From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 01:15:42 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:15:42 -0800 Subject: Cisco Aironet 350 wireless in FC2-2.6.5 In-Reply-To: <41FE7892.8010803@vitalstream.com> References: <41FE725D.2030703@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b05013110112fd60fc2@mail.gmail.com> <41FE7892.8010803@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05013117156b36393a@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:27:30 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:01:01 -0800, Rick Stevens > > wrote: > > > > > >>ESSID="youressid open" > >> > > > > > > Is this where that belongs? I've been sticking a command in rc.local > > as I did not seem to find documentation on this. > > I mistyped. "open", "on", "off", "restricted", and "[x]" are valid > arguments to iwconfig's "KEY" option, so that should be on the "KEY=" > line: > > KEY="s:yourkeystring open" > > The options for ESSID are an actual ESSID or the word "any" (for access > to any network found). The startup scripts take whatever is on the line > and feeds it to iwconfig after the keyword. So a file with: > > ESSID=myessid > KEY="s:mykeystring open" > > would end up creating a line like: > > iwconfig wlan0 ESSID myessid KEY s:mykeystring open ... > > It's really pretty straight forward if you look at > "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless". > OK, I'm looking at the script. Can you elaborate on the use of the s:mykeystring? I use a 24 digit hexadecimal number. I don't see any switch based on the s: being there or not being there. What do it do? Thanks, Mark From sarangi at bpost.kek.jp Tue Feb 1 01:59:48 2005 From: sarangi at bpost.kek.jp (Tapas Ranjan) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +0900 (JST) Subject: faint X screen In-Reply-To: <41FE6CA0.20902@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > Tapas Ranjan wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > >>Tapas Ranjan wrote: > >> > >>>Hi : > >>> Though it is not a linux problem, but I thought to post it. Just > >>>two hours ago, my laptop screen got fainted. I can hardly see anything > >>>on the X. Somehow I manage to reboot it and found the same thing in > >>>Windows partition as well. The screen has almost no light in it even > >>>though there is plug-power. > >>> My first thought why this happened is probably because I watched > >>>DVD continously for few hours which broke some of the hardware inside.:( > >>>Any suggestion. > >> > >>It happens. Sounds like the backlight on your screen pooped out and > >>what you can see is only with the aid of reflected light. There's not > >>much you can do beyond doing a complete reset of the BIOS. If the > > > > > > How to do a reset of BIOS ? I have no idea. Few months ago I did a BIOS > > upgrade for this comp via DELL site. > > When you boot your machine and enter the BIOS setup (usually by hitting > the DEL key), there may be an option to reset the machine. If there is, > try it. If not, you may be able to do a hard reset, but for laptops > that usually means a trip to the repair shop (they have to open the > machine and install a jumper, then remove it). > No chance. I've sent it already to the DELL repair shop. Thanks for your answers and notes. > >>backlight did die, then getting it repaired can cost a lot of money > >>if the machine isn't under warranty. It's often cheaper to chuck the > >>machine and get a new one. I had one once that would cost $500 US to > >>repair, but a replacement machine was $1200. I went with the new > >>machine (was faster and had more RAM, to boot). > > > > > > Yes, I think it has valid warranty period. You've written somethng > > about RAM, do you think it also can caused by RAM. I had a 640 RAM > > in this comp. Can watching DVDs hamper your screen light ? Hope to get > > a reply. > > No, RAM would have nothing to do with this. It's either part of the > driver hardware or the backlight that broke. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... - > - ...once. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy Tue Feb 1 03:00:06 2005 From: gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy (gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 0:00:06 -0300 Subject: faint X screen Message-ID: <30DD9515086@ecp.imm.gub.uy> Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr? responderles. Por consultas de: - Tesorer?a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy - Contabilidad dirijase a: Ver?nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy From sarangi at bpost.kek.jp Tue Feb 1 07:23:17 2005 From: sarangi at bpost.kek.jp (Tapas Ranjan) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:23:17 +0900 (JST) Subject: Cisco Aironet 350 wireless in FC2-2.6.5 In-Reply-To: <41FE725D.2030703@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hi : There is a little change to my last mail. I switch to FC3 today, but has the same problem below. Please help. On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > Tapas Ranjan wrote: > > Hi : > > I was trying to set up a Cisco wireless lan card on a dell > > inspiron 2100 which has FC2 with 2.6.5 kernel version. > > The card blinks with "modprobe yenta_socket" and xmit packets. > > But the Rx packet is always 0 and also it can't see the access point. > > After googling in for 3-4 hours, I couldn't get any solution to my > > problem. > > I think I answered this in a previous posting by you. If this is > related to your other question, PLEASE don't start another thread. > Just reply to your own posting and put in an "UPDATE" line in the body. This is completely a different problem. In the last one everything works(at least manually), but for this one "NO". Probably the "UPDATE" word is better, but since I've started a new thread, please co-op with it. > > First, the vast majority of wireless cards under a 2.6 kernel are > "wlan0" rather than "eth1" but yours many be an exception. We need > more details as to what kind of card it is. Cisco makes a number of > wireless cards and since we don't know what kind it is, we can't > recommend which driver is the right one to use. This is a "Cisco Aironet 350 series Wireless Lan Adapter". When I started the installation of FC2 with card inserted, it asked me whether to active "eth0, eth1, wifi0" devices during boot up. So that's how the "eth1" came. > We need the output of > "cardmgr" or the contents of the "/var/lib/pcmcia/stab" file if cardmgr > is already running. The "cardmgr" is running and content of "/var/lib/pcmcia/stab" is : Socket 0: 350 Series WLAN Adapter 0 network airo_cs 0 eth1 > > > Since I don't have a "usb" drive with me write now, I am unable > > to send you the "iwconfig eth1" results. If you need that with any other > > informations, I will be glad to send it to you. Hope to get some reply. > > You need to edit the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 (or > ifcfg-wlan0) file and make sure you have lines similar to: > > DEVICE=eth1 (or DEVICE=wlan0) > ONBOOT=yes > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > ESSID="youressid open" > > That is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM for a wireless card. Absolutely perfect...I have everything already set. Here is what I see in the same place. DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=no TYPE=Wireless NETMASK= DHCP_HOSTNAME= IPADDR= DOMAIN= HWADDR=00:09:7c:39:db:ad USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes GATEWAY= IPV6INIT=no ESSID=tsubaki CHANNEL=1 MODE=Auto RATE=11Mb/s key="s:2003ae0212 open" ------ This is the result of iwconfig : lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsubaki" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535 Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:****-****-** Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality=0/160 Signal level=-107 dBm Noise level=-91 dBm Rx invalid nwid:1577 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:1614 Missed beacon:0 wifi0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsubaki" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535 Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:****-****-** Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality=0/160 Signal level=-107 dBm Noise level=-91 dBm Rx invalid nwid:1577 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:1614 Missed beacon:0 Here I don't have any idea from where this wifi0 is coming though I have deleted it using network-conguration wizard. ---------- Result of ifconfig shows : eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:09:7C:39:DB:AD inet6 addr: fe80::209:7cff:fe39:dbad/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:820 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:820 TX packets:43 errors:50 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:50 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:15084 (14.7 KiB) Interrupt:5 Base address:0x100 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:9628 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9628 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:10498964 (10.0 MiB) TX bytes:10498964 (10.0 MiB) wifi0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-09-7C-39-DB-AD-F4-EF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:2312 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:820 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:820 TX packets:43 errors:50 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:50 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:15084 (14.7 KiB) Interrupt:5 Base address:0x100 As, I have said earlier you can see RX packets:0 all the time and in iwconfig, it can't set the proper key. I tried to set the key manually but, no luck. Please help me out gurus... ---Tapas From drumilnarayan at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 11:59:23 2005 From: drumilnarayan at yahoo.com (drumil narayan) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:59:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: help required in installaing 10gids under advanced server 3.0 Message-ID: <20050201115923.34454.qmail@web8304.mail.in.yahoo.com> Hello Gurus, what are the pre and post installation tasks while, installing 10gIDS under RHAS 3.0. I tried two/three times, installation was successful and Oralce HTTP server was not getting started. During the installation it did not gave me any error. kindly suggest..drumil ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 1 17:30:01 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:30:01 -0800 Subject: Cisco Aironet 350 wireless in FC2-2.6.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41FFBC99.6060407@vitalstream.com> Tapas Ranjan wrote: > Hi : > There is a little change to my last mail. I switch to > FC3 today, but has the same problem below. Please help. > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>Tapas Ranjan wrote: >> >>>Hi : >>> I was trying to set up a Cisco wireless lan card on a dell >>>inspiron 2100 which has FC2 with 2.6.5 kernel version. >>> The card blinks with "modprobe yenta_socket" and xmit packets. >>>But the Rx packet is always 0 and also it can't see the access point. >>>After googling in for 3-4 hours, I couldn't get any solution to my >>>problem. >> >>I think I answered this in a previous posting by you. If this is >>related to your other question, PLEASE don't start another thread. >>Just reply to your own posting and put in an "UPDATE" line in the body. > > > This is completely a different problem. In the last one > everything works(at least manually), but for this one "NO". Probably > the "UPDATE" word is better, but since I've started a new thread, please > co-op with it. Fine. >>First, the vast majority of wireless cards under a 2.6 kernel are >>"wlan0" rather than "eth1" but yours many be an exception. We need >>more details as to what kind of card it is. Cisco makes a number of >>wireless cards and since we don't know what kind it is, we can't >>recommend which driver is the right one to use. > > > This is a "Cisco Aironet 350 series Wireless Lan Adapter". > When I started the installation of FC2 with card inserted, it asked me > whether to active "eth0, eth1, wifi0" devices during boot up. So > that's how the "eth1" came. > > >>We need the output of >>"cardmgr" or the contents of the "/var/lib/pcmcia/stab" file if cardmgr >>is already running. > > > The "cardmgr" is running and content of "/var/lib/pcmcia/stab" is : > > Socket 0: 350 Series WLAN Adapter > 0 network airo_cs 0 eth1 Good. It's using the airo_cs driver. >>> Since I don't have a "usb" drive with me write now, I am unable >>>to send you the "iwconfig eth1" results. If you need that with any other >>>informations, I will be glad to send it to you. Hope to get some reply. >> >>You need to edit the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 (or >>ifcfg-wlan0) file and make sure you have lines similar to: >> >>DEVICE=eth1 (or DEVICE=wlan0) >>ONBOOT=yes >>BOOTPROTO=dhcp >>ESSID="youressid open" >> >>That is the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM for a wireless card. > > > Absolutely perfect...I have everything already set. Here is what I see in > the same place. > DEVICE=eth1 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > ONBOOT=no > TYPE=Wireless > NETMASK= > DHCP_HOSTNAME= > IPADDR= > DOMAIN= > HWADDR=00:09:7c:39:db:ad > USERCTL=no > PEERDNS=yes > GATEWAY= > IPV6INIT=no > ESSID=tsubaki > CHANNEL=1 > MODE=Auto > RATE=11Mb/s > key="s:2003ae0212 open" That key is only 10 characters. What WEP key size did you set up? Most access point require AT LEAST a 64-bit WEP key (8 bytes or 16 characters), not a 40-bit, so check your access point's settings. Remember also that an "s:" in the key tells the system it's an ASCII string. If your key is supposed to be in hex, remove the "s:", > This is the result of iwconfig : > > lo no wireless extensions. > > eth0 no wireless extensions. > > sit0 no wireless extensions. > > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsubaki" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: > FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535 > Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:****-****-** Security mode:open > Power Management:off > Link Quality=0/160 Signal level=-107 dBm Noise level=-91 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:1577 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:1614 Missed beacon:0 > > wifi0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"tsubaki" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: > FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF > Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535 > Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:****-****-** Security mode:open > Power Management:off > Link Quality=0/160 Signal level=-107 dBm Noise level=-91 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:1577 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:1614 Missed beacon:0 > > Here I don't have any idea from where this wifi0 is coming though > I have deleted it using network-conguration wizard. It's part of udev and the automatic hardware probe on boot. I'd use it rather than eth1, but it's your choice. One of the issues you have here is having two cards, so "ifdown" one of them. > Result of ifconfig shows : > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:09:7C:39:DB:AD > inet6 addr: fe80::209:7cff:fe39:dbad/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:820 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:820 > TX packets:43 errors:50 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:50 Notice the error counts on both. On receive, they're all framing errors and on transmit, they're all carrier errors. That's because the card isn't seeing the access point. > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:15084 (14.7 KiB) > Interrupt:5 Base address:0x100 > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:9628 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:9628 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:10498964 (10.0 MiB) TX bytes:10498964 (10.0 MiB) > > wifi0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr > 00-09-7C-39-DB-AD-F4-EF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:2312 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:820 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:820 > TX packets:43 errors:50 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:50 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:15084 (14.7 KiB) > Interrupt:5 Base address:0x100 > > As, I have said earlier you can see RX packets:0 all the time and > in iwconfig, it can't set the proper key. I tried to set the key manually > but, no luck. Please help me out gurus... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Errors have occurred. We won't tell you where or why. We have - - lazy programmers. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 1 17:31:20 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:31:20 -0800 Subject: help required in installaing 10gids under advanced server 3.0 In-Reply-To: <20050201115923.34454.qmail@web8304.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <20050201115923.34454.qmail@web8304.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41FFBCE8.4020503@vitalstream.com> drumil narayan wrote: > Hello Gurus, > > what are the pre and post installation tasks while, > installing 10gIDS under RHAS 3.0. What is 10gIDS? Are you referring to adding ten group IDs? If so, the utility to use is "groupadd". > > I tried two/three times, installation was successful > and Oralce HTTP server was not getting started. Look at /var/log/messages and see if there are errors listed there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Polygon: A dead parrot (With apologies to John Cleese) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Feb 1 17:51:26 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:51:26 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D60CC@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Ok.. [user at machine ~]$ rsh hostname -n uptime krb_sendauth failed: You have no tickets cached 9:35am up 63 days, 19:33, 4 users, load average: 0.76, 0.61, 0.56 Machine = RHEL client Hostname = HPUX 11.11 client I don't get the Kerberos error running this command against another RHEL machine. I have searched google and found nothing. Anyone else have any ideas? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 1 18:40:40 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:40:40 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D60CC@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D60CC@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <41FFCD28.3050602@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Ok.. > > [user at machine ~]$ rsh hostname -n uptime > krb_sendauth failed: You have no tickets cached > 9:35am up 63 days, 19:33, 4 users, load average: 0.76, 0.61, 0.56 > > Machine = RHEL client > Hostname = HPUX 11.11 client > > I don't get the Kerberos error running this command against another RHEL > machine. > > I have searched google and found nothing. Anyone else have any ideas? I'll bet "hostname" was set up with kerberos user authentication, rather than simple DES or MD5. That'd cause the error. By default, RHEL uses MD5 (and/or DES), so no error would be no surprise. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Treat each day as if it's your last...a lot of crying and whining - - usually gets you what you want! -- Sam Sledge - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From koushikn at fastmail.fm Wed Feb 2 01:38:34 2005 From: koushikn at fastmail.fm (Koushik Narayanan) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 07:08:34 +0530 Subject: Logging into pppd through mgetty Message-ID: <1107308314.10511.214112845@webmail.messagingengine.com> Is the mgetty package that comes with FC3 support AutoPPP? I set AutoPPP login in /etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.conf but I get cmd='/bin/login' in /var/log/mgetty.log.ttyS? when someone tries to login. From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Feb 2 05:36:02 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:36:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: Remote Desktop Connection Message-ID: This prigram comes with RedHat 9 and I'm guessing it's there to connect with the same program running on an XP server. I can't connect. I do get an error message when I start RDC telling me I must not have SLP support configured correctly so it can't browse for connections. How can I configure SLP? Also, I know the IP for the computer I need to connect to (I can connect to it using RealVNC but I'm getting no where using RDC). So, I don't know if I need SLP as I'm not browsing (but probably will need to in the future). I'm getting pressed to use RDC and not Real. Thanks, -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From John.Rushe at axa-tech.com Wed Feb 2 08:49:48 2005 From: John.Rushe at axa-tech.com (RUSHE John (AXA-TECH-UK)) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:49:48 -0000 Subject: help required in installaing 10gids under advanced server 3.0 Message-ID: I think he is referring to Oracle 10g..... -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: 01 February 2005 17:31 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: help required in installaing 10gids under advanced server 3.0 drumil narayan wrote: > Hello Gurus, > > what are the pre and post installation tasks while, > installing 10gIDS under RHAS 3.0. What is 10gIDS? Are you referring to adding ten group IDs? If so, the utility to use is "groupadd". > > I tried two/three times, installation was successful > and Oralce HTTP server was not getting started. 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Thanks Jeff From mikev777 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 2 17:39:13 2005 From: mikev777 at hotmail.com (Michael Velez) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:39:13 -0500 Subject: help required in installaing 10gids under advanced server 3.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of RUSHE John (AXA-TECH-UK) > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:50 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: RE: help required in installaing 10gids under advanced server 3.0 > > I think he is referring to Oracle 10g..... > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Stevens > Sent: 01 February 2005 17:31 > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: help required in installaing 10gids under advanced server > 3.0 > > drumil narayan wrote: > > Hello Gurus, > > > > what are the pre and post installation tasks while, > > installing 10gIDS under RHAS 3.0. > > What is 10gIDS? Are you referring to adding ten group IDs? If so, > the utility to use is "groupadd". > > > > > I tried two/three times, installation was successful > > and Oralce HTTP server was not getting started. > > Look at /var/log/messages and see if there are errors listed there. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Polygon: A dead parrot (With apologies to John Cleese) - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > ******************************************************************* > This email originates from AXA Technology Services UK > Limited (reg. no. 1854856) which has its registered office > at 107 Cheapside, London EC2V 6DU, England. > > This message and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended solely for the individual or > entity to whom they are addressed. 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Michael From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 2 17:59:12 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 09:59:12 -0800 Subject: proper ip address aliasing In-Reply-To: <42010F8D.8060405@azimapower.com> References: <42010F8D.8060405@azimapower.com> Message-ID: <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> jdyke wrote: > I need to add a group of virutal ips to a single interface on FC3. I've > used > `ip addr add 192.168.2.XX dev eth0` to add the ips which worked fine, > but what is the best/proper way to add them at boot up. I'd assume i > could add them in rc.local which should work? but is that right? The proper way is to create additional scripts in the "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" directory. They should be named "ifcfg-eth0:x", with "x" being the alias number. If you're adding 3 aliases to eth0, for example, the files would be: ifcfg-eth0 (primary, leave it alone) ifcfg-eth0:1 (first alias) ifcfg-eth0:2 (second alias) ifcfg-eth0:3 (third alias) Inside those "ifcfg-eth0:x" scripts, you only need four lines: DEVICE=eth0:x (replace "x" with the alias number) IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx NETMASK=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ONBOOT=yes The first one, "ifcfg-eth0" should be left alone, as it sets up the base device. That's the "official" way to do it and the way "system-config-network" or "Fedora Icon->System Settings->Network" do it, which would allow you to manage them via the GUI system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When all else fails, try reading the instructions. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 2 18:14:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 10:14:08 -0800 Subject: Logging into pppd through mgetty In-Reply-To: <1107308314.10511.214112845@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1107308314.10511.214112845@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <42011870.7050209@vitalstream.com> Koushik Narayanan wrote: > Is the mgetty package that comes with FC3 support AutoPPP? > I set AutoPPP login in /etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.conf but I get > cmd='/bin/login' in /var/log/mgetty.log.ttyS? when someone tries to > login. That's indicative that you don't have the config set right, as the default behaviour of mgetty is to run login. The line in /etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.conf should read something like: /AutoPPP/ - a_ppp /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login debug (the "/" characters MUST be present around the "AutoPPP" bit). You must also restart the mgetty processes on the serial lines after buggering this file (I can't recall if a SIGHUP is enough). If you have the mgettys running via "respawn" entries in /etc/inittab, simply killing the existing mgettys will cause them to restart. You can do this via (as root): # killall mgetty or do a "ps ef | grep mgetty" and kill the processes you want. If they aren't run via inittab, then you could try sending them a SIGHUP: # killall -HUP mgetty ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 2 19:12:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:12:15 -0800 Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4201260F.2060104@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > This prigram comes with RedHat 9 and I'm guessing it's there to > connect with the same program running on an XP server. Uh, are you referring to "rdesktop"? > I can't connect. I do get an error message when I start RDC > telling me I must not have SLP support configured correctly so it > can't browse for connections. How can I configure SLP? Also, I > know the IP for the computer I need to connect to (I can connect > to it using RealVNC but I'm getting no where using RDC). So, I > don't know if I need SLP as I'm not browsing (but probably will > need to in the future). I'm getting pressed to use RDC and not > Real. If we're dealing with rdesktop, the other end (the Windows machine) has to be running its "terminal services" server. If the remote end is XP/Home, you're out of luck because XP/Home doesn't have a terminal services server package and this whole discussion is moot. You can set up "remote assistance" on XP/Home, but it's not quite the same. As far as SLP is concerned, I think that means you have to have Samba configured and running so it can browse the network and find nodes that have terminal services running. If you know the IP address or DNS hostname, you don't need it. The only reason for not using VNC is because the VNC server at the remote end lets you take over the remote machine and only one connection at a time is allowed. I believe the Windows VNC server can be set up to allow VNC as a session (like remote desktop) and allow multiple connections. IMHO, I really don't see any benefit in rdesktop over VNC and I can't see why you're being pressed to use rdesktop. We have literally hundreds of servers here and we use VNC almost exclusively. The nice thing about VNC is that it works equally well on Windows and Unix/Linux. One tool for multiple jobs. That's a "good thing". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Millihelen, adj: The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jdyke at azimapower.com Wed Feb 2 19:36:52 2005 From: jdyke at azimapower.com (jdyke) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:36:52 -0500 Subject: proper ip address aliasing In-Reply-To: <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> References: <42010F8D.8060405@azimapower.com> <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42012BD4.9020602@azimapower.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > jdyke wrote: > >> I need to add a group of virutal ips to a single interface on FC3. >> I've used >> `ip addr add 192.168.2.XX dev eth0` to add the ips which worked fine, >> but what is the best/proper way to add them at boot up. I'd assume i >> could add them in rc.local which should work? but is that right? > > > The proper way is to create additional scripts in the > "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" directory. They should be named > "ifcfg-eth0:x", with "x" being the alias number. If you're adding 3 > aliases to eth0, for example, the files would be: > > ifcfg-eth0 (primary, leave it alone) > ifcfg-eth0:1 (first alias) > ifcfg-eth0:2 (second alias) > ifcfg-eth0:3 (third alias) > > Inside those "ifcfg-eth0:x" scripts, you only need four lines: > > DEVICE=eth0:x (replace "x" with the alias number) > IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > NETMASK=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > ONBOOT=yes > > The first one, "ifcfg-eth0" should be left alone, as it sets up the > base device. > > That's the "official" way to do it and the way "system-config-network" > or "Fedora Icon->System Settings->Network" do it, which would allow you > to manage them via the GUI system. Aha, was looking at that way but was unsure of the syntax/required pieces. Thanks much. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - When all else fails, try reading the instructions. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 19:39:58 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:39:58 -0800 Subject: Better wireless security as well as more speed Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05020211394912443a@mail.gmail.com> Hi, As I was working on this ogg file server project here at home I was running 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' and, low and behold, just this morning a new router turned on in my neighborhood. (Or it just became visible...) I removed all power and Ethernet connections from my router and continued scanning. The other cell was there (and still is) with a different hardware address so I assume it's real. Anyway, this prompted me to look at my setups again and try to go to the next level of both speed and security. My setup: Router - Netgear 802.11b/g that also supports 108Mb/S PCs - 2 FC2 machines with DWL-510G cards running under ndiswrapper 1) As a 1st step I changed my ESSID on all stations to a fairly random string of letters and numbers. Took the network down and back up. Everyone is still connected and the new ESSID shows up under iwlist wlan0 scanning. However I assume that this means anyone scanning in the neighborhood can get my ESSID so it would seemingly not help alot. I changed it because stupidly the ESSID before was my home address. Not smart. 2) As a second step I attempted to look at what options I have for security options in the router. What it offers is: Security: - Disable - WEP - WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key) Disable seems a bad choice. I've been using WEP as it seems to align better with most of the examples in the Linux wireless HOWTO's. Is it the best? WEP offers the following in my router: Security Encryption (WEP) Authentication Type: (Automatic, Open System and Shared Key) Encryption Strength: (64, 128 and 152 bit) and then 4 keys. I had been using WEP, Open System and 128bit. I'm concerned that 'Open System' means it broadcasts my ESSID which I'd like it not to do. Is this what happens? If so does Shared Key or Automatic NOT broadcast the ESSID? The router also offers WPA-PSK. When I choose that it offers only an 8-63 character passphrase. Would this be better? 3) I'd also like to set the system up for 802.11g only operation if my ndiswrapper stuff will work. How can I do this? As a first try I set the router to g & b operation on channel 11. I then went to the wireless PC and set up ifcfg-wlan0 to this: [root at dragonfly root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 # DLink DWL-520 using ndiswrapper IPV6INIT=no BOOTPROTO=static ONBOOT=yes USERCTL=no PEERDNS=no GATEWAY=192.168.10.3 TYPE=Wireless DEVICE=wlan0 HWADDR=(wnic HW address) NETMASK=255.255.255.0 IPADDR=192.168.10.52 ESSID=(Long random ESSID) CHANNEL=5 KEY="(26 HEX characters) Restricted" MODE=Managed RATE=54Mb/s [root at dragonfly root]# After restarting the network I see this: wlan0 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"(long random ESSID)" Nickname:"dragonfly" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Access Point: (router HW addr.) Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power:20 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 RTS thr=2432 B Fragment thr=2432 B Encryption key:(26 HEX characters) Security mode:restricted Power Management:off Link Quality:100/100 Signal level:-56 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 So it appears that I'm only getting 11Mb/S. Can I improve on this? And currently the other router is apparently still out there: [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. Some things may be broken... wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:4F:EB:16 ESSID:"NETGEAR" Protocol:IEEE 802.11b Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Quality:0/100 Signal level:-72 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm Encryption key:off Bit Rate:1Mb/s Bit Rate:2Mb/s Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Bit Rate:11Mb/s Bit Rate:52Mb/s Extra:bcn_int=100 Extra:atim=0 Cell 02 - Address: (My router's HW address) ESSID:"(Long random ESSID)" Protocol:IEEE 802.11b Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Quality:0/100 Signal level:-49 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm Encryption key:on Bit Rate:1Mb/s Bit Rate:2Mb/s Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Bit Rate:11Mb/s Bit Rate:6Mb/s Bit Rate:12Mb/s Bit Rate:24Mb/s Bit Rate:36Mb/s Bit Rate:33Mb/s Extra:bcn_int=100 Extra:atim=0 [root at dragonfly root]# Thanks in advance for any and all ideas. Cheers, Mark From kens at geodax.com Wed Feb 2 21:59:59 2005 From: kens at geodax.com (Ken Scott) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:59:59 -0500 Subject: proper ip address aliasing In-Reply-To: <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> References: <42010F8D.8060405@azimapower.com> <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1107381598.26223.58.camel@KENS02L> On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 12:59, Rick Stevens wrote: > jdyke wrote: > > I need to add a group of virutal ips to a single interface on FC3. I've > > used > > `ip addr add 192.168.2.XX dev eth0` to add the ips which worked fine, > > but what is the best/proper way to add them at boot up. I'd assume i > > could add them in rc.local which should work? but is that right? > > The proper way is to create additional scripts in the > "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" directory. They should be named > "ifcfg-eth0:x", with "x" being the alias number. If you're adding 3 > aliases to eth0, for example, the files would be: > > ifcfg-eth0 (primary, leave it alone) > ifcfg-eth0:1 (first alias) > ifcfg-eth0:2 (second alias) > ifcfg-eth0:3 (third alias) > > Inside those "ifcfg-eth0:x" scripts, you only need four lines: > > DEVICE=eth0:x (replace "x" with the alias number) > IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > NETMASK=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > ONBOOT=yes > > The first one, "ifcfg-eth0" should be left alone, as it sets up the > base device. > > That's the "official" way to do it and the way "system-config-network" > or "Fedora Icon->System Settings->Network" do it, which would allow you > to manage them via the GUI system. I have not had occasion to use this "virtual IP" technique but I appreciate the procedure. Does this mean that I can take my development box (192.168.0.100) and assign it a virtual IP on a different subnet (say 192.168.2.100) so that it could talk to a another box I have on the local network temporarily (which I am working on for someone else)? My machine only has a single network card in it. That would be great if true, I could leave both my machine's IP alone and the other device's IP as well and simply change the virtual IP so that they could talk. Seems so elegant that it probably does work that way (since it is after all Linux)! I know that I can change my internal IP to match the target machine but that solution doesn't allow concurrent web access. Thanks in advance. Ken From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Thu Feb 3 00:09:25 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:09:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: <4201260F.2060104@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > This prigram comes with RedHat 9 and I'm guessing it's there to > > connect with the same program running on an XP server. > > Uh, are you referring to "rdesktop"? No, looking at the properties I am running krdc -caption "%c" %i %m I take it that it meand "KDE Remote Desktop Connection" but I could be wrong. There is no man or info for krdc on my machine. > > > I can't connect. I do get an error message when I start RDC > > telling me I must not have SLP support configured correctly so it > > can't browse for connections. How can I configure SLP? Also, I > > know the IP for the computer I need to connect to (I can connect > > to it using RealVNC but I'm getting no where using RDC). So, I > > don't know if I need SLP as I'm not browsing (but probably will > > need to in the future). I'm getting pressed to use RDC and not > > Real. > > If we're dealing with rdesktop, the other end (the Windows machine) has > to be running its "terminal services" server. If the remote end is > XP/Home, you're out of luck because XP/Home doesn't have a terminal > services server package and this whole discussion is moot. You can set > up "remote assistance" on XP/Home, but it's not quite the same. Windows XP comes with some Host and Client remote software they call "Remote Desktop" you can get the Client for every version of windows and I was hopeing this was the one for Linux. > > As far as SLP is concerned, I think that means you have to have Samba > configured and running so it can browse the network and find nodes that > have terminal services running. If you know the IP address or DNS > hostname, you don't need it. > I did a double check before coming home and verified the Host name and IP - neither gets me in. In the instuctions for the Windows client it only talks about using the name (no IP). > The only reason for not using VNC is because the VNC server at the > remote end lets you take over the remote machine and only one connection > at a time is allowed. I believe the Windows VNC server can be set up to > allow VNC as a session (like remote desktop) and allow multiple > connections. > > IMHO, I really don't see any benefit in rdesktop over VNC and I can't > see why you're being pressed to use rdesktop. We have literally > hundreds of servers here and we use VNC almost exclusively. The nice > thing about VNC is that it works equally well on Windows and Unix/Linux. > One tool for multiple jobs. That's a "good thing". I don't see any benefit either other than the systems guys don't want another layer of stuff running on the machines. Thanks, I'll keep checking and reading. The biggest problem is Remote Desktop is a generic term so it's hard to cut it down to just the Windows software running it. -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 00:20:40 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:20:40 -0800 Subject: proper ip address aliasing In-Reply-To: <1107381598.26223.58.camel@KENS02L> References: <42010F8D.8060405@azimapower.com> <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> <1107381598.26223.58.camel@KENS02L> Message-ID: <42016E58.4000704@vitalstream.com> Ken Scott wrote: > On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 12:59, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>jdyke wrote: >> >>>I need to add a group of virutal ips to a single interface on FC3. I've >>>used >>>`ip addr add 192.168.2.XX dev eth0` to add the ips which worked fine, >>>but what is the best/proper way to add them at boot up. I'd assume i >>>could add them in rc.local which should work? but is that right? >> >>The proper way is to create additional scripts in the >>"/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" directory. They should be named >>"ifcfg-eth0:x", with "x" being the alias number. If you're adding 3 >>aliases to eth0, for example, the files would be: >> >> ifcfg-eth0 (primary, leave it alone) >> ifcfg-eth0:1 (first alias) >> ifcfg-eth0:2 (second alias) >> ifcfg-eth0:3 (third alias) >> >>Inside those "ifcfg-eth0:x" scripts, you only need four lines: >> >> DEVICE=eth0:x (replace "x" with the alias number) >> IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >> NETMASK=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >> ONBOOT=yes >> >>The first one, "ifcfg-eth0" should be left alone, as it sets up the >>base device. >> >>That's the "official" way to do it and the way "system-config-network" >>or "Fedora Icon->System Settings->Network" do it, which would allow you >>to manage them via the GUI system. > > > I have not had occasion to use this "virtual IP" technique but I > appreciate the procedure. Technically it's called "IP aliasing". > Does this mean that I can take my development > box (192.168.0.100) and assign it a virtual IP on a different subnet > (say 192.168.2.100) so that it could talk to a another box I have on > the local network temporarily (which I am working on for someone else)? > My machine only has a single network card in it. Yes you can, but you have to be careful as your switch/router may not allow you to cross subnet boundries. For most people it'll work fine. > That would be great if true, I could leave both my machine's IP alone > and the other device's IP as well and simply change the virtual IP so > that they could talk. We do it a lot, but again, watch your routers and switches. Also remember that your _default_ route will remain the same. It will add another _network_ route, but not a default one. > Seems so elegant that it probably does work that way (since it is after > all Linux)! Simple is elegant. That's Unix/Linux in a nutshell. > I know that I can change my internal IP to match the target machine but > that solution doesn't allow concurrent web access. This is the cheap solution. Historical note: Before hostheaders were invented in HTTP 1.1, this is how you got a web server to handle multiple websites. Each site got an individual IP address and you aliased the NIC card out the wazoo. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Careful! Ugly strikes 9 out of 10 people! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 00:34:30 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:34:30 -0800 Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42017196.8080809@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>>This prigram comes with RedHat 9 and I'm guessing it's there to >>>connect with the same program running on an XP server. >> >>Uh, are you referring to "rdesktop"? > > > No, looking at the properties I am running krdc -caption "%c" %i > %m I take it that it meand "KDE Remote Desktop Connection" but > I could be wrong. There is no man or info for krdc on my > machine. krdc is KDE's front end to rdesktop. >>>I can't connect. I do get an error message when I start RDC >>>telling me I must not have SLP support configured correctly so it >>>can't browse for connections. How can I configure SLP? Also, I >>>know the IP for the computer I need to connect to (I can connect >>>to it using RealVNC but I'm getting no where using RDC). So, I >>>don't know if I need SLP as I'm not browsing (but probably will >>>need to in the future). I'm getting pressed to use RDC and not >>>Real. >> >>If we're dealing with rdesktop, the other end (the Windows machine) has >>to be running its "terminal services" server. If the remote end is >>XP/Home, you're out of luck because XP/Home doesn't have a terminal >>services server package and this whole discussion is moot. You can set >>up "remote assistance" on XP/Home, but it's not quite the same. > > > Windows XP comes with some Host and Client remote software they > call "Remote Desktop" you can get the Client for every version > of windows and I was hopeing this was the one for Linux. Again, that's gotta be XP/Pro. XP/Home doesn't have it. >>As far as SLP is concerned, I think that means you have to have Samba >>configured and running so it can browse the network and find nodes that >>have terminal services running. If you know the IP address or DNS >>hostname, you don't need it. >> > > I did a double check before coming home and verified the Host > name and IP - neither gets me in. In the instuctions for the > Windows client it only talks about using the name (no IP). Do you have iptables running? rdesktop uses TCP port 3389. >>The only reason for not using VNC is because the VNC server at the >>remote end lets you take over the remote machine and only one connection >>at a time is allowed. I believe the Windows VNC server can be set up to >>allow VNC as a session (like remote desktop) and allow multiple >>connections. >> >>IMHO, I really don't see any benefit in rdesktop over VNC and I can't >>see why you're being pressed to use rdesktop. We have literally >>hundreds of servers here and we use VNC almost exclusively. The nice >>thing about VNC is that it works equally well on Windows and Unix/Linux. >>One tool for multiple jobs. That's a "good thing". > > > I don't see any benefit either other than the systems guys don't > want another layer of stuff running on the machines. > > Thanks, I'll keep checking and reading. The biggest problem is > Remote Desktop is a generic term so it's hard to cut it down to > just the Windows software running it. I'm sure it's RDP (remote desktop protocol). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Thu Feb 3 03:28:39 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:28:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: <42017196.8080809@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > krdc is KDE's front end to rdesktop. > > Again, that's gotta be XP/Pro. XP/Home doesn't have it. > > Do you have iptables running? rdesktop uses TCP port 3389. > > I'm sure it's RDP (remote desktop protocol). OK so I'm using rdesktop to talk to XP/Pro (actually Home is suppose to have it but it doesn't by default install it, it's suppose to be on the disk someplace but Yes we are using Pro at work. OK, now we know what I'm doing (that's a major step) has anyone had the problems I'm having? I don't believe I'm got iptables running, I'm behind a different firewall at home and figured I didn't need the extra headache of keeping iptables going but I may have started it by mistake (how do I tell?). Again, I use VPN to get into my work computers then I use RealVNC to access some of the machines and as they convert machines to XP/Pro they want me to start using "Remote Desktop" as it comes with XP/Pro and they have enough problems keeping the machines working not to have to worry about me wanting to use Linux. When I start "Remote Desktop Connection" that comes with RedHat 9 I get an error message saying I must not have SLP as it can't browse the network. I do have samba working (at least it can see the windows machines in my house and we share printers). Using RDC I can't get on any of the XP machines even knowing the machine name and IP. Just says it can't find it. OK, I believe that's what going on. Suggestions? Thanks, Brad From gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy Thu Feb 3 04:29:12 2005 From: gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy (gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 1:29:12 -0300 Subject: Remote Desktop Connection Message-ID: <33F5973056C@ecp.imm.gub.uy> Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr? responderles. Por consultas de: - Tesorer?a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy - Contabilidad dirijase a: Ver?nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy From kens at geodax.com Thu Feb 3 13:46:44 2005 From: kens at geodax.com (Ken Scott) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:46:44 -0500 Subject: proper ip address aliasing In-Reply-To: <42016E58.4000704@vitalstream.com> References: <42010F8D.8060405@azimapower.com> <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> <1107381598.26223.58.camel@KENS02L> <42016E58.4000704@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1107438404.26223.69.camel@KENS02L> On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 19:20, Rick Stevens wrote: > Ken Scott wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 12:59, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>jdyke wrote: > >> > >>>I need to add a group of virutal ips to a single interface on FC3. I've > >>>used > >>>`ip addr add 192.168.2.XX dev eth0` to add the ips which worked fine, > >>>but what is the best/proper way to add them at boot up. I'd assume i > >>>could add them in rc.local which should work? but is that right? > >> > >>The proper way is to create additional scripts in the > >>"/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" directory. They should be named > >>"ifcfg-eth0:x", with "x" being the alias number. If you're adding 3 > >>aliases to eth0, for example, the files would be: > >> > >> ifcfg-eth0 (primary, leave it alone) > >> ifcfg-eth0:1 (first alias) > >> ifcfg-eth0:2 (second alias) > >> ifcfg-eth0:3 (third alias) > >> > >>Inside those "ifcfg-eth0:x" scripts, you only need four lines: > >> > >> DEVICE=eth0:x (replace "x" with the alias number) > >> IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > >> NETMASK=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > >> ONBOOT=yes > >> > >>The first one, "ifcfg-eth0" should be left alone, as it sets up the > >>base device. > >> > >>That's the "official" way to do it and the way "system-config-network" > >>or "Fedora Icon->System Settings->Network" do it, which would allow you > >>to manage them via the GUI system. > > > > > > I have not had occasion to use this "virtual IP" technique but I > > appreciate the procedure. > > Technically it's called "IP aliasing". > > > Does this mean that I can take my development > > box (192.168.0.100) and assign it a virtual IP on a different subnet > > (say 192.168.2.100) so that it could talk to a another box I have on > > the local network temporarily (which I am working on for someone else)? > > My machine only has a single network card in it. > > Yes you can, but you have to be careful as your switch/router may not > allow you to cross subnet boundries. For most people it'll work fine. > > > That would be great if true, I could leave both my machine's IP alone > > and the other device's IP as well and simply change the virtual IP so > > that they could talk. > > We do it a lot, but again, watch your routers and switches. Also > remember that your _default_ route will remain the same. It will add > another _network_ route, but not a default one. > > > Seems so elegant that it probably does work that way (since it is after > > all Linux)! > > Simple is elegant. That's Unix/Linux in a nutshell. > > > I know that I can change my internal IP to match the target machine but > > that solution doesn't allow concurrent web access. > > This is the cheap solution. > > Historical note: Before hostheaders were invented in HTTP 1.1, this is > how you got a web server to handle multiple websites. Each site got an > individual IP address and you aliased the NIC card out the wazoo. Thanks a lot. That is very helpful and informative. One last perhaps slightly off-forum question, is the configuration procedure above specific to Red Hat/Fedora or does it apply more generally to other Linux distributions (specifically Debian)? Ken From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Thu Feb 3 16:31:29 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:31:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: References: <42017196.8080809@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <43796.207.173.117.242.1107448289.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> >> krdc is KDE's front end to rdesktop. >> >> Again, that's gotta be XP/Pro. XP/Home doesn't have it. >> >> Do you have iptables running? rdesktop uses TCP port 3389. >> >> I'm sure it's RDP (remote desktop protocol). > > OK so I'm using rdesktop to talk to XP/Pro (actually Home is > suppose to have it but it doesn't by default install it, it's > suppose to be on the disk someplace but Yes we are using Pro at > work. > > OK, now we know what I'm doing (that's a major step) has anyone > had the problems I'm having? I don't believe I'm got iptables > running, I'm behind a different firewall at home and figured I > didn't need the extra headache of keeping iptables going but I may > have started it by mistake (how do I tell?). > > Again, I use VPN to get into my work computers then I use RealVNC > to access some of the machines and as they convert machines to > XP/Pro they want me to start using "Remote Desktop" as it comes > with XP/Pro and they have enough problems keeping the machines > working not to have to worry about me wanting to use Linux. > > When I start "Remote Desktop Connection" that comes with RedHat 9 > I get an error message saying I must not have SLP as it can't > browse the network. I do have samba working (at least it can > see the windows machines in my house and we share printers). > > Using RDC I can't get on any of the XP machines even knowing the > machine name and IP. Just says it can't find it. > > OK, I believe that's what going on. First, I recommend NOT using RDESKTOP to Windows XP, period. The reason? When you connect, you take over the machine and kick the person off that's using it. It's not at all like VNC because they can't see what you are doing. The just see the login screen and if they login, you get kicked off. Okay, if you can't use VNC anymore, then good luck keeping your users happy and here's how to get Rdesktop working (I run it from a command prompt when I need it). One solution you may have missed is that on XP you have to open the Control Panel, click on the Security Center, then click on the Windows Firewall at the bottom of the screen. You can have the On radio button clicked, but then click on Exceptions and make sure Remote Desktop is checked. I also make it a habit to add Run VNC Server by clicking on Add Programs and then selecting Run VNC Server as an option. It knows what ports to open. Click on OK and you should be able to connect, after a reboot perhaps. HTH, Karl > > Suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Brad > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Feb 3 17:11:45 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 09:11:45 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D6390@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:41 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Issues with rsh and kerberos > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > Ok.. > > > > [user at machine ~]$ rsh hostname -n uptime > > krb_sendauth failed: You have no tickets cached > > 9:35am up 63 days, 19:33, 4 users, load average: 0.76, 0.61, 0.56 > > > > Machine = RHEL client > > Hostname = HPUX 11.11 client > > > > I don't get the Kerberos error running this command against another RHEL > > machine. > > > > I have searched google and found nothing. Anyone else have any ideas? > > I'll bet "hostname" was set up with kerberos user authentication, rather > than simple DES or MD5. That'd cause the error. By default, RHEL uses > MD5 (and/or DES), so no error would be no surprise. I would bet that is the case. As the HP systems don't use MD5 anywhere. Is there a way you know of, without changing the HP systems, to get rid of that error? (I can see calls from users on this when we go to the new NIS master running RHEL vs. the old running HP/UX.) From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 18:30:54 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:30:54 -0800 Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42026DDE.4020100@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>krdc is KDE's front end to rdesktop. >> >>Again, that's gotta be XP/Pro. XP/Home doesn't have it. >> >>Do you have iptables running? rdesktop uses TCP port 3389. >> >>I'm sure it's RDP (remote desktop protocol). > > > OK so I'm using rdesktop to talk to XP/Pro (actually Home is > suppose to have it but it doesn't by default install it, it's > suppose to be on the disk someplace but Yes we are using Pro at > work. I guessed as much. > OK, now we know what I'm doing (that's a major step) has anyone > had the problems I'm having? I don't believe I'm got iptables > running, I'm behind a different firewall at home and figured I > didn't need the extra headache of keeping iptables going but I may > have started it by mistake (how do I tell?). Do "iptables -L -n". If you get a list of rules, you're running it. > Again, I use VPN to get into my work computers then I use RealVNC > to access some of the machines and as they convert machines to > XP/Pro they want me to start using "Remote Desktop" as it comes > with XP/Pro and they have enough problems keeping the machines > working not to have to worry about me wanting to use Linux. > > When I start "Remote Desktop Connection" that comes with RedHat 9 > I get an error message saying I must not have SLP as it can't > browse the network. I do have samba working (at least it can > see the windows machines in my house and we share printers). I did a bit of research and SLP is "service locator protocol". I've never used it. AFAIK, it's not part of any Red Hat or Fedora install, but it is available from openslp.org. Wait, are you trying to run rdesktop from home to see your stuff at the office, or are you trying to run rdesktop on a machine at the office to see stuff at the office? > Using RDC I can't get on any of the XP machines even knowing the > machine name and IP. Just says it can't find it. If you're trying it from home, I can believe that. My guess is that office firewall is blocking you or the VPN isn't aliasing you. Your home machine can't browse the office network. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 18:42:52 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 10:42:52 -0800 Subject: proper ip address aliasing In-Reply-To: <1107438404.26223.69.camel@KENS02L> References: <42010F8D.8060405@azimapower.com> <420114F0.5040705@vitalstream.com> <1107381598.26223.58.camel@KENS02L> <42016E58.4000704@vitalstream.com> <1107438404.26223.69.camel@KENS02L> Message-ID: <420270AC.8030909@vitalstream.com> Ken Scott wrote: > On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 19:20, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Ken Scott wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 12:59, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> >>>>jdyke wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I need to add a group of virutal ips to a single interface on FC3. I've >>>>>used >>>>>`ip addr add 192.168.2.XX dev eth0` to add the ips which worked fine, >>>>>but what is the best/proper way to add them at boot up. I'd assume i >>>>>could add them in rc.local which should work? but is that right? >>>> >>>>The proper way is to create additional scripts in the >>>>"/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts" directory. They should be named >>>>"ifcfg-eth0:x", with "x" being the alias number. If you're adding 3 >>>>aliases to eth0, for example, the files would be: >>>> >>>> ifcfg-eth0 (primary, leave it alone) >>>> ifcfg-eth0:1 (first alias) >>>> ifcfg-eth0:2 (second alias) >>>> ifcfg-eth0:3 (third alias) >>>> >>>>Inside those "ifcfg-eth0:x" scripts, you only need four lines: >>>> >>>> DEVICE=eth0:x (replace "x" with the alias number) >>>> IPADDR=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >>>> NETMASK=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >>>> ONBOOT=yes >>>> >>>>The first one, "ifcfg-eth0" should be left alone, as it sets up the >>>>base device. >>>> >>>>That's the "official" way to do it and the way "system-config-network" >>>>or "Fedora Icon->System Settings->Network" do it, which would allow you >>>>to manage them via the GUI system. >>> >>> >>>I have not had occasion to use this "virtual IP" technique but I >>>appreciate the procedure. >> >>Technically it's called "IP aliasing". >> >> >>> Does this mean that I can take my development >>>box (192.168.0.100) and assign it a virtual IP on a different subnet >>>(say 192.168.2.100) so that it could talk to a another box I have on >>>the local network temporarily (which I am working on for someone else)? >>>My machine only has a single network card in it. >> >>Yes you can, but you have to be careful as your switch/router may not >>allow you to cross subnet boundries. For most people it'll work fine. >> >> >>>That would be great if true, I could leave both my machine's IP alone >>>and the other device's IP as well and simply change the virtual IP so >>>that they could talk. >> >>We do it a lot, but again, watch your routers and switches. Also >>remember that your _default_ route will remain the same. It will add >>another _network_ route, but not a default one. >> >> >>>Seems so elegant that it probably does work that way (since it is after >>>all Linux)! >> >>Simple is elegant. That's Unix/Linux in a nutshell. >> >> >>>I know that I can change my internal IP to match the target machine but >>>that solution doesn't allow concurrent web access. >> >>This is the cheap solution. >> >>Historical note: Before hostheaders were invented in HTTP 1.1, this is >>how you got a web server to handle multiple websites. Each site got an >>individual IP address and you aliased the NIC card out the wazoo. > > > Thanks a lot. That is very helpful and informative. One last perhaps > slightly off-forum question, is the configuration procedure above > specific to Red Hat/Fedora or does it apply more generally to other > Linux distributions (specifically Debian)? Probably most Linuxen have something similar. You should check the "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network" script and see how it brings up the network. If you see a reference something like: cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts then the odds are it uses a similar thing. If you analyze the script, you'll see where it finds the alias stuff (it's an "ls" command followed by a rather involved egrep/awk script). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - ...Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror - - and you'd be on your own, pal! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 19:06:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:06:27 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D6390@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D6390@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <42027633.3080400@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:41 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: Issues with rsh and kerberos >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>Ok.. >>> >>>[user at machine ~]$ rsh hostname -n uptime >>>krb_sendauth failed: You have no tickets cached >>> 9:35am up 63 days, 19:33, 4 users, load average: 0.76, 0.61, > > 0.56 > >>>Machine = RHEL client >>>Hostname = HPUX 11.11 client >>> >>>I don't get the Kerberos error running this command against another > > RHEL > >>>machine. >>> >>>I have searched google and found nothing. Anyone else have any > > ideas? > >>I'll bet "hostname" was set up with kerberos user authentication, > > rather > >>than simple DES or MD5. That'd cause the error. By default, RHEL > > uses > >>MD5 (and/or DES), so no error would be no surprise. > > > I would bet that is the case. As the HP systems don't use MD5 anywhere. > > Is there a way you know of, without changing the HP systems, to get rid > of that error? (I can see calls from users on this when we go to the > new NIS master running RHEL vs. the old running HP/UX.) Create and cache a Kerberos ticket on the HP/UX machine for the machine you're "rsh"ing from. You can use "krb5" to do this GUI-style, or use "kadmin" for command-line operations. I hope you understand how Kerberos works (realms, principals, etc.) or this will be VERY confusing to you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Grabel's Law: 2 is not equal to 3--not even for large values of 2. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Feb 3 19:25:31 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 11:25:31 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D63EB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:06 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Issues with rsh and kerberos > > > > I would bet that is the case. As the HP systems don't use MD5 anywhere. > > > > Is there a way you know of, without changing the HP systems, to get rid > > of that error? (I can see calls from users on this when we go to the > > new NIS master running RHEL vs. the old running HP/UX.) > > Create and cache a Kerberos ticket on the HP/UX machine for the machine > you're "rsh"ing from. You can use "krb5" to do this GUI-style, or > use "kadmin" for command-line operations. I hope you understand how > Kerberos works (realms, principals, etc.) or this will be VERY confusing > to you. Ok... I just grabbed my bottle of aspirin. Is there someplace that would walk me through with just dealing this particular problem? Or do I need to know more. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 20:05:28 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:05:28 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D63EB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D63EB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <42028408.3010408@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:06 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: Issues with rsh and kerberos >> >>>I would bet that is the case. As the HP systems don't use MD5 > > anywhere. > >>>Is there a way you know of, without changing the HP systems, to get > > rid > >>>of that error? (I can see calls from users on this when we go to > > the > >>>new NIS master running RHEL vs. the old running HP/UX.) >> >>Create and cache a Kerberos ticket on the HP/UX machine for the > > machine > >>you're "rsh"ing from. You can use "krb5" to do this GUI-style, or >>use "kadmin" for command-line operations. I hope you understand how >>Kerberos works (realms, principals, etc.) or this will be VERY > > confusing > >>to you. > > > Ok... I just grabbed my bottle of aspirin. > > Is there someplace that would walk me through with just dealing this > particular problem? Or do I need to know more. There's several things that may or may not be significant for you. It depends on how kerberos was set up. The easiest way to get a ticket is to do "kinit -f myusername". If you don't get an error, that means that the kerberos server on your network gave you a ticket. Your "rsh" should then work without the error. You may need to do "rsh -F" to make sure your credentials get forwarded to the server. If the "kinit -f" fails, try just "kinit myusername" (the "-f" means that you want forwardable credentials which is only supported in Kerberos V5 and later). Then try the "rsh" again. If the "rsh" fails, try "rsh -F" (capital F) to forward your non-forwardable credentials. Note that before you end your session, you should "kdestroy" to destroy any credentials you may have (even though they will expire eventually). Most people that have to use Kerberos put a "kinit" command in their shell's startup script (".bashrc", ".profile", etc.) and the "kdestroy" in their logout script (".bash_logout", etc.). See "man kerberos" for more info. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - su -; find / -name someone -exec touch \{\} \; - - - The UNIX way of touching someone - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 21:17:46 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:17:46 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos In-Reply-To: <42028408.3010408@vitalstream.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D63EB@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <42028408.3010408@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <420294FA.7080200@vitalstream.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:06 AM >>> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>> Subject: Re: Issues with rsh and kerberos >>> >>>> I would bet that is the case. As the HP systems don't use MD5 >> >> >> anywhere. >> >>>> Is there a way you know of, without changing the HP systems, to get >> >> >> rid >> >>>> of that error? (I can see calls from users on this when we go to >> >> >> the >> >>>> new NIS master running RHEL vs. the old running HP/UX.) >>> >>> >>> Create and cache a Kerberos ticket on the HP/UX machine for the >> >> >> machine >> >>> you're "rsh"ing from. You can use "krb5" to do this GUI-style, or >>> use "kadmin" for command-line operations. I hope you understand how >>> Kerberos works (realms, principals, etc.) or this will be VERY >> >> >> confusing >> >>> to you. >> >> >> >> Ok... I just grabbed my bottle of aspirin. >> >> Is there someplace that would walk me through with just dealing this >> particular problem? Or do I need to know more. > > > There's several things that may or may not be significant for you. It > depends on how kerberos was set up. I should have mentioned that you may or may not need to specify a realm or service in addition to your username (aka "principal"). Your kerberos manager should be able to tell you. A complete Kerberos entity looks like principal/service at realm e.g. if I (as user Rick) want to perform something that requires root access (the service) on a different Kerberos realm than my default, I'd specify rick/root at otherrealm.com Confused yet? :-D > The easiest way to get a ticket is to do "kinit -f myusername". If you > don't get an error, that means that the kerberos server on your network > gave you a ticket. Your "rsh" should then work without the error. You > may need to do "rsh -F" to make sure your credentials get forwarded to > the server. > > If the "kinit -f" fails, try just "kinit myusername" (the "-f" means > that you want forwardable credentials which is only supported in > Kerberos V5 and later). Then try the "rsh" again. If the "rsh" fails, > try "rsh -F" (capital F) to forward your non-forwardable credentials. > > Note that before you end your session, you should "kdestroy" to destroy > any credentials you may have (even though they will expire eventually). > Most people that have to use Kerberos put a "kinit" command in their > shell's startup script (".bashrc", ".profile", etc.) and the "kdestroy" > in their logout script (".bash_logout", etc.). > > See "man kerberos" for more info. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - su -; find / -name someone -exec touch \{\} \; - > - - The UNIX way of touching someone - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do not taunt the sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 3 21:46:09 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:46:09 -0800 Subject: Better wireless security as well as more speed In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05020211394912443a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05020211394912443a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42029BA1.3060509@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > As I was working on this ogg file server project here at home I was > running 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' and, low and behold, just this morning > a new router turned on in my neighborhood. (Or it just became > visible...) I removed all power and Ethernet connections from my > router and continued scanning. The other cell was there (and still is) > with a different hardware address so I assume it's real. Anyway, this > prompted me to look at my setups again and try to go to the next level > of both speed and security. > > My setup: > > Router - Netgear 802.11b/g that also supports 108Mb/S > > PCs - 2 FC2 machines with DWL-510G cards running under ndiswrapper > > 1) As a 1st step I changed my ESSID on all stations to a fairly random > string of letters and numbers. Took the network down and back up. > Everyone is still connected and the new ESSID shows up under iwlist > wlan0 scanning. However I assume that this means anyone scanning in > the neighborhood can get my ESSID so it would seemingly not help alot. > I changed it because stupidly the ESSID before was my home address. > Not smart. Something that identifiable isn't good, but if you use a decent WEP key, the fact you're broadcasting your ESSID isn't fatal. It _does_ show wardrivers out there that there's a network operating, though. > 2) As a second step I attempted to look at what options I have for > security options in the router. What it offers is: > > Security: > - Disable > - WEP > - WPA-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access Pre-Shared Key) > > Disable seems a bad choice. I've been using WEP as it seems to align > better with most of the examples in the Linux wireless HOWTO's. Is it > the best? WEP offers the following in my router: > > Security Encryption (WEP) > Authentication Type: (Automatic, Open System and Shared Key) > Encryption Strength: (64, 128 and 152 bit) > > and then 4 keys. > > I had been using WEP, Open System and 128bit. I'm concerned that 'Open > System' means it broadcasts my ESSID which I'd like it not to do. Is > this what happens? If so does Shared Key or Automatic NOT broadcast > the ESSID? It depends on the router. I'm not familiar with the Netgear, but generally the ESSID broadcast is handled separately. The two authentication types are "open" and "shared key". Open means ANYONE can join the network if their ESSID matches yours or uses the special ESSID "ANY". In other words, you've turned off authentication. Bad, unless you run an internet cafe. "shared key" means that only stations that have your ESSID and match one of the four keys can join the network. This is the secure mode (such as it is). > The router also offers WPA-PSK. When I choose that it offers only an > 8-63 character passphrase. Would this be better? All that does is allow you to enter a passphrase. It generates a standard WEP key based on the passphrase. The same passphrase generates the same key. The only nice thing this really does is automatically generate the right sized key--you don't have to remember how many characters (or hex digits) it takes, so you can change from 64- to 152-bit keys without changing your passphrase. > 3) I'd also like to set the system up for 802.11g only operation if my > ndiswrapper stuff will work. How can I do this? As a first try I set > the router to g & b operation on channel 11. I then went to the > wireless PC and set up ifcfg-wlan0 to this: If a network has a mix of 802.11b and 802.11g nodes, the network will revert to 802.11b (the slowest speed). Sorry, that's just the way it works. If you want to be 802.11g, ALL nodes have to be 802.11g. > [root at dragonfly root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 > # DLink DWL-520 using ndiswrapper > IPV6INIT=no > BOOTPROTO=static > ONBOOT=yes > USERCTL=no > PEERDNS=no > GATEWAY=192.168.10.3 > TYPE=Wireless > DEVICE=wlan0 > HWADDR=(wnic HW address) > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > IPADDR=192.168.10.52 > ESSID=(Long random ESSID) > CHANNEL=5 > KEY="(26 HEX characters) Restricted" > MODE=Managed > RATE=54Mb/s > [root at dragonfly root]# > > After restarting the network I see this: > > wlan0 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"(long random ESSID)" Nickname:"dragonfly" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Access Point: (router HW addr.) > Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power:20 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 > RTS thr=2432 B Fragment thr=2432 B > Encryption key:(26 HEX characters) Security mode:restricted > Power Management:off > Link Quality:100/100 Signal level:-56 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > > So it appears that I'm only getting 11Mb/S. Can I improve on this? > > And currently the other router is apparently still out there: > > [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning > Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 > of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. > Some things may be broken... > > wlan0 Scan completed : > Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:4F:EB:16 > ESSID:"NETGEAR" > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > Mode:Managed > Frequency:2.462GHz > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-72 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm > Encryption key:off > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > Bit Rate:52Mb/s > Extra:bcn_int=100 > Extra:atim=0 > Cell 02 - Address: (My router's HW address) > ESSID:"(Long random ESSID)" > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > Mode:Managed > Frequency:2.462GHz > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-49 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm > Encryption key:on > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > Bit Rate:6Mb/s > Bit Rate:12Mb/s > Bit Rate:24Mb/s > Bit Rate:36Mb/s > Bit Rate:33Mb/s > Extra:bcn_int=100 > Extra:atim=0 > > [root at dragonfly root]# > > Thanks in advance for any and all ideas. Ok, in a nutshell: Broadcast your ESSID or not, your choice. It's best not to, but you can determine if that's critical or not. Do NOT use "Open System" or "Automatic" authentication. USE "Shared Key" ONLY! Make your keys as obscure as you can. Remember that while your router can use WPA-PSK, Linux can't. Use the biggest WEP key size you can. You max out at 152, but 256-bit is the biggest. Also remember that WEP is still fairly easy to crack. If you can, try to use your router's firewall tools to restrict access to the NICs you know about (most will have methods to match the hardware address). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Thu Feb 3 22:40:09 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:40:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: <42026DDE.4020100@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: I'm top posting because I have a break through - of sorts. by puting in the IP address then :3389 I am at least getting the command that this server isn't accepting any more connections. >From what I've read and been told only one person at a time can be connected or logged on so it looks like I'm getting in from HOME to Work. Now to get the machine all to myself (this right here is a great reason to NOT use this program - we need to share). Thanks everyone I'll mess more with the SLP and see if I can get that working. Brad On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > >>krdc is KDE's front end to rdesktop. > >> > >>Again, that's gotta be XP/Pro. XP/Home doesn't have it. > >> > >>Do you have iptables running? rdesktop uses TCP port 3389. > >> > >>I'm sure it's RDP (remote desktop protocol). > > > > > > OK so I'm using rdesktop to talk to XP/Pro (actually Home is > > suppose to have it but it doesn't by default install it, it's > > suppose to be on the disk someplace but Yes we are using Pro at > > work. > > I guessed as much. > > > OK, now we know what I'm doing (that's a major step) has anyone > > had the problems I'm having? I don't believe I'm got iptables > > running, I'm behind a different firewall at home and figured I > > didn't need the extra headache of keeping iptables going but I may > > have started it by mistake (how do I tell?). > > Do "iptables -L -n". If you get a list of rules, you're running it. > > > Again, I use VPN to get into my work computers then I use RealVNC > > to access some of the machines and as they convert machines to > > XP/Pro they want me to start using "Remote Desktop" as it comes > > with XP/Pro and they have enough problems keeping the machines > > working not to have to worry about me wanting to use Linux. > > > > When I start "Remote Desktop Connection" that comes with RedHat 9 > > I get an error message saying I must not have SLP as it can't > > browse the network. I do have samba working (at least it can > > see the windows machines in my house and we share printers). > > I did a bit of research and SLP is "service locator protocol". I've > never used it. AFAIK, it's not part of any Red Hat or Fedora install, > but it is available from openslp.org. > > Wait, are you trying to run rdesktop from home to see your stuff at the > office, or are you trying to run rdesktop on a machine at the office to > see stuff at the office? > > > Using RDC I can't get on any of the XP machines even knowing the > > machine name and IP. Just says it can't find it. > > If you're trying it from home, I can believe that. My guess is that > office firewall is blocking you or the VPN isn't aliasing you. Your > home machine can't browse the office network. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 23:51:50 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:51:50 -0800 Subject: smbmnt must be installed suid root... Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05020315516e754107@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am able to setup an NFS mount in fstab so that a user can mount it but I cannot do the same for an smbfs mount. So far I always get a message back saying: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) smbmnt failed: 1 I did some Googling and see this is a fairly common post, but it seems that the agreed upon solution is not. Some say that changing permissions on smbmnt is a bad thing to do as it raises security issues. What security issues? Do they apply to a home network desktop system to any great extent. Is there some other way to do this that will accomplish what I want? Here's the line from fstab: (Line break by hand) //GIGASTUDIO/16-Bit-loop /mnt/GSt-Gigs smbfs username=mark,password=removed,noauto,user,ro 0 0 What's a good way to accomplish without messing with system security? Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 4 00:53:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 16:53:47 -0800 Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4202C79B.3090702@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm top posting because I have a break through - of sorts. > > by puting in the IP address then :3389 I am at least getting the > command that this server isn't accepting any more connections. Yes, one user at a time is the limit for RDP. It's interesting that you must specify the port number. 3389 is the default for RDP. >>From what I've read and been told only one person at a time can > be connected or logged on so it looks like I'm getting in from > HOME to Work. Now to get the machine all to myself (this right > here is a great reason to NOT use this program - we need to > share). Yup, that's one of the reasons that RDP is clunky. > > Thanks everyone I'll mess more with the SLP and see if I can get > that working. I'm curios...were you running rdesktop from the command line or via the GUI? If it's the GUI, then yes, it wouldn't know to use 3389. RDP is on port 3389, VNC is on port 5900. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 4 01:08:23 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:08:23 -0800 Subject: smbmnt must be installed suid root... In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05020315516e754107@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05020315516e754107@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4202CB07.7030805@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I am able to setup an NFS mount in fstab so that a user can mount > it but I cannot do the same for an smbfs mount. So far I always get a > message back saying: > > smbmnt must be installed suid root > for direct user mounts (500,500) > smbmnt failed: 1 > > I did some Googling and see this is a fairly common post, but it seems > that the agreed upon solution is not. Some say that changing > permissions on smbmnt is a bad thing to do as it raises security > issues. What security issues? Any command that's set suid root can be dangerous, as anyone can execute the command AND the command, when run, has root permissions. That wouldn't necessarily be that dangerous as smbmnt is transient (it's invoked, does the mount, then goes away) so the window of vulnerability is relatively small. > Do they apply to a home network desktop > system to any great extent. Is there some other way to do this that > will accomplish what I want? Not really. > Here's the line from fstab: (Line break by hand) > > //GIGASTUDIO/16-Bit-loop /mnt/GSt-Gigs smbfs > username=mark,password=removed,noauto,user,ro 0 0 > > What's a good way to accomplish without messing with system security? There really isn't. Mounting non-removable media as non-root users really isn't supported for any filesystem type because of security issues and because there's no direct mapping of Unix security to Windows security models. If you must, here's the rules: If you set the "suid" bit, the program runs as the OWNER of the file. So, first make sure the program is owned by root. Then you can set the "suid" bit by (as root): # chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt When you "ls -l /usr/sbin/smbmnt", if you see an "s" for the user part, then it took. An "S" (capital S) means the suid root bit stuck, but the program didn't originally have the execute bit set: s = suid AND execute set S = suid and execute NOT set If you wish to remove the suid bit, use "chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmnt". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say... oh, somewhere in there. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 01:39:58 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:39:58 -0800 Subject: smbmnt must be installed suid root... In-Reply-To: <4202CB07.7030805@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05020315516e754107@mail.gmail.com> <4202CB07.7030805@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05020317392fb43f54@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:08:23 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > > I am able to setup an NFS mount in fstab so that a user can mount > > it but I cannot do the same for an smbfs mount. So far I always get a > > message back saying: > > > > smbmnt must be installed suid root > > for direct user mounts (500,500) > > smbmnt failed: 1 > > > > I did some Googling and see this is a fairly common post, but it seems > > that the agreed upon solution is not. Some say that changing > > permissions on smbmnt is a bad thing to do as it raises security > > issues. What security issues? > > Any command that's set suid root can be dangerous, as anyone can execute > the command AND the command, when run, has root permissions. That > wouldn't necessarily be that dangerous as smbmnt is transient (it's > invoked, does the mount, then goes away) so the window of vulnerability > is relatively small. > > > Do they apply to a home network desktop > > system to any great extent. Is there some other way to do this that > > will accomplish what I want? > > Not really. > > > Here's the line from fstab: (Line break by hand) > > > > //GIGASTUDIO/16-Bit-loop /mnt/GSt-Gigs smbfs > > username=mark,password=removed,noauto,user,ro 0 0 > > > > What's a good way to accomplish without messing with system security? > > There really isn't. Mounting non-removable media as non-root users > really isn't supported for any filesystem type because of security > issues and because there's no direct mapping of Unix security to Windows > security models. > > If you must, here's the rules: If you set the "suid" bit, the program > runs as the OWNER of the file. So, first make sure the program is owned > by root. Then you can set the "suid" bit by (as root): > > # chmod u+s /usr/bin/smbmnt > > When you "ls -l /usr/sbin/smbmnt", if you see an "s" for the user part, > then it took. An "S" (capital S) means the suid root bit stuck, but > the program didn't originally have the execute bit set: > > s = suid AND execute set > S = suid and execute NOT set > > If you wish to remove the suid bit, use "chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmnt". Thanks Rick. I guess the danger here is that some mistake could get made at the command line, mount a Windows share and then compromise that machine by accident. I think I want to be careful about that as I have a lot of audio data on the Windows boxes. The fstab idea was an attempt to limit what could be mounted. Really I guess it doesn't need to be made so automatic as fstab is capable of doing. To a great extent the reasons I wanted to put it there were: 1) It mimics the mounts I do between the ogg file server (which is Linux based) and my Linux desktop machine. If both are done in fstab then there's one less place for me to look when I need to change things. 2) I forget a lot of this stuff from week to week. I've not found any good way to remember command line commands other than recalling stuff from a history file which isn't deep enough to cover my bad memory. I write stuff down and the papers or books get misplaced/lost. fstab is more stable as long as the system is running and backups are current. Cheers, Mark From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Feb 4 04:31:28 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:31:28 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D647C@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:05 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Issues with rsh and kerberos > > There's several things that may or may not be significant for you. It > depends on how kerberos was set up. > > The easiest way to get a ticket is to do "kinit -f myusername". If you > don't get an error, that means that the kerberos server on your network > gave you a ticket. Your "rsh" should then work without the error. You > may need to do "rsh -F" to make sure your credentials get forwarded to > the server. > > If the "kinit -f" fails, try just "kinit myusername" (the "-f" means > that you want forwardable credentials which is only supported in > Kerberos V5 and later). Then try the "rsh" again. If the "rsh" fails, > try "rsh -F" (capital F) to forward your non-forwardable credentials. > > Note that before you end your session, you should "kdestroy" to destroy > any credentials you may have (even though they will expire eventually). > Most people that have to use Kerberos put a "kinit" command in their > shell's startup script (".bashrc", ".profile", etc.) and the "kdestroy" > in their logout script (".bash_logout", etc.). > > See "man kerberos" for more info. I just realized I committed a stupid. I'm not running Kerberos in this environment. Just NIS. And NIS is not Kerberos, correct? From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Fri Feb 4 04:48:12 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:48:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: <4202C79B.3090702@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > I'm curios...were you running rdesktop from the command line or via > the GUI? If it's the GUI, then yes, it wouldn't know to use 3389. > RDP is on port 3389, VNC is on port 5900. The GUI - "krdc" You would still think it would go to the default port but that would make too much sense. -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From murali.e at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 10:50:03 2005 From: murali.e at gmail.com (Murali Krishnan Elangovan) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:20:03 +0530 Subject: Update Linux Message-ID: <58372bc0502040250383222c8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am a novice in Linux. Have just installed Linux Version 3.0 WS in my desktop. I have a USB keyboard and I faced problems while installation as the Keyboard didnt respond. So i had to use my friend's keyboard (PS2) for installation. now even after installation, i am not able to use my USB keyboard. My modem is also not getting sensed. I checked the redhat site and learned that USB not being sensed is a bug and the patch is available for the same. But i am not able to download the updates directly. believe i will be able to download through REDHAT Network only. as my modem is also under problem i find myself helpless. can someone suggest me a way out. -- Regards, Murali Krishnan Elangovan From roland at cat.be Fri Feb 4 15:36:05 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:36:05 +0100 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <41F68484.3090208@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <002401c50acf$3d3a8300$ef01a8c0@pccat03> > roland brouwers wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick >>Stevens >>Sent: donderdag 20 januari 2005 18:59 >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: printing >> >>roland brouwers wrote: >> >> >>>Hello, >>> >>> >>> >>>I have a printing problem. >>> >>>The application I wrote uses the Unix printing system or jetdirect and >> >>a >> >> >>>generic interface, raw text. >>> >>>When I start a long printjob, something like 30 invoices, the spooljob >> >> >>>is never removed. In other words, when finished, the spooler launches >>>his job again and again and again. He doesn't do this with a job, not >>>longer than something like 10 pages. >>> >>>Could this be a problem of RedHat9? >> >> >>I've never heard of that specific problem, but RH9 did have some known >>printing issues. BTW, you didn't say if you were using CUPS or LPRng. >> >> >> >>>I heard that for the RH enterprise, there was a patch for this >> >>problem. >> >>Entirely possible, although RHEL is based on RH7.2. Have you checked >>the update base at Fedora Legacy for CUPS and/or LPRng updates >>(depending on which you're using)? >> >> >> >>>I have this problem with all my RH9 installations. >> >> >>That wouldn't surprise me. >> >>I would highly recommend you go to http://www.fedoralegacy.org and do >>a couple of things. First, install yum or apt-get from that site on >>your RH9 machines, then update your systems: >> >> # yum update cups* or # yum update lprng* >>-or- >> # apt-get -u update cups or # apt-get -u update lprng >> >>Remember that RH9 is dead (as of April of last year) and the only >>updates you can get will be from the Fedora Legacy group. You should >>also think about updating to Fedora Core 2 or 3 at some point. I > > don't > >>know how long Fedora Legacy will continue to support RH9 >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>RH9 installs by standard the CUPS printing system. >>But when I run the lp -d command it puts the spoolfiles in >>/var/spool/cups. >> >>What do I have to do, to disable the Cups printing system and start > > lpr > >>or lpd? >> >>>From what i read about lpr from the manual, it uses cups, so what is > > the > >>use? > > > There are two competing printing mechanisms under Linux...CUPS and > LPRng. LPRng is the more, uh, "classic" Unix printing system. CUPS > ("C Unified Printing System") is a greatly improved printing mechanism. > Both use the same commands (lpr, lprm, lpq, etc.), however the commands > have actually been renamed "lpr.cups" and "lpr.lprng", etc.) and > symbolic links point to the actual commands. The links are changed as > you select either CUPS or LPRng as your printing system. Which one are > you using? Do "ls -l /etc/alternatives/print" and it'll show you what > the symbolic link points at. Odds are it'll be "lpr.cups", meaning > you're using CUPS. > > So, make sure you update your CUPS software. If you installed yum or > apt-get as I recommended, just use: "yum -y update cups*" or > "apt-get -u update cups*" to update to the latest release from the > Fedora Legacy gang (remember, Red Hat doesn't support RH9 anymore). > > I downloaded LPRng-3.8.28-1.i386.rpm > > sh-2.05b# rpm -ivh LPRng-3.8.28-1.i386.rpm > > Preparing... ########################################### > [100%] > file /etc/printcap from install of LPRng-3.8.28-1 conflicts with > file from package setup-2.5.25-1 > > sh-2.05b# > > I did an update from fedora with : yum -y update LPRng* > > > Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) > Server: Red Hat Linux 9 -- Fedora US mirror > Server: Red Hat Linux 9 updates -- Fedora US mirror > Server: K12TLSP > Server: Macromedia Flash Player for Red Hat Linux 9 -- US mirror > Finding updated packages > Downloading needed headers > Cannot find any package matching LPRng available to be updated. > sh-2.05b# > > What am I missing here? If you don't have LPRng installed, you can't update it. "yum update" only updates things that are already installed. > Is every update coming from Fedora with yum, after the update active, or > do I have to restart something? All updates for Red Hat Linux 9 come from Fedora Legacy. You can get them by using yum or apt-get. > If I can get LPRng installed, how do I activate it? Just install it (you can use "yum install LPRng"), then use the Printing applet in System Tools to switch to it. There really isn't any good reason to switch to LPRng from CUPS. Your problem should possibly be squawked to the CUPS people. However, since you run an obsolete version of Linux, you may not get a lot of help. I really, REALLY suggest you go to Fedora Core 2 or 3 ASAP. I installed LPRng with Yum I checked /etc/printcap It was empty, so I filled with the parameters of the printers I typed the instruction: lpd And received the following Fatal error - Cannot bind to lpd port '515' Next day I checked /etc/printcap again and it was empty But the printer works and stops his job normally How can I remove cups and install lpd in the proper way. Till now I have not decided to install Fedora, because of a lack of time and the risk of reinstalling this server. Thanks for your help roland From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 4 18:02:48 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:02:48 -0800 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D647C@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D647C@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4203B8C8.8010700@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:05 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: Issues with rsh and kerberos >> >>There's several things that may or may not be significant for you. It >>depends on how kerberos was set up. >> >>The easiest way to get a ticket is to do "kinit -f myusername". If > > you > >>don't get an error, that means that the kerberos server on your > > network > >>gave you a ticket. Your "rsh" should then work without the error. > > You > >>may need to do "rsh -F" to make sure your credentials get forwarded to >>the server. >> >>If the "kinit -f" fails, try just "kinit myusername" (the "-f" means >>that you want forwardable credentials which is only supported in >>Kerberos V5 and later). Then try the "rsh" again. If the "rsh" > > fails, > >>try "rsh -F" (capital F) to forward your non-forwardable credentials. >> >>Note that before you end your session, you should "kdestroy" to > > destroy > >>any credentials you may have (even though they will expire > > eventually). > >>Most people that have to use Kerberos put a "kinit" command in their >>shell's startup script (".bashrc", ".profile", etc.) and the > > "kdestroy" > >>in their logout script (".bash_logout", etc.). >> >>See "man kerberos" for more info. > > > I just realized I committed a stupid. > > I'm not running Kerberos in this environment. Just NIS. And NIS is not > Kerberos, correct? It depends. NIS essentially supplements /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group for login authentication. It can also invoke the automounter and such. Kerberos is also an authentication mechanism, but it supplants the need for things such as "~/.rhosts" files and such by passing around secure credential tickets. In other words, if rsh gets a valid Kerberos ticket, it knows that the user has been authenticated previously and doesn't need to bother itself with that. Kerberos essentially allows you to authenticate once, then use that authentication to access all of the various services IN THE KERBEROS REALM without having to re-authenticate. Can you use both? Certainly! Should you? It depends on what you're trying to accomplish. It's very useful for single-point authentication on a server farm, for instance. The downside is that Kerberos doesn't provide encryption (many people mistakenly think it does). All conversations between the systems using stuff such as rsh, rlogin, etc. remain in plaintext, so the network still must be pretty secure. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "More hay, Trigger?" "No thanks, Roy, I'm stuffed!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 4 18:06:30 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:06:30 -0800 Subject: Remote Desktop Connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4203B9A6.1070504@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>I'm curios...were you running rdesktop from the command line or via >>the GUI? If it's the GUI, then yes, it wouldn't know to use 3389. >>RDP is on port 3389, VNC is on port 5900. > > > The GUI - "krdc" You would still think it would go to the > default port but that would make too much sense. krdc invokes either rdesktop OR vncviewer depending on what you're trying to access, and it sorts that out via SLP. If you were to use the command line "rdesktop xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx", then it'd use port 3389 by default since you're unambiguously invoking rdesktop. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - He who laughs last thinks slowest. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 4 18:30:30 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:30:30 -0800 Subject: Update Linux In-Reply-To: <58372bc0502040250383222c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <58372bc0502040250383222c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4203BF46.6020409@vitalstream.com> Murali Krishnan Elangovan wrote: > Hi, > > I am a novice in Linux. Have just installed Linux Version 3.0 WS in my > desktop. I have a USB keyboard and I faced problems while installation > as the Keyboard didnt respond. So i had to use my friend's keyboard > (PS2) for installation. > > now even after installation, i am not able to use my USB keyboard. My > modem is also not getting sensed. I checked the redhat site and > learned that USB not being sensed is a bug and the patch is available > for the same. But i am not able to download the updates directly. > believe i will be able to download through REDHAT Network only. as my > modem is also under problem i find myself helpless. > > can someone suggest me a way out. If you have a "winmodem", there are very few that are supported under Linux. Winmodems have had most of their brains "gutted" and depend on the operating system to do most of the work. Most of the makers do NOT support the open source initiative and therefore don't support Linux. There are drivers for some of them on the net, info can be had at http://www.linmodems.org, but that's not much help to you since you can't get on the net anyway. If it were me, I'd spend $50 and buy an EXTERNAL, stand-alone modem (the kind you plug into a serial port). Those are guaranteed to work with Linux, and don't put as big a burden on the processor to manage it. Barring that, I might be able to grab a driver for you and email it. You'd need to put it on a floppy or CD and install it. I need to know who makes your modem, what chipset it uses and its PCI bus ID. Log in as the root user, then enter these commands: uname -r lspci -vv lspci -vvn and post the results to the list here. Then open the box and find the make and model of modem you have. I'll see if there's a driver available. If there is, I'll email it to you and you can try to install it. I'd also spend $20 and get a standard PS/2 keyboard and mouse. NEVER rely on USB for that stuff, and it's always useful to have them, anyway. You could get a friend with decent internet access to get the patches for you and burn them to a CD. The trick there is to get the patches from the Red Hat Network WITHOUT using up2date. That's not easy. I think Red Hat sells a "patch CD" that contains all current patches up to a certain date (sort of like Windows' "Service Pack" concept). That may be your only hope to get the initial patches for your USB issues. Sorry we can't be of more help. You chose a "bad" hardware combo as far as Linux is concerned. Of course, you could write to your modem maker and demand they support Linux. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 4 18:37:49 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:37:49 -0800 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <002401c50acf$3d3a8300$ef01a8c0@pccat03> References: <002401c50acf$3d3a8300$ef01a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <4203C0FD.9060407@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: >>roland brouwers wrote: >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >>>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick >>>Stevens >>>Sent: donderdag 20 januari 2005 18:59 >>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>Subject: Re: printing >>> >>>roland brouwers wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I have a printing problem. >>>> >>>>The application I wrote uses the Unix printing system or jetdirect > > and > >>>a >>> >>> >>> >>>>generic interface, raw text. >>>> >>>>When I start a long printjob, something like 30 invoices, the > > spooljob > >>> >>>>is never removed. In other words, when finished, the spooler launches > > >>>>his job again and again and again. He doesn't do this with a job, not > > >>>>longer than something like 10 pages. >>>> >>>>Could this be a problem of RedHat9? >>> >>> >>>I've never heard of that specific problem, but RH9 did have some known >>>printing issues. BTW, you didn't say if you were using CUPS or LPRng. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I heard that for the RH enterprise, there was a patch for this >>> >>>problem. >>> >>>Entirely possible, although RHEL is based on RH7.2. Have you checked >>>the update base at Fedora Legacy for CUPS and/or LPRng updates >>>(depending on which you're using)? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I have this problem with all my RH9 installations. >>> >>> >>>That wouldn't surprise me. >>> >>>I would highly recommend you go to http://www.fedoralegacy.org and do >>>a couple of things. First, install yum or apt-get from that site on >>>your RH9 machines, then update your systems: >>> >>> # yum update cups* or # yum update lprng* >>>-or- >>> # apt-get -u update cups or # apt-get -u update lprng >>> >>>Remember that RH9 is dead (as of April of last year) and the only >>>updates you can get will be from the Fedora Legacy group. You should >>>also think about updating to Fedora Core 2 or 3 at some point. I >> >>don't >> >> >>>know how long Fedora Legacy will continue to support RH9 >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>RH9 installs by standard the CUPS printing system. >>>But when I run the lp -d command it puts the spoolfiles in >>>/var/spool/cups. >>> >>>What do I have to do, to disable the Cups printing system and start >> >>lpr >> >> >>>or lpd? >>> >>>>From what i read about lpr from the manual, it uses cups, so what is >> >>the >> >> >>>use? >> >> >>There are two competing printing mechanisms under Linux...CUPS and >>LPRng. LPRng is the more, uh, "classic" Unix printing system. CUPS >>("C Unified Printing System") is a greatly improved printing > > mechanism. > >>Both use the same commands (lpr, lprm, lpq, etc.), however the > > commands > >>have actually been renamed "lpr.cups" and "lpr.lprng", etc.) and >>symbolic links point to the actual commands. The links are changed as >>you select either CUPS or LPRng as your printing system. Which one > > are > >>you using? Do "ls -l /etc/alternatives/print" and it'll show you what >>the symbolic link points at. Odds are it'll be "lpr.cups", meaning >>you're using CUPS. >> >>So, make sure you update your CUPS software. If you installed yum or >>apt-get as I recommended, just use: "yum -y update cups*" or >>"apt-get -u update cups*" to update to the latest release from the >>Fedora Legacy gang (remember, Red Hat doesn't support RH9 anymore). >> >>I downloaded LPRng-3.8.28-1.i386.rpm >> >>sh-2.05b# rpm -ivh LPRng-3.8.28-1.i386.rpm >> >>Preparing... > > ########################################### > >>[100%] >> file /etc/printcap from install of LPRng-3.8.28-1 conflicts > > with > >>file from package setup-2.5.25-1 >> >>sh-2.05b# >> >>I did an update from fedora with : yum -y update LPRng* >> >> >>Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) >>Server: Red Hat Linux 9 -- Fedora US mirror >>Server: Red Hat Linux 9 updates -- Fedora US mirror >>Server: K12TLSP >>Server: Macromedia Flash Player for Red Hat Linux 9 -- US mirror >>Finding updated packages >>Downloading needed headers >>Cannot find any package matching LPRng available to be updated. >>sh-2.05b# >> >>What am I missing here? > > > If you don't have LPRng installed, you can't update it. "yum update" > only updates things that are already installed. > > >>Is every update coming from Fedora with yum, after the update active, > > or > >>do I have to restart something? > > > All updates for Red Hat Linux 9 come from Fedora Legacy. You can get > them by using yum or apt-get. > > >>If I can get LPRng installed, how do I activate it? > > > Just install it (you can use "yum install LPRng"), then use the Printing > applet in System Tools to switch to it. > > There really isn't any good reason to switch to LPRng from CUPS. Your > problem should possibly be squawked to the CUPS people. However, since > you run an obsolete version of Linux, you may not get a lot of help. I > really, REALLY suggest you go to Fedora Core 2 or 3 ASAP. > > I installed LPRng with Yum > I checked /etc/printcap > It was empty, so I filled with the parameters of the printers > I typed the instruction: lpd > And received the following > Fatal error - Cannot bind to lpd port '515' Probably because cups was still running. > Next day I checked /etc/printcap again and it was empty > But the printer works and stops his job normally > How can I remove cups and install lpd in the proper way. If it's working properly now, why worry? > Till now I have not decided to install Fedora, because of a lack of time > and the risk of reinstalling this server. Both valid reasons, but you really, really need to consider it. I don't know how much longer RH9 will be supported by Fedora Legacy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never try to outstubborn a cat. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnrichardson75 at supanet.com Fri Feb 4 19:21:25 2005 From: johnrichardson75 at supanet.com (johnrichardson75 at supanet.com) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:21:25 +0000 Subject: Update Linux Message-ID: <1107544885.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From johnrichardson75 at supanet.com Fri Feb 4 20:53:53 2005 From: johnrichardson75 at supanet.com (johnrichardson75 at supanet.com) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:53:53 +0000 Subject: printing Message-ID: <1107550433.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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If I wait too long, I can't connect. > > On one of the machines, I get a dialogue like the following: > > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & > [1] 6402 > bind: Address already in use > [1]+ Exit 1 /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug > > > In this case I can't telnet to the machine. Any ideas on fixing either of these problems? > > - Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Feb 5 03:08:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:08:05 -0800 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <1107562387.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> References: <1107562387.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> Message-ID: <42043895.2000502@vitalstream.com> johnrichardson75 at supanet.com wrote: > I repeat u hav got the wrong address. > > No more emails please Then unsubscribe from the list. WE'RE not sending you stuff, you subscribed to the list using your email address. If you want to stop receiving these messages, UNSUBSCRIBE! In fact, I'm a sysop, I'll unsubscribe you, Jeeze! "I'm right! It's all your doing!" Twit! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy Sat Feb 5 04:08:12 2005 From: gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy (gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 1:08:12 -0300 Subject: printing Message-ID: <36F03A31518@ecp.imm.gub.uy> Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr? responderles. Por consultas de: - Tesorer?a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy - Contabilidad dirijase a: Ver?nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Feb 5 03:14:07 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:14:07 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A1D8497@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A1D8497@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <420439FF.9030809@vitalstream.com> Bill Brunt wrote: > Hi - > > I've never been able to telnet to a Linux machine the way I want. > I usually type in the following: > > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & > > which then for a brief period of time will let me establish a > telnet session as a non root user. If I wait too long, I can't > connect. > > On one of the machines, I get a dialogue like the following: > > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & > [1] 6402 > bind: Address already in use > [1]+ Exit 1 /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug > > > In this case I can't telnet to the machine. Any ideas on fixing > either of these problems? Telnet is not intended to be run as a user process. It is supposed to be launched from xinetd.d when someone makes a connection to TCP port 23. To do it right, as the root user on the command line, run # redhat-config-services (Red Hat Linux or Fedora Core 1) # system-config-services (Fedora Core 2 or 3) Via the GUI, Hat Icon->System Settings->Server Settings->Services In either case, scroll down the list until you see "telnet". Click in the box so it has a checkmark and click "Save". Next, scroll down until you see "xinetd", select it and click "Restart". You should now be able to telnet to the box. I HIGHLY recommend you don't use telnet. Use ssh instead. telnet is insecure (everything including passwords is in cleartext). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Feb 5 03:18:55 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:18:55 -0800 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <42043895.2000502@vitalstream.com> References: <1107562387.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> <42043895.2000502@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42043B1F.5040808@vitalstream.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > johnrichardson75 at supanet.com wrote: > >> I repeat u hav got the wrong address. >> >> No more emails please > > > Then unsubscribe from the list. WE'RE not sending you stuff, you > subscribed to the list using your email address. If you want to stop > receiving these messages, UNSUBSCRIBE! In fact, I'm a sysop, I'll > unsubscribe you, > > Jeeze! "I'm right! It's all your doing!" > > Twit! Ok, I booted him off the list. What an idjit! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If it's stupid and it works...it ain't stupid! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Feb 5 03:20:30 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:20:30 -0800 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <36F03A31518@ecp.imm.gub.uy> References: <36F03A31518@ecp.imm.gub.uy> Message-ID: <42043B7E.3040609@vitalstream.com> gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy wrote: > Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr? responderles. > Por consultas de: > - Tesorer?a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy > - Contabilidad dirijase a: > Ver?nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy > Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy > Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy I should boot this twit off the list as well. Votes, anyone? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If it's stupid and it works...it ain't stupid! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gnichols at tpg.com.au Sat Feb 5 04:05:02 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:05:02 +1100 Subject: Media test failure on CDs burnt from ISO file at 99% Message-ID: <420445EE.9030300@tpg.com.au> Hello Folks, I know this has been discussed innumerable times here but I have a somewhat different problem. I finally decided to bite the bullet and install (upgrade) from FC2 to FC3. I had burnt the CDs some time ago using Nero Burning Rom SE under Win XP SP2. I checked them at the time by making sure there was a file system on the CDs. I put CD1 in my drive and booted to the FC3 boot screen, hit 'Enter' and Linux and the USB and firewire drivers loaded etc. I then proceeded to test the CDs. All 4 of them tested to 99% then the drive slowed down, Linux sat there for a while then returned a 'Fail'. All 4 of the CDs failed at 99%. I tried burning a couple of other Disk 1 ISOs to CD including ticking the box that said something like 'Finish the CD, no more writing' or similar and burning from the DVD the ISOs came on (Australian Personal Computer magazine DVD) as well as from the ISO copied from the DVD to Hard Disk. No joy! Same failure when testing the CD. Has anyone else come across a similar problem, and if so, what is the remedy? Very frustrating! I am not prepared to do an upgrade until I can get the media test to complete successfully, for obvious reasons. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C for yourself. From stuart at sjsears.com Sat Feb 5 10:44:51 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (stuart) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:44:51 +0000 Subject: Media test failure on CDs burnt from ISO file at 99% In-Reply-To: <420445EE.9030300@tpg.com.au> References: <420445EE.9030300@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <200502051044.55234.stuart@sjsears.com> On Saturday 05 February 2005 04:05, Graeme Nichols wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I know this has been discussed innumerable times here but I have a > somewhat different problem. > > I finally decided to bite the bullet and install (upgrade) from FC2 to > FC3. I had burnt the CDs some time ago using Nero Burning Rom SE under > Win XP SP2. I checked them at the time by making sure there was a file > system on the CDs. > > I put CD1 in my drive and booted to the FC3 boot screen, hit 'Enter' and > Linux and the USB and firewire drivers loaded etc. > > I then proceeded to test the CDs. All 4 of them tested to 99% then the > drive slowed down, Linux sat there for a while then returned a 'Fail'. > All 4 of the CDs failed at 99%. > > I tried burning a couple of other Disk 1 ISOs to CD including ticking > the box that said something like 'Finish the CD, no more writing' or > similar and burning from the DVD the ISOs came on (Australian Personal > Computer magazine DVD) as well as from the ISO copied from the DVD to > Hard Disk. No joy! Same failure when testing the CD. > > Has anyone else come across a similar problem, and if so, what is the > remedy? > > Very frustrating! I am not prepared to do an upgrade until I can get the > media test to complete successfully, for obvious reasons. This is a known issue with FC3 cds: try booting from CD1 and typing linux mediacheck nocddma at the boot: prompt good references for other issues: http://www.fedorafaq.org/ http://www.fedoranews.org/ HTH Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX A fool must now and then be right by chance. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From admin at tootai.net Sat Feb 5 11:00:43 2005 From: admin at tootai.net (administrator tootai) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 12:00:43 +0100 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <42043B7E.3040609@vitalstream.com> References: <36F03A31518@ecp.imm.gub.uy> <42043B7E.3040609@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4204A75B.9030809@tootai.net> Rick Stevens a ?crit : > gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy wrote: > >> Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr? responderles. >> Por consultas de: >> - Tesorer?a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy >> - Contabilidad dirijase a: >> Ver?nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy >> Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy >> Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy > > > I should boot this twit off the list as well. Votes, anyone? one vote. I'm fed up of all those guys who didn't care on the consequence of their action. -- Daniel From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Sat Feb 5 13:43:18 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:43:18 +0000 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <4204A75B.9030809@tootai.net> References: <36F03A31518@ecp.imm.gub.uy> <42043B7E.3040609@vitalstream.com> <4204A75B.9030809@tootai.net> Message-ID: <1107610997.29973.1.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 11:00, administrator tootai wrote: > Rick Stevens a ??crit : > > > gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy wrote: > > > >> Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr?? responderles. > >> Por consultas de: > >> - Tesorer??a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy > >> - Contabilidad dirijase a: > >> Ver??nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy > >> Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy > >> Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy > > > > > > I should boot this twit off the list as well. Votes, anyone? > > one vote. I'm fed up of all those guys who didn't care on the > consequence of their action. And another. You want to see the number of autoresponders/spam email on php-install, I've unsubscribed. I would not want this list to get so bad that a majority of its subscribers go away. Regards Chris From inode0 at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 14:08:36 2005 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 08:08:36 -0600 Subject: Issues with rsh and kerberos In-Reply-To: <4203B8C8.8010700@vitalstream.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB055D647C@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <4203B8C8.8010700@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:02:48 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Can you use both? Certainly! Should you? It depends on what you're > trying to accomplish. It's very useful for single-point authentication > on a server farm, for instance. The downside is that Kerberos doesn't > provide encryption (many people mistakenly think it does). All > conversations between the systems using stuff such as rsh, rlogin, etc. > remain in plaintext, so the network still must be pretty secure. Kerberos can provide encryption for these services. Typically kerberos clients like rsh, rlogin, and telnet have a -x switch to turn on encryption of the data stream. The service you are connecting to needs to support this as well for it to work though. John From diogenes at xenodochy.org Sat Feb 5 14:17:11 2005 From: diogenes at xenodochy.org (Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr.) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:17:11 -0500 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <1107610997.29973.1.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> References: <36F03A31518@ecp.imm.gub.uy> <42043B7E.3040609@vitalstream.com> <4204A75B.9030809@tootai.net> <1107610997.29973.1.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> Message-ID: On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:43:18 +0000, Chris Hewitt wrote: > On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 11:00, administrator tootai wrote: >> Rick Stevens a ??crit : >> >> > gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy wrote: >> > >> >> Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr?? >> responderles. >> >> Por consultas de: >> >> - Tesorer??a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy >> >> - Contabilidad dirijase a: >> >> Ver??nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy >> >> Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy >> >> Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy >> > >> > >> > I should boot this twit off the list as well. Votes, anyone? >> >> one vote. I'm fed up of all those guys who didn't care on the >> consequence of their action. > > And another. You want to see the number of autoresponders/spam email on > php-install, I've unsubscribed. I would not want this list to get so bad > that a majority of its subscribers go away. > > Regards > > Chris > Boot 'em off. From jkinz at kinz.org Sat Feb 5 14:32:38 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:32:38 -0500 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <42043B1F.5040808@vitalstream.com>; from rstevens@vitalstream.com on Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 07:18:55PM -0800 References: <1107562387.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> <42043895.2000502@vitalstream.com> <42043B1F.5040808@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050205093238.B16000@redline.comcast.net> On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 07:18:55PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > > johnrichardson75 at supanet.com wrote: > > > >> I repeat u hav got the wrong address. > >> > >> No more emails please > > .................... > > Ok, I booted him off the list. What an idjit! Dear Gentlemen and, if any, Ladies of the list: I implore thee to take a more charitable path with this pathetic wretch. Obviously johnrichardson cannot handle the power of the technology he has been given. His is riding the tiger and cannot let go. We MUST assist him in all possible ways.... ;-) I suggest that one way we can help this poor man is by helping him get off the spam lists. For the next two weeks if everyone on the list would enter his email name into the "remove me" web pages of all the spam they recieve we would obviously greatly reduce the amount of spam he is getting. Clearly he needs all the help he can get with things like this. (ah.. never mind, just an entertaining thought.... ) -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sat Feb 5 15:11:05 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:11:05 -0600 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <20050205093238.B16000@redline.comcast.net> References: <1107562387.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> <42043895.2000502@vitalstream.com> <42043B1F.5040808@vitalstream.com> <20050205093238.B16000@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050205151105.GA6185@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 09:32:38AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 07:18:55PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > johnrichardson75 at supanet.com wrote: > > > > > >> I repeat u hav got the wrong address. > > >> > > >> No more emails please > > > > .................... > > > > Ok, I booted him off the list. What an idjit! > > Dear Gentlemen and, if any, Ladies of the list: > > I implore thee to take a more charitable path with this pathetic wretch. > > Obviously johnrichardson cannot handle the power of the technology he > has been given. His is riding the tiger and cannot let go. > > We MUST assist him in all possible ways.... ;-) > > I suggest that one way we can help this poor man is by helping him get > off the spam lists. > > For the next two weeks if everyone on the list would enter his email > name into the "remove me" web pages of all the spam they recieve > we would obviously greatly reduce the amount of spam he is getting. > > Clearly he needs all the help he can get with things like this. > > (ah.. never mind, just an entertaining thought.... ) You are truly diabolical. I like that. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? From bill.brunt at quest.com Sat Feb 5 17:20:07 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:20:07 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A1D84C8@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Rick - I'm going to get going with ssh, I'm on a closed network with test boxes. I still want to fix this telnet issue though. I've got four machines called splex1, splex2, splex3 and splex4. I tried the Program->System->Service Configuration and restarted xinetd. On both splex1 and splex2. I get the message Connecting To 192.168.1.231...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Connect failed Microsoft Telnet> Now, I've always been able to: /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & for splex2, splex3 and splex4 to get in but no matter what I do on splex1, only console access. I'd like to know how to trouble shoot more. Any ideas? - Bill -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:14 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: problem with telnet Bill Brunt wrote: > Hi - > > I've never been able to telnet to a Linux machine the way I want. > I usually type in the following: > > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & > > which then for a brief period of time will let me establish a > telnet session as a non root user. If I wait too long, I can't > connect. > > On one of the machines, I get a dialogue like the following: > > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & > [1] 6402 > bind: Address already in use > [1]+ Exit 1 /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug > > > In this case I can't telnet to the machine. Any ideas on fixing > either of these problems? Telnet is not intended to be run as a user process. It is supposed to be launched from xinetd.d when someone makes a connection to TCP port 23. To do it right, as the root user on the command line, run # redhat-config-services (Red Hat Linux or Fedora Core 1) # system-config-services (Fedora Core 2 or 3) Via the GUI, Hat Icon->System Settings->Server Settings->Services In either case, scroll down the list until you see "telnet". Click in the box so it has a checkmark and click "Save". Next, scroll down until you see "xinetd", select it and click "Restart". You should now be able to telnet to the box. I HIGHLY recommend you don't use telnet. Use ssh instead. telnet is insecure (everything including passwords is in cleartext). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From bill.brunt at quest.com Sat Feb 5 17:20:08 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:20:08 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A1D84CA@irvmbxw01.quest.com> I also did this redhat-config-services and nothing happened...something must have because it didn't come back with command not found -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:14 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: problem with telnet Bill Brunt wrote: > Hi - > > I've never been able to telnet to a Linux machine the way I want. > I usually type in the following: > > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & > > which then for a brief period of time will let me establish a > telnet session as a non root user. If I wait too long, I can't > connect. > > On one of the machines, I get a dialogue like the following: > > /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug & > [1] 6402 > bind: Address already in use > [1]+ Exit 1 /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug > > > In this case I can't telnet to the machine. Any ideas on fixing > either of these problems? Telnet is not intended to be run as a user process. It is supposed to be launched from xinetd.d when someone makes a connection to TCP port 23. To do it right, as the root user on the command line, run # redhat-config-services (Red Hat Linux or Fedora Core 1) # system-config-services (Fedora Core 2 or 3) Via the GUI, Hat Icon->System Settings->Server Settings->Services In either case, scroll down the list until you see "telnet". Click in the box so it has a checkmark and click "Save". Next, scroll down until you see "xinetd", select it and click "Restart". You should now be able to telnet to the box. I HIGHLY recommend you don't use telnet. Use ssh instead. telnet is insecure (everything including passwords is in cleartext). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From stuart at sjsears.com Sat Feb 5 20:05:32 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (stuart) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:05:32 +0000 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A1D84CA@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A1D84CA@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <200502052005.37055.stuart@sjsears.com> On Saturday 05 February 2005 17:20, Bill Brunt wrote: > I also did this redhat-config-services and nothing happened...something > must have because it didn't come back with command not found Hi Bill. Please do us all a favour and bottom-post... :-) anyway, on one of the linux boxes that you're not managing to contact, run (as root) chkconfig --list | grep telnet chkconfig --list xinetd netstat -tlpn | grep 23 and post the results, please it sounds like the telnet daemon is not being started... there are several factors which could cause this, so let's look at them all. Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP, :-) The only problem with being a man of leisure is that you can never stop and take a rest. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bill.brunt at quest.com Sat Feb 5 21:14:31 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:14:31 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF3E@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Sorry, I'm new to this. What is bottom post? -----Original Message----- From: stuart To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux CC: Bill Brunt Sent: Sat Feb 05 12:05:32 2005 Subject: Re: problem with telnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 21:21:33 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:21:33 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF3E@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF3E@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05020513215b6023c0@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:14:31 -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > > > Sorry, I'm new to this. What is bottom post? > Do this: > Their text your text Do not do this: your text > Their text FYI - some people (and distributions) disable telnet by default. It's probably better to use ssh rather than telnet anyway. Cheers, Mark From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sat Feb 5 21:25:15 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:25:15 -0600 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF3E@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF3E@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <20050205212515.GA17990@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 01:14:31PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > Sorry, I'm new to this. What is bottom post? To put your reply below what you're responding to. As I just did. Answer: Because it makes it easier to follow the flow of exchanges. Question: Why should I bottom-post rather than top-post? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? From jdyke at azimapower.com Sat Feb 5 22:08:14 2005 From: jdyke at azimapower.com (Jeff) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:08:14 -0500 Subject: iptables and NAT Message-ID: <420543CE.6090201@azimapower.com> I'm trying to set up a NAT using iptables on an aliased ip address to forward all mysql requests coming to 192.168.2.81:3306 192.168.2.81:3307. The request will be coming from a windows host(192.168.2.10), which is the reason for jumping through this hoop of course, to a FC3 host running two versions of mysql, one on 192.168.2.80:3306 and one on 192.168.2.81:3307. Which i'd like[need] to have both up and available at all times. The ips above(80&81) are aliases to eth0 named eth0:1 and eth0:2. So far i've echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to enable forwarding and restarted iptables, and saw Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: nat filter [OK] - when i restarted. From some web searching and man iptables i deceided to try the following: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 192.168.2.81 --source-port 3306 -d 192.168.2.81 --destination-port 3307 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.2.81 Of course i've done something wrong, as i don't see this entry using iptables -L Do i need to account for the outbound traffic from this request, or does it simply go back the way it came? i'm new here :) Thanks for any input you may have Jeff From jdyke at azimapower.com Sat Feb 5 22:46:56 2005 From: jdyke at azimapower.com (Jeff) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 17:46:56 -0500 Subject: iptables and NAT In-Reply-To: <420543CE.6090201@azimapower.com> References: <420543CE.6090201@azimapower.com> Message-ID: <42054CE0.6090102@azimapower.com> Jeff wrote: > So far i've > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > to enable forwarding and restarted iptables, and saw > Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: nat filter [OK] - when i restarted. > > From some web searching and man iptables i deceided to try the following: > > iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -s 192.168.2.81 --source-port > 3306 -d 192.168.2.81 --destination-port 3307 -j DNAT --to-destination > 192.168.2.81 > > Of course i've done something wrong, as i don't see this entry using > iptables -L > Sorry to respond to my own post, but the rule is added. i can see Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination DNAT tcp -- 192.168.2.81 192.168.2.81 tcp spt:3306 dpt:3307 to:192.168.2.81 when i run iptables -L -n -t nat but can not connect to the mysql server by specifying --port 3306. back to google....maybe i'll even go buy the orielly book. thanks jd From bill.brunt at quest.com Sun Feb 6 01:31:19 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:31:19 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC07AB4C94@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Stuart - >> on one of the linux boxes that you're not managing to contact, >> run (as root) >> chkconfig --list | grep telnet telnet: on >> chkconfig --list xinetd xinetd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off >> netstat -tlpn | grep 23 xinetd based services: tcp 0 0 192.168.1.231:2100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1856/sp_cop tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:23 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 8546/xinetd Also, I ran the /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug and it gives this message as opposed to other machines which give nothing but a pid. bind: Address already in use - Bill From bill.brunt at quest.com Sun Feb 6 01:33:12 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:33:12 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF41@irvmbxw01.quest.com> >> FYI - some people (and distributions) disable telnet by default. It's >> probably better to use ssh rather than telnet anyway. Alright so I'm going to reveal my true ignorance, how does one run ssh from the server and client side to get a terminal session? - Bill From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Feb 6 02:07:57 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:07:57 -0600 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC07AB4C94@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC07AB4C94@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <20050206020757.GA26360@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:31:19PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > Stuart - > > >> on one of the linux boxes that you're not managing to contact, > >> run (as root) > >> chkconfig --list | grep telnet > > telnet: on > > >> chkconfig --list xinetd > > xinetd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off > > >> netstat -tlpn | grep 23 > > xinetd based services: > tcp 0 0 192.168.1.231:2100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1856/sp_cop > tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:23 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 8546/xinetd > > Also, I ran the /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug and it gives this message as opposed to other machines which give nothing but a pid. > > bind: Address already in use > > - Bill I may have missed something earlier, but have you opened the firewall to telnet? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? From bill.brunt at quest.com Sun Feb 6 02:12:40 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:12:40 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF45@irvmbxw01.quest.com> > I may have missed something earlier, but have you opened the firewall > to telnet? Sorry for being such a moron, how do I test this? I think I did. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:08 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: problem with telnet On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:31:19PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > Stuart - > > >> on one of the linux boxes that you're not managing to contact, > >> run (as root) > >> chkconfig --list | grep telnet > > telnet: on > > >> chkconfig --list xinetd > > xinetd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off > > >> netstat -tlpn | grep 23 > > xinetd based services: > tcp 0 0 192.168.1.231:2100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1856/sp_cop > tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:23 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 8546/xinetd > > Also, I ran the /usr/sbin/in.telnetd -debug and it gives this message as opposed to other machines which give nothing but a pid. > > bind: Address already in use > > - Bill I may have missed something earlier, but have you opened the firewall to telnet? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Feb 6 02:15:10 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:15:10 -0600 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF41@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF41@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <20050206021510.GB26360@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:33:12PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > >> FYI - some people (and distributions) disable telnet by default. It's > >> probably better to use ssh rather than telnet anyway. > > Alright so I'm going to reveal my true ignorance, how does one run ssh > from the server and client side to get a terminal session? > > - Bill On the server, run chkconfig --list sshd If they all say off, then chkconfig sshd on That will make it come up at the next boot. To see if it's on right now, run service sshd status If it's on it will say something like sshd (pid 3271 1499) is running... If it's not on, then run service sshd start On a linux box client, from an xterm, run ssh On a Windoze box, you'll need to download and install PuTTY or SecureCRT for a good SSH client. Google for them. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Feb 6 02:27:25 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:27:25 -0600 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF45@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF45@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <20050206022725.GC26360@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 06:12:40PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > > I may have missed something earlier, but have you opened the firewall > > to telnet? > > Sorry for being such a moron, how do I test this? I think I did. As root, run service iptables status If iptables is not installed, you'll get something like "unrecognized service". Then tell us (again, if necessary :-) which RH or FC you're running. If it gives you a very long list of rules, it's on. You will need to configure it to open port 23. I gather from the IP addresses you've posted that you're on a private network behind a good firewall. In that case you can turn off the firewall on that server, if it's not the aforementioned good firewall. To turn it off service iptables stop To keep it from coming up at the next boot, chkconfig iptables off To open a particular port, run (on FC1 and RH) redhat-config-securitylevel On FC2 and 3, run firewall-config Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? From bill.brunt at quest.com Sun Feb 6 02:47:59 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:47:59 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF48@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Worked like a charm. Didn't bottom post in this case. What's the correct protocol? -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:15 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: problem with telnet On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:33:12PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > >> FYI - some people (and distributions) disable telnet by default. It's > >> probably better to use ssh rather than telnet anyway. > > Alright so I'm going to reveal my true ignorance, how does one run ssh > from the server and client side to get a terminal session? > > - Bill On the server, run chkconfig --list sshd If they all say off, then chkconfig sshd on That will make it come up at the next boot. To see if it's on right now, run service sshd status If it's on it will say something like sshd (pid 3271 1499) is running... If it's not on, then run service sshd start On a linux box client, from an xterm, run ssh On a Windoze box, you'll need to download and install PuTTY or SecureCRT for a good SSH client. Google for them. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Feb 6 03:28:47 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:28:47 -0600 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF48@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF48@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <20050206032846.GA28840@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 06:47:59PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > Worked like a charm. Didn't bottom post in this case. What's the correct protocol? Prepare to be flogged at dawn on Monday morning with a Cat 5 cable. Take the day off tomorrow to prepare for the ordeal. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure > Jr > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:15 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: problem with telnet > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:33:12PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > > >> FYI - some people (and distributions) disable telnet by default. It's > > >> probably better to use ssh rather than telnet anyway. > > > > Alright so I'm going to reveal my true ignorance, how does one run ssh > > from the server and client side to get a terminal session? > > > > - Bill > > On the server, run > > chkconfig --list sshd > > If they all say off, then > > chkconfig sshd on > > That will make it come up at the next boot. To see if it's on right > now, run > > service sshd status > > If it's on it will say something like > > sshd (pid 3271 1499) is running... > > If it's not on, then run > > service sshd start > > On a linux box client, from an xterm, run > > ssh > > On a Windoze box, you'll need to download and install PuTTY or > SecureCRT for a good SSH client. Google for them. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? From gnichols at tpg.com.au Sun Feb 6 03:32:55 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 14:32:55 +1100 Subject: Media test failure on CDs burnt from ISO file at 99% In-Reply-To: <200502051044.55234.stuart@sjsears.com> References: <420445EE.9030300@tpg.com.au> <200502051044.55234.stuart@sjsears.com> Message-ID: <42058FE7.3040602@tpg.com.au> stuart wrote: >On Saturday 05 February 2005 04:05, Graeme Nichols wrote: > > >>Hello Folks, >> >>I know this has been discussed innumerable times here but I have a >>somewhat different problem. >> >>I finally decided to bite the bullet and install (upgrade) from FC2 to >>FC3. I had burnt the CDs some time ago using Nero Burning Rom SE under >>Win XP SP2. I checked them at the time by making sure there was a file >>system on the CDs. >> >>I put CD1 in my drive and booted to the FC3 boot screen, hit 'Enter' and >>Linux and the USB and firewire drivers loaded etc. >> >>I then proceeded to test the CDs. All 4 of them tested to 99% then the >>drive slowed down, Linux sat there for a while then returned a 'Fail'. >>All 4 of the CDs failed at 99%. >> >>I tried burning a couple of other Disk 1 ISOs to CD including ticking >>the box that said something like 'Finish the CD, no more writing' or >>similar and burning from the DVD the ISOs came on (Australian Personal >>Computer magazine DVD) as well as from the ISO copied from the DVD to >>Hard Disk. No joy! Same failure when testing the CD. >> >>Has anyone else come across a similar problem, and if so, what is the >>remedy? >> >>Very frustrating! I am not prepared to do an upgrade until I can get the >>media test to complete successfully, for obvious reasons. >> >> >This is a known issue with FC3 cds: >try booting from CD1 and typing >linux mediacheck nocddma >at the boot: prompt >good references for other issues: >http://www.fedorafaq.org/ >http://www.fedoranews.org/ > >HTH > >Stuart > Hello Stuart, the boot argument 'linux mediacheck nocddma' does NOT work on my system. I get exactly the same problem. My system is P4 3Ghz, 512Mb RAM, two optical drives (1 DVD writer, 1 DVD reader) , Radeon 9800 XXL video card, 200Ghz hda (Win XP SP2), 40Ghz hdb (Linux FC2) and all the usual hardware. Booting from either optical drive results in the same problem. I checked out the links you gave and I can see nothing else on this problem. Do you have any other tips to getting past this problem? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A nasty looking dwarf throws a knife at you. From gnichols at tpg.com.au Sun Feb 6 04:50:45 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 15:50:45 +1100 Subject: FC3 media check failure workaround Message-ID: <4205A225.9010209@tpg.com.au> Hello Folks, the fix for the FC3 media check failure on the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ Web site (boot: linux media check nocddma) does not work on my system (P4 3G, hda 200G (Win XP SP2), hdb 40G(FC2), Radeon 9800XXL video) but if you still have your FC2 CDs then boot FC2 CD1 and when it asks if you want to check the media right arrow to the 'Eject CD' button then insert your FC3 CDs and run the media check. If all check OK then DO NOT forget to REBOOT your system before going ahead with the installation of FC3 (different kernels). The media check problem is caused by a bug in the FC3 kernel (@#$%^&* 2.6 kernels) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Long computations which yield zero are probably all for naught. From gnichols at tpg.com.au Sun Feb 6 05:02:29 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:02:29 +1100 Subject: More FC3 install problems Message-ID: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> Hello Folks, After getting over the media check failures of FC3 I am now encountering the following error that pops up straight after selecting the keyboard. It is as follows: BUG Assertion (heads >0) at disk_dos.c:485 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed 96 BUG Assertion (sectors<=63) at disk_dos.c:490 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed 96 Clicking on the right button (can't remember what it was labelled now) resulted in a revolving hourglass cursor and a very long wait. Clicking on the 'Ignore' button resulted in aborting the install. I have tried the suggestions in the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ website (boot: linux ide=nodma) but no joy. Has anyone come across the same problem? If so, what is the workaround? My system is P4 3G, 512 Mb RAM, hda 200G (Win XP SP2), hdb 40G (FC2), Radeon 9800XXL video and the usual hardware. The system is a Medion (German make/design) TIA -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BYTE editors are people who separate the wheat from the chaff, and then carefully print the chaff. From bill.brunt at quest.com Sun Feb 6 05:21:51 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:21:51 -0800 Subject: problem with telnet Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF4A@irvmbxw01.quest.com> >>Prepare to be flogged at dawn on Monday morning with a Cat 5 cable. >>Take the day off tomorrow to prepare for the ordeal. Right on, right on, right on! -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:29 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: problem with telnet On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 06:47:59PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > Worked like a charm. Didn't bottom post in this case. What's the correct protocol? Prepare to be flogged at dawn on Monday morning with a Cat 5 cable. Take the day off tomorrow to prepare for the ordeal. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure > Jr > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:15 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: problem with telnet > > > On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:33:12PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > > >> FYI - some people (and distributions) disable telnet by default. It's > > >> probably better to use ssh rather than telnet anyway. > > > > Alright so I'm going to reveal my true ignorance, how does one run ssh > > from the server and client side to get a terminal session? > > > > - Bill > > On the server, run > > chkconfig --list sshd > > If they all say off, then > > chkconfig sshd on > > That will make it come up at the next boot. To see if it's on right > now, run > > service sshd status > > If it's on it will say something like > > sshd (pid 3271 1499) is running... > > If it's not on, then run > > service sshd start > > On a linux box client, from an xterm, run > > ssh > > On a Windoze box, you'll need to download and install PuTTY or > SecureCRT for a good SSH client. Google for them. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From jkinz at kinz.org Sun Feb 6 13:10:46 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 08:10:46 -0500 Subject: problem with telnet In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF48@irvmbxw01.quest.com>; from bill.brunt@quest.com on Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 06:47:59PM -0800 References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC08EFDF48@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <20050206081046.A3461@redline.comcast.net> On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 06:47:59PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > Worked like a charm. Didn't bottom post in this case. What's the correct protocol? > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure > Jr > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:15 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: problem with telnet Bill FYI- There's a plug in for Exchange that helps Exchange do the standard one-line reply quote and fixes other things as well. Its very useful, take a look: To fix Outlook Exchange: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ Gives you this instead of the four liner: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:33:12PM -0800, Bill Brunt wrote: > > Alright so I'm going to reveal my true ignorance, how does one run ssh > > from the server and client side to get a terminal session? Ignorance is only temporary.... (mostly, some days there isn't enough coffee :) > On the server, run chkconfig --list sshd > > If they all say off, then chkconfig sshd on > > That will make it come up at the next boot. To see if it's on right > now, run service sshd status > > If it's on it will say something like > sshd (pid 3271 1499) is running... > > If it's not on, then run service sshd start Quick mini script that gives you shorter service commands: sstatus sshd = service sshd status sstart sshd = service sshd start srestart sshd = service sshd restart sstop sshd = service sshd stop #########################Cut Here ###################################### #!/bin/bash name=`basename $0` action=${name#s} if [ $# -ne 1 ] ; then echo "${action}s the named service" echo "Usage: $name " exit fi /sbin/service $1 $action ###################### END CUT ######################################### To Install: Copy/paste the above text segment into a file in one of your bin directories, I suggest /usr/local/bin. name the file "sstart" make sstart executable chmod +x sstart then create symbolic links to sstart named srestart sstop sstatus ln -s srestart sstart ln -s sstop sstart ln -s sstatus sstart -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com Sun Feb 6 19:15:46 2005 From: dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com (David Morgan) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 11:15:46 -0800 Subject: ES3 won't boot with LVM nearby Message-ID: <42066CE2.3020501@dslextreme.com> Anybody heard of a dual-boot conflict like this, between Fedora3 using LVM, and Enterprise Linux ES3? During inital bootup following installation of ES3 there's a "can't mount" problem. The disk was already half-occupied by a copy of Fedora3 that uses Logical Volume Management. The problem doesn't happen if ES3 is installed as the only OS on the drive. Also no problem when the existing OS is Fedora 2 not using LVM. I'm suspecting it's about LVM being there, probably ES3 doesn't like it. Details below. Ever heard of anything like that? -------------- Problem detail: boot attempt ends in kernel panic, it can't find /sbin/init. That's traceable to previous failure to have mounted the partition holding /sbin/init. A little earlier in the screen messages is something very close to: EXT3-fs error (device ide(3,2)): ext3_check_cescriptors: Block bitmap for group 0 not in group group descriptors corrupted and it doesn't mount. Using EXT2 instead gave similar behavior, slightly different message (about use of unsupported filesystem options). If you boot an independent copy of linux you can mount the problem partition and see all the stuff installed by ES3. No obvious problem. If you run fsck on the partition, it says it's clean but if you force it to check (fsck -f) it does, and finds something group descriptor related and leaves a message that the file system was modified. But when you re-attempt to boot ES3 in this partition, it still fails just the same. Disk partitioning detail: Fedora 3's partitions - sits in 2 partitions, a linux partition /dev/hda1 where /boot is mounted, and an LVM partition /dev/hda2. The LVM partition holds 2 logical volumes, a smaller one formatted and used for swap and a larger one where / is mounted. ES3's partitions - a large /dev/hda3 to mount / and hold the whole filesystem, and a small /dev/hda4 for swap. From tijam32 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 7 12:39:14 2005 From: tijam32 at hotmail.com (Simon Moradi) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:39:14 +0200 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: Hi! I do not reaally undrestand what is it? I'm a bigineer an dI wish you explain me what is this e-mail Simon _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. 