that a try. >>>> >>>>Go for it, Scott. We'll be waiting for a status report. >>> >>> >>>Is there just a file I can edit? My practice is to always make a backup >>>of files before editing, and I'm not sure the GUI will do that. Also >>>running the following as you suggest throws an error. >>> >>>[root at RHServer01 ~]# redhat-config-network >>>-bash: redhat-config-network: command not found >> >>That's odd. Hmmm. Try "system-config-network". One or the other >>should be in /usr/bin. >> >>Anyway, yes, you can edit files if you wish. You're interested in >>these two files: >> >> /etc/sysconfig/network >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 >> >>/etc/sysconfig/network contains three lines generally. Here's a typical >>file: >> >> NETWORKING=yes >> HOSTNAME=hostname.domainname.tld >> GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >> >>The values in there should be pretty obvious. Put your desired hostname >>as the value of the "HOSTNAME=" line, and the IP address of your gateway >>in the "GATEWAY=" line (as I said, your gateway is probably >>192.168.0.1, but use whatever the router's LAN port's address is). >> >>The second file, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, sets up the >>specifics for your NIC. The only data that is REQUIRED in that file >>are the following: >> >> DEVICE=eth0 >> BOOTPROTO=static >> IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >> NETMASK=yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy >> ONBOOT=yes >> >>Make sure you set the "DEVICE=" to the proper device. If you only have >>one NIC, then "eth0" is the right value (it should match the name of the >>file). >> >>"BOOTPROTO=static" is what makes the device use a static IP rather than >>one from DHCP (which is triggered by "BOOTPROTO=dhcp"). Obviously, you >>put your desired IP address in the "IPADDR=" line and your netmask in >>"NETMASK=". >> >>The final line, "ONBOOT=yes" tells the system to bring up this interface >>at boot time. >> >>Once you've got all that set up, do "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart" >>and the system should switch over to your new network settings. > > > Thanks system-config-network did work. And if this message goes > through, the setup and file edits worked as well. We see the message, so apparently they did. Regarding the name of the script, Ah, HAH! Sneaky of them! HISTORY: Red Hat Linux (RHL) 8.0 and 9 had those scripts named "redhat-config-whatever". Fedora Core 1 also used that nomenclature (since it was going to be Red Hat Linux 10, before Red Hat decided to go fully commercial). Fedora Core 2 started using "system-config-whatever" to differentiate it from RHL or RHEL. I know that RHEL4 is based on Fedora Core 2, but since Fedora isn't an "official" Red Hat product, I had (wrongly) assumed they had reverted to calling them "redhat-config-whatever" to pull them back into the Red Hat product range. That's what I get for making assumptions. Now I know better and I thank you for the education. (I am now kicking myself--quite a feat for an old geezer like me) > Great board for us beginners. Appreciate all the help!! "That's what we're here for!" (c)2005, Red Hat Install List :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Tue Apr 12 19:11:53 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:11:53 -0600 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <425C1509.60103@vitalstream.com> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> <1113327421.3678.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C0B86.2000300@vitalstream.com> <1113329297.3553.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C1509.60103@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113333114.3553.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 11:35 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:55 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>Scott Mertens wrote: > >> > >>>On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:21 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Scott Mertens wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 10:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Scott Mertens wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>New Linux User: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I am in the process of setting up Printer sharing on this Linux box for > >>>>>>>WIN XP users. I think some of my problems might be resolved if I can set > >>>>>>>up a static IP for this box. Currently it gets one from a Linksys > >>>>>>>router connected to ISP. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>How can I tell Linux to use a static IP, but use DNS and other info > >>>>>>>provided by ISP/Linksys router? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>First off, get into the router and write down the DNS info it uses. > >>>>>>Also check the router's "DHCP Pool" (those are the addresses that the > >>>>>>DHCP server will give out) and the router's IP address and netmask. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Run "redhat-config-network" (or "RedHatIcon->System Settings->Network" > >>>>> > >>>>>>from the Gnome GUI) and configure the NIC for a fixed IP address. You > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>will want to select a fixed IP that is NOT in the DHCP pool for the > >>>>>>router. Your netmask will probably be 255.255.255.0, but use the one > >>>>>>you saw that the router was using. Your default gateway will be the > >>>>>>router (usually 192.168.0.1) and you'll put in the DNS servers you > >>>>>>grabbed from the router. That should be it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks, I'll give that a try. > >>>> > >>>>Go for it, Scott. We'll be waiting for a status report. > >>> > >>> > >>>Is there just a file I can edit? My practice is to always make a backup > >>>of files before editing, and I'm not sure the GUI will do that. Also > >>>running the following as you suggest throws an error. > >>> > >>>[root at RHServer01 ~]# redhat-config-network > >>>-bash: redhat-config-network: command not found > >> > >>That's odd. Hmmm. Try "system-config-network". One or the other > >>should be in /usr/bin. > >> > >>Anyway, yes, you can edit files if you wish. You're interested in > >>these two files: > >> > >> /etc/sysconfig/network > >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 > >> > >>/etc/sysconfig/network contains three lines generally. Here's a typical > >>file: > >> > >> NETWORKING=yes > >> HOSTNAME=hostname.domainname.tld > >> GATEWAY=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > >> > >>The values in there should be pretty obvious. Put your desired hostname > >>as the value of the "HOSTNAME=" line, and the IP address of your gateway > >>in the "GATEWAY=" line (as I said, your gateway is probably > >>192.168.0.1, but use whatever the router's LAN port's address is). > >> > >>The second file, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, sets up the > >>specifics for your NIC. The only data that is REQUIRED in that file > >>are the following: > >> > >> DEVICE=eth0 > >> BOOTPROTO=static > >> IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > >> NETMASK=yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy > >> ONBOOT=yes > >> > >>Make sure you set the "DEVICE=" to the proper device. If you only have > >>one NIC, then "eth0" is the right value (it should match the name of the > >>file). > >> > >>"BOOTPROTO=static" is what makes the device use a static IP rather than > >>one from DHCP (which is triggered by "BOOTPROTO=dhcp"). Obviously, you > >>put your desired IP address in the "IPADDR=" line and your netmask in > >>"NETMASK=". > >> > >>The final line, "ONBOOT=yes" tells the system to bring up this interface > >>at boot time. > >> > >>Once you've got all that set up, do "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart" > >>and the system should switch over to your new network settings. > > > > > > Thanks system-config-network did work. And if this message goes > > through, the setup and file edits worked as well. > > We see the message, so apparently they did. > > Regarding the name of the script, Ah, HAH! Sneaky of them! > > HISTORY: Red Hat Linux (RHL) 8.0 and 9 had those scripts named > "redhat-config-whatever". Fedora Core 1 also used that nomenclature > (since it was going to be Red Hat Linux 10, before Red Hat decided to > go fully commercial). > > Fedora Core 2 started using "system-config-whatever" to differentiate > it from RHL or RHEL. I know that RHEL4 is based on Fedora Core 2, but > since Fedora isn't an "official" Red Hat product, I had (wrongly) > assumed they had reverted to calling them "redhat-config-whatever" to > pull them back into the Red Hat product range. That's what I get for > making assumptions. Now I know better and I thank you for the education. > > (I am now kicking myself--quite a feat for an old geezer like me) I wasn't aware Redhat went commercial. I most likey got duped as I called Rh and told them I wanted to set up a file and Print server in RH, and was told I needed this RHEL4 or I couldn't set up a print server win Windows Clients. Then I found these boards. Looks like it happened back to front for me. So I purchased - I think as much as I hate using support, I'll get my monies worth. However most days you just don't have time to sit on hold and wait for a tech. Most days I have time to send email in questions, then MAYBE check during the day for replies, today is an exception. I did buy a book on RHES, and it came with 4 CD's for FC. Problem was 2 CD's were numbered Disc #1, and 2 CD's were numbereed Disc #4. I somehow didn't think that would work. Thanks again, I really like Linux as it makes me think, and when I'm brain dead others on these boards help me think. > > > Great board for us beginners. Appreciate all the help!! > > "That's what we're here for!" (c)2005, Red Hat Install List :-) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl Tue Apr 12 20:39:05 2005 From: cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl (Maria Cristina del Solar) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:39:05 -0400 (CLT) Subject: LANG In-Reply-To: <425C02A7.4020209@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: [...] > > I'm in the correct thing? > > Sort of. It looks like only the English language set was installed on > your machine and you to install the Spanish language system as well. > > Grab your CDs and run "redhat-config-packages". Select the Spanish > language set from that and install it. THEN you can run > "redhat-config-language" and select Spanish. > > It excuses my ignorance, but I don't find in "redhat-config-packages" the spanish language this only I found in "redhat-config-kickstart". You can say to me where I can find the spanish language in "redhat-config-packages". Thanks in advanced From wralphie at comcast.net Tue Apr 12 21:13:39 2005 From: wralphie at comcast.net (jludwig) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:13:39 -0400 Subject: multiple linux In-Reply-To: <1113311929.2117.3.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> References: <75db1b3b05041203311486c72b@mail.gmail.com> <1113311929.2117.3.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> Message-ID: <200504121713.39859.wralphie@comcast.net> On Tuesday 12 April 2005 09:18 am, Chris Hewitt wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 11:31, tariq samsudeen wrote: > > hi all, > > is it possible to hv a multiple copy of redhat linux on the same > > machine.......i installed 2 copies of linux, but my grub loader config > > is pointing only to the latest installation.....pliz help > > thanks & regards, > > tariq > > Yes, I do this a lot. From your running (latest) installation, mount the > disc partition that is /boot in the original installation. Copy the > /boot/grub/grub.conf (when mounted it will be just > the /boot/grub/grub.conf as a second entry to the latest installation. > > If the two installations are the same version of linux then the entries > will be the same except for the disc partitions that they point to. > > HTH > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe I second this, I fact you can run just about as many distros as you want and even cross some directories (S.A. your home directory). I used to run a second FD2 in case I messed the main installation while playing with setups (This allowed me to boot the second installation and fix the first.). -- John H Ludwig From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 22:02:42 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:02:42 -0700 Subject: Static IP In-Reply-To: <1113333114.3553.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113265837.22869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425BFEBD.1020100@vitalstream.com> <1113325711.3678.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C038A.1080706@vitalstream.com> <1113327421.3678.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C0B86.2000300@vitalstream.com> <1113329297.3553.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <425C1509.60103@vitalstream.com> <1113333114.3553.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425C4582.1030302@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: [snipped old content] >>Fedora Core 2 started using "system-config-whatever" to differentiate >>it from RHL or RHEL. I know that RHEL4 is based on Fedora Core 2, but >>since Fedora isn't an "official" Red Hat product, I had (wrongly) >>assumed they had reverted to calling them "redhat-config-whatever" to >>pull them back into the Red Hat product range. That's what I get for >>making assumptions. Now I know better and I thank you for the education. >> >>(I am now kicking myself--quite a feat for an old geezer like me) > > > I wasn't aware Redhat went commercial. I most likey got duped as I > called Rh and told them I wanted to set up a file and Print server in > RH, and was told I needed this RHEL4 or I couldn't set up a print server > win Windows Clients. Then I found these boards. Looks like it happened > back to front for me. > > So I purchased - I think as much as I hate using support, I'll get my > monies worth. However most days you just don't have time to sit on hold > and wait for a tech. Most days I have time to send email in questions, > then MAYBE check during the day for replies, today is an exception. Let me explain. Red Hat used to put their premier software up for free downloads. This was called "Red Hat Linux" (RHL) and is the stuff you're most familiar with (Red Hat Linux 5.2, 6, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 8.0, and 9). You got free updates for three months if you signed up for the Up-2-Date service. They had two "commercial" products, Red Hat Advanced Server (AS) and Red Hat Enhanced Server (ES) in two versions, 2 and 2.1. All four (ES2, ES2.1, AS2, AS2.1) were based on Red Hat Linux 7.2. The primary difference was that the Enhanced versions were limited to two processors and 16GB of RAM, the Advanced versions were unlimited (16 processors and 64GB of RAM). When the beta-test versions of RHL10 were being beaten on by those of us who were willing to test it, Red Hat decided that they really needed to go commercial. They pulled Red Hat Linux off the market (well, they stopped making it) and made everything "Red Hat Enterprise Linux". Fedora Core 1 became the basis for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, version 3. There are four major permutations of Red Hat Enterprise Linux: Advanced Server (AS, unlimited processors and 64GB RAM), Enhanced Server (RHES, two processors, 16GB RAM), Workstation (RHWS, two processors, unlimited memory) and Desktop (RHDT, 1 processor, 4GB RAM). You must pay for RHEL and are required to select one of their support programs. For many, many people, RHEL is a really good deal. Of course, if you know what you're doing, you can recompile, say, an ES kernel and make it an AS machine, but Red Hat won't support it as an AS machine. Fedora Core (FC) is the "farm team" for RHEL. Stuff you see in FC will eventually make it into RHEL. As you now know, ES4 (technically "Red Hat Enterprise Linux Enhanced Server Version 4") is based on Fedora Core 2. We are now doing beta testing on Fedora Core 4, test release 2. The next major release of RHEL (RHEL5) will probably be based on FC4 in a year or so. > I did buy a book on RHES, and it came with 4 CD's for FC. Problem was 2 > CD's were numbered Disc #1, and 2 CD's were numbereed Disc #4. I > somehow didn't think that would work. Well, it could be a labeling problem or they could have actually screwed up and put in the wrong CDs. You'd have to look at the contents of the disks to see if they did. > Thanks again, I really like Linux as it makes me think, and when I'm > brain dead others on these boards help me think. That's why we do what we do. Keep in mind that no one on these boards works for Red Hat (well, there's a couple that do), and NO ONE gets paid for what we do here. All we ask is that you share your knowledge and experiences. If someone else has a problem and you know how to fix it, don't wait for an invitation--just chime in with the answer. You might also want to join the "fedora-list" for more stuff fedora-ish. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The gene pool could use a little chlorine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 12 23:21:14 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:21:14 -0700 Subject: LANG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <425C57EA.10703@vitalstream.com> Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > [...] > >>>I'm in the correct thing? >> >>Sort of. It looks like only the English language set was installed on >>your machine and you to install the Spanish language system as well. >> >>Grab your CDs and run "redhat-config-packages". Select the Spanish >>language set from that and install it. THEN you can run >>"redhat-config-language" and select Spanish. >> > > It excuses my ignorance, but I don't find in "redhat-config-packages" the > spanish language this only I found in "redhat-config-kickstart". > > You can say to me where I can find the spanish language in > "redhat-config-packages". Judging from your email address, you want Spanish support for Chile, is that correct? If so, edit the /etc/sysconfig/i18n file and add ":es_CL.UTF8:es_CL" to the end of the "SUPPORTED=" line so it looks like: SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en:es_CL.UTF-8:es_CL:es" Then run "redhat-config-language" as the root user. You should now be able to select the Chilean dialect of Spanish. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 00:03:04 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:03:04 -0700 Subject: Random volume labels Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0504121703386233f8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm looking around for a simple command that will tell me any volume labels on a set of 1394 drive partitions. Any recommendations? thanks, Mark From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 00:57:51 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:57:51 -0700 Subject: Random volume labels In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0504121703386233f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0504121703386233f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050412175762607ddc@mail.gmail.com> On 4/12/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking around for a simple command that will tell me any > volume labels on a set of 1394 drive partitions. > > Any recommendations? > > thanks, > Mark > Hi, Sorry for answering my own post. I found tune2fs works for at least ext2/3 partitions. - Mark From cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl Wed Apr 13 16:01:35 2005 From: cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl (Maria Cristina del Solar) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:01:35 -0400 (CLT) Subject: LANG In-Reply-To: <425C57EA.10703@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >>>I'm in the correct thing? > >> > >>Sort of. It looks like only the English language set was installed on > >>your machine and you to install the Spanish language system as well. > >> > >>Grab your CDs and run "redhat-config-packages". Select the Spanish > >>language set from that and install it. THEN you can run > >>"redhat-config-language" and select Spanish. > >> > > > > It excuses my ignorance, but I don't find in "redhat-config-packages" the > > spanish language this only I found in "redhat-config-kickstart". > > > > You can say to me where I can find the spanish language in > > "redhat-config-packages". > > Judging from your email address, you want Spanish support for Chile, is > that correct? If so, edit the /etc/sysconfig/i18n file and add > ":es_CL.UTF8:es_CL" to the end of the "SUPPORTED=" line so it looks > like: > > SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en:es_CL.UTF-8:es_CL:es" > > Then run "redhat-config-language" as the root user. You should now be > able to select the Chilean dialect of Spanish. Exactly, I'm chilean and here needs spanish language for the application. Thank you very much by all your patience and it helps Regards From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 13 18:31:25 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:31:25 -0700 Subject: Random volume labels In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050412175762607ddc@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0504121703386233f8@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050412175762607ddc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <425D657D.9070002@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On 4/12/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>Hi, >> I'm looking around for a simple command that will tell me any >>volume labels on a set of 1394 drive partitions. >> >> Any recommendations? >> >>thanks, >>Mark >> > > > Hi, > Sorry for answering my own post. I found tune2fs works for at least > ext2/3 partitions. As will e2label. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When all else fails, try reading the instructions. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 18:34:36 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:34:36 -0700 Subject: Random volume labels In-Reply-To: <425D657D.9070002@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0504121703386233f8@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050412175762607ddc@mail.gmail.com> <425D657D.9070002@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05041311343ee6a98e@mail.gmail.com> On 4/13/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 4/12/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> I'm looking around for a simple command that will tell me any > >>volume labels on a set of 1394 drive partitions. > >> > >> Any recommendations? > >> > >>thanks, > >>Mark > >> > > > > > > Hi, > > Sorry for answering my own post. I found tune2fs works for at least > > ext2/3 partitions. > > As will e2label. Thanks RIck. I found that one later in the evening. Cheers, Mark From stuart at sjsears.com Wed Apr 13 22:10:59 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:10:59 +0100 Subject: Random volume labels In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05041311343ee6a98e@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0504121703386233f8@mail.gmail.com> <425D657D.9070002@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b05041311343ee6a98e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200504132310.59823.stuart@sjsears.com> On Wednesday 13 April 2005 19:34, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 4/13/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On 4/12/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >>Hi, > > >> I'm looking around for a simple command that will tell me any > > >>volume labels on a set of 1394 drive partitions. > > >> > > >> Any recommendations? > > >> > > >>thanks, > > >>Mark > > > > > > Hi, > > > Sorry for answering my own post. I found tune2fs works for at > > > least ext2/3 partitions. > > > > As will e2label. personally I use e2label as part of a short script, rather than running it on individual partitions... something like this (usually saved as /root/bin/listlabels.sh) #-----SCRIPT------# #/bin/bash for part in `fdisk -l | grep '^/dev' | cut -d' ' -f1`; do echo $part = `e2label $part 2>/dev/null` done #-----/SCRIPT------# [root at behemoth ~]# listlabels.sh /dev/hda1 = /boot /dev/hda2 = /dev/hda3 = /home1 /dev/hda4 = /dev/hda5 = /dev/hda6 = /dev/sdb1 = external Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought her back. From anjou_xia at yahoo.com.cn Thu Apr 14 00:04:50 2005 From: anjou_xia at yahoo.com.cn (anjou xia) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:04:50 +0800 (CST) Subject: how to install the redhat9.0 Message-ID: <20050414000450.96803.qmail@web15007.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> I have a redhat9 in my hard disk,and i have only a os:w2000 personal version on my computer.because of i have no floppy disk and cd-rom to boot. so i should how to install it.any recommand will be appricated. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 150??MP3???????????? ??????????????????? 1G??1000??????????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ninjazjb at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 15:23:38 2005 From: ninjazjb at gmail.com (Jason Brown) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:23:38 -0400 Subject: How to Kill a program In-Reply-To: References: <200504102159.03689.stuart@sjsears.com> Message-ID: xkill works the best that i have found. On 4/10/05, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > under KDE it's CTRL-ALT-ESC, click on the window you wish to kill. > > if you're running GNOME... > > have you tried ALT-F2, then type xkill, hit ENTER. > > you can click on the window you wish to close. > > Stuart > > -- > Thanks, I'll have to remember Alt-F2, works great. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Thu Apr 14 15:30:23 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:30:23 +0100 Subject: multiple linux In-Reply-To: <75db1b3b050414022324f444d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <75db1b3b05041203311486c72b@mail.gmail.com> <1113311929.2117.3.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> <75db1b3b050414022324f444d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1113492621.24592.1.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 10:23, tariq samsudeen wrote: > hi chris, > thank u very much.... > regards, > tariq > > > > On 4/12/05, Chris Hewitt wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 11:31, tariq samsudeen wrote: > > > hi all, > > > is it possible to hv a multiple copy of redhat linux on the same > > > machine.......i installed 2 copies of linux, but my grub loader config > > > is pointing only to the latest installation.....pliz help > > > thanks & regards, > > > tariq > > > > Yes, I do this a lot. From your running (latest) installation, mount the > > disc partition that is /boot in the original installation. Copy the > > /boot/grub/grub.conf (when mounted it will be just > > > the /boot/grub/grub.conf as a second entry to the latest installation. > > > > If the two installations are the same version of linux then the entries > > will be the same except for the disc partitions that they point to. > > > > HTH > > Chris Tariq, You are welcome. Please just ask (on the list not privately) if you need any more details. Regards Chris From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 14 18:14:15 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:14:15 -0600 Subject: Mirror Mirror Message-ID: <1113502455.17276.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> With these SATA drives as cheap as they are I am thinking about just purchasing another 200 GIG HD and setting up a mirror in Linux. My thinking is that if one drives fails, I can simply break the mirror, switch SATA hard drive cables - re-boot and away I go. I am using Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) Can anyone tel me if this is possible, or do I have my head way up my ??? Is this something Linux can do out of the box, or is there some add-on's I need to accomplish. Thanks From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 14 19:18:45 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:18:45 -0700 Subject: Mirror Mirror In-Reply-To: <1113502455.17276.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113502455.17276.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425EC215.1080006@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > With these SATA drives as cheap as they are I am thinking about just > purchasing another 200 GIG HD and setting up a mirror in Linux. > > > My thinking is that if one drives fails, I can simply break the mirror, > switch SATA hard drive cables - re-boot and away I go. > > I am using > Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > Can anyone tel me if this is possible, or do I have my head way up > my ??? Is this something Linux can do out of the box, or is there some > add-on's I need to accomplish. It is certainly doable by either hardware or software. You're talking about RAID-1 (disk mirroring). Most SATA controllers are capable of doing it, but usually need the help of the OS to accomplish it. Linux has software RAID (called "md" for "multiple devices"). grub has support for booting software RAID volumes. I'd recommend you go off and check out the Software RAID HOWTO at: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 14 19:45:46 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:45:46 -0600 Subject: Mirror Mirror In-Reply-To: <425EC215.1080006@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200504141943.j3EJhqtf008332@mx1.redhat.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > With these SATA drives as cheap as they are I am thinking about just > purchasing another 200 GIG HD and setting up a mirror in Linux. > > > My thinking is that if one drives fails, I can simply break the > mirror, switch SATA hard drive cables - re-boot and away I go. > > I am using > Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > > Can anyone tel me if this is possible, or do I have my head way up my > ??? Is this something Linux can do out of the box, or is there some > add-on's I need to accomplish. >It is certainly doable by either hardware or software. You're talking about RAID-1 (disk mirroring). Most SATA >controllers are capable of doing it, but usually need the help of the OS to accomplish it. >Linux has software RAID (called "md" for "multiple devices"). grub has support for booting software RAID >>>>>volumes. I'd recommend you go off and check out the Software RAID HOWTO at: Thanks Rick, good advice. I'm wondering if this might be a better way, as far as getting back up and running quicker and easier than say rsync. Drive space is pretty inexpensive. Any thoughts on ease of use/setup of either method? Thanks http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 14 21:35:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:35:29 -0700 Subject: Mirror Mirror In-Reply-To: <200504141943.j3EJhqtf008332@mx1.redhat.com> References: <200504141943.j3EJhqtf008332@mx1.redhat.com> Message-ID: <425EE221.20503@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > >>With these SATA drives as cheap as they are I am thinking about just >>purchasing another 200 GIG HD and setting up a mirror in Linux. >> >> >>My thinking is that if one drives fails, I can simply break the >>mirror, switch SATA hard drive cables - re-boot and away I go. >> >>I am using >>Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) >> >>Can anyone tel me if this is possible, or do I have my head way up my >>??? Is this something Linux can do out of the box, or is there some >>add-on's I need to accomplish. > > >>It is certainly doable by either hardware or software. You're talking > > about RAID-1 (disk mirroring). Most SATA >controllers are capable of doing > it, but usually need the help of the OS to accomplish it. > > >>Linux has software RAID (called "md" for "multiple devices"). grub has > > support for booting software RAID > >>>>>>volumes. I'd recommend you go off and check out the Software RAID HOWTO > > at: > > > Thanks Rick, good advice. I'm wondering if this might be a better way, as > far as getting back up and running quicker and easier than say rsync. Drive > space is pretty inexpensive. > > Any thoughts on ease of use/setup of either method? rsync will synchronize files, but it won't synchronize your MBR. If your primary drive croaks, you won't have a bootable system on your backup drive. rsync was really intended to distribute things like FTP repositories, websites and things like that. You've heard of FTP mirrors, right? That's done by rsync. RAID-1 is the cheapest fault-tolerant system around. Every time the primary drive gets written to, it is duplicated on the mirror drive. If the primary goes teats up (pardon the phrase), the system fails over to the mirror drive and your system stays up. When you replace the failed drive, however, you have to tell the system to rebuild the array so the new drive reflects the operating drive. This takes time to do and the system will run slower while it occurs. Some systems won't let you even make the RAID array writable until the rebuild occurs. In other words, the machine will continue to run despite a disk failure. However, when you replace the drive and bring the machine back up, it may not come up fully until the RAID has been rebuilt. There are inherent dangers in any software RAID. If something corrupts the RAID software (bad RAM, some malignant application, a CPU overheat, etc.), then the RAID is vulnerable. In our operations, critical systems use hardware RAID, but you need a special controller to do it. The SATA controllers on most motherboards, while claiming to be hardware RAID, are in reality somewhat akin to "winmodems" in that the hardware is capable of doing a lot of the RAID-1 stuff but needs some assistance from the operating system to do the whole thing. Understand that what we do is WAY above the average person does. Because of the nature of our business, we use multiple redundancy. All of our critical systems are load balanced (there's at least two machines that do the job) and all of them run hardware SCSI RAID controllers and run them in a RAID-5 format (minimum of four disks--three for the RAID and a hot spare). If we lose a drive, the controller brings up the hot spare and rebuilds the RAID on-the-fly. The system stays up--even while the RAID is being rebuilt. We can then replace the failed drive and the new drive becomes the hot spare. Note that the Adaptec 2100S (a fine hardware RAID controller) costs about $400. A 73GB SCSI drive probably costs about $300, so one of our systems has about $1600 invested in its disk array. However, barring catastrophic issues, they're pretty robust. I've yet to have one of the 120 or so of those systems go down in five years due to disk problems. CPUs, yes. Power supplies, yes. Memory, yes. Disks, no. If a machine dies because of something else (power supply, etc.), the load balancer routes traffic to the surviving machine that does the same job. It takes a lot to kill off a service we offer! BTW, this sort of thing is technically called "RAIM" (redundant array of inexpensive machines). We call it "LOCH" (lots of cheap hardware). All that being said, for what you (and the majority of home users) want to do, a software RAID-1 is peachy and will work very well. NOTE: A RAID system is NOT a replacement for devising (and using) a good backup strategy. RAID helps your machine survive hardware faults. Backups will save your sanity--even if it's something as stupid as "Oh, sh*t! I didn't mean to delete THAT file!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say... oh, somewhere in there. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 14 22:14:53 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:14:53 -0600 Subject: Mirror Mirror In-Reply-To: <425EE221.20503@vitalstream.com> References: <200504141943.j3EJhqtf008332@mx1.redhat.com> <425EE221.20503@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113516893.21579.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 14:35 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > Scott Mertens wrote: > > > >>With these SATA drives as cheap as they are I am thinking about just > >>purchasing another 200 GIG HD and setting up a mirror in Linux. > >> > >> > >>My thinking is that if one drives fails, I can simply break the > >>mirror, switch SATA hard drive cables - re-boot and away I go. > >> > >>I am using > >>Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) > >> > >>Can anyone tel me if this is possible, or do I have my head way up my > >>??? Is this something Linux can do out of the box, or is there some > >>add-on's I need to accomplish. > > > > > >>It is certainly doable by either hardware or software. You're talking > > > > about RAID-1 (disk mirroring). Most SATA >controllers are capable of doing > > it, but usually need the help of the OS to accomplish it. > > > > > >>Linux has software RAID (called "md" for "multiple devices"). grub has > > > > support for booting software RAID > > > >>>>>>volumes. I'd recommend you go off and check out the Software RAID HOWTO > > > > at: > > > > > > Thanks Rick, good advice. I'm wondering if this might be a better way, as > > far as getting back up and running quicker and easier than say rsync. Drive > > space is pretty inexpensive. > > > > Any thoughts on ease of use/setup of either method? > > rsync will synchronize files, but it won't synchronize your MBR. If > your primary drive croaks, you won't have a bootable system on your > backup drive. rsync was really intended to distribute things like FTP > repositories, websites and things like that. You've heard of FTP > mirrors, right? That's done by rsync. > > RAID-1 is the cheapest fault-tolerant system around. Every time the > primary drive gets written to, it is duplicated on the mirror drive. > If the primary goes teats up (pardon the phrase), the system fails over > to the mirror drive and your system stays up. > > When you replace the failed drive, however, you have to tell the system > to rebuild the array so the new drive reflects the operating drive. > This takes time to do and the system will run slower while it occurs. > Some systems won't let you even make the RAID array writable until the > rebuild occurs. In other words, the machine will continue to run > despite a disk failure. However, when you replace the drive and bring > the machine back up, it may not come up fully until the RAID has been > rebuilt. > > There are inherent dangers in any software RAID. If something corrupts > the RAID software (bad RAM, some malignant application, a CPU overheat, > etc.), then the RAID is vulnerable. In our operations, critical systems > use hardware RAID, but you need a special controller to do it. The SATA > controllers on most motherboards, while claiming to be hardware RAID, > are in reality somewhat akin to "winmodems" in that the hardware is > capable of doing a lot of the RAID-1 stuff but needs some assistance > from the operating system to do the whole thing. > > Understand that what we do is WAY above the average person does. > Because of the nature of our business, we use multiple redundancy. All > of our critical systems are load balanced (there's at least two machines > that do the job) and all of them run hardware SCSI RAID controllers and > run them in a RAID-5 format (minimum of four disks--three for the RAID > and a hot spare). > > If we lose a drive, the controller brings up the hot spare and rebuilds > the RAID on-the-fly. The system stays up--even while the RAID is being > rebuilt. We can then replace the failed drive and the new drive becomes > the hot spare. Note that the Adaptec 2100S (a fine hardware RAID > controller) costs about $400. A 73GB SCSI drive probably costs about > $300, so one of our systems has about $1600 invested in its disk array. > However, barring catastrophic issues, they're pretty robust. I've yet > to have one of the 120 or so of those systems go down in five years due > to disk problems. CPUs, yes. Power supplies, yes. Memory, yes. > Disks, no. > > If a machine dies because of something else (power supply, etc.), the > load balancer routes traffic to the surviving machine that does the same > job. It takes a lot to kill off a service we offer! BTW, this sort of > thing is technically called "RAIM" (redundant array of inexpensive > machines). We call it "LOCH" (lots of cheap hardware). > > All that being said, for what you (and the majority of home users) want > to do, a software RAID-1 is peachy and will work very well. > > NOTE: A RAID system is NOT a replacement for devising (and using) a > good backup strategy. RAID helps your machine survive hardware faults. > Backups will save your sanity--even if it's something as stupid as "Oh, > sh*t! I didn't mean to delete THAT file!" Great info. I may be going overboard for a home network, however I have suffered 2 critical failures in the last 5 years that have cost me greatly. 3 years ago home struck by lightning, charge entered through modem and fried my PC. and a HD failure that was not backed up. Since I run a business from my home now I can't afford the downtime. I use ghost on two laptops and one desktop that belong to wife and kids using Windz. It to has it's limitations. In case of failure mostly I have to restore to the same machine or very similar hardware for it to work. I have taught everyone to save data on their win machines to the My Docs folder and once a night a script backs those folders to a network drive. So worst case I have to reinstall software, but data is always in 2 places. So just kind of looking for the same redundancy for the new Linux box as I am learning about it. I'm not sure but someone told me Ghost cam image a Linux box as well. Not sure how to accomplish this as Ghost is a Windows program? Maybe must have dual boot set up, boot to win and run Ghost on the linux partition? Or somehow share the Linux HD and pull the image across the wire at night? Don't know may have to research some more. Thx again. From harold at hallikainen.com Thu Apr 14 22:39:14 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mirror Mirror In-Reply-To: <1113516893.21579.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200504141943.j3EJhqtf008332@mx1.redhat.com><425EE221.20503@vitalstream.com> <1113516893.21579.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <26912.207.177.227.29.1113518354.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Because of all the things that CAN go wrong besides drives, I'm leaning towards just having a spare machine running. Every night all changed data (I'm thinking var and home, but what else) would be copied over to the backup machine. Should ANYTHING in the main machine die, I change a couple things in the router and the backup machine is online. I like the once-a-day copy instead of the continuous copy of RAID in that if something goes wrong, with RAID, we get nice copies of bad data. I've got hardware RAID on a Windoze machine here and it's corrupted all the RAID drives pretty often! On Norton Ghost, it WILL make a copy of a drive, including linux file systems. I've found, though, that the drive you're copying to really needs to be very close (exactly the same?) as the original drive or it just won't boot. I have a copy of Norton Ghost on floppy and just boot the machine with that to make a Ghost backup. It's actually running PC-DOS. Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 14 22:48:41 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:48:41 -0600 Subject: Mirror Mirror In-Reply-To: <26912.207.177.227.29.1113518354.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <200504141943.j3EJhqtf008332@mx1.redhat.com> <425EE221.20503@vitalstream.com> <1113516893.21579.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <26912.207.177.227.29.1113518354.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <1113518921.3922.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 15:39 -0700, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > Because of all the things that CAN go wrong besides drives, I'm leaning > towards just having a spare machine running. Every night all changed data > (I'm thinking var and home, but what else) would be copied over to the > backup machine. Should ANYTHING in the main machine die, I change a couple > things in the router and the backup machine is online. I like the > once-a-day copy instead of the continuous copy of RAID in that if > something goes wrong, with RAID, we get nice copies of bad data. I've got > hardware RAID on a Windoze machine here and it's corrupted all the RAID > drives pretty often! > > On Norton Ghost, it WILL make a copy of a drive, including linux file > systems. I've found, though, that the drive you're copying to really needs > to be very close (exactly the same?) as the original drive or it just > won't boot. I have a copy of Norton Ghost on floppy and just boot the > machine with that to make a Ghost backup. It's actually running PC-DOS. > Good idea, but I like to automate backups as much as possible. I do a lot of travel and if left up to me it might not get backed up for a few weeks. However I hadn't thought about booting to the DOS on the Ghost CD and trying it. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 14 22:51:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:51:08 -0700 Subject: Mirror Mirror In-Reply-To: <1113516893.21579.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200504141943.j3EJhqtf008332@mx1.redhat.com> <425EE221.20503@vitalstream.com> <1113516893.21579.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425EF3DC.1050309@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: (mucho stuff deleted) >>NOTE: A RAID system is NOT a replacement for devising (and using) a >>good backup strategy. RAID helps your machine survive hardware faults. >>Backups will save your sanity--even if it's something as stupid as "Oh, >>sh*t! I didn't mean to delete THAT file!" > > > Great info. I may be going overboard for a home network, however I have > suffered 2 critical failures in the last 5 years that have cost me > greatly. 