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I'm a bigineer an dI wish you > explain me what is this e-mail > Simon > _______________________________________________ > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list follow the above link to read about this list. If you didn't know it was why did you sign up for the list? (This list requires two completely separate actions, one of which is a response to information sent directly to the email account which you used to sign up for the list (and which all the list email is sent to). This is called "double opt-in". There is no way for you to get signed up to this list without having access to that email account. (In this case the account is "tijam32 at hotmail.com") Unless someone has somehow compromised security on that email system and other people ARE able to access other's accounts. Can you verify that you did/did not respond to an email message asking confirmation to subscribe to this list? > -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From tijam32 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 7 15:13:54 2005 From: tijam32 at hotmail.com (Simon Moradi) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:13:54 +0200 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20050207090212.B3461@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: HI! yes it's me. I mean I tried to change the language to finish and Ifailed! Itried to find a driver for IS7 mothrboard I faild! so I need some help that's why I'm confused. If you possibly can help me. I just sen my request to you wrongly. Simon >From: Jeff Kinz <jkinz at kinz.org> >Reply-To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux <redhat-install-list at redhat.com> >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux <redhat-install-list at redhat.com> >Subject: Re: (no subject) >Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:02:12 -0500 > >On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 02:39:14PM +0200, Simon Moradi wrote: > > Hi! > > I do not reaally undrestand what is it? I'm a bigineer an dI wish you > > explain me what is this e-mail > > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >follow the above link to read about this list. > >If you didn't know it was why did you sign up for the list? >(This list requires two completely separate actions, one of which is a >response to information sent directly to the email account which you >used to sign up for the list (and which all the list email is sent to). > >This is called "double opt-in". There is no way for you to get signed >up to this list without having access to that email account. (In this >case the account is "tijam32 at hotmail.com") Unless someone has somehow >compromised security on that email system and other people ARE able to >access other's accounts. > >Can you verify that you did/did not respond to an email message asking >confirmation to subscribe to this list? > > > > >-- >Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. >Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" >http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ >http://kinz.org >http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org >http://www.fedoranews.org >Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From jkinz at kinz.org Mon Feb 7 15:51:30 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:51:30 -0500 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: ; from tijam32@hotmail.com on Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 05:13:54PM +0200 References: <20050207090212.B3461@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050207105130.C3461@redline.comcast.net> On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 05:13:54PM +0200, Simon Moradi wrote: > HI! > yes it's me. > I mean I tried to change the language to finish and Ifailed! Itried to find > a driver for IS7 mothrboard I faild! so I need some help that's why I'm > confused. > If you possibly can help me. I just sen my request to you wrongly. Language can be selected at installation time. On FC2, under the "start" menu, choose "system settings", then choose "language". This assumes that you are running FC2, but may apply to other Fedora releases. What Linux are you running? Do you have the graphical environemnt working yet? Not sure what you mean by a driver for a motherboard. Did you mean a specific integrated device for something on the mother board? Notes on using this email list: #1 - hotmail doesn't interoperate very well with the UNIX tradition: here are some hints: Hotmail * Click on "Compose tab", address the message and fill in the "Subject" line * Before composing the message, click on "Tools" (next to "Copy message to sent folder") * Click on "Rich-text editor OFF" to set off * NOTE: The toggle is actually counter-intuitive. That is, if the drop menu choice says "Rich -Text Editor OFF" RTF formatting is on. When the toggle shows "Rich -Text Editor ON" RTF formatting is off. * If you receive a pop up message "Are you sure you want to do this?" Click "OK" and wait for text formatting tools to disappear * NOTE: If you are using Netscape, then you will NOT be given the the choice to turn ON/OFF RTF formatting. Messages will be sent in plain text format. * Compose your plain text message * Send your plain text message #2 Always "Bottom post" This means - always put your response below what you are responding to, not above, (which is what you did.) Second part of bottom posting is to always delete the extra bits that are not part of the current conversation, like ads inserted at the bottom or email list stuff that gets added to every email. Basically, make the email as short as possible. -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 7 17:27:06 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:27:06 -0800 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: References: <36F03A31518@ecp.imm.gub.uy> <42043B7E.3040609@vitalstream.com> <4204A75B.9030809@tootai.net> <1107610997.29973.1.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> Message-ID: <4207A4EA.50805@vitalstream.com> Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:43:18 +0000, Chris Hewitt > wrote: > >> On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 11:00, administrator tootai wrote: >> >>> Rick Stevens a ??crit : >>> >>> > gmenendez at ecp.imm.gub.uy wrote: >>> > >>> >> Por encontrarme de licencia hasta el 14/02/2005 no podr?? >>> responderles. >>> >> Por consultas de: >>> >> - Tesorer??a dirijase a: Mariela Eijo: meijo at ecp.imm.gub.uy >>> >> - Contabilidad dirijase a: >>> >> Ver??nica Aragor: varagor at ecp.imm.gub.uy >>> >> Antonio La Laina: alalaina at ecp.imm.gub.uy >>> >> Isabel Magadan: imagadan at ecp.imm.gub.uy >>> > >>> > >>> > I should boot this twit off the list as well. Votes, anyone? >>> >>> one vote. I'm fed up of all those guys who didn't care on the >>> consequence of their action. >> >> >> And another. You want to see the number of autoresponders/spam email on >> php-install, I've unsubscribed. I would not want this list to get so bad >> that a majority of its subscribers go away. >> >> Regards >> >> Chris >> > Boot 'em off. Ok, he's gone. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 7 17:29:43 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:29:43 -0800 Subject: Media test failure on CDs burnt from ISO file at 99% In-Reply-To: <42058FE7.3040602@tpg.com.au> References: <420445EE.9030300@tpg.com.au> <200502051044.55234.stuart@sjsears.com> <42058FE7.3040602@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4207A587.1060706@vitalstream.com> Graeme Nichols wrote: > stuart wrote: > >> On Saturday 05 February 2005 04:05, Graeme Nichols wrote: >> >> >>> Hello Folks, >>> >>> I know this has been discussed innumerable times here but I have a >>> somewhat different problem. >>> >>> I finally decided to bite the bullet and install (upgrade) from FC2 to >>> FC3. I had burnt the CDs some time ago using Nero Burning Rom SE under >>> Win XP SP2. I checked them at the time by making sure there was a file >>> system on the CDs. >>> >>> I put CD1 in my drive and booted to the FC3 boot screen, hit 'Enter' and >>> Linux and the USB and firewire drivers loaded etc. >>> >>> I then proceeded to test the CDs. All 4 of them tested to 99% then the >>> drive slowed down, Linux sat there for a while then returned a 'Fail'. >>> All 4 of the CDs failed at 99%. >>> >>> I tried burning a couple of other Disk 1 ISOs to CD including ticking >>> the box that said something like 'Finish the CD, no more writing' or >>> similar and burning from the DVD the ISOs came on (Australian Personal >>> Computer magazine DVD) as well as from the ISO copied from the DVD to >>> Hard Disk. No joy! Same failure when testing the CD. >>> >>> Has anyone else come across a similar problem, and if so, what is the >>> remedy? >>> >>> Very frustrating! I am not prepared to do an upgrade until I can get the >>> media test to complete successfully, for obvious reasons. >>> >> >> This is a known issue with FC3 cds: >> try booting from CD1 and typing >> linux mediacheck nocddma >> at the boot: prompt >> good references for other issues: >> http://www.fedorafaq.org/ >> http://www.fedoranews.org/ >> >> HTH >> >> Stuart >> > Hello Stuart, the boot argument 'linux mediacheck nocddma' does NOT work > on my system. I get exactly the same problem. My system is P4 3Ghz, > 512Mb RAM, two optical drives (1 DVD writer, 1 DVD reader) , Radeon 9800 > XXL video card, 200Ghz hda (Win XP SP2), 40Ghz hdb (Linux FC2) and all > the usual hardware. Booting from either optical drive results in the > same problem. > > I checked out the links you gave and I can see nothing else on this > problem. Do you have any other tips to getting past this problem? You did burn these on 700MB media, right? The disks are rather full and will fail if you used 650MB blank media. You can also try "linux nodma mediacheck" to disable DMA completely. > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 7 17:31:45 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:31:45 -0800 Subject: printing In-Reply-To: <20050205093238.B16000@redline.comcast.net> References: <1107562387.johnrichardson75@supanet.com> <42043895.2000502@vitalstream.com> <42043B1F.5040808@vitalstream.com> <20050205093238.B16000@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4207A601.1040604@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 07:18:55PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>>johnrichardson75 at supanet.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I repeat u hav got the wrong address. >>>> >>>>No more emails please >>> > .................... > >>Ok, I booted him off the list. What an idjit! > > > Dear Gentlemen and, if any, Ladies of the list: > > I implore thee to take a more charitable path with this pathetic wretch. > > Obviously johnrichardson cannot handle the power of the technology he > has been given. His is riding the tiger and cannot let go. > > We MUST assist him in all possible ways.... ;-) > > I suggest that one way we can help this poor man is by helping him get > off the spam lists. > > For the next two weeks if everyone on the list would enter his email > name into the "remove me" web pages of all the spam they recieve > we would obviously greatly reduce the amount of spam he is getting. > > Clearly he needs all the help he can get with things like this. > > (ah.. never mind, just an entertaining thought.... ) Ooooo! You evil, evil genius! Remind me not to p*ss you off! ;-P ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... - - ...once. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 7 17:38:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 09:38:15 -0800 Subject: ES3 won't boot with LVM nearby In-Reply-To: <42066CE2.3020501@dslextreme.com> References: <42066CE2.3020501@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <4207A787.3050209@vitalstream.com> David Morgan wrote: > Anybody heard of a dual-boot conflict like this, between Fedora3 using > LVM, and Enterprise Linux ES3? > > During inital bootup following installation of ES3 there's a "can't > mount" problem. The disk was already half-occupied by a copy of Fedora3 > that uses Logical Volume Management. The problem doesn't happen if ES3 > is installed as the only OS on the drive. Also no problem when the > existing OS is Fedora 2 not using LVM. I'm suspecting it's about LVM > being there, probably ES3 doesn't like it. > > Details below. Ever heard of anything like that? > -------------- > > Problem detail: boot attempt ends in kernel panic, it can't find > /sbin/init. That's traceable to previous failure to have mounted the > partition holding /sbin/init. A little earlier in the screen messages is > something very close to: > > EXT3-fs error (device ide(3,2)): ext3_check_cescriptors: Block bitmap > for group 0 not in group > group descriptors corrupted > > and it doesn't mount. Using EXT2 instead gave similar behavior, slightly > different message (about use of unsupported filesystem options). If you > boot an independent copy of linux you can mount the problem partition > and see all the stuff installed by ES3. No obvious problem. If you run > fsck on the partition, it says it's clean but if you force it to check > (fsck -f) it does, and finds something group descriptor related and > leaves a message that the file system was modified. But when you > re-attempt to boot ES3 in this partition, it still fails just the same. > > > Disk partitioning detail: > Fedora 3's partitions - sits in 2 partitions, a linux partition > /dev/hda1 where /boot is mounted, and an LVM partition /dev/hda2. The > LVM partition holds 2 logical volumes, a smaller one formatted and used > for swap and a larger one where / is mounted. > ES3's partitions - a large /dev/hda3 to mount / and hold the whole > filesystem, and a small /dev/hda4 for swap. FC3 (kernel 2.6.x) uses LVM2, ES/AS3 (kernel 2.4.x) uses LVM1. They're not completely compatible. LVM2 can handle LVM1 volumes, but not vice versa. I suspect an AS/ES3 install with LVM followed by an FC3 install would work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com Mon Feb 7 22:19:24 2005 From: dmorgan1 at dslextreme.com (David Morgan) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:19:24 -0800 Subject: ES3 won't boot with LVM nearby References: <42066CE2.3020501@dslextreme.com> <4207A787.3050209@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4207E96C.3090208@dslextreme.com> What's ide(3,2)? LVM 1 vs 2, good thought, thanks. The surprise to me is that ES3 when booting pays any attention at all to the /dev/hda2 partition holding FC3's stuff in LVM2 form. I would expect ES3 to ignore that partition since ES3 was installed into a single wholly different partition and GRUB should point it there. I guess the "type" tag (8e) on the LVM partition that was set up by FC3 is enough to make ES3 try to work with that partition, and when it looks at the contents, which follow the rules of LVM2, it can't understand them. I'm wondering am I right that ES2 is delving into /dev/hda2? the error message references ide(3,2), what's that? The error message specifies "EXT3-fs error" and the EXT3 partition is /dev/hda3, suggests the problematic partition is *not* the LVM one. (If it were, maybe a GRUB "hide" directive could force ES3 not to see the offending partition when it boots.) I'm confused. Rick Stevens wrote: > David Morgan wrote: > >> Anybody heard of a dual-boot conflict like this, between Fedora3 >> using LVM, and Enterprise Linux ES3? >> >> During inital bootup following installation of ES3 there's a "can't >> mount" problem. The disk was already half-occupied by a copy of >> Fedora3 that uses Logical Volume Management. The problem doesn't >> happen if ES3 is installed as the only OS on the drive. Also no >> problem when the existing OS is Fedora 2 not using LVM. I'm >> suspecting it's about LVM being there, probably ES3 doesn't like it. >> >> Details below. Ever heard of anything like that? >> -------------- >> >> Problem detail: boot attempt ends in kernel panic, it can't find >> /sbin/init. That's traceable to previous failure to have mounted the >> partition holding /sbin/init. A little earlier in the screen messages >> is something very close to: >> >> EXT3-fs error (device ide(3,2)): ext3_check_cescriptors: Block bitmap >> for group 0 not in group >> group descriptors corrupted >> >> and it doesn't mount. Using EXT2 instead gave similar behavior, >> slightly different message (about use of unsupported filesystem >> options). If you boot an independent copy of linux you can mount the >> problem partition and see all the stuff installed by ES3. No obvious >> problem. If you run fsck on the partition, it says it's clean but if >> you force it to check (fsck -f) it does, and finds something group >> descriptor related and leaves a message that the file system was >> modified. But when you re-attempt to boot ES3 in this partition, it >> still fails just the same. >> >> >> Disk partitioning detail: >> Fedora 3's partitions - sits in 2 partitions, a linux partition >> /dev/hda1 where /boot is mounted, and an LVM partition /dev/hda2. The >> LVM partition holds 2 logical volumes, a smaller one formatted and >> used for swap and a larger one where / is mounted. >> ES3's partitions - a large /dev/hda3 to mount / and hold the whole >> filesystem, and a small /dev/hda4 for swap. > > > FC3 (kernel 2.6.x) uses LVM2, ES/AS3 (kernel 2.4.x) uses LVM1. They're > not completely compatible. LVM2 can handle LVM1 volumes, but not vice > versa. I suspect an AS/ES3 install with LVM followed by an FC3 install > would work. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 7 23:41:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:41:29 -0800 Subject: ES3 won't boot with LVM nearby In-Reply-To: <4207E96C.3090208@dslextreme.com> References: <42066CE2.3020501@dslextreme.com> <4207A787.3050209@vitalstream.com> <4207E96C.3090208@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <4207FCA9.3030403@vitalstream.com> David Morgan wrote: > What's ide(3,2)? > > LVM 1 vs 2, good thought, thanks. The surprise to me is that ES3 when > booting pays any attention at all to the /dev/hda2 partition holding > FC3's stuff in LVM2 form. I would expect ES3 to ignore that partition > since ES3 was installed into a single wholly different partition and > GRUB should point it there. It should, but it may be paying attention to labels on the filesystems. grub only points at the root filesystem. After that, the OS looks at /etc/fstab to mount the other stuff. Since it's not crashing with a "can't find root filesystem" error, grub has done its job. > I guess the "type" tag (8e) on the LVM > partition that was set up by FC3 is enough to make ES3 try to work with > that partition, and when it looks at the contents, which follow the > rules of LVM2, it can't understand them. I suspect that's the issue. > I'm wondering am I right that > ES2 is delving into /dev/hda2? the error message references ide(3,2), > what's that? The error message specifies "EXT3-fs error" and the EXT3 > partition is /dev/hda3, suggests the problematic partition is *not* the > LVM one. (If it were, maybe a GRUB "hide" directive could force ES3 not > to see the offending partition when it boots.) I'm confused. Again, once the OS is up and sees "/", it'll try to mount whatever is set to automount in /etc/fstab. If ES3's /etc/fstab says to try to mount /dev/hda2, it'll try to, and methinks that's where your failure is coming from. By the way, David, we prefer bottom posting on this list. It's easier to follow the logic of the various discussions that way. > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> David Morgan wrote: >> >>> Anybody heard of a dual-boot conflict like this, between Fedora3 >>> using LVM, and Enterprise Linux ES3? >>> >>> During inital bootup following installation of ES3 there's a "can't >>> mount" problem. The disk was already half-occupied by a copy of >>> Fedora3 that uses Logical Volume Management. The problem doesn't >>> happen if ES3 is installed as the only OS on the drive. Also no >>> problem when the existing OS is Fedora 2 not using LVM. I'm >>> suspecting it's about LVM being there, probably ES3 doesn't like it. >>> >>> Details below. Ever heard of anything like that? >>> -------------- >>> >>> Problem detail: boot attempt ends in kernel panic, it can't find >>> /sbin/init. That's traceable to previous failure to have mounted the >>> partition holding /sbin/init. A little earlier in the screen messages >>> is something very close to: >>> >>> EXT3-fs error (device ide(3,2)): ext3_check_cescriptors: Block bitmap >>> for group 0 not in group >>> group descriptors corrupted >>> >>> and it doesn't mount. Using EXT2 instead gave similar behavior, >>> slightly different message (about use of unsupported filesystem >>> options). If you boot an independent copy of linux you can mount the >>> problem partition and see all the stuff installed by ES3. No obvious >>> problem. If you run fsck on the partition, it says it's clean but if >>> you force it to check (fsck -f) it does, and finds something group >>> descriptor related and leaves a message that the file system was >>> modified. But when you re-attempt to boot ES3 in this partition, it >>> still fails just the same. >>> >>> >>> Disk partitioning detail: >>> Fedora 3's partitions - sits in 2 partitions, a linux partition >>> /dev/hda1 where /boot is mounted, and an LVM partition /dev/hda2. The >>> LVM partition holds 2 logical volumes, a smaller one formatted and >>> used for swap and a larger one where / is mounted. >>> ES3's partitions - a large /dev/hda3 to mount / and hold the whole >>> filesystem, and a small /dev/hda4 for swap. >> >> >> >> FC3 (kernel 2.6.x) uses LVM2, ES/AS3 (kernel 2.4.x) uses LVM1. They're >> not completely compatible. LVM2 can handle LVM1 volumes, but not vice >> versa. I suspect an AS/ES3 install with LVM followed by an FC3 install >> would work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gnichols at tpg.com.au Tue Feb 8 04:16:56 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:16:56 +1100 Subject: Media test failure on CDs burnt from ISO file at 99% In-Reply-To: <4207A587.1060706@vitalstream.com> References: <420445EE.9030300@tpg.com.au> <200502051044.55234.stuart@sjsears.com> <42058FE7.3040602@tpg.com.au> <4207A587.1060706@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42083D38.7050408@tpg.com.au> Rick Stevens wrote: > Graeme Nichols wrote: > >> stuart wrote: >> >>> On Saturday 05 February 2005 04:05, Graeme Nichols wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hello Folks, >>>> >>>> I know this has been discussed innumerable times here but I have a >>>> somewhat different problem. >>>> >>>> I finally decided to bite the bullet and install (upgrade) from FC2 to >>>> FC3. I had burnt the CDs some time ago using Nero Burning Rom SE under >>>> Win XP SP2. I checked them at the time by making sure there was a file >>>> system on the CDs. >>>> >>>> I put CD1 in my drive and booted to the FC3 boot screen, hit >>>> 'Enter' and >>>> Linux and the USB and firewire drivers loaded etc. >>>> >>>> I then proceeded to test the CDs. All 4 of them tested to 99% then the >>>> drive slowed down, Linux sat there for a while then returned a 'Fail'. >>>> All 4 of the CDs failed at 99%. >>>> >>>> I tried burning a couple of other Disk 1 ISOs to CD including ticking >>>> the box that said something like 'Finish the CD, no more writing' or >>>> similar and burning from the DVD the ISOs came on (Australian Personal >>>> Computer magazine DVD) as well as from the ISO copied from the DVD to >>>> Hard Disk. No joy! Same failure when testing the CD. >>>> >>>> Has anyone else come across a similar problem, and if so, what is the >>>> remedy? >>>> >>>> Very frustrating! I am not prepared to do an upgrade until I can >>>> get the >>>> media test to complete successfully, for obvious reasons. >>>> >>> >>> >>> This is a known issue with FC3 cds: >>> try booting from CD1 and typing >>> linux mediacheck nocddma >>> at the boot: prompt >>> good references for other issues: >>> http://www.fedorafaq.org/ >>> http://www.fedoranews.org/ >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Stuart >>> >> Hello Stuart, the boot argument 'linux mediacheck nocddma' does NOT >> work on my system. I get exactly the same problem. My system is P4 >> 3Ghz, 512Mb RAM, two optical drives (1 DVD writer, 1 DVD reader) , >> Radeon 9800 XXL video card, 200Ghz hda (Win XP SP2), 40Ghz hdb (Linux >> FC2) and all the usual hardware. Booting from either optical drive >> results in the same problem. >> >> I checked out the links you gave and I can see nothing else on this >> problem. Do you have any other tips to getting past this problem? > > > You did burn these on 700MB media, right? The disks are rather full and > will fail if you used 650MB blank media. > > You can also try "linux nodma mediacheck" to disable DMA completely. > >> > > Hi Rick, yes, they were burned to 700Mb media (the only CDs one can purchase where I buy them). It is apparently a known kernel bug in FC3 according to the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ web site. Problem is though, the workaround supplied by RedHat doesn't work on my machine. MY workaround is to load my FC2 CD1 and run the media check from there. They all checked OK. My new problem that prevents me installing FC3 on my machine is as follows: BUG Assertion (heads >0) at disk_dos.c:485 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed 96 BUG Assertion (sectors<=63) at disk_dos.c:490 in function probe_partition_for_geom() failed 96 Clicking on the right button (can't remember what it was labelled now) resulted in a revolving hourglass cursor and a very long wait 'till my patience ran out. Clicking on the 'Ignore' button resulted in aborting the install. I've tried all the boot arguments RedHat has listed at boot time plus a couple I saw elsewhere but the error still occurs. It pops up straight after selecting the keyboard. My system is P4 3G, 512 Mb RAM, hda 200G (Win XP SP2 3 partitions), hdb 40G (FC2), Radeon 9800XXL video and the usual hardware. The system is a Medion (German make/design) Have you heard of this before? If so, what's the workaround? TIA -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Conceptual integrity in turn dictates that the design must proceed from one mind, or from a very small number of agreeing resonant minds. -- Frederick Brooks Jr., "The Mythical Man Month" From shane.presley at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 20:43:47 2005 From: shane.presley at gmail.com (Shane Presley) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:43:47 -0500 Subject: Dell 1850? Message-ID: <27ae921605020812432cd7f684@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have any experience with the Dell 1850s and Red Hat Enterprise 3? I had previously used Dell 1650s and 1750s with no problem. The RHEL install recognized the onboard RAID controllers. But with the 1850 Dell changed to the PerRAID 4d/SI, and RedHat doesn't seem to have integrated drivers for it. The bundled Dell "Server Assistant" CD wants to take controll over the RHEL install, which I don't like. I tried to find the RAID drivers on the Dell website, but so far no luck. Shane From Padmanabh.Padaki at webex.com Tue Feb 8 23:06:14 2005 From: Padmanabh.Padaki at webex.com (Padmanabh Padaki) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:06:14 -0800 Subject: Dell 1850? Message-ID: The easiest thing to do is to download the latest updates from RedHat, burn and use those CD's for installation. With this, you have the control and do not need the Server Assistant CD. The updates have the drivers... It works fine. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Shane Presley Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:44 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Dell 1850? Does anyone have any experience with the Dell 1850s and Red Hat Enterprise 3? I had previously used Dell 1650s and 1750s with no problem. The RHEL install recognized the onboard RAID controllers. But with the 1850 Dell changed to the PerRAID 4d/SI, and RedHat doesn't seem to have integrated drivers for it. The bundled Dell "Server Assistant" CD wants to take controll over the RHEL install, which I don't like. I tried to find the RAID drivers on the Dell website, but so far no luck. Shane _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hmann at itgroundwork.com Tue Feb 8 23:49:44 2005 From: hmann at itgroundwork.com (Harper Mann) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:49:44 -0800 Subject: Dell 1850? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200502082349.j18NnukC000649@mx1.redhat.com> It might be best to relax and enjoy the "Dell experience" from the "server assistant" CD. It's far easier than figuring out all the driver issues by hand. I wouldn't be surprised if Dell didn't publish it's drivers or published down-rev ones which would be bad. On the up side, I've not had problems with RHEL on 1850s after using "server assistant". Best, - Harper Harper Mann Groundwork Open Source Solutions 510-599-2075 (cell) http://itgroundwork.com _____ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Padmanabh Padaki Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:06 PM To: 'Shane Presley'; 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' Subject: RE: Dell 1850? The easiest thing to do is to download the latest updates from RedHat, burn and use those CD's for installation. With this, you have the control and do not need the Server Assistant CD. The updates have the drivers... It works fine. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Shane Presley Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:44 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Dell 1850? Does anyone have any experience with the Dell 1850s and Red Hat Enterprise 3? I had previously used Dell 1650s and 1750s with no problem. The RHEL install recognized the onboard RAID controllers. But with the 1850 Dell changed to the PerRAID 4d/SI, and RedHat doesn't seem to have integrated drivers for it. The bundled Dell "Server Assistant" CD wants to take controll over the RHEL install, which I don't like. I tried to find the RAID drivers on the Dell website, but so far no luck. Shane _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shane.presley at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 23:58:13 2005 From: shane.presley at gmail.com (Shane Presley) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:58:13 -0500 Subject: Dell 1850? In-Reply-To: <42095020.01bafe89.3f98.1b84SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> References: <42095020.01bafe89.3f98.1b84SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27ae92160502081558193e8e38@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:49:44 -0800, Harper Mann wrote: > It might be best to relax and enjoy the "Dell experience" from the "server > assistant" CD. > > It's far easier than figuring out all the driver issues by hand. I wouldn't > be surprised if Dell didn't publish it's drivers or published down-rev ones > which would be bad. > > On the up side, I've not had problems with RHEL on 1850s after using "server > assistant". Very possible. But can you explain a little more about what you had to do after your Server Assistant install? For example, I noticed two things so far that I don't like -It doesn't seem to install GNOME or any graphical interface? -Server Assistant wants to setup my partition for my. When Disk Druid did it during the normal RedHat install I could select a 100MB boot, a swap, and the rest a big /. The Dell tool wants to create different partitions for /usr, /thome, etc. I know you could argue the advantages of that, but regardless, it doesn't match our current practices. So I would have to re-partition? Thanks, Shane From shane.presley at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 23:58:53 2005 From: shane.presley at gmail.com (Shane Presley) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:58:53 -0500 Subject: Dell 1850? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27ae9216050208155832fc7716@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:06:14 -0800, Padmanabh Padaki wrote: > The easiest thing to do is to download the latest updates from RedHat, burn > and use those CD's for installation. With this, you have the control and do > not need the Server Assistant CD. The updates have the drivers... It works > fine. Sounds like that's exactly what I need. Does that mean an entire new 4 disk install set? Do you know where I download that from? Thanks, Shane From hmann at itgroundwork.com Wed Feb 9 00:19:38 2005 From: hmann at itgroundwork.com (Harper Mann) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:19:38 -0800 Subject: Dell 1850? In-Reply-To: <27ae92160502081558193e8e38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502090019.j190JZKR026420@mx3.redhat.com> If I remember, even though Dell configures a partition, when RH boots, it still calls disk driud and you can partition again. I also prefer the default /boot size and one big /. It also goes over the packages section so you should be able to select those as well. Does it look like Dell is creating a Kickstart and calling the install? Dell changes the process a lot. You may also be able to tell it what you want at the Boot: prompt in the install. Perhaps "linux askmethod" and then "cdrom". Another idea would be to kill the install from Dell after it starts in on the RHEL stuff. I think the RAID is configured and will boot up after the first disk. You can then start fresh from CDROM with RHEL disks. Good luck! - Harper Harper Mann Groundwork Open Source Solutions 510-599-2075 (cell) http://itgroundwork.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Presley [mailto:shane.presley at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:58 PM > To: hmann at itgroundwork.com; redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: Dell 1850? > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:49:44 -0800, Harper Mann > wrote: > > It might be best to relax and enjoy the "Dell experience" from the > "server > > assistant" CD. > > > > It's far easier than figuring out all the driver issues by hand. I > wouldn't > > be surprised if Dell didn't publish it's drivers or published down-rev > ones > > which would be bad. > > > > On the up side, I've not had problems with RHEL on 1850s after using > "server > > assistant". > > Very possible. But can you explain a little more about what you had > to do after your Server Assistant install? For example, I noticed two > things so far that I don't like > > -It doesn't seem to install GNOME or any graphical interface? > > -Server Assistant wants to setup my partition for my. When Disk Druid > did it during the normal RedHat install I could select a 100MB boot, a > swap, and the rest a big /. The Dell tool wants to create different > partitions for /usr, /thome, etc. I know you could argue the > advantages of that, but regardless, it doesn't match our current > practices. So I would have to re-partition? > > Thanks, > Shane From EnricoToniolo at calearo.com Wed Feb 9 08:09:31 2005 From: EnricoToniolo at calearo.com (Enrico Toniolo) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:09:31 +0100 Subject: problem with XFree and video card detecting installing RH WS Enterprise Ed. 3 Message-ID: Hello to All, first of all I advise I'm all but expert of linux o.s., and I apologise if my question may be trivial for someone, now my problem: I have an IBM Intellistation A-Pro (AMD64bit Opteron) with "Linux Red Hat WS Enterprise Edition version 3" preinstalled. I have had to reinstall all the O.S. with a different scheme of partitions but, it didn't install properly as I am going to describe in the following: 1. The CD 1, of 10 of the "Linux Red Hat WS Enterprise Edition" included with the Workstation, was given to the Workstation when it started up. 2. I chose the graphical mode but the installer did not detect any video card (what mounted in the machine is Nvidia Quadro FX 1100), so the textual mode started. 3. Then I chose to install everything, and the installation finished well, but 4. Linux startup in textual mode and doesn't exist any /etc/X11/XF86Config configuration file or any xf86config, XF86Setup or Xconfigurator or xf86cfg executable to configure it. What I think is that after the Linux-installer didn't detect/recognize any video card it doesn't install XFree properly or completely, because even installing the video card driver from: ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/intellistation/nvidia-linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg2.run it wasn't possible to configure any XFree for the same reason of the point 4 above. Probably after installing the video card driver, XFree must be reinstalled, but I don't know how, and I'm not completely sure of that. When the IBM Opteron arrived, the Linux there preinstalled worked properly. So it means there is a way to install it properly from the 10 Installation CDs included and the Nvidia driver not included. This way is not described in the Installation Guide Book there included. So I ask what steps to follow for a correct and complete (with XFree and KDE) installation of Linux 3 WS Ent. Edition. hoping for instructions, thanks in advance for the help and kind regards, Enrico Toniolo From evdhn at advalvas.be Wed Feb 9 12:49:21 2005 From: evdhn at advalvas.be (evdhn at advalvas.be) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:49:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? Message-ID: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory exported by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move the cluster service to the other cluster member. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420A288B.1050600@sjsears.com> Thomas.vonSteiger at swisscom.com wrote: > RHES3: comand's to config networkadapters ? > Hello > Are there a way to configure the Networkinterfaces or the network config files "ifcfg-eth0?1", "route-eth1" and?or "network" whit a shell comand ? > The only way that i know is redirect direct to the config files or to use redhat-config-network with a gui for Enterprise Server 3.0. > regards, > Thomas netconfig --help netconfig -d eth0:1 --domain=example.com --gateway=192.168.0.1 --ip=192.168.0.35 --netmask=255.255.255.0 etc etc Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 9 18:00:23 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:00:23 -0800 Subject: problem with XFree and video card detecting installing RH WS Enterprise Ed. 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420A4FB7.9070802@vitalstream.com> Enrico Toniolo wrote: > Hello to All, > > first of all I advise I'm all but expert of linux o.s., and I apologise if > my question may be trivial for someone, now my problem: > > I have an IBM Intellistation A-Pro (AMD64bit Opteron) with "Linux Red Hat > WS Enterprise Edition version 3" preinstalled. I have had to reinstall all > the O.S. with a different scheme of partitions but, it didn't install > properly as I am going to describe in the following: > > 1. The CD 1, of 10 of the "Linux Red Hat WS Enterprise Edition" included > with the Workstation, was given to the Workstation when it started up. > 2. I chose the graphical mode but the installer did not detect any video > card (what mounted in the machine is Nvidia Quadro FX 1100), so the textual > mode started. > 3. Then I chose to install everything, and the installation finished well, > but > 4. Linux startup in textual mode and doesn't exist any /etc/X11/XF86Config > configuration file or any xf86config, XF86Setup or Xconfigurator or xf86cfg > executable to configure it. > > What I think is that after the Linux-installer didn't detect/recognize any > video card it doesn't install XFree properly or completely, because even > installing the video card driver from: > > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/intellistation/nvidia-linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg2.run > > it wasn't possible to configure any XFree for the same reason of the point > 4 above. Probably after installing the video card driver, XFree must be > reinstalled, but I don't know how, and I'm not completely sure of that. Assuming you ran the installer after you downloaded it via: sh nvidia-linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg2.run you must run the script "redhat-config-xfree86" as the root user. That SHOULD set things up. You can check it by doing "telinit 5". If X comes up, you've got it set up and you need to edit /etc/inittab and change the line that reads id:3:initdefault: to read id:5:initdefault: to make the system boot into X. > When the IBM Opteron arrived, the Linux there preinstalled worked properly. > So it means there is a way to install it properly from the 10 Installation > CDs included and the Nvidia driver not included. This way is not described > in the Installation Guide Book there included. > > So I ask what steps to follow for a correct and complete (with XFree and > KDE) installation of Linux 3 WS Ent. Edition. Do what I mentioned above. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 9 18:01:50 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:01:50 -0800 Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> Message-ID: <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: > In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory exported > by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? > I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move the > cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been > stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client and server. That's the most common problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From evdhn at advalvas.be Thu Feb 10 10:31:48 2005 From: evdhn at advalvas.be (evdhn at advalvas.be) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:31:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> > evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >> In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory exported >> by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? >> I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move the >> cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been >> stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. > > Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client and > server. That's the most common problem. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for your answer Rick, but apparently I explained poorly. This is a two-member cluster with hostnames arneb and nihal and services lepusbb and lepustl. When service lepusbb runs on arneb, I cannot nfs mount its device on arneb using the service name. I.e. # mount -t nfs lepusbb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb does not work on arneb, but it does work on nihal. Similarly, I can mount lepustl:/usr/local/lepus-tl on arneb but not on nihal. I meanwhile found that # mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb does work, so I'm currently using that as a workaround, but obviously, when a failover would occur while the devices are locally mounted, my scripts wil be in trouble. And yes, portmapper and nfslock are running: # ps auxw | egrep -e lock -e portm | grep -v grep rpc 3109 0.0 0.0 1672 608 ? S 10:36 0:00 portmap root 3314 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:36 0:00 [lockd] root 3453 0.0 0.0 3064 3064 ? S Thank you, but now probably there is still an equally trivial problem: no screen found. I tried with "redhat-config-xfree86 --set-vh...=" but this doesn't solve the problem. Attached is the log file. I hope this maight be simply fixed, and there will be no other problems. (See attached file: XFree86.0.log) Thanks in advance for the help. best regards ENRICO TONIOLO Enrico Toniolo wrote: > > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/intellistation/nvidia-linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg2.run > Assuming you ran the installer after you downloaded it via: sh nvidia-linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg2.run you must run the script "redhat-config-xfree86" as the root user. That SHOULD set things up. You can check it by doing "telinit 5". If X comes up, you've got it set up and you need to edit /etc/inittab and change the line that reads id:3:initdefault: to read id:5:initdefault: to make the system boot into X. > > So I ask what steps to follow for a correct and complete (with XFree and > KDE) installation of Linux 3 WS Ent. Edition. Do what I mentioned above. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: XFree86.0.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1855 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 16:11:25 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:11:25 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CA83@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Hello All, I have successfully installed AS3 on a IA64 (HP Rx4640 system). But when I attempt to compile the kernel and do the modules the module compile fails everytime. So far I have removed all modules I do not need from the kernel and I still keep failing. Attached is a copy of the module build. Any assistance would be appreciated... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: modules.txt URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 17:06:16 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:06:16 -0800 Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> Message-ID: <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >>evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >> >>>In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory exported >>>by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? >>>I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move the >>>cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been >>>stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. >> >>Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client and >>server. That's the most common problem. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Thanks for your answer Rick, but apparently I explained poorly. > > This is a two-member cluster with hostnames arneb and nihal and services > lepusbb and lepustl. > When service lepusbb runs on arneb, I cannot nfs mount its device on arneb > using the service name. I.e. > # mount -t nfs lepusbb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb > does not work on arneb, but it does work on nihal. > Similarly, I can mount lepustl:/usr/local/lepus-tl on arneb but not on nihal. > > I meanwhile found that > # mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb > does work, so I'm currently using that as a workaround, but obviously, > when a failover would occur while the devices are locally mounted, my > scripts wil be in trouble. > > And yes, portmapper and nfslock are running: > # ps auxw | egrep -e lock -e portm | grep -v grep > rpc 3109 0.0 0.0 1672 608 ? S 10:36 0:00 portmap > root 3314 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:36 0:00 [lockd] > root 3453 0.0 0.0 3064 3064 ? S /usr/sbin/clulockd First, are you sure the device is being exported by arneb and that arneb is permitted to mount it? A "showmount -e arneb" will show what's being exported and who's allowed to look at it. I'm not familiar with RH's HA (high availability) structure so I can't speak to the details, but generally it's something along those lines. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "If you can't fix it...duct tape it!" - Tim Allen - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr Thu Feb 10 18:49:14 2005 From: Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr (Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:49:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH Message-ID: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> Hi all, I installed recently various machines with red hat enterprise 3. I then upgraded all the packages by using upd2date in red hat network. Since then, the audio facilities are out of order (they were OK before). The redhat-config-soundcard tool runs correctly, still displays the audio driver info, but the 'test sound' button no more plays anything. The various Volume Control tools do not run, nore the audio players. Executing more /var/log/messages results in (extract) >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 The machines are DELL precision 360, with Analog Device internal AD1980-AC97 sound cards. I tried to reinstall drivers provided by DELL (and even ASUS) for the card. No success. What should I do ? Thx Nicolas From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 17:12:32 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:12:32 -0800 Subject: problem with XFree and video card detecting installing RH WS Enterprise Ed. 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420B9600.6010307@vitalstream.com> Enrico Toniolo wrote: > Thank you, > > but now probably there is still an equally trivial problem: no screen > found. I tried with "redhat-config-xfree86 --set-vh...=" but this doesn't > solve the problem. Attached is the log file. I hope this maight be simply > fixed, and there will be no other problems. It's not seeing the video card, therefore it can't probe the monitor. Try it again, but use "redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig". Also, if you know which driver was installed, you can try tacking "-set-driver=drivername" to the end, e.g. if the driver was called "nvidia": redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig --set-driver=nvidia ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 17:15:50 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:15:50 -0800 Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH In-Reply-To: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> References: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0502100915d56eeb6@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:49:14 +0100 (CET), Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed recently various machines with red hat enterprise 3. > I then upgraded all the packages by using upd2date in red hat network. > > Since then, the audio facilities are out of order (they were OK before). > > The redhat-config-soundcard tool runs correctly, still displays the audio > driver info, but the 'test sound' button no more plays anything. > > The various Volume Control tools do not run, nore the audio players. > > Executing more /var/log/messages results in > (extract) > >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 > >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 > >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 > >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 > >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 > >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 > > The machines are DELL precision 360, with Analog Device internal > AD1980-AC97 sound cards. > I tried to reinstall drivers provided by DELL (and even ASUS) for the > card. No success. > > What should I do ? > 1) Let's look at the state of Alsa and find out what's going on: cat /proc/asound/version cat /proc/asound/cards 2) What modules did you want loaded? cat /etc/modprobe.conf 3) What modules are loaded? lsmod 4) What sound hardware is really in your system? lspci -vv AND TRIM PLEASE!!! >From there we'll have a better idea what step to take next From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 17:18:00 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:18:00 -0800 Subject: IA64 Install Problem In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CA83@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> References: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CA83@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <420B9748.90604@vitalstream.com> Smith, Albert wrote: > Hello All, > > I have successfully installed AS3 on a IA64 (HP Rx4640 system). But > when I attempt to compile the kernel and do the modules the module > compile fails everytime. So far I have removed all modules I do not need > from the kernel and I still keep failing. Attached is a copy of the > module build. What makes you think it failed? I don't see any indications of failure in what you attached. Quick notes on 2.4 kernel builds: 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config file and do a "make mrproper" first. 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, then make your changes. Save the changes. 3. "make dep" 4. "make clean" 5. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling modules) 6. "make modules" To install: 7. "make modules_install" 8. "make install" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > make -r -f tmp_include_depends all > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' > make -C arch/ia64/tools CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' > make -C arch/ia64/kernel CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/kernel' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/kernel' > make -C arch/ia64/mm CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/mm' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/mm' > make -C arch/ia64/lib CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/lib' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/lib' > make -C arch/ia64/ia32 CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/ia32' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/ia32' > make -C arch/ia64/hp CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/hp' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/hp' > make -C arch/ia64/dig CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/dig' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/dig' > make -C kernel CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel' > make -C drivers CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers' > make -C acpi modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/acpi' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/acpi' > make -C addon modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/addon' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/addon' > make -C block modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/block' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/block' > make -C cdrom modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/cdrom' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/cdrom' > make -C char modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char' > make -C joystick modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char/joystick' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char/joystick' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char' > make -C hotplug modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/hotplug' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/hotplug' > make -C ide modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide' > make -C arm modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/arm' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/arm' > make -C legacy modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/legacy' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/legacy' > make -C pci modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/pci' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/pci' > make -C ppc modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/ppc' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/ppc' > make -C raid modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/raid' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/raid' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide' > make -C input modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/input' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/input' > make -C media modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media' > make -C radio modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/radio' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/radio' > make -C video modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/video' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/video' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media' > make -C misc modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/misc' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/misc' > make -C net modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net' > make -C fc modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net/fc' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net/fc' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net' > make -C parport modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/parport' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/parport' > make -C scsi modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/scsi' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/scsi' > make -C sound modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/sound' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/sound' > make -C video modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/video' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/video' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers' > make -C mm CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/mm' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/mm' > make -C fs CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs' > make -C nls modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs/nls' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs/nls' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs' > make -C net CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net' > make -C core modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/core' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/core' > make -C ipv4 modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4' > make -C ipv4/netfilter modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4/netfilter' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4/netfilter' > make -C key modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/key' > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=af_key -c -o af_key.o af_key.c > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/key' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net' > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Grabel's Law: 2 is not equal to 3--not even for large values of 2. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart at sjsears.com Thu Feb 10 18:12:45 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:12:45 +0000 Subject: problem with XFree and video card detecting installing RH WS Enterprise Ed. 3 In-Reply-To: <420B9600.6010307@vitalstream.com> References: <420B9600.6010307@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <420BA41D.2060104@sjsears.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > Enrico Toniolo wrote: > >> Thank you, >> >> but now probably there is still an equally trivial problem: no screen >> found. I tried with "redhat-config-xfree86 --set-vh...=" but this doesn't >> solve the problem. Attached is the log file. I hope this maight be simply >> fixed, and there will be no other problems. > > > It's not seeing the video card, therefore it can't probe the monitor. > Try it again, but use "redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig". Also, if you > know which driver was installed, you can try tacking > "-set-driver=drivername" to the end, e.g. if the driver was called > "nvidia": This will solve it, but the real problem appears to be this From your log file): (EE) Unable to locate/open config file which suggests that there is no /etc/X11/XF86Config file at all. if you are still having problems, try modprobe nvidia and see if it works... Stuart From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 18:21:15 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:21:15 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CABF@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Sorry I made a mistake with the attachment. Here is the correct file. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:18 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem Smith, Albert wrote: > Hello All, > > I have successfully installed AS3 on a IA64 (HP Rx4640 system). But > when I attempt to compile the kernel and do the modules the module > compile fails everytime. So far I have removed all modules I do not > need from the kernel and I still keep failing. Attached is a copy of > the module build. What makes you think it failed? I don't see any indications of failure in what you attached. Quick notes on 2.4 kernel builds: 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config file and do a "make mrproper" first. 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, then make your changes. Save the changes. 3. "make dep" 4. "make clean" 5. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling modules) 6. "make modules" To install: 7. "make modules_install" 8. "make install" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > make -r -f tmp_include_depends all > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' > make -C arch/ia64/tools CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' > make -C arch/ia64/kernel CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/kernel' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/kernel' > make -C arch/ia64/mm CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/mm' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/mm' > make -C arch/ia64/lib CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/lib' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/lib' > make -C arch/ia64/ia32 CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/ia32' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/ia32' > make -C arch/ia64/hp CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/hp' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/hp' > make -C arch/ia64/dig CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/dig' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/dig' > make -C kernel CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel' > make -C drivers CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers' > make -C acpi modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/acpi' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/acpi' > make -C addon modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/addon' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/addon' > make -C block modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/block' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/block' > make -C cdrom modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/cdrom' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/cdrom' > make -C char modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char' > make -C joystick modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char/joystick' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char/joystick' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char' > make -C hotplug modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/hotplug' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/hotplug' > make -C ide modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide' > make -C arm modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/arm' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/arm' > make -C legacy modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/legacy' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/legacy' > make -C pci modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/pci' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/pci' > make -C ppc modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/ppc' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/ppc' > make -C raid modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/raid' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/raid' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide' > make -C input modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/input' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/input' > make -C media modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media' > make -C radio modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/radio' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/radio' > make -C video modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/video' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/video' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media' > make -C misc modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/misc' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/misc' > make -C net modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net' > make -C fc modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net/fc' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net/fc' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net' > make -C parport modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/parport' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/parport' > make -C scsi modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/scsi' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/scsi' > make -C sound modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/sound' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/sound' > make -C video modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/video' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/video' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers' > make -C mm CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/mm' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/mm' > make -C fs CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs' > make -C nls modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs/nls' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs/nls' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs' > make -C net CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net' > make -C core modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/core' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/core' > make -C ipv4 modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4' > make -C ipv4/netfilter modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4/netfilter' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4/netfilter' > make -C key modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/key' > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing > -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 > -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers > --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h -nostdinc > -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=af_key -c -o af_key.o af_key.c > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/key' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net' > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > 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Name: modules.txt URL: From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 18:28:47 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:28:47 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CAC9@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> I did the make mrproper and put my .config file in place and now my make dep is failing: [root at phlhup05 linux-2.4]# make dep make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/boot' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `dep'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/boot' rm -f .depend .hdepend make _sfdep_arch/ia64/tools _sfdep_arch/ia64/kernel _sfdep_arch/ia64/mm _sfdep_arch/ia64/lib _sfdep_arch/ia64/ia32 _sfdep_arch/ia64/hp _sfdep_arch/ia64/dig _sfdep_kernel _sfdep_drivers _sfdep_mm _sfdep_fs _sfdep_net _sfdep_ipc _sfdep_lib _sfdep_crypto _sfdep_arch/ia64/oprofile _FASTDEP_ALL_SUB_DIRS="arch/ia64/tools arch/ia64/kernel arch/ia64/mm arch/ia64/lib arch/ia64/ia32 arch/ia64/hp arch/ia64/dig kernel drivers mm fs net ipc lib crypto arch/ia64/oprofile" make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' make -C arch/ia64/tools fastdep make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' gcc -g -O2 -Wall -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -DKBUILD_BASENAME= print_offsets.c -o print_offsets In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/config.h:4, from print_offsets.c:15: /usr/include/linux/autoconf.h:1:2: #error Invalid kernel header included in userspace In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/aio.h:5, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/net.h:88, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/fs.h:15, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/binfmts.h:4, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/sched.h:10, from print_offsets.c:17: /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/kiovec.h:37:28: asm/kmap_types.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/aio.h:5, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/net.h:88, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/fs.h:15, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/capability.h:17, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/binfmts.h:4, from /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/sched.h:10, from print_offsets.c:17: /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/kiovec.h:78: field `type' has incomplete type /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/kiovec.h:79: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make[2]: *** [print_offsets] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' make[1]: *** [_sfdep_arch/ia64/tools] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 [root at phlhup05 linux-2.4]# Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:18 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem Smith, Albert wrote: > Hello All, > > I have successfully installed AS3 on a IA64 (HP Rx4640 system). But > when I attempt to compile the kernel and do the modules the module > compile fails everytime. So far I have removed all modules I do not > need from the kernel and I still keep failing. Attached is a copy of > the module build. What makes you think it failed? I don't see any indications of failure in what you attached. Quick notes on 2.4 kernel builds: 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config file and do a "make mrproper" first. 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, then make your changes. Save the changes. 3. "make dep" 4. "make clean" 5. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling modules) 6. "make modules" To install: 7. "make modules_install" 8. "make install" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > make -r -f tmp_include_depends all > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL' > make -C arch/ia64/tools CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/tools' > make -C arch/ia64/kernel CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/kernel' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/kernel' > make -C arch/ia64/mm CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/mm' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/mm' > make -C arch/ia64/lib CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/lib' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/lib' > make -C arch/ia64/ia32 CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/ia32' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/ia32' > make -C arch/ia64/hp CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/hp' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/hp' > make -C arch/ia64/dig CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/dig' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/arch/ia64/dig' > make -C kernel CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel' > make -C drivers CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers' > make -C acpi modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/acpi' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/acpi' > make -C addon modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/addon' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/addon' > make -C block modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/block' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/block' > make -C cdrom modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/cdrom' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/cdrom' > make -C char modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char' > make -C joystick modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char/joystick' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char/joystick' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/char' > make -C hotplug modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/hotplug' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/hotplug' > make -C ide modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide' > make -C arm modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/arm' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/arm' > make -C legacy modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/legacy' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/legacy' > make -C pci modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/pci' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/pci' > make -C ppc modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/ppc' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/ppc' > make -C raid modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/raid' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide/raid' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/ide' > make -C input modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/input' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/input' > make -C media modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media' > make -C radio modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/radio' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/radio' > make -C video modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/video' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media/video' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/media' > make -C misc modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/misc' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/misc' > make -C net modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net' > make -C fc modules > make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net/fc' > make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net/fc' > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/net' > make -C parport modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/parport' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/parport' > make -C scsi modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/scsi' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/scsi' > make -C sound modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/sound' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/sound' > make -C video modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/video' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers/video' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/drivers' > make -C mm CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/mm' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/mm' > make -C fs CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs' > make -C nls modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs/nls' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs/nls' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/fs' > make -C net CFLAGS="-D__KERNEL__ > -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wno-unused > -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 > -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers --param max-inline-insns=5000 > -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h" > MAKING_MODULES=1 modules > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net' > make -C core modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/core' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/core' > make -C ipv4 modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4' > make -C ipv4/netfilter modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4/netfilter' > make[2]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/ipv4/netfilter' > make -C key modules > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/key' > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing > -fno-common -Wno-unused -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -ffixed-r13 > -mfixed-range=f10-f15,f32-f127 -falign-functions=32 -frename-registers > --param max-inline-insns=5000 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/include/linux/modversions.h -nostdinc > -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=af_key -c -o af_key.o af_key.c > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net/key' > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/net' > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Grabel's Law: 2 is not equal to 3--not even for large values of 2. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 18:46:04 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:46:04 -0800 Subject: IA64 Install Problem In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CAC9@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> References: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CAC9@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <420BABEC.6010906@vitalstream.com> Smith, Albert wrote: > I did the make mrproper and put my .config file in place and now my make > dep is failing: When you put your old .config file back, did you "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig"? If not, then you must do "make oldconfig" before you do the "make dep". Ideally, you'd go to the source directory and do "make mrproper" first. Then you'd "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" and import the config file that best describes your hardware. If you installed the binary kernel RPM, the config file for the kernel currently running is in /boot as "/boot/config-`uname -r`". If you wish to use a different config as a baseline, the standard ones Red Hat uses for the various kernel versions are in the "configs" directory of the kernel source code. When you "save configuration" from the "make [menu|x]config" command, the system writes a new ".config" AND does some preliminary work (such as setting up symlinks for the assembly headers and such). This is the same as "make oldconfig" using an old .config file. So, if you're going to bypass the "make [menu|x]config" bit, you must add a new step. Here's the new sequence (step 3 is the new one): 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config file and do a "make mrproper" first. 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, then make your changes. Save the changes. 3. "make oldconfig" if you did NOT do a "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" after copying over your old .config. If you did, skip this step. 4. "make dep" 5. "make clean" 6. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling modules) 7. "make modules" To install: 8. "make modules_install" 9. "make install" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 18:55:42 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:55:42 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CADA@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Make bzImage failed with: no rule to make bzImage Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:46 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem Smith, Albert wrote: > I did the make mrproper and put my .config file in place and now my > make dep is failing: When you put your old .config file back, did you "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig"? If not, then you must do "make oldconfig" before you do the "make dep". Ideally, you'd go to the source directory and do "make mrproper" first. Then you'd "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" and import the config file that best describes your hardware. If you installed the binary kernel RPM, the config file for the kernel currently running is in /boot as "/boot/config-`uname -r`". If you wish to use a different config as a baseline, the standard ones Red Hat uses for the various kernel versions are in the "configs" directory of the kernel source code. When you "save configuration" from the "make [menu|x]config" command, the system writes a new ".config" AND does some preliminary work (such as setting up symlinks for the assembly headers and such). This is the same as "make oldconfig" using an old .config file. So, if you're going to bypass the "make [menu|x]config" bit, you must add a new step. Here's the new sequence (step 3 is the new one): 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config file and do a "make mrproper" first. 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, then make your changes. Save the changes. 3. "make oldconfig" if you did NOT do a "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" after copying over your old .config. If you did, skip this step. 4. "make dep" 5. "make clean" 6. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling modules) 7. "make modules" To install: 8. "make modules_install" 9. "make install" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr Thu Feb 10 20:51:41 2005 From: Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr (Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:51:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0502100915d56eeb6@mail.gmail.com> References: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <5bdc1c8b0502100915d56eeb6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64605.147.171.149.175.1108068701.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> Hi, thanks for your answer. Here are the requested infos. Wish it could help ! > 1) Let's look at the state of Alsa and find out what's going on: > > cat /proc/asound/version > cat /proc/asound/cards None of these file are on the system. The rep /proc/asound does not exist. Note that it DOES exist on the machine that was not yet updated - on which audio works fine. Eheh, seems we are on our way ;=) > 2) What modules did you want loaded? % cat /etc/modprobe.conf This file does not exist either. Note that it does NOT exist on the machine that was not yet updated - on which audio works fine. I have a module.conf instead - dunno if it corresponds in any way... Here it is : % ls /etc/module.conf alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix alias eth0 e1000 pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd # Turn off mcdx modules alias block-major-20 off alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss post-install snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : alias char-major-195 nvidia > 3) What modules are loaded? % lsmod Module Size Used by Tainted: P soundcore 6436 0 (autoclean) agpgart 57752 3 (autoclean) nvidia 2127808 16 (autoclean) usbserial 23580 0 (autoclean) (unused) parport_pc 18756 1 (autoclean) lp 8964 0 (autoclean) parport 36832 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] autofs4 15928 0 (autoclean) (unused) e1000 77116 1 floppy 56656 0 (autoclean) sg 36204 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 17784 0 (autoclean) microcode 5688 0 (autoclean) ide-scsi 12336 0 ide-cd 33920 0 cdrom 32416 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] loop 11960 0 (autoclean) lvm-mod 64512 0 keybdev 2944 0 (unused) mousedev 5524 2 hid 22116 0 (unused) input 5888 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] ehci-hcd 20008 0 (unused) usb-uhci 25740 0 (unused) usbcore 77376 1 [usbserial hid ehci-hcd usb-uhci] ext3 85704 2 jbd 50572 2 [ext3] ata_piix 5032 0 (unused) libata 38932 0 [ata_piix] sd_mod 13712 0 (unused) scsi_mod 106408 5 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi ata_piix libata sd_mod] > 4) What sound hardware is really in your system? % lspci -vv (only the audio controler) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 0156 Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- >From there we'll have a better idea what step to take next Wish so ;=) Nicolas ------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:49:14 +0100 (CET), Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I installed recently various machines with red hat enterprise 3. >> I then upgraded all the packages by using upd2date in red hat network. >> >> Since then, the audio facilities are out of order (they were OK before). >> >> The redhat-config-soundcard tool runs correctly, still displays the >> audio >> driver info, but the 'test sound' button no more plays anything. >> >> The various Volume Control tools do not run, nore the audio players. >> >> Executing more /var/log/messages results in >> (extract) >> >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >> >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >> >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >> >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >> >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >> >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >> >> The machines are DELL precision 360, with Analog Device internal >> AD1980-AC97 sound cards. >> I tried to reinstall drivers provided by DELL (and even ASUS) for the >> card. No success. >> >> What should I do ? >> > > 1) Let's look at the state of Alsa and find out what's going on: > > cat /proc/asound/version > cat /proc/asound/cards > > 2) What modules did you want loaded? > > cat /etc/modprobe.conf > > 3) What modules are loaded? > > lsmod > > 4) What sound hardware is really in your system? > > lspci -vv > > AND TRIM PLEASE!!! > >>From there we'll have a better idea what step to take next > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 19:10:52 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:10:52 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CAE8@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Believe it or not I read a book... On an IA64 (HP Integrity system) apparently make bzImage was replaced with make compressed Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Smith, Albert Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:56 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: RE: IA64 Install Problem Make bzImage failed with: no rule to make bzImage Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:46 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem Smith, Albert wrote: > I did the make mrproper and put my .config file in place and now my > make dep is failing: When you put your old .config file back, did you "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig"? If not, then you must do "make oldconfig" before you do the "make dep". Ideally, you'd go to the source directory and do "make mrproper" first. Then you'd "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" and import the config file that best describes your hardware. If you installed the binary kernel RPM, the config file for the kernel currently running is in /boot as "/boot/config-`uname -r`". If you wish to use a different config as a baseline, the standard ones Red Hat uses for the various kernel versions are in the "configs" directory of the kernel source code. When you "save configuration" from the "make [menu|x]config" command, the system writes a new ".config" AND does some preliminary work (such as setting up symlinks for the assembly headers and such). This is the same as "make oldconfig" using an old .config file. So, if you're going to bypass the "make [menu|x]config" bit, you must add a new step. Here's the new sequence (step 3 is the new one): 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config file and do a "make mrproper" first. 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, then make your changes. Save the changes. 3. "make oldconfig" if you did NOT do a "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" after copying over your old .config. If you did, skip this step. 4. "make dep" 5. "make clean" 6. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling modules) 7. "make modules" To install: 8. "make modules_install" 9. "make install" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr Thu Feb 10 20:55:09 2005 From: Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr (Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:55:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH In-Reply-To: <64605.147.171.149.175.1108068701.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> References: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <5bdc1c8b0502100915d56eeb6@mail.gmail.com> <64605.147.171.149.175.1108068701.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> Message-ID: <64753.147.171.149.175.1108068909.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> Uh, I forgot... Executing more /var/log/messages results in (extract) : >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 That's all for now ! Nicolas > Hi, > thanks for your answer. > > Here are the requested infos. Wish it could help ! > >> 1) Let's look at the state of Alsa and find out what's going on: >> >> cat /proc/asound/version >> cat /proc/asound/cards > None of these file are on the system. > The rep /proc/asound does not exist. > > Note that it DOES exist on the machine that was not yet updated - on which > audio works fine. > Eheh, seems we are on our way ;=) > > > >> 2) What modules did you want loaded? > % cat /etc/modprobe.conf > This file does not exist either. > Note that it does NOT exist on the machine that was not yet updated - on > which audio works fine. > I have a module.conf instead - dunno if it corresponds in any way... Here > it is : > > % ls /etc/module.conf > alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix > alias eth0 e1000 > pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null > 2>&1 || : > alias usb-controller usb-uhci > alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd > # Turn off mcdx modules > alias block-major-20 off > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias char-major-116 snd > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > alias char-major-14 soundcore > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > post-install snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > pre-remove snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > alias char-major-195 nvidia > > > >> 3) What modules are loaded? > % lsmod > Module Size Used by Tainted: P > soundcore 6436 0 (autoclean) > agpgart 57752 3 (autoclean) > nvidia 2127808 16 (autoclean) > usbserial 23580 0 (autoclean) (unused) > parport_pc 18756 1 (autoclean) > lp 8964 0 (autoclean) > parport 36832 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] > autofs4 15928 0 (autoclean) (unused) > e1000 77116 1 > floppy 56656 0 (autoclean) > sg 36204 0 (autoclean) > sr_mod 17784 0 (autoclean) > microcode 5688 0 (autoclean) > ide-scsi 12336 0 > ide-cd 33920 0 > cdrom 32416 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] > loop 11960 0 (autoclean) > lvm-mod 64512 0 > keybdev 2944 0 (unused) > mousedev 5524 2 > hid 22116 0 (unused) > input 5888 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] > ehci-hcd 20008 0 (unused) > usb-uhci 25740 0 (unused) > usbcore 77376 1 [usbserial hid ehci-hcd usb-uhci] > ext3 85704 2 > jbd 50572 2 [ext3] > ata_piix 5032 0 (unused) > libata 38932 0 [ata_piix] > sd_mod 13712 0 (unused) > scsi_mod 106408 5 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi ata_piix libata > sd_mod] > > > >> 4) What sound hardware is really in your system? > > % lspci -vv > (only the audio controler) > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) > AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) > Subsystem: Dell: Unknown device 0156 > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- > Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- > SERR- Latency: 0 > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 10 > Region 0: I/O ports at ee00 [size=256] > Region 1: I/O ports at edc0 [size=64] > Region 2: Memory at febffa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] > Region 3: Memory at febff900 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] > Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 > Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA > PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) > Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- > > That's stange... According to Dell, it should be an Analog Device > AD1980-AC97 ... > > >>>From there we'll have a better idea what step to take next > Wish so ;=) > > > Nicolas > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:49:14 +0100 (CET), Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I installed recently various machines with red hat enterprise 3. >>> I then upgraded all the packages by using upd2date in red hat network. >>> >>> Since then, the audio facilities are out of order (they were OK >>> before). >>> >>> The redhat-config-soundcard tool runs correctly, still displays the >>> audio >>> driver info, but the 'test sound' button no more plays anything. >>> >>> The various Volume Control tools do not run, nore the audio players. >>> >>> Executing more /var/log/messages results in >>> (extract) >>> >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >>> >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >>> >modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >>> >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >>> >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 >>> >mmodprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 >>> >>> The machines are DELL precision 360, with Analog Device internal >>> AD1980-AC97 sound cards. >>> I tried to reinstall drivers provided by DELL (and even ASUS) for the >>> card. No success. >>> >>> What should I do ? >>> >> >> 1) Let's look at the state of Alsa and find out what's going on: >> >> cat /proc/asound/version >> cat /proc/asound/cards >> >> 2) What modules did you want loaded? >> >> cat /etc/modprobe.conf >> >> 3) What modules are loaded? >> >> lsmod >> >> 4) What sound hardware is really in your system? >> >> lspci -vv >> >> AND TRIM PLEASE!!! >> >>>From there we'll have a better idea what step to take next >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 19:31:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:31:31 -0800 Subject: IA64 Install Problem In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CAE8@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> References: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CAE8@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <420BB693.3080804@vitalstream.com> Smith, Albert wrote: > Believe it or not I read a book... > > On an IA64 (HP Integrity system) apparently make bzImage was replaced > with make compressed Ah. Hmmmm. I've never used an IA64 so I'm not surprised I didn't know that. Sorry 'bout that, chief! Did the rest work correctly? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - He who laughs last thinks slowest. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 19:32:54 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:32:54 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB03@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Yup it's chugging away... Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:32 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem Smith, Albert wrote: > Believe it or not I read a book... > > On an IA64 (HP Integrity system) apparently make bzImage was replaced > with make compressed Ah. Hmmmm. I've never used an IA64 so I'm not surprised I didn't know that. Sorry 'bout that, chief! Did the rest work correctly? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - He who laughs last thinks slowest. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 19:41:24 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:41:24 -0800 Subject: IA64 Install Problem In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB03@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> References: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB03@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <420BB8E4.6060309@vitalstream.com> Smith, Albert wrote: >>>Believe it or not I read a book... >>> >>>On an IA64 (HP Integrity system) apparently make bzImage was replaced >>>with make compressed >> >> >> Ah. Hmmmm. I've never used an IA64 so I'm not surprised I didn't know >> that. Sorry 'bout that, chief! Did the rest work correctly? > > Yup it's chugging away... Good. Adding "make compressed" to my list of "gee, that's odd!" stuff. Oh! Wait! I remember why now...the IA64 booter doesn't grok gzipped stuff, only good old Lempel-Ziv "compressed" (filename.Z) format. (slapping head) DOH! :-p By the way, Albert, we prefer bottom-posting here on the list (add your comments AFTER what you're commenting on). Makes following the logic of the message thread easier. This message has the thread reformatted to reflect bottom posting. I think you can see it's easier to follow the flow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - He who laughs last thinks slowest. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 19:55:11 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:55:11 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB11@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:41 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem Smith, Albert wrote: >>>Believe it or not I read a book... >>> >>>On an IA64 (HP Integrity system) apparently make bzImage was replaced >>>with make compressed >> >> >> Ah. Hmmmm. I've never used an IA64 so I'm not surprised I didn't >> know that. Sorry 'bout that, chief! Did the rest work correctly? > > Yup it's chugging away... Good. Adding "make compressed" to my list of "gee, that's odd!" stuff. Oh! Wait! I remember why now...the IA64 booter doesn't grok gzipped stuff, only good old Lempel-Ziv "compressed" (filename.Z) format. (slapping head) DOH! :-p By the way, Albert, we prefer bottom-posting here on the list (add your comments AFTER what you're commenting on). Makes following the logic of the message thread easier. This message has the thread reformatted to reflect bottom posting. I think you can see it's easier to follow the flow. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - He who laughs last thinks slowest. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe Sorry about that... Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 20:05:41 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:05:41 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB1E@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:46 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem Smith, Albert wrote: > I did the make mrproper and put my .config file in place and now my > make dep is failing: When you put your old .config file back, did you "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig"? If not, then you must do "make oldconfig" before you do the "make dep". Ideally, you'd go to the source directory and do "make mrproper" first. Then you'd "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" and import the config file that best describes your hardware. If you installed the binary kernel RPM, the config file for the kernel currently running is in /boot as "/boot/config-`uname -r`". If you wish to use a different config as a baseline, the standard ones Red Hat uses for the various kernel versions are in the "configs" directory of the kernel source code. When you "save configuration" from the "make [menu|x]config" command, the system writes a new ".config" AND does some preliminary work (such as setting up symlinks for the assembly headers and such). This is the same as "make oldconfig" using an old .config file. So, if you're going to bypass the "make [menu|x]config" bit, you must add a new step. Here's the new sequence (step 3 is the new one): 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config file and do a "make mrproper" first. 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, then make your changes. Save the changes. 3. "make oldconfig" if you did NOT do a "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" after copying over your old .config. If you did, skip this step. 4. "make dep" 5. "make clean" 6. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling modules) 7. "make modules" To install: 8. "make modules_install" 9. "make install" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe The only problem I have now is "make install" does not work... Argh.. I am starting to think IA64 was a bad idea... From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 20:06:34 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:06:34 -0800 Subject: IA64 Install Problem In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB11@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> References: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB11@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <420BBECA.4050405@vitalstream.com> Smith, Albert wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Stevens > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:41 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem > > Smith, Albert wrote: > >>>>Believe it or not I read a book... >>>> >>>>On an IA64 (HP Integrity system) apparently make bzImage was replaced > > >>>>with make compressed >>> >>> >>>Ah. Hmmmm. I've never used an IA64 so I'm not surprised I didn't >>>know that. Sorry 'bout that, chief! Did the rest work correctly? >> >>Yup it's chugging away... > > > Good. Adding "make compressed" to my list of "gee, that's odd!" stuff. > Oh! Wait! I remember why now...the IA64 booter doesn't grok gzipped > stuff, only good old Lempel-Ziv "compressed" (filename.Z) format. > > (slapping head) DOH! :-p > > By the way, Albert, we prefer bottom-posting here on the list (add your > comments AFTER what you're commenting on). Makes following the logic of > the message thread easier. This message has the thread reformatted to > reflect bottom posting. I think you can see it's easier to follow the > flow. > Sorry about that... 'Sok. Just a gentle nudge in the ribs. ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 20:14:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:14:05 -0800 Subject: IA64 Install Problem In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB1E@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> References: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB1E@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <420BC08D.6060506@vitalstream.com> Smith, Albert wrote: > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Stevens > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:46 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem > > Smith, Albert wrote: > >>I did the make mrproper and put my .config file in place and now my >>make dep is failing: > > > When you put your old .config file back, did you "make menuconfig" or > "make xconfig"? If not, then you must do "make oldconfig" before you do > the "make dep". > > Ideally, you'd go to the source directory and do "make mrproper" first. > Then you'd "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" and import the config > file that best describes your hardware. If you installed the binary > kernel RPM, the config file for the kernel currently running is in /boot > as "/boot/config-`uname -r`". If you wish to use a different config as > a baseline, the standard ones Red Hat uses for the various kernel > versions are in the "configs" directory of the kernel source code. > > When you "save configuration" from the "make [menu|x]config" command, > the system writes a new ".config" AND does some preliminary work (such > as setting up symlinks for the assembly headers and such). This is the > same as "make oldconfig" using an old .config file. > > So, if you're going to bypass the "make [menu|x]config" bit, you must > add a new step. Here's the new sequence (step 3 is the new one): > > 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of the .config > file and do a "make mrproper" first. > > 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, > then make your changes. Save the changes. > > 3. "make oldconfig" if you did NOT do a "make menuconfig" or "make > xconfig" after copying over your old .config. If you did, skip > this > step. > > 4. "make dep" > > 5. "make clean" > > 6. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling > modules) > > 7. "make modules" > > To install: > > 8. "make modules_install" > > 9. "make install" > The only problem I have now is "make install" does not work... > > Argh.. I am starting to think IA64 was a bad idea... You have to do a "make modules_install" first, then the "make install". If "make install" still fails, you can manually do it. Essentially, you'll copy the "arch/ia64/boot/vmlinuz" file to /boot and rename it as /boot/vmlinuz-kernelversion" (replace "kernelversion" with the version number of the NEW kernel. If you need an initrd, you need to cd to /boot and do a make -f -v initrd-kernelversion.img kernelversion Then edit your boot configuration file and let it know about the new kernel. That's essentially what happens with "make install". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Thu Feb 10 20:17:32 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:17:32 -0500 Subject: IA64 Install Problem Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC70CB2A@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Rick Stevens > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:14 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem > > Smith, Albert wrote: > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > > Stevens > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:46 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: IA64 Install Problem > > > > Smith, Albert wrote: > > > >>I did the make mrproper and put my .config file in place and now my > >>make dep is failing: > > > > > > When you put your old .config file back, did you "make > menuconfig" or > > "make xconfig"? If not, then you must do "make oldconfig" > before you > > do the "make dep". > > > > Ideally, you'd go to the source directory and do "make > mrproper" first. > > Then you'd "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" and import > the config > > file that best describes your hardware. If you installed > the binary > > kernel RPM, the config file for the kernel currently running is in > > /boot as "/boot/config-`uname -r`". If you wish to use a different > > config as a baseline, the standard ones Red Hat uses for > the various > > kernel versions are in the "configs" directory of the > kernel source code. > > > > When you "save configuration" from the "make > [menu|x]config" command, > > the system writes a new ".config" AND does some preliminary > work (such > > as setting up symlinks for the assembly headers and such). This is > > the same as "make oldconfig" using an old .config file. > > > > So, if you're going to bypass the "make [menu|x]config" > bit, you must > > add a new step. Here's the new sequence (step 3 is the new one): > > > > 1. Before buggering your configuration, make a copy of > the .config > > file and do a "make mrproper" first. > > > > 2. Modify your config by importing the copy of the .config file, > > then make your changes. Save the changes. > > > > 3. "make oldconfig" if you did NOT do a "make > menuconfig" or "make > > xconfig" after copying over your old .config. If you > did, skip > > this > > step. > > > > 4. "make dep" > > > > 5. "make clean" > > > > 6. "make bzImage" (MUST be done even if you're just recompiling > > modules) > > > > 7. "make modules" > > > > To install: > > > > 8. "make modules_install" > > > > 9. "make install" > > > The only problem I have now is "make install" does not work... > > > > Argh.. I am starting to think IA64 was a bad idea... > > You have to do a "make modules_install" first, then the "make > install". > > If "make install" still fails, you can manually do it. > Essentially, you'll copy the "arch/ia64/boot/vmlinuz" file to > /boot and rename it as /boot/vmlinuz-kernelversion" (replace > "kernelversion" with the version number of the NEW kernel. > If you need an initrd, you need to cd to /boot and do a > > make -f -v initrd-kernelversion.img kernelversion > > Then edit your boot configuration file and let it know about > the new kernel. That's essentially what happens with "make install". > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > I know it's just a pain in the rear... Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 From evdhn at advalvas.be Thu Feb 10 22:41:06 2005 From: evdhn at advalvas.be (evdhn at advalvas.be) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:41:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <19777.213.119.143.241.1108075266.squirrel@213.119.143.241> >>>>In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory >>>> exported >>>>by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? >>>>I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move the >>>>cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been >>>>stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. >>> >>>Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client and >>>server. That's the most common problem. >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Thanks for your answer Rick, but apparently I explained poorly. >> >> This is a two-member cluster with hostnames arneb and nihal and services >> lepusbb and lepustl. >> When service lepusbb runs on arneb, I cannot nfs mount its device on >> arneb >> using the service name. I.e. >> # mount -t nfs lepusbb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >> does not work on arneb, but it does work on nihal. >> Similarly, I can mount lepustl:/usr/local/lepus-tl on arneb but not on >> nihal. >> >> I meanwhile found that >> # mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >> does work, so I'm currently using that as a workaround, but obviously, >> when a failover would occur while the devices are locally mounted, my >> scripts wil be in trouble. >> >> And yes, portmapper and nfslock are running: >> # ps auxw | egrep -e lock -e portm | grep -v grep >> rpc 3109 0.0 0.0 1672 608 ? S 10:36 0:00 portmap >> root 3314 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:36 0:00 [lockd] >> root 3453 0.0 0.0 3064 3064 ? S> /usr/sbin/clulockd > > First, are you sure the device is being exported by arneb and that arneb > is permitted to mount it? A "showmount -e arneb" will show what's being > exported and who's allowed to look at it. > > I'm not familiar with RH's HA (high availability) structure so I can't > speak to the details, but generally it's something along those lines. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It must be a RH HA thing then. # showmount -e arneb Export list for arneb: /usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal /usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba Even when I specify that all nodes ("*") should have access, it still won't work. :-( emma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plaats je zoekertjes GRATIS op AdValvas Placez votre petite annonce GRATUITEMENT sur AdValvas http://www.advalvas.be From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 10 22:38:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:38:37 -0800 Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <19777.213.119.143.241.1108075266.squirrel@213.119.143.241> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> <19777.213.119.143.241.1108075266.squirrel@213.119.143.241> Message-ID: <420BE26D.7070700@vitalstream.com> evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >>>>>In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory >>>>>exported >>>>>by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? >>>>>I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move the >>>>>cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been >>>>>stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. >>>> >>>>Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client and >>>>server. That's the most common problem. >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>Thanks for your answer Rick, but apparently I explained poorly. >>> >>>This is a two-member cluster with hostnames arneb and nihal and services >>>lepusbb and lepustl. >>>When service lepusbb runs on arneb, I cannot nfs mount its device on >>>arneb >>>using the service name. I.e. >>># mount -t nfs lepusbb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>does not work on arneb, but it does work on nihal. >>>Similarly, I can mount lepustl:/usr/local/lepus-tl on arneb but not on >>>nihal. >>> >>>I meanwhile found that >>># mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>does work, so I'm currently using that as a workaround, but obviously, >>>when a failover would occur while the devices are locally mounted, my >>>scripts wil be in trouble. >>> >>>And yes, portmapper and nfslock are running: >>># ps auxw | egrep -e lock -e portm | grep -v grep >>>rpc 3109 0.0 0.0 1672 608 ? S 10:36 0:00 portmap >>>root 3314 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:36 0:00 [lockd] >>>root 3453 0.0 0.0 3064 3064 ? S>>/usr/sbin/clulockd >> >>First, are you sure the device is being exported by arneb and that arneb >>is permitted to mount it? A "showmount -e arneb" will show what's being >>exported and who's allowed to look at it. >> >>I'm not familiar with RH's HA (high availability) structure so I can't >>speak to the details, but generally it's something along those lines. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > It must be a RH HA thing then. > > # showmount -e arneb > Export list for arneb: > /usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal > /usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > > Even when I specify that all nodes ("*") should have access, it still > won't work. :-( I'm not certain what HA means by "service", but generally, NFS mounts specify the remote end as "nodename:/export", not as "service:/export". Try: mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb on nihal and see if that works. It should. Also make sure that the server (arneb) is running nfsd. The existance of an exports file should trigger it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From evdhn at advalvas.be Fri Feb 11 00:07:08 2005 From: evdhn at advalvas.be (evdhn at advalvas.be) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:07:08 +0100 (CET) Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <420BE26D.7070700@vitalstream.com> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> <19777.213.119.143.241.1108075266.squirrel@213.119.143.241> <420BE26D.7070700@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <16051.213.119.143.241.1108080428.squirrel@213.119.143.241> > evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >>>>>>In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory >>>>>>exported >>>>>>by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? >>>>>>I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move >>>>>> the >>>>>>cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been >>>>>>stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. >>>>> >>>>>Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client >>>>> and >>>>>server. That's the most common problem. >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>Thanks for your answer Rick, but apparently I explained poorly. >>>> >>>>This is a two-member cluster with hostnames arneb and nihal and >>>> services >>>>lepusbb and lepustl. >>>>When service lepusbb runs on arneb, I cannot nfs mount its device on >>>>arneb >>>>using the service name. I.e. >>>># mount -t nfs lepusbb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>>does not work on arneb, but it does work on nihal. >>>>Similarly, I can mount lepustl:/usr/local/lepus-tl on arneb but not on >>>>nihal. >>>> >>>>I meanwhile found that >>>># mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>>does work, so I'm currently using that as a workaround, but obviously, >>>>when a failover would occur while the devices are locally mounted, my >>>>scripts wil be in trouble. >>>> >>>>And yes, portmapper and nfslock are running: >>>># ps auxw | egrep -e lock -e portm | grep -v grep >>>>rpc 3109 0.0 0.0 1672 608 ? S 10:36 0:00 portmap >>>>root 3314 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:36 0:00 [lockd] >>>>root 3453 0.0 0.0 3064 3064 ? S>>>/usr/sbin/clulockd >>> >>>First, are you sure the device is being exported by arneb and that arneb >>>is permitted to mount it? A "showmount -e arneb" will show what's being >>>exported and who's allowed to look at it. >>> >>>I'm not familiar with RH's HA (high availability) structure so I can't >>>speak to the details, but generally it's something along those lines. >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> It must be a RH HA thing then. >> >> # showmount -e arneb >> Export list for arneb: >> /usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal >> /usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >> /usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >> /usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >> /usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >> >> Even when I specify that all nodes ("*") should have access, it still >> won't work. :-( > > I'm not certain what HA means by "service", but generally, NFS mounts > specify the remote end as "nodename:/export", not as "service:/export". > Try: > > mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb > > on nihal and see if that works. It should. Also make sure that the > server (arneb) is running nfsd. The existance of an exports file should > trigger it. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A service (= linux, Tru64 terminology, = resource group on aix, = packages on HP UNIX if I remember correctly) roughly is a collection of a virtual ip-address (alias), disk devices, and application processes, that can be accessed through the virtual ip-address. In my current situation, arneb and nihal are hostnames, lepusbb is an alias (normally on eth0:1 when the service runs on arneb). RH HA is explained in: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/pdf/rh-cs-en.pdf Kind regards, emma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plaats je zoekertjes GRATIS op AdValvas Placez votre petite annonce GRATUITEMENT sur AdValvas http://www.advalvas.be From sskumarnd at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 23:55:58 2005 From: sskumarnd at gmail.com (Senthil Kumar Chakaravel) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:55:58 -1000 Subject: 10g emctl error - Integration Class not found Message-ID: Dear Friends, Sorry may not be the right forum....but this issue is something to do with Linux OS, so I am seeking some help here. Linux ES3.0 - Oracle 10g I could not get my Enterprise manager DB console working properly. I get my initial screen by typing the URL htt://hostname:5500/em I could login to this. Then after I try to click the 'Maintenance link', it asked for usr name and pwd again. Upon given them and try to login I got a error - SO Exception was generated I checked the log at /opt/oracle/product/10.1.0/db_1/app01/sysman/log it has the following information 2005-02-10 16:35:05,509 [EMUI_16_35_05_/console/database/instance/sitemap] ERROR perf.sitemap initializeGeneral.327 - Failed to initialize object: ORA-20206: ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.EMD_DATABASE", line 1144 ORA-01403: no data found ORA-06512: at line 1 2005-02-10 16:35:11,310 [EMUI_16_35_11_/console/database/instance/sitemap] ERROR eml.creds loadCreds.550 - CredsBean.loadCreds(): Error loading credentials: ORA-20206: ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.MGMT_TARGET", line 356 ORA-01403: no data found ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.MGMT_CREDENTIAL", line 1668 ORA-06512: at line 1 2005-02-10 16:35:48,385 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ias.ias.IASIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,628 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.eml.target.slb.common.SLBIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,759 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.eml.ssl.intg.SSLIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,844 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.tip.oem.central.domain.ProcessConnectDomainIntg 2005-02-10 16:35:48,847 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.tip.oem.central.instance.ProcessConnectInstanceIntg 2005-02-10 16:35:48,852 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.webdb.admin.em.PortalIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,855 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.webdb.admin.em.SSOIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,858 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.reports.em.RepIntg 2005-02-10 16:35:48,861 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsEmailIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,864 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsOidIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,867 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsOvfIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,871 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsWebconfIntegration 2005-02-10 16:35:48,874 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsWirelessIntg 2005-02-10 16:35:48,877 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsCalGrpIntegration So I re-installed the necessary Enterprise DB console, thinking that it will install the necessary jar files, but the same problem exists. Can anybody share their ideas with me? Thanks Kumar From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 11 00:32:20 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:32:20 -0800 Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <16051.213.119.143.241.1108080428.squirrel@213.119.143.241> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> <19777.213.119.143.241.1108075266.squirrel@213.119.143.241> <420BE26D.7070700@vitalstream.com> <16051.213.119.143.241.1108080428.squirrel@213.119.143.241> Message-ID: <420BFD14.9060000@vitalstream.com> evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >>evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >> >>>>>>>In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory >>>>>>>exported >>>>>>>by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? >>>>>>>I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been >>>>>>>stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>>Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client >>>>>>and >>>>>>server. That's the most common problem. >>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for your answer Rick, but apparently I explained poorly. >>>>> >>>>>This is a two-member cluster with hostnames arneb and nihal and >>>>>services >>>>>lepusbb and lepustl. >>>>>When service lepusbb runs on arneb, I cannot nfs mount its device on >>>>>arneb >>>>>using the service name. I.e. >>>>># mount -t nfs lepusbb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>>>does not work on arneb, but it does work on nihal. >>>>>Similarly, I can mount lepustl:/usr/local/lepus-tl on arneb but not on >>>>>nihal. >>>>> >>>>>I meanwhile found that >>>>># mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>>>does work, so I'm currently using that as a workaround, but obviously, >>>>>when a failover would occur while the devices are locally mounted, my >>>>>scripts wil be in trouble. >>>>> >>>>>And yes, portmapper and nfslock are running: >>>>># ps auxw | egrep -e lock -e portm | grep -v grep >>>>>rpc 3109 0.0 0.0 1672 608 ? S 10:36 0:00 portmap >>>>>root 3314 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:36 0:00 [lockd] >>>>>root 3453 0.0 0.0 3064 3064 ? S>>>>/usr/sbin/clulockd >>>> >>>>First, are you sure the device is being exported by arneb and that arneb >>>>is permitted to mount it? A "showmount -e arneb" will show what's being >>>>exported and who's allowed to look at it. >>>> >>>>I'm not familiar with RH's HA (high availability) structure so I can't >>>>speak to the details, but generally it's something along those lines. >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>>It must be a RH HA thing then. >>> >>># showmount -e arneb >>>Export list for arneb: >>>/usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal >>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>> >>>Even when I specify that all nodes ("*") should have access, it still >>>won't work. :-( >> >>I'm not certain what HA means by "service", but generally, NFS mounts >>specify the remote end as "nodename:/export", not as "service:/export". >>Try: >> >> mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >> >>on nihal and see if that works. It should. Also make sure that the >>server (arneb) is running nfsd. The existance of an exports file should >>trigger it. > A service (= linux, Tru64 terminology, = resource group on aix, = packages > on HP UNIX if I remember correctly) roughly is a collection of a virtual > ip-address (alias), disk devices, and application processes, that can be > accessed through the virtual ip-address. > In my current situation, arneb and nihal are hostnames, lepusbb is an > alias (normally on eth0:1 when the service runs on arneb). Do the aliases resolve either through DNS or via /etc/hosts? Remember that DNS has no concept of "service". It knows hosts and exports (as shown by the "showmount -e" command). On nihal, try both of these commands showmount -e lepusbb showmount -e arneb See if the lists they show are different based on the two aliases. > RH HA is explained in: > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/pdf/rh-cs-en.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only - - occurs there and then - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart at sjsears.com Fri Feb 11 11:46:43 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:46:43 +0000 Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH In-Reply-To: <64605.147.171.149.175.1108068701.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> References: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <5bdc1c8b0502100915d56eeb6@mail.gmail.com> <64605.147.171.149.175.1108068701.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> Message-ID: <420C9B23.70003@sjsears.com> Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr wrote: > % ls /etc/module.conf > alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix > alias eth0 e1000 > pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null > 2>&1 || : > alias usb-controller usb-uhci > alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd > # Turn off mcdx modules > alias block-major-20 off > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias char-major-116 snd > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 > alias char-major-14 soundcore > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > post-install snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > pre-remove snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > alias char-major-195 nvidia okay looks to me like it is trying to find a specific kernel sound driver and you don't have it (or your modules.conf is totally wrong). what are the lines referring to sound in the *functional* machine's /etc/modules.conf? (Assuming the two machines are identical) which kernel version are you now updated to? # uname -r UIAVMM the kernel is trying to load snd-intel8x0 as a driver, which certainly does not exist on my system (although the one I am sat in front of now has quite an old kernel on it) any where in /lib/modules/kernel/drivers what happens if you run # kudzu -p (as root?) Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX Sysadmin, trainer and general ne'er-do-well From Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr Fri Feb 11 16:29:01 2005 From: Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr (Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:29:01 +0100 (CET) Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH In-Reply-To: <420C9B23.70003@sjsears.com> References: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <5bdc1c8b0502100915d56eeb6@mail.gmail.com><64605.147.171.149.175.1108068701.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <420C9B23.70003@sjsears.com> Message-ID: <62913.147.171.149.175.1108139341.squirrel@acroe.imag.fr> Hi again, A few new infos about the problem with sound. As far as I could check it, the /etc/module.conf are identical on the two machines (one upgraded, no sound, the other not upgraded, no sound). The current version of the updgraded system is (uname -r) 2.4.21-27.0.2.EL kudzu -p detectes the sound card, with the following output : class: AUDIO bus: PCI detached: 0 driver: i810_audio desc: "Intel Corp.|82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller" vendorId: 8086 deviceId: 24d5 subVendorId: 1028 subDeviceId: 0156 pciType: 1 pcibus: 0 pcidev: 1f pcifn: 5 Now... We have just recovered sound outputs by copying the whole kernel/sound repertory from the old kernel version to the upgraded machines : % cp -r /lib/modules/2.4.21-4.EL/kernel/sound/ /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel (the /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel/sound did not exist). Now the sound is OK... But that is no doubt a bad way of doing, and we would prefer to do it properly ! Any advice ? Moreover, it seems that the alsa lib is still not runing well... The /proc/asound/version and /proc/asound/cards directories still do not exist. I was unable to compile, for example, the JACK audio server, because ./configure does not find the alsa lib in pkg-config... : %jack ./configure %for pkg-config... /home/castagne/kde3.3.2/bin/pkg-config %checking for alsa >= 1.0.0... Package alsa was not found in the pkg-config %search path. %Perhaps you should add the directory containing `alsa.pc' %to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable %No package 'alsa' found % %configure: error: Library requirements (alsa >= 1.0.0) not met; consider %adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are %in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. Well, this may be due to something else... But it may also be related ! Thx Nicolas > Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr wrote: >> % ls /etc/module.conf >> alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix >> alias eth0 e1000 >> pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >> >/dev/null >> 2>&1 || : >> alias usb-controller usb-uhci >> alias usb-controller1 ehci-hcd >> # Turn off mcdx modules >> alias block-major-20 off >> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 >> alias char-major-116 snd >> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 >> alias char-major-14 soundcore >> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 >> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss >> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss >> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss >> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss >> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss >> post-install snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || : >> pre-remove snd-card-0 /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : >> alias char-major-195 nvidia > > okay looks to me like it is trying to find a specific kernel sound > driver and you don't have it (or your modules.conf is totally wrong). > > what are the lines referring to sound in the *functional* machine's > /etc/modules.conf? (Assuming the two machines are identical) > > which kernel version are you now updated to? > # uname -r > > UIAVMM the kernel is trying to load snd-intel8x0 as a driver, which > certainly does not exist on my system (although the one I am sat in > front of now has quite an old kernel on it) any where in > /lib/modules/kernel/drivers > > what happens if you run > # kudzu -p > (as root?) > > Stuart > -- > Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX > Sysadmin, trainer and general ne'er-do-well > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 18:18:13 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:18:13 -0800 Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH In-Reply-To: <62913.147.171.149.175.1108139341.squirrel@acroe.imag.fr> References: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <5bdc1c8b0502100915d56eeb6@mail.gmail.com> <64605.147.171.149.175.1108068701.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <420C9B23.70003@sjsears.com> <62913.147.171.149.175.1108139341.squirrel@acroe.imag.fr> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0502111018496b7111@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:29:01 +0100 (CET), Nicolas.Castagne at imag.fr wrote: > Hi again, > > A few new infos about the problem with sound. > > As far as I could check it, the /etc/module.conf are identical on the two > machines (one upgraded, no sound, the other not upgraded, no sound). > > The current version of the updgraded system is (uname -r) > 2.4.21-27.0.2.EL > > kudzu -p detectes the sound card, with the following output : > class: AUDIO > bus: PCI > detached: 0 > driver: i810_audio > desc: "Intel Corp.|82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller" > vendorId: 8086 > deviceId: 24d5 > subVendorId: 1028 > subDeviceId: 0156 > pciType: 1 > pcibus: 0 > pcidev: 1f > pcifn: 5 > > Now... > > We have just recovered sound outputs by copying the whole kernel/sound > repertory from the old kernel version to the upgraded machines : > % cp -r /lib/modules/2.4.21-4.EL/kernel/sound/ > /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel > (the /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel/sound did not exist). Hi - For a complete /lib/modules/kernel-version to be missing seems like a pretty big problem.. To me this seems a bit like you didn't have the right /usr/src/linux link. Some programs use that link to determine where to put things or what to build code against. If the link points to the wrong kernel then stuff gets placed in the wrong location. Since you are using a much older kernel here you are possibly more subject to that sort of problem. > > Now the sound is OK... But that is no doubt a bad way of doing, and we > would prefer to do it properly ! Any advice ? Yes - keep working to find the right answer. > > Moreover, it seems that the alsa lib is still not runing well... > The /proc/asound/version and /proc/asound/cards directories still do not > exist. This may be dependent onthe version of Alsa you are using. I am assuming that you do have a /proc directory. Do you? On the other hand if Alsa didn't load then possibly that directpry is not created. Another sort of ugly possiblity is that your sound is coming from OSS. Again since you are usign something older this could be happening. > I was unable to compile, for example, the JACK audio server, because > ./configure does not find the alsa lib in pkg-config... : Jack will not run until Alsa runs cleanly. I use Jack all the time. It works very well, but it does require Alsa be up and going. - Mark From stuart at sjsears.com Fri Feb 11 19:28:50 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (stuart) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:28:50 +0000 Subject: No more audio after upgrading the packages on RNH In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0502111018496b7111@mail.gmail.com> References: <61955.147.171.149.175.1108061354.squirrel@www-acroe.imag.fr> <62913.147.171.149.175.1108139341.squirrel@acroe.imag.fr> <5bdc1c8b0502111018496b7111@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502111928.57698.stuart@sjsears.com> On Friday 11 February 2005 18:18, Mark Knecht wrote: > > The current version of the updgraded system is (uname -r) > > 2.4.21-27.0.2.EL okay, the latest one (I think) > > > > kudzu -p detectes the sound card, with the following output : > > class: AUDIO > > bus: PCI > > detached: 0 > > driver: i810_audio > > We have just recovered sound outputs by copying the whole kernel/sound > > repertory from the old kernel version to the upgraded machines : > > % cp -r /lib/modules/2.4.21-4.EL/kernel/sound/ > > /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel > > (the /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel/sound did not exist). Sorry - this was a typo in my last post (I missed out part of the path. I was quite distracted at the time.): should have been /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel/drivers/sound do you have drivers in there? if you copied the other machine's modules to /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.EL/kernel/sound/ then the original ones are probably still there, so nothing should have been broken. Phew. based on the kudzu output, your sound chip uses the intel i810 audio driver and you should have had a line something like alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio in your /etc/modules.conf as for the other mixer lines etc etc I'm not entirely sure how they should work. you could try leaving them in and see what happens? > Hi - For a complete /lib/modules/kernel-version to be missing seems > like a pretty big problem.. I don't think it was, Mark. I think Nicolas read my last post, typo and all and believed me. That'll learn 'im :-) > To me this seems a bit like you didn't have the right /usr/src/linux > link. I would disagree here, the /usr/src/linux-2.4 directory links are not related to the kernel having missing drivers, unless it is a home-compiled affair, which based on earlier posts it probably isn't > Some programs use that link to determine where to put things or > what to build code against. If the link points to the wrong kernel > then stuff gets placed in the wrong location. Since you are using a > much older kernel here you are possibly more subject to that sort of > problem. > > > Now the sound is OK... But that is no doubt a bad way of doing, and we > > would prefer to do it properly ! Any advice ? 1) check the correct directory in /lib/modules 2) see if 'lsmod | grep i810' tells you anything useful on the whole I would *never* mix modules from two different kernel versions. They can make your linux environment a very uncomfortable place.... > > Yes - keep working to find the right answer. > > > Moreover, it seems that the alsa lib is still not runing well... > > The /proc/asound/version and /proc/asound/cards directories still do not > > exist. > On the other hand if Alsa didn't load then possibly that directpry is > not created. this is distinctly possible, given that /proc only reflects what the kernel currently knows about. what happens if you modprobe i810_audio ? do the directories appear then? > > I was unable to compile, for example, the JACK audio server, because > > ./configure does not find the alsa lib in pkg-config... : You would need the ALSA development libraries for compiling JACK (or so I am inclined to believe). Is there not a precompiled RPM of it you could install without needing the build libraries? > Jack will not run until Alsa runs cleanly. I use Jack all the time. It > works very well, but it does require Alsa be up and going. was this a home-build of JACK or do you have an RPM? I only ask because I was reading about in just the other day and it looks very cool. Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP "Life is too important to take seriously." -- Corky Siegel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From evdhn at advalvas.be Fri Feb 11 23:28:25 2005 From: evdhn at advalvas.be (evdhn at advalvas.be) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:28:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <420BFD14.9060000@vitalstream.com> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> <19777.213.119.143.241.1108075266.squirrel@213.119.143.241> <420BE26D.7070700@vitalstream.com> <16051.213.119.143.241.1108080428.squirrel@213.119.143.241> <420BFD14.9060000@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4365.213.119.142.7.1108164505.squirrel@213.119.142.7> > evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >>>>>>>>In a Red Hat HA Cluster (v3), how can you nfs mount a directory >>>>>>>>exported >>>>>>>>by a cluster service that is currently local to the cluster member? >>>>>>>>I keep getting permission denied errors. It works fine when I move >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>cluster service to the other cluster member. The firewall has been >>>>>>>>stoppped, just to make sure it wasn't part of the problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Make sure you have portmapper and nfslock running on both the client >>>>>>>and >>>>>>>server. That's the most common problem. >>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com >>>>>>> - >>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks for your answer Rick, but apparently I explained poorly. >>>>>> >>>>>>This is a two-member cluster with hostnames arneb and nihal and >>>>>>services >>>>>>lepusbb and lepustl. >>>>>>When service lepusbb runs on arneb, I cannot nfs mount its device on >>>>>>arneb >>>>>>using the service name. I.e. >>>>>># mount -t nfs lepusbb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>>>>does not work on arneb, but it does work on nihal. >>>>>>Similarly, I can mount lepustl:/usr/local/lepus-tl on arneb but not >>>>>> on >>>>>>nihal. >>>>>> >>>>>>I meanwhile found that >>>>>># mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>>>>>does work, so I'm currently using that as a workaround, but >>>>>> obviously, >>>>>>when a failover would occur while the devices are locally mounted, my >>>>>>scripts wil be in trouble. >>>>>> >>>>>>And yes, portmapper and nfslock are running: >>>>>># ps auxw | egrep -e lock -e portm | grep -v grep >>>>>>rpc 3109 0.0 0.0 1672 608 ? S 10:36 0:00 >>>>>> portmap >>>>>>root 3314 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:36 0:00 >>>>>> [lockd] >>>>>>root 3453 0.0 0.0 3064 3064 ? S>>>>>/usr/sbin/clulockd >>>>> >>>>>First, are you sure the device is being exported by arneb and that >>>>> arneb >>>>>is permitted to mount it? A "showmount -e arneb" will show what's >>>>> being >>>>>exported and who's allowed to look at it. >>>>> >>>>>I'm not familiar with RH's HA (high availability) structure so I can't >>>>>speak to the details, but generally it's something along those lines. >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>>It must be a RH HA thing then. >>>> >>>># showmount -e arneb >>>>Export list for arneb: >>>>/usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal >>>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>>>/usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba >>>> >>>>Even when I specify that all nodes ("*") should have access, it still >>>>won't work. :-( >>> >>>I'm not certain what HA means by "service", but generally, NFS mounts >>>specify the remote end as "nodename:/export", not as "service:/export". >>>Try: >>> >>> mount -t nfs arneb:/usr/local/lepus-bb /usr/local/bb >>> >>>on nihal and see if that works. It should. Also make sure that the >>>server (arneb) is running nfsd. The existance of an exports file should >>>trigger it. >> A service (= linux, Tru64 terminology, = resource group on aix, = >> packages >> on HP UNIX if I remember correctly) roughly is a collection of a virtual >> ip-address (alias), disk devices, and application processes, that can be >> accessed through the virtual ip-address. >> In my current situation, arneb and nihal are hostnames, lepusbb is an >> alias (normally on eth0:1 when the service runs on arneb). > > Do the aliases resolve either through DNS or via /etc/hosts? Remember > that DNS has no concept of "service". It knows hosts and exports (as > shown by the "showmount -e" command). On nihal, try both of these > commands > > showmount -e lepusbb > showmount -e arneb > > See if the lists they show are different based on the two aliases. > >> RH HA is explained in: >> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/pdf/rh-cs-en.pdf > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The aliases resolve through /ets/hosts by virtue of /etc/nsswitch.conf, but dns knows them as well. And with lepusbb running on arneb, the two showmounts return exactly the same result on nihal: # showmount -e lepusbb Export list for lepusbb: /usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal /usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba # showmount -e arneb Export list for arneb: /usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal /usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba /usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba dns needn't know about services. They are basically virtual hosts, that run on physical hosts, but can be failed over to another physical host in case of problems (usually hardware failure - but it can also come in handy when you need to upgrade the OS, or replace the physical hardware e.g. to something more powerful). To everyone and everything using the service (in this case nfs devices) a service is indistinguishable from a regular host. You can ping it, you can log on to it, etc. When the nfs service fails over to another cluster member (i.e. another physical host), the clients may experience a short delay (as in seconds) in response time, but otherwise won't notice the difference. emma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plaats je zoekertjes GRATIS op AdValvas Placez votre petite annonce GRATUITEMENT sur AdValvas http://www.advalvas.be From mikerault at yahoo.com Sat Feb 12 01:56:20 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:56:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: 10g emctl error - Integration Class not found In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050212015620.6429.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Have you used emca to install the repository and preferred credentials? Mike --- Senthil Kumar Chakaravel wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Sorry may not be the right forum....but this issue > is something to do > with Linux OS, so I am seeking some help here. > > Linux ES3.0 - Oracle 10g > > I could not get my Enterprise manager DB console > working properly. I > get my initial screen by typing the URL > htt://hostname:5500/em > I could login to this. Then after I try to click the > 'Maintenance > link', it asked for usr name and pwd again. Upon > given them and try to > login I got a error > - SO Exception was generated > > I checked the log at > /opt/oracle/product/10.1.0/db_1/app01/sysman/log > > it has the following information > 2005-02-10 16:35:05,509 > [EMUI_16_35_05_/console/database/instance/sitemap] > ERROR perf.sitemap > initializeGeneral.327 - Failed to initialize object: > ORA-20206: > ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.EMD_DATABASE", line 1144 > ORA-01403: no data found > ORA-06512: at line 1 > > 2005-02-10 16:35:11,310 > [EMUI_16_35_11_/console/database/instance/sitemap] > ERROR eml.creds > loadCreds.550 - CredsBean.loadCreds(): Error loading > credentials: > ORA-20206: > ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.MGMT_TARGET", line 356 > ORA-01403: no data found > ORA-06512: at "SYSMAN.MGMT_CREDENTIAL", line 1668 > ORA-06512: at line 1 > > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,385 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.ias.ias.IASIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,628 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.eml.target.slb.common.SLBIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,759 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.eml.ssl.intg.SSLIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,844 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.tip.oem.central.domain.ProcessConnectDomainIntg > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,847 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.tip.oem.central.instance.ProcessConnectInstanceIntg > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,852 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.webdb.admin.em.PortalIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,855 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.webdb.admin.em.SSOIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,858 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.reports.em.RepIntg > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,861 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsEmailIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,864 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsOidIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,867 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsOvfIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,871 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsWebconfIntegration > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,874 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsWirelessIntg > 2005-02-10 16:35:48,877 [Orion Launcher] ERROR > app.ContextInitializer > contextInitialized.265 - Integration Class not > found: > oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsCalGrpIntegration > > So I re-installed the necessary Enterprise DB > console, thinking that > it will install the necessary jar files, but the > same problem exists. > > Can anybody share their ideas with me? > > Thanks > Kumar > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > ===== Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From gnichols at tpg.com.au Sat Feb 12 04:28:42 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:28:42 +1100 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> Graeme Nichols wrote: > Hello Folks, After getting over the media check failures of FC3 I am > now encountering the following error that pops up straight after > selecting the keyboard. It is as follows: > > BUG > Assertion (heads >0) at disk_dos.c:485 in function > probe_partition_for_geom() failed > 96 > > BUG > Assertion (sectors<=63) at disk_dos.c:490 in function > probe_partition_for_geom() failed > 96 > > Clicking on the right button (can't remember what it was labelled now) > resulted in a revolving hourglass cursor and a very long wait. > Clicking on the 'Ignore' button resulted in aborting the install. > > I have tried the suggestions in the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ > website (boot: linux ide=nodma) but no joy. > > Has anyone come across the same problem? If so, what is the workaround? > > My system is P4 3G, 512 Mb RAM, hda 200G (Win XP SP2), hdb 40G (FC2), > Radeon 9800XXL video and the usual hardware. The system is a Medion > (German make/design) > > TIA > I hope this may help others who encounter the media test failure and 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug during an upgrade of FC2 to FC3. The workaround which definitely works (The workaround on the RH site doesn't!) is to boot from your FC2 CD1 and run the media test from there. Once the media check is completed then Ctl +Alt + Del to re-boot the machine and start the upgrade again. When the 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug bites after selecting the keyboard just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button and the upgrade will continue. The same bug will bite again a little later, just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button until the upgrade continues and all will be OK. According to bugzilla it is resolved but, probably due to my ignorance, I could not find what the resolution was. HOWEVER.... the bug is caused by the bug-ridden version of PARTED v1.6.15 that comes on the FC3 CDs. ( run PARTED 1.6.15 from the command line as root and you will see what I mean). I would imagine, but I haven't tried it, that if you install the latest version of PARTED before doing the upgrade to FC3 then IF PARTED is run from the HD and not the install FC3 CD1 (I haven't found the PARTED executable on the FC3 CD1) then the bug will not occur Hope this helps others. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To understand a program you must become both the machine and the program. From yogeshpalrecha at rediffmail.com Sun Feb 13 16:06:24 2005 From: yogeshpalrecha at rediffmail.com (yogesh tejraj palrecha) Date: 13 Feb 2005 16:06:24 -0000 Subject: ERROR: /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build points to a missing directory Message-ID: <20050213160624.18120.qmail@webmail7.rediffmail.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Feb 14 17:26:11 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:26:11 -0800 Subject: two bash scripting questions Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05021409267ea7e409@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I've built a little bash script that does some music stuff for me in Gnome. I've set a mime type in Gnome so that I can click on certain files, a terminal opens, the script runs, I answer some questions and the script makes the music server do some things. It works well, as far as it goes, but there are a couple of things I couldn't figure out on Sunday. 1) If I run a generic command that talks to a music server in a terminal I get a response of OK. I'd like to capture this OK, vs. the other possibilities or WARN or ERR, and take action based on that response. How can I do this in a script? 2) In the case of the command that adds channels to my server I get a response that has the channel number buried in the OK, such as OK[3] telling me the ADD CHANNEL command completed and the new channel is number 3. How can I capture this number for use in the script? The normal command sequence here might look like echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888 and I receive OK[3] back in the terminal. I tried some things like OUTPUT=`echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888` and OUTPUT=$(echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888) but they didn't work. The script is small. It's attached in case there are better ways to do this stuff that people want to share. Thanks much, Mark From gerrynix at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 18:14:07 2005 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:14:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: two bash scripting questions In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05021409267ea7e409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050214181407.1822.qmail@web51905.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I've built a little bash script that does some music stuff for me > in Gnome. I've set a mime type in Gnome so that I can click on certain > files, a terminal opens, the script runs, I answer some questions and > the script makes the music server do some things. It works well, as > far as it goes, but there are a couple of things I couldn't figure out > on Sunday. > > 1) If I run a generic command that talks to a music server in a > terminal I get a response of OK. I'd like to capture this OK, vs. the > other possibilities or WARN or ERR, and take action based on that > response. How can I do this in a script? > > 2) In the case of the command that adds channels to my server I get a > response that has the channel number buried in the OK, such as OK[3] > telling me the ADD CHANNEL command completed and the new channel is > number 3. How can I capture this number for use in the script? The > normal command sequence here might look like > > echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888 > > and I receive > > OK[3] back in the terminal. I tried some things like > > OUTPUT=`echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888` > > and > > OUTPUT=$(echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888) > > but they didn't work. > > The script is small. It's attached in case there are better ways to > do this stuff that people want to share. > > Thanks much, > Mark I did not find your script attached. Maybe not so eloquent, but this may give you some food for thought and adaptable to your needs. I did this from the command line for demo, but you could also use it in variable assignment with command substitution as in your examples. Those are all single quotes in the sed command and NO spaces anywhere inside the outside quotes. This in effect "strips away the capitals O and K and square braces. $ echo OK[3] | sed -g 's/'['']'[OK]//' 3 $ -- Nix > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 14 18:57:14 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:57:14 -0800 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> Graeme Nichols wrote: > Graeme Nichols wrote: > >> Hello Folks, After getting over the media check failures of FC3 I am >> now encountering the following error that pops up straight after >> selecting the keyboard. It is as follows: >> >> BUG >> Assertion (heads >0) at disk_dos.c:485 in function >> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >> 96 >> >> BUG >> Assertion (sectors<=63) at disk_dos.c:490 in function >> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >> 96 >> >> Clicking on the right button (can't remember what it was labelled now) >> resulted in a revolving hourglass cursor and a very long wait. >> Clicking on the 'Ignore' button resulted in aborting the install. >> >> I have tried the suggestions in the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ >> website (boot: linux ide=nodma) but no joy. >> >> Has anyone come across the same problem? If so, what is the workaround? >> >> My system is P4 3G, 512 Mb RAM, hda 200G (Win XP SP2), hdb 40G (FC2), >> Radeon 9800XXL video and the usual hardware. The system is a Medion >> (German make/design) >> >> TIA >> > I hope this may help others who encounter the media test failure and > 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug during an upgrade of FC2 to FC3. > > The workaround which definitely works (The workaround on the RH site > doesn't!) is to boot from your FC2 CD1 and run the media test from > there. Once the media check is completed then Ctl +Alt + Del to re-boot > the machine and start the upgrade again. And bypass the media check of FC3's install. You know the discs are good by now. > When the 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug bites after selecting the keyboard > just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button and the upgrade will > continue. The same bug will bite again a little later, just keep banging > away on the 'Cancel' button until the upgrade continues and all will be OK. Yes, that will work. > According to bugzilla it is resolved but, probably due to my ignorance, > I could not find what the resolution was. HOWEVER.... the bug is caused > by the bug-ridden version of PARTED v1.6.15 that comes on the FC3 CDs. ( > run PARTED 1.6.15 from the command line as root and you will see what I > mean). I would imagine, but I haven't tried it, that if you install the > latest version of PARTED before doing the upgrade to FC3 then IF PARTED > is run from the HD and not the install FC3 CD1 (I haven't found the > PARTED executable on the FC3 CD1) then the bug will not occur The parted used during installation is buried in the image of the RAM disk that anaconda installs for its operation. It does not depend on the hard drive at all. anaconda is pretty much self-contained. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 14 19:04:16 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:04:16 -0800 Subject: nfs mount locally exported directories in a Red HAt Cluster (v3)? In-Reply-To: <4365.213.119.142.7.1108164505.squirrel@213.119.142.7> References: <4531.134.58.253.113.1107953361.squirrel@134.58.253.113> <420A500E.6070202@vitalstream.com> <13467.134.58.253.57.1108031508.squirrel@134.58.253.57> <420B9488.80306@vitalstream.com> <19777.213.119.143.241.1108075266.squirrel@213.119.143.241> <420BE26D.7070700@vitalstream.com> <16051.213.119.143.241.1108080428.squirrel@213.119.143.241> <420BFD14.9060000@vitalstream.com> <4365.213.119.142.7.1108164505.squirrel@213.119.142.7> Message-ID: <4210F630.9090501@vitalstream.com> evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: > The aliases resolve through /ets/hosts by virtue of /etc/nsswitch.conf, > but dns knows them as well. > > And with lepusbb running on arneb, the two showmounts return exactly the > same result on nihal: > > # showmount -e lepusbb > Export list for lepusbb: > /usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal > /usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > # showmount -e arneb > Export list for arneb: > /usr/local/lepus-bb arneb,nihal > /usr/local/lepus-bb/server gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/content gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/sessions gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > /usr/local/lepus-bb/course_image_main_images gienah,albireo,sair,ruchba > > dns needn't know about services. They are basically virtual hosts, that > run on physical hosts, but can be failed over to another physical host in > case of problems (usually hardware failure - but it can also come in handy > when you need to upgrade the OS, or replace the physical hardware e.g. to > something more powerful). > To everyone and everything using the service (in this case nfs devices) a > service is indistinguishable from a regular host. You can ping it, you > can log on to it, etc. > When the nfs service fails over to another cluster member (i.e. another > physical host), the clients may experience a short delay (as in seconds) > in response time, but otherwise won't notice the difference. I really can't speak to it, then. If a client can nfsmount via "arneb:/share", then it should be able to mount via "lepusbb:/share" unless there is something subtly different between hosts and services that isn't apparent. You said you disabled the firewall, right? The only thing I can think of at this point is to do a tcpdump on both the server and client and see if the client's nfsmount requests for lepusbb are being rebuffed by the server somehow. You could be missing a route, I suppose (assuming lepusbb is on a different network than arneb). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 14 19:53:19 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:53:19 -0800 Subject: two bash scripting questions In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05021409267ea7e409@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05021409267ea7e409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <421101AF.4050201@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I've built a little bash script that does some music stuff for me > in Gnome. I've set a mime type in Gnome so that I can click on certain > files, a terminal opens, the script runs, I answer some questions and > the script makes the music server do some things. It works well, as > far as it goes, but there are a couple of things I couldn't figure out > on Sunday. > > 1) If I run a generic command that talks to a music server in a > terminal I get a response of OK. I'd like to capture this OK, vs. the > other possibilities or WARN or ERR, and take action based on that > response. How can I do this in a script? It rather depends. In bash, the "stdout" of a program can be captured as you show below (using "VARIABLE=`command`", "$VARIABLE" will contain the text returned by "command"). Most command-line programs also return a numeric return code which can be examined by looking at the "$?" built-in variable. Most commands return zero on success and non-zero on failure (and the non-zero failure MAY be related to valid error numbers in /usr/include/errno.h or /usr/include/sysexit.h). Here's a quickie script that demonstrates this: #!/bin/bash CMD=/usr/bin/true VAL=`$CMD` if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then echo $CMD returned TRUE, value is $VAL else echo $CMD returned FALSE, value is $VAL fi Change "CMD=/usr/bin/true" to "CMD=/usr/bin/false" to see the FALSE response. Also remember that $? is the return code of the LAST COMMAND, so I don't echo it above as it's value would be replaced by the result of the "if" test. If you want to examine it later, assign it to a variable and use the variable for testing: RC=$? if [ $RC -eq 0 ]; then > 2) In the case of the command that adds channels to my server I get a > response that has the channel number buried in the OK, such as OK[3] > telling me the ADD CHANNEL command completed and the new channel is > number 3. How can I capture this number for use in the script? The > normal command sequence here might look like > > echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888 > > and I receive > > OK[3] back in the terminal. I tried some things like > > OUTPUT=`echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888` > > and > > OUTPUT=$(echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888) > > but they didn't work. In what way didn't they work? Remember that "nc" may return stuff to stderr, and your "OK[3]" message may be on stderr rather than stdin. In that case, I'd change the commands to: echo "ADD CHANNEL" | nc localhost 8888 >/tmp/retstr 2>&1 RC=$? OUTPUT=`cat /tmp/retstr` rm -f /tmp/retstr You can then test $RC for the return code of the "echo" pipeline and see both stdout and stderr of the "nc" command in $OUTPUT. Clunky, but it works. > The script is small. It's attached in case there are better ways to > do this stuff that people want to share. Uh, it wasn't attached. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "You think that's tough? Try herding cats!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mikerault at yahoo.com Mon Feb 14 23:14:45 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:14:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: ERROR: /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build points to a missing directory In-Reply-To: <20050213160624.18120.qmail@webmail7.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <20050214231445.96794.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> You may also need to download and install the source file from the OTN site. Mike --- yogesh tejraj palrecha wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am getting this error while installing some rpm. > > ERROR: /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build > points to a > missing directory > > Any idea wht needs to be done ? > > Thanks, > Yogesh. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > ===== Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From gnichols at tpg.com.au Tue Feb 15 02:26:19 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:26:19 +1100 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> Rick Stevens wrote: > Graeme Nichols wrote: > >> Graeme Nichols wrote: >> >>> Hello Folks, After getting over the media check failures of FC3 I am >>> now encountering the following error that pops up straight after >>> selecting the keyboard. It is as follows: >>> >>> BUG >>> Assertion (heads >0) at disk_dos.c:485 in function >>> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >>> 96 >>> >>> BUG >>> Assertion (sectors<=63) at disk_dos.c:490 in function >>> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >>> 96 >>> >>> Clicking on the right button (can't remember what it was labelled >>> now) resulted in a revolving hourglass cursor and a very long wait. >>> Clicking on the 'Ignore' button resulted in aborting the install. >>> >>> I have tried the suggestions in the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ >>> website (boot: linux ide=nodma) but no joy. >>> >>> Has anyone come across the same problem? If so, what is the workaround? >>> >>> My system is P4 3G, 512 Mb RAM, hda 200G (Win XP SP2), hdb 40G >>> (FC2), Radeon 9800XXL video and the usual hardware. The system is a >>> Medion (German make/design) >>> >>> TIA >>> >> I hope this may help others who encounter the media test failure and >> 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug during an upgrade of FC2 to FC3. >> >> The workaround which definitely works (The workaround on the RH site >> doesn't!) is to boot from your FC2 CD1 and run the media test from >> there. Once the media check is completed then Ctl +Alt + Del to >> re-boot the machine and start the upgrade again. > > > And bypass the media check of FC3's install. You know the discs are > good by now. > >> When the 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug bites after selecting the >> keyboard just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button and the >> upgrade will continue. The same bug will bite again a little later, >> just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button until the upgrade >> continues and all will be OK. > > > Yes, that will work. > >> According to bugzilla it is resolved but, probably due to my >> ignorance, I could not find what the resolution was. HOWEVER.... the >> bug is caused by the bug-ridden version of PARTED v1.6.15 that comes >> on the FC3 CDs. ( run PARTED 1.6.15 from the command line as root and >> you will see what I mean). I would imagine, but I haven't tried it, >> that if you install the latest version of PARTED before doing the >> upgrade to FC3 then IF PARTED is run from the HD and not the install >> FC3 CD1 (I haven't found the PARTED executable on the FC3 CD1) then >> the bug will not occur > > > The parted used during installation is buried in the image of the RAM > disk that anaconda installs for its operation. It does not depend on > the hard drive at all. anaconda is pretty much self-contained. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > . > Hi Rick, so my 'workaround' for parted will not work. Oh well... pity, but the effort is worth it for FC3. I'm working on trying to move from StarOffice 5.2 to OOo-1.1.2 (StarOffice 5.2 will not run with the 2.6.9 kernel) by converting all my templates and document files but the document conversion does not work, 'missing file' is the error it throws up. I 'think' the problem is old 1.1.1 stuff left on the HD. As soon as I get a chance I'll rpm -e openoffice* and do an rpm -Uvh openoffice* so all the old stuff will, hopefully, be erased. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You know, Callahan's is a peaceable bar, but if you ask that dog what his favorite formatter is, and he says "roff! roff!", well, I'll just have to... From andreas at j8.com.ru Tue Feb 15 11:55:48 2005 From: andreas at j8.com.ru (Andreas Sokov) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:55:48 +0300 Subject: trouble with Intel 82541 Gigabit Ethernet Controller Message-ID: <38857455.20050215145548@j8.com.ru> ????????????, redhat-install-list. I was get so trouble like below : > On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 04:42, Mark G. Spencer wrote: >> I just installed Red Hat 9 on a MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R motherboard. It has >> "Onboard Intel Gigabit LAN", "5.1 Channel Audio", and an ATI Radeon 9200 >> video card. >> >> I'm sure I can resolve the audio and video so I'm not too worried about >> them. The ethernet not being detected though is a big problem, since >> updating the machine would be most efficient connected to my network! >> >> Any ideas on how to get this ethernet chipset recognized and functional in a >> fresh (all packages selected) install of RH9? I have a floppy and CD drive >> on this machine so I can burn/copy drivers and whatever else necessary to >> removable media to get the ethernet up. > > Could you supply more details on the ethernet chipset on your > motherboard? > > My system is working fine with the following.... > > Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller > (rev 02) > > using the e1000 driver with RH9. > > Ed > -- > "An opinion is like an asshole - everybody has one." > - Clint Eastwood as Harry Callahan, The Dead Pool - 1988 I has SUPERMICRO MB P4SCE-O (P4SCSA) with Intel 82541 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (exactly 82541 ! not 82540 or 82543 it is suported ok but not mine 82541 !!! ) AND it can not see by kernel !!! Who can resolve this trouble ? -- ? ?????????, Andreas mailto:andreas at j8.com.ru From roland at cat.be Tue Feb 15 16:40:10 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:40:10 +0100 Subject: VNC In-Reply-To: <41F68484.3090208@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <000601c5137d$03fe3bc0$ef01a8c0@pccat03> Hi everybody, Is there a way to start VNC, without getting the desktop of Linux, but direct the program you would like to execute. I understand that Microsoft Terminalserver can do it, so... I am asking this because it takes to much time, over the internet, to start VNC with linux-desktop. Thanks for any answer. roland From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Tue Feb 15 18:18:31 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:18:31 -0500 Subject: VNC Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC2DF296@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of roland brouwers Sent: Tue 2/15/2005 11:40 AM To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' Subject: VNC Hi everybody, Is there a way to start VNC, without getting the desktop of Linux, but direct the program you would like to execute. I understand that Microsoft Terminalserver can do it, so... I am asking this because it takes to much time, over the internet, to start VNC with linux-desktop. Thanks for any answer. roland _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe I would read the how-to's for this it goes step by step on how to do it. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peeyush_maurya at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 19:00:47 2005 From: peeyush_maurya at yahoo.com (Peeyush Maurya) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:00:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: VNC In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC2DF296@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <20050215190047.36981.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com> >Is there a way to start VNC, without getting the desktop >of Linux, but >direct the program you would like to execute. vncserver is the command to start vncserver manually or u can start it at startup as service for opening a program on vnc desktop modify u need to modify some file in ~/.vnc/ i dont remember which .. regards peeyush http://www.linux-faqs.com http://linux-faqs.com/Forum/ --- "Smith, Albert" wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of > roland brouwers > Sent: Tue 2/15/2005 11:40 AM > To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > Subject: VNC > > Hi everybody, > > Is there a way to start VNC, without getting the desktop > of Linux, but > direct the program you would like to execute. > > I understand that Microsoft Terminalserver can do it, > so... > > I am asking this because it takes to much time, over the > internet, to > start VNC with linux-desktop. > > Thanks for any answer. > > roland > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > I would read the how-to's for this it goes step by step > on how to do it. > > > > Albert Smith > Sr. Unix Systems Administrator > Genex Services > 440 E. Swedesford Rd. > Wayne, PA 19087 > albert.smith at genexservices.com > (610) 964-5154 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 15 19:16:45 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:16:45 -0800 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> Graeme Nichols wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Graeme Nichols wrote: >> >>> Graeme Nichols wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Folks, After getting over the media check failures of FC3 I am >>>> now encountering the following error that pops up straight after >>>> selecting the keyboard. It is as follows: >>>> >>>> BUG >>>> Assertion (heads >0) at disk_dos.c:485 in function >>>> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >>>> 96 >>>> >>>> BUG >>>> Assertion (sectors<=63) at disk_dos.c:490 in function >>>> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >>>> 96 >>>> >>>> Clicking on the right button (can't remember what it was labelled >>>> now) resulted in a revolving hourglass cursor and a very long wait. >>>> Clicking on the 'Ignore' button resulted in aborting the install. >>>> >>>> I have tried the suggestions in the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ >>>> website (boot: linux ide=nodma) but no joy. >>>> >>>> Has anyone come across the same problem? If so, what is the workaround? >>>> >>>> My system is P4 3G, 512 Mb RAM, hda 200G (Win XP SP2), hdb 40G >>>> (FC2), Radeon 9800XXL video and the usual hardware. The system is a >>>> Medion (German make/design) >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>> I hope this may help others who encounter the media test failure and >>> 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug during an upgrade of FC2 to FC3. >>> >>> The workaround which definitely works (The workaround on the RH site >>> doesn't!) is to boot from your FC2 CD1 and run the media test from >>> there. Once the media check is completed then Ctl +Alt + Del to >>> re-boot the machine and start the upgrade again. >> >> >> >> And bypass the media check of FC3's install. You know the discs are >> good by now. >> >>> When the 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug bites after selecting the >>> keyboard just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button and the >>> upgrade will continue. The same bug will bite again a little later, >>> just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button until the upgrade >>> continues and all will be OK. >> >> >> >> Yes, that will work. >> >>> According to bugzilla it is resolved but, probably due to my >>> ignorance, I could not find what the resolution was. HOWEVER.... the >>> bug is caused by the bug-ridden version of PARTED v1.6.15 that comes >>> on the FC3 CDs. ( run PARTED 1.6.15 from the command line as root and >>> you will see what I mean). I would imagine, but I haven't tried it, >>> that if you install the latest version of PARTED before doing the >>> upgrade to FC3 then IF PARTED is run from the HD and not the install >>> FC3 CD1 (I haven't found the PARTED executable on the FC3 CD1) then >>> the bug will not occur >> >> >> >> The parted used during installation is buried in the image of the RAM >> disk that anaconda installs for its operation. It does not depend on >> the hard drive at all. anaconda is pretty much self-contained. > > Hi Rick, so my 'workaround' for parted will not work. Oh well... pity, > but the effort is worth it for FC3. Yup. Sorry about that. I'm glad to hear you got it sorted out. I hadn't heard about the problems with parted. Sounds like it gets confused by head counts >15. Ick! > I'm working on trying to move from StarOffice 5.2 to OOo-1.1.2 > (StarOffice 5.2 will not run with the 2.6.9 kernel) by converting all my > templates and document files but the document conversion does not work, > 'missing file' is the error it throws up. I 'think' the problem is old > 1.1.1 stuff left on the HD. As soon as I get a chance I'll rpm -e > openoffice* and do an rpm -Uvh openoffice* so all the old stuff will, > hopefully, be erased. That's a possibility. To be honest, I haven't tried conversion of my old StarOffice stuff. At the office, I have three machines. The main machine is "prophead", which is quite old (believe it or not a P-III/866 with 512MB) and still runs FC1. I have requested a new machine, but haven't pushed the issue so far, but I'm getting to the point that I really need a better machine (I develop a LOT of software and it takes forever to compile stuff). Most of my docs are on prophead with OpenOffice 1.1.0. It reads the stuff I had from StarOffice without too many issues. When it gets replaced and sent to FC3 with OO 1.1.3, I may have problems. I'll worry about that later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What's small, yellow and very, VERY dangerous? The root canary! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 15 19:18:57 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:18:57 -0800 Subject: trouble with Intel 82541 Gigabit Ethernet Controller In-Reply-To: <38857455.20050215145548@j8.com.ru> References: <38857455.20050215145548@j8.com.ru> Message-ID: <42124B21.5080003@vitalstream.com> Andreas Sokov wrote: > ????????????, redhat-install-list. > > I was get so trouble like below : > > >>On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 04:42, Mark G. Spencer wrote: >> >>>I just installed Red Hat 9 on a MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R motherboard. It has >>>"Onboard Intel Gigabit LAN", "5.1 Channel Audio", and an ATI Radeon 9200 >>>video card. >>> >>>I'm sure I can resolve the audio and video so I'm not too worried about >>>them. The ethernet not being detected though is a big problem, since >>>updating the machine would be most efficient connected to my network! >>> >>>Any ideas on how to get this ethernet chipset recognized and functional in a >>>fresh (all packages selected) install of RH9? I have a floppy and CD drive >>>on this machine so I can burn/copy drivers and whatever else necessary to >>>removable media to get the ethernet up. >> >>Could you supply more details on the ethernet chipset on your >>motherboard? >> >>My system is working fine with the following.... >> >>Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller >>(rev 02) >> >>using the e1000 driver with RH9. >> >>Ed >>-- >>"An opinion is like an asshole - everybody has one." >> - Clint Eastwood as Harry Callahan, The Dead Pool - 1988 > > > I has SUPERMICRO MB P4SCE-O (P4SCSA) > with Intel 82541 Gigabit Ethernet Controller > (exactly 82541 ! not 82540 or 82543 it is suported ok but not mine > 82541 !!! ) > > AND it can not see by kernel !!! > > Who can resolve this trouble ? Try forcing the system to try the e1000 driver. After booting, try "modprobe e1000". If the driver loads, you should edit the /etc/modules.conf file and add a line: alias eth0 e1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 15 19:22:56 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:22:56 -0800 Subject: VNC In-Reply-To: <000601c5137d$03fe3bc0$ef01a8c0@pccat03> References: <000601c5137d$03fe3bc0$ef01a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <42124C10.3090808@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Is there a way to start VNC, without getting the desktop of Linux, but > direct the program you would like to execute. > > I understand that Microsoft Terminalserver can do it, so... > > I am asking this because it takes to much time, over the internet, to > start VNC with linux-desktop. > > Thanks for any answer. The HOWTO on VNC explains it all, but you can run vncserver as a separate task by the user you intend to remotely log in as. In that user's home directory, you should find a ".vnc" directory. In it should be a file called "xstartup". It should contain the following: #!/bin/sh # Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script unset SESSION_MANAGER exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc When you vnc to the box, do it as follows: vncviewer remoteboxname:1 Log in and you should get an absolute minimum X desktop (basically the TWM manager). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From scottb at bxwa.com Wed Feb 16 00:18:45 2005 From: scottb at bxwa.com (Scott Becker) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:18:45 -0800 Subject: Raid Failure Notification Message-ID: <42129165.3050909@bxwa.com> I'm setting up a new server with ES 3 which will go into a data-center. It has an adaptec raid controller with a hotplug raid 5 array attached. I've tested the failure mode and am happy with the results. I need to configure something so that root gets an email when a drive fails. It's using the dpt_i2o driver and I've heard that dptutils is the package written by adaptec to manage the array. Is dptutils hidden somewhere in RH 3 or is it missing. Is there another way to configure notification? Is there a proper way to get this dptutils if they are not in RH? thanks scottb From mgalgoci at redhat.com Wed Feb 16 00:50:44 2005 From: mgalgoci at redhat.com (Matthew Galgoci) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:50:44 -0500 Subject: Raid Failure Notification In-Reply-To: <42129165.3050909@bxwa.com> References: <42129165.3050909@bxwa.com> Message-ID: > I'm setting up a new server with ES 3 which will go into a data-center. > It has an adaptec raid controller with a hotplug raid 5 array attached. > I've tested the failure mode and am happy with the results. I need to > configure something so that root gets an email when a drive fails. It's > using the dpt_i2o driver and I've heard that dptutils is the package > written by adaptec to manage the array. Is dptutils hidden somewhere in > RH 3 or is it missing. Is there another way to configure notification? > Is there a proper way to get this dptutils if they are not in RH? dptutils is not a package provided by Red Hat. You'll need to get it from adaptec. -- Matthew Galgoci System Administrator Red Hat, Inc 919.754.3700 x44155 From cs at zip.com.au Wed Feb 16 03:47:11 2005 From: cs at zip.com.au (Cameron Simpson) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:47:11 +1100 Subject: VNC In-Reply-To: <000601c5137d$03fe3bc0$ef01a8c0@pccat03> References: <41F68484.3090208@vitalstream.com> <000601c5137d$03fe3bc0$ef01a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <20050216034711.GA22831@cskk.homeip.net> On 17:40 15 Feb 2005, roland brouwers wrote: | Is there a way to start VNC, without getting the desktop of Linux, but | direct the program you would like to execute. Sure. Make a short shell script ~/.vnc/xstartup Put in it the commands you want to run. if you have that script, vncserver runs _only_ that script. You're getting a full bloated desktop because that's what vncserver runs without that script (i.e. it tries to default to a "normal" desktop). See "man vncserver". Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ The betas never stop at Microsoft. - news.com From gnichols at tpg.com.au Wed Feb 16 04:52:22 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:52:22 +1100 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> Rick Stevens wrote: > Graeme Nichols wrote: > >> Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>> Graeme Nichols wrote: >>> >>>> Graeme Nichols wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Folks, After getting over the media check failures of FC3 I >>>>> am now encountering the following error that pops up straight >>>>> after selecting the keyboard. It is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> BUG >>>>> Assertion (heads >0) at disk_dos.c:485 in function >>>>> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >>>>> 96 >>>>> >>>>> BUG >>>>> Assertion (sectors<=63) at disk_dos.c:490 in function >>>>> probe_partition_for_geom() failed >>>>> 96 >>>>> >>>>> Clicking on the right button (can't remember what it was labelled >>>>> now) resulted in a revolving hourglass cursor and a very long >>>>> wait. Clicking on the 'Ignore' button resulted in aborting the >>>>> install. >>>>> >>>>> I have tried the suggestions in the http://www.fedorafaq.org/ >>>>> website (boot: linux ide=nodma) but no joy. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone come across the same problem? If so, what is the >>>>> workaround? >>>>> >>>>> My system is P4 3G, 512 Mb RAM, hda 200G (Win XP SP2), hdb 40G >>>>> (FC2), Radeon 9800XXL video and the usual hardware. The system is >>>>> a Medion (German make/design) >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>>> >>>> I hope this may help others who encounter the media test failure >>>> and 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug during an upgrade of FC2 to FC3. >>>> >>>> The workaround which definitely works (The workaround on the RH >>>> site doesn't!) is to boot from your FC2 CD1 and run the media test >>>> from there. Once the media check is completed then Ctl +Alt + Del >>>> to re-boot the machine and start the upgrade again. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> And bypass the media check of FC3's install. You know the discs are >>> good by now. >>> >>>> When the 'Assertion (heads >0)' bug bites after selecting the >>>> keyboard just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button and the >>>> upgrade will continue. The same bug will bite again a little later, >>>> just keep banging away on the 'Cancel' button until the upgrade >>>> continues and all will be OK. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, that will work. >>> >>>> According to bugzilla it is resolved but, probably due to my >>>> ignorance, I could not find what the resolution was. HOWEVER.... >>>> the bug is caused by the bug-ridden version of PARTED v1.6.15 that >>>> comes on the FC3 CDs. ( run PARTED 1.6.15 from the command line as >>>> root and you will see what I mean). I would imagine, but I haven't >>>> tried it, that if you install the latest version of PARTED before >>>> doing the upgrade to FC3 then IF PARTED is run from the HD and not >>>> the install FC3 CD1 (I haven't found the PARTED executable on the >>>> FC3 CD1) then the bug will not occur >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The parted used during installation is buried in the image of the RAM >>> disk that anaconda installs for its operation. It does not depend on >>> the hard drive at all. anaconda is pretty much self-contained. >> >> >> Hi Rick, so my 'workaround' for parted will not work. Oh well... >> pity, but the effort is worth it for FC3. > > > Yup. Sorry about that. I'm glad to hear you got it sorted out. I > hadn't heard about the problems with parted. Sounds like it gets > confused by head counts >15. Ick! > >> I'm working on trying to move from StarOffice 5.2 to OOo-1.1.2 >> (StarOffice 5.2 will not run with the 2.6.9 kernel) by converting all >> my templates and document files but the document conversion does not >> work, 'missing file' is the error it throws up. I 'think' the problem >> is old 1.1.1 stuff left on the HD. As soon as I get a chance I'll rpm >> -e openoffice* and do an rpm -Uvh openoffice* so all the old stuff >> will, hopefully, be erased. > > > That's a possibility. To be honest, I haven't tried conversion of my > old StarOffice stuff. Thanks to rpm -q --filesbypkg openoffice.org I managed to locate the 'setup' file I am instructed to run when I try and convert my files and templates but running it doesn't fix anything so I converted all my StarOffice 5.2 files and templates on my Windows install of OO and copied them all across to the appropriate directories on FC2. Worked fine. The question, I guess, is why has FC3 (and FC2 by the way) been supplied with a broken OO? I fired up my Lindows CD and my Knoppix CD and both the OO versions on them, 1.0 and 1.1 respectively, have the document conversion working as expected. Ahhh.. the idiosyncrasies of RedHat ... > > At the office, I have three machines. The main machine is "prophead", > which is quite old (believe it or not a P-III/866 with 512MB) and still > runs FC1. I have requested a new machine, but haven't pushed the issue > so far, but I'm getting to the point that I really need a better machine > (I develop a LOT of software and it takes forever to compile stuff). > > Most of my docs are on prophead with OpenOffice 1.1.0. It reads the > stuff I had from StarOffice without too many issues. When it gets > replaced and sent to FC3 with OO 1.1.3, I may have problems. I'll worry > about that later. My FC3 only has OO 1.1.2 -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- May all your PUSHes be POPped. From arms780 at bellsouth.net Wed Feb 16 15:41:55 2005 From: arms780 at bellsouth.net (arms780 at bellsouth.net) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:41:55 -0500 Subject: remote login Message-ID: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> I am trying to access my linux box from work, I have the services for SSH started, and I am using PuTty at work (it's on Win2K). I am trying to telnet to the IP of my computer, but I can't get logged into it. Is there something I'm missing? Does anyone know of a good tutorial to do this? Thanks in advance. From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Feb 16 16:39:56 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:39:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: remote login In-Reply-To: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.ne t> References: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <59505.207.177.227.29.1108571996.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Can you ssh into the machine from other machines on your LAN at home? That would help isolate the problem. I've got a RH8 and RH9 machine at home with SSH enabled. I can SSH into both of them on the LAN. I then have a Linksys 8 port router between the DSL modem and the LAN. I have port forwarding for SSH (port 22) set up to direct port 22 requests to the RH8 machine. I can access it from anywhere now using Tera Term SSH. Good luck! Harold > I am trying to access my linux box from work, I have the services for SSH > started, and I am using PuTty at work (it's on Win2K). I am trying to > telnet to the IP of my computer, but I can't get logged into it. Is there > something I'm missing? Does anyone know of a good tutorial to do this? > Thanks in advance. > -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Feb 16 17:25:56 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:25:56 -0600 Subject: remote login In-Reply-To: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20050216172556.GC23452@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:41:55AM -0500, arms780 at bellsouth.net wrote: > I am trying to access my linux box from work, I have the services > for SSH started, and I am using PuTty at work (it's on Win2K). I am > trying to telnet to the IP of my computer, but I can't get logged > into it. Is there something I'm missing? Does anyone know of a > good tutorial to do this? Thanks in advance. Do you have a hole in your firewall at home for port 22? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com What if God is asking _us_ for a sign? From mgalgoci at redhat.com Wed Feb 16 17:30:40 2005 From: mgalgoci at redhat.com (Matthew Galgoci) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:30:40 -0500 Subject: remote login In-Reply-To: <20050216172556.GC23452@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> <20050216172556.GC23452@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 10:41:55AM -0500, arms780 at bellsouth.net wrote: > > I am trying to access my linux box from work, I have the services > > for SSH started, and I am using PuTty at work (it's on Win2K). I am > > trying to telnet to the IP of my computer, but I can't get logged > > into it. Is there something I'm missing? Does anyone know of a > > good tutorial to do this? Thanks in advance. > > Do you have a hole in your firewall at home for port 22? Putty does both telnet and ssh protocols, and I seem to recall that it defaults to the telnet protocol first. Make sure you are really using ssh and not telnet. -- Matthew Galgoci System Administrator Red Hat, Inc 919.754.3700 x44155 From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 16 17:39:56 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:39:56 -0800 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4213856C.8000407@vitalstream.com> Graeme Nichols wrote: >> Yup. Sorry about that. I'm glad to hear you got it sorted out. I >> hadn't heard about the problems with parted. Sounds like it gets >> confused by head counts >15. Ick! >> >>> I'm working on trying to move from StarOffice 5.2 to OOo-1.1.2 >>> (StarOffice 5.2 will not run with the 2.6.9 kernel) by converting all >>> my templates and document files but the document conversion does not >>> work, 'missing file' is the error it throws up. I 'think' the problem >>> is old 1.1.1 stuff left on the HD. As soon as I get a chance I'll rpm >>> -e openoffice* and do an rpm -Uvh openoffice* so all the old stuff >>> will, hopefully, be erased. >> >> >> >> That's a possibility. To be honest, I haven't tried conversion of my >> old StarOffice stuff. > > > Thanks to rpm -q --filesbypkg openoffice.org I managed to locate the > 'setup' file I am instructed to run when I try and convert my files and > templates but running it doesn't fix anything so I converted all my > StarOffice 5.2 files and templates on my Windows install of OO and > copied them all across to the appropriate directories on FC2. Worked > fine. The question, I guess, is why has FC3 (and FC2 by the way) been > supplied with a broken OO? I fired up my Lindows CD and my Knoppix CD > and both the OO versions on them, 1.0 and 1.1 respectively, have the > document conversion working as expected. Ahhh.. the idiosyncrasies of > RedHat ... Can't speak to that. I've just imported the stuff when needed, I've not done a blanket conversion. >> At the office, I have three machines. The main machine is "prophead", >> which is quite old (believe it or not a P-III/866 with 512MB) and still >> runs FC1. I have requested a new machine, but haven't pushed the issue >> so far, but I'm getting to the point that I really need a better machine >> (I develop a LOT of software and it takes forever to compile stuff). >> >> Most of my docs are on prophead with OpenOffice 1.1.0. It reads the >> stuff I had from StarOffice without too many issues. When it gets >> replaced and sent to FC3 with OO 1.1.3, I may have problems. I'll worry >> about that later. > > > My FC3 only has OO 1.1.2 Yum will fix that. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fongc at smccd.net Wed Feb 16 19:45:36 2005 From: fongc at smccd.net (Corey Fong) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:45:36 -0800 Subject: playing audio CD ... WinXP OK, RHEL WS not ... until ... References: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <000c01c51460$5b8f48a0$67081aac@phoenix> I thought playing an audio CD was pretty straightforward ... if Windows can do it, then certainly Linux can too. But I ran into a difference ... thought I'd share the experience, and see if anyone on the list can explain. Situation. . Dell Optiplex280 . WindowsXP and RHEL WS v3update4 (dual-boot) . Boot WinXP ... Win Media Player plays an audio CD fine . Boot RHEL ... - sound detection works ... test sound plays - various Gnome alert sounds play => sound card works fine - data CD mounts, access is fine - audio CD is detected, gnome-cd automatically starts - no music - tried working with gnome-volume ... volume levels, record selector ... no success So, when in doubt ... think hardware :-). I opened the box ... no audio cable connecting the CD drive's audio out to the sound card's CD audio in. Get a cable ... audio CD on RHEL plays just fine. I am guessing that Win Media Player is getting the audio data from the CD drive, but the gnome-cd player merely controls the CD drive (play, stop, pause, etc) and lets the audio come out of the CD drive's audio out jack. Is this the right conclusion about gnome-cd? Are there other audio CD players for Linux that read the audio data , like Win Media Player seems to? Thanks and regards, Corey From scottb at bxwa.com Wed Feb 16 20:41:47 2005 From: scottb at bxwa.com (Scott Becker) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:41:47 -0800 Subject: playing audio CD ... WinXP OK, RHEL WS not ... until ... In-Reply-To: <000c01c51460$5b8f48a0$67081aac@phoenix> References: <20050216154155.OVUK2060.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> <000c01c51460$5b8f48a0$67081aac@phoenix> Message-ID: <4213B00B.5000404@bxwa.com> I concur with your conclusion. It would probably be a good improvement for gnome-cd to change the way it plays so it's digital all the way through. However, AFAIK, using the analog cable is the standard way of doing it. Windows 98 depends/depended on the analog cable and all new motherboards I've seen with built-in sound, all still have the connection for it. M$ may have actually came up with an improvement here. I don't play audio CDs myself, I rip-em and store the originals in a box in the gararge. :) I never upload them through, honest. Scott Becker Corey Fong wrote: >Is this the right conclusion about gnome-cd? >Are there other audio CD players for Linux that read the audio data , like >Win Media Player seems to? > >Thanks and regards, >Corey > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > > From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Feb 16 20:57:53 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:57:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: DVD Play Speed Message-ID: <33741.207.173.117.242.1108587473.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> RH v8, Intel system (on a slower AMD system this isn't an issue) If I play a DVD on my DVD drive (/dev/cdrom1), it's choppy and uneven whether I play it with gmplayer or ogle. If I dd if=/dev/dvd of=file.iso then play it using either, it plays nicely. Is there a problem with the IDE drivers? I have a scsi disk as the primary drive. So, I copied it to an IDE drive on the same system and it still played fine. Any suggestions might be useful, if I can understand them, or even implement them. Karl From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Feb 16 21:03:05 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:03:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: VNC In-Reply-To: <20050216034711.GA22831@cskk.homeip.net> References: <41F68484.3090208@vitalstream.com> <000601c5137d$03fe3bc0$ef01a8c0@pccat03> <20050216034711.GA22831@cskk.homeip.net> Message-ID: <33765.207.173.117.242.1108587785.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > On 17:40 15 Feb 2005, roland brouwers wrote: > | Is there a way to start VNC, without getting the desktop of Linux, but | direct the program you would like to execute. > > Sure. > Make a short shell script > > ~/.vnc/xstartup > > Put in it the commands you want to run. if you have that script, vncserver > runs _only_ that script. You're getting a full bloated desktop because that's what vncserver runs without that script (i.e. it tries to default to a "normal" desktop). > > See "man vncserver". > .vnc/xstartup is created by vncserver the first time you run it. Edit ~/.vnc/xstartup and comment out everything except something like this (commented out lines are different options I've tried): ## Red Hat Linux VNC session startup script #unset SESSION_MANAGER #exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc #exec gnome-session #exec gnome-wm #exec wmaker exec twm & exec uxterm -geometry 80x60 & #exec gnome-terminal --geometry 80x60 & exec mozilla --geometry 640x480 & HTH Karl > Cheers, > -- > Cameron Simpson DoD#743 > http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ > > The betas never stop at Microsoft. - news.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 21:04:14 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:04:14 -0800 Subject: DVD Play Speed In-Reply-To: <33741.207.173.117.242.1108587473.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <33741.207.173.117.242.1108587473.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0502161304303044f5@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:57:53 -0700 (MST), karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > RH v8, Intel system (on a slower AMD system this isn't an issue) > > If I play a DVD on my DVD drive (/dev/cdrom1), it's choppy and uneven > whether I play it with gmplayer or ogle. > > If I > > dd if=/dev/dvd of=file.iso > > then play it using either, it plays nicely. > > Is there a problem with the IDE drivers? I have a scsi disk as the primary > drive. So, I copied it to an IDE drive on the same system and it still > played fine. > > Any suggestions might be useful, if I can understand them, or even > implement them. > > Karl Karl, Is DMA enabled for the DVD? [root at Godzilla root]# hdparm /dev/hdd /dev/hdd: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument [root at Godzilla root]# If your DVD happens to be a slave device on an EIDE cable that has another active device that can slow you down also. I think this probably isn't a problem since you're using SCSI. Other possibilities (unlikely) might be that your EIDE controller is sharing an interrupt with some other device and that other device is doing strange things. 'cat /proc/interrupts' to take a quick look at that. It's unlikely since most systems do not share the EIDE interrupts with other devices. Hope this helps, Mark From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Feb 16 21:08:14 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:08:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: DVD Play Speed In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0502161304303044f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <33741.207.173.117.242.1108587473.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <5bdc1c8b0502161304303044f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33780.207.173.117.242.1108588094.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:57:53 -0700 (MST), karlp at ourldsfamily.com > wrote: >> RH v8, Intel system (on a slower AMD system this isn't an issue) >> >> If I play a DVD on my DVD drive (/dev/cdrom1), it's choppy and uneven >> whether I play it with gmplayer or ogle. >> >> If I >> >> dd if=/dev/dvd of=file.iso >> >> then play it using either, it plays nicely. >> >> Is there a problem with the IDE drivers? I have a scsi disk as the >> primary >> drive. So, I copied it to an IDE drive on the same system and it still >> played fine. >> >> Any suggestions might be useful, if I can understand them, or even >> implement them. >> >> Karl > > Karl, > Is DMA enabled for the DVD? > > [root at Godzilla root]# hdparm /dev/hdd > > /dev/hdd: > HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument > IO_support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq = 1 (on) > using_dma = 1 (on) > keepsettings = 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead = 256 (on) > HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument > [root at Godzilla root]# > > If your DVD happens to be a slave device on an EIDE cable that has > another active device that can slow you down also. I think this > probably isn't a problem since you're using SCSI. > > Other possibilities (unlikely) might be that your EIDE controller is > sharing an interrupt with some other device and that other device is > doing strange things. 'cat /proc/interrupts' to take a quick look at > that. It's unlikely since most systems do not share the EIDE > interrupts with other devices. > > Hope this helps, > Mark > Nope, DMA is off on that drive. I vaguely remember trying to turn it on some time back, but it didn't let me. I wonder if it being a slave on the IDE controller is causing everything I'm seeing. My primary is a RW CD drive, which I use a lot more, so switch them might not be a good idea.? Here's the output: root # hdparm /dev/dvd /dev/dvd: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq = 0 (off) using_dma = 0 (off) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 1 (on) readahead = 8 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument I see that the readahead is way lower than yours, too. Could this be the problem? Karl > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From gnichols at tpg.com.au Thu Feb 17 02:56:58 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:56:58 +1100 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <4213856C.8000407@vitalstream.com> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> <4213856C.8000407@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <421407FA.2020102@tpg.com.au> Rick Stevens wrote: > Graeme Nichols wrote: > >>> Yup. Sorry about that. I'm glad to hear you got it sorted out. I >>> hadn't heard about the problems with parted. Sounds like it gets >>> confused by head counts >15. Ick! >>> >>>> I'm working on trying to move from StarOffice 5.2 to OOo-1.1.2 >>>> (StarOffice 5.2 will not run with the 2.6.9 kernel) by converting >>>> all my templates and document files but the document conversion >>>> does not work, 'missing file' is the error it throws up. I 'think' >>>> the problem is old 1.1.1 stuff left on the HD. As soon as I get a >>>> chance I'll rpm -e openoffice* and do an rpm -Uvh openoffice* so >>>> all the old stuff will, hopefully, be erased. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> That's a possibility. To be honest, I haven't tried conversion of my >>> old StarOffice stuff. >> >> >> >> Thanks to rpm -q --filesbypkg openoffice.org I managed to locate the >> 'setup' file I am instructed to run when I try and convert my files >> and templates but running it doesn't fix anything so I converted all >> my StarOffice 5.2 files and templates on my Windows install of OO and >> copied them all across to the appropriate directories on FC2. Worked >> fine. The question, I guess, is why has FC3 (and FC2 by the way) been >> supplied with a broken OO? I fired up my Lindows CD and my Knoppix CD >> and both the OO versions on them, 1.0 and 1.1 respectively, have the >> document conversion working as expected. Ahhh.. the idiosyncrasies of >> RedHat ... > > > Can't speak to that. I've just imported the stuff when needed, I've not > done a blanket conversion. > >>> At the office, I have three machines. The main machine is "prophead", >>> which is quite old (believe it or not a P-III/866 with 512MB) and still >>> runs FC1. I have requested a new machine, but haven't pushed the issue >>> so far, but I'm getting to the point that I really need a better >>> machine >>> (I develop a LOT of software and it takes forever to compile stuff). >>> >>> Most of my docs are on prophead with OpenOffice 1.1.0. It reads the >>> stuff I had from StarOffice without too many issues. When it gets >>> replaced and sent to FC3 with OO 1.1.3, I may have problems. I'll >>> worry >>> about that later. >> >> >> >> My FC3 only has OO 1.1.2 > > > Yum will fix that. :-) Hi Rick, is there a difference in the databases, or whatever, that up2date and yum use? I ran up2date immediately after installing FC3 and there were only 4 updates available, can't remember what they were but I think they were libraries, and OOo 1.1.3 was not among them. I will try yum later when I have the time. My yum.conf was not updated at FC3 upgrade time but it would appear that its not necessary as it has variables for the version and release. Am I correct in assuming that yum.conf doesn't need updating for FC3? Thanks for your patience. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The number of arguments is unimportant unless some of them are correct. -- Ralph Hartley From John.Rushe at axa-tech.com Thu Feb 17 13:54:44 2005 From: John.Rushe at axa-tech.com (RUSHE John (AXA-TECH-UK)) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:54:44 -0000 Subject: RHEL Kickstart pre-install script Message-ID: I am trying to come up with a standard kickstart script for installing RHEL on all our (differing) servers. We have a mixture of kit, some with ide and some with scsi disks. In my %pre script, I can manage to determine how many ide or scsi disks there are in the system but I cannot find anyway to determine which device names have been allocated. Here is my script, so far.... #!/bin/sh #set -x num_scsi=0 num_ide=0 exec 3<&0 # save the current location of stdin exec 0< /proc/scsi/scsi # reassign latest kickstart to stdin while read Type SCSI DROSS # read contents of /proc/scsi/scsi do case $Type in Type:) if [ "${SCSI}" = "Direct-Access" ]; then num_scsi=`expr $num_scsi + 1` echo "Found SCSI Direct Access Device" fi ;; esac done echo "Found ${num_scsi} scsi disks..." # Determine number of IDE disks (if any) hds="" media="" for file in /proc/ide/h* do media=`cat $file/media` if [ $media == "disk" ]; then hds="$hds `basename $file`" fi done What I am trying to do is to get the kickstart to semi-intelligently auto-generate the partition information. For IDE this is pretty straight forward since two IDE disks *usually* equates to /dev/hda and /dev/hdb. Scsi is a little different in that hardware raid can confuse the issue (we have a COMPAQ ML370 for example and the disks appear as /dev/cissp/c0d0 etc). Is there anything during the kickstart install which will enable me to capture (within the pre-install script) the device names for the disk drives so that I can then generate the kickstart partitioning on the fly based on which physical disks are installed on the machine? I have tried trawling through /proc but so far no success... Cheers John ******************************************************************* This email originates from AXA Technology Services UK Limited (reg. no. 1854856) which has its registered office at 107 Cheapside, London EC2V 6DU, England. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this in error, you should not disseminate or copy this email. 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The AXA UK Plc Group accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ******************************************************************* From stuart at sjsears.com Thu Feb 17 15:27:11 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:27:11 +0000 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <421407FA.2020102@tpg.com.au> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> <4213856C.8000407@vitalstream.com> <421407FA.2020102@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <1108654031.6678.33.camel@server1.example.com> On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 02:56, Graeme Nichols wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > > Yum will fix that. :-) > > Hi Rick, is there a difference in the databases, or whatever, that > up2date and yum use? I ran up2date immediately after installing FC3 and > there were only 4 updates available, can't remember what they were but I > think they were libraries, and OOo 1.1.3 was not among them. I will try > yum later when I have the time. My yum.conf was not updated at FC3 > upgrade time but it would appear that its not necessary as it has > variables for the version and release. Am I correct in assuming that > yum.conf doesn't need updating for FC3? it depends on where you wish to get your packages from! I believe the default yum.conf (also read the files in /etc/yum.repo.d or was it repos.d? can't remember. one of them anyway!) uses mirror lists at redhat. In my experience, you cna achieve better performance by change this to point to a specific server, closer to your location. You can also add repos for third-party packagers, who will have software not available on the RH mirrors (or more recent versions, compiled wiht support for things that RH can't build against for legal reasons) common yum repositories for extra packages are http://dag.wieers.com http://freshrpms.net http://kde-redhat.sf.net if you visit those sites you can find information on what to add to your /etc/yum.conf (or the repos directory) to enable the repositories. they just happen to be the three that i use. Other common repos are http://www.fedora.us http://rpm.livna.org - specifically NVidia drivers for various kernels Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE RHCX The difference between this place and yogurt is that yogurt has a live culture. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 17 17:49:34 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:49:34 -0800 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <1108654031.6678.33.camel@server1.example.com> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> <4213856C.8000407@vitalstream.com> <421407FA.2020102@tpg.com.au> <1108654031.6678.33.camel@server1.example.com> Message-ID: <4214D92E.5060100@vitalstream.com> Stuart Sears wrote: > On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 02:56, Graeme Nichols wrote: > >>Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>>Yum will fix that. :-) >> >>Hi Rick, is there a difference in the databases, or whatever, that >>up2date and yum use? I ran up2date immediately after installing FC3 and >>there were only 4 updates available, can't remember what they were but I >>think they were libraries, and OOo 1.1.3 was not among them. I will try >>yum later when I have the time. My yum.conf was not updated at FC3 >>upgrade time but it would appear that its not necessary as it has >>variables for the version and release. Am I correct in assuming that >>yum.conf doesn't need updating for FC3? > > it depends on where you wish to get your packages from! > I believe the default yum.conf (also read the files in /etc/yum.repo.d > or was it repos.d? can't remember. one of them anyway!) uses mirror > lists at redhat. In my experience, you cna achieve better performance by > change this to point to a specific server, closer to your location. > You can also add repos for third-party packagers, who will have software > not available on the RH mirrors (or more recent versions, compiled wiht > support for things that RH can't build against for legal reasons) > common yum repositories for extra packages are > http://dag.wieers.com > http://freshrpms.net > http://kde-redhat.sf.net > > if you visit those sites you can find information on what to add to your > /etc/yum.conf (or the repos directory) to enable the repositories. > > they just happen to be the three that i use. > Other common repos are > http://www.fedora.us > http://rpm.livna.org - specifically NVidia drivers for various kernels I use the following FC3 /etc/yum.conf: [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=fedora-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 gpgcheck=1 [base] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base # The first line is the primary server, the remainder are mirrors... baseurl=http://download.fedoralegacy.org/fedora/$releasever/os/$basearch http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/$releasever/$basearch/os http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/os http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os [updates-released] name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates # The first line is the primary server, the remainder are mirrors... baseurl=http://download.fedoralegacy.org/fedora/$releasever/updates/$basearch http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/updates/$releasever/$basearch http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch #[updates-testing] #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From arms780 at bellsouth.net Thu Feb 17 18:30:01 2005 From: arms780 at bellsouth.net (arms780 at bellsouth.net) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:30:01 -0500 Subject: remote login Message-ID: <20050217183001.VEIW2048.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> I should have clarified this earlier. I am using Bellsouth DSL, with a Westell Wirespeed modem, an eth cable between the "router" and my eth card on my PC. Using IE in Windows, I was able to log into the router and set it up for IP passthrough. Now, I have been able to log into WinXP remotely fine, but I would rather play with Linux. As I've said, I have SSH services turned on in my System Settings, but I'm not sure if there is something else I need to set up in Linux. I just checked the version of PuTty that I use at work, and it does default to telnet and not SSH (didn't think to check that earlier). I can't try it now because Bellsouth dynamically assigns public IP's, so I don't know what the new IP is for my box. I've been using ipchicken.com to get my public IP, but is there a way to check that from the terminal? I know in WinXP you can use ipconfig at DOS, but I don't know what the Linux equivalant to that is. Thanks for the replies and help. From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Thu Feb 17 19:35:46 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:35:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: remote login In-Reply-To: <20050217183001.VEIW2048.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.ne t> References: <20050217183001.VEIW2048.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <34869.207.173.117.242.1108668946.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > I should have clarified this earlier. I am using Bellsouth DSL, with a > Westell Wirespeed modem, an eth cable between the "router" and my eth card > on my PC. Using IE in Windows, I was able to log into the router and set > it up for IP passthrough. Now, I have been able to log into WinXP > remotely fine, but I would rather play with Linux. > > As I've said, I have SSH services turned on in my System Settings, but I'm > not sure if there is something else I need to set up in Linux. > > I just checked the version of PuTty that I use at work, and it does > default to telnet and not SSH (didn't think to check that earlier). I > can't try it now because Bellsouth dynamically assigns public IP's, so I > don't know what the new IP is for my box. I've been using ipchicken.com > to get my public IP, but is there a way to check that from the terminal? > I know in WinXP you can use ipconfig at DOS, but I don't know what the > Linux equivalant to that is. ifconfig in all Unixes. The name of the adapter changes, but on Linux it's most likely eth0. A typical output from ipconfig is: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:BF:A6:70 inet addr:192.168.1.9 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:3127576 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1449963 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:3679469150 (3509.0 Mb) TX bytes:264559234 (252.3 Mb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0x4000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:199 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:199 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:12176 (11.8 Kb) TX bytes:12176 (11.8 Kb) > > Thanks for the replies and help. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 17 19:49:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:49:47 -0800 Subject: remote login In-Reply-To: <20050217183001.VEIW2048.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <20050217183001.VEIW2048.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4214F55B.308@vitalstream.com> arms780 at bellsouth.net wrote: > I should have clarified this earlier. I am using Bellsouth DSL, with a Westell Wirespeed modem, an eth cable between the "router" and my eth card on my PC. Using IE in Windows, I was able to log into the router and set it up for IP passthrough. Now, I have been able to log into WinXP remotely fine, but I would rather play with Linux. > > As I've said, I have SSH services turned on in my System Settings, but I'm not sure if there is something else I need to set up in Linux. > > I just checked the version of PuTty that I use at work, and it does default to telnet and not SSH (didn't think to check that earlier). I can't try it now because Bellsouth dynamically assigns public IP's, so I don't know what the new IP is for my box. I've been using ipchicken.com to get my public IP, but is there a way to check that from the terminal? I know in WinXP you can use ipconfig at DOS, but I don't know what the Linux equivalant to that is. Try this command: ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr:" | awk 'BEGIN{FS=":| *"}{print $4}' Or you can use the tools on my website: http://www.rhil.net/fancywhatip.php http://www.rhil.net/whatip.php which will show you the IP address you're on as seen by the Internet. That's useful if you're behind a router or NAT system. You can script that by using lynx: lynx --dump http://www.rhil.net/whatip.php | \ awk 'BEGIN{FS=" *"}{print $2}' By the way, this list prefers bottom posting with your mail client set to post messages that are plain text and 72-characters per line. And now you know entirely too much! Heheheheheh! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Do you suffer from long-term memory loss?" "I don't remember" - - -- Chumbawumba, "Amnesia" (TubThumping) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From randy1200 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 22:05:46 2005 From: randy1200 at yahoo.com (Bone Randy) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:05:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Red Hat Desktop Vs. Enterprise 3 WS Message-ID: <20050217220546.55248.qmail@web54302.mail.yahoo.com> We have a Linux application that claims RH Enterprise 3 WS is an approved OS. When we install on Enterprise 3 WS, it works just fine. Someone in the organization took our second development PC, and installed RH Desktop (instead of the approved WS version). He insists that Desktop is the exact same operating system as Enterprise 3 WS. The application warned us during installation that Desktop is not a supported operating system, but gave the option to continue. The application fails to communicate with our VME rack over ethernet. The first seat, installed on WS, works just fine. In general, can someone tell me the differences between Red Hat Desktop, and Red Hat Enterprise 3 WS? Or maybe just point me toward a document that explains the differences? My guess is that it's not so much a difference in files available, but rather, a difference in the way that services are started. Thanks, Randy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From camellia888 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 17 22:15:13 2005 From: camellia888 at yahoo.com (miao huijie) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:15:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 Message-ID: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I am trying to install gscanbus-0.7.1 on Fedora core 3. The Kernel version is Fedora2.6.9-1.667. And the gcc version is 3.4.2. "./configure" went through well. But "make" gave errors and failed. Following is the message from "make" : gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c fatal.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c debug.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c raw1394util.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c simpleavc.c simpleavc.c: In function `send_avc_command': simpleavc.c:113: warning: integer constant is too large for "long" type simpleavc.c: In function `send_avc_command_block': simpleavc.c:130: warning: integer constant is too large for "long" type gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c decodeselfid.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c topologyTree.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c rominfo.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c topologyMap.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c menues.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c icons.c gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -c gscanbus.c gscanbus.c:112: error: missing terminating " character gscanbus.c:114: error: `version' undeclared here (not in a function) gscanbus.c:114: error: syntax error before "that" gscanbus.c:115: error: stray '\' in program gscanbus.c:115: error: missing terminating " character gscanbus.c:117: error: missing terminating " character gscanbus.c:119: error: missing terminating ' character gscanbus.c:143: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration gscanbus.c:143: error: conflicting types for 'gdk_gc_set_foreground' /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdk.h:416: error: previous declaration of 'gdk_gc_set_foreground' was here gscanbus.c:143: error: conflicting types for 'gdk_gc_set_foreground' /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdk.h:416: error: previous declaration of 'gdk_gc_set_foreground' was here gscanbus.c:143: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gscanbus.c:144: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration gscanbus.c:144: error: conflicting types for 'gdk_draw_line' /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdk.h:664: error: previous declaration of 'gdk_draw_line' was here gscanbus.c:144: error: conflicting types for 'gdk_draw_line' /usr/include/gtk-1.2/gdk/gdk.h:664: error: previous declaration of 'gdk_draw_line' was here gscanbus.c:144: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gscanbus.c:145: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration gscanbus.c:145: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gscanbus.c:146: error: syntax error before '}' token gscanbus.c: In function `main': gscanbus.c:1089: error: `not_loaded' undeclared (first use in this function) gscanbus.c:1089: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gscanbus.c:1089: error: for each function it appears in.) make: *** [gscanbus.o] Error 1 Anyone can help? Thanks a lot! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From gnichols at tpg.com.au Thu Feb 17 23:59:40 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:59:40 +1100 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <1108654031.6678.33.camel@server1.example.com> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> <4213856C.8000407@vitalstream.com> <421407FA.2020102@tpg.com.au> <1108654031.6678.33.camel@server1.example.com> Message-ID: <42152FEC.9020505@tpg.com.au> Stuart Sears wrote: >On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 02:56, Graeme Nichols wrote: > > >>Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> > > > >>>Yum will fix that. :-) >>> >>> >>Hi Rick, is there a difference in the databases, or whatever, that >>up2date and yum use? I ran up2date immediately after installing FC3 and >>there were only 4 updates available, can't remember what they were but I >>think they were libraries, and OOo 1.1.3 was not among them. I will try >>yum later when I have the time. My yum.conf was not updated at FC3 >>upgrade time but it would appear that its not necessary as it has >>variables for the version and release. Am I correct in assuming that >>yum.conf doesn't need updating for FC3? >> >> >it depends on where you wish to get your packages from! >I believe the default yum.conf (also read the files in /etc/yum.repo.d >or was it repos.d? can't remember. one of them anyway!) uses mirror >lists at redhat. In my experience, you cna achieve better performance by >change this to point to a specific server, closer to your location. >You can also add repos for third-party packagers, who will have software >not available on the RH mirrors (or more recent versions, compiled wiht >support for things that RH can't build against for legal reasons) >common yum repositories for extra packages are >http://dag.wieers.com >http://freshrpms.net >http://kde-redhat.sf.net > >if you visit those sites you can find information on what to add to your >/etc/yum.conf (or the repos directory) to enable the repositories. > >they just happen to be the three that i use. >Other common repos are >http://www.fedora.us >http://rpm.livna.org - specifically NVidia drivers for various kernels > > >Stuart > > Hello Stuart, thank you very much for the information. It is pertinent to my situation. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Vitamin C deficiency is apauling. From gnichols at tpg.com.au Fri Feb 18 00:02:04 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:02:04 +1100 Subject: More FC3 install problems 'Assertion (heads >0)' Workaround In-Reply-To: <4214D92E.5060100@vitalstream.com> References: <4205A4E5.7040803@tpg.com.au> <420D85FA.2000401@tpg.com.au> <4210F48A.9070300@vitalstream.com> <42115DCB.9030803@tpg.com.au> <42124A9D.2010202@vitalstream.com> <4212D186.7030209@tpg.com.au> <4213856C.8000407@vitalstream.com> <421407FA.2020102@tpg.com.au> <1108654031.6678.33.camel@server1.example.com> <4214D92E.5060100@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4215307C.7030608@tpg.com.au> Rick Stevens wrote: > Stuart Sears wrote: > >> On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 02:56, Graeme Nichols wrote: >> >>> Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Yum will fix that. :-) >>> >>> >>> Hi Rick, is there a difference in the databases, or whatever, that >>> up2date and yum use? I ran up2date immediately after installing FC3 >>> and there were only 4 updates available, can't remember what they >>> were but I think they were libraries, and OOo 1.1.3 was not among >>> them. I will try yum later when I have the time. My yum.conf was not >>> updated at FC3 upgrade time but it would appear that its not >>> necessary as it has variables for the version and release. Am I >>> correct in assuming that yum.conf doesn't need updating for FC3? >> >> >> it depends on where you wish to get your packages from! >> I believe the default yum.conf (also read the files in /etc/yum.repo.d >> or was it repos.d? can't remember. one of them anyway!) uses mirror >> lists at redhat. In my experience, you cna achieve better performance by >> change this to point to a specific server, closer to your location. >> You can also add repos for third-party packagers, who will have software >> not available on the RH mirrors (or more recent versions, compiled wiht >> support for things that RH can't build against for legal reasons) >> common yum repositories for extra packages are >> http://dag.wieers.com >> http://freshrpms.net >> http://kde-redhat.sf.net >> >> if you visit those sites you can find information on what to add to your >> /etc/yum.conf (or the repos directory) to enable the repositories. >> >> they just happen to be the three that i use. >> Other common repos are http://www.fedora.us >> http://rpm.livna.org - specifically NVidia drivers for various kernels > > > I use the following FC3 /etc/yum.conf: > > [main] > cachedir=/var/cache/yum > debuglevel=2 > logfile=/var/log/yum.log > pkgpolicy=newest > distroverpkg=fedora-release > tolerant=1 > exactarch=1 > gpgcheck=1 > > > [base] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base > # The first line is the primary server, the remainder are mirrors... > baseurl=http://download.fedoralegacy.org/fedora/$releasever/os/$basearch > http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/$releasever/$basearch/os > http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/os > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os > > > > [updates-released] > name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Released Updates > # The first line is the primary server, the remainder are mirrors... > baseurl=http://download.fedoralegacy.org/fedora/$releasever/updates/$basearch > > > http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch > http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/updates/$releasever/$basearch > > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/$releasever/$basearch > > > > #[updates-testing] > #name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Unreleased Updates > #baseurl=http://fedora.redhat.com/updates/testing/fedora-core-$releasever Thank you Rick, much appreciated. I will compare it against mine, which I think I got from you originally anyway :-) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Vitamin C deficiency is apauling. From jimhayward at earthlink.net Fri Feb 18 03:42:39 2005 From: jimhayward at earthlink.net (Jim Hayward) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:42:39 -0800 Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 In-Reply-To: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1108698159.5454.22.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 14:15 -0800, miao huijie wrote: > gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" > -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 > -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 > -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. > -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 > -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 > -c gscanbus.c > gscanbus.c:112: error: missing terminating " character > gscanbus.c:114: error: `version' undeclared here (not > in a function) > gscanbus.c:114: error: syntax error before "that" > gscanbus.c:115: error: stray '\' in program > gscanbus.c:115: error: missing terminating " character > gscanbus.c:117: error: missing terminating " character > gscanbus.c:119: error: missing terminating ' character > gscanbus.c:143: warning: parameter names (without > types) in function declaration This is an error in the program source code. This program is not GCC >= 3.1.x compliant. The first error above at line 112 is caused by the program using multi-line string literals. These were depreciated in GCC version 3.0 and support was removed in GCC 3.1. This project does not appear to be in active development. The last release is dated July 11, 2001. While the errors could be corrected, you are probably going to be better off looking for an active project that does the same thing. This project is also using the essentially obsolete GTK 1.2.x libraries. Regards, Jim H -- Jim Hayward GPG Key available at: http://keyserver.noreply.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.noreply.org 0x85A92DCC GPG Fingerprint: 1AA9 AEC9 BFDF FF7A E4F8 90C7 4947 3A41 85A9 2DCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 03:49:41 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:49:41 -0800 Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 In-Reply-To: <1108698159.5454.22.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> References: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> <1108698159.5454.22.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0502171949476a0ee7@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:42:39 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote: > On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 14:15 -0800, miao huijie wrote: > > gcc -DPACKAGE=\"gscanbus\" -DVERSION=\"0.7.1\" > > -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 > > -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 > > -DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -I. > > -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 > > -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 > > -c gscanbus.c > > gscanbus.c:112: error: missing terminating " character > > gscanbus.c:114: error: `version' undeclared here (not > > in a function) > > gscanbus.c:114: error: syntax error before "that" > > gscanbus.c:115: error: stray '\' in program > > gscanbus.c:115: error: missing terminating " character > > gscanbus.c:117: error: missing terminating " character > > gscanbus.c:119: error: missing terminating ' character > > gscanbus.c:143: warning: parameter names (without > > types) in function declaration > > This is an error in the program source code. This program is not GCC >= > 3.1.x compliant. The first error above at line 112 is caused by the > program using multi-line string literals. These were depreciated in GCC > version 3.0 and support was removed in GCC 3.1. > > This project does not appear to be in active development. The last > release is dated July 11, 2001. While the errors could be corrected, you > are probably going to be better off looking for an active project that > does the same thing. This project is also using the essentially obsolete > GTK 1.2.x libraries. > > Regards, > Jim H Hi, I was around 1394 development when this got done. You're correct that the project probably hasn't been touched in a long time. However there are no other progams under Linux that do anything like that program. It's probably best to contact the author and see if he'll help and possibly to look for someone to take it over. I was on the 1394-devel list from August 1999 until last October. Cheers, Mark > From jimhayward at earthlink.net Fri Feb 18 04:09:29 2005 From: jimhayward at earthlink.net (Jim Hayward) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:09:29 -0800 Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0502171949476a0ee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> <1108698159.5454.22.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0502171949476a0ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1108699769.5454.40.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 19:49 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > I was around 1394 development when this got done. You're correct > that the project probably hasn't been touched in a long time. However > there are no other progams under Linux that do anything like that > program. Hmm, thats to bad if the program works well that there isn't a current replacement. > It's probably best to contact the author and see if he'll > help and possibly to look for someone to take it over. I'm not familiar with the source code at all. I just looked at what was causing the compile errors, but porting the program to GTK 2.x would probably take some time do too. When I get a chance I'll take a look at it and if it doesn't require a lot of time (it doesn't appear that it probably would), I'll get it at least compile and I'll post a patch. Regards, Jim H -- Jim Hayward GPG Key available at: http://keyserver.noreply.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.noreply.org 0x85A92DCC GPG Fingerprint: 1AA9 AEC9 BFDF FF7A E4F8 90C7 4947 3A41 85A9 2DCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 04:32:53 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:32:53 -0800 Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 In-Reply-To: <1108699769.5454.40.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> References: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> <1108698159.5454.22.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0502171949476a0ee7@mail.gmail.com> <1108699769.5454.40.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05021720321473bbfe@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:09:29 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote: > On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 19:49 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > I was around 1394 development when this got done. You're correct > > that the project probably hasn't been touched in a long time. However > > there are no other progams under Linux that do anything like that > > program. > > Hmm, thats to bad if the program works well that there isn't a current > replacement. Well, I think that the code is fine for when it was written. It's our collective choice to move forward with new C compilers. This is what happens when we make choices like this. Pretty much the same thing with DOS programs, etc. That said I have it running on my FC2 system so I don't think there *has* to be any magic about this. This machine is FC2 and then updated with the PlanetCCRMA flow: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ Fernando supplies gscanbus and it works here with my 1394 drive which I was just using a few minutes ago with Muse, Ardour, Jack and LinuxSampler > > > It's probably best to contact the author and see if he'll > > help and possibly to look for someone to take it over. > > I'm not familiar with the source code at all. I just looked at what was > causing the compile errors, but porting the program to GTK 2.x would > probably take some time do too. When I get a chance I'll take a look at > it and if it doesn't require a lot of time (it doesn't appear that it > probably would), I'll get it at least compile and I'll post a patch. Oh, doing a port would be a really big job I think. Go with the Planet. Much easier! - Mark From tonymoey at linuxmail.org Fri Feb 18 04:33:59 2005 From: tonymoey at linuxmail.org (moey tony) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:33:59 +0800 Subject: playing audio CD ... Message-ID: <20050218043359.B02F623CFA@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:45:36 -0800 > From: "Corey Fong" > Subject: playing audio CD ... WinXP OK, RHEL WS not ... until ... > To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" > > Message-ID: <000c01c51460$5b8f48a0$67081aac at phoenix> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I thought playing an audio CD was pretty straightforward ... if Windows can > do it, then certainly Linux can too. my guess is you did not enable digital audio playback.... -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze From jimhayward at earthlink.net Fri Feb 18 04:53:56 2005 From: jimhayward at earthlink.net (Jim Hayward) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:53:56 -0800 Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05021720321473bbfe@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> <1108698159.5454.22.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0502171949476a0ee7@mail.gmail.com> <1108699769.5454.40.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b05021720321473bbfe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1108702436.5454.48.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 20:32 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > That said I have it running on my FC2 system so I don't think there > *has* to be any magic about this. No magic indeed. The fix is simple. Except for two uses of multi-line string literals the program compiles fine. I don't know if it runs under FC3. I don't have an iee1394 controller. The SRPM at the link you posted will recompile for FC3. It contains essentially the same patch I created, except I fixed one additional warning when I was looking at the errors. Regards, Jim H -- Jim Hayward GPG Key available at: http://keyserver.noreply.org gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.noreply.org 0x85A92DCC GPG Fingerprint: 1AA9 AEC9 BFDF FF7A E4F8 90C7 4947 3A41 85A9 2DCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 05:06:17 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:06:17 -0800 Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 In-Reply-To: <1108702436.5454.48.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> References: <20050217221513.89824.qmail@web50002.mail.yahoo.com> <1108698159.5454.22.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b0502171949476a0ee7@mail.gmail.com> <1108699769.5454.40.