3 years ago home struck by lightning, charge entered through > modem and fried my PC. and a HD failure that was not backed up. Since > I run a business from my home now I can't afford the downtime. > > I use ghost on two laptops and one desktop that belong to wife and kids > using Windz. It to has it's limitations. In case of failure mostly I > have to restore to the same machine or very similar hardware for it to > work. I have taught everyone to save data on their win machines to the > My Docs folder and once a night a script backs those folders to a > network drive. So worst case I have to reinstall software, but data is > always in 2 places. So just kind of looking for the same redundancy for > the new Linux box as I am learning about it. > > I'm not sure but someone told me Ghost cam image a Linux box as well. > Not sure how to accomplish this as Ghost is a Windows program? Maybe > must have dual boot set up, boot to win and run Ghost on the linux > partition? Or somehow share the Linux HD and pull the image across the > wire at night? Don't know may have to research some more. Ghost will image a Linux drive (well, at least Ghost 2002 and later will). We use it on occasion. We boot off the CD and run it from there. There are other "cloners", too (Ultimate Boot CD, Paragon Drive Backup, etc.). In a physical catastrophe (tornado, volcano, or something we have to worry about in Southern California--earthquakes), no amount of RAID is going to save you. If the machine (and drives) are destroyed, they're gone. RAID only allows your machine to survive hardware failures on the drives. Backups are the only safety net you have--and I mean off-site backups. It does you no good to have the backup tapes sitting next to the machine that was just destroyed. Back up to tape and mail the tape to where the chance of the disaster won't affect it. On a more local scale, you CAN do a "data vault". Go get yourself a small UPS, a machine you can use as the backup server, a wireless card or access point, and small safe big enough to hold it all. Put the UPS, backup machine and wireless connection into the fire safe with just the antenna and the UPS power cord sticking out. You'll have to provide some ventilation so the machine doesn't overheat, but there are safes that provide that and still are fire rated. Anyway, that's your "data vault". I actually have such a setup at home, but I use something called a "gun safe". There's no guns in it...it's just tall and not too deep so it fits in a closet. My backup system is in it along with some important papers that are more convenient to have at home than in my safety deposit box. Put a wireless card into your main machine. Have your main machine push rsync data to the backup machine over the wireless. The backup machine (vault) has no physical connection between it and any other machine in your home, nor is it directly connected to the wiring in your house. The backup machine is in a safe so it's fairly impervious to physical damage. If you use 128- or 256-bit WEP encoding on the wireless and don't broadcast the ESSID, you'll be reasonably safe. You can have the backup machine publish Samba shares so the Windows machines can back up to it, as well. Note that this will back up the files. It won't produce a bootable disk for the destroyed machine, however, so you'd have to reinstall the OS and recover the data files from the backup machine. This may be overkill, but this "vault" can be set up for about $2000 and will serve you very well. It would also be deductible from your taxes and would prove to any I.R.S. agent that you take your home-based business very seriously indeed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 13:21:19 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:21:19 -0600 Subject: Update 1 Beta question Message-ID: <1113571279.15908.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have been told by Redhat support that the drivers for my sound card are not in my current release. Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant) I was also told they were included in Update 1 Beta which would be supported for one month if applied. Hopefully by that time the official release would be out. In looking at the website it looks like a complete reinstall of Linux? I might be wrong on this, but when I added myself to the beta list it took me to a page to download ISO's. My question is to apply this update, do I need to burn ISO's and do a complete re-install of RHES? Or is there another way? When I installed I did not care about sound as this is a server in a workgroup. However I am being asked if I can put an answering maching on this Linux box, Yes the old Real-to-Real tape finally broke after 20 years! and of course first I have to get sound working to play back messages. To that end if anyone is aware of any RH software that will answer phone and take messages, let me know. Thanks From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 13:55:17 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:55:17 -0700 Subject: Update 1 Beta question In-Reply-To: <1113571279.15908.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113571279.15908.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0504150655599f7fce@mail.gmail.com> On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > I have been told by Redhat support that the drivers for my sound card > are not in my current release. Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 > (Nahant) > > I was also told they were included in Update 1 Beta which would be > supported for one month if applied. Hopefully by that time the official > release would be out. In looking at the website it looks like a complete > reinstall of Linux? I might be wrong on this, but when I added myself > to the beta list it took me to a page to download ISO's. > > My question is to apply this update, do I need to burn ISO's and do a > complete re-install of RHES? Or is there another way? > > When I installed I did not care about sound as this is a server in a > workgroup. However I am being asked if I can put an answering maching > on this Linux box, Yes the old Real-to-Real tape finally broke after 20 > years! and of course first I have to get sound working to play back > messages. > > To that end if anyone is aware of any RH software that will answer phone > and take messages, let me know. > > Thanks Scott, It will be interesting to hear some of the more experienced Linux guys responses on this. Since the 2.6 kernels Alsa has been included in the kernel. I (speaking as an audio guy, not a RH guy or a sys admin / IT guy) would suggest you consider building your own kernel. This way you don't really change the guts of your system, you just put a new kernel and new modules along side the existing one. You can choose which one to run at boot time. If the new one works, then great. If not then you go back to what you are running right now and consider their update. Granted, building a kernel is a bit daunting for a newbie, but it's one of those rights of passage that pretty much anyone working with Linux eventually goes through. If you have fairly straight forward hardware (x86, Intel or AMD,) no major issues with video performance and you're comfortable digging into understanding this a bit then it's a really great experience and fun when they boot and you know more than you did before. If you're a hands off sort of guy then it's likely not for you. In my experience this would be what I'd do in your case as it's exactly what I've done in my case. I do not use Redhat or Fedora kernels on any of my machines. My kernels come either from outside sources or built myself from code downloaded at http://www.kernel.org . So that you're not totally worried (it's good to be worried a little bit!) ;-) I'll report that I've been doing this for about 4-5 years now and have NEVER hurt a machine by building my own kernel. there are only a couple of places that you need to be careful to not overwrite existing data. Other than that it's very simple now that we all use grub. (you do use grub, correct?) Anyway, that's my input. New kernel code will most certainly have your sound card software. There is a more complicated way you could approach this where you take the Redhat kernel source tree and patch it with your necessary Alsa stuff but for a newbie I would not suggest that path. I don't do it either. Good luck whatever you decide, and as I say, I'll be interested in other folks answers to this question. Cheers, Mark From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 14:11:08 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:11:08 -0600 Subject: Update 1 Beta question In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0504150655599f7fce@mail.gmail.com> References: <1113571279.15908.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504150655599f7fce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1113574268.15908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 06:55 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > > I have been told by Redhat support that the drivers for my sound card > > are not in my current release. Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 > > (Nahant) > > > > I was also told they were included in Update 1 Beta which would be > > supported for one month if applied. Hopefully by that time the official > > release would be out. In looking at the website it looks like a complete > > reinstall of Linux? I might be wrong on this, but when I added myself > > to the beta list it took me to a page to download ISO's. > > > > My question is to apply this update, do I need to burn ISO's and do a > > complete re-install of RHES? Or is there another way? > > > > When I installed I did not care about sound as this is a server in a > > workgroup. However I am being asked if I can put an answering maching > > on this Linux box, Yes the old Real-to-Real tape finally broke after 20 > > years! and of course first I have to get sound working to play back > > messages. > > > > To that end if anyone is aware of any RH software that will answer phone > > and take messages, let me know. > > > > Thanks > > Scott, > It will be interesting to hear some of the more experienced Linux > guys responses on this. > > Since the 2.6 kernels Alsa has been included in the kernel. I > (speaking as an audio guy, not a RH guy or a sys admin / IT guy) would > suggest you consider building your own kernel. This way you don't > really change the guts of your system, you just put a new kernel and > new modules along side the existing one. You can choose which one to > run at boot time. If the new one works, then great. If not then you go > back to what you are running right now and consider their update. > Granted, building a kernel is a bit daunting for a newbie, but it's > one of those rights of passage that pretty much anyone working with > Linux eventually goes through. If you have fairly straight forward > hardware (x86, Intel or AMD,) no major issues with video performance > and you're comfortable digging into understanding this a bit then it's > a really great experience and fun when they boot and you know more > than you did before. If you're a hands off sort of guy then it's > likely not for you. It's a little frustrating because as a newbie, I sort of have to be led by the hand when doing these types of things. Just the other day I was trying to find a file, and I found the man pages on "find" very frustrating and hard to understand. I purchased a book on Linux, but it had only a paragraph on find, and no examples. Took me over an hour to work out how to find a hidden file. ie: find ./ -name filename. Good thing is I won't forget it anytime soon. I would venture to say that hands on is the way most people learn. It would be too difficult to sit back and take notes and watch someone else. > > In my experience this would be what I'd do in your case as it's > exactly what I've done in my case. I do not use Redhat or Fedora > kernels on any of my machines. My kernels come either from outside > sources or built myself from code downloaded at http://www.kernel.org > . > > So that you're not totally worried (it's good to be worried a > little bit!) ;-) I'll report that I've been doing this for about 4-5 > years now and have NEVER hurt a machine by building my own kernel. > there are only a couple of places that you need to be careful to not > overwrite existing data. Other than that it's very simple now that we > all use grub. (you do use grub, correct?) How can I tell which boot loader I use? > > Anyway, that's my input. New kernel code will most certainly have > your sound card software. > > There is a more complicated way you could approach this where you > take the Redhat kernel source tree and patch it with your necessary > Alsa stuff but for a newbie I would not suggest that path. I don't do > it either. > > Good luck whatever you decide, and as I say, I'll be interested in > other folks answers to this question. > > Cheers, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:17:21 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:17:21 -0700 Subject: Update 1 Beta question In-Reply-To: <1113574268.15908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113571279.15908.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504150655599f7fce@mail.gmail.com> <1113574268.15908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050415071764e46eca@mail.gmail.com> On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 06:55 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > > > I have been told by Redhat support that the drivers for my sound card > > > are not in my current release. Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 > > > (Nahant) > > > > > > I was also told they were included in Update 1 Beta which would be > > > supported for one month if applied. Hopefully by that time the official > > > release would be out. In looking at the website it looks like a complete > > > reinstall of Linux? I might be wrong on this, but when I added myself > > > to the beta list it took me to a page to download ISO's. > > > > > > My question is to apply this update, do I need to burn ISO's and do a > > > complete re-install of RHES? Or is there another way? > > > > > > When I installed I did not care about sound as this is a server in a > > > workgroup. However I am being asked if I can put an answering maching > > > on this Linux box, Yes the old Real-to-Real tape finally broke after 20 > > > years! and of course first I have to get sound working to play back > > > messages. > > > > > > To that end if anyone is aware of any RH software that will answer phone > > > and take messages, let me know. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Scott, > > It will be interesting to hear some of the more experienced Linux > > guys responses on this. > > > > Since the 2.6 kernels Alsa has been included in the kernel. I > > (speaking as an audio guy, not a RH guy or a sys admin / IT guy) would > > suggest you consider building your own kernel. This way you don't > > really change the guts of your system, you just put a new kernel and > > new modules along side the existing one. You can choose which one to > > run at boot time. If the new one works, then great. If not then you go > > back to what you are running right now and consider their update. > > > Granted, building a kernel is a bit daunting for a newbie, but it's > > one of those rights of passage that pretty much anyone working with > > Linux eventually goes through. If you have fairly straight forward > > hardware (x86, Intel or AMD,) no major issues with video performance > > and you're comfortable digging into understanding this a bit then it's > > a really great experience and fun when they boot and you know more > > than you did before. If you're a hands off sort of guy then it's > > likely not for you. > > It's a little frustrating because as a newbie, I sort of have to be led > by the hand when doing these types of things. Just the other day I was > trying to find a file, and I found the man pages on "find" very > frustrating and hard to understand. I purchased a book on Linux, but it > had only a paragraph on find, and no examples. Took me over an hour to > work out how to find a hidden file. ie: find ./ -name filename. Good > thing is I won't forget it anytime soon. > > I would venture to say that hands on is the way most people learn. It > would be too difficult to sit back and take notes and watch someone > else. Been there, done that. We all have. It's a major issue with Linux that jsut takes folks some time to get through. That's mostly why these lists exist and why we all write each other. Again, building a kernel is 'complicated' and 'taxing' but it's not 'magic'. You can do it if you want to and nothing I know if is going to get hurt by trying. Using their update will be 'easy'. ;-) Consider this though. What sort of strange hardware devices do you want to hook to this machien sometime in the future. The moment you find that they are not built into the Redhat kernel (and it will occur eventually) you'll be right back in this situation. (OH YEAH! - a sound card is a 'weird hardware device'!) ;-) > > > > In my experience this would be what I'd do in your case as it's > > exactly what I've done in my case. I do not use Redhat or Fedora > > kernels on any of my machines. My kernels come either from outside > > sources or built myself from code downloaded at http://www.kernel.org > > . > > > > So that you're not totally worried (it's good to be worried a > > little bit!) ;-) I'll report that I've been doing this for about 4-5 > > years now and have NEVER hurt a machine by building my own kernel. > > there are only a couple of places that you need to be careful to not > > overwrite existing data. Other than that it's very simple now that we > > all use grub. (you do use grub, correct?) > > How can I tell which boot loader I use? ls /boot | grep grub I'm sure you do use grub but I'm just beign careful here to look at the issues. > > > > > Anyway, that's my input. New kernel code will most certainly have > > your sound card software. > > > > There is a more complicated way you could approach this where you > > take the Redhat kernel source tree and patch it with your necessary > > Alsa stuff but for a newbie I would not suggest that path. I don't do > > it either. > > > > Good luck whatever you decide, and as I say, I'll be interested in > > other folks answers to this question. > > > > Cheers, > > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > From friz at godshell.com Fri Apr 15 14:30:46 2005 From: friz at godshell.com (Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:30:46 -0400 Subject: Update 1 Beta question In-Reply-To: <1113571279.15908.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113571279.15908.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <425FD016.1060506@godshell.com> Scott Mertens wrote: >I have been told by Redhat support that the drivers for my sound card >are not in my current release. Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 >(Nahant) > >I was also told they were included in Update 1 Beta which would be >supported for one month if applied. Hopefully by that time the official >release would be out. In looking at the website it looks like a complete >reinstall of Linux? I might be wrong on this, but when I added myself >to the beta list it took me to a page to download ISO's. > >My question is to apply this update, do I need to burn ISO's and do a >complete re-install of RHES? Or is there another way? > > Until they release the updates on the up2date server, that may be the only way. I would recommend calling and asking if there's a beta rhn server where you can do this.. You *could* re-install 4.0 with the iso's provided, but... I'd be afraid to try that unless this was a non-critical server.. >When I installed I did not care about sound as this is a server in a >workgroup. However I am being asked if I can put an answering maching >on this Linux box, Yes the old Real-to-Real tape finally broke after 20 >years! and of course first I have to get sound working to play back >messages. > >To that end if anyone is aware of any RH software that will answer phone >and take messages, let me know. > > Hrm.. not off the top of my head.. The only relephony product I'm aware of is Asterisk ... I believe that's a PBX program though.. I don't know much about it.. yet.. :) >Thanks > > -- --------------------------- Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold Engine / Technology Programmer friz at godshell.com RedHat Certified - RHCE # 803004140609871 MySQL Pro Certified - ID# 207171862 MySQL Core Certified - ID# 205982910 --------------------------- "Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming." From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 17:03:55 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:03:55 -0600 Subject: New drive Message-ID: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and image drive to new Drive. So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 17:08:14 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:08:14 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software > included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a > backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and > image drive to new Drive. > > So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image > file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then > boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? Actually it's pretty bad to be formatted FAT32 in this application. If you copy Linux files per se to the drive then since FAT32 doesn't support owner:group:world permissions and you'll lose that info and have a terrible time doing a restore. Much better to format it ext3 and take advantage of the journaling for extra safety. My 2 cents, Mark From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 17:16:06 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:16:06 -0600 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 10:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > > I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software > > included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a > > backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and > > image drive to new Drive. > > > > So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image > > file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then > > boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? > > Actually it's pretty bad to be formatted FAT32 in this application. If > you copy Linux files per se to the drive then since FAT32 doesn't > support owner:group:world permissions and you'll lose that info and > have a terrible time doing a restore. This is good to know! > > Much better to format it ext3 and take advantage of the journaling for > extra safety. Now I have to try to do some research to see how to mount and where? I have only one other drive, also SATA that RH is seeing as SCSI > > My 2 cents, Ana a bargain at that rate! From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 17:21:24 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:21:24 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050415102115ffff1c@mail.gmail.com> On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 10:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > > > I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software > > > included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a > > > backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and > > > image drive to new Drive. > > > > > > So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image > > > file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then > > > boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? > > > > Actually it's pretty bad to be formatted FAT32 in this application. If > > you copy Linux files per se to the drive then since FAT32 doesn't > > support owner:group:world permissions and you'll lose that info and > > have a terrible time doing a restore. > > This is good to know! > > > > Much better to format it ext3 and take advantage of the journaling for > > extra safety. > > Now I have to try to do some research to see how to mount and where? I > have only one other drive, also SATA that RH is seeing as SCSI > > > > My 2 cents, > Ana a bargain at that rate! Well, there we go again with that 'strange hardware' stuff we talked about earlier. SATA drives are typically seen as SCSI devices so, assuming you have NO other SCSI in the system you might try (as root) fdisk /dev/sda and see what happens. If you find the drive (look carefull at the size it's reporting to make sure you think it's the right drive) then type 'q' to quit, for now. At that point you're ready to do some partitioning and formating. If not found then there's two or more reasons: 1) Your kernel doesn't have SATA support. (There you go, building kernels again!) ;-) 2) Your kernel doesn't have SCSI support, or it must be loaded as a module. 3) There is some other SCSI device at sda. Try fdisk /dev/sdb or sdc etc. and jsut poke around a bit, but be very careful with fdisk. A more formal way to look for the drive would be to run dmesg in a terminal and see if you can spot the system findign a SCSI drive during boot. Most of all, be careful and have fun son. ;-) - Mark From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Apr 15 17:38:35 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:38:35 -0400 Subject: Dropping email on the floor? Message-ID: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> Hi Guys, I've just recently started seeing large numbers of emails being dropped, but only from specific sources Here is what sendmail verbose mode is showing (two examples): 26969 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:29:23 -0400 26969 <<< EHLO nl-mail5.internet.com 26969 >>> 250-redline.kinz.org Hello nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185], pleased to meet you 26969 >>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 26969 >>> 250-8BITMIME 26969 >>> 250-SIZE 26969 >>> 250-DSN 26969 >>> 250-ONEX 26969 >>> 250-ETRN 26969 >>> 250-XUSR 26969 >>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI 26969 >>> 250 HELP 26969 <<< MAIL FROM: 26970 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok 26970 <<< [EOF] 26970 >>> 421 4.4.1 redline.kinz.org Lost input channel from nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185] 26968 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:29:25 -0400 26968 <<< HELO n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com 26968 >>> 250 redline.kinz.org Hello n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.94.237.48], pleased to meet you 26968 <<< MAIL FROM: 26971 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok 26971 <<< RSET 26971 >>> 250 2.0.0 Reset state 26968 <<< QUIT 26968 >>> 221 2.0.0 redline.kinz.org closing connection There seem to be two failure modes, one is the "Lost input channel" and the other is getting a SMTP "RSET" command from the MTA of the sending side. NOTE: "<<<" seems to indicate messages sent by the external SMTP party and ">>>" seems to indicate responses by my side (the "inside") Any suggestions would be appreciated. NOTE: Comcast is having DNS server problems, Can that be affecting this? and if so, why only for internet.com and yahoo groups bulk mail servers? ONEMORENOTE: I have turned off all my sorbs style email blocking while trying to figure this out. It seems to make no difference. FPIA TIA -- http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 15 18:02:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:02:08 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <426001A0.2030400@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software > included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a > backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and > image drive to new Drive. > > So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image > file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then > boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? Well, if you're actually using Ghost (Norton Ghost), it's irrelevant what the target drive is formatted as, since Ghost will overwrite it Ghost does a block-for-block copy, roughly equivalent to a Linux "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 18:08:26 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:08:26 -0600 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <426001A0.2030400@vitalstream.com> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <426001A0.2030400@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113588506.4267.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 11:02 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software > > included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a > > backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and > > image drive to new Drive. > > > > So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image > > file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then > > boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? > > Well, if you're actually using Ghost (Norton Ghost), it's irrelevant > what the target drive is formatted as, since Ghost will overwrite it > Ghost does a block-for-block copy, roughly equivalent to a Linux > "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512" I am considering using Norton Ghost 9 (Latest) I think. However if Linux can do the same thing with a command similar to what you state below, it may be better to create a script that will do that on a nightly basis in Linux. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 15 18:13:51 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:13:51 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050415102115ffff1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b050415102115ffff1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4260045F.9070803@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > >>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 10:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>>On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: >>> >>>>I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software >>>>included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a >>>>backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and >>>>image drive to new Drive. >>>> >>>>So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image >>>>file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then >>>>boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? >>> >>>Actually it's pretty bad to be formatted FAT32 in this application. If >>>you copy Linux files per se to the drive then since FAT32 doesn't >>>support owner:group:world permissions and you'll lose that info and >>>have a terrible time doing a restore. >> >>This is good to know! >> >>>Much better to format it ext3 and take advantage of the journaling for >>>extra safety. >> >>Now I have to try to do some research to see how to mount and where? I >>have only one other drive, also SATA that RH is seeing as SCSI >> >>>My 2 cents, >> >>Ana a bargain at that rate! > > > Well, there we go again with that 'strange hardware' stuff we talked > about earlier. SATA drives are typically seen as SCSI devices so, > assuming you have NO other SCSI in the system you might try (as root) > > fdisk /dev/sda > > and see what happens. If you find the drive (look carefull at the size > it's reporting to make sure you think it's the right drive) then type > 'q' to quit, for now. At that point you're ready to do some > partitioning and formating. If not found then there's two or more > reasons: > > 1) Your kernel doesn't have SATA support. (There you go, building > kernels again!) ;-) > > 2) Your kernel doesn't have SCSI support, or it must be loaded as a module. > > 3) There is some other SCSI device at sda. Try fdisk /dev/sdb or sdc > etc. and jsut poke around a bit, but be very careful with fdisk. > > A more formal way to look for the drive would be to run dmesg in a > terminal and see if you can spot the system findign a SCSI drive > during boot. I think you missed that, Mark. His current drive (SATA) is being seen as SCSI (which, as you point out, makes perfect sense as SATA drives are treated as SCSI). Scott, SCSI, SATA, and damned near any storage media you can plug into USB or firewire are all treated by Linux as SCSI devices. Why? Because SCSI is the most flexible way of dealing with disparate devices. The first SCSI (or media treated as SCSI) by the kernel is assigned the device name "/dev/sda" (SCSI disk "a"). The second will be "/dev/sdb" (SCSI disk "b") and so on. The odds are that your current SATA drive (which contains your operating system) is /dev/sda. The second one will most likely be /dev/sdb. Mark's idea of using fdisk is logical. If you do "fdisk -l /dev/sda", you should see a summary of how big the drive is as well as the partition table on it. Similarly, you should be able to do an "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" and see a similar thing, but you'll probably only see one partition that's listed as "W95 FAT32". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The gene pool could use a little chlorine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 18:30:01 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:30:01 -0600 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <4260045F.9070803@vitalstream.com> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b050415102115ffff1c@mail.gmail.com> <4260045F.9070803@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113589801.4267.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 11:13 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > > > >>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 10:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > >>>On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > >>> > >>>>I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software > >>>>included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a > >>>>backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and > >>>>image drive to new Drive. > >>>> > >>>>So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image > >>>>file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then > >>>>boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? > >>> > >>>Actually it's pretty bad to be formatted FAT32 in this application. If > >>>you copy Linux files per se to the drive then since FAT32 doesn't > >>>support owner:group:world permissions and you'll lose that info and > >>>have a terrible time doing a restore. > >> > >>This is good to know! > >> > >>>Much better to format it ext3 and take advantage of the journaling for > >>>extra safety. > >> > >>Now I have to try to do some research to see how to mount and where? I > >>have only one other drive, also SATA that RH is seeing as SCSI > >> > >>>My 2 cents, > >> > >>Ana a bargain at that rate! > > > > > > Well, there we go again with that 'strange hardware' stuff we talked > > about earlier. SATA drives are typically seen as SCSI devices so, > > assuming you have NO other SCSI in the system you might try (as root) > > > > fdisk /dev/sda > > > > and see what happens. If you find the drive (look carefull at the size > > it's reporting to make sure you think it's the right drive) then type > > 'q' to quit, for now. At that point you're ready to do some > > partitioning and formating. If not found then there's two or more > > reasons: > > > > 1) Your kernel doesn't have SATA support. (There you go, building > > kernels again!) ;-) > > > > 2) Your kernel doesn't have SCSI support, or it must be loaded as a module. > > > > 3) There is some other SCSI device at sda. Try fdisk /dev/sdb or sdc > > etc. and jsut poke around a bit, but be very careful with fdisk. > > > > A more formal way to look for the drive would be to run dmesg in a > > terminal and see if you can spot the system findign a SCSI drive > > during boot. > > I think you missed that, Mark. His current drive (SATA) is being seen > as SCSI (which, as you point out, makes perfect sense as SATA drives > are treated as SCSI). > > Scott, SCSI, SATA, and damned near any storage media you can plug into > USB or firewire are all treated by Linux as SCSI devices. Why? Because > SCSI is the most flexible way of dealing with disparate devices. > > The first SCSI (or media treated as SCSI) by the kernel is assigned the > device name "/dev/sda" (SCSI disk "a"). The second will be "/dev/sdb" > (SCSI disk "b") and so on. The odds are that your current SATA drive > (which contains your operating system) is /dev/sda. The second one will > most likely be /dev/sdb. > > Mark's idea of using fdisk is logical. If you do "fdisk -l /dev/sda", > you should see a summary of how big the drive is as well as the > partition table on it. Similarly, you should be able to do an "fdisk -l > /dev/sdb" and see a similar thing, but you'll probably only see one > partition that's listed as "W95 FAT32". > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - The gene pool could use a little chlorine. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 15 18:33:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:33:35 -0700 Subject: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > Hi Guys, > I've just recently started seeing large numbers of emails being dropped, > but only from specific sources > > Here is what sendmail verbose mode is showing (two examples): > > 26969 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr > 2005 13:29:23 -0400 > 26969 <<< EHLO nl-mail5.internet.com > 26969 >>> 250-redline.kinz.org Hello nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185], pleased to meet you > 26969 >>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 26969 >>> 250-8BITMIME > 26969 >>> 250-SIZE > 26969 >>> 250-DSN > 26969 >>> 250-ONEX > 26969 >>> 250-ETRN > 26969 >>> 250-XUSR > 26969 >>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI > 26969 >>> 250 HELP > 26969 <<< MAIL FROM: > 26970 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok > 26970 <<< [EOF] > 26970 >>> 421 4.4.1 redline.kinz.org Lost input channel from nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185] > 26968 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:29:25 -0400 > 26968 <<< HELO n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com > 26968 >>> 250 redline.kinz.org Hello n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.94.237.48], pleased to meet you > 26968 <<< MAIL FROM: > 26971 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok > 26971 <<< RSET > 26971 >>> 250 2.0.0 Reset state > 26968 <<< QUIT > 26968 >>> 221 2.0.0 redline.kinz.org closing connection > > > There seem to be two failure modes, one is the "Lost input channel" and > the other is getting a SMTP "RSET" command from the MTA of the sending > side. The first one is a fairly common probe by machines looking for open relays--especially MS Exchange servers. I'd consider that an attack. The second one looks like a similar attack, but more along the lines of an attempted SMTP DOS attack. I'm willing to bet that the IP addresses are spoofed as well. > NOTE: "<<<" seems to indicate messages sent by the external SMTP party and > ">>>" seems to indicate responses by my side (the "inside") Yes, "<<<" refers to INCOMING traffic TO your machine, ">>>" refers to OUTGOING traffic FROM your machine (think of the arrows as relative to your system). > NOTE: Comcast is having DNS server problems, Can that be affecting > this? and if so, why only for internet.com and yahoo groups bulk mail > servers? No, these are not DNS issues (otherwise you'd get only the IP address of the remote machines and not a reverse DNS resolution giving the host names). The reverse resolution is correct, BTW, but the IPs are probably spoofed. > ONEMORENOTE: > I have turned off all my sorbs style email blocking while trying to > figure this out. It seems to make no difference. FPIA As I said, these look like probes to see if YOU are an open relay. Welcome to the world of mail administration. Remember, I get this crap every day and we process over 1M legitimate messages per day (and reject about 2M due to spam, viruses or probes such as you're seeing). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 18:36:54 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:36:54 -0600 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <4260045F.9070803@vitalstream.com> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b050415102115ffff1c@mail.gmail.com> <4260045F.9070803@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113590214.4267.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 11:13 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > > > >>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 10:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > >>>On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > >>> > >>>>I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software > >>>>included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a > >>>>backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and > >>>>image drive to new Drive. > >>>> > >>>>So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image > >>>>file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then > >>>>boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? > >>> > >>>Actually it's pretty bad to be formatted FAT32 in this application. If > >>>you copy Linux files per se to the drive then since FAT32 doesn't > >>>support owner:group:world permissions and you'll lose that info and > >>>have a terrible time doing a restore. > >> > >>This is good to know! > >> > >>>Much better to format it ext3 and take advantage of the journaling for > >>>extra safety. > >> > >>Now I have to try to do some research to see how to mount and where? I > >>have only one other drive, also SATA that RH is seeing as SCSI > >> > >>>My 2 cents, > >> > >>Ana a bargain at that rate! > > > > > > Well, there we go again with that 'strange hardware' stuff we talked > > about earlier. SATA drives are typically seen as SCSI devices so, > > assuming you have NO other SCSI in the system you might try (as root) > > > > fdisk /dev/sda > > > > and see what happens. If you find the drive (look carefull at the size > > it's reporting to make sure you think it's the right drive) then type > > 'q' to quit, for now. At that point you're ready to do some > > partitioning and formating. If not found then there's two or more > > reasons: > > > > 1) Your kernel doesn't have SATA support. (There you go, building > > kernels again!) ;-) > > > > 2) Your kernel doesn't have SCSI support, or it must be loaded as a module. > > > > 3) There is some other SCSI device at sda. Try fdisk /dev/sdb or sdc > > etc. and jsut poke around a bit, but be very careful with fdisk. > > > > A more formal way to look for the drive would be to run dmesg in a > > terminal and see if you can spot the system findign a SCSI drive > > during boot. > > I think you missed that, Mark. His current drive (SATA) is being seen > as SCSI (which, as you point out, makes perfect sense as SATA drives > are treated as SCSI). > > Scott, SCSI, SATA, and damned near any storage media you can plug into > USB or firewire are all treated by Linux as SCSI devices. Why? Because > SCSI is the most flexible way of dealing with disparate devices. > > The first SCSI (or media treated as SCSI) by the kernel is assigned the > device name "/dev/sda" (SCSI disk "a"). The second will be "/dev/sdb" > (SCSI disk "b") and so on. The odds are that your current SATA drive > (which contains your operating system) is /dev/sda. The second one will > most likely be /dev/sdb. > > Mark's idea of using fdisk is logical. If you do "fdisk -l /dev/sda", > you should see a summary of how big the drive is as well as the > partition table on it. Similarly, you should be able to do an "fdisk -l > /dev/sdb" and see a similar thing, but you'll probably only see one > partition that's listed as "W95 FAT32". [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sda2 14 24321 195254010 8e Linux LVM So if I am reading this right, it is telling me the first disk has two partitions on it. sda1, and sda2 [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 24792 199141708+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [root at RHServer01 ~]# This is the one I just added and formatted as Fat32. Two questions come to mind. 1. How can I tell what shares/directories are on sda2? Like /home /usr etc. 2. sdb1 is showing as a boot device, this is the drive I intend on making a backup drive. Do I need to do anything to mount it, or has it automounted? Does it even matter given that you said earlier that Ghost will write block for block from drive to drive. Thanks From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 19:09:34 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:09:34 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <1113590214.4267.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b050415102115ffff1c@mail.gmail.com> <4260045F.9070803@vitalstream.com> <1113590214.4267.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0504151209662a3c12@mail.gmail.com> > > > > Mark's idea of using fdisk is logical. If you do "fdisk -l /dev/sda", > > you should see a summary of how big the drive is as well as the > > partition table on it. Similarly, you should be able to do an "fdisk -l > > /dev/sdb" and see a similar thing, but you'll probably only see one > > partition that's listed as "W95 FAT32". > > [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sda > > Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 14 24321 195254010 8e Linux LVM > > So if I am reading this right, it is telling me the first disk has two > partitions on it. sda1, and sda2 Well, yes, but then what's inside the LVM partition is beyond me. I guess your swap partition is in there but we cannot see it. I don't like stuff I cannot see so I haven't used LVM. > > [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb > > Disk /dev/sdb: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdb1 * 1 24792 199141708+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > [root at RHServer01 ~]# > > This is the one I just added and formatted as Fat32. There you go! You're a star! > > Two questions come to mind. > 1. How can I tell what shares/directories are on sda2? Like /home /usr > etc. The mount command: [mark at Godzilla mark]$ mount /dev/hda4 on / type ext3 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) /dev/hda6 on /home type ext3 (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) none on /var/lib/jack/tmp type tmpfs (rw) none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw) /dev/sda1 on /home/mark/Audio/audio1 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=mark) /dev/sdb3 on /home/mark/Audio/audio2 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=mark) /dev/sdc1 on /home/mark/Audio/audio3 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=mark) /dev/sdb1 on /home/mark/music type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=mark) [mark at Godzilla mark]$ > > 2. sdb1 is showing as a boot device, this is the drive I intend on > making a backup drive. Do I need to do anything to mount it, or has it > automounted? Does it even matter given that you said earlier that Ghost > will write block for block from drive to drive. It's marked bootable by your DOS software. My input (if and when you are ready) is to enter fdisk, blow the partition away, make one or more new ones, format them, mount them, and then be done with the gremlin on the other end of this chat named 'mark'. ;-) CAUTION - Please read the man pages and proceed carefully here. The following is from memory, but I do this fairly often to it's not distant memory. CAUTION 2 - If Rick or anyone more exerienced than me (almost everyone!) says to do somethign different then OBEY them with a smile! ;-) Here's how I think it would go: fdisk /dev/sdb p (to make sure you are on the right drive with one partition) d 1 n p 1 Hit enter a couple of times to make one partition the full size of the drive p (to see your new partition before you commit) w (to commit) q (if necessary - I don't think it is. w drops you back to the command line.) Look for any error messages. Sometimes a reboot is required. Happened to me this morning in fact.) At this point, if I got it right you'll have a Linux partition on the drive the full size of the drive. You can make smaller ones if you want to. Now you format it with ext3 mke2fs -j -L newbackup /dev/sdb1 BE VERY careful here not to type /dev/sda1 or you'll blow away your existing drive and have to rebuild your system. mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/newbackup And you're up and running. We can handle putting the mount into /etc/fstab later if you want. Cheers, Mark > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Apr 15 20:20:26 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:20:26 -0400 Subject: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com>; from rstevens@vitalstream.com on Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:33:35AM -0700 References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:33:35AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Jeff Kinz wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > I've just recently started seeing large numbers of emails being dropped, > > but only from specific sources > > > > Here is what sendmail verbose mode is showing (two examples): > > > > 26969 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr > > 2005 13:29:23 -0400 > > 26969 <<< EHLO nl-mail5.internet.com > > 26969 >>> 250-redline.kinz.org Hello nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185], pleased to meet you > > 26969 >>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > > 26969 >>> 250-8BITMIME > > 26969 >>> 250-SIZE > > 26969 >>> 250-DSN > > 26969 >>> 250-ONEX > > 26969 >>> 250-ETRN > > 26969 >>> 250-XUSR > > 26969 >>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI > > 26969 >>> 250 HELP > > 26969 <<< MAIL FROM: > > 26970 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok > > 26970 <<< [EOF] > > 26970 >>> 421 4.4.1 redline.kinz.org Lost input channel from nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185] > > 26968 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:29:25 -0400 > > 26968 <<< HELO n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com > > 26968 >>> 250 redline.kinz.org Hello n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.94.237.48], pleased to meet you > > 26968 <<< MAIL FROM: > > 26971 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok > > 26971 <<< RSET > > 26971 >>> 250 2.0.0 Reset state > > 26968 <<< QUIT > > 26968 >>> 221 2.0.0 redline.kinz.org closing connection > > > > > > There seem to be two failure modes, one is the "Lost input channel" and > > the other is getting a SMTP "RSET" command from the MTA of the sending > > side. > > The first one is a fairly common probe by machines looking for open > relays--especially MS Exchange servers. I'd consider that an attack. > The second one looks like a similar attack, but more along the lines of > an attempted SMTP DOS attack. I'm willing to bet that the IP addresses > are spoofed as well. It seems I forgot some essential information, er, um, these two email sources, internet.com and bulk.scd.yahoo.com are legitimate email sources trying to send me email for various email lists that I signed up for. I have been happily receiving email from them for some time but I noticed that at some point in the past it was becoming unreliable and recently they all started just failing. > > > NOTE: "<<<" seems to indicate messages sent by the external SMTP party and > > ">>>" seems to indicate responses by my side (the "inside") > > Yes, "<<<" refers to INCOMING traffic TO your machine, ">>>" refers to > OUTGOING traffic FROM your machine (think of the arrows as relative > to your system). > > > NOTE: Comcast is having DNS server problems, Can that be affecting > > this? and if so, why only for internet.com and yahoo groups bulk mail > > servers? > > No, these are not DNS issues (otherwise you'd get only the IP address > of the remote machines and not a reverse DNS resolution giving the host > names). The reverse resolution is correct, BTW, but the IPs are > probably spoofed. It seems the IP's are not spoofed, I did some lookups and correlated my tcpdump captures to those ip-domain-name pairs. The ips and domain names are correct as read in from the Internet IP traffic before entering the sendmail conversation and they match the info given in the sendmail conversation, and - even more disconcerting, the online archives of those email lists are providing live traffic info which matches these failed deliveries. I am dumbfounded. Any suggestions on what steps I can take to try to diagnose the problems? Also, is there any command line option for sendmail to report its version number (or any other mechanism?)? > > > ONEMORENOTE: > > I have turned off all my sorbs style email blocking while trying to > > figure this out. It seems to make no difference. FPIA > > As I said, these look like probes to see if YOU are an open relay. > Welcome to the world of mail administration. Remember, I get this > crap every day and we process over 1M legitimate messages per day (and > reject about 2M due to spam, viruses or probes such as you're seeing). > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- "The only system which is truly secure, is one which is switched off and unplugged, locked in a titanium lined safe, buried in a concrete bunker, surrounded by nerve gas and very highly paid armed guards. Even then, I wouldn't stake my life on it" - Gene Spafford (Good thing. the law of unintended consequences: A laptop, w/wireless NIC and wake on "date" set in the BIOS) Jargon file, abrgd.: The September that never ended. On the Internet, every September's freshmen influx got their first accounts and, not knowing how to post/email, always made a nuisance of themselves. Usually they were trained in a few months. But in September 1993, AOL users became able to post, overwhelming the capacity to acculturate them; to those who recall the period before, this triggered a decline in the quality of online communications. Syn. eternal September. http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From dana.work at navarrocollege.edu Fri Apr 15 20:52:31 2005 From: dana.work at navarrocollege.edu (Dana Holland) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:52:31 -0500 Subject: help - AS3.0 issues Message-ID: <4260298F.10709@navarrocollege.edu> We tried to upgrade our 8.0 system to AS 3.0 today. The upgrade appeared to work fine, but we're having a lot of issues. At one point I wasn't even sure that the upgrade really worked because /etc/redhat-release still reports 8.0 But uname-a returns # uname -a Linux sts 2.4.21-4.EL #1 Fri Oct 3 18:13:58 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I'm not sure how redhat-release gets updated. Does this sound like normal behavior? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 15 21:06:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:06:35 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <1113590214.4267.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113584635.3642.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0504151008577c2e81@mail.gmail.com> <1113585366.3832.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b050415102115ffff1c@mail.gmail.com> <4260045F.9070803@vitalstream.com> <1113590214.4267.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42602CDB.1090405@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 11:13 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>>On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 10:08 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I have just bought a new SATA HD and installed with the DOS software >>>>>>included with it. It was formatted as FAT32, I think I will use as a >>>>>>backup for this linux box. My intention is to boot into a Ghost CD and >>>>>>image drive to new Drive. >>>>>> >>>>>>So question is is it OK to be formatted to FAT32 to copy an ex3 image >>>>>>file to it. Or should I mount it in Linux, format it as a ext3 and then >>>>>>boot to Ghost and copy the image file to it? >>>>> >>>>>Actually it's pretty bad to be formatted FAT32 in this application. If >>>>>you copy Linux files per se to the drive then since FAT32 doesn't >>>>>support owner:group:world permissions and you'll lose that info and >>>>>have a terrible time doing a restore. >>>> >>>>This is good to know! >>>> >>>> >>>>>Much better to format it ext3 and take advantage of the journaling for >>>>>extra safety. >>>> >>>>Now I have to try to do some research to see how to mount and where? I >>>>have only one other drive, also SATA that RH is seeing as SCSI >>>> >>>> >>>>>My 2 cents, >>>> >>>>Ana a bargain at that rate! >>> >>> >>>Well, there we go again with that 'strange hardware' stuff we talked >>>about earlier. SATA drives are typically seen as SCSI devices so, >>>assuming you have NO other SCSI in the system you might try (as root) >>> >>>fdisk /dev/sda >>> >>>and see what happens. If you find the drive (look carefull at the size >>>it's reporting to make sure you think it's the right drive) then type >>>'q' to quit, for now. At that point you're ready to do some >>>partitioning and formating. If not found then there's two or more >>>reasons: >>> >>>1) Your kernel doesn't have SATA support. (There you go, building >>>kernels again!) ;-) >>> >>>2) Your kernel doesn't have SCSI support, or it must be loaded as a module. >>> >>>3) There is some other SCSI device at sda. Try fdisk /dev/sdb or sdc >>>etc. and jsut poke around a bit, but be very careful with fdisk. >>> >>>A more formal way to look for the drive would be to run dmesg in a >>>terminal and see if you can spot the system findign a SCSI drive >>>during boot. >> >>I think you missed that, Mark. His current drive (SATA) is being seen >>as SCSI (which, as you point out, makes perfect sense as SATA drives >>are treated as SCSI). >> >>Scott, SCSI, SATA, and damned near any storage media you can plug into >>USB or firewire are all treated by Linux as SCSI devices. Why? Because >>SCSI is the most flexible way of dealing with disparate devices. >> >>The first SCSI (or media treated as SCSI) by the kernel is assigned the >>device name "/dev/sda" (SCSI disk "a"). The second will be "/dev/sdb" >>(SCSI disk "b") and so on. The odds are that your current SATA drive >>(which contains your operating system) is /dev/sda. The second one will >>most likely be /dev/sdb. >> >>Mark's idea of using fdisk is logical. If you do "fdisk -l /dev/sda", >>you should see a summary of how big the drive is as well as the >>partition table on it. Similarly, you should be able to do an "fdisk -l >>/dev/sdb" and see a similar thing, but you'll probably only see one >>partition that's listed as "W95 FAT32". > > > [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sda > > Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 14 24321 195254010 8e Linux LVM > > So if I am reading this right, it is telling me the first disk has two > partitions on it. sda1, and sda2 Yup. That's correct. > [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb > > Disk /dev/sdb: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdb1 * 1 24792 199141708+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > [root at RHServer01 ~]# > > This is the one I just added and formatted as Fat32. Again, you've got it! > Two questions come to mind. > 1. How can I tell what shares/directories are on sda2? Like /home /usr > etc. Find the mountpoint and device name used for it (use "mount"...it'll probably be something like "/dev/vg00/lvol1"), then simply use the lvdisplay program on it: lvdisplay /dev/vg00/lvol1 > 2. sdb1 is showing as a boot device, this is the drive I intend on > making a backup drive. Do I need to do anything to mount it, or has it > automounted? Does it even matter given that you said earlier that Ghost > will write block for block from drive to drive. All that means is that the partition has the "bootable" _flag_ set. It isn't the boot disk. The boot disk is determined by your BIOS settings. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 15 21:16:40 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:16:40 -0700 Subject: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 11:33:35AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Jeff Kinz wrote: >> >>>Hi Guys, >>>I've just recently started seeing large numbers of emails being dropped, >>>but only from specific sources >>> >>>Here is what sendmail verbose mode is showing (two examples): >>> >>>26969 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr >>>2005 13:29:23 -0400 >>>26969 <<< EHLO nl-mail5.internet.com >>>26969 >>> 250-redline.kinz.org Hello nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185], pleased to meet you >>>26969 >>> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES >>>26969 >>> 250-8BITMIME >>>26969 >>> 250-SIZE >>>26969 >>> 250-DSN >>>26969 >>> 250-ONEX >>>26969 >>> 250-ETRN >>>26969 >>> 250-XUSR >>>26969 >>> 250-AUTH GSSAPI >>>26969 >>> 250 HELP >>>26969 <<< MAIL FROM: >>>26970 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>>26970 <<< [EOF] >>>26970 >>> 421 4.4.1 redline.kinz.org Lost input channel from nl-mail5.internet.com [64.62.164.185] >>>26968 >>> 220 redline.kinz.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:29:25 -0400 >>>26968 <<< HELO n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com >>>26968 >>> 250 redline.kinz.org Hello n19a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.94.237.48], pleased to meet you >>>26968 <<< MAIL FROM: >>>26971 >>> 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>>26971 <<< RSET >>>26971 >>> 250 2.0.0 Reset state >>>26968 <<< QUIT >>>26968 >>> 221 2.0.0 redline.kinz.org closing connection >>> >>> >>>There seem to be two failure modes, one is the "Lost input channel" and >>>the other is getting a SMTP "RSET" command from the MTA of the sending >>>side. >> >>The first one is a fairly common probe by machines looking for open >>relays--especially MS Exchange servers. I'd consider that an attack. >>The second one looks like a similar attack, but more along the lines of >>an attempted SMTP DOS attack. I'm willing to bet that the IP addresses >>are spoofed as well. > > > It seems I forgot some essential information, er, um, these two email > sources, internet.com and bulk.scd.yahoo.com are legitimate email > sources trying to send me email for various email lists that I signed up > for. I have been happily receiving email from them for some time but I > noticed that at some point in the past it was becoming unreliable and > recently they all started just failing. Then your ISP has a connectivity issue with those networks. Complain to your ISP. It'd help if you could include traceroutes from you to the questionable networks. >>>NOTE: "<<<" seems to indicate messages sent by the external SMTP party and >>>">>>" seems to indicate responses by my side (the "inside") >> >>Yes, "<<<" refers to INCOMING traffic TO your machine, ">>>" refers to >>OUTGOING traffic FROM your machine (think of the arrows as relative >>to your system). >> >> >>>NOTE: Comcast is having DNS server problems, Can that be affecting >>>this? and if so, why only for internet.com and yahoo groups bulk mail >>>servers? >> >>No, these are not DNS issues (otherwise you'd get only the IP address >>of the remote machines and not a reverse DNS resolution giving the host >>names). The reverse resolution is correct, BTW, but the IPs are >>probably spoofed. > > > It seems the IP's are not spoofed, I did some lookups and correlated my > tcpdump captures to those ip-domain-name pairs. The ips and domain > names are correct as read in from the Internet IP traffic before > entering the sendmail conversation and they match the info given in the > sendmail conversation, and - even more disconcerting, the online archives of > those email lists are providing live traffic info which matches these > failed deliveries. Ok. I've seen those kinds of things with spoofed IPs probing our network searching for open relay mail servers. I always assume the worst when it comes to mail. > I am dumbfounded. > > Any suggestions on what steps I can take to try to diagnose the > problems? Also, is there any command line option for sendmail to report > its version number (or any other mechanism?)? Run traceroutes to the mailservers in question and include those in your discussions with your ISP. They may have a peering issue. For example, one of our upstream providers in Amsterdam decided to stop peering with Cogent. Their network crashed because their other peers couldn't handle the traffic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 15 21:20:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:20:15 -0700 Subject: help - AS3.0 issues In-Reply-To: <4260298F.10709@navarrocollege.edu> References: <4260298F.10709@navarrocollege.edu> Message-ID: <4260300F.1060204@vitalstream.com> Dana Holland wrote: > We tried to upgrade our 8.0 system to AS 3.0 today. The upgrade > appeared to work fine, but we're having a lot of issues. At one point I > wasn't even sure that the upgrade really worked because > /etc/redhat-release still reports 8.0 But uname-a returns > # uname -a > Linux sts 2.4.21-4.EL #1 Fri Oct 3 18:13:58 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 > GNU/Linux > > I'm not sure how redhat-release gets updated. Does this sound like > normal behavior? Upgrades are problematical at best. It is entirely possible that redhat-release does not get modified during an upgrade. Check /etc/issue and see if it was updated (/etc/issue is displayed as part of the login prompt on text consoles). The kernel version indicates that, at least, the kernel was updated ("-EL" indicates "Enterprise Linux"). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When all else fails, try reading the instructions. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 22:57:12 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:57:12 -0600 Subject: New drive Message-ID: <1113605832.3710.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> > >>>Now you format it with ext3 > > >>>mke2fs -j -L newbackup /dev/sdb1 > > >>>BE VERY careful here not to type /dev/sda1 or you'll blow away your > >>>existing drive and have to rebuild your system. > > >>>mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/newbackup > > >>>And you're up and running. We can handle putting the mount into > >>>/etc/fstab later if you want. > Using Marks method I did the mke2fs -j -L BackupDrive /dev/sdb1 However after a re-boot it still shows as a FAT32 file system. So what went wrong? The system booted fine and seems to be working right. It mounts and after a chmod 777 I can write to it [root at RHServer01 ~]# fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 203.9 GB, 203928109056 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 24792 199141708+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) Output from df [root at RHServer01 ~]# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 191135396 3131300 178294940 2% / /dev/sda1 101086 18709 77158 20% /boot none 252528 0 252528 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda 50730 50730 0 100% /media/cdrecorder /dev/sdb1 196015808 94284 185964440 1% /mnt/BackupDrive [scott at RHServer01 ~]$ Apologies if this shows up twice on the board. I hit reply before and don't see the post after a few hours. Mark if it went directly to your email I am truly sorry. It was not intentional, and I know not to send email directly to you. From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 23:11:08 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:11:08 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <1113605832.3710.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113605832.3710.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05041516113f9daae0@mail.gmail.com> On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > Apologies if this shows up twice on the board. I hit reply before and > don't see the post after a few hours. Mark if it went directly to your > email I am truly sorry. It was not intentional, and I know not to send > email directly to you. > Replied a few minutes ago. Sorry for the delay. - Mark From smertens at mho.com Fri Apr 15 23:16:49 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:16:49 -0600 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05041516113f9daae0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1113605832.3710.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b05041516113f9daae0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1113607009.3751.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> > > > Replied a few minutes ago. Sorry for the delay. > - Mark Ok, cool it is working and mounted now. Now I need to proceed to editing the fstab file I guess to make sure it mounts at boot time. From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Apr 15 23:35:30 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:35:30 -0700 Subject: New drive In-Reply-To: <1113607009.3751.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1113605832.3710.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b05041516113f9daae0@mail.gmail.com> <1113607009.3751.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050415163555e2fc64@mail.gmail.com> On 4/15/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > > > > > > Replied a few minutes ago. Sorry for the delay. > > - Mark > > Ok, cool it is working and mounted now. Now I need to proceed to > editing the fstab file I guess to make sure it mounts at boot time. > > Is it mounting as ext3? As for fstab since you used a label you can mount with a label if you want, or you can just mount with /dev/sdb1. With a label is in this format: LABEL=audio1 /home/mark/Audio/audio1 ext3 rw,noauto,user 0 0 This is a 1394 drive. You probably want auto or defaults or some other set of options. Cheers, Mark From jkinz at kinz.org Sat Apr 16 00:39:25 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:39:25 -0400 Subject: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com>; from rstevens@vitalstream.com on Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:16:40PM -0700 References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:16:40PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Jeff Kinz wrote: > > It seems I forgot some essential information, er, um, these two email > > sources, internet.com and bulk.scd.yahoo.com are legitimate email > > sources trying to send me email for various email lists that I signed up > > for. I have been happily receiving email from them for some time but I > > noticed that at some point in the past it was becoming unreliable and > > recently they all started just failing. > > Then your ISP has a connectivity issue with those networks. Complain > to your ISP. It'd help if you could include traceroutes from you to > the questionable networks. My ISP ix Comcast ~.>>>~~~ They aro a huce ISP.xxxxzzzz I'n sure they donut xave~ any pro blems with hair nets works. > > Any suggestions on what steps I can take to try to diagnose the > > problems? Also, is there any command line option for sendmail to report > > its version number (or any other mechanism?)? > > Run traceroutes to the mailservers in question and include those in your > discussions with your ISP. They may have a peering issue. For example, > one of our upstream providers in Amsterdam decided to stop peering with > Cogent. Their network crashed because their other peers couldn't handle > the traffic. According to some of the traffic on NANOG there may be more of this happing and more to come as well. joy. Thanks Rick. -- http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From drumilnarayan at yahoo.com Sat Apr 16 08:32:02 2005 From: drumilnarayan at yahoo.com (drumil narayan) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:32:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: File sharing with secure access In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050416083202.33099.qmail@web8304.mail.in.yahoo.com> Hello, We are using RHAL 3.0. samba we are using for file sharing acorss network. how do we give read write permission to same folder with one user and how do we give only read permission to same folder to another user. kindly note that the sharing folder configured using samba will be mapped as logical drive on windows client. thanx in advance..drumil > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 15:48:48 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:48:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: File Size Message-ID: I've ripped all my CD's to a hard drive (about 8G of files) and have discovered that not all of them ripped very well. I'm now in the process of trying to sort out and either re-rip or delete from my database (I use Grip and Digital DJ - fantastic combination). I need a command - one line would be great - that would write to a file all my files that are less than 130 bites in size. The output would need the full path and file name and file size. I'm thinking grep and ls and who knows what (in a prior life I could do this in DOS but I no longer have those capibilities or even the system to do it on). Anyway I'd love to learn more about UNIX commands. Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From jkinz at kinz.org Sat Apr 16 16:29:33 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:29:33 -0400 Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: ; from brad.mugleston@comcast.net on Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 09:48:48AM -0600 References: Message-ID: <20050416122933.F25746@redline.comcast.net> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 09:48:48AM -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I've ripped all my CD's to a hard drive (about 8G of files) and > have discovered that not all of them ripped very well. I'm now > in the process of trying to sort out and either re-rip or delete > from my database (I use Grip and Digital DJ - fantastic > combination). > > I need a command - one line would be great - that would write to > a file all my files that are less than 130 bites in size. The > output would need the full path and file name and file size. I'm > thinking grep and ls and who knows what (in a prior life I could Hi Brad, the command you want is "find" for example print all the files with a "goo" in their name for the entire file tree starting at "/var" : find /var -name '*goo*' -print (Note: -print is actually redundant here.) Do a man find and look for special file attribute matching stuff to match on size. I don't know the option to match on size off the top of my head. -- http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From jkinz at kinz.org Sat Apr 16 16:32:55 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:32:55 -0400 Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: <20050416122933.F25746@redline.comcast.net>; from jkinz@kinz.org on Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:29:33PM -0400 References: <20050416122933.F25746@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050416123255.G25746@redline.comcast.net> On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:29:33PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 09:48:48AM -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > I've ripped all my CD's to a hard drive (about 8G of files) and > > have discovered that not all of them ripped very well. I'm now > > in the process of trying to sort out and either re-rip or delete > > from my database (I use Grip and Digital DJ - fantastic > > combination). > > > > I need a command - one line would be great - that would write to > > a file all my files that are less than 130 bites in size. The > > output would need the full path and file name and file size. I'm > > thinking grep and ls and who knows what (in a prior life I could > > Hi Brad, the command you want is "find" > > for example print all the files with a "goo" in their name > for the entire file tree starting at "/var" : > > find /var -name '*goo*' -print > > (Note: -print is actually redundant here.) > > > Do a man find and look for special file attribute matching stuff to > match on size. I don't know the option to match on size off the top of > my head. wup- here it is: -size n[bckw] File uses n units of space. The units are 512-byte blocks by default or if `b' follows n, bytes if `c' follows n, kilobytes if `k' follows n, or 2-byte words if `w' follows n. The size does not count indirect blocks, but it does count blocks in sparse files that are not actually allocated. EXAMPLE: find . -size -130c I know its not as much fun as ls grep and awk, but what the heck. -- http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From gerrynix at yahoo.com Sat Apr 16 16:47:16 2005 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050416164716.20109.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:29:33PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 09:48:48AM -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > I've ripped all my CD's to a hard drive (about 8G of files) and > > > have discovered that not all of them ripped very well. I'm now > > > in the process of trying to sort out and either re-rip or delete > > > from my database (I use Grip and Digital DJ - fantastic > > > combination). > > > > > > I need a command - one line would be great - that would write to > > > a file all my files that are less than 130 bites in size. The > > > output would need the full path and file name and file size. I'm > > > thinking grep and ls and who knows what (in a prior life I could > > > > Hi Brad, the command you want is "find" > > > > for example print all the files with a "goo" in their name > > for the entire file tree starting at "/var" : > > > > find /var -name '*goo*' -print > > > > (Note: -print is actually redundant here.) > > > > > > Do a man find and look for special file attribute matching stuff to > > match on size. I don't know the option to match on size off the top of > > my head. > > wup- here it is: > -size n[bckw] > File uses n units of space. The units are 512-byte blocks > by default or if `b' follows n, bytes if `c' follows n, kilobytes if `k' > follows n, or 2-byte words if `w' follows n. The size does not count > indirect blocks, but it does count blocks in sparse files that are not > actually allocated. > > EXAMPLE: find . -size -130c > > > > I know its not as much fun as ls grep and awk, but what the heck. Yes. And to add file sizes, inode nums and other information, add this (also saves the output to a file named "save_it": find . -size -130c -ls > save_it -- Nix > > -- > http://kinz.org > http://www.fedoranews.org > Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Apr 16 16:53:15 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:53:15 -0700 Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: <20050416164716.20109.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050416164716.20109.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050416095378657fe@mail.gmail.com> > > And to add file sizes, inode nums and other information, add this > (also saves the output to a file named "save_it": > > find . -size -130c -ls > save_it > -- But if you want to play with grep then maybe add it in to ensure you're picking up just what you're looking for: find . -size -130c -ls | grep mp3 - Mark From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sat Apr 16 17:28:05 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:28:05 -0600 (MDT) Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050416095378657fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050416164716.20109.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> <5bdc1c8b050416095378657fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeff Nix and Mark Thanks I've played with them ALL and they work as advertised, now to get to work and rebuild my missing music. If your interested - using GRIP to rip and encode your music also builds a database of all your music which is read by Digital DJ. Running Digital DJ lets you pick what you want to hear, either by group or type (Jazz) then will play back. With what I have loaded right now I've got over 24 hours of non-stop music with no repeats. Thanks for the help. Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > And to add file sizes, inode nums and other information, add this > > (also saves the output to a file named "save_it": > > > > find . -size -130c -ls > save_it > > -- > > But if you want to play with grep then maybe add it in to ensure > you're picking up just what you're looking for: > > find . -size -130c -ls | grep mp3 > > - Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Apr 16 18:04:00 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:04:00 -0700 Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: References: <20050416164716.20109.qmail@web51910.mail.yahoo.com> <5bdc1c8b050416095378657fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05041611043b8cdc5@mail.gmail.com> Brad, I'll have to check out Digital DJ. I'm always interested in music apps. We currently have to copies of our nearly 50GB ogg library: /dev/sdb1 57685532 46269680 8485600 85% /home/mark/music This copy is on a local 1394 drive. I got tired of wireless network dropouts interferring with my listening. The library is about 7500 songs from over 600 CDs. It was quite a job to rip. Took my wife and I working together over a month to do it. I'm not vey happy with the ripper we used. It was jsut the Sound Juicer app that comes as part of Gnome. The problem we've had is not short files as you are seeing but rather bad rips or conversion to ogg causing noise, glitches, skips, etc. Or strategy has just been to go back and rerip things when we find a bad one. I don't know what else to do. For listening we're really happy with a fairly unknown app created by one of the leading Linux audio developers called Aqualung. It's young yet but is very focused on getting the audio part right. To my ears it shows. He does things like being able to link together multiple audio files so that playing a CD with no breaks on the CD comes out as no breaks when listening here. (Think 'Dark Side of the Moon'.) Anyway, glad it's working for you. Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux audio. Come join us on the pro audio side one fo these days. ;-) Cheers, Mark On 4/16/05, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Jeff Nix and Mark > > Thanks I've played with them ALL and they work as advertised, now > to get to work and rebuild my missing music. > > If your interested - using GRIP to rip and encode your music also > builds a database of all your music which is read by Digital DJ. > Running Digital DJ lets you pick what you want to hear, either by > group or type (Jazz) then will play back. With what I have loaded > right now I've got over 24 hours of non-stop music with no > repeats. > > Thanks for the help. > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > And to add file sizes, inode nums and other information, add this > > > (also saves the output to a file named "save_it": > > > > > > find . -size -130c -ls > save_it > > > -- > > > > But if you want to play with grep then maybe add it in to ensure > > you're picking up just what you're looking for: > > > > find . -size -130c -ls | grep mp3 > > > > - Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > From jaaphoetmer at yahoo.com Sat Apr 16 21:42:13 2005 From: jaaphoetmer at yahoo.com (Jaap Hoetmer) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:42:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: RHEL4 and Cisco Aironet 350 Message-ID: <20050416214213.43863.qmail@web52009.mail.yahoo.com> I am trying to get my Cisco Aironet 350 series wireless PCMCIA card to work on RHEL4 AS, but it fails to connect to my access point; under WinXP this works fine. The adapter was detected correctly, an installed as eth1 accordingly. The ifcfg-eth1 file says: # Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt # for the documentation of these parameters. IPV6INIT=no ONBOOT=no USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes GATEWAY= TYPE=Wireless DEVICE=eth1 HWADDR=00:0f:f8:4d:ae:70 BOOTPROTO=dhcp NETMASK= DHCP_HOSTNAME= IPADDR= DOMAIN= ESSID=retuelle CHANNEL=6 MODE=Managed RATE=11Mb/s When trying to enable the adapter, it says it tries to retrieve IP address information, but times out eventually, saying it failed. dmesg tells me: airo: Probing for PCI adapters airo: Finished probing for PCI adapters airo: cmd= 111 airo: status= 7f11 airo: Rsp0= 2 airo: Rsp1= 0 airo: Rsp2= 0 airo: Doing fast bap_reads divert: allocating divert_blk for eth1 divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet device wifi0 airo: MAC enabled eth1 0:f:f8:4d:ae:70 eth1: index 0x05: Vcc 5.0, Vpp 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f Syslog tells me: Apr 16 23:34:55 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 Apr 16 23:34:56 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801 Apr 16 23:34:57 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 Apr 16 23:35:02 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 Apr 16 23:35:11 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 Apr 16 23:35:26 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 Apr 16 23:35:34 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 Apr 16 23:35:44 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 Apr 16 23:35:55 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 Apr 16 23:35:58 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received. Can anyone confirm this adapter should work in RHEL4, and provide advice on what to do in order to get it to work? Many thanks, Jaap Hoetmer Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From jomytabraham1 at rediffmail.com Sun Apr 17 13:22:12 2005 From: jomytabraham1 at rediffmail.com (jomy abraham) Date: 17 Apr 2005 13:22:12 -0000 Subject: RHEL4 and Cisco Aironet 350 Message-ID: <20050417132212.2066.qmail@webmail46.rediffmail.com> hi i am having cisco aironet 350 series working fine on rhel4 es. i just created ifcfg-eth1 in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/, with the contents as DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=no ZEROCONF=no IPV6INIT=no MODE="managed" ESSID="linksys" KEY3=xxxxxxxxxx TYPE=Ethernet and giving ifup eth1 will associate with my configured wireless device. hope this helps u bye On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 Jaap Hoetmer wrote : >I am trying to get my Cisco Aironet 350 series >wireless PCMCIA card to work on RHEL4 AS, but it fails >to connect to my access point; under WinXP this works >fine. > >The adapter was detected correctly, an installed as >eth1 accordingly. The ifcfg-eth1 file says: ># Please read >/usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt ># for the documentation of these parameters. >IPV6INIT=no >ONBOOT=no >USERCTL=no >PEERDNS=yes >GATEWAY= >TYPE=Wireless >DEVICE=eth1 >HWADDR=00:0f:f8:4d:ae:70 >BOOTPROTO=dhcp >NETMASK= >DHCP_HOSTNAME= >IPADDR= >DOMAIN= >ESSID=retuelle >CHANNEL=6 >MODE=Managed >RATE=11Mb/s > >When trying to enable the adapter, it says it tries to >retrieve IP address information, but times out >eventually, saying it failed. > >dmesg tells me: > >airo: Probing for PCI adapters >airo: Finished probing for PCI adapters >airo: cmd= 111 >airo: status= 7f11 >airo: Rsp0= 2 >airo: Rsp1= 0 >airo: Rsp2= 0 >airo: Doing fast bap_reads >divert: allocating divert_blk for eth1 >divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet >device wifi0 >airo: MAC enabled eth1 0:f:f8:4d:ae:70 >eth1: index 0x05: Vcc 5.0, Vpp 5.0, irq 3, io >0x0100-0x013f > >Syslog tells me: > >Apr 16 23:34:55 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown >hardware address type 801 >Apr 16 23:34:56 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown >hardware address type 801 >Apr 16 23:34:57 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on >eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 >Apr 16 23:35:02 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on >eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 >Apr 16 23:35:11 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on >eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 >Apr 16 23:35:26 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on >eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 >Apr 16 23:35:34 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on >eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 >Apr 16 23:35:44 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on >eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 >Apr 16 23:35:55 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on >eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 >Apr 16 23:35:58 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS >received. > > >Can anyone confirm this adapter should work in RHEL4, >and provide advice on what to do in order to get it to >work? > >Many thanks, >Jaap Hoetmer > > >Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The ifcfg-eth1 file says: > # Please read > /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt > # for the documentation of these parameters. > IPV6INIT=no > ONBOOT=no > USERCTL=no > PEERDNS=yes > GATEWAY= > TYPE=Wireless > DEVICE=eth1 > HWADDR=00:0f:f8:4d:ae:70 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > NETMASK= > DHCP_HOSTNAME= > IPADDR= > DOMAIN= > ESSID=retuelle > CHANNEL=6 > MODE=Managed > RATE=11Mb/s > > When trying to enable the adapter, it says it tries to > retrieve IP address information, but times out > eventually, saying it failed. > > dmesg tells me: > > airo: Probing for PCI adapters > airo: Finished probing for PCI adapters > airo: cmd= 111 > airo: status= 7f11 > airo: Rsp0= 2 > airo: Rsp1= 0 > airo: Rsp2= 0 > airo: Doing fast bap_reads > divert: allocating divert_blk for eth1 > divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet > device wifi0 > airo: MAC enabled eth1 0:f:f8:4d:ae:70 > eth1: index 0x05: Vcc 5.0, Vpp 5.0, irq 3, io > 0x0100-0x013f > > Syslog tells me: > > Apr 16 23:34:55 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown > hardware address type 801 > Apr 16 23:34:56 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown > hardware address type 801 > Apr 16 23:34:57 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 > Apr 16 23:35:02 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 > Apr 16 23:35:11 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 > Apr 16 23:35:26 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 > Apr 16 23:35:34 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 > Apr 16 23:35:44 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 > Apr 16 23:35:55 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 > Apr 16 23:35:58 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS > received. > > > Can anyone confirm this adapter should work in RHEL4, > and provide advice on what to do in order to get it to > work? After getting the power on your adapter, Try few things like : if not iwconfig, then /sbin/iwconifg : being a su. root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 key on root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 key off root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 mode managed root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 rate auto I am not sure, which of these will work for you, and whether you have any key to set or not. But in many occasions, these works for me, when I couldn't get my AP. I am using FC2. Good luck ---Tapas > > Many thanks, > Jaap Hoetmer > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------- Tapas Ranjan Sarangi Institute of Paricle and Nuclear Studies, KEK JAPAN ----------------------------------- From yazan at ccs.com.jo Mon Apr 18 07:19:00 2005 From: yazan at ccs.com.jo (Yazan Al-Sheyyab) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:19:00 +0200 Subject: Dl380 G4 SCSI HARDDISKS problem Message-ID: <002001c543e6$e4ba97a0$69050364@yazanz> hello , Thanks for every knowledge you can give me , i am new in this list , and i have a probelm when i install redhat enterprise linux AS v3 on hp proliant DL 380 G4 when i reach the disk druid the installer cannot see the SCSI HDs , What can i do now and i want to try to install RedHat E LINUX ES V4 inorder to solve this problem but my question is : Does RHELES V4 Solve my problem or not ? 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Regards ------------------------------------------------- Yazan _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From jaaphoetmer at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 08:22:06 2005 From: jaaphoetmer at yahoo.com (Jaap Hoetmer) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:22:06 +0100 (BST) Subject: RHEL4 and Cisco Aironet 350 In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050418082206.60170.qmail@web52006.