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> <5bdc1c8b05021720321473bbfe@mail.gmail.com> <1108702436.5454.48.camel@garfield.linux.localdomain> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05021721065468aad5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:53:56 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote: > On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 20:32 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > That said I have it running on my FC2 system so I don't think there > > *has* to be any magic about this. > > No magic indeed. The fix is simple. Except for two uses of multi-line > string literals the program compiles fine. I don't know if it runs under > FC3. I don't have an iee1394 controller. > > The SRPM at the link you posted will recompile for FC3. It contains > essentially the same patch I created, except I fixed one additional > warning when I was looking at the errors. > > Regards, > Jim H Cool. Glad you got that far. gscanbus is a nice little program. cheers, Mark From John.Rushe at axa-tech.com Fri Feb 18 13:17:50 2005 From: John.Rushe at axa-tech.com (RUSHE John (AXA-TECH-UK)) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:17:50 -0000 Subject: /proc file system Message-ID: Does anybody know if the /proc filesystem contains entries anywhere which display which scsi ad ide devices have been assigned in Linux? I am looking for something similar to: Scsi --> /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd IDE --> /dev/hda, /dev/hdb Ideally, I would like to be able to pick this info up during a Linux install via a kick start %pre script. I know that /proc contains the scsi/scsi info but it doesn't actually specify the device allocation, just the device type... Any suggestions, ideas would be very welcome.... ******************************************************************* This email originates from AXA Technology Services UK Limited (reg. no. 1854856) which has its registered office at 107 Cheapside, London EC2V 6DU, England. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this in error, you should not disseminate or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. Please also note that any opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The AXA UK Plc Group. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, or error free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, late in arriving or incomplete as a result of the transmission process. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of email transmission. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for viruses. The AXA UK Plc Group accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ******************************************************************* From mikerault at yahoo.com Fri Feb 18 13:46:30 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:46:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: /proc file system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050218134630.42185.qmail@web12306.mail.yahoo.com> Usually I grep this from the dmesg command. Mike --- "RUSHE John (AXA-TECH-UK)" wrote: > Does anybody know if the /proc filesystem contains > entries anywhere > which display which scsi ad ide devices have been > assigned in Linux? I > am looking for something similar to: > > Scsi --> /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc, /dev/sdd > > IDE --> /dev/hda, /dev/hdb > > Ideally, I would like to be able to pick this info > up during a Linux > install via a kick start %pre script. I know that > /proc contains the > scsi/scsi info but it doesn't actually specify the > device allocation, > just the device type... > > Any suggestions, ideas would be very welcome.... > > > ******************************************************************* > This email originates from AXA Technology Services > UK > Limited (reg. no. 1854856) which has its registered > office > at 107 Cheapside, London EC2V 6DU, England. > > This message and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended solely for the individual > or > entity to whom they are addressed. If you have > received this in error, you should not disseminate > or > copy this email. Please notify the sender > immediately > and delete this email from your system. > > Please also note that any opinions presented in this > > email are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of The AXA UK Plc Group. > > Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be > secure, > or error free as information could be intercepted, > corrupted, lost, destroyed, late in arriving or > incomplete > as a result of the transmission process. The sender > > therefore does not accept liability for any errors > or > omissions in the contents of this message which > arise > as a result of email transmission. > > Finally, the recipient should check this email and > any > attachments for viruses. The AXA UK Plc Group > accept no liability for any damage caused by any > virus transmitted by this email. > ******************************************************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > ===== Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Feb 18 14:17:15 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:17:15 -0500 Subject: /proc file system In-Reply-To: ; from John.Rushe@axa-tech.com on Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:17:50PM -0000 References: Message-ID: <20050218091715.A18475@redline.comcast.net> > Any suggestions, ideas would be very welcome.... Get rid of all the verbiage being sent with your signature. Because it's being sent to a public email list, the confidentiality notice is completely, legally sundered (rendered meaningless). Why? Anyone accused of violating it can show that its put on all email even those published to the world and is therefore no indication at all of confidentiality. By using it inappropriately (and stupidly) your company has lost its protection. As for the rest of the verbiage anyone who doesn't already know all of those things isn't going to be informed by your boilerplate. Its useless. The only message it sends effectively is a derogatory one about the company that sends it. > > > ******************************************************************* > This email originates from AXA Technology Services UK > Limited (reg. no. 1854856) which has its registered office > at 107 Cheapside, London EC2V 6DU, England. > > This message and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended solely for the individual or > entity to whom they are addressed. If you have > received this in error, you should not disseminate or > copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately > and delete this email from your system. > > Please also note that any opinions presented in this > email are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of The AXA UK Plc Group. > > Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, > or error free as information could be intercepted, > corrupted, lost, destroyed, late in arriving or incomplete > as a result of the transmission process. The sender > therefore does not accept liability for any errors or > omissions in the contents of this message which arise > as a result of email transmission. > Finally, the recipient should check this email and any > attachments for viruses. The AXA UK Plc Group > accept no liability for any damage caused by any > virus transmitted by this email. Legally, denying liability has about as much effect in court as spitting into the wind. Any party recklessly or knowingly distributing a dangerous or harmful item is liable for their actions, regardless of any notification denying liability. -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From John.Rushe at axa-tech.com Fri Feb 18 14:23:41 2005 From: John.Rushe at axa-tech.com (RUSHE John (AXA-TECH-UK)) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:23:41 -0000 Subject: /proc file system Message-ID: Jeff, we've had this before but thanks for taking the time to remind everyone. However, this is a Corporate email address and as such I personally cannot turn off the confidentiality notice. My best advice to you is to ignore the verbiage at the end of my email, it is not mandatory to read through it after all... -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kinz Sent: 18 February 2005 14:17 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: /proc file system > Any suggestions, ideas would be very welcome.... Get rid of all the verbiage being sent with your signature. Because it's being sent to a public email list, the confidentiality notice is completely, legally sundered (rendered meaningless). Why? Anyone accused of violating it can show that its put on all email even those published to the world and is therefore no indication at all of confidentiality. By using it inappropriately (and stupidly) your company has lost its protection. As for the rest of the verbiage anyone who doesn't already know all of those things isn't going to be informed by your boilerplate. Its useless. The only message it sends effectively is a derogatory one about the company that sends it. > > > ******************************************************************* > This email originates from AXA Technology Services UK > Limited (reg. no. 1854856) which has its registered office > at 107 Cheapside, London EC2V 6DU, England. > > This message and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended solely for the individual or > entity to whom they are addressed. If you have > received this in error, you should not disseminate or > copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately > and delete this email from your system. > > Please also note that any opinions presented in this > email are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of The AXA UK Plc Group. > > Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, > or error free as information could be intercepted, > corrupted, lost, destroyed, late in arriving or incomplete > as a result of the transmission process. The sender > therefore does not accept liability for any errors or > omissions in the contents of this message which arise > as a result of email transmission. > Finally, the recipient should check this email and any > attachments for viruses. The AXA UK Plc Group > accept no liability for any damage caused by any > virus transmitted by this email. Legally, denying liability has about as much effect in court as spitting into the wind. Any party recklessly or knowingly distributing a dangerous or harmful item is liable for their actions, regardless of any notification denying liability. -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From jkinz at kinz.org Fri Feb 18 14:51:02 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:51:02 -0500 Subject: /proc file system In-Reply-To: ; from John.Rushe@axa-tech.com on Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 02:23:41PM -0000 References: Message-ID: <20050218095102.B18475@redline.comcast.net> On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 02:23:41PM -0000, RUSHE John (AXA-TECH-UK) wrote: > Jeff, we've had this before but thanks for taking the time to remind > everyone. However, this is a Corporate email address and as such I > personally cannot turn off the confidentiality notice. Then please have the matter addressed and corrected internally. Your company is losing the desired legal protection, not gaining any. In the mean time please post to the list from a different email address. Would you like a gmail account? > ignore the verbiage at the end of my email, it is not > mandatory to read through it after all... But it does occupy space in the archives and slow down searches and slow down the email list, but its not your money or time so I guess its OK. > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kinz > Sent: 18 February 2005 14:17 > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: /proc file system > > > Any suggestions, ideas would be very welcome.... > > Get rid of all the verbiage being sent with your signature. > > Because it's being sent to a public email list, the confidentiality > notice is completely, legally sundered (rendered meaningless). > > Why? > > Anyone accused of violating it can show that it is on all email even > those published to the world and is therefore no indication at all of > confidentiality. By using it inappropriately (and stupidly) your > company has lost its protection. > > As for the rest of the verbiage anyone who doesn't already know all of > those things isn't going to be informed by your boilerplate. Its > useless. > > The only message it sends effectively is a derogatory one about the > company that sends it. > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > This email originates from AXA Technology Services UK > > Limited (reg. no. 1854856) which has its registered office > > at 107 Cheapside, London EC2V 6DU, England. > > > > This message and any files transmitted with it are > > confidential and intended solely for the individual or > > entity to whom they are addressed. If you have > > received this in error, you should not disseminate or > > copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately > > and delete this email from your system. > > > > Please also note that any opinions presented in this > > email are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily represent those of The AXA UK Plc Group. > > > > Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, > > or error free as information could be intercepted, > > corrupted, lost, destroyed, late in arriving or incomplete > > as a result of the transmission process. The sender > > therefore does not accept liability for any errors or > > omissions in the contents of this message which arise > > as a result of email transmission. > > > Finally, the recipient should check this email and any > > attachments for viruses. The AXA UK Plc Group > > accept no liability for any damage caused by any > > virus transmitted by this email. > > Legally, denying liability has about as much effect in court as spitting > into the wind. Any party recklessly or knowingly distributing a > dangerous or harmful item is liable for their actions, regardless of any > notification denying liability. -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From CCall at madentech.com Fri Feb 18 15:35:59 2005 From: CCall at madentech.com (Christian Call) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:35:59 -0500 Subject: Can't get X working on new install Message-ID: <51F5B55D04F3EA4591451D3DF39E4AF30845C7@hqmsex01.madentech.com> I just installed Red Hat Advanced Server 2.1 on a machine that has a SiS 661FX-series video chip set in it. Unfortunately, I can't get X to work. No matter what SiS driver I choose in the Xconfigurator, I always get a message saying that there was a problem with my X configuration. Is there a way to get AS 2.1 to work with this video driver? Thanks for any help... -- Chris From camellia888 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 18 17:11:31 2005 From: camellia888 at yahoo.com (miao huijie) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:11:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: gscanbus-0.7.1 In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05021720321473bbfe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050218171131.34124.qmail@web50007.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:09:29 -0800, Jim Hayward > wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 19:49 -0800, Mark Knecht > wrote: > > > I was around 1394 development when this got > done. You're correct > > > that the project probably hasn't been touched in > a long time. However > > > there are no other progams under Linux that do > anything like that > > > program. > > > > Hmm, thats to bad if the program works well that > there isn't a current > > replacement. > > Well, I think that the code is fine for when it was > written. It's our > collective choice to move forward with new C > compilers. This is what > happens when we make choices like this. Pretty much > the same thing > with DOS programs, etc. > > That said I have it running on my FC2 system so I > don't think there > *has* to be any magic about this. This machine is > FC2 and then updated > with the PlanetCCRMA flow: > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ Thank you very much. It also worked on my FC3. > > Fernando supplies gscanbus and it works here with my > 1394 drive which > I was just using a few minutes ago with Muse, > Ardour, Jack and > LinuxSampler > > > > > > It's probably best to contact the author and see > if he'll > > > help and possibly to look for someone to take it > over. > > > > I'm not familiar with the source code at all. I > just looked at what was > > causing the compile errors, but porting the > program to GTK 2.x would > > probably take some time do too. When I get a > chance I'll take a look at > > it and if it doesn't require a lot of time (it > doesn't appear that it > > probably would), I'll get it at least compile and > I'll post a patch. > > Oh, doing a port would be a really big job I think. > Go with the > Planet. Much easier! > > - Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From jglueckstein at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 03:35:25 2005 From: jglueckstein at yahoo.com (Jon Glueckstein) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:35:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X Message-ID: <20050219033525.72629.qmail@web60307.mail.yahoo.com> Hello listers, Sorry to be posting Fedora questions in the Red Hat area. I have a Compaq Presario 2100us laptop that dual boots XP and Fedora. I had Fedora Core 1 working just the way I wanted, so I figured it was time for an upgrade! The upgrade went very smoothly. The first thing I tried to do was boot XP and it worked fine. Then I tried to boot Fedora Core 3 and it hung when it tried to start the red hat graphical boot. I removed the rhgb from the kernel line in Grub and tried again. It booted normally, all services came up including my wireless card! When it detected new hardware, it found my graphics card, and I told it to configure it. But then when it went to the graphical login screen, it hung in the same way. So, this time I changed the Grub kernel line to skip rhgb and go to runlevel 3. Booted up fine. I was able to log in. But startx caused the computer to hang in the same way. Right now, I'm out of ideas. Can anybody help? Thanks, Jon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From micros50 at computer.net Sat Feb 19 07:20:58 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 02:20:58 -0500 Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X In-Reply-To: <20050219033525.72629.qmail@web60307.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050219033525.72629.qmail@web60307.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1108797658.9747.2.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Yes, maybe we can help if you help us. What kind of system are you installing. What type of graphics adapter and moniter. Toss us some details man and we'll give it our best. On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 22:35, Jon Glueckstein wrote: > Hello listers, > > Sorry to be posting Fedora questions in the Red Hat > area. > > I have a Compaq Presario 2100us laptop that dual boots > XP and Fedora. I had Fedora Core 1 working just the > way I wanted, so I figured it was time for an upgrade! > > The upgrade went very smoothly. The first thing I > tried to do was boot XP and it worked fine. Then I > tried to boot Fedora Core 3 and it hung when it tried > to start the red hat graphical boot. > > I removed the rhgb from the kernel line in Grub and > tried again. It booted normally, all services came up > including my wireless card! When it detected new > hardware, it found my graphics card, and I told it to > configure it. But then when it went to the graphical > login screen, it hung in the same way. > > So, this time I changed the Grub kernel line to skip > rhgb and go to runlevel 3. Booted up fine. I was > able to log in. But startx caused the computer to > hang in the same way. > > Right now, I'm out of ideas. Can anybody help? > > Thanks, > Jon > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From jglueckstein at yahoo.com Sat Feb 19 14:40:29 2005 From: jglueckstein at yahoo.com (Jon Glueckstein) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 06:40:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X In-Reply-To: <1108797658.9747.2.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: <20050219144029.46093.qmail@web60309.mail.yahoo.com> --- mylar wrote: > Yes, maybe we can help if you help us. What kind of > system are you > installing. What type of graphics adapter and > moniter. Toss us some > details man and we'll give it our best. > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 22:35, Jon Glueckstein wrote: > > Hello listers, > > > > Sorry to be posting Fedora questions in the Red > Hat > > area. > > > > I have a Compaq Presario 2100us laptop that dual > boots > > XP and Fedora. I had Fedora Core 1 working just > the > > way I wanted, so I figured it was time for an > upgrade! > > > > The upgrade went very smoothly. The first thing I > > tried to do was boot XP and it worked fine. Then > I > > tried to boot Fedora Core 3 and it hung when it > tried > > to start the red hat graphical boot. > > > > I removed the rhgb from the kernel line in Grub > and > > tried again. It booted normally, all services > came up > > including my wireless card! When it detected new > > hardware, it found my graphics card, and I told it > to > > configure it. But then when it went to the > graphical > > login screen, it hung in the same way. > > > > So, this time I changed the Grub kernel line to > skip > > rhgb and go to runlevel 3. Booted up fine. I was > > able to log in. But startx caused the computer to > > hang in the same way. > > > > Right now, I'm out of ideas. Can anybody help? > > > > Thanks, > > Jon > > Here are some more details: I was using Fedora Core 1. I upgraded to Fedora Core 3 using the iso images I downloaded. Upgraded, not clean install. Everything appears to work fine except for X. My laptop is a Compaq Presario 2100us. Processor: Intel Celeron Processor - 1.6 GHz Cache: 128 KB (L2) Memory: 256 MB DDR SDRAM (1 x 256 MB) at 266 MHz Video Graphics: ATI MOBILITY RADEON AGP 4X and 3D architecture Video Memory: 64 MB DDR SDRAM (shared) Display: 14.1 inch XGA TFT (1024 x 768) Thanks, Jon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From jglueckstein at yahoo.com Sun Feb 20 03:33:23 2005 From: jglueckstein at yahoo.com (Jon Glueckstein) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 19:33:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X In-Reply-To: <20050219144029.46093.qmail@web60309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050220033323.40937.qmail@web60304.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jon Glueckstein wrote: > > --- mylar wrote: > > > Yes, maybe we can help if you help us. What kind > of > > system are you > > installing. What type of graphics adapter and > > moniter. Toss us some > > details man and we'll give it our best. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 22:35, Jon Glueckstein > wrote: > > > Hello listers, > > > > > > Sorry to be posting Fedora questions in the Red > > Hat > > > area. > > > > > > I have a Compaq Presario 2100us laptop that dual > > boots > > > XP and Fedora. I had Fedora Core 1 working just > > the > > > way I wanted, so I figured it was time for an > > upgrade! > > > > > > The upgrade went very smoothly. The first thing > I > > > tried to do was boot XP and it worked fine. > Then > > I > > > tried to boot Fedora Core 3 and it hung when it > > tried > > > to start the red hat graphical boot. > > > > > > I removed the rhgb from the kernel line in Grub > > and > > > tried again. It booted normally, all services > > came up > > > including my wireless card! When it detected > new > > > hardware, it found my graphics card, and I told > it > > to > > > configure it. But then when it went to the > > graphical > > > login screen, it hung in the same way. > > > > > > So, this time I changed the Grub kernel line to > > skip > > > rhgb and go to runlevel 3. Booted up fine. I > was > > > able to log in. But startx caused the computer > to > > > hang in the same way. > > > > > > Right now, I'm out of ideas. Can anybody help? > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jon > > > > > Here are some more details: > > I was using Fedora Core 1. I upgraded to Fedora > Core > 3 using the iso images I downloaded. Upgraded, not > clean install. Everything appears to work fine > except > for X. > > My laptop is a Compaq Presario 2100us. > Processor: Intel Celeron Processor - 1.6 GHz > Cache: 128 KB (L2) > Memory: 256 MB DDR SDRAM (1 x 256 MB) at 266 MHz > Video Graphics: ATI MOBILITY RADEON AGP 4X and 3D > architecture > Video Memory: 64 MB DDR SDRAM (shared) > Display: 14.1 inch XGA TFT (1024 x 768) > > Thanks, > Jon > And here's the latest news. I learned that FC3 uses /etc/X11/xorg.conf for configuration. Here is the file that the Fedora install program set me up with: =========================================== # XFree86 4 configuration created by redhat-config-xfree86 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then # this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you # also use USB mice at the same time. Identifier "DevInputMice" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "LCD Panel 1024x768" HorizSync 31.5 - 48.5 VertRefresh 40.0 - 70.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "vesa" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "VESA driver (generic)" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection =========================================== As root, I ran Xorg -configure and got this output: =========================================== X Window System Version 6.8.1 Release Date: 17 September 2004 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-14.ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-1.667 #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686 Build Date: 20 October 2004 Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.667 (bhcompile at tweety.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Feb 19 17:38:40 2005 List of video drivers: atimisc radeon r128 mga glint nv tga s3 s3virge sis rendition neomagic i740 tdfx savage cirrus vmware tseng trident chips apm i128 nsc i810 ati ark cyrix siliconmotion via vesa vga dummy fbdev v4l (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" Xorg is not able to detect your mouse. Edit the file and correct the Device. Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new To test the server, run 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new' =========================================== Here is the file /root/xorg.conf.new: =========================================== Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "vnc" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "PanelOff" # [] #Option "DDCMode" # [] #Option "MonitorLayout" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "UseFBDev" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "MergedFB" # [] #Option "CRT2HSync" # [] #Option "CRT2VRefresh" # [] #Option "CRT2Position" # [] #Option "MetaModes" # [] #Option "MergedDPI" # [] #Option "NoMergedXinerama" # [] #Option "MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0" # [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "RenderAccel" # [] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "ati" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "Radeon IGP 340M" BusID "PCI:1:5:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection =========================================== The output of Xorg -configure indicates a problem with my mouse. I am using a Logitech TrackMan Marble+ connected to the PS/2 input. I tried to play around with the mouse section in the X configuration file, but still no luck. I am in need of some advice. Thanks, Jon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Feb 20 12:45:28 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 06:45:28 -0600 Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X In-Reply-To: <20050220033323.40937.qmail@web60304.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050219144029.46093.qmail@web60309.mail.yahoo.com> <20050220033323.40937.qmail@web60304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050220124528.GA31811@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 07:33:23PM -0800, Jon Glueckstein wrote: > > --- Jon Glueckstein wrote: > > > > > --- mylar wrote: > > > > > Yes, maybe we can help if you help us. What kind > > of > > > system are you > > > installing. What type of graphics adapter and > > > moniter. Toss us some > > > details man and we'll give it our best. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 22:35, Jon Glueckstein > > wrote: > > > > Hello listers, > > > > > > > > Sorry to be posting Fedora questions in the Red > > > Hat > > > > area. > > > > > > > > I have a Compaq Presario 2100us laptop that dual > > > boots > > > > XP and Fedora. I had Fedora Core 1 working just > > > the > > > > way I wanted, so I figured it was time for an > > > upgrade! > > > > > > > > The upgrade went very smoothly. The first thing > > I > > > > tried to do was boot XP and it worked fine. > > Then > > > I > > > > tried to boot Fedora Core 3 and it hung when it > > > tried > > > > to start the red hat graphical boot. > > > > > > > > I removed the rhgb from the kernel line in Grub > > > and > > > > tried again. It booted normally, all services > > > came up > > > > including my wireless card! When it detected > > new > > > > hardware, it found my graphics card, and I told > > it > > > to > > > > configure it. But then when it went to the > > > graphical > > > > login screen, it hung in the same way. > > > > > > > > So, this time I changed the Grub kernel line to > > > skip > > > > rhgb and go to runlevel 3. Booted up fine. I > > was > > > > able to log in. But startx caused the computer > > to > > > > hang in the same way. > > > > > > > > Right now, I'm out of ideas. Can anybody help? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > Here are some more details: > > > > I was using Fedora Core 1. I upgraded to Fedora > > Core > > 3 using the iso images I downloaded. Upgraded, not > > clean install. Everything appears to work fine > > except > > for X. > > > > My laptop is a Compaq Presario 2100us. > > Processor: Intel Celeron Processor - 1.6 GHz > > Cache: 128 KB (L2) > > Memory: 256 MB DDR SDRAM (1 x 256 MB) at 266 MHz > > Video Graphics: ATI MOBILITY RADEON AGP 4X and 3D > > architecture > > Video Memory: 64 MB DDR SDRAM (shared) > > Display: 14.1 inch XGA TFT (1024 x 768) > > > > Thanks, > > Jon > > > > And here's the latest news. I learned that FC3 uses > /etc/X11/xorg.conf for configuration. Here is the > file that the Fedora install program set me up with: > =========================================== > # XFree86 4 configuration created by > redhat-config-xfree86 > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "single head configuration" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > > # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, > this is the name of the > # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). > There is normally > # no need to change the default. > # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are > concatenated together) > # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font > server independent of > # the X server to render fonts. > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > FontPath "unix/:7100" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > Load "fbdevhw" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > Load "dri" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > > # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled > (eg, with xset(1)) > # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" > # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment > XkbDisable. > # Option "XkbDisable" > # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, > modify the > # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, > for a non-U.S. > # keyboard, you will probably want to use: > # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" > # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can > use: > # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" > # > # Then to change the language, change the Layout > setting. > # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > # or: > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" > # > # If you'd like to switch the positions of your > capslock and > # control keys, use: > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" > # Or if you just want both to be control, use: > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > # > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > > # If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse > then > # this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to > let you > # also use USB mice at the same time. > Identifier "DevInputMice" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "LCD Panel 1024x768" > HorizSync 31.5 - 48.5 > VertRefresh 40.0 - 70.0 > Option "dpms" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "vesa" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "VESA driver (generic)" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "DRI" > Group 0 > Mode 0666 > EndSection > =========================================== > > As root, I ran > Xorg -configure > and got this output: > > =========================================== > X Window System Version 6.8.1 > Release Date: 17 September 2004 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1 > Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-14.ELsmp i686 > [ELF] > Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain > 2.6.9-1.667 #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686 > Build Date: 20 October 2004 > Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.667 > (bhcompile at tweety.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.2 > 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 > EST 2004 > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) > default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) > informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) > unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Feb 19 > 17:38:40 2005 > List of video drivers: > atimisc > radeon > r128 > mga > glint > nv > tga > s3 > s3virge > sis > rendition > neomagic > i740 > tdfx > savage > cirrus > vmware > tseng > trident > chips > apm > i128 > nsc > i810 > ati > ark > cyrix > siliconmotion > via > vesa > vga > dummy > fbdev > v4l > (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" > > > Xorg is not able to detect your mouse. > Edit the file and correct the Device. > > Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new > > To test the server, run 'X -config > /root/xorg.conf.new' > =========================================== > > Here is the file /root/xorg.conf.new: > =========================================== > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "vnc" > Load "dbe" > Load "dri" > Load "extmod" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : > "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " > Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] > #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] > #Option "BusType" # [] > #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] > #Option "CPusecTimeout" # > #Option "AGPMode" # > #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] > #Option "AGPSize" # > #Option "GARTSize" # > #Option "RingSize" # > #Option "BufferSize" # > #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] > #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] > #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] > #Option "PanelOff" # [] > #Option "DDCMode" # [] > #Option "MonitorLayout" # [] > #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] > #Option "UseFBDev" # [] > #Option "VideoKey" # > #Option "MergedFB" # [] > #Option "CRT2HSync" # [] > #Option "CRT2VRefresh" # [] > #Option "CRT2Position" # [] > #Option "MetaModes" # [] > #Option "MergedDPI" # [] > #Option "NoMergedXinerama" # [] > #Option "MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0" # > [] > #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] > #Option "PanelSize" # [] > #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # > #Option "RenderAccel" # [] > #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] > #Option "ShowCache" # [] > #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "ati" > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "Radeon IGP 340M" > BusID "PCI:1:5:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > =========================================== > > The output of Xorg -configure indicates a problem with > my mouse. I am using a Logitech TrackMan Marble+ > connected to the PS/2 input. I tried to play around > with the mouse section in the X configuration file, > but still no luck. I am in need of some advice. > > Thanks, > Jon Every machine I have upgraded from FC1 to FC2 (and, therefore, FC3) has required that I manually run system-config-display. You might also need to run system-config-mouse, not necessarily in that order. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From bhamal at wlink.com.np Sun Feb 20 02:54:46 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:39:46 +0545 Subject: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 Message-ID: <000c01c516f7$89f4c460$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Hi ! I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel box with a 60 GB hard drive . Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of NTFS and 9 GB of Linux , file id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 . I want to use some free unallocated space from the remaining 40 GB for my linux . But I could not get fdisk (from the command prompt ) to show me the unallocated space and partition it . I could see the unallocated free space when I run KDE hardware browser . I could find the GUI disk druid too . So How do I partition the unused free space for my red hat 8.0 . Which utility do I use ? When ever I use fdisk , and choose option n ( to add a partition ) , it gives an error message saying that I need extended partition or I need to delete old partition to create a new one . But I have 40 GB of un used space on my hard drive. Please advice . Thank you for your help in advance . cheers, bj From markknecht at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 14:33:07 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 06:33:07 -0800 Subject: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 In-Reply-To: <000c01c516f7$89f4c460$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> References: <000c01c516f7$89f4c460$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050220063376d71ae6@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:39:46 +0545, bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel box with a 60 GB hard drive . > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of NTFS and 9 GB of Linux , file > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 . > > I want to use some free unallocated space from the remaining 40 GB for my > linux . > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command prompt ) to show me the > unallocated space and partition it . > Hi, As root mount df cat /etc/fstab to show what the setup is. Probably fdisk /dev/hda and when in fdisk 'p' to show the partitions. Adjust hda to whatever you might actually have based on the mount results. Cheers, Mark From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Sun Feb 20 15:03:53 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:03:53 -0500 Subject: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BC2DF2B7@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> fdisk /dev/hda (if it's your primary disk but check /etc/fstab to see what your hd is for your linux mp's.) n Press Enter at the starting cylinder +1G for 1 gig or +1M for 1Meg and so on. w q partprobe if you are running an ext2 fs then mke2fs /dev/new partition if ext3 mke2fs -j /dev/new partition then mount it. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 ________________________________ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com on behalf of Mark Knecht Sent: Sun 2/20/2005 9:33 AM To: bhamal at wlink.com.np; Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:39:46 +0545, bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel box with a 60 GB hard drive . > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of NTFS and 9 GB of Linux , file > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 . > > I want to use some free unallocated space from the remaining 40 GB for my > linux . > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command prompt ) to show me the > unallocated space and partition it . > Hi, As root mount df cat /etc/fstab to show what the setup is. Probably fdisk /dev/hda and when in fdisk 'p' to show the partitions. 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Toss us some > > > > details man and we'll give it our best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 22:35, Jon Glueckstein > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello listers, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to be posting Fedora questions in the > Red > > > > Hat > > > > > area. > > > > > > > > > > I have a Compaq Presario 2100us laptop that > dual > > > > boots > > > > > XP and Fedora. I had Fedora Core 1 working > just > > > > the > > > > > way I wanted, so I figured it was time for > an > > > > upgrade! > > > > > > > > > > The upgrade went very smoothly. The first > thing > > > I > > > > > tried to do was boot XP and it worked fine. > > > Then > > > > I > > > > > tried to boot Fedora Core 3 and it hung when > it > > > > tried > > > > > to start the red hat graphical boot. > > > > > > > > > > I removed the rhgb from the kernel line in > Grub > > > > and > > > > > tried again. It booted normally, all > services > > > > came up > > > > > including my wireless card! When it > detected > > > new > > > > > hardware, it found my graphics card, and I > told > > > it > > > > to > > > > > configure it. But then when it went to the > > > > graphical > > > > > login screen, it hung in the same way. > > > > > > > > > > So, this time I changed the Grub kernel line > to > > > > skip > > > > > rhgb and go to runlevel 3. Booted up fine. > I > > > was > > > > > able to log in. But startx caused the > computer > > > to > > > > > hang in the same way. > > > > > > > > > > Right now, I'm out of ideas. Can anybody > help? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > Here are some more details: > > > > > > I was using Fedora Core 1. I upgraded to Fedora > > > Core > > > 3 using the iso images I downloaded. Upgraded, > not > > > clean install. Everything appears to work fine > > > except > > > for X. > > > > > > My laptop is a Compaq Presario 2100us. > > > Processor: Intel Celeron Processor - 1.6 GHz > > > Cache: 128 KB (L2) > > > Memory: 256 MB DDR SDRAM (1 x 256 MB) at 266 MHz > > > Video Graphics: ATI MOBILITY RADEON AGP 4X and > 3D > > > architecture > > > Video Memory: 64 MB DDR SDRAM (shared) > > > Display: 14.1 inch XGA TFT (1024 x 768) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jon > > > > > > > And here's the latest news. I learned that FC3 > uses > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf for configuration. Here is the > > file that the Fedora install program set me up > with: > > =========================================== > > # XFree86 4 configuration created by > > redhat-config-xfree86 > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > Identifier "single head configuration" > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Files" > > > > # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. > Note, > > this is the name of the > > # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). > > > There is normally > > # no need to change the default. > > # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are > > concatenated together) > > # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font > > server independent of > > # the X server to render fonts. > > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > > FontPath "unix/:7100" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Module" > > Load "dbe" > > Load "extmod" > > Load "fbdevhw" > > Load "glx" > > Load "record" > > Load "freetype" > > Load "type1" > > Load "dri" > > EndSection > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be > user-controlled > > (eg, with xset(1)) > > # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" > > # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment > > XkbDisable. > > # Option "XkbDisable" > > # To customise the XKB settings to suit your > keyboard, > > modify the > > # lines below (which are the defaults). For > example, > > for a non-U.S. > > # keyboard, you will probably want to use: > > # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" > > # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you > can > > use: > > # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" > > # > > # Then to change the language, change the Layout > > setting. > > # For example, a german layout can be obtained > with: > > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > > # or: > > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > > # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" > > # > > # If you'd like to switch the positions of your > > capslock and > > # control keys, use: > > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" > > # Or if you just want both to be control, use: > > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > > # > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > Driver "kbd" > > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > EndSection > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Mouse0" > === message truncated === > Every machine I have upgraded from FC1 to FC2 (and, therefore, FC3) > has required that I manually run system-config-display. You might > also need to run system-config-mouse, not necessarily in that order. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > The best home improvement manual is the Bible. Bob, I did not know of those scripts. Thanks for making me aware of them. I booted into runlevel 3 and ran system-config-mouse. It ran in text mode and I was able to make a selection. My mouse is active in text mode. However, that did not fix the problem with X hanging when I try to get into graphical mode. I also ran system-config-display, which gave me the following output: ================================= Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 27, in ? import xf86config ImportError: No module named xf86config ================================= I think that means I'm missing a python module called xf86config? Thanks, Jon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Feb 20 20:23:56 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:23:56 -0600 Subject: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 In-Reply-To: <000c01c516f7$89f4c460$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> References: <000c01c516f7$89f4c460$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Message-ID: <20050220202356.GA14052@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:39:46AM +0545, bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel box with a 60 GB hard drive . > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of NTFS and 9 GB of Linux , file > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 . > > I want to use some free unallocated space from the remaining 40 GB for my > linux . > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command prompt ) to show me the > unallocated space and partition it . > > I could see the unallocated free space when I run KDE hardware browser . > > I could find the GUI disk druid too . > > So How do I partition the unused free space for my red hat 8.0 . > > Which utility do I use ? > > When ever I use fdisk , and choose option n ( to add a partition ) , it > gives an error message saying that I need extended partition or I need to > delete old partition to create a new one . > > But I have 40 GB of un used space on my hard drive. > > Please advice . > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > cheers, > bj Run fdisk -l /dev/hda and let us see what it says. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From nj.collis at shaw.ca Sun Feb 20 20:27:17 2005 From: nj.collis at shaw.ca (vincy) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:27:17 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Windows hangs during grub boot] Message-ID: <1108931238.4861.1.camel@S010600a0833b10af.ed.shawcable.net> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: vincy Subject: Windows hangs during grub boot Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:15:46 -0700 Size: 2375 URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Feb 20 20:32:35 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:32:35 -0600 Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X In-Reply-To: <20050220183415.16583.qmail@web60309.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050220124528.GA31811@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050220183415.16583.qmail@web60309.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050220203235.GB14052@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:34:15AM -0800, Jon Glueckstein wrote: > > --- Bob McClure Jr > wrote: > > > > > Every machine I have upgraded from FC1 to FC2 (and, > therefore, FC3) > > has required that I manually run > system-config-display. You might > > also need to run system-config-mouse, not > necessarily in that order. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > Bob, > > I did not know of those scripts. Thanks for making me > aware of them. > > I booted into runlevel 3 and ran system-config-mouse. > It ran in text mode and I was able to make a > selection. My mouse is active in text mode. However, > that did not fix the problem with X hanging when I try > to get into graphical mode. > > I also ran system-config-display, which gave me the > following output: > ================================= > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", > line 27, in ? > import xf86config > ImportError: No module named xf86config > ================================= > > I think that means I'm missing a python module called > xf86config? > > Thanks, > Jon I suppose so. But I'm not a python wonk, so I'll have to pass the baton to someone else. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From stuart at sjsears.com Mon Feb 21 00:03:48 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:03:48 +0000 Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X In-Reply-To: <20050220203235.GB14052@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050220124528.GA31811@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050220183415.16583.qmail@web60309.mail.yahoo.com> <20050220203235.GB14052@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <200502210003.48335.stuart@sjsears.com> On Sunday 20 February 2005 20:32, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > I booted into runlevel 3 and ran system-config-mouse. > > It ran in text mode and I was able to make a > > selection. My mouse is active in text mode. However, > > that did not fix the problem with X hanging when I try > > to get into graphical mode. > > > > I also ran system-config-display, which gave me the > > following output: > > ================================= > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", > > line 27, in ? > > import xf86config > > ImportError: No module named xf86config > > ================================= > > > > I think that means I'm missing a python module called > > xf86config? > > > > Thanks, > > Jon > > I suppose so. But I'm not a python wonk, so I'll have to pass the > baton to someone else. so, this was an upgrade, not a reinstall, correct? the python "xf86config" module is provided by the pyxf86config package. Try installing that (or at least looking for it on your system with rpm -q) and then see how you get on with the config tools. you could install it either directly from your CDs, or if this is a pain and you have functional internet, by typing [root at behemoth ~]# yum install pyxf86config and see how you get on. once you can actually get system-config-display working, try running it as [root at behemoth ~]# system-config-display --reconfig to ignore your existing xorg.conf and start from scratch. incidentally, what are the error lines in your xorg logs? [root at behemoth ~]# grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log they may shed some light on the issue you are currently having A final option... Based on the xorg.conf that you posted, it seems that your system is configured to use bog-standard SVGA (the Driver "vesa" line tells me this). you may wish to change this to use "ati" for your ati card (if that is still the name of the driver. Can't see why they'd change it, mind you) I have to say (justified or not) that I have not heard good things about upgrades between versions of Fedora Core - a clean reinstall usually seems to be the recommended approach. For this reason it makes sense to keep your /home directory as a separate filesystem (or make very regular backups) Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP If you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it. From bho at gmx.net Mon Feb 21 01:04:09 2005 From: bho at gmx.net (Benjamin Hornberger) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:04:09 -0500 Subject: investigating frequent crashes Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050220194847.02fedb20@pop.gmx.net> Hi all, I have a machine running RHEL AS 3 which mainly runs a small mail and web server. Recently, it crashes quite often (once a week maybe) for yet unknown reasons. Do you have any general advice on how to investigate such a problem? I know I can run a memory test. Any other hardware tests? What to look for in which log file? Thanks for any help, Benjamin From bhamal at wlink.com.np Sun Feb 20 16:15:50 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:00:50 +0545 Subject: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 In-Reply-To: <20050220202356.GA14052@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <000a01c5176a$34191b40$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Hi ! Thank you for the prompt reply . The result of fdisk -l /dev/hda is as ffs :- Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 7297 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 574 4610623+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 575 1097 4200997+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 1098 1228 1052257+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda4 1229 1835 4875727+ 7 HPFS/NTFS I think I hit the limitation of 4 primary partitions . Please advice . cheers, bj -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:09 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:39:46AM +0545, bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel box with a 60 GB hard drive . > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of NTFS and 9 GB of Linux , file > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 . > > I want to use some free unallocated space from the remaining 40 GB for my > linux . > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command prompt ) to show me the > unallocated space and partition it . > > I could see the unallocated free space when I run KDE hardware browser . > > I could find the GUI disk druid too . > > So How do I partition the unused free space for my red hat 8.0 . > > Which utility do I use ? > > When ever I use fdisk , and choose option n ( to add a partition ) , it > gives an error message saying that I need extended partition or I need to > delete old partition to create a new one . > > But I have 40 GB of un used space on my hard drive. > > Please advice . > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > cheers, > bj Run fdisk -l /dev/hda and let us see what it says. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From bhamal at wlink.com.np Sun Feb 20 16:19:00 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:04:00 +0545 Subject: adding 3 com network adapter to RH 8.0 Message-ID: <000d01c5176a$43ade810$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Hi! I have 3 network adapter in my RH 8.0 . Kudzu , the plug & play utility , was able to discover two of them . It succesffuly discovered the onboard VIA -RHINE one , and the old Real tek one . Hence my VIA -RHINE one is eth0 and the old real tek one is eth1 . But it could not discover my third 3 com one . The lspci does show the 3 com card and so does cat /proc/pci . Hence , how do I make that third 3 com card usable when lspci & cat /proc/pci does show the card but kudzu does not install it . Thank you for your help in advance . Cheers, bj The lspci result is as ffs :- 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3168 (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device b168 00:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) 00:0c.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01) 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation: Unknown device 9300 (rev 31) 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX] (rev b2) the pcilist shows as ffs :- pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3168 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8374 P4X400 Host Controller/AGP Bridge pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0xb168 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0a function 0x00: vendor 0x14f1 device 0x2f00 Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0b function 0x00: vendor 0x10ec device 0x8029 Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0c function 0x00: vendor 0x14f1 device 0x2f00 Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0d function 0x00: vendor 0x10b7 device 0x9300 3Com Corporation 3CSOHO100B-TX [910-A01] pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3038 VIA Technologies, Inc. USB pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x01: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3038 VIA Technologies, Inc. USB pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x02: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3038 VIA Technologies, Inc. USB pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x03: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3104 VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x11 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3177 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x11 function 0x01: vendor 0x1106 device 0x0571 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x11 function 0x05: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3059 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio Controller pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x12 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3065 VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de device 0x0110 nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] The result of cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: PCI device 1106:3168 (VIA Technologies, Inc.) (rev 3). Master Capable. Latency=8. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd0000000 [0xd7ffffff]. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge (rev 0). Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=12. Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 1). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3000000 [0xe300ffff]. I/O at 0xc000 [0xc007]. Bus 0, device 12, function 0: Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (#2) (rev 1). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3010000 [0xe301ffff]. I/O at 0xc800 [0xc807]. Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) (rev 0). IRQ 5. I/O at 0xc400 [0xc41f]. Bus 0, device 13, function 0: Ethernet controller: PCI device 10b7:9300 (3Com Corporation) (rev 49). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=64.Max Lat=128. I/O at 0xcc00 [0xccff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3020000 [0xe30203ff]. Bus 0, device 16, function 0: USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 128). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xd000 [0xd01f]. Bus 0, device 16, function 1: USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (#2) (rev 128). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xd400 [0xd41f]. Bus 0, device 16, function 2: USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (#3) (rev 128). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xd800 [0xd81f]. Bus 0, device 16, function 3: USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 130). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3021000 [0xe30210ff]. Bus 0, device 17, function 0: ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge (rev 0). Bus 0, device 17, function 1: IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 6). Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdc0f]. Bus 0, device 17, function 5: Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 80). IRQ 5. I/O at 0xe000 [0xe0ff]. Bus 0, device 18, function 0: Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 116). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=3.Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xe400 [0xe4ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3022000 [0xe30220ff]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX] (rev 178). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0000000 [0xe0ffffff]. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd8000000 [0xdfffffff]. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 21 03:38:12 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:38:12 -0600 Subject: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 In-Reply-To: <000a01c5176a$34191b40$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> References: <20050220202356.GA14052@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <000a01c5176a$34191b40$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Message-ID: <20050221033812.GA11489@bobcat.bobcatos.com> We prefer bottom-posting, here, that is, reply below (or interleaved with) what you're replying to. Answer: Because it makes the flow of conversation easier to follow. Question: Why do you prefer bottom-posting? On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:00:50PM +0545, bj wrote: > Hi ! > > Thank you for the prompt reply . > > The result of fdisk -l /dev/hda is as ffs :- > > > Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 7297 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 574 4610623+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > /dev/hda2 575 1097 4200997+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda3 1098 1228 1052257+ 82 Linux swap > /dev/hda4 1229 1835 4875727+ 7 HPFS/NTFS > > > I think I hit the limitation of 4 primary partitions . You are correct, sir. > Please advice . > > cheers, > bj What's /dev/hda4 being used for? Does Win2K see it as a D: (or some other drive letter than C:)? If not, or if nothing is on it, you're golden. If there is something on there, can it all be moved to C:? If not, can it be backed up to tape or CD or DVD or another machine via network? What you want to be able to do is delete part 4, and then make a new extended partition that covers the rest of the whole drive, and then of that you can make a large number of logical partitions. Failing that, you might have to save off anything important and repartition and reinstall everything. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure > Jr > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:09 AM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: How to add a new partition to an existing Red HAT 8 > > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:39:46AM +0545, bj wrote: > > Hi ! > > > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel box with a 60 GB hard drive > . > > > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of NTFS and 9 GB of Linux , > file > > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 . > > > > I want to use some free unallocated space from the remaining 40 GB for my > > linux . > > > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command prompt ) to show me the > > unallocated space and partition it . > > > > I could see the unallocated free space when I run KDE hardware browser . > > > > I could find the GUI disk druid too . > > > > So How do I partition the unused free space for my red hat 8.0 . > > > > Which utility do I use ? > > > > When ever I use fdisk , and choose option n ( to add a partition ) , it > > gives an error message saying that I need extended partition or I need to > > delete old partition to create a new one . > > > > But I have 40 GB of un used space on my hard drive. > > > > Please advice . > > > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > > > cheers, > > bj > > Run > > fdisk -l /dev/hda > > and let us see what it says. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 21 04:02:34 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:02:34 -0600 Subject: adding 3 com network adapter to RH 8.0 In-Reply-To: <000d01c5176a$43ade810$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> References: <000d01c5176a$43ade810$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Message-ID: <20050221040234.GB11489@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:04:00PM +0545, bj wrote: > Hi! > > I have 3 network adapter in my RH 8.0 . > > Kudzu , the plug & play utility , was able to discover two of them . > > It succesffuly discovered the onboard VIA -RHINE one , and the old Real tek > one . > > Hence my VIA -RHINE one is eth0 and the old real tek one is eth1 . > > But it could not discover my third 3 com one . > > The lspci does show the 3 com card and so does cat /proc/pci . > > Hence , how do I make that third 3 com card usable when lspci & cat > /proc/pci does show the card but kudzu does not install it . > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > Cheers, > bj > > > > The lspci result is as ffs :- > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3168 (rev 03) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device b168 > 00:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) > 00:0c.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01) > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation: Unknown device 9300 (rev 31) > 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) > 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) > 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) > 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) > 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA Bridge > 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B PIPC Bus Master IDE > (rev 06) > 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 > Audio Controller (rev 50) > 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev > 74) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX] > (rev b2) > > > the pcilist shows as ffs :- > > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0x3168 > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8374 P4X400 Host Controller/AGP Bridge > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor 0x1106 device 0xb168 > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0a function 0x00: vendor 0x14f1 device 0x2f00 > Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0b function 0x00: vendor 0x10ec device 0x8029 > Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0c function 0x00: vendor 0x14f1 device 0x2f00 > Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0d function 0x00: vendor 0x10b7 device 0x9300 > 3Com Corporation 3CSOHO100B-TX [910-A01] > > I did a Google for "linux driver 3CSOHO100B-TX" and one of the hits was http://www.wlug.org.nz/NetworkDrivers which has a link to http://www.tux.org/hypermail/linux-vortex/2002-Dec/0054.html and indicates you need the "tulip" driver. I don't know if RH 8.0 has it. Because kudzu didn't find the card, it may well not. Try this (as root): modprobe tulip If there are no errors, then it's a fit. Make an entry in /etc/modules.conf like this: alias eth2 tulip That said, be advised that RH 8.0 (and RH 9) have been end-of-lifed, meaning that no more security or bug fixes will be backfilled to that distro, so you're running a distro with known security vulnerabilities. You would do very well to upgrade to Fedora Core (3 is the current edition). If there is not a worthwhile tulip driver in RH 8.0, then you may well have to upgrade. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From akumar118 at rediffmail.com Mon Feb 21 07:56:45 2005 From: akumar118 at rediffmail.com (Arvind Kumar) Date: 21 Feb 2005 07:56:45 -0000 Subject: How to ... Urgent Please Message-ID: <20050221075645.486.qmail@webmail18.rediffmail.com> Hello everybody there, My sys config ;- 1.8 ghz 40gb 256 ram 14" Di Col Monitor I recently acquired RH 9.3.I had Win98 SE.I formatted my win 98 se, than after creating partition(20gb for rh) I installed RH and ran for two to three days(dual booting). Then, my RH is not at all booting whereas it is straight away booting Win 98. Can any one help me how to overcome this prob. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jglueckstein at yahoo.com Mon Feb 21 12:54:27 2005 From: jglueckstein at yahoo.com (Jon Glueckstein) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:54:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X In-Reply-To: <200502210003.48335.stuart@sjsears.com> Message-ID: <20050221125428.32740.qmail@web60307.mail.yahoo.com> --- Stuart Sears wrote: > On Sunday 20 February 2005 20:32, Bob McClure Jr > wrote: > > > I booted into runlevel 3 and ran > system-config-mouse. > > > It ran in text mode and I was able to make a > > > selection. My mouse is active in text mode. > However, > > > that did not fix the problem with X hanging when > I try > > > to get into graphical mode. > > > > > > I also ran system-config-display, which gave me > the > > > following output: > > > ================================= > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File > "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", > > > line 27, in ? > > > import xf86config > > > ImportError: No module named xf86config > > > ================================= > > > > > > I think that means I'm missing a python module > called > > > xf86config? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jon > > > > I suppose so. But I'm not a python wonk, so I'll > have to pass the > > baton to someone else. > so, this was an upgrade, not a reinstall, correct? > the python "xf86config" module is provided by the > pyxf86config package. > Try installing that (or at least looking for it on > your system with rpm -q) > and then see how you get on with the config tools. > you could install it either directly from your CDs, > or if this is a pain and > you have functional internet, by typing > [root at behemoth ~]# yum install pyxf86config > and see how you get on. > once you can actually get system-config-display > working, try running it as > [root at behemoth ~]# system-config-display --reconfig > to ignore your existing xorg.conf and start from > scratch. > incidentally, what are the error lines in your xorg > logs? > [root at behemoth ~]# grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > they may shed some light on the issue you are > currently having > > A final option... > Based on the xorg.conf that you posted, it seems > that your system is > configured to use bog-standard SVGA (the Driver > "vesa" line tells me this). > you may wish to change this to use "ati" for your > ati card (if that is still > the name of the driver. Can't see why they'd change > it, mind you) > > I have to say (justified or not) that I have not > heard good things about > upgrades between versions of Fedora Core - a clean > reinstall usually seems to > be the recommended approach. For this reason it > makes sense to keep > your /home directory as a separate filesystem (or > make very regular backups) > > Stuart > -- > Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP > If you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford > it. > Stuart, Thanks for your reply. Lots of things for me to try. I'll let you know what happens. I'm thinking about what you said about a clean reinstall. I did a complete system backup using mondo rescue before I started the upgrade. It shouldn't be much of a problem to reinstall the /home filespace. However, it can't be as easy as that, can it? What about the passwd file? The mail spools? The installed packages that didn't come with the distribution? Am I correct in assuming that these would also need to be reinstalled, along with 100 other things that don't come right to mind? How do you all deal with things like that when doing a clean reinstall? Thanks, Jon __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com From kens at geodax.com Mon Feb 21 13:53:23 2005 From: kens at geodax.com (Ken Scott) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:53:23 -0500 Subject: investigating frequent crashes In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050220194847.02fedb20@pop.gmx.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050220194847.02fedb20@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: <1108994003.21574.18.camel@KENS02L> On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 20:04, Benjamin Hornberger wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a machine running RHEL AS 3 which mainly runs a small mail and web > server. Recently, it crashes quite often (once a week maybe) for yet > unknown reasons. Do you have any general advice on how to investigate such > a problem? I know I can run a memory test. Any other hardware tests? What > to look for in which log file? > > Thanks for any help, > Benjamin > I have 3 RH 9 boxes. I one them crashes with about the same weekly frequency that you describe. I turned off all the fancy screensavers and the problem seemed to likewise cease (I had been using all the provided screensavers in random mode). I need to go back and figure out which one is the culprit (somehow). Funny that the other two systems are not similarly affected (different video cards??). Maybe you could investigate the same thing. Ken From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Mon Feb 21 15:37:00 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:37:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: Launcher Message-ID: How does one edit a Launcher? I know how to make them but let's say I spell something wrong or want it to run in an ICON or would just like to know what I'm launching - how do I see that. If I right click on the ICON I can see the properties but that doesn't tell me what I want to know, nor can I change anything. Thanks, -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From tpotter at techmarin.com Mon Feb 21 16:17:38 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:17:38 -0800 Subject: Launcher In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1109002658.11549.1.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 07:37, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > How does one edit a Launcher? I know how to make them but let's > say I spell something wrong or want it to run in an ICON or would > just like to know what I'm launching - how do I see that. If I > right click on the ICON I can see the properties but that doesn't > tell me what I want to know, nor can I change anything. > > Thanks, using Ximian's Gnome I find them in /home/tpotter/.gnome-desktop edit as you will. Ted -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com From scottb at bxwa.com Mon Feb 21 16:41:32 2005 From: scottb at bxwa.com (Scott Becker) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:41:32 -0800 Subject: RHEL 4 Update problem Message-ID: <421A0F3C.70606@bxwa.com> I just installed 4 ES on a server last Wednesday. I had to select I2O_BLOCK driver to get it see my Adaptec raid array (on zero channel controller). Two days later (friday) I installed the latest updates with 'up2date -u -f' and an updated kernel installed along with other packages. The machine now hangs on boot with a blank screen except for 'GRUB _'. I presume that after the kernel update, grub does not have what it needs to have in order to access the I2O device, even though it did after install. I think I can boot from install #1 and access the drive. Does anybody know the specifics of what it takes for GRUB to access I2O? scottb From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 21 17:05:54 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:05:54 -0600 Subject: investigating frequent crashes In-Reply-To: <1108994003.21574.18.camel@KENS02L> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050220194847.02fedb20@pop.gmx.net> <1108994003.21574.18.camel@KENS02L> Message-ID: <20050221170554.GD3143@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 08:53:23AM -0500, Ken Scott wrote: > On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 20:04, Benjamin Hornberger wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a machine running RHEL AS 3 which mainly runs a small mail and web > > server. Recently, it crashes quite often (once a week maybe) for yet > > unknown reasons. Do you have any general advice on how to investigate such > > a problem? I know I can run a memory test. Any other hardware tests? What > > to look for in which log file? > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Benjamin > > > I have 3 RH 9 boxes. I one them crashes with about the same weekly > frequency that you describe. I turned off all the fancy screensavers > and the problem seemed to likewise cease (I had been using all the > provided screensavers in random mode). I need to go back and figure out > which one is the culprit (somehow). If you run xscreensaver-demo, the first screensaver it brings up is the the last one that was running. > Funny that the other two systems > are not similarly affected (different video cards??). Maybe you could > investigate the same thing. > Ken Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From yogeshpalrecha at rediffmail.com Mon Feb 21 18:05:59 2005 From: yogeshpalrecha at rediffmail.com (yogesh tejraj palrecha) Date: 21 Feb 2005 18:05:59 -0000 Subject: Error: /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build points to a missing directory Message-ID: <20050221180559.3607.qmail@webmail10.rediffmail.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 18:34:22 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:34:22 -0800 Subject: Gnome as the default environement Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05022110345e6d09ad@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm updating my laptop's FC2 installation. When I did a quick install a few months ago I only installed KDE for some reason so last evening I added Gnome. Gnome runs fine but I have to choose Gnome everytime I log in. How do I change what is considered the default environment to run? Thanks, Mark From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 21 19:48:50 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:48:50 -0600 Subject: Gnome as the default environement In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05022110345e6d09ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05022110345e6d09ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050221194850.GB31880@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 10:34:22AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I'm updating my laptop's FC2 installation. When I did a quick > install a few months ago I only installed KDE for some reason so last > evening I added Gnome. Gnome runs fine but I have to choose Gnome > everytime I log in. > > How do I change what is considered the default environment to run? > > Thanks, > Mark Look in your menus for a "desktop chooser" or something to that effect. I don't use KDE, and I use GNOME only when I have to. When I select GNOME instead of my usual AfterStep or IceWM, a note pops up after GNOME loads saying I can make GNOME my default by going to (warning: faulty memory at work) Settings, and something after that. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com Mon Feb 21 20:21:20 2005 From: redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com (Carl Reynolds) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:21:20 -0500 Subject: Fedore Core 3 hangs on install Message-ID: <421A42C0.8080600@hyperbole-software.com> I am trying to install Fedora Core 3 on an AMD 2800 64 with 512MB RAM and 112GB HD. The Hardrive is a WesternDigital WD1200JD-00H SATA drive. I am using a Giga-Byte mother board with a ViA on board chip set. There is a video controller built in to the chip set and that is what I'm using as video output. When I start the installation process the installer hangs with an X-Server failure almost as soon as I select Graphical Install. I performed the installation in text mode using 'linux text xfs' to start the install. Now that the installation is complete, the machine hangs on re-boot on a blank screen with the words "Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667)'" at the top of the screen and several seemingly randomly placed dots on the screen below it. The CDs for the install are for x86-64. Does anyone know what the problem is here and how I can get around it? Thanks, Carl. From stuart at sjsears.com Mon Feb 21 21:14:06 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:14:06 +0000 Subject: Gnome as the default environement In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05022110345e6d09ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05022110345e6d09ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200502212114.06910.stuart@sjsears.com> On Monday 21 February 2005 18:34, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I'm updating my laptop's FC2 installation. When I did a quick > install a few months ago I only installed KDE for some reason so last > evening I added Gnome. Gnome runs fine but I have to choose Gnome > everytime I log in. > > How do I change what is considered the default environment to run? in a terminal, type switchdesk GNOME that should do it. Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP Retirement means that when someone says "Have a nice day", you actually have a shot at it. From dlpeterson at cableone.net Mon Feb 21 21:19:28 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 14:19:28 -0700 Subject: Fedore Core 3 hangs on install In-Reply-To: <421A42C0.8080600@hyperbole-software.com> Message-ID: I had several issues with the x86-64 installation. I am also using a Gigabyte K8Triton motherboard with a 3400+ processor. I installed SuSE 9.1 x86-64 no problem, but there are still some fundamental functionality issues with the 64-bit architecture. I went back to the 32-bit installation with Redhat Enterprise, and everything is working fine. You might want to try FC3 32-bit version. If you look through the x86 64-bit support documents it might scare you back to the 32-bit installation as well. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Carl Reynolds Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:21 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Fedore Core 3 hangs on install I am trying to install Fedora Core 3 on an AMD 2800 64 with 512MB RAM and 112GB HD. The Hardrive is a WesternDigital WD1200JD-00H SATA drive. I am using a Giga-Byte mother board with a ViA on board chip set. There is a video controller built in to the chip set and that is what I'm using as video output. When I start the installation process the installer hangs with an X-Server failure almost as soon as I select Graphical Install. I performed the installation in text mode using 'linux text xfs' to start the install. Now that the installation is complete, the machine hangs on re-boot on a blank screen with the words "Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667)'" at the top of the screen and several seemingly randomly placed dots on the screen below it. The CDs for the install are for x86-64. Does anyone know what the problem is here and how I can get around it? Thanks, Carl. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 00:52:11 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:52:11 -0800 Subject: Gnome as the default environement In-Reply-To: <200502212114.06910.stuart@sjsears.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05022110345e6d09ad@mail.gmail.com> <200502212114.06910.stuart@sjsears.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05022116526887069c@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:14:06 +0000, Stuart Sears wrote: > On Monday 21 February 2005 18:34, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm updating my laptop's FC2 installation. When I did a quick > > install a few months ago I only installed KDE for some reason so last > > evening I added Gnome. Gnome runs fine but I have to choose Gnome > > everytime I log in. > > > > How do I change what is considered the default environment to run? > in a terminal, type > switchdesk GNOME > that should do it. > > Stuart Thanks! That worked nicely. Cheers, Mark From nofri at luk.or.id Tue Feb 22 01:19:56 2005 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:19:56 GMT Subject: Grub does not appear Message-ID: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Hi Gurus, I had RH9 and Windows XP on my computer. Both were running well. I used GRUB for booting. Then I installed Windows ME. After installing, GRUB does not appear so that I can not use RH9 and Windows XP. Can you tell me what I have to do so that I can use RH9, Windows XP and Windows ME on my computer. Thanks in advance Nofriyadi Nurdam From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Tue Feb 22 02:17:48 2005 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:17:48 -0600 Subject: Grub does not appear In-Reply-To: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <1109038668.7155.1.camel@c515816-a> On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 01:19 +0000, Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > Hi Gurus, > > I had RH9 and Windows XP on my computer. Both were running well. I used GRUB > for booting. > Then I installed Windows ME. After installing, GRUB does not appear so that > I can not use RH9 and Windows XP. > Can you tell me what I have to do so that I can use RH9, Windows XP and > Windows ME on my computer. > Thanks in advance > Nofriyadi Nurdam > yes that is correct windows doesn't honor any other boot loader in the boot block, you need to boot with the rescue disk or the first disk of the installation set and do rescue and do a "grub-install" > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- Otto Haliburton From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 02:16:20 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:16:20 -0800 Subject: Grub does not appear In-Reply-To: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0502211816719a0a02@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 01:19:56 GMT, Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > > Hi Gurus, > > I had RH9 and Windows XP on my computer. Both were running well. I used GRUB > for booting. > Then I installed Windows ME. After installing, GRUB does not appear so that > I can not use RH9 and Windows XP. > Can you tell me what I have to do so that I can use RH9, Windows XP and > Windows ME on my computer. It's most likely because the Windows ME installation over wrote the partition that you had grub on, replacing it with it's own boot manager. Their boot manager doesn't know abou tLinux so it won't boot it. You need to read the dual-boot HOWTOs on the net for good instructions on how to get this set up properly. Good luck, Mark From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Feb 22 03:49:43 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:49:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: Launcher In-Reply-To: <1109002658.11549.1.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: Thanks, so there is no nifty way to just left click and edit. Bummer. On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Ted Potter wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 07:37, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > How does one edit a Launcher? I know how to make them but let's > > say I spell something wrong or want it to run in an ICON or would > > just like to know what I'm launching - how do I see that. If I > > right click on the ICON I can see the properties but that doesn't > > tell me what I want to know, nor can I change anything. > > > > Thanks, > > > using Ximian's Gnome I find them in > /home/tpotter/.gnome-desktop > > edit as you will. > > Ted > > > > > -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Feb 22 03:53:16 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:53:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: RealVNC Message-ID: Upgraded my notebook to FC2 - added my VPN software and installed RealVNC. When I try to run RealVNC I get the error libstcd++-libc6.1-1.so.2 can't be found (or something like that). I also can't find it on the web - found references to it but it's not there. Anyone know where I can get RealVNC complied to run under FC2 (I'm taking it that that is the problem). Thanks, -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From a.apprich at science-computing.de Tue Feb 22 12:23:55 2005 From: a.apprich at science-computing.de (Alexander Apprich) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:23:55 +0100 Subject: RealVNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <421B245B.3040108@science-computing.de> Brad, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Upgraded my notebook to FC2 - added my VPN software and installed > RealVNC. When I try to run RealVNC I get the error > libstcd++-libc6.1-1.so.2 can't be found (or something like that). > I also can't find it on the web - found references to it but it's > not there. you probably couldn't find it, because you misspelled the shared object file name :-) Just install compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.126.i386.rpm and you should be good to go. If you like to see all library dependencies use ldd root at elmstreet / # ldd /usr/local/bin/vncviewer libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x006ff000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x006bb000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x00733000) libXaw.so.7 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.7 (0x0074a000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x00bd5000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x04332000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x006ef000) libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0xb7f30000) libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x036b0000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7f28000) libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x001b5000) libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x0089d000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00303000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0019c000) If there would be a missing library there would be a "not found" in the listing > > Anyone know where I can get RealVNC complied to run under FC2 > (I'm taking it that that is the problem). > > Thanks, > Alex From mikerault at yahoo.com Tue Feb 22 13:39:16 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:39:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Error: /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build points to a missing directory In-Reply-To: <20050221180559.3607.qmail@webmail10.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <20050222133916.46250.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Drop and rebuild the link to point to the proper directory. --- yogesh tejraj palrecha wrote: > > Hey Mich, > > I still have probs. > > This is wht i did. > > orafw Build link > ls -l /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build > > /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build -> > ../../../usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1 > > After i install the rpm > > rpm -i kernel-2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1.src.rpm > > It installs evrthng under /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/ > Whereas the build link is trying to find under > /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1 > > Wht i need to do in this situation ? > > Thanks, > Yogesh. > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 Michael Ault wrote : > >You may also need to download and install the > source > >file from the OTN site. > > > >Mike > >--- yogesh tejraj palrecha > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I am getting this error while installing some > rpm. > > > > > > ERROR: /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.1.ELorafw1/build > > > points to a > > > missing directory > > > > > > Any idea wht needs to be done ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Yogesh. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > >===== > >Michael R. Ault > >Senior Consultant > >Burleson Oracle Consulting > >770-754-9057 > >www.ault.cc > >www.remote-dba.com > > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com wrote > : > >Send Redhat-install-list mailing list submissions > to > > redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > redhat-install-list-owner at redhat.com > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more > >specific > >than "Re: Contents of Redhat-install-list > digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X (Jon > Glueckstein) > > 2. Re: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT 8 > > (Bob McClure Jr) > > 3. [Fwd: Windows hangs during grub boot] > (vincy) > > 4. Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X (Bob > McClure Jr) > > 5. Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X (Stuart > Sears) > > 6. investigating frequent crashes (Benjamin > Hornberger) > > 7. RE: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT 8 > >(bj) > > 8. adding 3 com network adapter to RH 8.0 (bj) > > 9. Re: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT 8 > > (Bob McClure Jr) > > 10. Re: adding 3 com network adapter to RH 8.0 > (Bob McClure > >Jr) > > 11. How to ... Urgent Please (Arvind Kumar) > > 12. Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X (Jon > Glueckstein) > > 13. Re: investigating frequent crashes (Ken > Scott) > > 14. Launcher (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) > > 15. Re: Launcher (Ted Potter) > > 16. RHEL 4 Update problem (Scott Becker) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 10:34:15 -0800 (PST) > > From: Jon Glueckstein > >Subject: Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X > >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > >Message-ID: > ><20050220183415.16583.qmail at web60309.mail.yahoo.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > >--- Bob McClure Jr > >wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 07:33:23PM -0800, Jon > > > Glueckstein wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Jon Glueckstein > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- mylar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, maybe we can help if you help us. > What > > > kind > > > > > of > > > > > > system are you > > > > > > installing. What type of graphics adapter > and > > > > > > moniter. Toss us some > > > > > > details man and we'll give it our best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2005-02-18 at 22:35, Jon > Glueckstein > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello listers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to be posting Fedora questions in > the > > > Red > > > > > > Hat > > > > > > > area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a Compaq Presario 2100us laptop > that > > > dual > > > > > > boots > > > > > > > XP and Fedora. I had Fedora Core 1 > working > > > just > > > > > > the > > > > > > > way I wanted, so I figured it was time > for > > > an > > > > > > upgrade! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The upgrade went very smoothly. The > first > > > thing > > > > > I > > > > > > > tried to do was boot XP and it worked > fine. > > > > > Then > > > > > > I > > > > > > > tried to boot Fedora Core 3 and it hung > when > > > it > > > > > > tried > > > > > > > to start the red hat graphical boot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I removed the rhgb from the kernel line > in > > > Grub > > > > > > and > > > > > > > tried again. It booted normally, all > > > services > > > > > > came up > > > > > > > including my wireless card! When it > > > detected > > > > > new > > > > > > > hardware, it found my graphics card, and > I > > > told > > > > > it > > > > > > to > > > > > > > configure it. But then when it went to > the > > > > > > graphical > > > > > > > login screen, it hung in the same way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, this time I changed the Grub kernel > line > > > to > > > > > > skip > > > > > > > rhgb and go to runlevel 3. Booted up > fine. > > > I > > > > > was > > > > > > > able to log in. But startx caused the > > > computer > > > > > to > > > > > > > hang in the same way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right now, I'm out of ideas. Can > anybody > > > help? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are some more details: > > > > > > > > > > I was using Fedora Core 1. I upgraded to > Fedora > > > > > Core > > > > > 3 using the iso images I downloaded. > Upgraded, > > > not > > > > > clean install. Everything appears to work > fine > > > > > except > > > > > for X. > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is a Compaq Presario 2100us. > > > > > Processor: Intel Celeron Processor - 1.6 GHz > > > > > Cache: 128 KB (L2) > > > > > Memory: 256 MB DDR SDRAM (1 x 256 MB) at 266 > MHz > > > > > Video Graphics: ATI MOBILITY RADEON AGP 4X > and > > > 3D > > > > > architecture > > > > > Video Memory: 64 MB DDR SDRAM (shared) > > > > > Display: 14.1 inch XGA TFT (1024 x 768) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > And here's the latest news. I learned that > FC3 > > > uses > > > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf for configuration. Here is > the > > > > file that the Fedora install program set me up > > > with: > > > > =========================================== > > > > # XFree86 4 configuration created by > > > > redhat-config-xfree86 > > > > > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > > > Identifier "single head configuration" > > > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > > > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > > > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > > > InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > Section "Files" > > > > > > > > # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. > > > Note, > > > > this is the name of the > > > > # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or > ".db"). > > > > > > > There is normally > > > > # no need to change the default. > > > > # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they > are > > > > concatenated together) > > > > # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a > font > > > > server independent of > > > > # the X server to render fonts. > > > > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > > > > FontPath "unix/:7100" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > Section "Module" > > > > Load "dbe" > > > > Load "extmod" > > > > Load "fbdevhw" > > > > Load "glx" > > > > Load "record" > > > > Load "freetype" > > > > Load "type1" > > > > Load "dri" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > > > > > # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be > > > user-controlled > > > > (eg, with xset(1)) > > > > # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" > > > > # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, > uncomment > > > > XkbDisable. > > > > # Option "XkbDisable" > > > > # To customise the XKB settings to suit your > > > keyboard, > > > > modify the > > > > # lines below (which are the defaults). For > > > example, > > > > for a non-U.S. > > > > # keyboard, you will probably want to use: > > > > # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" > > > > # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, > you > > > can > > > > use: > > > > # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" > > > > # > > > > # Then to change the language, change the > Layout > > > > setting. > > > > # For example, a german layout can be obtained > > > with: > > > > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > > > > # or: > > > > # Option "XkbLayout" "de" > > > > # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" > > > > # > > > > # If you'd like to switch the positions of > your > > > > capslock and > > > > # control keys, use: > > > > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" > > > > # Or if you just want both to be control, use: > > > > # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" > > > > # > > > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > > > Driver "kbd" > > > > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > > > > Option "XkbLayout" "us" > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > > > >=== message truncated === > > > > > Every machine I have upgraded from FC1 to FC2 > (and, > >therefore, FC3) > > > has required that I manually run > >system-config-display. You might > > > also need to run system-config-mouse, not > >necessarily in that order. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -- > > > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open > Systems, > >Inc. > > > robertmcclure at earthlink.net > http://www.bobcatos.com > > > The best home improvement manual is the Bible. > > > >Bob, > > > >I did not know of those scripts. Thanks for making > me > >aware of them. > > > >I booted into runlevel 3 and ran > system-config-mouse. > >It ran in text mode and I was able to make a > >selection. My mouse is active in text mode. > However, > >that did not fix the problem with X hanging when I > try > >to get into graphical mode. > > > >I also ran system-config-display, which gave me the > >following output: > >================================= > >Traceback (most recent call last): > > File > "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", > >line 27, in ? > > import xf86config > >ImportError: No module named xf86config > >================================= > > > >I think that means I'm missing a python module > called > >xf86config? > > > >Thanks, > >Jon > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 2 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:23:56 -0600 > > From: Bob McClure Jr > >Subject: Re: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT > >8 > >To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >Message-ID: > <20050220202356.GA14052 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > >On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:39:46AM +0545, bj wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel > box with a 60 > >GB hard drive . > > > > > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of > NTFS and 9 GB of > >Linux , file > > > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 > . > > > > > > I want to use some free unallocated space from > the remaining > >40 GB for my > > > linux . > > > > > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command > prompt ) to show > >me the > > > unallocated space and partition it . > > > > > > I could see the unallocated free space when I > run KDE hardware > >browser . > > > > > > I could find the GUI disk druid too . > > > > > > So How do I partition the unused free space for > my red hat 8.0 > >. > > > > > > Which utility do I use ? > > > > > > When ever I use fdisk , and choose option n ( > to add a > >partition ) , it > > > gives an error message saying that I need > extended partition > >or I need to > > > delete old partition to create a new one . > > > > > > But I have 40 GB of un used space on my hard > drive. > > > > > > Please advice . > > > > > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > > > > > cheers, > > > bj > > > >Run > > > > fdisk -l /dev/hda > > > >and let us see what it says. > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > >robertmcclure at earthlink.net > http://www.bobcatos.com > >The best home improvement manual is the Bible. > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 3 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:27:17 -0700 > > From: vincy > >Subject: [Fwd: Windows hangs during grub boot] > >To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >Message-ID: > > > <1108931238.4861.1.camel at S010600a0833b10af.ed.shawcable.net> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > >-------------- next part -------------- > >An embedded message was scrubbed... > > From: vincy > >Subject: Windows hangs during grub boot > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:15:46 -0700 > >Size: 2375 > >Url: > >https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050220/0affcc1f/attachment.eml > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 4 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:32:35 -0600 > > From: Bob McClure Jr > >Subject: Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X > >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > >Message-ID: > <20050220203235.GB14052 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > >On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:34:15AM -0800, Jon > Glueckstein > >wrote: > > > > > > --- Bob McClure Jr > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every machine I have upgraded from FC1 to FC2 > (and, > > > therefore, FC3) > > > > has required that I manually run > > > system-config-display. You might > > > > also need to run system-config-mouse, not > > > necessarily in that order. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > I did not know of those scripts. Thanks for > making me > > > aware of them. > > > > > > I booted into runlevel 3 and ran > system-config-mouse. > > > It ran in text mode and I was able to make a > > > selection. My mouse is active in text mode. > However, > > > that did not fix the problem with X hanging when > I try > > > to get into graphical mode. > > > > > > I also ran system-config-display, which gave me > the > > > following output: > > > ================================= > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File > "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", > > > line 27, in ? > > > import xf86config > > > ImportError: No module named xf86config > > > ================================= > > > > > > I think that means I'm missing a python module > called > > > xf86config? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jon > > > >I suppose so. But I'm not a python wonk, so I'll > have to pass > >the > >baton to someone else. > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > >robertmcclure at earthlink.net > http://www.bobcatos.com > >The best home improvement manual is the Bible. > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 5 > >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:03:48 +0000 > > From: Stuart Sears > >Subject: Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X > >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > >Message-ID: <200502210003.48335.stuart at sjsears.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >On Sunday 20 February 2005 20:32, Bob McClure Jr > wrote: > > > > I booted into runlevel 3 and ran > system-config-mouse. > > > > It ran in text mode and I was able to make a > > > > selection. My mouse is active in text mode. > However, > > > > that did not fix the problem with X hanging > when I try > > > > to get into graphical mode. > > > > > > > > I also ran system-config-display, which gave > me the > > > > following output: > > > > ================================= > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > > File > "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", > > > > line 27, in ? > > > > import xf86config > > > > ImportError: No module named xf86config > > > > ================================= > > > > > > > > I think that means I'm missing a python module > called > > > > xf86config? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon > > > > > > I suppose so. But I'm not a python wonk, so > I'll have to pass > >the > > > baton to someone else. > >so, this was an upgrade, not a reinstall, correct? > >the python "xf86config" module is provided by the > >pyxf86config package. > >Try installing that (or at least looking for it on > your system > >with rpm -q) > >and then see how you get on with the config tools. > >you could install it either directly from your CDs, > or if this is > >a pain and > >you have functional internet, by typing > >[root at behemoth ~]# yum install pyxf86config > >and see how you get on. > >once you can actually get system-config-display > working, try > >running it as > >[root at behemoth ~]# system-config-display --reconfig > >to ignore your existing xorg.conf and start from > scratch. > >incidentally, what are the error lines in your xorg > logs? > >[root at behemoth ~]# grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > >they may shed some light on the issue you are > currently having > > > >A final option... > >Based on the xorg.conf that you posted, it seems > that your system > >is > >configured to use bog-standard SVGA (the Driver > "vesa" line tells > >me this). > >you may wish to change this to use "ati" for your > ati card (if > >that is still > >the name of the driver. Can't see why they'd change > it, mind > >you) > > > >I have to say (justified or not) that I have not > heard good > >things about > >upgrades between versions of Fedora Core - a clean > reinstall > >usually seems to > >be the recommended approach. For this reason it > makes sense to > >keep > >your /home directory as a separate filesystem (or > make very > >regular backups) > > > >Stuart > >-- > >Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP > >If you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford > it. > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 6 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:04:09 -0500 > > From: Benjamin Hornberger > >Subject: investigating frequent crashes > >To: redhat-install-list > > >Message-ID: > <6.2.0.14.2.20050220194847.02fedb20 at pop.gmx.net> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; > format=flowed > > > >Hi all, > > > >I have a machine running RHEL AS 3 which mainly > runs a small mail > >and web > >server. Recently, it crashes quite often (once a > week maybe) for > >yet > >unknown reasons. Do you have any general advice on > how to > >investigate such > >a problem? I know I can run a memory test. Any > other hardware > >tests? What > >to look for in which log file? > > > >Thanks for any help, > >Benjamin > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 7 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:00:50 +0545 > > From: "bj" > >Subject: RE: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT > >8 > >To: "'Getting started with Red Hat Linux'" > > > >Message-ID: > <000a01c5176a$34191b40$0db3fea9 at kath.state.gov> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >Hi ! > > > >Thank you for the prompt reply . > > > >The result of fdisk -l /dev/hda is as ffs :- > > > > > >Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 7297 > cylinders > >Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id > System > >/dev/hda1 * 1 574 4610623+ 7 > HPFS/NTFS > >/dev/hda2 575 1097 4200997+ 83 > Linux > >/dev/hda3 1098 1228 1052257+ 82 > Linux swap > >/dev/hda4 1229 1835 4875727+ 7 > HPFS/NTFS > > > > > >I think I hit the limitation of 4 primary > partitions . > > > >Please advice . > > > >cheers, > >bj > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > >[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On > Behalf Of Bob > >McClure > >Jr > >Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:09 AM > >To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >Subject: Re: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT > >8 > > > > > >On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:39:46AM +0545, bj wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel > box with a 60 > >GB hard drive > >. > > > > > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of > NTFS and 9 GB of > >Linux , > >file > > > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id 82 > . > > > > > > I want to use some free unallocated space from > the remaining > >40 GB for my > > > linux . > > > > > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command > prompt ) to show > >me the > > > unallocated space and partition it . > > > > > > I could see the unallocated free space when I > run KDE hardware > >browser . > > > > > > I could find the GUI disk druid too . > > > > > > So How do I partition the unused free space for > my red hat 8.0 > >. > > > > > > Which utility do I use ? > > > > > > When ever I use fdisk , and choose option n ( > to add a > >partition ) , it > > > gives an error message saying that I need > extended partition > >or I need to > > > delete old partition to create a new one . > > > > > > But I have 40 GB of un used space on my hard > drive. > > > > > > Please advice . > > > > > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > > > > > cheers, > > > bj > > > >Run > > > > fdisk -l /dev/hda > > > >and let us see what it says. > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > >robertmcclure at earthlink.net > http://www.bobcatos.com > >The best home improvement manual is the Bible. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Redhat-install-list mailing list > >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > >Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 8 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:04:00 +0545 > > From: "bj" > >Subject: adding 3 com network adapter to RH 8.0 > >To: > >Message-ID: > <000d01c5176a$43ade810$0db3fea9 at kath.state.gov> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >Hi! > > > >I have 3 network adapter in my RH 8.0 . > > > >Kudzu , the plug & play utility , was able to > discover two of > >them . > > > >It succesffuly discovered the onboard VIA -RHINE > one , and the > >old Real tek > >one . > > > >Hence my VIA -RHINE one is eth0 and the old real > tek one is eth1 > >. > > > >But it could not discover my third 3 com one . > > > >The lspci does show the 3 com card and so does cat > /proc/pci . > > > >Hence , how do I make that third 3 com card usable > when lspci & > >cat > >/proc/pci does show the card but kudzu does not > install it . > > > >Thank you for your help in advance . > > > >Cheers, > >bj > > > > > > > >The lspci result is as ffs :- > > > >00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: > Unknown device 3168 > >(rev 03) > >00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown > device b168 > >00:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k > HSFi Modem > >(rev 01) > >00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor > Co., Ltd. > >RTL-8029(AS) > >00:0c.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k > HSFi Modem > >(rev 01) > >00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation: > Unknown device > >9300 (rev 31) > >00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > (rev 80) > >00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > (rev 80) > >00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > (rev 80) > >00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > 2.0 (rev 82) > >00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A > ISA Bridge > >00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. > VT82C586B PIPC Bus > >Master IDE > >(rev 06) > >00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA > Technologies, Inc. > >VT8233 AC97 > >Audio Controller (rev 50) > >00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. > VT6102 > >[Rhine-II] (rev > >74) > >01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia > Corporation NV11 > >[GeForce2 MX] > >(rev b2) > > > > > >the pcilist shows as ffs :- > > > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3168 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8374 P4X400 Host > Controller/AGP > >Bridge > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0xb168 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0a function 0x00: vendor > 0x14f1 device > >0x2f00 > > Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0b function 0x00: vendor > 0x10ec device > >0x8029 > > Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0c function 0x00: vendor > 0x14f1 device > >0x2f00 > > Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0d function 0x00: vendor > 0x10b7 device > >0x9300 > > 3Com Corporation 3CSOHO100B-TX [910-A01] > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x00: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3038 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x01: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3038 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x02: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3038 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x10 function 0x03: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3104 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x11 function 0x00: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3177 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x11 function 0x01: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x0571 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. > >VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus > >Master IDE > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x11 function 0x05: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3059 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio > Controller > > > >pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x12 function 0x00: vendor > 0x1106 device > >0x3065 > > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] > > > >pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor > 0x10de device > >0x0110 > > nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] > > > > > >The result of cat /proc/pci > > > >PCI devices found: > > Bus 0, device 0, function 0: > > Host bridge: PCI device 1106:3168 (VIA > Technologies, Inc.) > >(rev 3). > > Master Capable. Latency=8. > > Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd0000000 > [0xd7ffffff]. > > Bus 0, device 1, function 0: > > PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI > Bridge (rev > >0). > > Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=12. > > Bus 0, device 10, function 0: > > Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k > HSFi Modem (rev > >1). > > IRQ 5. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. > > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3000000 > > >[0xe300ffff]. > > I/O at 0xc000 [0xc007]. > > Bus 0, device 12, function 0: > > Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k > HSFi Modem (#2) > >(rev 1). > > IRQ 11. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. > > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3010000 > > >[0xe301ffff]. > > I/O at 0xc800 [0xc807]. > > Bus 0, device 11, function 0: > > Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor > Co., Ltd. > >RTL-8029(AS) (rev > >0). > > IRQ 5. > > I/O at 0xc400 [0xc41f]. > > Bus 0, device 13, function 0: > > Ethernet controller: PCI device 10b7:9300 > (3Com Corporation) > >(rev 49). > > IRQ 11. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=64.Max > Lat=128. > > I/O at 0xcc00 [0xccff]. > > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3020000 > > >[0xe30203ff]. > > Bus 0, device 16, function 0: > > USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > (rev 128). > > IRQ 11. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. > > I/O at 0xd000 [0xd01f]. > > Bus 0, device 16, function 1: > > USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > (#2) (rev 128). > > IRQ 5. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. > > I/O at 0xd400 [0xd41f]. > > Bus 0, device 16, function 2: > > USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB > (#3) (rev 128). > > IRQ 5. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. > > I/O at 0xd800 [0xd81f]. > > Bus 0, device 16, function 3: > > USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 > (rev 130). > > IRQ 11. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. > > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3021000 > > >[0xe30210ff]. > > Bus 0, device 17, function 0: > > ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233A ISA > Bridge (rev > >0). > > Bus 0, device 17, function 1: > > IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. > VT82C586B PIPC Bus > >Master IDE (rev > >6). > > Master Capable. Latency=32. > > I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdc0f]. > > Bus 0, device 17, function 5: > > Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, > Inc. VT8233 > >AC97 Audio > >Controller (rev 80). > > IRQ 5. > > I/O at 0xe000 [0xe0ff]. > > Bus 0, device 18, function 0: > > Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. > VT6102 > >[Rhine-II] (rev 116). > > IRQ 11. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=3.Max > Lat=8. > > I/O at 0xe400 [0xe4ff]. > > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe3022000 > > >[0xe30220ff]. > > Bus 1, device 0, function 0: > > VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation > NV11 [GeForce2 > >MX] (rev > >178). > > IRQ 11. > > Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=5.Max > Lat=1. > > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0000000 > > >[0xe0ffffff]. > > Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd8000000 > [0xdfffffff]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 9 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:38:12 -0600 > > From: Bob McClure Jr > >Subject: Re: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT > >8 > >To: bhamal at wlink.com.np, Getting started with Red > Hat Linux > > > >Message-ID: > <20050221033812.GA11489 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > >We prefer bottom-posting, here, that is, reply > below (or > >interleaved > >with) what you're replying to. > > > >Answer: Because it makes the flow of conversation > easier to > >follow. > > > >Question: Why do you prefer bottom-posting? > > > >On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:00:50PM +0545, bj wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > > > Thank you for the prompt reply . > > > > > > The result of fdisk -l /dev/hda is as ffs :- > > > > > > > > > Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 7297 > cylinders > > > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes > > > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id > System > > > /dev/hda1 * 1 574 4610623+ 7 > HPFS/NTFS > > > /dev/hda2 575 1097 4200997+ 83 > Linux > > > /dev/hda3 1098 1228 1052257+ 82 > Linux swap > > > /dev/hda4 1229 1835 4875727+ 7 > HPFS/NTFS > > > > > > > > > I think I hit the limitation of 4 primary > partitions . > > > >You are correct, sir. > > > > > Please advice . > > > > > > cheers, > > > bj > > > >What's /dev/hda4 being used for? Does Win2K see it > as a D: (or > >some > >other drive letter than C:)? > > > >If not, or if nothing is on it, you're golden. If > there is > >something > >on there, can it all be moved to C:? If not, can > it be backed up > >to > >tape or CD or DVD or another machine via network? > > > >What you want to be able to do is delete part 4, > and then make a > >new > >extended partition that covers the rest of the > whole drive, and > >then > >of that you can make a large number of logical > partitions. > > > >Failing that, you might have to save off anything > important and > >repartition and reinstall everything. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > > > > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On > Behalf Of > >Bob McClure > > > Jr > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:09 AM > > > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > Subject: Re: How to add a new partition to an > existing Red HAT > >8 > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:39:46AM +0545, bj > wrote: > > > > Hi ! > > > > > > > > I have a red hat 8.0 & Windows 2000 on a intel > box with a 60 > >GB hard drive > > > . > > > > > > > > Only 20 GB has been partitioned into 10 GB of > NTFS and 9 GB > >of Linux , > > > file > > > > id 83 ext 3 and 1 GB of Linux swap , file id > 82 . > > > > > > > > I want to use some free unallocated space from > the remaining > >40 GB for my > > > > linux . > > > > > > > > But I could not get fdisk (from the command > prompt ) to show > >me the > > > > unallocated space and partition it . > > > > > > > > I could see the unallocated free space when I > run KDE > >hardware browser . > > > > > > > > I could find the GUI disk druid too . > > > > > > > > So How do I partition the unused free space > for my red hat > >8.0 . > > > > > > > > Which utility do I use ? > > > > > > > > When ever I use fdisk , and choose option n > ( to add a > >partition ) , it > > > > gives an error message saying that I need > extended partition > >or I need to > > > > delete old partition to create a new one . > > > > > > > > But I have 40 GB of un used space on my hard > drive. > > > > > > > > Please advice . > > > > > > > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > bj > > > > > > Run > > > > > > fdisk -l /dev/hda > > > > > > and let us see what it says. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -- > > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > > > > > > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > >robertmcclure at earthlink.net > http://www.bobcatos.com > >The best home improvement manual is the Bible. > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 10 > >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:02:34 -0600 > > From: Bob McClure Jr > >Subject: Re: adding 3 com network adapter to RH 8.0 > >To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >Message-ID: > <20050221040234.GB11489 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > >On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:04:00PM +0545, bj wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > I have 3 network adapter in my RH 8.0 . > > > > > > Kudzu , the plug & play utility , was able to > discover two of > >them . > > > > > > It succesffuly discovered the onboard VIA -RHINE > one , and the > >old Real tek > > > one . > > > > > > Hence my VIA -RHINE one is eth0 and the old real > tek one is > >eth1 . > > > > > > But it could not discover my third 3 com one . > > > > > > The lspci does show the 3 com card and so does > cat /proc/pci > >. > > > > > > Hence , how do I make that third 3 com card > usable when lspci > >& cat > > > /proc/pci does show the card but kudzu does not > install it . > > > > > > Thank you for your help in advance . > > > > > > Cheers, > > > bj > > > > > > > > > > > > The lspci result is as ffs :- > > > > > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: > Unknown device > >3168 (rev 03) > > > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: > Unknown device > >b168 > > > 00:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF > 56k HSFi Modem > >(rev 01) > > > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek > Semiconductor Co., Ltd. > >RTL-8029(AS) > > > 00:0c.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF > 56k HSFi Modem > >(rev 01) > > > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation: > Unknown device > >9300 (rev 31) > > > 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. > USB (rev 80) > > > 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. > USB (rev 80) > > > 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. > USB (rev 80) > > > 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. > USB 2.0 (rev > >82) > > > 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. > VT8233A ISA > >Bridge > > > 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. > VT82C586B PIPC > >Bus Master IDE > > > (rev 06) > > > 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA > Technologies, Inc. > >VT8233 AC97 > > > Audio Controller (rev 50) > > > 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, > Inc. VT6102 > >[Rhine-II] (rev > > > 74) > > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia > Corporation NV11 > >[GeForce2 MX] > > > (rev b2) > > > > > > > > > the pcilist shows as ffs :- > > > > > > > > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: > vendor 0x1106 > >device 0x3168 > > > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8374 P4X400 Host > Controller/AGP > >Bridge > > > > > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x01 function 0x00: > vendor 0x1106 > >device 0xb168 > > > VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge > > > > > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0a function 0x00: > vendor 0x14f1 > >device 0x2f00 > > > Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem > > > > > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0b function 0x00: > vendor 0x10ec > >device 0x8029 > > > Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS) > > > > > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0c function 0x00: > vendor 0x14f1 > >device 0x2f00 > > > Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem > > > > > > pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x0d function 0x00: > vendor 0x10b7 > >device 0x9300 > > > 3Com Corporation 3CSOHO100B-TX [910-A01] > > > > > > > > > >I did a Google for "linux driver 3CSOHO100B-TX" and > one of the > >hits was > > > >http://www.wlug.org.nz/NetworkDrivers > > > >which has a link to > > > >http://www.tux.org/hypermail/linux-vortex/2002-Dec/0054.html > > > >and indicates you need the "tulip" driver. I don't > know if RH > >8.0 has > >it. Because kudzu didn't find the card, it may > well not. Try > >this > >(as root): > > > > modprobe tulip > > > >If there are no errors, then it's a fit. Make an > entry in > >/etc/modules.conf like this: > > > > alias eth2 tulip > > > >That said, be advised that RH 8.0 (and RH 9) have > been > >end-of-lifed, > >meaning that no more security or bug fixes will be > backfilled to > >that > >distro, so you're running a distro with known > security > >vulnerabilities. You would do very well to upgrade > to Fedora > >Core (3 > >is the current edition). If there is not a > worthwhile tulip > >driver in > >RH 8.0, then you may well have to upgrade. > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > >robertmcclure at earthlink.net > http://www.bobcatos.com > >The best home improvement manual is the Bible. > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 11 > >Date: 21 Feb 2005 07:56:45 -0000 > > From: "Arvind Kumar" > >Subject: How to ... Urgent Please > >To: Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >Message-ID: > <20050221075645.486.qmail at webmail18.rediffmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > >Hello everybody there, > > > > > >My sys config ;- 1.8 ghz 40gb 256 ram > >14" Di Col Monitor > > > >I recently acquired RH 9.3.I had Win98 SE.I > formatted my win 98 > >se, > >than after creating partition(20gb for rh) I > installed RH and ran > >for two to three days(dual booting). > >Then, my RH is not at all booting whereas it is > straight away > >booting Win 98. > > > >Can any one help me how to overcome this prob. > >-------------- next part -------------- > >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >URL: > >https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050221/92268b4c/attachment.htm > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 12 > >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 04:54:27 -0800 (PST) > > From: Jon Glueckstein > >Subject: Re: Upgrading FC1 to FC3 breaks X > >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > >Message-ID: > ><20050221125428.32740.qmail at web60307.mail.yahoo.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > >--- Stuart Sears wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 20 February 2005 20:32, Bob McClure Jr > > > wrote: > > > > > I booted into runlevel 3 and ran > > > system-config-mouse. > > > > > It ran in text mode and I was able to make a > > > > > selection. My mouse is active in text mode. > > > However, > > > > > that did not fix the problem with X hanging > when > > > I try > > > > > to get into graphical mode. > > > > > > > > > > I also ran system-config-display, which gave > me > > > the > > > > > following output: > > > > > ================================= > > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > > > File > > > "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", > > > > > line 27, in ? > > > > > import xf86config > > > > > ImportError: No module named xf86config > > > > > ================================= > > > > > > > > > > I think that means I'm missing a python > module > > > called > > > > > xf86config? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > I suppose so. But I'm not a python wonk, so > I'll > > > have to pass the > > > > baton to someone else. > > > so, this was an upgrade, not a reinstall, > correct? > > > the python "xf86config" module is provided by > the > > > pyxf86config package. > > > Try installing that (or at least looking for it > on > > > your system with rpm -q) > > > and then see how you get on with the config > tools. > > > you could install it either directly from your > CDs, > > > or if this is a pain and > > > you have functional internet, by typing > > > [root at behemoth ~]# yum install pyxf86config > > > and see how you get on. > > > once you can actually get system-config-display > > > working, try running it as > > > [root at behemoth ~]# system-config-display > --reconfig > > > to ignore your existing xorg.conf and start from > > > scratch. > > > incidentally, what are the error lines in your > xorg > > > logs? > > > [root at behemoth ~]# grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > > they may shed some light on the issue you are > > > currently having > > > > > > A final option... > > > Based on the xorg.conf that you posted, it seems > > > that your system is > > > configured to use bog-standard SVGA (the Driver > > > "vesa" line tells me this). > > > you may wish to change this to use "ati" for > your > > > ati card (if that is still > > > the name of the driver. Can't see why they'd > change > > > it, mind you) > > > > > > I have to say (justified or not) that I have not > > > heard good things about > > > upgrades between versions of Fedora Core - a > clean > > > reinstall usually seems to > > > be the recommended approach. For this reason it > > > makes sense to keep > > > your /home directory as a separate filesystem > (or > > > make very regular backups) > > > > > > Stuart > > > -- > > > Stuart Sears RHCE, RHCX, RTFM, ASAP > > > If you have to ask how much it is, you can't > afford > > > it. > > > > >Stuart, > > > >Thanks for your reply. Lots of things for me to > try. > >I'll let you know what happens. > > > >I'm thinking about what you said about a clean > >reinstall. I did a complete system backup using > mondo > >rescue before I started the upgrade. It shouldn't > be > >much of a problem to reinstall the /home filespace. > > > >However, it can't be as easy as that, can it? What > >about the passwd file? The mail spools? The > >installed packages that didn't come with the > >distribution? Am I correct in assuming that these > >would also need to be reinstalled, along with 100 > >other things that don't come right to mind? How do > >you all deal with things like that when doing a > clean > >reinstall? > > > >Thanks, > >Jon > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > >http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 13 > >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:53:23 -0500 > > From: Ken Scott > >Subject: Re: investigating frequent crashes > >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > >Message-ID: <1108994003.21574.18.camel at KENS02L> > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >On Sun, 2005-02-20 at 20:04, Benjamin Hornberger > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a machine running RHEL AS 3 which mainly > runs a small > >mail and web > > > server. Recently, it crashes quite often (once a > week maybe) > >for yet > > > unknown reasons. Do you have any general advice > on how to > >investigate such > > > a problem? I know I can run a memory test. Any > other hardware > >tests? What > > > to look for in which log file? > > > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > Benjamin > > > > >I have 3 RH 9 boxes. I one them crashes with about > the same > >weekly > >frequency that you describe. I turned off all the > fancy > >screensavers > >and the problem seemed to likewise cease (I had > been using all > >the > >provided screensavers in random mode). I need to > go back and > >figure out > >which one is the culprit (somehow). Funny that the > other two > >systems > >are not similarly affected (different video > cards??). Maybe you > >could > >investigate the same thing. > >Ken > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 14 > >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:37:00 -0700 (MST) > > From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net > >Subject: Launcher > >To: Red Hat Install > > >Message-ID: > > > > >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > >How does one edit a Launcher? I know how to make > them but let's > >say I spell something wrong or want it to run in an > ICON or > >would > >just like to know what I'm launching - how do I see > that. If I > >right click on the ICON I can see the properties > but that > >doesn't > >tell me what I want to know, nor can I change > anything. > > > >Thanks, > > > >-- > >Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > > >There are 10 types of people in this world. Those > that > >understand binary and those that don't. > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 15 > >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:17:38 -0800 > > From: Ted Potter > >Subject: Re: Launcher > >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > >Message-ID: > <1109002658.11549.1.camel at interjet.techmarin.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 07:37, > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > How does one edit a Launcher? I know how to make > them but > >let's > > > say I spell something wrong or want it to run in > an ICON or > >would > > > just like to know what I'm launching - how do I > see that. If > >I > > > right click on the ICON I can see the properties > but that > >doesn't > > > tell me what I want to know, nor can I change > anything. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > >using Ximian's Gnome I find them in > >/home/tpotter/.gnome-desktop > > > >edit as you will. > > > >Ted > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Ted Potter > >tpotter at techmarin.com > >www.techmarin.com > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 16 > >Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:41:32 -0800 > > From: Scott Becker > >Subject: RHEL 4 Update problem > >To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com, > >Markus.Lidel at shadowconnect.com > >Message-ID: <421A0F3C.70606 at bxwa.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > > >I just installed 4 ES on a server last Wednesday. I > had to > >select > >I2O_BLOCK driver to get it see my Adaptec raid > array (on zero > >channel > >controller). Two days later (friday) I installed > the latest > >updates with > >'up2date -u -f' and an updated kernel installed > along with > >other > >packages. The machine now hangs on boot with a > blank screen > >except for > >'GRUB _'. I presume that after the kernel update, > grub does not > >have > >what it needs to have in order to access the I2O > device, even > >though it > >did after install. I think I can boot from install > #1 and access > >the drive. > > > >Does anybody know the specifics of what it takes > for GRUB to > >access I2O? > > > > scottb > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Redhat-install-list mailing list > >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > > >End of Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 12, Issue 22 > >*************************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > ===== Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Feb 22 15:12:31 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:12:31 -0600 Subject: RealVNC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050222151231.GA27370@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 08:53:16PM -0700, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > Upgraded my notebook to FC2 - added my VPN software and installed > RealVNC. When I try to run RealVNC I get the error > libstcd++-libc6.1-1.so.2 can't be found (or something like that). > I also can't find it on the web - found references to it but it's > not there. > > Anyone know where I can get RealVNC complied to run under FC2 > (I'm taking it that that is the problem). How about getting the missing library? It's in compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.126.i386.rpm on CD-3. > Thanks, > > -- > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From harold at hallikainen.com Tue Feb 22 16:52:29 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:52:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Swapping Motherboards? Message-ID: <34451.207.177.227.29.1109091149.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> In anticipation of my server eventually dying, I'm trying to come up with a way to have almost zero down time. The machine has two removable drives. One holds /home . The other holds everything else. I'm thinking of using Norton Ghost to duplicate these drives. Then, should I lose a drive, I just plug in my backup. The next trick is, if I lose the motherboard or power supply, I move the drives from the dead machine to a live machine. The motherboard in the existing server is no longer in production and getting expensive (Tyan Tiger 200). How much trouble am I likely to have if the motherboard is not an exact duplicate of the one I'm running now when I move drives? THANKS! Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 22 17:01:57 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:01:57 -0800 Subject: RHEL 4 Update problem In-Reply-To: <421A0F3C.70606@bxwa.com> References: <421A0F3C.70606@bxwa.com> Message-ID: <421B6585.2010106@vitalstream.com> Scott Becker wrote: > I just installed 4 ES on a server last Wednesday. I had to select > I2O_BLOCK driver to get it see my Adaptec raid array (on zero channel > controller). Two days later (friday) I installed the latest updates with > 'up2date -u -f' and an updated kernel installed along with other > packages. The machine now hangs on boot with a blank screen except for > 'GRUB _'. I presume that after the kernel update, grub does not have > what it needs to have in order to access the I2O device, even though it > did after install. I think I can boot from install #1 and access the drive. > > Does anybody know the specifics of what it takes for GRUB to access I2O? You don't say if the Adaptec is used for the root device or not. Note that if it is, somewhere in your /etc/modprobe.conf there must be a line that installs the i20 driver (probably via an "alias" command). If that's missing, the upgraded kernel didn't include the i20 driver in your initrd image and yes, the boot will hang. That being said, it sounds more like you use a controller OTHER than the RAID card for the root filesystem and the kernel installation got confused and set up the boot to try to talk to the RAID card as the root filesystem instead of the other drive. I say this because you're hanging at the grub prompt and not at a "can't switchroot" message. You need to boot off the rescue CD and look at the /mnt/sysimage/boot/grub/grub.conf file and see what the NEW kernel thinks is the root filesystem as opposed to the previous kernel thought. Make the new one look like the old one and try a reboot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - You possess a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 22 17:07:38 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:07:38 -0800 Subject: Fedore Core 3 hangs on install In-Reply-To: <421A42C0.8080600@hyperbole-software.com> References: <421A42C0.8080600@hyperbole-software.com> Message-ID: <421B66DA.6080305@vitalstream.com> Carl Reynolds wrote: > I am trying to install Fedora Core 3 on an AMD 2800 64 with 512MB RAM > and 112GB HD. The Hardrive is a WesternDigital WD1200JD-00H SATA drive. > I am using a Giga-Byte mother board with a ViA on board chip set. There > is a video controller built in to the chip set and that is what I'm > using as video output. > > When I start the installation process the installer hangs with an > X-Server failure almost as soon as I select Graphical Install. > > I performed the installation in text mode using 'linux text xfs' to > start the install. > > Now that the installation is complete, the machine hangs on re-boot on a > blank screen with the words "Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667)'" at the > top of the screen and several seemingly randomly placed dots on the > screen below it. > > The CDs for the install are for x86-64. > > Does anyone know what the problem is here and how I can get around it? This is not an x86-64 issue, it's a video card driver problem. I'm almost certain you have an nVidia card, and they are notoriously cranky during installations. Do a text install (enter "linux text" at the "boot" prompt, then go to nVidia's site and get the latest driver for your hardware. Install it per their instructions, then run "system-config-display" and make sure you specify the new nVidia driver. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 22 17:16:55 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:16:55 -0800 Subject: Swapping Motherboards? In-Reply-To: <34451.207.177.227.29.1109091149.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <34451.207.177.227.29.1109091149.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <421B6907.30005@vitalstream.com> Harold Hallikainen wrote: > In anticipation of my server eventually dying, I'm trying to come up with > a way to have almost zero down time. The machine has two removable drives. > One holds /home . The other holds everything else. I'm thinking of using > Norton Ghost to duplicate these drives. Then, should I lose a drive, I > just plug in my backup. > > The next trick is, if I lose the motherboard or power supply, I move the > drives from the dead machine to a live machine. The motherboard in the > existing server is no longer in production and getting expensive (Tyan > Tiger 200). How much trouble am I likely to have if the motherboard is not > an exact duplicate of the one I'm running now when I move drives? We do that a lot. The primary issues are: 1. SCSI drives: Make sure the mobos use the SAME SCSI chipset. If they don't, you'll have to boot the new mobo in rescue mode, change the /etc/modprobe.conf (or /etc/modules.conf for 2.4 kernels) to reflect the new mobo's SCSI controller, then rebuild the initrd image to use the new SCSI driver, and if using lilo, rerunning lilo. This is not an issue with IDE drives. 2. Network card drivers. Similar to the SCSI issue above, you will have to modify modules.conf or modprobe.conf to reflect the new network cards. 3. Video drivers. You may have to modify your X config file (or run redhat/system-config-display) to reflect a different video card. 4. Memory: As far as memory and such, unless you make a massive change (e.g. go from 2GB to 32GB), don't worry about it. Linux will resize. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From harold at hallikainen.com Tue Feb 22 17:43:34 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:43:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Swapping Motherboards? In-Reply-To: <421B6907.30005@vitalstream.com> References: <34451.207.177.227.29.1109091149.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <421B6907.30005@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <34922.207.177.227.29.1109094214.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> OK, so I have a chance! This is using IDE drives, Intel ethernet chip(s), and SMP. Does the new motherboard need to have 2 processors, or will Linux figure that out during boot? THANKS! Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 22 18:03:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:03:29 -0800 Subject: Swapping Motherboards? In-Reply-To: <34922.207.177.227.29.1109094214.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <34451.207.177.227.29.1109091149.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <421B6907.30005@vitalstream.com> <34922.207.177.227.29.1109094214.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <421B73F1.2000200@vitalstream.com> Harold Hallikainen wrote: > OK, so I have a chance! This is using IDE drives, Intel ethernet chip(s), > and SMP. Does the new motherboard need to have 2 processors, or will Linux > figure that out during boot? I think a chart will be helpful: Old Board New Board Status SMP SMP Fine SMP UP Fine, but runs in UP mode UP SMP Fine, but upgrade kernel to SMP UP UP Fine In case 2, you will be running an SMP kernel on a UP machine. It'll run, but it'll be a tad slower than if you ran a UP kernel on a UP machine. In case 3, only one processor will be active. Upgrade to an SMP kernel as soon as possible and tell grub to use the SMP kernel. One other caveat: In case your new motherboard uses a different processor, remember that i686 code will run on an AMD Athlon, but Athlon code will NOT run on an i686. Personally, I prefer Athlons with Athlon-optimized kernels. They're faster. Also note that an AMD Opteron will run both i686 and Athlon code, but neither the i686 nor the Athlon can run Opteron code--it's those extra, pesky 32-bits that get in the way. ;-) (Opterons, BTW, just simply ROCK under Linux!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From dlpeterson at cableone.net Tue Feb 22 20:35:23 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:35:23 -0700 Subject: Fedore Core 3 hangs on install In-Reply-To: <421B66DA.6080305@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Look at your motherboard specifications. If your motherboard is using a VIA chipset and you're using the on-board video, it's more likely that it's using UniChrome graphics with an IGP chipset, S3. VIA currently has a driver for the 2.4 kernel at http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2. Keep in mind that FC2 and 3 use the 2.6 kernel. I had issues with the installation of FC3 x86-64 as well, but I did not have that difficulty with Redhat Enterprise or SuSE 9.1. I have found nothing that works but the VESA driver that is default upon installation. One other thing you can try at boot is: no framebuffer or resolution=1024x768 Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:08 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Fedore Core 3 hangs on install Carl Reynolds wrote: > I am trying to install Fedora Core 3 on an AMD 2800 64 with 512MB RAM > and 112GB HD. The Hardrive is a WesternDigital WD1200JD-00H SATA drive. > I am using a Giga-Byte mother board with a ViA on board chip set. There > is a video controller built in to the chip set and that is what I'm > using as video output. > > When I start the installation process the installer hangs with an > X-Server failure almost as soon as I select Graphical Install. > > I performed the installation in text mode using 'linux text xfs' to > start the install. > > Now that the installation is complete, the machine hangs on re-boot on a > blank screen with the words "Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667)'" at the > top of the screen and several seemingly randomly placed dots on the > screen below it. > > The CDs for the install are for x86-64. > > Does anyone know what the problem is here and how I can get around it? This is not an x86-64 issue, it's a video card driver problem. I'm almost certain you have an nVidia card, and they are notoriously cranky during installations. Do a text install (enter "linux text" at the "boot" prompt, then go to nVidia's site and get the latest driver for your hardware. Install it per their instructions, then run "system-config-display" and make sure you specify the new nVidia driver. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From Todd.Carter at noaa.gov Tue Feb 22 22:05:05 2005 From: Todd.Carter at noaa.gov (Todd Carter) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:05:05 -0800 Subject: Grub Broken with onboard scsi + raid card Message-ID: <421BAC91.5040604@noaa.gov> Redhat loads fine to a 3ware Raid 5 array and recognizes a scsi drive attached to the onboard scsi interface. After the install and reboot Grub reports a "Hard Drive Error" and quits. However, if the scsi drive is disconnected from the motherboard then it boots fine from the Raid Array. I would like to be able to use both of these drive interfaces. Is there any way to get them to co-exist? I have no partitions on the scsi (sda) drive. I load RedHat and Grub to the MBR on sdb (Raid Card) and made sure I changed the drive order in the install interface. The bios hard drive boot order has the 'add-on card' then 'scsi drive' in that order. I've read that Grub can get confused as to what the bios is telling it as far as drive information but am not sure how to proceed from there. How do I find out what information the bios is giving Grub in order to re-map the drive? If that's what needs to be done then I'm unsure about the procedure. Configuration: Tyan Thunder k7xPro (s2469) motherboard onboard Adaptec AIC-7902W SCSI 3ware 8506-4LP pci card configured for Raid 5 Grub device map has: (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sdb Thanks, Todd From nj.collis at shaw.ca Tue Feb 22 22:20:56 2005 From: nj.collis at shaw.ca (vincy) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:20:56 -0700 Subject: Windows hangs during grub boot Message-ID: <1109110856.4694.0.camel@S010600a0833b10af.ed.shawcable.net> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: vincy Subject: Window hangs during grub boot Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:46:36 -0700 Size: 2286 URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 22 22:35:13 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:35:13 -0800 Subject: Grub Broken with onboard scsi + raid card In-Reply-To: <421BAC91.5040604@noaa.gov> References: <421BAC91.5040604@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <421BB3A1.4070302@vitalstream.com> Todd Carter wrote: > Redhat loads fine to a 3ware Raid 5 array and recognizes a scsi drive > attached to the onboard scsi interface. > > After the install and reboot Grub reports a "Hard Drive Error" and quits. > > However, if the scsi drive is disconnected from the motherboard then it > boots fine from the Raid Array. > I would like to be able to use both of these drive interfaces. Is there > any way to get them to co-exist? > > I have no partitions on the scsi (sda) drive. I load RedHat and Grub to > the MBR on sdb (Raid Card) and made sure I changed the drive order in > the install interface. The bios hard drive boot order has the 'add-on > card' then 'scsi drive' in that order. > > I've read that Grub can get confused as to what the bios is telling it > as far as drive information but am not sure how to proceed > from there. How do I find out what information the bios is giving Grub > in order to re-map the drive? If that's what needs to be done then I'm > unsure about the procedure. BIOSes often renumber devices regardless of the boot order. The trick is that, when the drive is connected to the on-board SCSI, your BIOS is probably regarding it as device 0x80 (even though it's not the boot device) and the RAID as device 0x81. When the drive isn't connected, device 0x80 is the RAID. When you installed grub, it probably was with the internal SCSI disconnected, so grub wrote the config file as having the root volume on device 0x80 (hd0 in grub parlance). However, when the drive is connected, the RAID becomes 0x81 again (hd1 in grub parlance). Boot with the drive disconnected. When Linux comes up, edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and change the references in it from "hd0" to "hd1" (ALL references). Then shut down, reconnect your SCSI drive and power back up. I'll bet it works. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 22 22:38:14 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:38:14 -0800 Subject: Windows hangs during grub boot In-Reply-To: <1109110856.4694.0.camel@S010600a0833b10af.ed.shawcable.net> References: <1109110856.4694.0.camel@S010600a0833b10af.ed.shawcable.net> Message-ID: <421BB456.1080303@vitalstream.com> vincy wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Window hangs during grub boot > From: > vincy > Date: > Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:46:36 -0700 > To: > fedora-list at redhat.com > > To: > fedora-list at redhat.com > > > Hello, > > I had a computer with windows 98 and fedora FC3 dual booting on it. I > recently tried to upgrade to window 2000 but it hangs after I select the > open from grub. Linux works fine. I tried all different options except > re-formating. Can someone help me. Thanks Windows 2000 overwrites the MBR boot. You'll need to boot FC3 in rescue mode (you DID make the rescue CD, right?), then: # chroot /mnt/sysimage # grub-install /dev/hda # exit #exit Note that installing ANY M$ product AFTER Linux will kill the grub MBR record (M$ thinks they own EVERYTHING, including the MBR). > > Noel. > > grub.conf file > > #boot=/dev/hda > default=0 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > hiddenmenu > title Fedora Core (2.6.10-1.766_FC3) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.10-1.766_FC3 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb > quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.10-1.766_FC3.img > title Fedora Core (2.6.10-1.760_FC3) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.10-1.760_FC3 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb > quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.10-1.760_FC3.img > title Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667) > root (hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet > initrd /initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img > title Windows > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > > # fdisk -l > Disk /dev/hda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hda1 * 1 4881 39198687+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) > /dev/hda2 4881 4893 102399+ 83 Linux > /dev/hda3 4893 14594 77919653 8e Linux LVM > > #df > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 > 76377160 4267404 68230028 6% / > /dev/hda2 99146 15275 78752 17% /boot > none 63144 0 63144 0% /dev/shm > > > # sfdisk -d /dev/hda > # partition table of /dev/hda > unit: sectors > > /dev/hda1 : start= 17, size= 78397375, Id= c, bootable > /dev/hda2 : start= 78397438, size= 204799, Id=83 > /dev/hda3 : start= 78602237, size=155839306, Id=8e > /dev/hda4 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - LOOK OUT!!! BEHIND YOU!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From scottb at bxwa.com Tue Feb 22 22:45:03 2005 From: scottb at bxwa.com (Scott Becker) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:45:03 -0800 Subject: RHEL 4 Update problem In-Reply-To: <421B6585.2010106@vitalstream.com> References: <421A0F3C.70606@bxwa.com> <421B6585.2010106@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <421BB5EF.5010500@bxwa.com> Thanks for the feedback. All my partitions are on the one raid volume. After seeing a simular problem in bugzilla, #149184, I booted linux rescue and looked everything over, didn't see anything wrong, so I ran 'grub-install /dev/i2o/hda' and now it works fine. It's my understanding that you're not supposed to have to run this just because you changed the kernel, but for some reason it was necessary. The changelog for grub shows a patch for the i2o_block driver which is new an now needed for the adaptec. The i2o_block maintainer is aware of the problem. I'm not sure about the state of RHEL 4 in general, it refused to install successfully on my sata drive at home (failing various ways depending on the configuration). I was happy to see 4 released because I was just starting to setup a new machine for our main web site and the new kernel should take better advantage of dual hyperthreaded cpus (four virtuals total). However I'm a bit nervous about updates breaking it. A few weeks ago an update to RHEL 3 killed DNS on another server, requiring me to run 'chkconfig named on' to get it back in action (it took two days before I realized why I could no longer run up2date). thanks again scottb Rick Stevens wrote: > You don't say if the Adaptec is used for the root device or not... > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Feb 22 22:46:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:46:35 -0800 Subject: RHEL 4 Update problem In-Reply-To: <421BB5EF.5010500@bxwa.com> References: <421A0F3C.70606@bxwa.com> <421B6585.2010106@vitalstream.com> <421BB5EF.5010500@bxwa.com> Message-ID: <421BB64B.1010100@vitalstream.com> Scott Becker wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. All my partitions are on the one raid volume. > After seeing a simular problem in bugzilla, #149184, I booted linux > rescue and looked everything over, didn't see anything wrong, so I ran > 'grub-install /dev/i2o/hda' and now it works fine. It's my understanding > that you're not supposed to have to run this just because you changed > the kernel, but for some reason it was necessary. The changelog for grub > shows a patch for the i2o_block driver which is new an now needed for > the adaptec. The i2o_block maintainer is aware of the problem. Oh, yeah, I can see why that's necessary. grub has to know about the i20 driver layer on top of the low-level SCSI driver for the RAID to work. Should be taken care of by a rebuild of the initrd image, but then again... > I'm not sure about the state of RHEL 4 in general, it refused to install > successfully on my sata drive at home (failing various ways depending on > the configuration). I was happy to see 4 released because I was just > starting to setup a new machine for our main web site and the new kernel > should take better advantage of dual hyperthreaded cpus (four virtuals > total). However I'm a bit nervous about updates breaking it. A few weeks > ago an update to RHEL 3 killed DNS on another server, requiring me to > run 'chkconfig named on' to get it back in action (it took two days > before I realized why I could no longer run up2date). That's what "dig" is for. The first time something has an issue, I do a "dig" against the host name, followed by a traceroute. Helps isolate network issues. Well, remember that RHEL4 is based on Fedora Core 3, but it has been, uhm, "tweaked" to make it EL4. I'm not surprised there are some teething problems with it. FC3 was certainly not a smooth birth. Sorry I wasn't of more help. For the price they charge for EL4, you'd think they'd offer a bit more help. Remember, this list is by volunteers. Most of us aren't Red Hat employees (at least I'm not). (poking Matt G. in the ribs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - LOOK OUT!!! BEHIND YOU!