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for the reactions. I have tried many hours to get it to work, even downgrading the Aironet's firmware, but nothing worked. In the end I decided to install FC3, to see if that would work. And it did! First time after installation it came up properly, I configured the ESSID, and it connected successfully. Conclusion? I think something's not right in RHEL 4, but I am unable to pinpoint what exactly. Regards, Jaap Hoetmer --- Tapas Ranjan wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Jaap Hoetmer wrote: > > > I am trying to get my Cisco Aironet 350 series > > wireless PCMCIA card to work on RHEL4 AS, but it > fails > > to connect to my access point; under WinXP this > works > > fine. > > > > The adapter was detected correctly, an installed > as > > eth1 accordingly. The ifcfg-eth1 file says: > > # Please read > > /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt > > # for the documentation of these parameters. > > IPV6INIT=no > > ONBOOT=no > > USERCTL=no > > PEERDNS=yes > > GATEWAY= > > TYPE=Wireless > > DEVICE=eth1 > > HWADDR=00:0f:f8:4d:ae:70 > > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > > NETMASK= > > DHCP_HOSTNAME= > > IPADDR= > > DOMAIN= > > ESSID=retuelle > > CHANNEL=6 > > MODE=Managed > > RATE=11Mb/s > > > > When trying to enable the adapter, it says it > tries to > > retrieve IP address information, but times out > > eventually, saying it failed. > > > > dmesg tells me: > > > > airo: Probing for PCI adapters > > airo: Finished probing for PCI adapters > > airo: cmd= 111 > > airo: status= 7f11 > > airo: Rsp0= 2 > > airo: Rsp1= 0 > > airo: Rsp2= 0 > > airo: Doing fast bap_reads > > divert: allocating divert_blk for eth1 > > divert: not allocating divert_blk for non-ethernet > > device wifi0 > > airo: MAC enabled eth1 0:f:f8:4d:ae:70 > > eth1: index 0x05: Vcc 5.0, Vpp 5.0, irq 3, io > > 0x0100-0x013f > > > > Syslog tells me: > > > > Apr 16 23:34:55 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown > > hardware address type 801 > > Apr 16 23:34:56 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown > > hardware address type 801 > > Apr 16 23:34:57 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER > on > > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 > > Apr 16 23:35:02 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER > on > > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 > > Apr 16 23:35:11 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER > on > > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 > > Apr 16 23:35:26 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER > on > > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 > > Apr 16 23:35:34 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER > on > > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10 > > Apr 16 23:35:44 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER > on > > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11 > > Apr 16 23:35:55 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER > on > > eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 > > Apr 16 23:35:58 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS > > received. > > > > > > Can anyone confirm this adapter should work in > RHEL4, > > and provide advice on what to do in order to get > it to > > work? > > After getting the power on your adapter, > Try few things like : if not iwconfig, then > /sbin/iwconifg : being a su. > > root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 key on > root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 key off > root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 mode managed > root at bla ~] iwconfig eth1 rate auto > > I am not sure, which of these will work for you, > and whether you > have any key to set or not. But in many occasions, > these works for me, > when I couldn't get my AP. I am using FC2. > > Good luck > ---Tapas > > > > > > > Many thanks, > > Jaap Hoetmer > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > -- > ---------------------------------- > Tapas Ranjan Sarangi > Institute of Paricle and Nuclear Studies, KEK > JAPAN > ----------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From sarangi at bpost.kek.jp Mon Apr 18 08:29:50 2005 From: sarangi at bpost.kek.jp (Tapas Ranjan) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:29:50 +0900 (JST) Subject: acpi and rh9-2.4.20 version Message-ID: Hi : I have a 2.4.20-31 RH9 version system, which doesn't support "acpi". As per my search , it's a bug in most 2.4 version kernels. Please suggest, which version of 2.4 kernel supports "acpi" and where to get that ? It will be better if someone can suggest how to install or upgrade to new kernel. I mean the procedures and commands. Is there any "url" which can give me these informations ? Cheers ---Tapas From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 18 16:36:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:36:35 -0700 Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4263E213.9070806@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I've ripped all my CD's to a hard drive (about 8G of files) and > have discovered that not all of them ripped very well. I'm now > in the process of trying to sort out and either re-rip or delete > from my database (I use Grip and Digital DJ - fantastic > combination). > > I need a command - one line would be great - that would write to > a file all my files that are less than 130 bites in size. The > output would need the full path and file name and file size. I'm > thinking grep and ls and who knows what (in a prior life I could > do this in DOS but I no longer have those capibilities or even > the system to do it on). Anyway I'd love to learn more about > UNIX commands. Try: find /path/to/dir -size -131 -print >/path/to/output/file ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 18 16:37:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:37:37 -0700 Subject: File Size In-Reply-To: <4263E213.9070806@vitalstream.com> References: <4263E213.9070806@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4263E251.5090909@vitalstream.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > >> I've ripped all my CD's to a hard drive (about 8G of files) and >> have discovered that not all of them ripped very well. I'm now >> in the process of trying to sort out and either re-rip or delete >> from my database (I use Grip and Digital DJ - fantastic >> combination). >> >> I need a command - one line would be great - that would write to >> a file all my files that are less than 130 bites in size. The >> output would need the full path and file name and file size. I'm >> thinking grep and ls and who knows what (in a prior life I could >> do this in DOS but I no longer have those capibilities or even >> the system to do it on). Anyway I'd love to learn more about >> UNIX commands. > > > Try: > > find /path/to/dir -size -131 -print >/path/to/output/file ARRGH! find /path/to/dir -size -131c -print >/path/to/output/file (forgot the "c") ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon Apr 18 18:11:16 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:11:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Outbound formail/procmail Message-ID: <33657.207.173.117.242.1113847876.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Is there a way to filter outbound email? Here's one possible scenario: Young son, too young to have a girl friend. Mom wants me to see if he's emailing her or vice-versa. Procmail filter on her: :0: * ^From:.*hername at herhost.com ! MOM at ourhost.com Now then, Mom has asked to get some type of filter on the outbound so if he emails her, Mom knows what's been sent and it doesn't go out. Draconian? Yes it is. You don't know my wife. She believes in parental rights and that minor children have none. I married her, so I have to believe that way, too. so, I try to do what "she who must be obeyed" says to do. Karl From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 18 18:36:54 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:36:54 -0700 Subject: Outbound formail/procmail In-Reply-To: <33657.207.173.117.242.1113847876.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <33657.207.173.117.242.1113847876.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <4263FE46.5030608@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > Is there a way to filter outbound email? Here's one possible scenario: > > Young son, too young to have a girl friend. Mom wants me to see if he's > emailing her or vice-versa. Procmail filter on her: > > :0: > * ^From:.*hername at herhost.com > ! MOM at ourhost.com > > Now then, Mom has asked to get some type of filter on the outbound so if > he emails her, Mom knows what's been sent and it doesn't go out. > > Draconian? Yes it is. You don't know my wife. She believes in parental > rights and that minor children have none. I married her, so I have to > believe that way, too. so, I try to do what "she who must be obeyed" says > to do. You can edit /etc/mail/access and add something like: To:hername at herhost.com REJECT or To:hername at herhost.com DISCARD Then stop and restart mail: "service sendmail restart". The first would reject the message with an error code, the second would silently discard the message. I don't know of an easy way for your wife to get a copy of the message unless you modify the submit.cf's "check_rcpt" ruleset to redirect the mail to your wife. As far as your wife's watching your son's mail, I can only say: Bravo! Hear, hear! I certainly don't consider her watchdogging draconian. More parents should take this kind of interest. Far too many parents use inadequate supervision with their children and we end up with class A wackos like Michael Jackson, Paris Hilton, Jeffrey Dahmer and those kids who shoot up their schools, plant bombs or hit other kids in the head with baseball bats because they were teased about losing a game. Sheesh! There are just too many perverts and evildoers on the net to allow any minor to have free access of any kind (mail, chat rooms, web browsing, you name it). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From micros50 at computer.net Tue Apr 19 02:47:17 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:47:17 -0400 Subject: Outbound formail/procmail In-Reply-To: <33657.207.173.117.242.1113847876.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <33657.207.173.117.242.1113847876.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <1113878837.6695.17.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 14:11, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > Draconian? Yes it is. You don't know my wife. She believes in parental > rights and that minor children have none. I married her, so I have to > believe that way, too. so, I try to do what "she who must be obeyed" says > to do. > > Karl > > _______________________________________________ Your actions need no justifications. This list is about the technical aspects of what you want to do and how to get it done, Far as kids go they'll eventually bypass the whole shebang by getting a web based email account that they can access from anywhere. You name it kids figure a way around it. mylar From drumilnarayan at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 08:00:53 2005 From: drumilnarayan at yahoo.com (drumil narayan) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:00:53 +0100 (BST) Subject: Xmanager2 configuration In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050419080053.34204.qmail@web8301.mail.in.yahoo.com> hello, Which are the services they must be running so that the software xmanager2 can open up gui desktop of linux from windows client. please help..drumil ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony From akelly at transparency.org Tue Apr 19 09:23:44 2005 From: akelly at transparency.org (Andrew Kelly) Date: 19 Apr 2005 11:23:44 +0200 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video In-Reply-To: <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> References: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> Hi Rick, Don't know if you got my earlier response to this mail, I haven't heard back from you. On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 19:20, Rick Stevens wrote: > Andrew Kelly wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > anybody out there have any experience with serving streaming video? > > Help? Pointers? Links to good reading? > > You'll have to be a bit more specific. There are at least four popular > formats: QuickTime, Real, Windows Media and Macromedia FLASH. What > are you trying to do. > > My company is one of the largest streaming companies on the Internet > (http://www.vitalstream.com) and I have LOTS of experience in this > arena, but I need to know what you are trying to accomplish. It's been a bit of a challenge to get "my people" to tell me what exactly it is that they want to accomplish. As it so often turns out, they don't yet rightly know and are being a bit premature with everything. What I know: Our PR folk have a CD with a 26 minute video (mpg, 600+ Mb) documentary that they would like to make available from our web site. To this end they have had it compressed, and it comes to me in two flavors: .wmv and .mp4, both of which land around 35 Mb. Initially it will only be about this one bit, but I would assume that within a few months there will be an additional clip or two joining it. I'm certain there will be no talk of live broadcasts or anything of that nature for at least 2 years, but I'm pretty confident that once the ice is broken, they'll want to begin to take advantage of the medium. So, the nutshell is this: My employer is a non-profit NGO on a painfully limited budget. They need the biggest bang for their buck in everything they do. The goal is the most cost-effective way to begin to make video material available to the widest possible public (the site has a very strong 3rd world interest). Whether that be an open source solution on one of my hosts, or contracting to a third party interest like your organization or anything in between, is virtually unimportant at this point. The goal is biggest bang. :-) Hey, perhaps you'd like to broker a service donation to the "leading global non-governmental organisation devoted to combating corruption"! I'd really appreciate any direction or help you could offer, Rick, and thank you greatly in advance. (Oh, I've also just notice that your company is looking to fill a few positions.... What's the cost of living down there?) Andy -- Andrew Kelly Online Products Developer Transparency International e.V. Alt Moabit 96 10559 Berlin, Germany Tel: +4930 3530 5701 Fax: +4930 3530 5702 mailto:devel at corisweb.org http://www.transparency.org http://www.corisweb.org From akelly at transparency.org Tue Apr 19 09:29:36 2005 From: akelly at transparency.org (Andrew Kelly) Date: 19 Apr 2005 11:29:36 +0200 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video In-Reply-To: <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> References: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> Message-ID: <1113902975.4300.160.camel@hermes.at.home> Well, that was rather embarrassing, wunnit? .... i swear i changed that to: line... sheesh. On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 11:23, Andrew Kelly wrote: > Hi Rick, From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Tue Apr 19 11:13:32 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:43:32 +0530 Subject: shell shripts? Message-ID: <004f01c544d0$d2a45ac0$260210ac@tivimnet> tell me some good stuff to learn shell scripting. i do not have any prior programming experience. thanks n rgds ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Tue Apr 19 11:16:48 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:46:48 +0530 Subject: shell Message-ID: <006801c544d1$479492a0$260210ac@tivimnet> tell me some good stuff to learn shell scripting. i do not have any prior programming experience. thanks n rgds ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Apr 19 15:40:34 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:40:34 -0500 Subject: shell shripts? In-Reply-To: <004f01c544d0$d2a45ac0$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <004f01c544d0$d2a45ac0$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <20050419154034.GA24612@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 04:43:32PM +0530, ajay wrote: > tell me some good stuff to learn shell scripting. > > i do not have any prior programming experience. > > thanks n rgds > > ajay http://www.bestwebbuys.com/books/search.jsp?isrc=b-home-search&N=0&Ntt=unix+shell+programming&x=29&y=11&Ntk=P_Title Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best things in life aren't things. From gerrynix at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 15:56:20 2005 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: shell shripts? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050419155621.89178.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> --- ajay wrote: > tell me some good stuff to learn shell scripting. > > i do not have any prior programming experience. > > thanks n rgds > > ajay Do an Internet search on "bash shell tutorual" You will find the following 4 and many more. Most of these are free and very helpful. www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html www.freeos.com/guides/lsst steve-parker.org/sh/sh.shtml linux.org.mt/article/terminal -- Nix > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 19 17:32:23 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:32:23 -0700 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video In-Reply-To: <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> References: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> Message-ID: <426540A7.3080009@vitalstream.com> Andrew Kelly wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Don't know if you got my earlier response to this mail, I haven't heard > back from you. > > On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 19:20, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Andrew Kelly wrote: >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>anybody out there have any experience with serving streaming video? >>>Help? Pointers? Links to good reading? >> >>You'll have to be a bit more specific. There are at least four popular >>formats: QuickTime, Real, Windows Media and Macromedia FLASH. What >>are you trying to do. >> >>My company is one of the largest streaming companies on the Internet >>(http://www.vitalstream.com) and I have LOTS of experience in this >>arena, but I need to know what you are trying to accomplish. > > > It's been a bit of a challenge to get "my people" to tell me what > exactly it is that they want to accomplish. As it so often turns out, > they don't yet rightly know and are being a bit premature with everything. > > What I know: > Our PR folk have a CD with a 26 minute video (mpg, 600+ Mb) documentary that > they would like to make available from our web site. To this end they have > had it compressed, and it comes to me in two flavors: .wmv and .mp4, both > of which land around 35 Mb. Well, you need to figure out which form of streaming you want to do, then you have to run the file through the appropriate encoder and set up a server. The cheapest way is via a progressive download. This requires nothing more than a webserver to "stream" the data. What happens is that you set up a webserver that launches a PD player on the client computer. The client then downloads part of the file and plays it. While it plays, it continues the download and plays each bit as it comes in. It essentially uses the web browser as a buffering agent for the player. True streaming would require you to encode the file and put it up via the streaming server. Most of the servers are commercial, however, and can cost a pretty penny. Also, most run on Windows (gaack!). Quicktime, Real and Macromedia do have Linux versions of their server code, but it's still commercial. There are a few open-source Linux-based servers, the most common one is VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/). Have a look at that. In reality, it's probably better to sign up with a streaming company such as ourselves (this is NOT a plug). The pros have contacts with companies that will do the encoding for you and have paid all of the streaming server license fees. They typically also have far more robust networks and bandwidth. > Initially it will only be about this one bit, but I would assume that within > a few months there will be an additional clip or two joining it. I'm certain there > will be no talk of live broadcasts or anything of that nature for > at least 2 years, but I'm pretty confident that once the ice is broken, > they'll want to begin to take advantage of the medium. We handle a number of non-profit organizations now. I can't speak to our policy regarding that, but I'm sure our sales gang could tailor something for you. We're not so big that we can't "bend the rules" a bit to suit a client's specific needs. I'd suggest you give them a shout. You can even use my name as a contact if you wish. > So, the nutshell is this: > My employer is a non-profit NGO on a painfully limited budget. They need > the biggest bang for their buck in everything they do. The goal is the > most cost-effective way to begin to make video material available to > the widest possible public (the site has a very strong 3rd world interest). > Whether that be an open source solution on one of my hosts, or contracting > to a third party interest like your organization or anything in between, is > virtually unimportant at this point. The goal is biggest bang. :-) > > Hey, perhaps you'd like to broker a service donation to the "leading global > non-governmental organisation devoted to combating corruption"! You've got to talk to our sales gang. I'm sure they can help you out one way or another. > I'd really appreciate any direction or help you could offer, Rick, and thank > you greatly in advance. > > > (Oh, I've also just notice that your company is looking to fill a few > positions.... What's the cost of living down there?) Depends. The corporate office is in Irvine, CA. We're about 15 miles from Disneyland in Orange County. Much of the county is "beach", so it ain't cheap. You can live in the inland areas (Santa Ana, Orange, Tustin, etc.) which aren't as expensive. The costal areas (Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Seal Beach, Costa Mesa, Santa Ana, Corona Del Mar, Laguna Beach, etc.) are quite a bit higher. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - First Law of Work: - - If you can't get it done in the first 24 hours, work nights. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkinz at kinz.org Tue Apr 19 18:58:59 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:58:59 -0400 Subject: SOLVED pending more tests, Re: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net>; from jkinz@kinz.org on Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:39:25PM -0400 References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> Out story so far: As you may recall, our intrepid "hero" was losing emails from email lists which used to be delivered reliably: > > Jeff Kinz wrote: > > > It seems I forgot some essential information, er, um, these two email > > > sources, internet.com and bulk.scd.yahoo.com are legitimate email > > > sources trying to send me email for various email lists that I signed up > > > for. I have been happily receiving email from them for some time but I > > > noticed that at some point in the past it was becoming unreliable and > > > recently they all started just failing. > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:16:40PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Then your ISP has a connectivity issue with those networks. Complain > > to your ISP. It'd help if you could include traceroutes from you to > > the questionable networks. > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:39:25PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > My ISP ix Comcast ~.>>>~~~ They aro a huce ISP.xxxxzzzz I'n sure they > donut xave~ any pro blems with hair nets works. > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:16:40PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Run traceroutes to the mailservers in question and include those in your > > discussions with your ISP. They may have a peering issue. For example, > > one of our upstream providers in Amsterdam decided to stop peering with > > Cogent. Their network crashed because their other peers couldn't handle > > the traffic. On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:39:25PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > According to some of the traffic on NANOG there may be more of this > happing and more to come as well. joy. Before following Rick's excellent suggestion on sending traceroutes to my ISP's (Comcast) tech support dept, I did some further googling for the "Lost input channel" diagnostic message sendmail was putting in the logfiles. The information I found was sketchy at best. (try '"lost input channel" sendmail' in Google) This message seems to happen most frequently when a spammer is trying to send an email, but it can also happen when the multiple DNS lookups being done before accepting the email either fail to return or time out. Following that direction, as an experiment I added these two lines to the sendmail.mc file: FEATURE(`nocanonify') FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') Then rebuilt the sendmail config and restarted sendmail. The problems seemed to stop almost immediately. As a final verification I will reverse this change and see if the same symptom re-appears. -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Apr 19 21:41:04 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:41:04 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Help relocation error Message-ID: I'm trying to get tricky, I've got all my music ripped to 80G of spare space on my son's Windows machine and I can listen to it on my RedHat 9 box. Works great. But now I want my FC2 notebook to be able to do the same and I get the following error when running Digital DJ (ddj) /usr/bin/ddj: relocation error: /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.10: symobl errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in the file libc.so.6 with link time reference What does that mean and more importantly how do I go about fixing it? Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From jkinz at kinz.org Tue Apr 19 21:49:50 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:49:50 -0400 Subject: Help relocation error In-Reply-To: ; from brad.mugleston@comcast.net on Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:41:04PM -0600 References: Message-ID: <20050419174950.B15103@redline.comcast.net> On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:41:04PM -0600, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > /usr/bin/ddj: relocation error: /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.10: > symobl errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in the file libc.so.6 > with link time reference Sounds like this library:/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so was built using version 2.0 of GLIB, and your FC2 machine has a version of :libc.so.6 that was built with some other version of Glib. If this is correct you need to get a different version of one of those two files. -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Apr 19 22:00:38 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:00:38 -0700 Subject: Some file copying help please Message-ID: I need to copy data from here /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4 To /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 I need the path of dir2 on down to remain in tact. But the top folder is changing. I basically want to copy dir4 from one filesystem to another and retain it's path, short the name of the first directory (dir1/dir5). Without having to manually go in and create dir2 and dir3, which are both empty. IS there a way to make cp do this? I can't find one, it just errors out stating that the destination path is invalid. I'm struggling to find a way to get tar to do this well. I have about 400 directories like this to copy, so I need to figure out a command line to script this sucker out. Thanks, Travis From ctar at loc.gov Tue Apr 19 22:10:41 2005 From: ctar at loc.gov (Cristian Tarhon) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:10:41 -0400 Subject: Some file copying help please Message-ID: cp -R /dir1/dir2 /dir5 This message sent from BlackBerry Enterprise Server. >>> Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com 4/19 6:00 pm >>> I need to copy data from here /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4 To /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 I need the path of dir2 on down to remain in tact. But the top folder is changing. I basically want to copy dir4 from one filesystem to another and retain it's path, short the name of the first directory (dir1/dir5). Without having to manually go in and create dir2 and dir3, which are both empty. IS there a way to make cp do this? I can't find one, it just errors out stating that the destination path is invalid. I'm struggling to find a way to get tar to do this well. I have about 400 directories like this to copy, so I need to figure out a command line to script this sucker out. Thanks, Travis _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Apr 19 22:12:42 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:12:42 -0700 Subject: Some file copying help please Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Cristian Tarhon [mailto:ctar at loc.gov] > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:11 PM > To: Waldher, Travis R; redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Some file copying help please > > cp -R /dir1/dir2 /dir5 > > > This message sent from BlackBerry Enterprise Server. > I should have said something else more accurately. The source data, dir2 and dir3 have tons of data in them. I just want dir4 and it's contents to be copied, but except for dir1's name. I need to retain the path to get to dir4 on the new filesystem. Does that make more sense? (I think I need some coffee) From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 19 22:16:52 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:16:52 -0700 Subject: SOLVED pending more tests, Re: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > Out story so far: > As you may recall, our intrepid "hero" was losing emails from email > lists which used to be delivered reliably: > > >>>Jeff Kinz wrote: >>> >>>>It seems I forgot some essential information, er, um, these two email >>>>sources, internet.com and bulk.scd.yahoo.com are legitimate email >>>>sources trying to send me email for various email lists that I signed up >>>>for. I have been happily receiving email from them for some time but I >>>>noticed that at some point in the past it was becoming unreliable and >>>>recently they all started just failing. >>> > >>On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:16:40PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>>Then your ISP has a connectivity issue with those networks. Complain >>>to your ISP. It'd help if you could include traceroutes from you to >>>the questionable networks. >> > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:39:25PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > >>My ISP ix Comcast ~.>>>~~~ They aro a huce ISP.xxxxzzzz I'n sure they >>donut xave~ any pro blems with hair nets works. > > > >>On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:16:40PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>>Run traceroutes to the mailservers in question and include those in your >>>discussions with your ISP. They may have a peering issue. For example, >>>one of our upstream providers in Amsterdam decided to stop peering with >>>Cogent. Their network crashed because their other peers couldn't handle >>>the traffic. > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:39:25PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > >>According to some of the traffic on NANOG there may be more of this >>happing and more to come as well. joy. > > > Before following Rick's excellent suggestion on sending traceroutes to my > ISP's (Comcast) tech support dept, I did some further googling for the > "Lost input channel" diagnostic message sendmail was putting in the > logfiles. The information I found was sketchy at best. > (try '"lost input channel" sendmail' in Google) > > This message seems to happen most frequently when a spammer is trying to > send an email, but it can also happen when the multiple DNS lookups > being done before accepting the email either fail to return or time out. > > Following that direction, as an experiment I added these two lines to > the sendmail.mc file: > FEATURE(`nocanonify') > FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') UGH! Those are bad moves. HUGE amounts of spam and viruii come from unresolvable domains--that's one reason you don't want to accept such stuff. Stop it before it gets into your spools and your spam bot or antivirus has to deal with it. > Then rebuilt the sendmail config and restarted sendmail. > > The problems seemed to stop almost immediately. Well, sure. You're accepting some bad stuff now. We have simple rules here: If you send us stuff that's not from a FQDN, if your domain doesn't resolve, if the IP you claim you're on doesn't reverse resolve or doesn't match what you claim your domain is, we reject it, log the IPs and such and file complaints. We've gotten two /24 networks banned from the internet like that (the *ssholes were in China). I can absolutely guarantee you'll see spam and viruses galore coming from China, Columbia, Korea and Brazil. > As a final verification I will reverse this change and see if the same > symptom re-appears. It will. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - First Law of Work: - - If you can't get it done in the first 24 hours, work nights. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Tue Apr 19 22:38:16 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 01:38:16 +0300 Subject: SOLVED pending more tests, Re: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <42658858.7050405@cha.forthnet.gr> Greetings Jeff , < snip > > Following that direction, as an experiment I added these two lines to > the sendmail.mc file: > FEATURE(`nocanonify') > FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') Jeff , isn't enabling the accept unresolvable domains Feature a door for spamming the server in question ? What would the sideeffects of that be ? > Then rebuilt the sendmail config and restarted sendmail. > > The problems seemed to stop almost immediately. > > As a final verification I will reverse this change and see if the same > symptom re-appears. Kind Regards, Kostas From gerrynix at yahoo.com Tue Apr 19 22:43:20 2005 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Some file copying help please In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050419224321.19783.qmail@web51907.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Waldher, Travis R" wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Cristian Tarhon [mailto:ctar at loc.gov] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:11 PM > > To: Waldher, Travis R; redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > Subject: Re: Some file copying help please > > > > cp -R /dir1/dir2 /dir5 > > > > > > This message sent from BlackBerry Enterprise Server. > > > > I should have said something else more accurately. > > The source data, dir2 and dir3 have tons of data in them. I just want > dir4 and it's contents to be copied, but except for dir1's name. I need > to retain the path to get to dir4 on the new filesystem. > > Does that make more sense? > > (I think I need some coffee) Well maybe the hard way is the best (easiest) way, and you can drink as much coffee as you like :) Assuming that dir5 does not exist, create the empty directory tree first: mkdir -p /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 then go to the source (dir4) cd /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4 then while in THIS dir4: find . -print | cpio -pvdum /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 then /dir5 - /dir5/dir2 and /dir5/dir2/dir3 will remain empty, while /dir5/dir2/dir3/(dir4) will be duplicated -- Nix I need the path of dir2 on down to remain in tact. But the top folder is changing. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 19 22:58:20 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:58:20 -0700 Subject: Some file copying help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42658D0C.70109@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > I need to copy data from here > > /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4 > > To > > /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 > > I need the path of dir2 on down to remain in tact. But the top folder > is changing. > > I basically want to copy dir4 from one filesystem to another and retain > it's path, short the name of the first directory (dir1/dir5). Without > having to manually go in and create dir2 and dir3, which are both empty. > > IS there a way to make cp do this? I can't find one, it just errors out > stating that the destination path is invalid. I'm struggling to find a > way to get tar to do this well. > > I have about 400 directories like this to copy, so I need to figure out > a command line to script this sucker out. How about: cp -a --parents /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/* /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 19 23:10:46 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:10:46 -0700 Subject: Help relocation error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42658FF6.4040204@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm trying to get tricky, I've got all my music ripped to 80G of > spare space on my son's Windows machine and I can listen to it on > my RedHat 9 box. Works great. > > But now I want my FC2 notebook to be able to do the same and I > get the following error when running Digital DJ (ddj) > > /usr/bin/ddj: relocation error: /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.10: > symobl errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in the file libc.so.6 > with link time reference > > > What does that mean and more importantly how do I go about fixing > it? It means you have a buggy libmysqlclient on the notebook. Fix it by "yum -y update mysql-devel" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 19 23:23:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:23:15 -0700 Subject: Some file copying help please In-Reply-To: <42658D0C.70109@vitalstream.com> References: <42658D0C.70109@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <426592E3.2080303@vitalstream.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> I need to copy data from here >> >> /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4 >> To >> /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 >> >> I need the path of dir2 on down to remain in tact. But the top folder >> is changing. >> >> I basically want to copy dir4 from one filesystem to another and retain >> it's path, short the name of the first directory (dir1/dir5). Without >> having to manually go in and create dir2 and dir3, which are both empty. >> >> IS there a way to make cp do this? I can't find one, it just errors out >> stating that the destination path is invalid. I'm struggling to find a >> way to get tar to do this well. >> >> I have about 400 directories like this to copy, so I need to figure out >> a command line to script this sucker out. > > > How about: > > cp -a --parents /dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4/* /dir5/dir2/dir3/dir4 DOH! Try: cd /dir1 cp -a --parents dir2/dir3/dir4 /dir5 (stupid!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Apr 19 23:33:51 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:33:51 -0700 Subject: Some file copying help please Message-ID: > DOH! Try: > > cd /dir1 > cp -a --parents dir2/dir3/dir4 /dir5 > > (stupid!) THANKS!! Sometimes the obvious just escapes me. If you heard a bang! That was my head hitting the desk after reading the paths you just wrote. So, -a, what exactly does archive mean? I was using -R and -p. Thanks again, Travis From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 00:02:33 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:02:33 -0700 Subject: Some file copying help please In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42659C19.1010000@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>DOH! Try: >> >> cd /dir1 >> cp -a --parents dir2/dir3/dir4 /dir5 >> >>(stupid!) > > > THANKS!! > > Sometimes the obvious just escapes me. If you heard a bang! That was my > head hitting the desk after reading the paths you just wrote. Heheheheh! Been there. Done that. Have the concussion to prove it! :-D > So, -a, what exactly does archive mean? I was using -R and -p. All "-a" adds to "-pR" is that cp should NOT dereference symlinks. That means it should copy symlinks as symlinks, not as the files they reference. I think it does modify relative symlinks so they point at the right target if they cross paths, however. I'd have to check that. Anyway, deconvolving the whole mess: "-a" = "-dpR" "-d" = "--no-dereference --preserve=link" "-p" = "--preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps" "-r" = "--recursive" Since "-d" includes part of "--preserve", but "-p" adds the rest, you can consider these commands as identical: cp -a cp -dpR cp --no-dereference --preserve=all --recursive "cp -a" is just easier to type. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkinz at kinz.org Wed Apr 20 00:48:22 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:48:22 -0400 Subject: More Spam? (was: Re: SOLVED Re: Dropping email on the floor? In-Reply-To: <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com>; from rstevens@vitalstream.com on Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:16:52PM -0700 References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:16:52PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Jeff Kinz wrote: > > Following that direction, as an experiment I added these two lines to > > the sendmail.mc file: > > FEATURE(`nocanonify') > > FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') > > UGH! Those are bad moves. HUGE amounts of spam and viruii come from > unresolvable domains--that's one reason you don't want to accept such > stuff. Stop it before it gets into your spools and your spam bot or > antivirus has to deal with it. > > > Then rebuilt the sendmail config and restarted sendmail. > > > > The problems seemed to stop almost immediately. > > Well, sure. You're accepting some bad stuff now. We have simple rules > here: If you send us stuff that's not from a FQDN, if your domain > doesn't resolve, if the IP you claim you're on doesn't reverse resolve > or doesn't match what you claim your domain is, we reject it, log the > IPs and such and file complaints. We've gotten two /24 networks banned > from the internet like that (the *ssholes were in China). > > I can absolutely guarantee you'll see spam and viruses galore coming > from China, Columbia, Korea and Brazil. > > > As a final verification I will reverse this change and see if the same > > symptom re-appears. > > It will. On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:38:16AM +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > > FEATURE(`nocanonify') > > FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') > > Jeff , isn't enabling the accept unresolvable domains > Feature a door for spamming the server in question ? > What would the sideeffects of that be ? Rick and Kostas are both correct (except for .. see below). Turning on those two features in Sendmail does potentially allow more spam to reach your systems. It is not recommended except in dire cases. The point in this case was to reduce the number and kind of DNS queries Sendmail was making about the incoming emails. Turning on the above features does that. My ISP, Comcast, is experiencing, ahem, DNS "difficulties" which, because the DNS lookups on email from certain sources were failing, (others were/are having no problems) was preventing my systems from getting large quantities of legitimate emails. Now those good emails are getting through. re - the SPAM, well so far the increase has not been detectable and thanks to bogofilter its not showing up anywhere except the spam bin (knocks on wood) so far, so good. So - I have a question. It appears that Comcast will never get its act together enough to use its DNS services the way I need to. Does anyone have any suggestions on what other techniques I can use to implement a better (more responsive/timely) DNS ? -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 01:27:46 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:27:46 -0700 Subject: More Spam? In-Reply-To: <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com> <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4265B012.1010909@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:16:52PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Jeff Kinz wrote: >> >>>Following that direction, as an experiment I added these two lines to >>>the sendmail.mc file: >>>FEATURE(`nocanonify') >>>FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') >> >>UGH! Those are bad moves. HUGE amounts of spam and viruii come from >>unresolvable domains--that's one reason you don't want to accept such >>stuff. Stop it before it gets into your spools and your spam bot or >>antivirus has to deal with it. >> >> >>>Then rebuilt the sendmail config and restarted sendmail. >>> >>>The problems seemed to stop almost immediately. >> >>Well, sure. You're accepting some bad stuff now. We have simple rules >>here: If you send us stuff that's not from a FQDN, if your domain >>doesn't resolve, if the IP you claim you're on doesn't reverse resolve >>or doesn't match what you claim your domain is, we reject it, log the >>IPs and such and file complaints. We've gotten two /24 networks banned >>from the internet like that (the *ssholes were in China). >> >>I can absolutely guarantee you'll see spam and viruses galore coming >>from China, Columbia, Korea and Brazil. >> >> >>>As a final verification I will reverse this change and see if the same >>>symptom re-appears. >> >>It will. > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 01:38:16AM +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > >>>FEATURE(`nocanonify') >>>FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') >> >>Jeff , isn't enabling the accept unresolvable domains >>Feature a door for spamming the server in question ? >>What would the sideeffects of that be ? > > > Rick and Kostas are both correct (except for .. see below). Turning on > those two features in Sendmail does potentially allow more spam to reach > your systems. It is not recommended except in dire cases. > > The point in this case was to reduce the number and kind of DNS > queries Sendmail was making about the incoming emails. Turning on the > above features does that. My ISP, Comcast, is experiencing, ahem, DNS > "difficulties" which, because the DNS lookups on email from certain sources > were failing, (others were/are having no problems) was preventing my > systems from getting large quantities of legitimate emails. Now those > good emails are getting through. > > re - the SPAM, well so far the increase has not been detectable and > thanks to bogofilter its not showing up anywhere except the spam bin > (knocks on wood) so far, so good. > > So - I have a question. It appears that Comcast will never get its act > together enough to use its DNS services the way I need to. Does anyone > have any suggestions on what other techniques I can use to implement a > better (more responsive/timely) DNS ? Use other DNS servers. Edit ye ol' /etc/resolv.conf and stuff in some other servers. Here's a few: VitalStream, Inc., Los Angeles, CA USA (I run these two, among others) 64.7.192.162 (dns-01-001.root-dns.com) 64.7.192.163 (dns-01-002.root-dns.com) open-rsc.org: 199.166.28.10 (PS0.NS2.VRX.NET) - Atlanta, Ga 199.166.29.3 (nl.public.rootfix.net) - Nederlands 199.166.31.3 (NS1.QUASAR.NET) - Orlando, FL, USA 199.5.157.128 (ASLAN.OPEN-RSC.ORG) - Detroit, MI, USA Of course, you could set up a caching DNS server on your network and use it. Or sign up for one of the free DynamicDNS services and use their servers (and set a record for your home stuff, too). Comcast really should pull their heads out of their arses and fix their problems. DNS ain't rocket science. Any semi-competent network person should be able to sort out their issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What's small, yellow and very, VERY dangerous? The root canary! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Apr 20 02:29:16 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:29:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Help relocation error In-Reply-To: <42658FF6.4040204@vitalstream.com> References: <42658FF6.4040204@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: > > It means you have a buggy libmysqlclient on the notebook. Fix it by > "yum -y update mysql-devel" Better yet, I installed mysql-devel - didn't know that was where libmysqlclient was. Now I don't get that error but I've got to hit the books to figure out the new message. Unable to connect to server. Do I need the SERVER software on my notebook? All I want to do it access another machine running the server. Mmm, mabe it's in the drive mapping. Brad From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 20 03:28:33 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:58:33 +0530 Subject: shell shripts? References: <004f01c544d0$d2a45ac0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050419154034.GA24612@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <003001c54559$090ed4e0$260210ac@tivimnet> thanks ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob McClure Jr To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Re: shell shripts? > On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 04:43:32PM +0530, ajay wrote: > > tell me some good stuff to learn shell scripting. > > > > i do not have any prior programming experience. > > > > thanks n rgds > > > > ajay > > http://www.bestwebbuys.com/books/search.jsp?isrc=b-home-search&N=0&Ntt=unix+ shell+programming&x=29&y=11&Ntk=P_Title > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > The best things in life aren't things. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 20 03:56:37 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:26:37 +0530 Subject: shell shripts? References: <20050419155621.89178.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003a01c5455c$f66a5a40$260210ac@tivimnet> thanks a lot ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: gerrynix To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: Re: shell shripts? > > --- ajay wrote: > > tell me some good stuff to learn shell scripting. > > > > i do not have any prior programming experience. > > > > thanks n rgds > > > > ajay > > Do an Internet search on "bash shell tutorual" > You will find the following 4 and many more. Most > of these are free and very helpful. > > www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html > www.freeos.com/guides/lsst > steve-parker.org/sh/sh.shtml > linux.org.mt/article/terminal > -- > Nix > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 20 07:13:55 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:43:55 +0530 Subject: uptime solution Message-ID: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> hi can you tell me solution for uptime. here in my company , many data operaters, scan operaters, image editors .. work and i want a solution for their machine uptime , on daily basis and monthly, and reporting , to a centralised server and by email automatic. and further we can calculate their uptime and take printouts. highly thankful for help ! rgds ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wralphie at comcast.net Wed Apr 20 07:36:00 2005 From: wralphie at comcast.net (jludwig) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:36:00 -0400 Subject: uptime solution In-Reply-To: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <200504200336.00829.wralphie@comcast.net> On Wednesday 20 April 2005 03:13 am, ajay wrote: > hi can you tell me solution for uptime. > > here in my company , many data operaters, scan operaters, image editors .. > work and i want a solution for their machine uptime , on daily basis and > monthly, and reporting , to a centralised server and by email automatic. > and further we can calculate their uptime and take printouts. > > highly thankful for help ! > > rgds > > ajay If the server is going to keep this information you could set a cron to ping each system say every 5 minutes and set a cron to mail the information to you daily. -- John H Ludwig From hsing at theadventus.com Wed Apr 20 08:21:40 2005 From: hsing at theadventus.com (Ang Hsing) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:21:40 +0800 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Installation Problem Message-ID: <42661114.7030708@theadventus.com> Hi Gurus, I am trying to install FC3 on a server with Software RAID 1 with 2x120GB harddisks. The problem I have is that right after installation on the first boot. I get to this screen that just says 'GRUB' and 'hangs' there. I can't type anything unlike the usual 'grub>' prompt. What can be wrong? I have specified a '/boot' partition during the configuration. The 2 hard drives are suppose to be identical in my configuration. Thanks for any advice! From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 20 08:35:30 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:05:30 +0530 Subject: uptime solution References: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> <200504200336.00829.wralphie@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00ec01c54583$e9888dc0$260210ac@tivimnet> can u tell me how to write mail using "mail" command or any other command , i meant what is command syntax so as i will make a small script and schedule by cron. it should include attachment option... rgds ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: jludwig To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: Re: uptime solution > On Wednesday 20 April 2005 03:13 am, ajay wrote: > > hi can you tell me solution for uptime. > > > > here in my company , many data operaters, scan operaters, image editors .. > > work and i want a solution for their machine uptime , on daily basis and > > monthly, and reporting , to a centralised server and by email automatic. > > and further we can calculate their uptime and take printouts. > > > > highly thankful for help ! > > > > rgds > > > > ajay > If the server is going to keep this information you could set a cron to ping > each system say every 5 minutes and set a cron to mail the information to you > daily. > -- > John H Ludwig > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 20 09:50:48 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:20:48 +0530 Subject: linux domain Message-ID: <011401c5458e$6f007260$260210ac@tivimnet> hi i want to make my linux box as pdc (domain) and people to login there and also want to keep log of all logins and logouts in linux server with date and time, also tell what changes i have to make in /etc/syslog.config to acomplish this. thanks for help ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikev777 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 20 09:50:03 2005 From: mikev777 at hotmail.com (Michael Velez) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:50:03 -0400 Subject: shell shripts? In-Reply-To: <003a01c5455c$f66a5a40$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of ajay > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:57 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: shell shripts? > > thanks a lot > > ajay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gerrynix > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: shell shripts? > > > > > > --- ajay wrote: > > > tell me some good stuff to learn shell scripting. > > > > > > i do not have any prior programming experience. > > > > > > thanks n rgds > > > > > > ajay > > > > Do an Internet search on "bash shell tutorual" > > You will find the following 4 and many more. Most > > of these are free and very helpful. > > > > www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html > > www.freeos.com/guides/lsst > > steve-parker.org/sh/sh.shtml > > linux.org.mt/article/terminal > > -- > > Nix > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > If you don't mind dense reading, you can also take a look at the bash man page. It has a lot of nitty gritty details. Michael From dana.work at navarrocollege.edu Wed Apr 20 14:16:18 2005 From: dana.work at navarrocollege.edu (Dana Holland) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:16:18 -0500 Subject: install question Message-ID: <42666432.5090603@navarrocollege.edu> We had a box running 8.0. We tried to upgrade it to ES 3.0. Although it's running, and the kernel appears to be correct, there are many things that are not functioning, and the box still "thinks" that it's at 8.0. Upon further research, the official RedHat documentation seems to indicate that you can't do an upgrade from 8.0. When we boot off the CD-ROM, it doesn't give us options to upgrade or migrate as I'd seen on previous versions of RH. Does this sound normal? And when it gets to the part about disk partitioning, we aren't sure whether to choose automatic or manual. This is a production box - we aren't being given more than a couple of hours of downtime to make this conversion. Will the automatic option wipe out what's currently on the box? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 16:25:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:25:05 -0700 Subject: Help relocation error In-Reply-To: References: <42658FF6.4040204@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42668261.8070106@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >>It means you have a buggy libmysqlclient on the notebook. Fix it by >>"yum -y update mysql-devel" > > > > Better yet, I installed mysql-devel - didn't know that was where > libmysqlclient was. Now I don't get that error but I've got to > hit the books to figure out the new message. Unable to connect > to server. Do I need the SERVER software on my notebook? All I > want to do it access another machine running the server. If you're using localhost as your mysql server, yes, you need mysql-server. I'm not familiar with that application, so I don't know what it's using mysql for. > Mmm, mabe it's in the drive mapping. Could be. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the - - reader...who doesn't get it. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 16:36:44 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:36:44 -0700 Subject: uptime solution In-Reply-To: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <4266851C.10601@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > hi can you tell me solution for uptime. > > here in my company , many data operaters, scan operaters, image editors > .. work and i want a solution for their machine uptime , on daily basis > and monthly, and reporting , to a centralised server and by email > automatic. and further we can calculate their uptime and take printouts. The classic way is to make sure all of the other machines are running rstatd, then run "rup hostname" on your data collection machine to get the uptime for the remote machine: [root at prophead root]# rup golem golem up 1 day, 18:32, load average: 0.00 0.00 0.00 To run rstatd on the remote machines, chkconfig --levels 2345 rstatd on will make sure it starts at boot time, and /etc/rc.d/init.d/rstatd start to start it the first time. Note that rstatd uses the RPC mechanism as NFS does, so don't forget to poke holes in the firewall for it. Look at the man page for "rup", as there are some other options available. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - NEWS FLASH! Intelligence of mankind decreasing! Details at... - - uh, when, uh, the little hand is, uh, on the... Aw, NUTS! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 20 16:47:37 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:47:37 -0600 Subject: grub.comf Message-ID: <1114015657.3896.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have edited my grub.conf file and changes the default=0 to get my system to boot to a new kernel in beta I downloaded. Can Linux to present me with a choice of kernels to start when the system boots so I don't have to edit grub.conf each time? Linux version 2.6.9-6.37.EL (bhcompile at decompose.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22)) #1 Tue Mar 29 15:34:14 EST 2005 [root at RHServer01 ~]# Thank You From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 16:49:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:49:35 -0700 Subject: Fedora Core 3 Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <42661114.7030708@theadventus.com> References: <42661114.7030708@theadventus.com> Message-ID: <4266881F.7090805@vitalstream.com> Ang Hsing wrote: > Hi Gurus, > I am trying to install FC3 on a server with Software RAID 1 > with 2x120GB harddisks. The problem I have is that right after > installation on the first boot. I get to this screen that just > says 'GRUB' and 'hangs' there. It isn't finding the second level booter. > I can't type anything unlike the usual 'grub>' prompt. > What can be wrong? I have specified a '/boot' partition during > the configuration. The 2 hard drives are suppose to be identical > in my configuration. Uh, there's several possible problems. Grub may not be installed in the boot sectors of both disks, or the /boot environment on both isn't the same. First, you need to boot off the CD in rescue mode. Make sure the system loads the RAID-1 software. Let the system mount your enviroment and "chroot/mnt/sysimage" to enter that environment. You need to edit your /boot/grub/grub.conf file and make sure that the boot loader is aimed at the correct boot drive. If it is, do a "grub-install" again. Verify that your /etc/fstab file correctly indicates that "/" and "/boot" is on the RAID-1 set. You should then go to /boot and rebuild your initrd image. Make sure you add the "-f -v" options to mkinitrd and verify that the RAID drivers are loaded into the initrd image. Finally, enter "exit" twice (once to exit the chrooted environment, twice to force a reboot) and see if it comes up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 16:56:11 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:56:11 -0700 Subject: linux domain In-Reply-To: <011401c5458e$6f007260$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <011401c5458e$6f007260$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <426689AB.5090601@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > hi > > i want to make my linux box as pdc (domain) and people to login there > and also want to keep log of all logins and logouts in linux server with > date and time, also tell what changes i have to make in > /etc/syslog.config to acomplish this. This is all covered in the Samba documentation. You should first go to http://www.samba.org and read the manuals. We can't teach you step- by-step how to install and configure Samba--that's better done by using Samba documentation. We can answer specific questions as to "Gee, I set this up and I get a "controller not found" error. What happened?" So, please read the manual and try to set it up. If you get stuck, THAT's the time to post _specific_ questions here on the list and we'll help you out. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "More hay, Trigger?" "No thanks, Roy, I'm stuffed!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 17:07:28 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:07:28 -0700 Subject: install question In-Reply-To: <42666432.5090603@navarrocollege.edu> References: <42666432.5090603@navarrocollege.edu> Message-ID: <42668C50.4010308@vitalstream.com> Dana Holland wrote: > We had a box running 8.0. We tried to upgrade it to ES 3.0. Although > it's running, and the kernel appears to be correct, there are many > things that are not functioning, and the box still "thinks" that it's at > 8.0. Upon further research, the official RedHat documentation seems to > indicate that you can't do an upgrade from 8.0. 8.0 to RHES3 is one helluva jump! No, I don't believe there was a valid upgrade path between those two. Really, it was from 8.0/9 to RHES2.1, and from there to RHES3. Why? Well, ES3 is a pretty different beast from 8.0. NPTL kernel, big changes in C libraries, desktop environment, lots of stuff. However, it is possible that you truly are running ES3 despite what the prompts and such say. The "Welcome to blah-blah" is contained in the file "/etc/issue" (which may not have been touched during your "upgrade"). The file which indicates which OS the machine thinks it's running is "/etc/redhat-release" > When we boot off the CD-ROM, it doesn't give us options to upgrade or > migrate as I'd seen on previous versions of RH. Does this sound normal? Well, you're in a transition between the two, so it's possible. > And when it gets to the part about disk partitioning, we aren't sure > whether to choose automatic or manual. This is a production box - we > aren't being given more than a couple of hours of downtime to make this > conversion. Will the automatic option wipe out what's currently on the > box? I would recommend you choose "manual". For each partition, edit it. When you get into the edit screen, look and see what the partition was mounted as before (somewhere it says "Previously mounted as blah"). Make sure you make the mountpoint the same. Make sure you UNCHECK the "format partition" option. In other words, DO NOT ALLOW THE SYSTEM TO REFORMAT YOUR EXISTING PARTIONS! The install then will overwrite the parts of the OS it has to, but will leave your data alone. Of course, you must make DAMNED sure you have an adequate, full system backup BEFORE you do any of this! Any time you futz with OS upgrades, you run the risk of hosing existing stuff. You have been warned! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The gene pool could use a little chlorine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 17:10:51 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:10:51 -0700 Subject: grub.comf In-Reply-To: <1114015657.3896.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114015657.3896.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42668D1B.8060108@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have edited my grub.conf file and changes the default=0 to get my > system to boot to a new kernel in beta I downloaded. > > Can Linux to present me with a choice of kernels to start when the > system boots so I don't have to edit grub.conf each time? > > Linux version 2.6.9-6.37.EL (bhcompile at decompose.build.redhat.com) (gcc > version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22)) #1 Tue Mar 29 15:34:14 EST > 2005 > [root at RHServer01 ~]# Grub should display all of the kernels in the /boot/grub/grub.conf file at boot time. Use the up/down arrows to select the kernel you want, then press "ENTER". If that menu isn't displayed, check the "timeout=" line in grub.conf (should be right after the "default=" line). That sets the number of seconds the menu is displayed. If no keys are hit before that expires, the default kernel is booted. If it's set to 0: timeout=0 then the menu is never displayed and the default kernel is booted immediately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 17:10:54 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:10:54 -0700 Subject: grub.comf In-Reply-To: <1114015657.3896.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114015657.3896.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05042010103c354e5@mail.gmail.com> On 4/20/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > I have edited my grub.conf file and changes the default=0 to get my > system to boot to a new kernel in beta I downloaded. > > Can Linux to present me with a choice of kernels to start when the > system boots so I don't have to edit grub.conf each time? > > Linux version 2.6.9-6.37.EL (bhcompile at decompose.build.redhat.com) (gcc > version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22)) #1 Tue Mar 29 15:34:14 EST > 2005 > [root at RHServer01 ~]# > > Thank You > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Sure - here's one that does. Put the hiddenmenu command back in if you don't want to see the options. # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda5 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda #hiddenmenu default=0 timeout=12 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Core (2.6.11-0.3.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-0.3.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.11-0.3.rdt.rhfc2.ccrma.img title Gentoo Sources (2.6.11-gentoo-r6) root (hd0,0) kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r6 ro root=/dev/hda8 From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Apr 20 17:33:10 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:33:10 -0700 Subject: linux domain Message-ID: >From: ajay [mailto:sysadmin at tivimtech.com] >Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:51 AM >To: redhat >Subject: linux domain > >hi >? >i want to?make my linux box as pdc (domain) and people to login there and >also want to keep log of all logins and logouts in linux server with date >and time, also tell what changes i have to make in /etc/syslog.config to >acomplish this. >? >thanks for help >? >ajay The fact that you referenced a linux "domain controller" as a pdc tells me you're a mostly Windows shop. I would highly recommend finding a good book about Linux, NIS, DNS, etc. and starting there. To answer your question the services you are looking for are either NIS (NIS+ has been abandoned last I heard) or LDAP. LDAP is the way of the future, but is NOT directly compatible with Windows AD. From dumbkid at hotmail.com Wed Apr 20 19:31:10 2005 From: dumbkid at hotmail.com (Dumb Kid) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:31:10 +0000 Subject: Outbound SMTP connection Message-ID: Hi all, I have a ES v3 pre-insatlled on a DELL server. Somehow, I cannot create any outbound smtp connections. This is what happen: [dumbkid at dsvr-1 t]$ telnet mx1.mail.yahoo.com smtp Trying 67.28.113.10... It just hangs. It does not matter which mail server I tried, same result. I even tried disable the iptables "service iptables stop". Same thing. So, any emails supposed to forward outside of the company to @yahoo.com are all stucked in the mailq. I am wondering what could be preventing me from creating outbound smtp connection? This is a fresh install. Thanks in advance. Tom From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 20 20:24:55 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:24:55 -0600 Subject: Kernel Despair Message-ID: <1114028695.3786.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> After editing my grub.conf file a few hours ago,to give me a chance to select a kernel. I found 6 kernels that I was being offered the chance to boot to. I am currently trying to get sound going on a beta kernal, and I want to keep the supported kernel. How can I remove the other 4 kernels? [root at RHServer01 ~]# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.9-6.37.ELsmp (bhcompile at decompose.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22)) #1 SMP Tue Mar 29 15:43:19 EST 2005 [root at RHServer01 ~]# Thanks From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 20:50:29 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:50:29 -0700 Subject: Kernel Despair In-Reply-To: <1114028695.3786.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114028695.3786.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050420135059a0fa19@mail.gmail.com> On 4/20/05, Scott Mertens wrote: > After editing my grub.conf file a few hours ago,to give me a chance to > select a kernel. I found 6 kernels that I was being offered the chance > to boot to. I am currently trying to get sound going on a beta kernal, > and I want to keep the supported kernel. How can I remove the other 4 > kernels? > > [root at RHServer01 ~]# cat /proc/version > Linux version 2.6.9-6.37.ELsmp (bhcompile at decompose.build.redhat.com) > (gcc version 3.4.3 20050227 (Red Hat 3.4.3-22)) #1 SMP Tue Mar 29 > 15:43:19 EST 2005 > [root at RHServer01 ~]# > > Thanks Scott, There really isn't any reason to remove them other than disk space issues. I would recommend going slowly at first. They won't hurt anythign sitting there for a few more days. With that preface out of the way it would go something like this. (A bit distro specific and since I don't use RHEL or anything in that product line go carefully: 1) Edit grub.conf to remove the kernels that you are interested in. Reboot the machine at least once to make sure that you have the one you want showing up. 2) Mount /boot and remove the kernel image file. It may be called kernel-xxx, bzImage.xxx, vmImage-xxx or anything along those lines. Also remove any files like initrd-xxx, config-xxx, etc. that match up with the kernel you are removing. 3) Look under /lib/modules for the direcorties that match the kernels you want to get right of. rm -rf those directories. Make sure you do not remove any directories for the kernels you want to keep. 4) Take a trip over to /usr/src and see what you have there. First make sure that if there is a link for /usr/src/linux that it points to the kernel you want to run. If you need to set it up then ls -s /usr/src/linux-KEEP_VERSION linux from the /usr/src directory will do that for you. 5) After the link is properly checked and set up you will then remove any kernel source code trees for kernels you don't want any more. rm -rf linux-xxx That's about it. That process is full of places wher you can hurt you machine and be almost forced into a total reinstall so please be careful!! Cheers, Mark From dumbkid at hotmail.com Wed Apr 20 20:56:54 2005 From: dumbkid at hotmail.com (Dumb Kid) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:56:54 +0000 Subject: Outbound SMTP connection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please disregard. We found out it's the ISP that's filtering the outbound SMTP traffic. Thanks. >From: "Dumb Kid" <dumbkid at hotmail.com> >Reply-To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux <redhat-install-list at redhat.com> >To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com >Subject: Outbound SMTP connection >Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:31:10 +0000 > >Hi all, > >I have a ES v3 pre-insatlled on a DELL server. Somehow, I cannot >create any outbound smtp connections. This is what happen: > >[dumbkid at dsvr-1 t]$ telnet mx1.mail.yahoo.com smtp >Trying 67.28.113.10... > > >It just hangs. It does not matter which mail server I tried, same >result. I even tried disable the iptables "service iptables stop". > Same thing. So, any emails supposed to forward outside of the >company to @yahoo.com are all stucked in the mailq. > >I am wondering what could be preventing me from creating outbound >smtp connection? This is a fresh install. > >Thanks in advance. > >Tom > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe From wralphie at comcast.net Wed Apr 20 21:39:05 2005 From: wralphie at comcast.net (jludwig) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:39:05 -0400 Subject: uptime solution In-Reply-To: <4266851C.10601@vitalstream.com> References: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> <4266851C.10601@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200504201739.05376.wralphie@comcast.net> On Wednesday 20 April 2005 12:36 pm, Rick Stevens wrote: snip > Look at the man page for "rup", as there are some other options > available. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - NEWS FLASH! Intelligence of mankind decreasing! Details at... - > - uh, when, uh, the little hand is, uh, on the... Aw, NUTS! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In Linux I learn something new every day! -- John H Ludwig From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Wed Apr 20 22:09:19 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 01:09:19 +0300 Subject: More Spam? In-Reply-To: <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com> <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4266D30F.5020309@cha.forthnet.gr> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:16:52PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Jeff Kinz wrote: >> < snip > >>>FEATURE(`nocanonify') >>>FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') >> >>Jeff , isn't enabling the accept unresolvable domains >>Feature a door for spamming the server in question ? >>What would the sideeffects of that be ? > > > Rick and Kostas are both correct (except for .. see below). Well the only reason i posted that email publicly was because ( having read the bat book ) i was afraid that Rick would say what he did . The think is that his post wasn't available when i checked my email so i didn't see it on time . That's all . As for the rest , Rick has spoken Kind Regards, Kostas From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 22:27:38 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:27:38 -0700 Subject: More Spam? In-Reply-To: <4266D30F.5020309@cha.forthnet.gr> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com> <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> <4266D30F.5020309@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <4266D75A.4030009@vitalstream.com> Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Jeff Kinz wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 03:16:52PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>> Jeff Kinz wrote: >>> > > < snip > > >>>> FEATURE(`nocanonify') >>>> FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') >>> >>> >>> Jeff , isn't enabling the accept unresolvable domains >>> Feature a door for spamming the server in question ? >>> What would the sideeffects of that be ? >> >> >> >> Rick and Kostas are both correct (except for .. see below). > > > Well the only reason i posted that email publicly was because > ( having read the bat book ) i was afraid that Rick would say > what he did . The think is that his post wasn't available when i > checked my email so i didn't see it on time . > That's all . > > As for the rest , Rick has spoken Geeze! I'm not God...despite my own opinion of myself. In fact, if you ask most people, I'm the EXACT opposite! :-D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkinz at kinz.org Wed Apr 20 22:32:48 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:32:48 -0400 Subject: More Spam? In-Reply-To: <4266D75A.4030009@vitalstream.com>; from rstevens@vitalstream.com on Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 03:27:38PM -0700 References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com> <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> <4266D30F.5020309@cha.forthnet.gr> <4266D75A.4030009@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050420183248.A12692@redline.comcast.net> On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 03:27:38PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > > As for the rest , Rick has spoken > > Geeze! I'm not God...despite my own opinion of myself. In fact, if you > ask most people, I'm the EXACT opposite! :-D OK, everyone, henceforth Rick shall be known as "doG". ;) -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 22:37:39 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:37:39 -0700 Subject: More Spam? In-Reply-To: <20050420183248.A12692@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050415133835.A26981@redline.comcast.net> <426008FF.60101@vitalstream.com> <20050415162026.C25746@redline.comcast.net> <42602F38.2000901@vitalstream.com> <20050415203925.D25746@redline.comcast.net> <20050419145858.A15103@redline.comcast.net> <42658354.7070907@vitalstream.com> <20050419204822.A17347@redline.comcast.net> <4266D30F.5020309@cha.forthnet.gr> <4266D75A.4030009@vitalstream.com> <20050420183248.A12692@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4266D9B3.70304@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 03:27:38PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: >> >>>As for the rest , Rick has spoken >> >>Geeze! I'm not God...despite my own opinion of myself. In fact, if you >>ask most people, I'm the EXACT opposite! :-D > > > OK, everyone, henceforth Rick shall be known as "doG". ;) That's "doG, the Linux Fixer" to you guys. :-) And before you ask, I don't have a tattoo of Tux, my hair's shorter and I don't have a wife-- especially one that looks like his. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The moving cursor writes, and having written, blinks on. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 20 22:44:22 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:44:22 -0600 Subject: MP3 Message-ID: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have checked my system XMMS seems to be installed, but mp3 support may have been removed from my version of linux. It will play WAV files, but not mp3's. Does anybody know a good mp3 player that works with RHEL4 Thanks From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Apr 20 22:49:38 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Subject: School and Grades Message-ID: Just got midterm grades - looks like I need to block some IM and what ever else it is the kids are using on the internet but I still need to give them internet access for research. I'm running a LinkSys router to my cable - I believe I figured out how to block the whole access to the web by filtering the private IP range of 192.168.1.100 through 254 but is it possible to block the port IM uses (internet messinger and what ever else is being used)? I want to give them internet access but stop the IM. Also, does anyone know of a way to let them be on the internet from XX:XX to YY:YY with out my interventino using the LinkSys Switch? Thanks Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Wed Apr 20 23:07:16 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:07:16 +0300 Subject: MP3 In-Reply-To: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4266E0A4.6000404@cha.forthnet.gr> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have checked my system XMMS seems to be installed, but mp3 support may > have been removed from my version of linux. XMMS is installed and is working perfectly . The mp3 playback has been removed from the version supplied with Redhat Linux due to patent restrictions . It will play WAV files, but > not mp3's. Does anybody know a good mp3 player that works with RHEL4 XMMS . This time though go to xmms homepage ( www.xmms.org ) or go to dag.wieers.com/packages/xmms and get the apropriate rpm . > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 23:21:36 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:21:36 -0700 Subject: MP3 In-Reply-To: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4266E400.1060004@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have checked my system XMMS seems to be installed, but mp3 support may > have been removed from my version of linux. It will play WAV files, but > not mp3's. Does anybody know a good mp3 player that works with RHEL4 Assuming you have Dag's or RPMForge's repository in yum.conf, try "yum install xmms-mp3" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From smertens at mho.com Wed Apr 20 23:28:08 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:28:08 -0600 Subject: MP3 In-Reply-To: <4266E0A4.6000404@cha.forthnet.gr> References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4266E0A4.6000404@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <1114039688.4392.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 02:07 +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: > > I have checked my system XMMS seems to be installed, but mp3 support may > > have been removed from my version of linux. > > XMMS is installed and is working perfectly . The mp3 playback has been > removed > from the version supplied with Redhat Linux due to patent restrictions . > > It will play WAV files, but > > not mp3's. Does anybody know a good mp3 player that works with RHEL4 > > XMMS . This time though go to xmms homepage ( www.xmms.org ) or go to > dag.wieers.com/packages/xmms and get the apropriate rpm . I have checked out a few of these websites and found RPM's for Linux 8, 9 and FC. Nothing for RHEL4. > > > Thanks > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 23:32:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:32:37 -0700 Subject: School and Grades In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4266E695.3070509@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Just got midterm grades - looks like I need to block some IM and > what ever else it is the kids are using on the internet but I > still need to give them internet access for research. IRC runs on TCP/UDP port 6667, ICQ and AIM use TCP/UDP port 5190. > I'm running a LinkSys router to my cable - I believe I figured > out how to block the whole access to the web by filtering the > private IP range of 192.168.1.100 through 254 but is it possible > to block the port IM uses (internet messinger and what ever else > is being used)? I want to give them internet access but stop the > IM. Block incoming and outgoing activity on the above ports. > Also, does anyone know of a way to let them be on the internet > from XX:XX to YY:YY with out my interventino using the LinkSys > Switch? Look at the "Access Restrictions" tab of the Linksys setup screen. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 20 23:34:10 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:34:10 -0700 Subject: MP3 In-Reply-To: <1114039688.4392.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4266E0A4.6000404@cha.forthnet.gr> <1114039688.4392.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4266E6F2.1090704@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 02:07 +0300, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > >>Scott Mertens wrote: >> >>>I have checked my system XMMS seems to be installed, but mp3 support may >>>have been removed from my version of linux. >> >>XMMS is installed and is working perfectly . The mp3 playback has been >>removed >>from the version supplied with Redhat Linux due to patent restrictions . >> >> It will play WAV files, but >> >>>not mp3's. Does anybody know a good mp3 player that works with RHEL4 >> >>XMMS . This time though go to xmms homepage ( www.xmms.org ) or go to >>dag.wieers.com/packages/xmms and get the apropriate rpm . > > > I have checked out a few of these websites and found RPM's for Linux 8, > 9 and FC. Nothing for RHEL4. I think you can use the one for FC2. RHEL4 is based on FC2. You may need to do a forced install if the dependencies don't quite line up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards, you'll hear - - Satanic messages, but if you play it forwards, it will install - - Windows...which means Satan is in your system. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Apr 21 00:01:33 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:01:33 -0400 Subject: School and Grades Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC2DF311@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> You could put in your own proxy server. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 ________________________________ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Rick Stevens Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 7:32 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: School and Grades brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Just got midterm grades - looks like I need to block some IM and > what ever else it is the kids are using on the internet but I > still need to give them internet access for research. IRC runs on TCP/UDP port 6667, ICQ and AIM use TCP/UDP port 5190. > I'm running a LinkSys router to my cable - I believe I figured > out how to block the whole access to the web by filtering the > private IP range of 192.168.1.100 through 254 but is it possible > to block the port IM uses (internet messinger and what ever else > is being used)? I want to give them internet access but stop the > IM. Block incoming and outgoing activity on the above ports. > Also, does anyone know of a way to let them be on the internet > from XX:XX to YY:YY with out my interventino using the LinkSys > Switch? Look at the "Access Restrictions" tab of the Linksys setup screen. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From micros50 at computer.net Thu Apr 21 03:12:42 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:12:42 -0400 Subject: MP3 In-Reply-To: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1114053162.6726.25.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 18:44, Scott Mertens wrote: > I have checked my system XMMS seems to be installed, but mp3 support may > have been removed from my version of linux. It will play WAV files, but > not mp3's. Does anybody know a good mp3 player that works with RHEL4 > > Thanks > > Yes, "xmms" is an excellent mp3 player and I reccomend you try it. Go to "xmms.org" and download it with mp3 support. mylar > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Thu Apr 21 04:23:09 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:53:09 +0530 Subject: MP3 References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1114053162.6726.25.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: <001601c54629$d49894e0$260210ac@tivimnet> best player mplayer which fully guarentees , download rpm, install and enjoy! xmms has some problem , i too faced before. ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: mylar To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re: MP3 > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 18:44, Scott Mertens wrote: > > I have checked my system XMMS seems to be installed, but mp3 support may > > have been removed from my version of linux. It will play WAV files, but > > not mp3's. Does anybody know a good mp3 player that works with RHEL4 > > > > Thanks > > > > > Yes, "xmms" is an excellent mp3 player and I reccomend you try it. Go to > "xmms.org" and download it with mp3 support. > > mylar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 21 14:24:11 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:24:11 -0600 Subject: MP3 In-Reply-To: <4266E0A4.6000404@cha.forthnet.gr> References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4266E0A4.6000404@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <1114093451.14880.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Anybody know where XMMS keeps it's skins? I got XMMS working and playing MP3's, kind of a plain looking box so I thought I would download a few skins. I can use file roller to download, but not sure where to put them? From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 21 14:31:03 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:31:03 -0600 Subject: tmp folder Message-ID: <1114093863.14880.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Is the /tmp folder similar to one in Windoz? It should be emptied on reboot, or exit. Mine seems to have a lot in it, not sure if it is necessary or not? From mmcculli at visualtech.ca Thu Apr 21 13:45:20 2005 From: mmcculli at visualtech.ca (Mark McCulligh) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:45:20 -0400 Subject: uptime solution In-Reply-To: <200504201739.05376.wralphie@comcast.net> References: <00c901c54578$84cc49e0$260210ac@tivimnet> <4266851C.10601@vitalstream.com> <200504201739.05376.wralphie@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4267AE70.50601@visualtech.ca> On the topic of uptime, what is the best way to track your connection uptime. With a generator/UPS you can have a computer running 365 days a year, but your ISP/Network may not have the same uptime. Is there an open source package to track your overall uptime of your web server. I know there are companies like Vertain you can pay to ping your server and give you uptime reports. Mark. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Apr 21 15:23:13 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:23:13 -0700 Subject: School and Grades Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net [mailto:brad.mugleston at comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:50 PM > To: Red Hat Install > Subject: School and Grades > > Just got midterm grades - looks like I need to block some IM and > what ever else it is the kids are using on the internet but I > still need to give them internet access for research. While you will get good advice on how to do this. The energy will most likely be for not. There are web forums, web email, etc. that kids can use to talk on, just like IM. So if time wasted on the computer is the cause of bad grades, then maybe say no to the computers and make them go to a library. So unless you plan on blocking all web traffic, except for say the encyclopedia britanica. Your energy will probably be wasted. (Boy... do I look forward to this in the future after the twins are born.) From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Apr 21 16:02:33 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:02:33 -0400 Subject: School and Grades Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC01183205@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Well there is an alternative but it cost's money. You can but a network appliance (Websense) and out of the can it does a lot of blocking. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Waldher, Travis R > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:23 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: RE: School and Grades > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net [mailto:brad.mugleston at comcast.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:50 PM > > To: Red Hat Install > > Subject: School and Grades > > > > Just got midterm grades - looks like I need to block some > IM and what > > ever else it is the kids are using on the internet but I > still need to > > give them internet access for research. > > While you will get good advice on how to do this. The energy > will most likely be for not. > > There are web forums, web email, etc. that kids can use to > talk on, just like IM. So if time wasted on the computer is > the cause of bad grades, then maybe say no to the computers > and make them go to a library. > > So unless you plan on blocking all web traffic, except for > say the encyclopedia britanica. Your energy will probably be wasted. > > (Boy... do I look forward to this in the future after the twins are > born.) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 21 16:06:40 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:06:40 -0600 Subject: .bash_histoty Message-ID: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Is the .bash_history file a FIFO type file? I want to save some of the commands I have used so I don't forget them. I just want to be sure the file is not completely overwritten once it reaches it's capacity. Along that line, is it possible to increase the number of commands it remembers? With a 200 GIG HD, I'm not worried about it's size. Thanks From jkinz at kinz.org Thu Apr 21 16:14:53 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:14:53 -0400 Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>; from smertens@mho.com on Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 10:06:40AM -0600 References: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050421121453.A5033@redline.comcast.net> On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 10:06:40AM -0600, Scott Mertens wrote: > Is the .bash_history file a FIFO type file? I want to save some of the > commands I have used so I don't forget them. I just want to be sure the > file is not completely overwritten once it reaches it's capacity. Along > that line, is it possible to increase the number of commands it yes, you can increase the size of the file. Make a copy of the file ~/.bash_history and put it somewhere first The, in ~/.bash_profile put : HISTFILE="${HOME}/.bash_history" HISTSIZE=100000 HISTFILESIZE=100000 then logout and log back in (OR - source this file in every environment you have active or activate from now until you do logout and log back in, the first way is easier) PS, you don't have to make it 100000. You can make it bigger or smaller. -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 21 16:24:48 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:24:48 -0700 Subject: tmp folder In-Reply-To: <1114093863.14880.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114093863.14880.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4267D3D0.5020106@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > Is the /tmp folder similar to one in Windoz? It should be emptied on > reboot, or exit. Mine seems to have a lot in it, not sure if it is > necessary or not? It's similar. The GUI writes a lot of session info in there, as well as it being used for named pipes (FIFOs) for certain programs, keys and session info for ssh connections and what not. Also, your mail client will often put attachments there if you, say, open an attached spreadsheet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Silence! Or I shall replace you with a very small shell script! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gerrynix at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 16:25:52 2005 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050421162552.33754.qmail@web51904.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 10:06:40AM -0600, Scott Mertens wrote: > > Is the .bash_history file a FIFO type file? I want to save some of the > > commands I have used so I don't forget them. I just want to be sure the > > file is not completely overwritten once it reaches it's capacity. Along > > that line, is it possible to increase the number of commands it > > yes, you can increase the size of the file. > > Make a copy of the file ~/.bash_history and put it somewhere first > > The, in ~/.bash_profile put : > > HISTFILE="${HOME}/.bash_history" > HISTSIZE=100000 > HISTFILESIZE=100000 > > then logout and log back in (OR - source this file in > every environment you have active or activate from now until > you do logout and log back in, the first way is easier) > > PS, you don't have to make it 100000. You can make it bigger or > smaller. > > -- > Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. > You may also be interested in the script command for saving part of, or an entire login session. -- Nix > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From smertens at mho.com Thu Apr 21 16:29:19 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:29:19 -0600 Subject: .bash_histoty Message-ID: <1114100959.3856.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> >yes, you can increase the size of the file. >Make a copy of the file ~/.bash_history and put it somewhere first >The, in ~/.bash_profile put : >HISTFILE="${HOME}/.bash_history" >HISTSIZE=100000 >HISTFILESIZE=100000 >then logout and log back in (OR - source this file in >every environment you have active or activate from now until >you do logout and log back in, the first way is easier) >PS, you don't have to make it 100000. You can make it bigger or >smaller. Thanks, is the 1000000 a byte count for the file, or number of commands it stores? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 21 16:42:59 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:42:59 -0700 Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4267D813.5030700@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > Is the .bash_history file a FIFO type file? I want to save some of the > commands I have used so I don't forget them. I just want to be sure the > file is not completely overwritten once it reaches it's capacity. Along > that line, is it possible to increase the number of commands it > remembers? With a 200 GIG HD, I'm not worried about it's size. Technically, the history command is a LIFO (last in-first out) and it's implemented as a ring buffer (when it's full, the oldest command is dropped to make room for the new command). Now, as to ~/.bash_history...it's just a file. Its purpose is to save the current "history" ring buffer when your interactive shell exits so it can be restored when the shell is restarted. Changing its size won't affect your history list as it's wiped out and rewritten when the shell terminates. If you want more history commands, you have to bugger the HISTSIZE environment variable to change the size of the history command's ring buffer. The file is overwritten (or created if missing) and will be whatever size is needed to save that ring buffer when the interactive shell exits. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkinz at kinz.org Thu Apr 21 17:12:32 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:12:32 -0400 Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: <1114100959.3856.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>; from smertens@mho.com on Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 10:29:19AM -0600 References: <1114100959.3856.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050421131232.B12692@redline.comcast.net> On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 10:29:19AM -0600, Scott Mertens wrote: > >PS, you don't have to make it 100000. You can make it bigger or > >smaller. > > Thanks, is the 1000000 a byte count for the file, or number of commands it stores? Do a "man bash" then search for HISTSIZE - it will tell you about all three of these environment variables. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From fruiz at tsitrucks.com Thu Apr 21 20:31:09 2005 From: fruiz at tsitrucks.com (Francisco Ruiz) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:31:09 -0500 Subject: FW: Mounted share. Message-ID: <005b01c546b1$0de27db0$1b08a8c0@dallas69> Hello People! I have a SCO box running Vision FS with 4 shares. I can mount from a rh8.0 all four of those shares and list the contents of each, but one. The one I'm having trouble listing can be mounted with no problem. When I go to list a single file or all files in that share my RH8.o system just sits there. What can I look for. The only difference between this share and the others is that this share is not browsable meaning any one with access right can rwx to it but can not browse it for the for example through the network hood in windows. F,Ruiz. Data Systems Administrator. Transportation Services Inc. Phone (972)288-8397 X35 Fax (972)289-8410 email:fruiz at tsitrucks.com From diogenes at xenodochy.org Thu Apr 21 20:42:17 2005 From: diogenes at xenodochy.org (Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr.) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:42:17 -0400 Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: <4267D813.5030700@vitalstream.com> References: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4267D813.5030700@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:42:59 -0400, Rick Stevens wrote: > Scott Mertens wrote: >> Is the .bash_history file a FIFO type file? I want to save some of the >> commands I have used so I don't forget them. I just want to be sure the >> file is not completely overwritten once it reaches it's capacity. Along >> that line, is it possible to increase the number of commands it >> remembers? With a 200 GIG HD, I'm not worried about it's size. > > Technically, the history command is a LIFO (last in-first out) and it's > implemented as a ring buffer (when it's full, the oldest command is > dropped to make room for the new command). > > Now, as to ~/.bash_history...it's just a file. Its purpose is to save > the current "history" ring buffer when your interactive shell exits so > it can be restored when the shell is restarted. Changing its size won't > affect your history list as it's wiped out and rewritten when the shell > terminates. > > If you want more history commands, you have to bugger the HISTSIZE > environment variable to change the size of the history command's ring > buffer. The file is overwritten (or created if missing) and will be > whatever size is needed to save that ring buffer when the interactive > shell exits. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it possible to alter the functioning of bash_history? I would like to see a duplicate entry treated as follows: Bring it to the bottom (deleting the prior entry) So that the "adjusted" history has a list of commands, without duplicates, in the order that they were last used. Is it possible to "hack" this functionality in in some way? -- Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. http://www.xenodochy.org/ralph.html 191 White Oaks Road Williamstown, MA 01267-2259 Phone: 413-458-3597 Home pages: http://www.xenodochy.org http://www.ballroomdances.org ------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM http://www.xenodochy.org/diogenes/antispam.html (If you are thinking about collecting my email address, read the above page first!) -------------------------------------------------------- Keep our semantic environments and cyberspace clean. Always report errors discovered while surfing the web. ------------------------------------------------------ My favorite saying (from general semantics): It's not that seeing is believing, believing is seeing, and we're much better at believing than we are at seeing. http://www.xenodochy.org/ex/quotes/santayana.html From gerrynix at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 21:07:29 2005 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050421210729.55602.qmail@web51901.mail.yahoo.com> --- "Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr." wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:42:59 -0400, Rick Stevens > wrote: > > > Scott Mertens wrote: > >> Is the .bash_history file a FIFO type file? I want to save some of the > >> commands I have used so I don't forget them. I just want to be sure the > >> file is not completely overwritten once it reaches it's capacity. Along > >> that line, is it possible to increase the number of commands it > >> remembers? With a 200 GIG HD, I'm not worried about it's size. > > > > Technically, the history command is a LIFO (last in-first out) and it's > > implemented as a ring buffer (when it's full, the oldest command is > > dropped to make room for the new command). > > > > Now, as to ~/.bash_history...it's just a file. Its purpose is to save > > the current "history" ring buffer when your interactive shell exits so > > it can be restored when the shell is restarted. Changing its size won't > > affect your history list as it's wiped out and rewritten when the shell > > terminates. > > > > If you want more history commands, you have to bugger the HISTSIZE > > environment variable to change the size of the history command's ring > > buffer. The file is overwritten (or created if missing) and will be > > whatever size is needed to save that ring buffer when the interactive > > shell exits. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > > - - > > - Huked on foniks reely wurked for me! - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Is it possible to alter the functioning of bash_history? > > I would like to see a duplicate entry treated as follows: > > Bring it to the bottom (deleting the prior entry) > > So that the "adjusted" history has a list of commands, without duplicates, > in the order that they were last used. > > Is it possible to "hack" this functionality in in some way? Add the following lines to your ~/.bash_profile HISTCONTROL=ignoredups # obvious what this does HISTIGNORE=pwd:date:ls # edit the command names to suit export HISTCONTROL HISTIGNORE Note: HISTIGNORE is followed by a colon separated list of command names that you do NOT want to save to your .bash_history at all. Keeps the history file a little neater and cleaner. -- Nix > > -- > Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. > http://www.xenodochy.org/ralph.html > 191 White Oaks Road > Williamstown, MA 01267-2259 > Phone: 413-458-3597 > > Home pages: > http://www.xenodochy.org > http://www.ballroomdances.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > FIGHT SPAM http://www.xenodochy.org/diogenes/antispam.html > (If you are thinking about collecting my email address, read the above > page first!) > -------------------------------------------------------- > Keep our semantic environments and cyberspace clean. > Always report errors discovered while surfing the web. > ------------------------------------------------------ > My favorite saying (from general semantics): > It's not that seeing is believing, believing is seeing, > and we're much better at believing than we are at seeing. > http://www.xenodochy.org/ex/quotes/santayana.html > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From stuart at sjsears.com Thu Apr 21 21:09:30 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:09:30 +0100 Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: References: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4267D813.5030700@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1114117770.12301.4.camel@rhlaptop.absolutelyplastered.com> On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 16:42 -0400, Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. wrote: > Is it possible to alter the functioning of bash_history? > > I would like to see a duplicate entry treated as follows: > > Bring it to the bottom (deleting the prior entry) > > So that the "adjusted" history has a list of commands, without duplicates, > in the order that they were last used. > > Is it possible to "hack" this functionality in in some way? hacking is not really needed - bash has similar functionality built in. man bash (and a bit of judicious searching) gives... HISTCONTROL A colon-separated list of values controlling how commands are saved on the history list. If the list of values includes ignorespace, lines which begin with a space character are not saved in the history list. A value of ignoredups causes lines matching the previous history entry to not be saved. A value of ignoreboth is shorthand for ignorespace and ignoredups. A value of erasedups causes all previous lines matching the current line to be removed from the history list before that line is saved. Any value not in the above list is ignored. If HISTCONTROL is unset, or does not include a valid value, all lines read by the shell parser are saved on the history list, subject to the value of HISTIGNORE. The second and subsequent lines of a multi-line compound command are not tested, and are added to the history regardless of the value of HISTCONTROL. export HISTCONTROL=erasedups in your ~/.bash_profile should do the trick (or something very much like it) HTH Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX RTFM From diogenes at xenodochy.org Fri Apr 22 01:12:28 2005 From: diogenes at xenodochy.org (Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr.) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:12:28 -0400 Subject: .bash_histoty In-Reply-To: <1114117770.12301.4.camel@rhlaptop.absolutelyplastered.com> References: <1114099600.3759.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4267D813.5030700@vitalstream.com> <1114117770.12301.4.camel@rhlaptop.absolutelyplastered.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:09:30 -0400, Stuart Sears wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 16:42 -0400, Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. wrote: >> Is it possible to alter the functioning of bash_history? >> >> I would like to see a duplicate entry treated as follows: >> >> Bring it to the bottom (deleting the prior entry) >> >> So that the "adjusted" history has a list of commands, without >> duplicates, >> in the order that they were last used. >> >> Is it possible to "hack" this functionality in in some way? > hacking is not really needed - bash has similar functionality built in. > > man bash (and a bit of judicious searching) gives... > HISTCONTROL > A colon-separated list of values controlling how commands are saved on > the history list. If the list of values includes ignorespace, lines > which begin with a space character are not saved in the history list. A > value of ignoredups causes lines matching the previous history entry to > not be saved. A value of ignoreboth is shorthand for ignorespace and > ignoredups. A value of erasedups causes all previous lines matching the > current line to be removed from the history list before that line is > saved. Any value not in the above list is ignored. If HISTCONTROL is > unset, or does not include a valid value, all lines read by the shell > parser are saved on the history list, subject to the value of > HISTIGNORE. The second and subsequent lines of a multi-line compound > command are not tested, and are added to the history regardless of the > value of HISTCONTROL. > > export HISTCONTROL=erasedups > in your ~/.bash_profile should do the trick (or something very much like > it) > > HTH > > Stuart > -- > Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX RTFM Thanks, Stuart, It looks lie Redhat 9 does not support erasedups -- Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. http://www.xenodochy.org/ralph.html 191 White Oaks Road Williamstown, MA 01267-2259 Phone: 413-458-3597 Home pages: http://www.xenodochy.org http://www.ballroomdances.org ------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM http://www.xenodochy.org/diogenes/antispam.html (If you are thinking about collecting my email address, read the above page first!) -------------------------------------------------------- Keep our semantic environments and cyberspace clean. Always report errors discovered while surfing the web. ------------------------------------------------------ My favorite saying (from general semantics): It's not that seeing is believing, believing is seeing, and we're much better at believing than we are at seeing. http://www.xenodochy.org/ex/quotes/santayana.html From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Fri Apr 22 03:32:01 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:32:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: School and Grades In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > While you will get good advice on how to do this. The energy will most > likely be for not. > > There are web forums, web email, etc. that kids can use to talk on, just > like IM. So if time wasted on the computer is the cause of bad grades, > then maybe say no to the computers and make them go to a library. > > So unless you plan on blocking all web traffic, except for say the > encyclopedia britanica. Your energy will probably be wasted. > > (Boy... do I look forward to this in the future after the twins are > born.) > Congratulatiaons on the TWINS - it will be wonderful. I'm taking the blocking all the web traffic approach. They have normal programs that they can use but can't get out of the house but they have access to the better printers over the network but that's about it. I do trust them, they are good but they just have too many temptations to divert them from their studies. The boy is into games but just playing against himself or the computer isn't any fun any more - without the net it's no fun so no problems there. The daughter - remended for Honors math last year is having a problem keeping up this year. IM seems to be her vice, she is trying to adjust. Good luck with the twins, just try to stay one day ahead of them and you'll be fine - no twins here but 5 kids and one grandson. Brad From micros50 at computer.net Fri Apr 22 14:50:05 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:50:05 -0400 Subject: MP3 In-Reply-To: <1114093451.14880.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114037062.4392.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4266E0A4.6000404@cha.forthnet.gr> <1114093451.14880.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1114181404.6734.36.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 10:24, Scott Mertens wrote: > Anybody know where XMMS keeps it's skins? I got XMMS working and > playing MP3's, kind of a plain looking box so I thought I would download > a few skins. I can use file roller to download, but not sure where to > put them? > Wherever you installed xmms there is usually a subdirectory called "Skins". That's where they go. For each user who runs xmms there is usually a hidden .xmms directory containing configuration information. Under that there is also a subdirectory called "Skins". You can also put them there in which case they will only be available to that particular user. mylar > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 22 16:16:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:16:31 -0700 Subject: FW: Mounted share. In-Reply-To: <005b01c546b1$0de27db0$1b08a8c0@dallas69> References: <005b01c546b1$0de27db0$1b08a8c0@dallas69> Message-ID: <4269235F.1010907@vitalstream.com> Francisco Ruiz wrote: > Hello People! I have a SCO box running Vision FS with 4 shares. I can > mount from a rh8.0 all four of those shares and list the contents of > each, but one. The one I'm having trouble listing can be mounted with > no problem. When I go to list a single file or all files in that share > my RH8.o system just sits there. What can I look for. The only > difference between this share and the others is that this share is not > browsable meaning any one with access right can rwx to it but can not > browse it for the for example through the network hood in windows. Then the user you've mounted it as also can't search it. If a share is not browsable, then the user who's trying to look at it must authenticate to the server somehow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fruiz at tsitrucks.com Fri Apr 22 16:39:48 2005 From: fruiz at tsitrucks.com (Francisco Ruiz) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:39:48 -0500 Subject: FW: Mounted share. In-Reply-To: <4269235F.1010907@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <005201c54759$e65e5350$1b08a8c0@dallas69> -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:17 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: FW: Mounted share. Francisco Ruiz wrote: > Hello People! I have a SCO box running Vision FS with 4 shares. I can > mount from a rh8.0 all four of those shares and list the contents of > each, but one. The one I'm having trouble listing can be mounted with > no problem. When I go to list a single file or all files in that > share my RH8.o system just sits there. What can I look for. The only > difference between this share and the others is that this share is not > browsable meaning any one with access right can rwx to it but can not > browse it for the for example through the network hood in windows. Then the user you've mounted it as also can't search it. If a share is not browsable, then the user who's trying to look at it must authenticate to the server somehow. I set the share with rwx to all users that authenticate. I have mounted the share with the credentials of a user who has all these rights as well. On a win PC the share is not visible in the net hood, but I can map a drive to it and I go to "MY Computer" on the desktop I am able to list, browse and do what ever I want. How is mounting a drive in Linux and mapping a drive in windows different? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Apr 22 19:36:31 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:36:31 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted [user at host /tmp]$ That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to change ownership on files. I heard there is a system setting that can be changed to make this work, but I haven't been able to find it. Thanks, Travis From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Fri Apr 22 19:39:33 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:39:33 -0400 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC011833E9@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> What are the current owner ship and permission's of the file? Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Waldher, Travis R > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:37 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: can't change ownership on files > > [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test > chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted > [user at host /tmp]$ > > That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to > change ownership on files. > > I heard there is a system setting that can be changed to make > this work, but I haven't been able to find it. > > Thanks, > Travis > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Apr 22 20:20:06 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:20:06 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Smith, Albert [mailto:Albert.Smith at genexservices.com] > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:40 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: RE: can't change ownership on files > > What are the current owner ship and permission's of the file? > > Albert Smith > Sr. Unix Systems Administrator > HPCSA, RHCT > Genex Services > 440 E. Swedesford Rd. > Wayne, PA 19087 > albert.smith at genexservices.com > (610) 964-5154 Doesn't matter, it could be 777 and you still can't. The error is not a permission denied error, its an operation not permitted error. My understanding, is that by default, only root can do a chown/chgrp command. Ordinary users cannot. My users need to, and I'de rather not be giving out root rights. ;) From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 22 20:24:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:24:29 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42695D7D.4080606@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test > chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted > [user at host /tmp]$ > > That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to change > ownership on files. You defeat the purpose of permissions if you allow anyone to change ownership of a file. That's normally reserved for root or the original owner of the file, and it's inherent in the "w" part of the permissions. > I heard there is a system setting that can be changed to make this work, > but I haven't been able to find it. I think what you're looking for is the "umask". You can change the umask value in the shell to set the default permissions for any file that's created by that shell. The umask is exclusive ORed with 777 to set the permissions. For mortal users, it's set to "002" by default--meaning that files will be created with 775 (rwxrwxr-x) permissions (777 XOR 002 = 775). If you want to permit "others" to change ownership and such, edit the user's .bashrc or whatever and do "umask 000". That means that user will create files with default 777 (rwxrwxrwx) permissions. Again, you've eliminated any security on that file, so unless you have a desparate need, DON'T DO IT. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Apr 22 20:52:05 2005 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:52:05 -0500 Subject: can't change ownership on files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4/22/05, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test > chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted > [user at host /tmp]$ > > That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to change > ownership on files. There are so many dangers to allowing this power to non-root users. Quota becomes meaningless if file ownership can be repudiated by the user creating the files, users can create nasty suid programs and then make them owned by root (on some systems where non-root users can chown files this isn't allowed but you are giving away the farm if it is), and on and on and on. > I heard there is a system setting that can be changed to make this work, > but I haven't been able to find it. Solaris has the rstchown flag that controls this. I'm not aware of any similar flag in RHEL and personally would avoid it like the plague if it were available. Perhaps someone could find a different solution to your problem if you could describe why you feel the need to give non-root users this ability?! John From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Apr 22 22:23:02 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:23:02 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:24 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test > > chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted > > [user at host /tmp]$ > > > > That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to change > > ownership on files. > > You defeat the purpose of permissions if you allow anyone to change > ownership of a file. That's normally reserved for root or the original > owner of the file, and it's inherent in the "w" part of the permissions. Ok, I wasn't clear. I as the owner owner can't change the ownership of my own files: [user at host /]$ whoami user [user at host /]$ cd /tmp [user at host /tmp]$ touch test [user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test -rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted [user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test -rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test [user at host /tmp]$ I should be able to change the ownership of my own files without being root. Correct? No.. I don't want to give just anyone the ability to change ownership of any file. That would be bad. I agree. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 22 22:39:53 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:39:53 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42697D39.8030702@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:24 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>[user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test >>>chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted >>>[user at host /tmp]$ >>> >>>That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to change >>>ownership on files. >> >>You defeat the purpose of permissions if you allow anyone to change >>ownership of a file. That's normally reserved for root or the > > original > >>owner of the file, and it's inherent in the "w" part of the > > permissions. > > Ok, I wasn't clear. > > I as the owner owner can't change the ownership of my own files: > > [user at host /]$ whoami > user > [user at host /]$ cd /tmp > [user at host /tmp]$ touch test > [user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test > -rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test > [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test > chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted > [user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test > -rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test > [user at host /tmp]$ > > I should be able to change the ownership of my own files without being > root. Correct? Actually, in Linux, no. Changing owners and groups is restricted to root only. IRIX and Solaris have work arounds, but not in Linux. My mistake. You could permit it in sudo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Apr 22 22:46:04 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:46:04 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:40 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > >>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:24 PM > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files > >> > >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> > >>>[user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test > >>>chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted > >>>[user at host /tmp]$ > >>> > >>>That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to change > >>>ownership on files. > >> > >>You defeat the purpose of permissions if you allow anyone to change > >>ownership of a file. That's normally reserved for root or the > > > > original > > > >>owner of the file, and it's inherent in the "w" part of the > > > > permissions. > > > > Ok, I wasn't clear. > > > > I as the owner owner can't change the ownership of my own files: > > > > [user at host /]$ whoami > > user > > [user at host /]$ cd /tmp > > [user at host /tmp]$ touch test > > [user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test > > [user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test > > chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted > > [user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test > > [user at host /tmp]$ > > > > I should be able to change the ownership of my own files without being > > root. Correct? > > Actually, in Linux, no. Changing owners and groups is restricted to > root only. IRIX and Solaris have work arounds, but not in Linux. My > mistake. > > You could permit it in sudo. Ew... Beyond that there is not hack/tweak I can make? Sudo would basically open up chown/chgrp for any file on local disk, and any filesystem that is mounted with root level access. Correct? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 22 23:36:04 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:36:04 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42698A64.6060703@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:40 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>>>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:24 PM >>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files >>>> >>>>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>[user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test >>>>>chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted >>>>>[user at host /tmp]$ >>>>> >>>>>That about sums it up. I need non-root users to be able to change >>>>>ownership on files. >>>> >>>>You defeat the purpose of permissions if you allow anyone to change >>>>ownership of a file. That's normally reserved for root or the >>> >>>original >>> >>> >>>>owner of the file, and it's inherent in the "w" part of the >>> >>>permissions. >>> >>>Ok, I wasn't clear. >>> >>>I as the owner owner can't change the ownership of my own files: >>> >>>[user at host /]$ whoami >>>user >>>[user at host /]$ cd /tmp >>>[user at host /tmp]$ touch test >>>[user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test >>>-rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test >>>[user at host /tmp]$ chown user2 test >>>chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted >>>[user at host /tmp]$ ls -al test >>>-rw-rw-r-- 1 user unixadm 0 Apr 22 15:20 test >>>[user at host /tmp]$ >>> >>>I should be able to change the ownership of my own files without > > being > >>>root. Correct? >> >>Actually, in Linux, no. Changing owners and groups is restricted to >>root only. IRIX and Solaris have work arounds, but not in Linux. My >>mistake. >> >>You could permit it in sudo. > > > Ew... > > Beyond that there is not hack/tweak I can make? > > Sudo would basically open up chown/chgrp for any file on local disk, and > any filesystem that is mounted with root level access. Correct? Yup. You still haven't said why they need to chown a file. There is virtually never a good reason to allow that. If people need to share a file, make them all part of the same group and grant rwx group to each file or, alternately, allow the users to join other groups by putting their usernames in /etc/group or allowing the "newgrp" command. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Cuteness can be overcome through sufficient bastardry - - --Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Sat Apr 23 00:24:23 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:24:23 -0400 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC01183411@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> I don't recommend doing this because it makes your system vulnerable to changes. Before you implement this I would install a filesystem audit tool to track permission changes and such. With that being said. Add the sticky bit to (chmod u=rwxs) /bin/chown this will allow the process to run as root instead of the user running the process and enable to change the ownership of files to whoever they like with no checks. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Waldher, Travis R > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:20 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: RE: can't change ownership on files > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Smith, Albert [mailto:Albert.Smith at genexservices.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:40 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: RE: can't change ownership on files > > > > What are the current owner ship and permission's of the file? > > > > Albert Smith > > Sr. Unix Systems Administrator > > HPCSA, RHCT > > Genex Services > > 440 E. Swedesford Rd. > > Wayne, PA 19087 > > albert.smith at genexservices.com > > (610) 964-5154 > > Doesn't matter, it could be 777 and you still can't. The > error is not a permission denied error, its an operation not > permitted error. > > My understanding, is that by default, only root can do a > chown/chgrp command. Ordinary users cannot. > > My users need to, and I'de rather not be giving out root rights. ;) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From anjou_xia at 21cn.com Sat Apr 23 03:44:52 2005 From: anjou_xia at 21cn.com (anjou_xia) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:44:52 +0800 Subject: how to install rh8 in w2000 computer without flopy and cd-rom driver Message-ID: I have a rh8 in my hard disk.and the system file format is NTFS,how should I install it in my computer without floppy and cd-rom driver. any remendation will be appreciated. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Sun Apr 24 02:19:24 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:19:24 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:36 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files > > > > > > Ew... > > > > Beyond that there is not hack/tweak I can make? > > > > Sudo would basically open up chown/chgrp for any file on local disk, and > > any filesystem that is mounted with root level access. Correct? > > Yup. You still haven't said why they need to chown a file. There is > virtually never a good reason to allow that. > > If people need to share a file, make them all part of the same group and > grant rwx group to each file or, alternately, allow the users to join > other groups by putting their usernames in /etc/group or allowing the > "newgrp" command. Well, lets just say that's the way it's always been. I'm picking other battles at the moment and am not ready to attack something like this. But one example where at least some people need this. Is version control When a piece of software is "locked" down, they change the user and group from whomever was working it, to a control user and group name consisting of the Configuration Management person. I as an admin do not care to get in the middle of that process, or grant them the ability to change ownership of files at a root leval through sudo. From akumar118 at rediffmail.com Sun Apr 24 10:37:28 2005 From: akumar118 at rediffmail.com (Arvind Kumar) Date: 24 Apr 2005 10:37:28 -0000 Subject: Hlp on configng linus. Message-ID: <20050424103728.2616.qmail@webmail49.rediffmail.com> ? I am new to Linux I want to connect to internet through redhat linux can any one help me. ASrvnd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akumar118 at rediffmail.com Sun Apr 24 10:37:28 2005 From: akumar118 at rediffmail.com (Arvind Kumar) Date: 24 Apr 2005 10:37:28 -0000 Subject: Hlp on configng linus. Message-ID: <20050424103728.26799.qmail@webmail17.rediffmail.com> ? I am new to Linux I want to connect to internet through redhat linux can any one help me. ASrvnd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smertens at mho.com Sun Apr 24 14:33:18 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:33:18 -0600 Subject: Down and dirty dump Message-ID: <1114353198.14588.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a need to move my RHEL4 computer across the country. I am driving with it, and currently I have not set up a backup process. I would like to maybe do a dump just as a precaution. I have two 200 GIG HD's on the system, the second one is not in use at the moment, but I can mount it no problem. Can someone give me a command line to dump one drive to another? Assume the first drive is SDA, and the second one to dump to is SDB? I guess the other question is does the LV on SDA get copied as well? I know there is a man page on dump, but I must not be typing the command correctly, so once I have the command to type, I can re-look up the man pages and see what it all means. Thanks From wralphie at comcast.net Sun Apr 24 15:52:56 2005 From: wralphie at comcast.net (jludwig) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:52:56 -0400 Subject: Down and dirty dump In-Reply-To: <1114353198.14588.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114353198.14588.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200504241152.57150.wralphie@comcast.net> On Sunday 24 April 2005 10:33 am, Scott Mertens wrote: > I have a need to move my RHEL4 computer across the country. I am > driving with it, and currently I have not set up a backup process. I > would like to maybe do a dump just as a precaution. I have two 200 GIG > HD's on the system, the second one is not in use at the moment, but I > can mount it no problem. > > Can someone give me a command line to dump one drive to another? Assume > the first drive is SDA, and the second one to dump to is SDB? I guess > the other question is does the LV on SDA get copied as well? > > I know there is a man page on dump, but I must not be typing the command > correctly, so once I have the command to type, I can re-look up the man > pages and see what it all means. > > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe If I remember correctly (Check before using). 1) dd -if /dev/sda? -of /dev/sdb? -- John H Ludwig Common sense is so rare, why do they call it common!!! Manual customization of this file is not recommended, BUT WILL BE DONE!!! From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Apr 24 20:02:57 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:02:57 -0500 Subject: Hlp on configng linus. In-Reply-To: <20050424103728.2616.qmail@webmail49.rediffmail.com> References: <20050424103728.2616.qmail@webmail49.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <20050424200257.GB14553@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 10:37:28AM -0000, Arvind Kumar wrote: > ? > I am new to Linux I want to connect to internet through redhat linux can any one help me. > ASrvnd We need more information. What version of RedHat? What kind of connection do you want? PPP (dial-in)? DSL? ISDN? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best things in life aren't things. From yanpeng at mx.cei.gov.cn Mon Apr 25 08:43:40 2005 From: yanpeng at mx.cei.gov.cn (=?gb2312?B?48bF9CAoIFlhbiBQZW5nICk=?=) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:43:40 +0800 Subject: How to set squid to authenticate by username/password on RH platform? Message-ID: <200504251000.j3PA0aYj000796@mx3.redhat.com> redhat-install-list: I have set the parameters in the squid.conf as the below: auth_param basic program /home2/squid-2.5/libexec/ncsa_auth /home2/squid-2.5/etc/passwd auth_param basic children 5 acl password proxy_auth REQUIRED http_access allow password And I compiled and installed ncsa_auth in the directory of "/home2/squid-2.5/libexec" Then I start the squid daemon process by the command: squid -D I have set my IE visit INTERNET through this Squid proxy server, But it didn't work and there was not window poped to require username/password. What should I do now? By the way , how do I stop the squid daemon process except by kill? Many thanks. Yan Peng yanpeng at mx.cei.gov.cn 2005-04-25 From akelly at transparency.org Mon Apr 25 10:06:32 2005 From: akelly at transparency.org (Andrew Kelly) Date: 25 Apr 2005 12:06:32 +0200 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video In-Reply-To: <426540A7.3080009@vitalstream.com> References: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> <426540A7.3080009@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1114423592.4317.49.camel@hermes.at.home> On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 19:32, Rick Stevens wrote: [a lot of very helpful information] Thanks, Rick, I really appreciate your efforts. At the risk of you and I building two layers of middlemen, I'll have "the people in need" at my end contact your sales people directly. Andy From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Apr 25 15:48:17 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:48:17 -0700 Subject: rdate, in.timed, and ntpd Message-ID: Ok, from what I have gathered, ntpd is the preferred method over the in.timed/rdate combination. I have some QNX machines that use the rdate command, I don't see NTP anywhere on them. Is there harm in running in.timed and ntpd at the same time on my servers so some of the clients can stay synced up? Thanks, Travis From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Apr 25 15:52:26 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:52:26 -0700 Subject: how to install rh8 in w2000 computer without flopy and cd-rom driver Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: anjou_xia [mailto:anjou_xia at 21cn.com] > Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 8:45 PM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: how to install rh8 in w2000 computer without flopy and cd-rom > driver > > I have a rh8 in my hard disk.and the system file format is NTFS,how should > I install it in my computer without floppy and cd-rom driver. > any remendation will be appreciated. I would recommend getting a cd-rom drive. Personally, I'm not sure how you would go about doing that as you have to boot to CD1 or a floppy (I assume) to get to CD1. From smertens at mho.com Mon Apr 25 16:35:01 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:35:01 -0600 Subject: rsync syntax question Message-ID: <1114446901.3715.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have been told that rsync is much better than dump to copy one drive to another. I want to copy sda and sda1 to sdb Both drives on one RHEL4 machine. I thought I would use the syntax of "rsync -avz / /mnt/Backup" Hers is a problem I'm thinking about, /mnt/Backup is a second drive mounted (SDB). I am thinking that as rsync copies the tree - when it gets to the mounted drive it is copying from /mnt/Backup to /mnt/Backup. This it seems to me would put rsync into an infinite loop? This second drive is only for backup purposes, so if it can be excluded from being backed up, thats OK. Does the syntax look OK, and will it copy both sda and sda1? Thanks From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 16:44:59 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:44:59 -0700 Subject: how to install rh8 in w2000 computer without flopy and cd-rom driver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <426D1E8B.4090709@vitalstream.com> anjou_xia wrote: > I have a rh8 in my hard disk.and the system file format is NTFS,how should I install it in my computer without floppy and cd-rom driver. > any remendation will be appreciated. That is virtually impossible. You must boot Linux somehow to do the installation and you have no removable media. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Tempt not the dragons of fate, since thou art crunchy and taste - - good with ketchup. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 16:54:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:54:27 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <426D20C3.1040203@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:36 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files >> >>> >>>Ew... >>> >>>Beyond that there is not hack/tweak I can make? >>> >>>Sudo would basically open up chown/chgrp for any file on local disk, > > and > >>>any filesystem that is mounted with root level access. Correct? >> >>Yup. You still haven't said why they need to chown a file. There is >>virtually never a good reason to allow that. >> >>If people need to share a file, make them all part of the same group > > and > >>grant rwx group to each file or, alternately, allow the users to join >>other groups by putting their usernames in /etc/group or allowing the >>"newgrp" command. > > > Well, lets just say that's the way it's always been. I'm picking other > battles at the moment and am not ready to attack something like this. That doesn't make it right and it's dangerous to boot. "that's the way we've always done it" is a totally invalid argument when it comes to security. > But one example where at least some people need this. Is version > control When a piece of software is "locked" down, they change the user > and group from whomever was working it, to a control user and group name > consisting of the Configuration Management person. That is what CVS, bitkeeper, SourceSafe (windows) and several other version control systems are designed to do, Travis. You know, "check in", "check out", etc. Works flawlessly, tracks changes permitting regression, controlled releases, the works. There is no need to change ownership of files or anything of the nature. In fact, I prefer using a remote CVS machine (you know, a "cvs :pserver:") to archive the code. > I as an admin do not care to get in the middle of that process, or grant > them the ability to change ownership of files at a root leval through > sudo. Then they're stuck. You, as the admin, are ultimately responsible for the security and management of the system and the users' files. As such, YOU set the rules. chowning files is NOT a solution. You must enforce the use of a true versioning system. I mean, geeze. RCS (revision control system--the predecessor to CVS) was written in the 1970s, for gawd's sake. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - God is real...........unless declared integer or long - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 17:07:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:07:29 -0700 Subject: Down and dirty dump In-Reply-To: <1114353198.14588.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114353198.14588.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <426D23D1.7050204@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have a need to move my RHEL4 computer across the country. I am > driving with it, and currently I have not set up a backup process. I > would like to maybe do a dump just as a precaution. I have two 200 GIG > HD's on the system, the second one is not in use at the moment, but I > can mount it no problem. > > Can someone give me a command line to dump one drive to another? Assume > the first drive is SDA, and the second one to dump to is SDB? I guess > the other question is does the LV on SDA get copied as well? If you use "dd if=/dev/sdax of=/dev/sdbx" and make sure that the target partition is the same size or larger than the source partition, you should be OK. You should make hard copies of the "lvdisplay" output, just in case you need to recover it. > I know there is a man page on dump, but I must not be typing the command > correctly, so once I have the command to type, I can re-look up the man > pages and see what it all means. Dump is really intended to do a low-level dump of the filesystem to tape. It's cryptic and I don't recommend you do it. If you have a CD-R or DVD-R, you may want to think about tarring up the filesystems, splitting the resulting tar files into CD- or DVD-sized chunks and burning them to CD or DVD...just for some added protection. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "If you can't fix it...duct tape it!" - Tim Allen - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 17:10:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:10:08 -0700 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video In-Reply-To: <1114423592.4317.49.camel@hermes.at.home> References: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> <426540A7.3080009@vitalstream.com> <1114423592.4317.49.camel@hermes.at.home> Message-ID: <426D2470.3080408@vitalstream.com> Andrew Kelly wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 19:32, Rick Stevens wrote: > > [a lot of very helpful information] > > Thanks, Rick, I really appreciate your efforts. > > At the risk of you and I building two layers of middlemen, I'll have > "the people in need" at my end contact your sales people directly. That's fine. They're really not middlemen. I'm just the senior geek here...I don't get to set pricing for anyone. However, if they don't treat you right, you must let me know. I'm not known as "The Curmudgeon" or "Grumpa" around here for nothing! ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Do you suffer from long-term memory loss?" "I don't remember" - - -- Chumbawumba, "Amnesia" (TubThumping) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 17:11:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:11:08 -0700 Subject: rdate, in.timed, and ntpd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <426D24AC.7070201@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Ok, from what I have gathered, ntpd is the preferred method over the > in.timed/rdate combination. > > I have some QNX machines that use the rdate command, I don't see NTP > anywhere on them. > > Is there harm in running in.timed and ntpd at the same time on my > servers so some of the clients can stay synced up? No, that's fine. The two protocols run on different ports. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Batteries not included. Offer not valid in some states. - - Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ktr at mtu.edu Mon Apr 25 17:14:14 2005 From: ktr at mtu.edu (Kevin Raber) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: rsync syntax question In-Reply-To: <1114446901.3715.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114446901.3715.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Scott Mertens wrote: > I have been told that rsync is much better than dump to copy one drive > to another. I want to copy sda and sda1 to sdb Both drives on one > RHEL4 machine. I thought I would use the syntax of > > "rsync -avz / /mnt/Backup" > > Hers is a problem I'm thinking about, /mnt/Backup is a second drive > mounted (SDB). I am thinking that as rsync copies the tree - when it > gets to the mounted drive it is copying from /mnt/Backup to /mnt/Backup. > This it seems to me would put rsync into an infinite loop? > > This second drive is only for backup purposes, so if it can be excluded > from being backed up, thats OK. > > Does the syntax look OK, and will it copy both sda and sda1? > > Thanks > I think you just need to use the exclusion available with rsync: --exclude=PATTERN to make sure you avoid the loop. Kevin Raber MTU From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Apr 25 17:26:34 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:26:34 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:54 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > >>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:36 PM > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files > >> > >>> > >>>Ew... > >>> > >>>Beyond that there is not hack/tweak I can make? > >>> > >>>Sudo would basically open up chown/chgrp for any file on local disk, > > > > and > > > >>>any filesystem that is mounted with root level access. Correct? > >> > >>Yup. You still haven't said why they need to chown a file. There is > >>virtually never a good reason to allow that. > >> > >>If people need to share a file, make them all part of the same group > > > > and > > > >>grant rwx group to each file or, alternately, allow the users to join > >>other groups by putting their usernames in /etc/group or allowing the > >>"newgrp" command. > > > > > > Well, lets just say that's the way it's always been. I'm picking other > > battles at the moment and am not ready to attack something like this. > > That doesn't make it right and it's dangerous to boot. "that's the way > we've always done it" is a totally invalid argument when it comes to > security. > Choir man, your preaching to the Choir. I inherited a gigantic mess when I got in this particular position 3 years ago. First on the windows side, I cleaned that up in about 1 year. The UNIX side is MUCH more difficult to get users to change. And unfortunately, I just can't go and change it. I'm just attacking the larger problems than chown, before I get to a chown problem. Fortunately, the users decided they could figure out how to live without the ability to chown on the linux systems. Too bad hp/(s)ux still allows it. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 17:28:40 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:28:40 -0700 Subject: rsync syntax question In-Reply-To: <1114446901.3715.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1114446901.3715.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <426D28C8.8060808@vitalstream.com> Scott Mertens wrote: > I have been told that rsync is much better than dump to copy one drive > to another. I want to copy sda and sda1 to sdb Both drives on one > RHEL4 machine. I thought I would use the syntax of > > "rsync -avz / /mnt/Backup" > > Hers is a problem I'm thinking about, /mnt/Backup is a second drive > mounted (SDB). I am thinking that as rsync copies the tree - when it > gets to the mounted drive it is copying from /mnt/Backup to /mnt/Backup. > This it seems to me would put rsync into an infinite loop? > > This second drive is only for backup purposes, so if it can be excluded > from being backed up, thats OK. > > Does the syntax look OK, and will it copy both sda and sda1? There is a fundamental difference between dump (or dd) and rsync. dump and dd are _block-level_ dumps (they don't care about filesystems, they copy raw blocks). rsync is a _file-level_ synchronizer. The idea is to make the target's filesystem tree look like the source tree. You need to create filesystems on sdb that are the same size or larger (if possible) as those on sda and mount them somewhere. Then you should: rsync -lrpogx /source/filesystem /destination/filesystem for each source partition. Remember, this is a file level copy, not a block level dump! Also look carefully at the "-l" and related options for symlinks in the rsync man page...they can bite you if you aren't careful. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Batteries not included. Offer not valid in some states. - - Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 17:30:21 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:30:21 -0700 Subject: can't change ownership on files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <426D292D.9060600@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:54 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>>>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:36 PM >>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files >>>> >>>> >>>>>Ew... >>>>> >>>>>Beyond that there is not hack/tweak I can make? >>>>> >>>>>Sudo would basically open up chown/chgrp for any file on local > > disk, > >>>and >>> >>> >>>>>any filesystem that is mounted with root level access. Correct? >>>> >>>>Yup. You still haven't said why they need to chown a file. There > > is > >>>>virtually never a good reason to allow that. >>>> >>>>If people need to share a file, make them all part of the same group >>> >>>and >>> >>> >>>>grant rwx group to each file or, alternately, allow the users to > > join > >>>>other groups by putting their usernames in /etc/group or allowing > > the > >>>>"newgrp" command. >>> >>> >>>Well, lets just say that's the way it's always been. I'm picking > > other > >>>battles at the moment and am not ready to attack something like > > this. > >>That doesn't make it right and it's dangerous to boot. "that's the > > way > >>we've always done it" is a totally invalid argument when it comes to >>security. >> > > > Choir man, your preaching to the Choir. > > I inherited a gigantic mess when I got in this particular position 3 > years ago. First on the windows side, I cleaned that up in about 1 > year. The UNIX side is MUCH more difficult to get users to change. And > unfortunately, I just can't go and change it. > > I'm just attacking the larger problems than chown, before I get to a > chown problem. Fortunately, the users decided they could figure out how > to live without the ability to chown on the linux systems. Too bad > hp/(s)ux still allows it. And Solaris does, too. However, you MUST force them to use something like CVS. It will save their butts when they have to back out changes or merge the work of several people. Trust me on this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grep me no patterns and I'll tell you no lines - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Apr 25 18:40:02 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:40:02 -0700 Subject: OT: RE: can't change ownership on files Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:30 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files > > And Solaris does, too. However, you MUST force them to use something > like CVS. It will save their butts when they have to back out changes > or merge the work of several people. Trust me on this. I learned a lesson a while back about those that don't listen to reason. (Typically a software developer for some reason) I email, then I save the fact that they didn't feel my course of action was appropriate and they still wanted to do it their way. I then do it their way, but save said email in a safe place for the future. Someday in the future, their way bites them. They then blame me in front of their manager. I pull up said email from yesteryear and let the chips fall where they may. :evil: It's worked a few times now, and never again do I have a problem with that same person. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Apr 25 18:45:32 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:45:32 -0700 Subject: OT: RE: can't change ownership on files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <426D3ACC.8070305@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:30 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: can't change ownership on files >> >>And Solaris does, too. However, you MUST force them to use something >>like CVS. It will save their butts when they have to back out changes >>or merge the work of several people. Trust me on this. > > > I learned a lesson a while back about those that don't listen to reason. > (Typically a software developer for some reason) > > I email, then I save the fact that they didn't feel my course of action > was appropriate and they still wanted to do it their way. I then do it > their way, but save said email in a safe place for the future. > > Someday in the future, their way bites them. They then blame me in > front of their manager. I pull up said email from yesteryear and let > the chips fall where they may. :evil: > > It's worked a few times now, and never again do I have a problem with > that same person. As a wise man once said: Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggy!" until you can find a large enough rock. I think you've mastered it! :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jaaphoetmer at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 19:57:42 2005 From: jaaphoetmer at yahoo.com (Jaap Hoetmer) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:57:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: how to install rh8 in w2000 computer without flopy and cd-rom driver In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050425195742.49791.qmail@web52005.mail.yahoo.com> I guess depending on the availability of a network card that supports network boot, and the availability of a netboot server, it could be done. I have done a similar thing, installing Win2k on a notebook without floppy drive. The external CDROM drive lacked BIOS support for booting, but could only be accessed after loading drivers. The only way out was netboot. Regards, Jaap --- Rick Stevens wrote: > anjou_xia wrote: > > I have a rh8 in my hard disk.and the system file > format is NTFS,how should I install it in my > computer without floppy and cd-rom driver. > > any remendation will be appreciated. > > That is virtually impossible. You must boot Linux > somehow to do the > installation and you have no removable media. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer > rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. > http://www.vitalstream.com - > - > - > - Tempt not the dragons of fate, since thou art > crunchy and taste - > - good with ketchup. > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Tue Apr 26 03:58:35 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:28:35 +0530 Subject: rsync Message-ID: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> can i sync my ftp server to my local folder? i am using this command for this but not working rsync -avz macmillan-tivimtech at tivimtech.com:21 /home/ajay/tivim/ tell me correct syntax thanks ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Apr 26 16:29:56 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:29:56 -0700 Subject: rsync In-Reply-To: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <426E6C84.2010107@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > can i sync my ftp server to my local folder? > i am using this command for this but not working > rsync -avz macmillan-tivimtech at tivimtech.com:21 > /home/ajay/tivim/ > > tell me correct syntax rsync and ftp are totally different protocols and do not speak the same language. You must run rsyncd on the server and then the syntax is something like one of the following (all will work): rsync -avz user at hostname:publishingpoint /home/ajay/tivim rsync -avz user at hostname::publishingpoint /home/ajay/tivim rsync -avz rsync://user at hostname/publishingpoint \ /home/ajay/tivim rsync runs on TCP port 873. Look at the man page for rsync. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 27 03:36:47 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:06:47 +0530 Subject: rsync References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426E6C84.2010107@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <001001c54ada$5e0f15a0$260210ac@tivimnet> thanks a lot rgds ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Stevens To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Re: rsync > ajay wrote: > > can i sync my ftp server to my local folder? > > i am using this command for this but not working > > rsync -avz macmillan-tivimtech at tivimtech.com:21 > > /home/ajay/tivim/ > > > > tell me correct syntax > > rsync and ftp are totally different protocols and do not speak the same > language. You must run rsyncd on the server and then the syntax is > something like one of the following (all will work): > > rsync -avz user at hostname:publishingpoint /home/ajay/tivim > rsync -avz user at hostname::publishingpoint /home/ajay/tivim > rsync -avz rsync://user at hostname/publishingpoint \ > /home/ajay/tivim > > rsync runs on TCP port 873. Look at the man page for rsync. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the OS - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 27 03:39:58 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:09:58 +0530 Subject: rsync References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com> Message-ID: <001c01c54ada$cbcc0a80$260210ac@tivimnet> can u tell me syntax of ".hostrc" what for "-DD" do. do i need gateway on m/c i run it or it will run through proxy also? thanks a lot. rgds ajay On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 09:28:35AM +0530, ajay wrote: > can i sync my ftp server to my local folder? > i am using this command for this but not working > rsync -avz macmillan-tivimtech at tivimtech.com:21 /home/ajay/tivim/ As far as I know, rsync will not speak ftp protocol. Look into the ncftp package; one of the programs is ncftpget. I use ncftpput to do a one-way sync between a local directory tree and an ftp server, like so: $ ncftpput -R -f /home/dave/.hostrc -DD /home/dave/mainwebsite_html /home/dave/tmp/websource/* This copies the contents of /home/dave/tmp/websource to my ftp server and drops it in /home/dave/mainwebsite_html. Check your man page; you may be able to use ncftpget the same way. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Mackintosh To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Re: rsync > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 27 03:48:10 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:18:10 +0530 Subject: how many mails Message-ID: <003401c54adb$ee834240$260210ac@tivimnet> it 's not technical! can i know how many mails are posted daily on an average daily on this redhat group. as sometime i receive only three mails and sometime 20-25 mails. are mails losted on way also? i am using sendmail, if so what remedy i should take. being an admin, it is very helpful for me. rgds ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to this email please delete the 'no_spam.' in address ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reality is bad enough, why should I tell the truth? -- Patrick Sky From akelly at transparency.org Wed Apr 27 06:41:33 2005 From: akelly at transparency.org (Andrew Kelly) Date: 27 Apr 2005 08:41:33 +0200 Subject: [OT] Streaming Video In-Reply-To: <426D2470.3080408@vitalstream.com> References: <1113315296.4139.93.camel@hermes.at.home> <425C0365.8010702@vitalstream.com> <1113902624.4298.153.camel@hermes.at.home> <426540A7.3080009@vitalstream.com> <1114423592.4317.49.camel@hermes.at.home> <426D2470.3080408@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1114584093.3550.3.camel@hermes.at.home> On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:10, Rick Stevens wrote: > Andrew Kelly wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 19:32, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > [a lot of very helpful information] > > > > Thanks, Rick, I really appreciate your efforts. > > > > At the risk of you and I building two layers of middlemen, I'll have > > "the people in need" at my end contact your sales people directly. > > That's fine. They're really not middlemen. I'm just the senior geek > here...I don't get to set pricing for anyone. However, if they don't > treat you right, you must let me know. I'm not known as "The > Curmudgeon" or "Grumpa" around here for nothing! ;-) Roger that, Comanche Man, and thanks again. Andy > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "Do you suffer from long-term memory loss?" "I don't remember" - > - -- Chumbawumba, "Amnesia" (TubThumping) - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Apr 27 09:44:31 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:14:31 +0530 Subject: rsync References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com> Message-ID: <00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> hello i write this command , but give some error, tell me what is this error and how to solve it? ncftpput -R -f /home/dave/.hostrc /home/ajay /* gives error can not get size or failed to open file here's a debug report : LibNcFTP 3.1.5 (October 13, 2002) compiled for linux-x86 Uname: Linux|tivimtech.philnet|2.4.20-8smp|#1 SMP Thu Mar 13 17:45:54 EST 2003|i686 Glibc: 2.3.2 (stable) 220: (vsFTPd 1.2.0) Connected to ftp.tivimtech.com. Cmd: USER macmillan-tivimtech 331: Please specify the password. Cmd: PASS xxxxxxxx 230: Login successful. Cmd: PWD 257: "/home/tivimtech/macmillan-tivimtech" Logged in to ftp.tivimtech.com as macmillan-tivimtech. Cmd: FEAT 500: Unknown command. Cmd: HELP SITE 214: The following commands are implemented. ABOR APPE CDUP CWD DELE EPRT EPSV HELP LIST MDTM MKD MODE NLST NOOP PASS PASV PORT PWD QUIT REST RETR RMD RNFR RNTO SITE SIZE STOR STOU STRU SYST TYPE USER XCUP XCWD XMKD XPWD XRMD Help OK. Cmd: CLNT NcFTPGet 3.1.5 linux-x86 500: Unknown command. Cmd: TYPE I 200: Switching to Binary mode. Cmd: SIZE /From Macmillan 550: Could not get file size. Cmd: REST 1 350: Restart position accepted (1). Cmd: REST 0 350: Restart position accepted (0). Cmd: PASV 227: Entering Passive Mode (69,44,58,121,121,158) Cmd: RETR /From Macmillan 550: Failed to open file. Cmd: QUIT 221: Goodbye. and comes out without getting any file. help me for this! rgds ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: David Mackintosh To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Re: rsync > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From fruiz at tsitrucks.com Wed Apr 27 14:59:09 2005 From: fruiz at tsitrucks.com (Francisco Ruiz) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:59:09 -0500 Subject: Asni emulator client for Linux rh8.0 Message-ID: <004801c54b39$aac0d370$cc08a8c0@dallas69> I have a text base application that runs on a SCO box. The application seems to only like ansi emulation from what ever connection it receives. I have RH8.0 box I need to telnet to the SCO box using ansi emulation. Is there any freeware out there to accomplish this? F,Ruiz. Data Systems Administrator. Transportation Services Inc. Phone (972)288-8397 X35 Fax (972)289-8410 email:fruiz at tsitrucks.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 27 15:54:09 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:54:09 -0700 Subject: how many mails In-Reply-To: <003401c54adb$ee834240$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <003401c54adb$ee834240$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <426FB5A1.5060202@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > it 's not technical! > > can i know how many mails are posted daily on an average daily on this > redhat group. > as sometime i receive only three mails and sometime 20-25 mails. > are mails losted on way also? > i am using sendmail, if so what remedy i should take. > being an admin, it is very helpful for me. Check the archives at https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/ The amount of traffic varies quite a bit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - LOOK OUT!!! BEHIND YOU!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 27 16:00:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:00:29 -0700 Subject: rsync In-Reply-To: <00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com> <00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > hello i write this command , but give some error, tell me what is this error > and how to solve it? > > ncftpput -R -f /home/dave/.hostrc /home/ajay /* > > gives error can not get size or failed to open file > > here's a debug report : > > LibNcFTP 3.1.5 (October 13, 2002) compiled for linux-x86 > Uname: Linux|tivimtech.philnet|2.4.20-8smp|#1 SMP Thu Mar 13 17:45:54 EST > 2003|i686 > Glibc: 2.3.2 (stable) > 220: (vsFTPd 1.2.0) > Connected to ftp.tivimtech.com. > Cmd: USER macmillan-tivimtech > 331: Please specify the password. > Cmd: PASS xxxxxxxx > 230: Login successful. > Cmd: PWD > 257: "/home/tivimtech/macmillan-tivimtech" > Logged in to ftp.tivimtech.com as macmillan-tivimtech. > Cmd: FEAT > 500: Unknown command. > Cmd: HELP SITE > 214: The following commands are implemented. > ABOR APPE CDUP CWD DELE EPRT EPSV HELP LIST MDTM MKD MODE NLST NOOP > PASS PASV PORT PWD QUIT REST RETR RMD RNFR RNTO SITE SIZE STOR STOU > STRU SYST TYPE USER XCUP XCWD XMKD XPWD XRMD > Help OK. > Cmd: CLNT NcFTPGet 3.1.5 linux-x86 > 500: Unknown command. > Cmd: TYPE I > 200: Switching to Binary mode. > Cmd: SIZE /From Macmillan > 550: Could not get file size. > Cmd: REST 1 > 350: Restart position accepted (1). > Cmd: REST 0 > 350: Restart position accepted (0). > Cmd: PASV > 227: Entering Passive Mode (69,44,58,121,121,158) > Cmd: RETR /From Macmillan > 550: Failed to open file. > Cmd: QUIT > 221: Goodbye. > > and comes out without getting any file. > help me for this! First off, ncftpput moves files FROM your local machine TO a remote machine. Second, it appears the account you have on the remote machine has a bad home directory. It appears that the account has a home directory of "From Macmillan" (goddam Microsoft permitting embedded spaces in filenames!) You must check the remote account and see if the home directory for your login actually exists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Apr 27 16:07:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:07:47 -0700 Subject: Asni emulator client for Linux rh8.0 In-Reply-To: <004801c54b39$aac0d370$cc08a8c0@dallas69> References: <004801c54b39$aac0d370$cc08a8c0@dallas69> Message-ID: <426FB8D3.3060304@vitalstream.com> Francisco Ruiz wrote: > I have a text base application that runs on a SCO box. The application > seems to only like ansi emulation from what ever connection it receives. > I have RH8.0 box I need to telnet to the SCO box using ansi emulation. > Is there any freeware out there to accomplish this? Just use telnet. When you log into the SCO box, use the normal shell commands to set the terminal type AT THE SCO BOX'S PROMPT: $ TERM=vt100;export TERM;tput init (assuming a Bourne shell...modify as appropriate for C shell or Korn shell). The telnet client on Linux actually does ANSI (a.k.a. VT100) emulation with extensions (to handle color). The problem is that it sends "xterm" or "linux" to the remote end and SCO doesn't grok that. By telling SCO that it's really a VT100 or ANSI terminal and then doing the "tput init" (to reset SCO's internal emulation mode), both ends will be using the same escape sequences. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Swap memory error: You lose your mind" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com Wed Apr 27 16:53:07 2005 From: David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com (David Mackintosh) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:53:07 -0400 Subject: rsync In-Reply-To: <001c01c54ada$cbcc0a80$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com> <001c01c54ada$cbcc0a80$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <20050427165307.GA20799@xdroop.com> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 09:09:58AM +0530, ajay wrote: > can u tell me syntax of ".hostrc" what for "-DD" do. .hostrc is a file you can put in your home directory which has usernames and passwords for remote sites. Ncftp (and friends) can use this file so that you don't get prompted for a username and a password. For Example: $ cat .hostrc-example host www.example.system user dave password thisisnotmypassword And according to 'man ncftpput': -DD Delete local file after successfully uploading it. ...depending on your application, you may not want to do this. > do i need gateway on m/c i run it or it will run through proxy also? I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | Public Key: dave at xdroop.com | http://www.xdroop.com/dave/gpg.html $ gpg --recv-keys --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 4C032504 Mystery attachment? http://xdroop.dhs.org/space/GPG -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also I think it highly unlikely that you are going to upload your entire filesystem (whcih is what -R /* implies) to your ftpserver. -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | Public Key: dave at xdroop.com | http://www.xdroop.com/dave/gpg.html $ gpg --recv-keys --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 4C032504 Mystery attachment? http://xdroop.dhs.org/space/GPG -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bhussein at scs-net.org Wed Apr 27 18:39:50 2005 From: bhussein at scs-net.org (Bassam ALHUSSEIN) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:39:50 +0200 Subject: Need help with Kylix3 .... Message-ID: <001401c54b58$82e491b0$0303000a@andromeda> Hello everyone ... I am getting some troubles with Kylix3 ( Delphi for Linux ) ... I can write and compile a project successfully ( Ctrl F9 )... 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Name: Blank Bkgrd.gif Type: image/gif Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Thu Apr 28 03:15:58 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:45:58 +0530 Subject: rsync References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> i am sorry i use ncftpget and after login i enter in "tivimtech" folder i want all data from "From Macmillan" folder but instead getting these errors. rgds ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Stevens To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: Re: rsync > ajay wrote: > > hello i write this command , but give some error, tell me what is this error > > and how to solve it? > > > > ncftpput -R -f /home/dave/.hostrc /home/ajay /* > > > > gives error can not get size or failed to open file > > > > here's a debug report : > > > > LibNcFTP 3.1.5 (October 13, 2002) compiled for linux-x86 > > Uname: Linux|tivimtech.philnet|2.4.20-8smp|#1 SMP Thu Mar 13 17:45:54 EST > > 2003|i686 > > Glibc: 2.3.2 (stable) > > 220: (vsFTPd 1.2.0) > > Connected to ftp.tivimtech.com. > > Cmd: USER macmillan-tivimtech > > 331: Please specify the password. > > Cmd: PASS xxxxxxxx > > 230: Login successful. > > Cmd: PWD > > 257: "/home/tivimtech/macmillan-tivimtech" > > Logged in to ftp.tivimtech.com as macmillan-tivimtech. > > Cmd: FEAT > > 500: Unknown command. > > Cmd: HELP SITE > > 214: The following commands are implemented. > > ABOR APPE CDUP CWD DELE EPRT EPSV HELP LIST MDTM MKD MODE NLST NOOP > > PASS PASV PORT PWD QUIT REST RETR RMD RNFR RNTO SITE SIZE STOR STOU > > STRU SYST TYPE USER XCUP XCWD XMKD XPWD XRMD > > Help OK. > > Cmd: CLNT NcFTPGet 3.1.5 linux-x86 > > 500: Unknown command. > > Cmd: TYPE I > > 200: Switching to Binary mode. > > Cmd: SIZE /From Macmillan > > 550: Could not get file size. > > Cmd: REST 1 > > 350: Restart position accepted (1). > > Cmd: REST 0 > > 350: Restart position accepted (0). > > Cmd: PASV > > 227: Entering Passive Mode (69,44,58,121,121,158) > > Cmd: RETR /From Macmillan > > 550: Failed to open file. > > Cmd: QUIT > > 221: Goodbye. > > > > and comes out without getting any file. > > help me for this! > > First off, ncftpput moves files FROM your local machine TO a remote > machine. > > Second, it appears the account you have on the remote machine has a bad > home directory. It appears that the account has a home directory of > "From Macmillan" (goddam Microsoft permitting embedded spaces in > filenames!) You must check the remote account and see if the home > directory for your login actually exists. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Thu Apr 28 03:21:10 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:51:10 +0530 Subject: rsync References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet><20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><001c01c54ada$cbcc0a80$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050427165307.GA20799@xdroop.com> Message-ID: <002b01c54ba1$53486b40$260210ac@tivimnet> i mean if i do not have any gateway and i use proxy for internet can i do it? rgds ajay > do i need gateway on m/c i run it or it will run through proxy also? I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Mackintosh To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Re: rsync > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From bastiji at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 17:48:54 2005 From: bastiji at gmail.com (FS) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:48:54 -0400 Subject: Help with login problem! Message-ID: Hello all, I set up a new FC1 machine yesterday and created a user "newuser" using "adduser newuser" and changed its password. When I try to ssh to the said account, it doesn't work. The connection opens, accepts my password and then closes instantly. Trying to "su - newuser" or "su newuser" result in a "could not open session" Interestingly enough, FTP does work! Googling seems to point to permissions problem but I can't figure out where or what. The /etc/passwd is 644, /etc/group is 644 and /etc/shadow is 600 Any help/tips appreciated! More relevant information: root at c7504s98 ~$ uname -a Linux c7504s98.testcompany.com 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl #1 Wed Oct 29 15:42:51 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux SSHD version is "sshd version OpenSSH_3.6.1p2" My /var/log/messages show these related messages: Apr 28 17:06:36 c7504s98 su(pam_unix)[4383]: session opened for user newuser by root(uid=0) Apr 28 17:06:36 c7504s98 su[4383]: pam_xauth: error determining invoking user's name Apr 28 17:07:31 c7504s98 su(pam_unix)[4776]: session opened for user newuser by root(uid=0) Apr 28 17:07:31 c7504s98 su[4776]: pam_xauth: error determining invoking user's name Apr 28 17:16:34 c7504s98 su(pam_unix)[4820]: session opened for user newuser by root(uid=0) Apr 28 17:16:34 c7504s98 su[4820]: pam_xauth: error determining invoking user's name The /var/log/secure file shows the following: Apr 27 15:53:05 c7504s98 sshd[1860]: Accepted password for newuser from 127.0.0.1 port 32775 ssh2 Apr 27 15:53:05 c7504s98 sshd[1862]: fatal: login_get_lastlog: Cannot find account for uid 500 Thanks! Faisal From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 28 17:54:14 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:54:14 -0700 Subject: rsync In-Reply-To: <000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com> <000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <42712346.1040108@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > i am sorry i use ncftpget and after login i enter in "tivimtech" folder i > want all data from "From Macmillan" folder but instead getting these errors. It's VERY difficult to follow you, Ajay. Please bottom post in the future (put your comments AFTER what you're commenting on as I am doing here). Let's get some terminology straight and make sure we understand what you're trying to do. Let's call the machine you're sitting in front of (the local machine) "systemA" and the remote machine "systemB". I'm guessing you want to get ALL of the files from some user's account on systemB into a directory on systemA. If that is the case, then create an "ftpcred" file in your home directory on systemA that contains these three lines: host systemB user name-of-user-on-systemB pass password-for-user-on-systemB Then, create a directory under your home directory systemA where you want the files to go. Let's call it "sysBfiles": mkdir sysBfiles Now, you can do the get by executing ncftpget -f ftpcred -R sysBfiles * ncftpget will try to log into systemB as the user specified in your ftpcred file and, if successful, will pull all of the files from that user's home directory and put them in your "sysBfiles" directory. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "I was remembering the immortal words of Socrates when he said, - - 'I drank what?'" -- Val Kilmer in "Real Genius" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Apr 28 18:02:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:02:47 -0700 Subject: Help with login problem! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42712547.7070106@vitalstream.com> FS wrote: > Hello all, > > I set up a new FC1 machine yesterday and created a user "newuser" > using "adduser newuser" and changed its password. > > When I try to ssh to the said account, it doesn't work. The connection > opens, accepts my password and then closes instantly. Trying to "su - > newuser" or "su newuser" result in a "could not open session" > Interestingly enough, FTP does work! Uh, yeah. Tell me, did you use the "-m" option to adduser? If not, then the new user doesn't have a home directory unless you created one for him separately and used the "-d" option to adduser to specify what it was. And if you did that, don't forget you must change the ownership and group for the user's home directory to the new user's UID and GID or it won't work properly. If you did it properly: # adduser -m newuser If you have to do it separately: # adduser newuser # cat /etc/passwd | grep newuser # mkdir /home/newuser # chown newuser:newusergroup /home/newuser The "cat" command dumps the /etc/passwd entry for the new user so you can get the user's home directory and group. You use that data in the last two commands. > Googling seems to point to permissions problem but I can't figure out > where or what. The /etc/passwd is 644, /etc/group is 644 and > /etc/shadow is 600 It's referring to the user's home directory, not the permissions on passwd or group. Remember, FTP doesn't have an issue if the user's home directory doesn't exist because there's no shell involved with FTP. ssh IS a shell and as such, REQUIRES a home directory with valid permissions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Animal testing is futile. They always get nervous and give the - - wrong answers - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From bastiji at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 18:14:05 2005 From: bastiji at gmail.com (FS) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:14:05 -0400 Subject: Help with login problem! In-Reply-To: <42712547.7070106@vitalstream.com> References: <42712547.7070106@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On 4/28/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > FS wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I set up a new FC1 machine yesterday and created a user "newuser" > > using "adduser newuser" and changed its password. > > > > When I try to ssh to the said account, it doesn't work. The connection > > opens, accepts my password and then closes instantly. Trying to "su - > > newuser" or "su newuser" result in a "could not open session" > > Interestingly enough, FTP does work! > > Uh, yeah. Tell me, did you use the "-m" option to adduser? If not, > then the new user doesn't have a home directory unless you created one > for him separately and used the "-d" option to adduser to specify what > it was. And if you did that, don't forget you must change the ownership > and group for the user's home directory to the new user's UID and GID or > it won't work properly. > > If you did it properly: > > # adduser -m newuser > > If you have to do it separately: > > # adduser newuser > # cat /etc/passwd | grep newuser > # mkdir /home/newuser > # chown newuser:newusergroup /home/newuser > > The "cat" command dumps the /etc/passwd entry for the new user so you > can get the user's home directory and group. You use that data in the > last two commands. > > > Googling seems to point to permissions problem but I can't figure out > > where or what. The /etc/passwd is 644, /etc/group is 644 and > > /etc/shadow is 600 > > It's referring to the user's home directory, not the permissions on > passwd or group. > > Remember, FTP doesn't have an issue if the user's home directory doesn't > exist because there's no shell involved with FTP. ssh IS a shell and > as such, REQUIRES a home directory with valid permissions. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Animal testing is futile. They always get nervous and give the - > - wrong answers - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick -- Thanks for responding. You're right. I did not use the -m option, but when I checked, the adduser process had somehow created the home directory automatically and gave it proper permissions. Please take a look below. Should these be something else? root at c7504s98 /home$ ls -al total 16 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 28 12:44 . drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 Apr 27 15:29 .. drwx------ 2 newuser newuser 4096 Apr 28 13:20 newuser root at c7504s98 /home$ ls -al newuser total 28 drwx------ 2 newuser newuser 4096 Apr 28 13:20 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 28 12:44 .. -rw------- 1 newuser newuser 21 Apr 28 13:21 .bash_history -rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 24 Apr 28 12:44 .bash_logout -rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 191 Apr 28 12:44 .bash_profile -rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 281 Apr 28 12:44 .bashrc -rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 120 Apr 28 12:44 .gtkrc root at c7504s98 /home$ Thanks, Faisal From stuart at sjsears.com Thu Apr 28 19:46:51 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:46:51 +0100 Subject: Help with login problem! In-Reply-To: References: <42712547.7070106@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <200504282046.51304.stuart@sjsears.com> On Thursday 28 April 2005 19:14, FS wrote: > On 4/28/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > > FS wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I set up a new FC1 machine yesterday and created a user "newuser" > > > using "adduser newuser" and changed its password. > > > > > > When I try to ssh to the said account, it doesn't work. The connection > > > opens, accepts my password and then closes instantly. Trying to "su - > > > newuser" or "su newuser" result in a "could not open session" ...and if you tail -f /var/log/messages /var/log/secure in a separate terminal while you try to su, what do you see? -- Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX RTFM Sentimentality -- that's what we call the sentiment we don't share. -- Graham Greene From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Fri Apr 29 04:35:07 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:05:07 +0530 Subject: rsync References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com><000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> <42712346.1040108@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <001301c54c74$d4bcfdc0$260210ac@tivimnet> i type this command "ncftpget -f login.cfg -d debug -R tivim *" and have also run it with "-F" switch, login is successful but getting "failed to open file/could not get file size" i am also attaching my debug report "debug" thanks ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Stevens To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: Re: rsync > ajay wrote: > > i am sorry i use ncftpget and after login i enter in "tivimtech" folder i > > want all data from "From Macmillan" folder but instead getting these errors. > > It's VERY difficult to follow you, Ajay. Please bottom post in the > future (put your comments AFTER what you're commenting on as I am doing > here). > > Let's get some terminology straight and make sure we understand what > you're trying to do. > > Let's call the machine you're sitting in front of (the local machine) > "systemA" and the remote machine "systemB". I'm guessing you want to > get ALL of the files from some user's account on systemB into a > directory on systemA. If that is the case, then create an "ftpcred" > file in your home directory on systemA that contains these three lines: > > host systemB > user name-of-user-on-systemB > pass password-for-user-on-systemB > > Then, create a directory under your home directory systemA where you > want the files to go. Let's call it "sysBfiles": > > mkdir sysBfiles > > Now, you can do the get by executing > > ncftpget -f ftpcred -R sysBfiles * > > ncftpget will try to log into systemB as the user specified in your > ftpcred file and, if successful, will pull all of the files from that > user's home directory and put them in your "sysBfiles" directory. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "I was remembering the immortal words of Socrates when he said, - > - 'I drank what?'" -- Val Kilmer in "Real Genius" - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From gnichols at tpg.com.au Fri Apr 29 04:54:02 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:54:02 +1000 Subject: SELinux In-Reply-To: <426F2BDC.70501@tpg.com.au> References: <426F2BDC.70501@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4271BDEA.2010708@tpg.com.au> Graeme Nichols wrote: > Hello, I am having an authentication problem when trying to install > and run SQL-ledger caused, I think, by SElinux. I have made the > required changes to /etc/selinux/config file. I have to use > audit2allow to make changes to policy.conf. My biggest problem is I > cannot find policy.conf. The audit2allow editor comes up OK. Can > someone tell me where the policy.conf file should be? > > Thanks, > Nobody seemed to know the answer to this, at least no one has replied, so for those that this may help the policy.conf file, when it has been compiled, can be found in the policy src directory, usually /etc/selinux/{strict | targeted}/src/policy . -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to this email please delete the 'no_spam.' in address ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Life is the childhood of our immortality. -- Goethe From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Fri Apr 29 04:55:25 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:25:25 +0530 Subject: rsync References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com><000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> <42712346.1040108@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <002a01c54c77$a94333a0$260210ac@tivimnet> ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Stevens To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:24 PM Subject: Re: rsync > ajay wrote: > > i am sorry i use ncftpget and after login i enter in "tivimtech" folder i > > want all data from "From Macmillan" folder but instead getting these errors. > > It's VERY difficult to follow you, Ajay. Please bottom post in the > future (put your comments AFTER what you're commenting on as I am doing > here). > > Let's get some terminology straight and make sure we understand what > you're trying to do. > > Let's call the machine you're sitting in front of (the local machine) > "systemA" and the remote machine "systemB". I'm guessing you want to > get ALL of the files from some user's account on systemB into a > directory on systemA. If that is the case, then create an "ftpcred" > file in your home directory on systemA that contains these three lines: > > host systemB > user name-of-user-on-systemB > pass password-for-user-on-systemB > > Then, create a directory under your home directory systemA where you > want the files to go. Let's call it "sysBfiles": > > mkdir sysBfiles > > Now, you can do the get by executing > > ncftpget -f ftpcred -R sysBfiles * > > ncftpget will try to log into systemB as the user specified in your > ftpcred file and, if successful, will pull all of the files from that > user's home directory and put them in your "sysBfiles" directory. i type this command "ncftpget -f login.cfg -d debug -R tivim *" and have also run it with "-F" switch, login is successful but getting "failed to open file/could not get file size" i am also attaching my debug report "debug" what may be problem? thanks ajay > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "I was remembering the immortal words of Socrates when he said, - > - 'I drank what?'" -- Val Kilmer in "Real Genius" - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: debug Type: application/octet-stream Size: 16581 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fab at s-tunnel.com Fri Apr 29 12:07:32 2005 From: fab at s-tunnel.com (Alexey Fadyushin) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:07:32 +0400 Subject: Help with login problem! In-Reply-To: References: <42712547.7070106@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42722384.40808@s-tunnel.com> FS wrote: >On 4/28/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>FS wrote: >> >> >>>Hello all, >>> >>>I set up a new FC1 machine yesterday and created a user "newuser" >>>using "adduser newuser" and changed its password. >>> >>>When I try to ssh to the said account, it doesn't work. The connection >>>opens, accepts my password and then closes instantly. Trying to "su - >>>newuser" or "su newuser" result in a "could not open session" >>>Interestingly enough, FTP does work! >>> >>> >>Uh, yeah. Tell me, did you use the "-m" option to adduser? If not, >>then the new user doesn't have a home directory unless you created one >>for him separately and used the "-d" option to adduser to specify what >>it was. And if you did that, don't forget you must change the ownership >>and group for the user's home directory to the new user's UID and GID or >>it won't work properly. >> >>If you did it properly: >> >> # adduser -m newuser >> >>If you have to do it separately: >> >> # adduser newuser >> # cat /etc/passwd | grep newuser >> # mkdir /home/newuser >> # chown newuser:newusergroup /home/newuser >> >>The "cat" command dumps the /etc/passwd entry for the new user so you >>can get the user's home directory and group. You use that data in the >>last two commands. >> >> >> >>>Googling seems to point to permissions problem but I can't figure out >>>where or what. The /etc/passwd is 644, /etc/group is 644 and >>>/etc/shadow is 600 >>> >>> >>It's referring to the user's home directory, not the permissions on >>passwd or group. >> >>Remember, FTP doesn't have an issue if the user's home directory doesn't >>exist because there's no shell involved with FTP. ssh IS a shell and >>as such, REQUIRES a home directory with valid permissions. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- Animal testing is futile. They always get nervous and give the - >>- wrong answers - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > >Rick -- Thanks for responding. > >You're right. I did not use the -m option, but when I checked, the >adduser process had somehow created the home directory automatically >and gave it proper permissions. > >Please take a look below. Should these be something else? > >root at c7504s98 /home$ ls -al >total 16 >drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 28 12:44 . >drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 Apr 27 15:29 .. >drwx------ 2 newuser newuser 4096 Apr 28 13:20 newuser >root at c7504s98 /home$ ls -al newuser >total 28 >drwx------ 2 newuser newuser 4096 Apr 28 13:20 . >drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 28 12:44 .. >-rw------- 1 newuser newuser 21 Apr 28 13:21 .bash_history >-rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 24 Apr 28 12:44 .bash_logout >-rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 191 Apr 28 12:44 .bash_profile >-rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 281 Apr 28 12:44 .bashrc >-rwxr--r-- 1 newuser newuser 120 Apr 28 12:44 .gtkrc >root at c7504s98 /home$ > >Thanks, >Faisal > > > It seems that permissions are OK. Howevwr there may be problem with a user shell - ssh and su do need working user shell (FTP does not). What is the shell for that user as shown in /etc/passwd? That value should point to a shell program (such as bash or sh) accessible and executable by that user. It is also possible that you have a problem with PAM configuration for su and ssh. Alexey Fadyushin Brainbench MVP for Linux. http://www.brainbench.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Apr 29 19:01:16 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:01:16 -0400 Subject: IP_FORWARD /etc/sysconfig/network magic words? Message-ID: <20050429150116.A14962@redline.comcast.net> In the file /etc/sysconfig/network, does the line : FORWARD_IPV4=YES actually control IP forwarding? Currently my system seems to be ignoring it. ie - I font actually get any ip-forwarding happening when the network is up unless I explicitly enable it. I know that: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward will turn it on and echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward will turn it off. Is there any option I can set in /etc/sysconfig/network or in any ofthe file under /etc/sysconfig that will automatically start IP forwarding whenever the network services are on? -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Apr 29 19:20:48 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:20:48 -0400 Subject: IP_FORWARD /etc/sysconfig/network magic words? In-Reply-To: <20050429150116.A14962@redline.comcast.net>; from jkinz@kinz.org on Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 03:01:16PM -0400 References: <20050429150116.A14962@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050429152048.A15068@redline.comcast.net> On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 03:01:16PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > In the file /etc/sysconfig/network, does the line : > > FORWARD_IPV4=YES > > actually control IP forwarding? Currently my system seems to be > ignoring it. ie - I font actually get any ip-forwarding happening when > the network is up unless I explicitly enable it. Aha! Google - almost as powerful as Rick Stevens! https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2001-May/msg01047.html indicates: ########################### QUOTE ############################### I do not thing that forward_ipv4="yes" works any more. The settings in sysctl.conf are used instead. Look at /etc/sysctl.conf. Forward_ipv4 is one of the things normaly controlled by this config file. You may also want to look at the sysctl command - it is a cleaner way to change the settings then using echo. ########################### END QUOTE ############################### In /etc/sysctl.conf: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 appears to disable forwarding. What are the security implications of changing "0" to "1" in this line? At system boot time, will the /etc/sysconfig/iptables file info be processed significantly later than the /etc/sysctl.conf info? If that is true, then do we have insecure window of time where the system will automatically forward packets anywhere? Is this significant? -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Fri Apr 29 19:22:16 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:22:16 -0400 Subject: IP_FORWARD /etc/sysconfig/network magic words? Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC0145416D@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Modify /etc/sysctl.conf And change the following from: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 To net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 Then do: sysctl -p Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kinz > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:01 PM > To: Redhat install List > Subject: IP_FORWARD /etc/sysconfig/network magic words? > > In the file /etc/sysconfig/network, does the line : > > FORWARD_IPV4=YES > > actually control IP forwarding? Currently my system seems to > be ignoring it. ie - I font actually get any ip-forwarding > happening when the network is up unless I explicitly enable it. > > I know that: > echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > will turn it on and > > echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > > will turn it off. Is there any option I can set in > /etc/sysconfig/network or in any ofthe file under > /etc/sysconfig that will automatically start IP forwarding > whenever the network services are on? > > > > > > -- > Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From robgenna at tiscali.it Fri Apr 29 19:28:57 2005 From: robgenna at tiscali.it (Roberto) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:28:57 +0200 Subject: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP Message-ID: <4202048800B1543D@mail-relay-3.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-3.tiscali.it) Hi all. I'm new of this mailing list, and I am writing here because I really need Help. I've just installed my Red Hat Linux enterprise 4 in my pc, and I have a big problem. Before the installation I used Partition Magic to partition the hard disk in order to prepare it for the linux installation. I used it with Windows XP and all seemed to be right. But after the easy installation of the Red Hat OS, I was no more able to use Windows! Actually every time I start Windows Xp it says that something is missed and before the user selection, the system crash irremediably in a blue screen. I've already tied to use provisory windows, and everything I thought to do but it always gives me the same error. So now I'm planning to make a backup of my data in the Windows partition and then reinstall the operating system, although I really don't know how to access to the windows files from linux because I am a very very Beginner (In fact I installed Linux just to learn it a little bit more!). So Please can somebody help me? What can I do? I'm really desperate, and hoping in someone helpful answer. Thank You all so much Roberto, Italy robgenna at tiscali.it -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 29 20:38:44 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:38:44 -0700 Subject: IP_FORWARD /etc/sysconfig/network magic words? In-Reply-To: <20050429152048.A15068@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050429150116.A14962@redline.comcast.net> <20050429152048.A15068@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <42729B54.1090403@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 03:01:16PM -0400, Jeff Kinz wrote: > >>In the file /etc/sysconfig/network, does the line : >> >>FORWARD_IPV4=YES >> >>actually control IP forwarding? Currently my system seems to be >>ignoring it. ie - I font actually get any ip-forwarding happening when >>the network is up unless I explicitly enable it. > > > Aha! > Google - almost as powerful as Rick Stevens! Heheheh! At least it's faster and doesn't get distracted by people wandering into its office! :-) > https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2001-May/msg01047.html > indicates: > > ########################### QUOTE ############################### > I do not thing that forward_ipv4="yes" works any more. The settings in > sysctl.conf are used instead. /etc/sysconfig/network does not control forwarding any longer. The "FORWARD_IPV4" option is ignored. In fact, it hasn't controlled it since, oh, RH7.2 or there abouts (2.2 kernels). > Look at /etc/sysctl.conf. Forward_ipv4 is one of the things normaly > controlled by this config file. You may also want to look at the sysctl > command - it is a cleaner way to change the settings then using echo. > > ########################### END QUOTE ############################### > > In /etc/sysctl.conf: > net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 > > appears to disable forwarding. > > What are the security implications of changing "0" to "1" in this line? Setting it to 1 turns on forwarding, 0 disables it. > At system boot time, will the /etc/sysconfig/iptables file info be > processed significantly later than the /etc/sysctl.conf info? iptables is set up before the forwarding is enabled or disabled, if that's what you mean. This makes sense...set up the firewall, THEN enable the network. You aren't exposed to any non-firewalled network activity that way. > If that is true, then do we have insecure window of time where > the system will automatically forward packets anywhere? You are correct. It isn't true. If you examine the /etc/rc.d/rcx.d directories, you'll find that iptables is run as "S08iptables", and the forwarding and such is set up in "S10network". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 29 20:56:10 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:56:10 -0700 Subject: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP In-Reply-To: <4202048800B1543D@mail-relay-3.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-3.tiscali.it) References: <4202048800B1543D@mail-relay-3.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-3.tiscali.it) Message-ID: <42729F6A.3080805@vitalstream.com> Roberto wrote: > Hi all. I?m new of this mailing list, and I am writing here because I > really need Help. > > I?ve just installed my Red Hat Linux enterprise 4 in my pc, and I have a > big problem. Before the installation I used Partition Magic to partition > the hard disk in order to prepare it for the linux installation. That's unnecessary unless you used it to shrink the Windows partition to make room for Linux. The easiest way is to install Windows first, but make sure that Windows doesn't suck up all of the disk space by doing a manual partition. Leave the space NOT used by windows as "free" or "unassigned". Once that's done, install Linux. When you come to the boot loader screen, make sure you install the grub loader on the master boot record of the drive ("/dev/hda" or "/dev/sda")--NOT in the Linux partition ("/dev/hda1" or "/dev/sda1"). grub will create a config file that allows you to boot either Linux or Windows (although the Windows boot will be called "Other" in the boot menu). > I used it with Windows XP and all seemed to be right. > > But after the easy installation of the Red Hat OS, I was no more able to > use Windows! Actually every time I start Windows Xp it says that > something is missed and before the user selection, the system crash > irremediably in a blue screen. You messed up the boot loader configuration of Linux. The only way to save what you have is to boot Windows from the CD and restore the MBR for Windows. You'll the ability to boot Linux, though. To recover that, you need to boot your first Linux CD in recovery mode, then do these commands: # chroot /mnt/sysimage # grub-install /dev/hda # exit # exit That should install grub in the MBR of the first hard drive and restore your ability to boot both OSes. In the future, install Windows first, but make sure you manually tell it to leave some of the disk free. You can then install Linux and make sure you tell it to install the boot loader on the MBR of the first hard drive (not partition!). Linux will take care of the rest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Whoever said "Money can't buy friends" obviously never brought - - donuts to the office. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Apr 29 20:57:26 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:57:26 -0700 Subject: rsync In-Reply-To: <002a01c54c77$a94333a0$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com><000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> <42712346.1040108@vitalstream.com> <002a01c54c77$a94333a0$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <42729FB6.4030003@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Stevens > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:24 PM > Subject: Re: rsync > > > >>ajay wrote: >> >>>i am sorry i use ncftpget and after login i enter in "tivimtech" folder > > i > >>>want all data from "From Macmillan" folder but instead getting these > > errors. > >>It's VERY difficult to follow you, Ajay. Please bottom post in the >>future (put your comments AFTER what you're commenting on as I am doing >>here). >> >>Let's get some terminology straight and make sure we understand what >>you're trying to do. >> >>Let's call the machine you're sitting in front of (the local machine) >>"systemA" and the remote machine "systemB". I'm guessing you want to >>get ALL of the files from some user's account on systemB into a >>directory on systemA. If that is the case, then create an "ftpcred" >>file in your home directory on systemA that contains these three lines: >> >>host systemB >>user name-of-user-on-systemB >>pass password-for-user-on-systemB >> >>Then, create a directory under your home directory systemA where you >>want the files to go. Let's call it "sysBfiles": >> >>mkdir sysBfiles >> >>Now, you can do the get by executing >> >>ncftpget -f ftpcred -R sysBfiles * >> >>ncftpget will try to log into systemB as the user specified in your >>ftpcred file and, if successful, will pull all of the files from that >>user's home directory and put them in your "sysBfiles" directory. > > > i type this command "ncftpget -f login.cfg -d debug -R tivim *" > and have also run it with "-F" switch, login is successful but getting > "failed to open file/could not get file size" > i am also attaching my debug report "debug" > what may be problem? Ajay, can you FTP into the remote machine? If you FTP in and do an "ls", do you get a similar error? If so, then the home directory on the remote machine for the user you're loggin in as is screwed up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - You possess a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owenewo58 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 29 22:09:09 2005 From: owenewo58 at hotmail.com (wang) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:09:09 -0700 Subject: mail command References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com><000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> <42712346.1040108@vitalstream.com><002a01c54c77$a94333a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <42729FB6.4030003@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hi, everybody, this is Owen, mail command in my Linux server worked very good before. But it stopped working now. if I type, mail owenewo58 at hotmail.com -s test text here It doesn't send out message. I don't why and can not fix it. Could somebody pelase help? Any comment will be appreciated. My Linux Server: RH 9. Owen. From robgenna at tiscali.it Sat Apr 30 02:39:37 2005 From: robgenna at tiscali.it (Roberto) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 04:39:37 +0200 Subject: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP In-Reply-To: <42729F6A.3080805@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4202030C00B1FB2D@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) Thank you very much for your reply. I've just tried the commands you told me to use in the last part of you reply, but nothing seems to be changed. In fact windows xp crashes with a blue screen that say that Session Manager Initialization has stopped in un unattended way, and so the system has been closed. In these conditions I really can do nothing, I am not able to reinstall windows without erasing its partition and with that all my important data. It's for this reason I asked you for a way to recover and save my Windows files from Linux, that is now the only os I can start. Thank you again Roberto, Italy robgenna at tiscali.it -----Messaggio originale----- Da: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Rick Stevens Inviato: venerd? 29 aprile 2005 22.56 A: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Oggetto: Re: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP Roberto wrote: > Hi all. I?m new of this mailing list, and I am writing here because I > really need Help. > > I?ve just installed my Red Hat Linux enterprise 4 in my pc, and I have a > big problem. Before the installation I used Partition Magic to partition > the hard disk in order to prepare it for the linux installation. That's unnecessary unless you used it to shrink the Windows partition to make room for Linux. The easiest way is to install Windows first, but make sure that Windows doesn't suck up all of the disk space by doing a manual partition. Leave the space NOT used by windows as "free" or "unassigned". Once that's done, install Linux. When you come to the boot loader screen, make sure you install the grub loader on the master boot record of the drive ("/dev/hda" or "/dev/sda")--NOT in the Linux partition ("/dev/hda1" or "/dev/sda1"). grub will create a config file that allows you to boot either Linux or Windows (although the Windows boot will be called "Other" in the boot menu). > I used it with Windows XP and all seemed to be right. > > But after the easy installation of the Red Hat OS, I was no more able to > use Windows! Actually every time I start Windows Xp it says that > something is missed and before the user selection, the system crash > irremediably in a blue screen. You messed up the boot loader configuration of Linux. The only way to save what you have is to boot Windows from the CD and restore the MBR for Windows. You'll the ability to boot Linux, though. To recover that, you need to boot your first Linux CD in recovery mode, then do these commands: # chroot /mnt/sysimage # grub-install /dev/hda # exit # exit That should install grub in the MBR of the first hard drive and restore your ability to boot both OSes. In the future, install Windows first, but make sure you manually tell it to leave some of the disk free. You can then install Linux and make sure you tell it to install the boot loader on the MBR of the first hard drive (not partition!). Linux will take care of the rest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Whoever said "Money can't buy friends" obviously never brought - - donuts to the office. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Sat Apr 30 10:46:58 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:46:58 +0100 Subject: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP In-Reply-To: <4202030C00B1FB2D@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) References: <4202030C00B1FB2D@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) Message-ID: <1114858017.2106.16.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 03:39, Roberto wrote: > Thank you very much for your reply. > I've just tried the commands you told me to use in the last part of you > reply, but nothing seems to be changed. > In fact windows xp crashes with a blue screen that say that Session Manager > Initialization has stopped in un unattended way, and so the system has been > closed. > In these conditions I really can do nothing, I am not able to reinstall > windows without erasing its partition and with that all my important data. > It's for this reason I asked you for a way to recover and save my Windows > files from Linux, that is now the only os I can start. > Thank you again Roberto, Without installing support for it, Linux cannot read the NTFS filesystem that a modern MS Windows uses. Microsoft do not give out the details, so the support under Linux is effectively reverse-engineered and not as good as we would like. Do you have another computer running MS Windows? If so, what I would do is to take out the disc drive and put it as a second drive into the other computer. MS Windows will recognise this as a data drive and you can back up your files. Then you can re-install both MS Windows and Linux following Rick's good advice. Alternatively, there are recovery utilities that come with MS Windows. You would need to look up how to use these. Almost certainly, there is no damage to your MS Windows installation, it is just that it is not booting properly. This is probably because the settings in the Linux boot loader (called grub) are not quite correct for your particular MS Windows installation. I dual boot with MS Windows 2000 but XP behaves somewhat differently, but if under Linux you can do these commands as root and send us the output I'm sure people on this list can help. Do "less /boot/grub/grub.conf" (you can scroll up and down with the arrow keys and "q" will quit). This file shows how it is trying to boot. Also run "fdisk -l" (this gives the partition information for your hard disc). When installing any operating system it is a very good idea to have any existing important files backed up first. Hope this helps. Chris From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Sat Apr 30 10:58:16 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:58:16 +0100 Subject: mail command In-Reply-To: References: <002401c54a14$38b1b9a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <20050426122704.GA6356@xdroop.com><00a801c54b0d$b807bca0$260210ac@tivimnet> <426FB71D.2060303@vitalstream.com><000901c54ba0$9c676700$260210ac@tivimnet> <42712346.1040108@vitalstream.com><002a01c54c77$a94333a0$260210ac@tivimnet> <42729FB6.4030003@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1114858696.2106.26.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 23:09, wang wrote: > Hi, everybody, this is Owen, > > mail command in my Linux server worked very good before. > > But it stopped working now. > > if I type, > > mail owenewo58 at hotmail.com -s test > text here > > It doesn't send out message. > > I don't why and can not fix it. > > Could somebody pelase help? > > Any comment will be appreciated. > > My Linux Server: RH 9. > > Owen. Owen, If is used to work, then something has changed to make it not work. So the question is what have you changed since it did work? I'm assuming you did put the dot on the last line of the message? That is: mail owenewo58 at hotmail.com -s test text here . Does it send mail locally, e.g.: mail root at localhost -s test text here . Assuming sendmail is your MTA, is it running? At the prompt ([chris at amdk63 chris]$ is my prompt), if you do: [chris at amdk63 chris]$ ps ax|grep sendmail 3056 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q1h 2200 pts/0 S 0:00 grep sendmail [chris at amdk63 chris]$ Do you get the "/usr/sbin/sendmail" line? Can you ping your mailserver? If you let us know these then we should be able to help you. Hope this helps Chris From stuart at sjsears.com Sat Apr 30 10:56:13 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:56:13 +0100 Subject: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP In-Reply-To: <4202030C00B1FB2D@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> References: <4202030C00B1FB2D@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) Message-ID: <200504301156.13518.stuart@sjsears.com> On Saturday 30 April 2005 03:39, Roberto wrote: > Thank you very much for your reply. > I've just tried the commands you told me to use in the last part of you > reply, but nothing seems to be changed. > In fact windows xp crashes with a blue screen that say that Session Manager > Initialization has stopped in un unattended way, and so the system has been > closed. > In these conditions I really can do nothing, I am not able to reinstall > windows without erasing its partition and with that all my important data. > It's for this reason I asked you for a way to recover and save my Windows > files from Linux, that is now the only os I can start. > Thank you again Morning ,Roberto. firstly, please bottom-post to this mailing-list (by all means ask if you're not sure what this means). Secondly... Assuming your data on Windows is on an NTFS filesystem, then recovering it form your RHEL4 installation is going to be a challenge. RHEL does not have support for NTFS filesystems. if it isn't (ie it is using FAT) then you can access the data and back it up from within RHEL. This we can help you with. to find this out, look at the output of the command fdisk -l when typed into a console as root. a line similar to this: /dev/hda2 * 26 2636 20972857+ 7 HPFS/NTFS means that you are using NTFS. (your windows line will probably start with /dev/hda1) In this case one of the only ways I can think of for accessing your data is to use a custom boot cd, like systemrescuecd - you'll find this at http://www.sysresccd.org which supports NTFS and allows you to read your data. Does anybody have any better ideas for this? do you have any kind of network access for backing up your data? if not, you could use tools in RHEL to create a new partition on your disk to copy your data, and then burn it to CD or similar within the RHEL environment. HTH Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX RTFM Dprintk("oh dear, we are idle\n"); linux-2.6.6/drivers/net/ns83820.c From robgenna at tiscali.it Sat Apr 30 12:41:22 2005 From: robgenna at tiscali.it (Roberto) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:41:22 +0200 Subject: R: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP In-Reply-To: <1114858017.2106.16.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> Message-ID: <4202035700B25928@mail-relay-4.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-4.tiscali.it) Dear sir, I have other computers with windows Xp, but the problem is that the one with all these problems is a laptop, and I really don't know how to connect its hard drive with the home pc. All I can give you is the two texts you asked me, one is the Grub.conf and the other is what it says with the command fdisk -l. Here you are: This is what fdisk -l, says Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders Units = cilindri of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Dispositivo Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 103 109 56196 de Dell Utility /dev/hda2 110 6592 52074697+ 17 HPFS/NTFS nascosto /dev/hda3 * 6593 7296 5654880 83 Linux /dev/hda4 1 102 819283+ 82 Linux swap Partition table entries are not in disk order and this is grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg. # root (hd0,2) # kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 # initrd /boot/initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=1 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu password --md5 $1$coSYMo7e$uQxMlBU84WHUB.uVSusUJ1 title Red Hat Desktop (2.6.9-5.EL) root (hd0,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-5.EL ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.9-5.EL.img title Windows XP rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 b after making changes to this file tion. This means that re relative to /, eg. ro root=/dev/hda3 mg .gz .uVSusUJ1 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet mg ~ ~ I really hope that with these someone can help me. Thank you all. PS.: I'm planning to erase linux partition, transform it in a ntfs one and install there WinXp. Then from this read the data of the other WinXP partition and save them (about 25GB) in my external usb HD. At the end I will format everything, reinstall windows in its partition and then Linux in its one too. Do you think that this will work? Or will I be as now? Bye Bye, Roberto, Italy -----Messaggio originale----- Da: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Chris Hewitt Inviato: sabato 30 aprile 2005 12.47 A: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Oggetto: Re: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 03:39, Roberto wrote: > Thank you very much for your reply. > I've just tried the commands you told me to use in the last part of you > reply, but nothing seems to be changed. > In fact windows xp crashes with a blue screen that say that Session Manager > Initialization has stopped in un unattended way, and so the system has been > closed. > In these conditions I really can do nothing, I am not able to reinstall > windows without erasing its partition and with that all my important data. > It's for this reason I asked you for a way to recover and save my Windows > files from Linux, that is now the only os I can start. > Thank you again Roberto, Without installing support for it, Linux cannot read the NTFS filesystem that a modern MS Windows uses. Microsoft do not give out the details, so the support under Linux is effectively reverse-engineered and not as good as we would like. Do you have another computer running MS Windows? If so, what I would do is to take out the disc drive and put it as a second drive into the other computer. MS Windows will recognise this as a data drive and you can back up your files. Then you can re-install both MS Windows and Linux following Rick's good advice. Alternatively, there are recovery utilities that come with MS Windows. You would need to look up how to use these. Almost certainly, there is no damage to your MS Windows installation, it is just that it is not booting properly. This is probably because the settings in the Linux boot loader (called grub) are not quite correct for your particular MS Windows installation. I dual boot with MS Windows 2000 but XP behaves somewhat differently, but if under Linux you can do these commands as root and send us the output I'm sure people on this list can help. Do "less /boot/grub/grub.conf" (you can scroll up and down with the arrow keys and "q" will quit). This file shows how it is trying to boot. Also run "fdisk -l" (this gives the partition information for your hard disc). When installing any operating system it is a very good idea to have any existing important files backed up first. Hope this helps. Chris _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Sat Apr 30 15:54:16 2005 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:54:16 -0500 Subject: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP In-Reply-To: <4202035700B25928@mail-relay-4.tiscali.it> (added bypostmaster@mail-relay-4.tiscali.it) Message-ID: <004e01c54d9c$dd1931e0$4801a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Roberto > Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 7:41 AM > To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > Subject: R: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP > > Dear sir, > I have other computers with windows Xp, but the problem is that the one > with > all these problems is a laptop, and I really don't know how to connect its > hard drive with the home pc. > All I can give you is the two texts you asked me, one is the Grub.conf and > the other is what it says with the command fdisk -l. > Here you are: > > This is what fdisk -l, says > > > Disk /dev/hda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7296 cylinders > Units = cilindri of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Dispositivo Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 103 109 56196 de Dell Utility > /dev/hda2 110 6592 52074697+ 17 HPFS/NTFS nascosto > /dev/hda3 * 6593 7296 5654880 83 Linux > /dev/hda4 1 102 819283+ 82 Linux swap > > Partition table entries are not in disk order > > and this is grub.conf > > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this > file > # NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that > # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg. > # root (hd0,2) > # kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 > # initrd /boot/initrd-version.img > #boot=/dev/hda > default=1 > timeout=5 > splashimage=(hd0,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz > hiddenmenu > password --md5 $1$coSYMo7e$uQxMlBU84WHUB.uVSusUJ1 > title Red Hat Desktop (2.6.9-5.EL) > root (hd0,2) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-5.EL ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.9-5.EL.img > title Windows XP > rootnoverify (hd0,1) > chainloader +1 > > b after making changes to this file > tion. This means that > re relative to /, eg. > > ro root=/dev/hda3 > mg > > > > .gz > > .uVSusUJ1 > > > ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > mg > > > > ~ > ~ > > > I really hope that with these someone can help me. > Thank you all. > PS.: I'm planning to erase linux partition, transform it in a ntfs one and > install there WinXp. Then from this read the data of the other WinXP > partition and save them (about 25GB) in my external usb HD. At the end I > will format everything, reinstall windows in its partition and then Linux > in > its one too. > Do you think that this will work? Or will I be as now? > > Bye Bye, > Roberto, Italy > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Chris Hewitt > Inviato: sabato 30 aprile 2005 12.47 > A: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Oggetto: Re: R: I need Help RedHat-Windows XP > > On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 03:39, Roberto wrote: > > Thank you very much for your reply. > > I've just tried the commands you told me to use in the last part of you > > reply, but nothing seems to be changed. > > In fact windows xp crashes with a blue screen that say that Session > Manager > > Initialization has stopped in un unattended way, and so the system has > been > > closed. > > In these conditions I really can do nothing, I am not able to reinstall > > windows without erasing its partition and with that all my important > data. > > It's for this reason I asked you for a way to recover and save my > Windows > > files from Linux, that is now the only os I can start. > > Thank you again > > Roberto, > > Without installing support for it, Linux cannot read the NTFS filesystem > that a modern MS Windows uses. Microsoft do not give out the details, so > the support under Linux is effectively reverse-engineered and not as > good as we would like. > > Do you have another computer running MS Windows? If so, what I would do > is to take out the disc drive and put it as a second drive into the > other computer. MS Windows will recognise this as a data drive and you > can back up your files. Then you can re-install both MS Windows and > Linux following Rick's good advice. > > Alternatively, there are recovery utilities that come with MS Windows. > You would need to look up how to use these. > > Almost certainly, there is no damage to your MS Windows installation, it > is just that it is not booting properly. This is probably because the > settings in the Linux boot loader (called grub) are not quite correct > for your particular MS Windows installation. I dual boot with MS Windows > 2000 but XP behaves somewhat differently, but if under Linux you can do > these commands as root and send us the output I'm sure people on this > list can help. Do "less /boot/grub/grub.conf" (you can scroll up and > down with the arrow keys and "q" will quit). This file shows how it is > trying to boot. Also run "fdisk -l" (this gives the partition > information for your hard disc). > > When installing any operating system it is a very good idea to have any > existing important files backed up first. > > Hope this helps. > > Chris > You might try this and it might work, get your windows rescue disk and execute the command fdisk /mbr and this should allow you to boot windows it will wipe out the grub stuff and then use the commands that you have been given to reinstall grub to the mbr. This use to work, don't know if it still will.