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 00:04:02 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:04:02 -0800 Subject: user mounts of hotplug drives Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0502221604180056a0@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have a 1394 drive which I move between a number of systems. I've got some funky ways of mounting it but I want to do it more naturally. I'd like to just mount the drive under my home directory using the mount command but it's not working due to permissions. I tried this: /dev/sda1 /home/mark/Audio1 vfat rw,noauto,user 0 0 /dev/sda2 /home/mark/Gigs ext3 rw,noauto,user 0 0 I'm able to mount this as a user, but the directory /home/mark/Gigs which is owned by mark:mark before the mount, switches ownership to root:root when mark mounts the drive and I cannot write to the top of the drive. I can write to the first directory 'Gigs' on the 1394 drive, but not to the top. How can I change this fstab entry to allow me to directly mount the drive in my home directory and have write permission? I'm guessing that I must tell the system in fstab to give user mark write access but I cannot figure out what the syntax is. Also, if it's any different for vfat vs. ext3 please point that out. Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 23 02:05:13 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:05:13 -0800 Subject: user mounts of hotplug drives In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0502221604180056a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0502221604180056a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <421BE4D9.2090803@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I have a 1394 drive which I move between a number of systems. I've > got some funky ways of mounting it but I want to do it more naturally. > I'd like to just mount the drive under my home directory using the > mount command but it's not working due to permissions. I tried this: > > /dev/sda1 /home/mark/Audio1 vfat > rw,noauto,user 0 0 > /dev/sda2 /home/mark/Gigs ext3 > rw,noauto,user 0 0 > > I'm able to mount this as a user, but the directory /home/mark/Gigs > which is owned by mark:mark before the mount, switches ownership to > root:root when mark mounts the drive and I cannot write to the top of > the drive. I can write to the first directory 'Gigs' on the 1394 > drive, but not to the top. Eh? If I'm reading that right, you CAN write to /home/mark/Gigs/Gigs, but NOT /home/mark/Gigs. Is that correct? > How can I change this fstab entry to allow me to directly mount the > drive in my home directory and have write permission? I'm guessing > that I must tell the system in fstab to give user mark write access > but I cannot figure out what the syntax is. The permission of the filesystem will override the mountpoint's original ownership. After the mount, become root and change the ownership of the mountpoint to mark:mark. This should change the filesystem's ownership. > Also, if it's any different for vfat vs. ext3 please point that out. Remember that vfat has no concept of ownership or anything of that nature. You can specify "owner" in the options for vfat, so all files are "owned" by the UID and GID of the process which mounted it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt anymore! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From nofri at luk.or.id Wed Feb 23 03:23:49 2005 From: nofri at luk.or.id (Nofriyadi Nurdam) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 03:23:49 GMT Subject: Grub does not appear In-Reply-To: <1109038668.7155.1.camel@c515816-a> References: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <1109038668.7155.1.camel@c515816-a> Message-ID: <20050223032349.21309.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> I would like to do a "grub-install' because I do not have rescue disk. But I have read in manual that the procedure "grub-install" can make my computer unbootable. Can you tell me please, how to avoid the risk? I need Windows XP, Windows ME and RH9 on my computer. What is your opinion if I install RH9 once more on my computer? Will it solve my problem? I don't need the old files in linux partition anymore. Thanks in advance. Nofri Otto Haliburton writes: > On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 01:19 +0000, Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: >> Hi Gurus, >> >> I had RH9 and Windows XP on my computer. Both were running well. I used GRUB >> for booting. >> Then I installed Windows ME. After installing, GRUB does not appear so that >> I can not use RH9 and Windows XP. >> Can you tell me what I have to do so that I can use RH9, Windows XP and >> Windows ME on my computer. >> Thanks in advance >> Nofriyadi Nurdam >> > yes that is correct windows doesn't honor any other boot loader in the > boot block, you need to boot with the rescue disk or the first disk of > the installation set and do rescue and do a "grub-install" >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe > -- > Otto Haliburton > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Wed Feb 23 04:13:29 2005 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:13:29 -0600 Subject: Grub does not appear In-Reply-To: <20050223032349.21309.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <001401c5195e$07f19420$4601a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Nofriyadi Nurdam > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:24 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Grub does not appear > > > I would like to do a "grub-install' because I do not have rescue disk. > But I have read in manual that the procedure "grub-install" can make my > computer unbootable. > Can you tell me please, how to avoid the risk? > > I need Windows XP, Windows ME and RH9 on my computer. What is your opinion > if I install RH9 once more on my computer? Will it solve my problem? > I don't need the old files in linux partition anymore. > > Thanks in advance. > Nofri > well, it seems to me that your computer is already unbootable to linux and maybe xp, not sure, but to make it bootable to linux again you will need to do a grub-install and this should be low risk, but anytime you deal with these things there is a risk. You reduce the risk by creating rescue disk for windows and linux. Finally, if you want to reinstall rh9 you can do that it doexn't matter, if you take the 1st installation disk it allows you to boot in rescue mode and from there you will need to do a grub-install whether it is from a new installation or using to old installation, you can't get around that. > > Otto Haliburton writes: > > > On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 01:19 +0000, Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > >> Hi Gurus, > >> > >> I had RH9 and Windows XP on my computer. Both were running well. I used > GRUB > >> for booting. > >> Then I installed Windows ME. After installing, GRUB does not appear so > that > >> I can not use RH9 and Windows XP. > >> Can you tell me what I have to do so that I can use RH9, Windows XP and > >> Windows ME on my computer. > >> Thanks in advance > >> Nofriyadi Nurdam > >> > > yes that is correct windows doesn't honor any other boot loader in the > > boot block, you need to boot with the rescue disk or the first disk of > > the installation set and do rescue and do a "grub-install" > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Redhat-install-list mailing list > >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > >> Subject: unsubscribe > > -- > > Otto Haliburton > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com Wed Feb 23 04:28:35 2005 From: redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com (Carl Reynolds) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:28:35 -0500 Subject: Fedore Core 3 hangs on install In-Reply-To: <421A42C0.8080600@hyperbole-software.com> References: <421A42C0.8080600@hyperbole-software.com> Message-ID: <421C0673.4050903@hyperbole-software.com> Carl Reynolds wrote: > I am trying to install Fedora Core 3 on an AMD 2800 64 with 512MB RAM > and 112GB HD. The Hardrive is a WesternDigital WD1200JD-00H SATA > drive. I am using a Giga-Byte mother board with a ViA on board chip > set. There is a video controller built in to the chip set and that is > what I'm using as video output. > > When I start the installation process the installer hangs with an > X-Server failure almost as soon as I select Graphical Install. > > I performed the installation in text mode using 'linux text xfs' to > start the install. > > Now that the installation is complete, the machine hangs on re-boot on > a blank screen with the words "Booting 'Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667)'" at > the top of the screen and several seemingly randomly placed dots on > the screen below it. > > The CDs for the install are for x86-64. > > Does anyone know what the problem is here and how I can get around it? > > Thanks, > > Carl. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > Darian and Rick, Thanks for your replys. Darian you were right, I was trying to install using the video of the onboard chip set which is ViA. Today I installed a video card in the AGV port and Linux recognized it right away and is now running happily with the video card. The video card is and nVidia GForce 4 and seems to work just fine. Thanks for your help, Carl. From bhamal at wlink.com.np Tue Feb 22 14:26:03 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:11:03 +0545 Subject: moving some directories to the New partition but still preserving the links Message-ID: <000201c5194e$e1327110$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Hi ! I have Red Hat 8 on a intel P 4 machine with 512 MB memory . Thanks to all , I was able to partition my 60 GB hard drive creating extended drives . Now I want to move some of directories under my root to my extended partition that has already been formatted with mkfs.ext3. I have got the procedure to move /tmp and /var to their own shared partition . I want to move /usr , /applications , /backup , /home , misc , /proc , /tmp . I want to mount /dev/hda5 as /usr & /dev/hda6 as /home or what ever most suitable . But my greatest worry is how to make sure that the previously installed applications work after the move . How to preserve the symbolic & hard links as files are moved across different partitions. Please advice if it is possible to do a successful move of some of the directories under / and still preserve the links and make the applications work. Thanks in advance , cheers, bj My root directory structure is as ffs :- applications backup bin boot dev etc home initrd lib lost+found misc mnt opt proc root sbin tftpboot tmp usr var From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 13:31:29 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:31:29 -0800 Subject: user mounts of hotplug drives In-Reply-To: <421BE4D9.2090803@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0502221604180056a0@mail.gmail.com> <421BE4D9.2090803@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05022305313e6818b4@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:05:13 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a 1394 drive which I move between a number of systems. I've > > got some funky ways of mounting it but I want to do it more naturally. > > I'd like to just mount the drive under my home directory using the > > mount command but it's not working due to permissions. I tried this: > > > > /dev/sda1 /home/mark/Audio1 vfat > > rw,noauto,user 0 0 > > /dev/sda2 /home/mark/Gigs ext3 > > rw,noauto,user 0 0 > > > > I'm able to mount this as a user, but the directory /home/mark/Gigs > > which is owned by mark:mark before the mount, switches ownership to > > root:root when mark mounts the drive and I cannot write to the top of > > the drive. I can write to the first directory 'Gigs' on the 1394 > > drive, but not to the top. > > Eh? If I'm reading that right, you CAN write to /home/mark/Gigs/Gigs, > but NOT /home/mark/Gigs. Is that correct? Yes, that was correct. Sorry if it wasn't overly clear. I thought it was but I'm sitting here looking at the problem, right? > > > How can I change this fstab entry to allow me to directly mount the > > drive in my home directory and have write permission? I'm guessing > > that I must tell the system in fstab to give user mark write access > > but I cannot figure out what the syntax is. > > The permission of the filesystem will override the mountpoint's original > ownership. After the mount, become root and change the ownership of the > mountpoint to mark:mark. This should change the filesystem's ownership. OK, it did. Is this persistent? Will it be there this morning when the machien comes up? (Likely I'll find out before youwrite back, but that's the question.) If it is persistent then where is the info saved? Since /home/mark/Gigs was already owned by mark:mark why does root have to say in this case that it remains owned by mark:mark after somethign is mounted there? Is that infomsaved with /home/mark/Gigs so that if I rename it things will continue to work> Or is it saved somewher else and root would have to do this again later? > > > Also, if it's any different for vfat vs. ext3 please point that out. > > Remember that vfat has no concept of ownership or anything of that > nature. You can specify "owner" in the options for vfat, so all files > are "owned" by the UID and GID of the process which mounted it. Yes, that I understood. I was more concerned about the the actual mount point (/home/mark/Audio1) and whether I'd be able to write at the top of that after the drive was mounted. Thanks! - Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 23 16:55:46 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:55:46 -0800 Subject: Grub does not appear In-Reply-To: <20050223032349.21309.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> References: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <1109038668.7155.1.camel@c515816-a> <20050223032349.21309.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> Message-ID: <421CB592.7000803@vitalstream.com> Nofriyadi Nurdam wrote: > > I would like to do a "grub-install' because I do not have rescue disk. > But I have read in manual that the procedure "grub-install" can make my > computer unbootable. > Can you tell me please, how to avoid the risk? > I need Windows XP, Windows ME and RH9 on my computer. What is your > opinion if I install RH9 once more on my computer? Will it solve my > problem? > I don't need the old files in linux partition anymore. > Thanks in advance. All "grub-install" does is overwrite the MBR (master boot record) of your boot disk, thereby installing grub. Since grub depends on the /boot/grub/grub.conf file correctly describing your hard drive layout (at least where the Linux' /boot and / filesystems are as well as the Windows partition is), if that file is correct, you should be fine. I'd highly recommend making emergency boot disks of both operating systems. Under RH9, there's a "mkbootdisk" utility (I think that's what it's called..."man -k boot" should give you the manpage on it) that will allow you to make such a floppy for Linux. Windows also has some utility that does a similar thing. I'd also recommend that you update your Linux to FC3. RH9 has been dead for almost a year now (RH support stopped in April, Fedora Legacy has taken over but I don't know for how much longer). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 23 17:13:58 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:13:58 -0800 Subject: moving some directories to the New partition but still preserving the links In-Reply-To: <000201c5194e$e1327110$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> References: <000201c5194e$e1327110$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Message-ID: <421CB9D6.5070002@vitalstream.com> bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I have Red Hat 8 on a intel P 4 machine with 512 MB memory . > > Thanks to all , I was able to partition my 60 GB hard drive creating > extended drives . "extended drives"? Eh? Do you mean partitions in the extended partition (partition numbers > 4)? > Now I want to move some of directories under my root to my extended > partition that has already been formatted with mkfs.ext3. > > I have got the procedure to move /tmp and /var to their own shared > partition . /tmp and /var are root mountpoints. Unless you have a partition you're using for /var, mount /var, "mkdir /var/tmp", then "rm -rf /tmp; ln -s /var/tmp /tmp", I can't see how you can share a partition for /tmp and /var. > I want to move /usr , /applications , /backup , /home , misc , /proc , /tmp > . > > I want to mount /dev/hda5 as /usr & /dev/hda6 as /home or what ever most > suitable . Fine. > But my greatest worry is how to make sure that the previously installed > applications work after the move . They should work fine. > How to preserve the symbolic & hard links as files are moved across > different partitions. It's rather dependent on how you created the symbolic links. If they're relative (i.e. they don't start with a "/"), then they should migrate just fine. Even most that have absolute paths (starting with a "/") should be fine. You only run into issues with absolute paths if the root of the path ceases to exist. Hard links are another matter. Hard links cannot span file systems, so if a hard link references a file on another filesystem, you're SOL. You will have to redo it as a symbolic link and that may break some applications (IMHO an app that depends on a hard link should be tossed out anyway). > Please advice if it is possible to do a successful move of some of the > directories under / and still preserve the links and make the applications > work. Without knowing which applications you're speaking of, we can't say. The odds are that you'll be fine. The vast majority of systems have separate partitions for /, /usr, /var and /home. > Thanks in advance , > > cheers, > bj > > > > My root directory structure is as ffs :- > > > applications > backup > bin > boot > dev > etc > home > initrd > lib > lost+found > misc > mnt > opt > proc > root > sbin > tftpboot > tmp > usr > var Pretty normal, except for the "applications" and "backup" directories. NOTE: You can't move "/proc", as it doesn't contain "real" files. It is a virtual filesystem, created by the system on the fly. Don't move /dev either. Actually, I'd recommend not moving any of the following: /bin /boot /dev /etc /initrd /lib /lost+found (well, it's created by "mke2fs") /mnt /proc /tftpboot I'm lukewarm on moving /tmp. You can, but it shouldn't get very big. Putting /usr, /var and /home on separate filesytems is a good idea. /var shouldn't get too big. The biggest space suckers on /var are the logs (/var/log) and the yum cache (/var/cache/yum, assuming you use yum, of course). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "You think that's tough? Try herding cats!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From abrahjm at auburn.edu Wed Feb 23 18:51:08 2005 From: abrahjm at auburn.edu (Joseph Abrahams) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:51:08 -0600 Subject: ATI Radeon Pro Installation Message-ID: Hi. I recently installed Redhat 9.0. I'm trying to get my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro to work correctly. For starters I didn't have the kernel source files installed. After installing them and letting linux update them, my /usr/src/ folder now contains Linux2.4.20-31.9. I made a link to this folder called LInux, but during installation of the ATI driver "fglrx_4_3_0-8.10.19-1.i386.rpm" I am told I have unresolved symbols. ATI's solution to this is work around the errors by the following commands: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux/.config make oldconfig make dep and then reinstalling the kernel by /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/sh make.sh at this point I am told that my /usr/src/linux/include/ drectory has bad links and that I should change the links in /usr/include and /usr/src/linux from "" to "2.4.20-8". This seems wrong since my /usr/src/ folder contains Linux2.4.20-31.9. Also, once this is worked out, I have a dell 2005FPW wide-screen monitor and would like to set this to run in optimal resolution. Thanks for the help. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Feb 23 19:34:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:34:35 -0800 Subject: ATI Radeon Pro Installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <421CDACB.4000808@vitalstream.com> Joseph Abrahams wrote: > Hi. I recently installed Redhat 9.0. I'm trying to get my ATI Radeon > 9800 Pro to work correctly. For starters I didn't have the kernel source > files installed. After installing them and letting linux update them, my > /usr/src/ folder now contains Linux2.4.20-31.9. I made a link to this > folder called LInux, but during installation of the ATI driver > "fglrx_4_3_0-8.10.19-1.i386.rpm" I am told I have unresolved symbols. > > ATI's solution to this is work around the errors by the following > commands: > cp /boot/config-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux/.config > make oldconfig > make dep > and then reinstalling the kernel by /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/sh > make.sh > at this point I am told that my /usr/src/linux/include/ drectory has bad > links and that I should change the links in /usr/include and > /usr/src/linux from "" to "2.4.20-8". > > This seems wrong since my /usr/src/ folder contains Linux2.4.20-31.9. > > Also, once this is worked out, I have a dell 2005FPW wide-screen monitor > and would like to set this to run in optimal resolution. You must install a kernel source RPM that matches your running kernel. From what you say above, you're still running the ancient 2.4.20-8 kernel (which was the one shipped with RH9), yet you've installed a kernel source RPM for 2.4.20-31.9. They don't match. This is equivalent to having a 4-cylinder Ford Escort, but buying engine parts for a Chevy LT06 V8 for a Corvette. Either update your running kernel to 2.4.20-31.9 (highly recommended!) or install the kernel source RPM for 2.4.20-8 (ugh!). Then try to do the ATI stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Microsoft is a cross between The Borg and the Ferengi. - - Unfortunately they use Borg to do their marketing and Ferengi to - - do their programming." -- Simon Slavin - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Thu Feb 24 05:40:36 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:40:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: RealVNC In-Reply-To: <20050222151231.GA27370@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: Thanks that worked great. On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 08:53:16PM -0700, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > Upgraded my notebook to FC2 - added my VPN software and installed > > RealVNC. When I try to run RealVNC I get the error > > libstcd++-libc6.1-1.so.2 can't be found (or something like that). > > I also can't find it on the web - found references to it but it's > > not there. > > > > Anyone know where I can get RealVNC complied to run under FC2 > > (I'm taking it that that is the problem). > > How about getting the missing library? It's in > compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.126.i386.rpm on CD-3. > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > Cheers, > -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Wed Feb 23 19:06:37 2005 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 23 Feb 2005 19:06:37 -0000 Subject: Upgrading Kernel in RHAS 2.4 Message-ID: <20050223190637.32511.qmail@webmail31.rediffmail.com> ? Hello, I am running RedHat Linux Advanced server "2.4.9-e.3enterprise" and I want to upgrade the kernel to "2.4.9-e.49". I have not done this before and I cannot afford donwtime for more than 30 minits. I want to prepare myself before I start to upgrade the kernel. I appreciate if anyone can help me with this by giving the detailed steps. Also I have downloaded " kernel-2.4.9-e.49.src.rpm" . Do I need any other patches along with this? let me know if you need any information. Thanks in Advance TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do I need any other patches along with this? let me know if you need any information. Thanks in Advance TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Thu Feb 24 15:13:44 2005 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 24 Feb 2005 15:13:44 -0000 Subject: Upgrading Kernel in RHAS 2.4 Message-ID: <20050224151344.26768.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> Darin, Thank you very much. That was a good one indeed. Actually I was suggested to use just the RPM without the source. Do I need to have valid registration with Redhat to download RPM's ? I have these packages currently installed on my server kernel-2.4.9-e.3 kernel-smp-2.4.9-e.3 kernel-enterprise-2.4.9-e.3 kernel-headers-2.4.9-e.3 In order to upgrade the kernel to "kernel-2.4.9-e.49". Do I need to install all these packages with higher version ? Do I need to take any precaution before I upgrade the kernel like any backup of the important files ? I am sorry as you may find this very basic. I appreciate if someone can help me on this. Thanks in Advance, TG On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 Darin Peterson wrote : >http://cs.boisestate.edu/%7Eamit/teaching/453/lab/linux-kernel.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Tech Guy > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:07 PM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: Upgrading Kernel in RHAS 2.4 > > > > Hello, > > I am running RedHat Linux Advanced server "2.4.9-e.3enterprise" and I want >to upgrade the kernel to "2.4.9-e.49". I have not done this before and I >cannot afford donwtime for more than 30 minits. I want to prepare myself >before I start to upgrade the kernel. > I appreciate if anyone can help me with this by giving the detailed steps. >Also I have downloaded " kernel-2.4.9-e.49.src.rpm" . Do I need any other >patches along with this? > > let me know if you need any information. > > Thanks in Advance > TG > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Feb 24 18:06:59 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:06:59 -0800 Subject: Upgrading Kernel in RHAS 2.4 In-Reply-To: <20050224151344.26768.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> References: <20050224151344.26768.qmail@webmail9.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <421E17C3.5030700@vitalstream.com> Tech Guy wrote: > Darin, > > Thank you very much. That was a good one indeed. > Actually I was suggested to use just the RPM without the source. Do I > need to have valid registration with Redhat to download RPM's ? > I have these packages currently installed on my server > kernel-2.4.9-e.3 > kernel-smp-2.4.9-e.3 > kernel-enterprise-2.4.9-e.3 > kernel-headers-2.4.9-e.3 > > In order to upgrade the kernel to "kernel-2.4.9-e.49". Do I need to > install all these packages with higher version ? > Do I need to take any precaution before I upgrade the kernel like any > backup of the important files ? > > I am sorry as you may find this very basic. > > I appreciate if someone can help me on this. First off, There never was an Advanced Server 2.4. Red Hat offers the Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) product line, currently in three versions, RHEL2.1, RHEL3 and (just recently) RHEL4. In each of those versions exist four products, ES (Enhanced Server), AS (Advanced Server), WS (WorkStation) and DT (DeskTop). AS is the most expensive variant and you really don't need it unless you're running a server that has quad processors or over 4GB of RAM. For 90% of people, ES is more than adequate. You have AS2.1 (Red Hat Advanced Server 2.1). While it runs the 2.4.9-e.3enterprise kernel, that is not the product name. AS2.1 is also REAL near the end of its product lifetime. I would expect Red Hat to stop supporting it sometime in the next 6 months. That means upgrading to some product in the RHEL3 or RHEL4 line (I'd recommend ES3). Now, any RHEL (that's ES, AS, WS and DT) requires a valid Red Hat Network "entitlement" (gads I hate that term) to update your system. You get a one-year update entitlement with the purchase price of any RHEL product. They do make the source RPMs available for anyone, but in your case you'd need to download the kernel source RPM, build the new kernel and install it. This is not difficult, but you need to do it a couple of times to get comfortable doing it. You can make a mistake that renders your machine unusable. Since you're a newbie and can't afford downtime, I would not recommend that you try this. It would be better for you to pay Red Hat for the entitlement and use up2date to update your system. If you're not willing to do that, then you'll have to learn how to build kernels and suffer the downtime if it doesn't work. 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URL: From tomvanoverbeke at yahoo.co.uk Fri Feb 25 15:35:18 2005 From: tomvanoverbeke at yahoo.co.uk (tom van overbeke) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: kickstart install of redhat enterprise 3 via pxe fails Message-ID: <20050225153518.29302.qmail@web26509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm trying to setup a dhcp/tftp server for automatically installing linux rh es3 on our clients. I've setup dhcpd correctly because the client gets the ip address i reserved for it based on the mac address, the kernel and initrd (i used the ones from the pxeboot directory) are correctly transferred to the client, it starts to boot, mounts the root filesystem and then it stops, the last line it prints is: Freeing unused kernel memory It's supposed to fetch the kickstart file on the server and start installing, but it doesn't even make an attempt to do so: i verified this by using http to serve the installation files and the access_log and error_log files are empty. (before that, i tried it with nfs and it seemed to mount the share but also stopped at the same point) this is my dhcpd.conf: ddns-update-style ad-hoc; ignore unknown-clients; not authoritative; allow bootp; allow booting; subnet 172.16.6.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option routers 172.16.6.1; } group { next-server 172.16.6.40; filename "pxelinux.0"; host test1 { hardware ethernet 00:10:DC:9C:3B:91; fixed-address 172.16.6.41; } host hpbak1 { hardware ethernet 00:11:85:E7:1B:22; fixed-address 172.16.6.42; } } my tftp directory looks like this: [root at proliant /]# ls -lR tftpboot/ tftpboot/: total 3380 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2538426 Dec 16 20:17 initrd.img -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 25 10:48 Kickstart_end -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11304 Feb 25 10:32 pxelinux.0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 25 15:50 pxelinux.cfg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 895078 Dec 16 20:17 vmlinuz tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg: total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 232 Feb 25 15:50 default the default file looks like this: default linux serial 0,38400n8 label linux kernel vmlinuz append ksdevice=eth0 console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400 \ load_ramdisk=1 ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/ram0 \ initrd=initrd.img network ks=http://172.16.6.40:/Kickstart/ks-rhes.cfg the relevant lines on the server's messages files are these: 1) when i used nfs: Feb 25 13:55:18 proliant in.tftpd[19932]: RRQ from 172.16.6.41 filename vmlinuz Feb 25 13:55:19 proliant in.tftpd[19933]: RRQ from 172.16.6.41 filename initrd.img Feb 25 14:55:37 proliant dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:10:dc:9c:3b:91 via eth0 Feb 25 14:55:37 proliant dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 172.16.6.41 to 00:10:dc:9c:3b:91 via eth0 Feb 25 14:55:37 proliant dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:10:dc:9c:3b:91 via eth0 Feb 25 14:55:37 proliant dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 172.16.6.41 to 00:10:dc:9c:3b:91 via eth0 Feb 25 14:55:37 proliant dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 172.16.6.41 (172.16.6.40) from 00:10:dc:9c:3b:91 via eth0 Feb 25 14:55:37 proliant dhcpd: DHCPACK on 172.16.6.41 to 00:10:dc:9c:3b:91 via eth0 Feb 25 14:55:47 proliant rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from xxxxxxxx:612 for /n etinstall/Kickstart (/netinstall) Feb 25 14:56:02 proliant rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from xxxxxxxx:616 for /n etinstall/RedHat (/netinstall) and when i tried it with http: simply this: Feb 25 14:55:45 proliant in.tftpd[20128]: RRQ from 172.16.6.41 filename vmlinuz Feb 25 14:55:46 proliant in.tftpd[20129]: RRQ from 172.16.6.41 filename initrd.img Any pointers ? thanks, Tom. PS. While the machine is doing nothing, i can ping it on the ip address that the dhcp server offered, so network communications still seem to be ok at that point. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From dlpeterson at cableone.net Fri Feb 25 15:51:24 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:51:24 -0700 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The best recommendation for you at this point is to go to www.linux.org, click Documentation, and start reading. Otherwise someone will have to reproduce what has already been done. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Simon Moradi Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:48 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: (no subject) Hei! I'm a biginer of red hat, and I've some problem with motherboard ( Abit IS7 series), because there is no driver for it in linux ( I don't have driver). for example the sound card ( it's integrated in mothere board) do not work. I do not even know how to see the parts of my hard disk or flopy, if I need to chek out, or delet or... some file. like in windows we can right click on start then explore. and so on. I wish to have some friend to help me when ever I've this kind of problems. can you help me please? Simon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bhamal at wlink.com.np Fri Feb 25 05:20:54 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:05:54 +0545 Subject: Error : cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE ! Message-ID: <001201c51afa$c619c150$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Hi ! I am using Red Hat 8.0 with kernel 2.4.20-30.8 -legacy and kernel 2.4.20-30.8 -legacybigmem . At times , but not regularly , I get the ff error . cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE ! This message pops up after I boot successfully and after the login screen appears . I am able to login successfully and work . The other error I face at time is when I join my USB flash drive . I find USB.c spawning very fast error message . These are errors that pop up sometimes . Is there any way to remove it . Thank you for your help in advance. Cheers, bj From bill.brunt at quest.com Fri Feb 25 16:34:16 2005 From: bill.brunt at quest.com (Bill Brunt) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:34:16 -0800 Subject: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY Message-ID: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A620A73@irvmbxw01.quest.com> I'm getting the error "V3 DSA signature: NOKEY" when trying to install the compat-stdlibc++.296.... rpm. I googled this and am a little bewildered via the responses. How would I remedy this error? I'm trying to install Oracle9iR2 on RH ES4 and I think this is a rpm required. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 25 17:01:39 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:01:39 -0800 Subject: HELP on optimizing postgresql on redhat 9 In-Reply-To: <20050225051950.DF4A31F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050225051950.DF4A31F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <421F59F3.40607@vitalstream.com> sandeep shivasharan wrote: > hi all, > > i have RedHat 9 with postgres-7.3 installed on a P-IV 2.4Ghz 1GB of RAM. > i am also running jboss app. server. as my database is growing, i need to plan > for optimizing the app server and database server to its best. can anybody > tell me any suggestion, do's n don'ts and a proper way to do the same. Your best bet is the documentation on the PostgreSQL site. I run PostgreSQL here but it's not particularly active and I've not had to tweak it very heavily (we use it as an LDAP back end and for storage of appointment calendars and address books). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... - - ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart at sjsears.com Fri Feb 25 17:08:28 2005 From: stuart at sjsears.com (Stuart Sears) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:08:28 +0000 Subject: kickstart install of redhat enterprise 3 via pxe fails In-Reply-To: <20050225153518.29302.qmail@web26509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050225153518.29302.qmail@web26509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1109351308.16135.31.camel@rhlaptop.absolutelyplastered.com> On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 15:35 +0000, tom van overbeke wrote: ks=http://172.16.6.40:/Kickstart/ks-rhes.cfg surely the colon shouldn't be there? Stuart From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 25 17:15:02 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:15:02 -0800 Subject: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY In-Reply-To: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A620A73@irvmbxw01.quest.com> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0A620A73@irvmbxw01.quest.com> Message-ID: <421F5D16.5040600@vitalstream.com> Bill Brunt wrote: > I'm getting the error "V3 DSA signature: NOKEY" when trying to install > the compat-stdlibc++.296.... rpm. I googled this and am a little > bewildered via the responses. > > How would I remedy this error? > I'm trying to install Oracle9iR2 on RH ES4 and I think this is a rpm > required. That message is rpm dutifully telling you that it can't verify the authenticity of the RPM package you're installing because you don't have the GPG keys installed. It's not *technically* an error. The package will install. You should be aware that, since the authenticity of the package can't be verified, you may be installing a package that has a trojan horse virus in it. The only way to verify the package is clean is to check its MD5 checksum or verify that it was signed with the proper GPG key. You should have a fairly complete list of keys in the /usr/share/rhn directory. You import the GPG keys into RPM by: # cd /usr/share/rhn # rpm --import *-KEY Now RPM can ensure that, at least, the package was built by people who are reliable and that it came from a secure source. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... - - ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 25 17:17:36 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:17:36 -0800 Subject: kickstart install of redhat enterprise 3 via pxe fails In-Reply-To: <1109351308.16135.31.camel@rhlaptop.absolutelyplastered.com> References: <20050225153518.29302.qmail@web26509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <1109351308.16135.31.camel@rhlaptop.absolutelyplastered.com> Message-ID: <421F5DB0.8070605@vitalstream.com> Stuart Sears wrote: > On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 15:35 +0000, tom van overbeke wrote: > ks=http://172.16.6.40:/Kickstart/ks-rhes.cfg > > surely the colon shouldn't be there? Yes, the URL should be ks=http://172.16.6.40/Kickstart/ks-rhes.cfg If you have that second colon, you're telling it to look at a different port than the default port of 80, but not giving it a port to look at. The protocol will get very confused there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From evdhn at advalvas.be Fri Feb 25 21:22:53 2005 From: evdhn at advalvas.be (evdhn at advalvas.be) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 22:22:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: Grub does not appear In-Reply-To: <421CB592.7000803@vitalstream.com> References: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <1109038668.7155.1.camel@c515816-a> <20050223032349.21309.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <421CB592.7000803@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <15902.213.119.141.125.1109366573.squirrel@213.119.141.125> > I'd highly recommend making emergency boot disks of both operating > systems. You can boot in rescue mode from the installation CD. Is there still a point in creating emergency boot disks? emma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plaats je zoekertjes GRATIS op AdValvas Placez votre petite annonce GRATUITEMENT sur AdValvas http://www.advalvas.be From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Feb 25 21:31:09 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:31:09 -0800 Subject: Grub does not appear In-Reply-To: <15902.213.119.141.125.1109366573.squirrel@213.119.141.125> References: <20050222011956.8488.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <1109038668.7155.1.camel@c515816-a> <20050223032349.21309.qmail@senayan.indosite.com> <421CB592.7000803@vitalstream.com> <15902.213.119.141.125.1109366573.squirrel@213.119.141.125> Message-ID: <421F991D.7050001@vitalstream.com> evdhn at advalvas.be wrote: >>I'd highly recommend making emergency boot disks of both operating >>systems. > > You can boot in rescue mode from the installation CD. Is there still a > point in creating emergency boot disks? You can't create emergency boot *floppies* via mkbootdisk for FC2, FC3 or RHEL4. The 2.6 kernel is too big to fit on a floppy. FC2 and FC3 have a "rescue CD", dunno about RHEL4 (haven't actually seen one yet). 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I went through the install without issue. Once it was completed, I realized I had been shipped a copy of AS v3 standard for AMD64 & EM64T. This is a dual-XEON processor box. Question is while it appears to be running Ok, is this OS really compatible with my server. If I choose to leave it alone, will I have issues moving forward? Thanks \\Greg <\\Greg> ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From harold at hallikainen.com Sat Feb 26 20:21:03 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:21:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Making drive images Message-ID: <3943.192.168.1.1.1109449263.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> In my never ending quest to be able to recover my server within minutes of its failure, I've made a couple drive images using Norton Ghost. One drive holds /home . The other holds everything else. My new backup drives are 80G while the old drives are 40G. It appears Norton wants to change the partition sizes. When I plug these new drives into the server, I get as far as GRUB GRUB on the screen, then everything stops. If I only replace the /home drive (keeping the original drive that holds everything else), RH8 complains that it cannot find /home during bootup. My /home drive is the IDE primary slave, while the "everything else" drive is the primary master. I copy stuff to the secondary slave slot (I'm using Promise Fast Swap 66 drive enclosures). Because the drives may take on being master or slave, I've got the new 80G backup drives set as "cable select" instead of master or slave. The BIOS seems to properly identify the drives based on where they're plugged in. So... what do I do to get a bootable system on the new drives? I suspect the problem is the difference in size. I tried to tell Norton Ghost to set the partition sizes the same, but there was one point where I keyed in a size of 101 to match the old size, and it changed to 109 as I moved away from that field. I suspect that MAY be due to a different number of heads? Anyway, can this be done? I'd like to now and then just make an image of each drive in the system. Should a drive die, I just plug in the backup. If it CAN be done, how do I accomplish it (perhaps not using Norton Ghost). THANKS! Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From bhamal at wlink.com.np Sat Feb 26 15:30:50 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:15:50 +0545 Subject: System stops because /var/log not found after moving to new partition Message-ID: <001c01c51c19$08ee6b10$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Hi ! I have a Red Hat 8.0 on a intel 2.4 machine with 512 MB . I have kernel 2.4.20-30.8-legacy & 2.4.20-30.8-legacy bigmem. I used to have all my directories /var , /tmp , /usr , /home under one partition / . Thanks to everybody , now I was able to re-partition my drive into extended drives (drives < 4) and move my /var , /tmp into hda5 & ,my /usr , /home into /hda6 . Bu I am facing one problem. When I boot my system logger does not see the /var/log which has been moved to the new location . The system just hangs . When I boot in single mode by passing an argument to my kernel that does show in the dmesg in the new location . In addtion when I run a command like 'clear ' it shows that it could not find the library to run it . I have mounted hda5 & hda6 in my fstab . I did create soft link for my new var , new tmp & new usr to the the /var , /tmp , /usr as ffs :- ln -s /mnt/hda5/var /var ln -s /mnt/hda5/tmp /tmp ln -s /mnt/hda6/usr /usr I moved the old files using the ff commands:- cd source directory cp -ax * /mnt/usr5/var or cd /src/dir ; tar cf - . | (cd /dest/dir && tar xvf - ) But still it does not work . Please find attached the dmesg & library error and fstab. Please advice. Thank you for your help in advance. bj -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: dmesg.txt URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: fstab.txt URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: liberror.txt URL: From abrahjm at auburn.edu Sun Feb 27 18:25:30 2005 From: abrahjm at auburn.edu (Joseph Abrahams) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:25:30 -0600 Subject: New Kernel Hangs-up Booting Message-ID: I recently installed redhat 9.0. After letting the automatic updater install kernel 2.4.20-31.9 on top of the existing 2.4.20-8, I've experienced problems booting. Grub now has four entries (two for 2.4.20-8 and two for 2.4.20-31.9). The old kernel still boots fine, but if I boot from 2.4.20-31.9 it gets to "hde: attached ide-disk drive" and won't go any farther. My coputer is a pentium4 originally with windows XP on a SATA drive. I installed redhat on an new ultra ata/100 drive. I noticed during installation that the installed couldn't see my SATA drive, but everything worked fine until inatalling the new kernel. Thanks for help, Joseph From dlpeterson at cableone.net Sun Feb 27 18:41:16 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:41:16 -0700 Subject: New Kernel Hangs-up Booting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There are known issues with SATA drives and different kernel versions. Look in your /etc/fstab file and look for an entry for the mount point of your hard drive. Some kernel versions recognize SATA disks as /dev/hd?, and others /dev/sd?. If the newer kernel version is looking for a /dev/sd? device, and your /etc/fstab file is mounting a /dev/hd? device this will cause problems. Keep in mind that if you make modifications to the /etc/fstab file, your system may become unbootable in any of the kernel versions, or may boot in read only file system mode. The best thing I can recommend is searching existing issues with SATA devices for the kernel version you would like to use. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Joseph Abrahams Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:26 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: New Kernel Hangs-up Booting I recently installed redhat 9.0. After letting the automatic updater install kernel 2.4.20-31.9 on top of the existing 2.4.20-8, I've experienced problems booting. Grub now has four entries (two for 2.4.20-8 and two for 2.4.20-31.9). The old kernel still boots fine, but if I boot from 2.4.20-31.9 it gets to "hde: attached ide-disk drive" and won't go any farther. My coputer is a pentium4 originally with windows XP on a SATA drive. I installed redhat on an new ultra ata/100 drive. I noticed during installation that the installed couldn't see my SATA drive, but everything worked fine until inatalling the new kernel. Thanks for help, Joseph _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From markknecht at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 18:40:41 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:40:41 -0800 Subject: New Kernel Hangs-up Booting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05022710401522f53f@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:25:30 -0600, Joseph Abrahams wrote: > I recently installed redhat 9.0. After letting the automatic updater > install kernel 2.4.20-31.9 on top of the existing 2.4.20-8, I've > experienced problems booting. Grub now has four entries (two for > 2.4.20-8 and two for 2.4.20-31.9). The old kernel still boots fine, but > if I boot from 2.4.20-31.9 it gets to "hde: attached ide-disk drive" and > won't go any farther. > > My coputer is a pentium4 originally with windows XP on a SATA drive. I > installed redhat on an new ultra ata/100 drive. I noticed during > installation that the installed couldn't see my SATA drive, but > everything worked fine until inatalling the new kernel. > > Thanks for help, > Joseph Joseph, This is most likely a case where the drive is changing names depending on what's being booted. I've had this problem on a couple of machines. First, RH9 is most probably not going to know a thing about SATA drives. This is good since you'r enot apparently using it for this installation, but even once you get RH9 up and running you will likely not be able to mount the SATA drive even for data transfer. The key to figuring this out is to VERY carefull watch the boot process. Very early in the process the part of the boot loader that understands your system hardware will put up some messages about the drives it is seeing. I expect that your EIDE drive is probably /dev/hda with this kernel. Watch the process, soo if you can spot that, and if you do then adjust your /etc/fstab file to point at /dev/hda (or whatever you see) instead of /dev/hde. This problem can also be caused by a boot time option built into the kernel that tells the system to boot offboard EIDE chipsets before the system's chipset. Normal: EIDE channel 1 - chipset - /dev/hda & /dev/hdb EIDE channel 2 - chipset - /dev/hdc & /dev/hdd PCI EIDE Adapter - /dev/hde and higher Offboard first PCI Adapter - /dev/hda EIDE channel 1 - /dev/hde & /dev/hdf EIDE channel 2 - /dev/hdg & /dev/hdh I've had systems where this turns around on my when I get a new kernel, even using all EIDE. Hope this helps. Good luck and write back if you need more info. Cheers, Mark From abrahjm at auburn.edu Sun Feb 27 19:23:01 2005 From: abrahjm at auburn.edu (Joseph Abrahams) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:23:01 -0600 Subject: New Kernel Hangs-up Booting Message-ID: The boot sequence shows /dev/hda, I looked at my fstab file but was unsure what to change. A copy of it follows: LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 Also, are there entries that I can include in here to be able to mount usb keys & iso images? Thanks, Joseph >>> Mark Knecht 02/27/05 12:40 PM >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:25:30 -0600, Joseph Abrahams wrote: > I recently installed redhat 9.0. After letting the automatic updater > install kernel 2.4.20-31.9 on top of the existing 2.4.20-8, I've > experienced problems booting. Grub now has four entries (two for > 2.4.20-8 and two for 2.4.20-31.9). The old kernel still boots fine, but > if I boot from 2.4.20-31.9 it gets to "hde: attached ide-disk drive" and > won't go any farther. > > My coputer is a pentium4 originally with windows XP on a SATA drive. I > installed redhat on an new ultra ata/100 drive. I noticed during > installation that the installed couldn't see my SATA drive, but > everything worked fine until inatalling the new kernel. > > Thanks for help, > Joseph Joseph, This is most likely a case where the drive is changing names depending on what's being booted. I've had this problem on a couple of machines. First, RH9 is most probably not going to know a thing about SATA drives. This is good since you'r enot apparently using it for this installation, but even once you get RH9 up and running you will likely not be able to mount the SATA drive even for data transfer. The key to figuring this out is to VERY carefull watch the boot process. Very early in the process the part of the boot loader that understands your system hardware will put up some messages about the drives it is seeing. I expect that your EIDE drive is probably /dev/hda with this kernel. Watch the process, soo if you can spot that, and if you do then adjust your /etc/fstab file to point at /dev/hda (or whatever you see) instead of /dev/hde. This problem can also be caused by a boot time option built into the kernel that tells the system to boot offboard EIDE chipsets before the system's chipset. Normal: EIDE channel 1 - chipset - /dev/hda & /dev/hdb EIDE channel 2 - chipset - /dev/hdc & /dev/hdd PCI EIDE Adapter - /dev/hde and higher Offboard first PCI Adapter - /dev/hda EIDE channel 1 - /dev/hde & /dev/hdf EIDE channel 2 - /dev/hdg & /dev/hdh I've had systems where this turns around on my when I get a new kernel, even using all EIDE. Hope this helps. Good luck and write back if you need more info. Cheers, Mark _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From peter at mycorp.co.uk Sun Feb 27 18:35:22 2005 From: peter at mycorp.co.uk (peter at mycorp.co.uk) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:35:22 +0000 Subject: Old RH books for new RH system user Message-ID: <200502271835.22947.peter@mycorp.co.uk> Hi all, I am just looking for a good book about Linux, second hand something from ebay.co.uk. I want something about using command line I mean linux administration from the shell only. I am good in windows but it's only cuz I knew DOS from the beggining. Now I want to learn same about Linux, how to comfigure files, what file is for what etc. My question is : Is book for ie Redhat 6 or 8 a good startpoint even if I am using RedHat enterprise on my computer, Redhat 9 on my VPS and ClarkConnect on my home server. Cheers From abrahjm at auburn.edu Sun Feb 27 20:03:09 2005 From: abrahjm at auburn.edu (Joseph Abrahams) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:03:09 -0600 Subject: New Kernel Hangs-up Booting Message-ID: Okay, here's my grub.conf file. Each entry looks the same (no hde anywhere), but only "Red Hat Linux-up (2.4.20-8)" is bootable. I don't see where hde is coming from during the boot process. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda1 default=1 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-31.9) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-31.9 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.20-31.9.img title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-31.9smp) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-31.9smp ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.20-31.9smp.img title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-8smp) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-8smp ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8smp.img title Red Hat Linux-up (2.4.20-8) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.20-8.img Thanks again, Joseph >>> Mark Knecht 02/27/05 12:40 PM >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:25:30 -0600, Joseph Abrahams wrote: > I recently installed redhat 9.0. After letting the automatic updater > install kernel 2.4.20-31.9 on top of the existing 2.4.20-8, I've > experienced problems booting. Grub now has four entries (two for > 2.4.20-8 and two for 2.4.20-31.9). The old kernel still boots fine, but > if I boot from 2.4.20-31.9 it gets to "hde: attached ide-disk drive" and > won't go any farther. > > My coputer is a pentium4 originally with windows XP on a SATA drive. I > installed redhat on an new ultra ata/100 drive. I noticed during > installation that the installed couldn't see my SATA drive, but > everything worked fine until inatalling the new kernel. > > Thanks for help, > Joseph Joseph, This is most likely a case where the drive is changing names depending on what's being booted. I've had this problem on a couple of machines. First, RH9 is most probably not going to know a thing about SATA drives. This is good since you'r enot apparently using it for this installation, but even once you get RH9 up and running you will likely not be able to mount the SATA drive even for data transfer. The key to figuring this out is to VERY carefull watch the boot process. Very early in the process the part of the boot loader that understands your system hardware will put up some messages about the drives it is seeing. I expect that your EIDE drive is probably /dev/hda with this kernel. Watch the process, soo if you can spot that, and if you do then adjust your /etc/fstab file to point at /dev/hda (or whatever you see) instead of /dev/hde. This problem can also be caused by a boot time option built into the kernel that tells the system to boot offboard EIDE chipsets before the system's chipset. Normal: EIDE channel 1 - chipset - /dev/hda & /dev/hdb EIDE channel 2 - chipset - /dev/hdc & /dev/hdd PCI EIDE Adapter - /dev/hde and higher Offboard first PCI Adapter - /dev/hda EIDE channel 1 - /dev/hde & /dev/hdf EIDE channel 2 - /dev/hdg & /dev/hdh I've had systems where this turns around on my when I get a new kernel, even using all EIDE. Hope this helps. Good luck and write back if you need more info. Cheers, Mark _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From markknecht at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 20:31:08 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:31:08 -0800 Subject: New Kernel Hangs-up Booting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05022712314a48f164@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:03:09 -0600, Joseph Abrahams wrote: > Okay, here's my grub.conf file. Each entry looks the same (no hde > anywhere), but only "Red Hat Linux-up (2.4.20-8)" is bootable. I don't > see where hde is coming from during the boot process. I don't either, but probably it's finding your SATA controller and then getting confused somehow about the SATA drive. Not sure. > > # root (hd0,0) > # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3 > # initrd /initrd-version.img > #boot=/dev/hda1 > default=1 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Red Hat Linux (2.4.20-31.9) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-31.9 ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi The issue is the above line, I think. If I understand correctly you are telling the system to boot from a disk with a label '/' which I guess the system isn't finding. Additionally you are telling it that you want to treat hdc as an ide-scsi device but I think that's probably for a CDROM or something like that. I would suggest trying the following: title Test root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.20-31.9 ro root=/dev/hda1 hdc=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.20-31.9.img That may work. Or you may need /dev/hde1. Sorry that I'm not 100% sure. I've dealt with this a number of times. I'm pretty sure we're working in the right area but it will jsut take a few trys to figure it out. You may not know this but you can execute grub commands in a console. (And it may not help you in exactly this situation, but it's interesting to try..) Shell out to a console (Alt-Ctrl-F1) and log in as root. Then type grub and wait for it to load. At that point you can type root (hd and hit tab. It will tel you about the drives it finds. Let's say you want to look at drive 0, so you go on typing root (hd0, and hit tab again. It will tell you about the partitions it sees. Pretty much all of the commands in grub work this way. This could be helpful. Choose your test setup but then edit the command lines before booting it. This can help you find the drive and partition you are looking for. Hope this helps, Mark Good luck, Mark From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 28 03:26:49 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:26:49 -0600 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module Message-ID: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> What the heck has happened to the ide-tape module in the 2.6 kernels? The last FC2 kernel as distributed by KRUD, http://www.tummy.com/krud/ that supported my IDE tape drives was 2.6.8-1.521. Kernel 2.6.9-1.6_FC2 does not. And now that I've upgraded to FC3, with kernel 2.6.10-1.766_FC3, I'm stuck with a dead tape drive. The one in my file server is still ok because I haven't and won't upgrade that until I have my backup needs covered. Now that they are no longer distributing the kernel-source RPM, I guess I'm supposed to download the latest from kernel.org and build a custom kernel. Phooey, I thought I was free of that many years ago when they modularized the kernel. Is there some alternate device I'm supposed to use? Or do I bite the bullet and build a kernel? Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? It would be a British understatement to say that I'm miffed. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From redhat at stuffandting.com Mon Feb 28 10:33:12 2005 From: redhat at stuffandting.com (Simon Hargrave) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:33:12 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Kickstart install on AS4? Message-ID: <43376.213.38.213.226.1109586792.squirrel@beavis.home> Hi I'm having problems running a Kickstart installation on AS4 (on a HP DL360 server). The symptoms are: - 1) If I boot from CD and specify a Kickstart file on an NFS share as in: - linux ks=nfs:server:/share/kickstart.file It attempts to get a DHCP address (and fails as there isn't a server). So it prompts for network details, which I provide, and it fails with the following: - tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex. tg3: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX. loader: failed to set default route: Network is unreachable The server at this point is not pingable from anywhere (local segment or otherwise). The tg3 messages suggest the NIC is up, however it's odd that it can't ping, and the default route message is bizaare! 2) If I boot again from CD but don't specify a Kickstart file, again it tries DHCP, then asks for details. However this time it establishes the LAN correctly. I can ping it from either the local segment or any other subnet. This is with providing exactly the same details as before. 3) The Kickstart boot works fine with an AS3 CD, which we have been doing for some time. What is the difference in the way the NIC is booted up in scenario 1) as opposed to scenario 2) that would cause it to fail? Thanks, Sy From harold at hallikainen.com Mon Feb 28 16:56:04 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:56:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Resend: Making drive images Message-ID: <52222.207.177.227.29.1109609764.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Sorry for the resend, but I'm not sure the first try made it through the listserv. HH In my never ending quest to be able to recover my server within minutes of its failure, I've made a couple drive images using Norton Ghost. One drive holds /home . The other holds everything else. My new backup drives are 80G while the old drives are 40G. It appears Norton wants to change the partition sizes. When I plug these new drives into the server, I get as far as GRUB GRUB on the screen, then everything stops. If I only replace the /home drive (keeping the original drive that holds everything else), RH8 complains that it cannot find /home during bootup. My /home drive is the IDE primary slave, while the "everything else" drive is the primary master. I copy stuff to the secondary slave slot (I'm using Promise Fast Swap 66 drive enclosures). Because the drives may take on being master or slave, I've got the new 80G backup drives set as "cable select" instead of master or slave. The BIOS seems to properly identify the drives based on where they're plugged in. So... what do I do to get a bootable system on the new drives? I suspect the problem is the difference in size. I tried to tell Norton Ghost to set the partition sizes the same, but there was one point where I keyed in a size of 101 to match the old size, and it changed to 109 as I moved away from that field. I suspect that MAY be due to a different number of heads? Anyway, can this be done? I'd like to now and then just make an image of each drive in the system. Should a drive die, I just plug in the backup. If it CAN be done, how do I accomplish it (perhaps not using Norton Ghost). THANKS! Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From stephen.corcoran at anam.com Mon Feb 28 17:45:41 2005 From: stephen.corcoran at anam.com (Stephen Corcoran) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:45:41 -0000 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: Hi guys I am trying to use the kickstart utility to install ES 3. I am having problems from the start and not really able to diagnose what is happening. I created a boot diskette containing the boot.img file and I also copied the ks.cfg file to the same directory on the floppy. No matter what I do the same thing seems to happen. I get prompted for my install media and then goes into an interactive install. I edited the syslinux.cfg file to contain the following lines default ks prompt 10 label ks kernel vmlinuz append ks=floppy initrd=initrd.img No matter what command I use at the boot: prompt the same thing will happen. Can anyone tell me why it seems to ignore the ks=floppy append I run on the command line ? Much appreciated Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 18:07:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:07:29 -0800 Subject: Making drive images In-Reply-To: <3943.192.168.1.1.1109449263.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <3943.192.168.1.1.1109449263.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <42235DE1.1000300@vitalstream.com> Harold Hallikainen wrote: > In my never ending quest to be able to recover my server within minutes of > its failure, I've made a couple drive images using Norton Ghost. One drive > holds /home . The other holds everything else. My new backup drives are > 80G while the old drives are 40G. It appears Norton wants to change the > partition sizes. When I plug these new drives into the server, I get as > far as GRUB GRUB on the screen, then everything stops. If I only replace > the /home drive (keeping the original drive that holds everything else), > RH8 complains that it cannot find /home during bootup. Is this after ghost resizes the partitions or do you force it to keep the same partition size? Also, which filesystem are you using? > My /home drive is the IDE primary slave, while the "everything else" drive > is the primary master. I copy stuff to the secondary slave slot (I'm using > Promise Fast Swap 66 drive enclosures). Because the drives may take on > being master or slave, I've got the new 80G backup drives set as "cable > select" instead of master or slave. The BIOS seems to properly identify > the drives based on where they're plugged in. Cable select is highly dangerous. While you've had luck so far, I wouldn't continue to use it. > So... what do I do to get a bootable system on the new drives? I suspect > the problem is the difference in size. I tried to tell Norton Ghost to set > the partition sizes the same, but there was one point where I keyed in a > size of 101 to match the old size, and it changed to 109 as I moved away > from that field. I suspect that MAY be due to a different number of heads? Uhm, hmmm. Well, that's entirely possible. Do you have the BIOS set up to use LBA mode? I ask because many BIOS' will work with 40GB drives in CHS mode, but have issues with 80GB drives unless they're in LBA mode (which is a better mode to use anyway, IMHO--but I'm an old SCSI guy). If you're not in LBA mode, be warned: Sometimes you can switch, but not always. If I were you, I'd hook up your new 80GB drives on the secondary controller, then reboot and get into your BIOS. See if you can set JUST the secondary controler to LBA mode, then do the ghost (do the "everything else" drive first). Then, shut down, swap out the "everthing else" drive, set the BIOS to LBA mode for that drive and try a reboot. I'm not guaranteeing this will work, but it's worth a shot. > Anyway, can this be done? I'd like to now and then just make an image of > each drive in the system. Should a drive die, I just plug in the backup. > If it CAN be done, how do I accomplish it (perhaps not using Norton > Ghost). Well, we've used ghost to do it on dissimilar drives (and even slightly different hardware), but the systems were SCSI-based (essentially LBA mode). The only problems we ran into was that the original mobos were aic7xxx based and the new mobos were aic79xx based necessitating a rescue boot, editing of the /etc/[modules|modprobe].conf file for the right SCSI controller, rebuild of the initrd images and a reboot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 18:26:16 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:26:16 -0800 Subject: System stops because /var/log not found after moving to new partition In-Reply-To: <001c01c51c19$08ee6b10$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> References: <001c01c51c19$08ee6b10$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Message-ID: <42236248.7080303@vitalstream.com> bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I have a Red Hat 8.0 on a intel 2.4 machine with 512 MB . > > I have kernel 2.4.20-30.8-legacy & 2.4.20-30.8-legacy bigmem. > > I used to have all my directories /var , /tmp , /usr , /home under one > partition / . > > Thanks to everybody , now I was able to re-partition my drive into extended > drives (drives < 4) and move my /var , /tmp into hda5 & ,my /usr , /home > into /hda6 . > > > Bu I am facing one problem. You're facing a heck of a lot more than one problem. Did you check the log you included? You're getting a bunch of seek and CRC errors on the drive. That's bad. Don't do anything else until you get that sorted out. It may be that you forced a partition beyond the end of the drive. > > When I boot my system logger does not see the /var/log which has been moved > to the new location . > > The system just hangs . > > When I boot in single mode by passing an argument to my kernel that does > show in the dmesg in the new location . > > In addtion when I run a command like 'clear ' it shows that it could not > find the library to run it . > > > I have mounted hda5 & hda6 in my fstab . > > I did create soft link for my new var , new tmp & new usr to the the /var , > /tmp , /usr as ffs :- > > ln -s /mnt/hda5/var /var > ln -s /mnt/hda5/tmp /tmp > > ln -s /mnt/hda6/usr /usr Egads! No, that's not a good idea. I'd change things as follows (all in single user or rescue mode): chroot /mnt/sysimage (Only if you booted in rescue mode) mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5 (Mount the new partition) cp -a /var/* /mnt/hda5 (Copy the /var/files to it) umount /mnt/hda5 (Unmount the hda5 partition) mv /var /var.old (Rename your old /var directory) mkdir /var (Create a new /var directory) mount /dev/hda5 /var (Mount /dev/hda5 as /var) rm -rf /tmp (Delete your current /tmp directory) ln -s /var/tmp /tmp (Symlink /tmp to /var/tmp) exit (Only if you booted in rescue mode) exit (Reboot) This mounts the partition where /var should be and allows its "tmp" directory to do double duty (as both /var/tmp and /tmp). Don't do ANYTHING until you sort out the seek and CRC errors. Something looks very bad there. > I moved the old files using the ff commands:- > > cd source directory > > cp -ax * /mnt/usr5/var > > or > > cd /src/dir ; tar cf - . | (cd /dest/dir && tar xvf - ) > > > > > But still it does not work . > > Please find attached the dmesg & library error and fstab. > > Please advice. > > Thank you for your help in advance. > > bj > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Linux version 2.4.20-30.8.legacy (legacy at yoda.loki.me) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Fri Feb 20 17:47:48 PST 2004 > BIOS-provided physical RAM map: > BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) > BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) > BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fff0000 (usable) > BIOS-e820: 000000001fff0000 - 000000001fff3000 (ACPI NVS) > BIOS-e820: 000000001fff3000 - 0000000020000000 (ACPI data) > BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) > 0MB HIGHMEM available. > 511MB LOWMEM available. > On node 0 totalpages: 131056 > zone(0): 4096 pages. > zone(1): 126960 pages. > zone(2): 0 pages. > Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ hdb=ide-scsi > ide_setup: hdb=ide-scsi > Initializing CPU#0 > Detected 2393.991 MHz processor. > Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 > Calibrating delay loop... 4771.02 BogoMIPS > Memory: 511512k/524224k available (1340k kernel code, 10148k reserved, 999k data, 128k init, 0k highmem) > Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) > Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) > Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) > Buffer-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) > Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) > CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K > CPU: L2 cache: 512K > Intel machine check architecture supported. > Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. > CPU: After generic, caps: bfebfbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 > CPU: Common caps: bfebfbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz stepping 07 > Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. > Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. > Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. > POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX > mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch at atnf.csiro.au) > mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel > PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb270, last bus=1 > PCI: Using configuration type 1 > PCI: Probing PCI hardware > PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/3177] at 00:11.0 > isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... > isapnp: No Plug & Play device found > Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 > Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 > Initializing RT netlink socket > apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16) > Starting kswapd > VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1 > pty: 2048 Unix98 ptys configured > Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled > ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A > ttyS1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A > Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M > FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 > NET4: Frame Diverter 0.46 > RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize > Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta3-.2.4 > ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx > VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:11.1 > VP_IDE: chipset revision 6 > VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later > VP_IDE: VIA vt8235 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci00:11.1 > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xdc00-0xdc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA > ide1: BM-DMA at 0xdc08-0xdc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA > hda: ST360020A, ATA DISK drive > hdb: SONY CD-RW CRX1611, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive > blk: queue c03a6260, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) > hdd: ST380011A, ATA DISK drive > blk: queue c03a6808, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) > ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 > ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 > hda: attached ide-disk driver. > hda: host protected area => 1 > hda: 117231408 sectors (60022 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=7297/255/63, UDMA(100) > hdd: attached ide-disk driver. > hdd: host protected area => 1 > hdd: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63, UDMA(100) > ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide > Partition check: > hda:hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > blk: queue c03a6260, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) > hdb: DMA disabled > ide0: reset: success > hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 > > hdd: hdd1 hdd2 < hdd5 > > ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide > md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 > md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. > md: autorun ... > md: ... autorun DONE. > NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 > IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP > IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 32Kbytes > TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 65536) > Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM > NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. > RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 > Freeing initrd memory: 126k freed > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). > Journalled Block Device driver loaded > kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds > EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. > Freeing unused kernel memory: 128k freed > usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs > usb.c: registered new driver hub > PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:10.3 > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:0c.0 > ehci-hcd 00:10.3: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 > ehci-hcd 00:10.3: irq 11, pci mem e0849000 > usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 > PCI: 00:10.3 PCI cache line size set incorrectly (32 bytes) by BIOS/FW. > PCI: 00:10.3 PCI cache line size corrected to 128. > ehci-hcd 00:10.3: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2003-Jan-22 > hub.c: USB hub found > hub.c: 6 ports detected > usb.c: registered new driver hiddev > usb.c: registered new driver hid > hid-core.c: v1.8.1 Andreas Gal, Vojtech Pavlik > hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > hub.c: new USB device 00:10.3-1, assigned address 2 > usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x8ec/0x12) is not claimed by any active driver. > EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,2), internal journal > Adding Swap: 1052248k swap-space (priority -1) > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC } > ide0: reset: success > SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 > Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... > usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage > scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices > Vendor: Kingston Model: DataTraveler2.0 Rev: 4.80 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured > USB Mass Storage device found at 2 > USB Mass Storage support registered. > hdb: attached ide-scsi driver. > scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices > Vendor: SONY Model: CD-RW CRX1611 Rev: TYS3 > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 > none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > none /proc proc defaults 0 0 > /dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5 ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hda6 /mnt/hda6 ext3 defaults 1 3 > none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 > /dev/hda3 swap swap defaults 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > /mnt/hda6/usr/bin/clear: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "I was remembering the immortal words of Socrates when he said, - - 'I drank what?'" -- Val Kilmer in "Real Genius" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 18:32:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:32:37 -0800 Subject: Old RH books for new RH system user In-Reply-To: <200502271835.22947.peter@mycorp.co.uk> References: <200502271835.22947.peter@mycorp.co.uk> Message-ID: <422363C5.4050604@vitalstream.com> peter at mycorp.co.uk wrote: > Hi all, > I am just looking for a good book about Linux, second hand something from > ebay.co.uk. > I want something about using command line I mean linux administration from the > shell only. I am good in windows but it's only cuz I knew DOS from the > beggining. Now I want to learn same about Linux, how to comfigure files, what > file is for what etc. > My question is : > Is book for ie Redhat 6 or 8 a good startpoint even if I am using RedHat > enterprise on my computer, Redhat 9 on my VPS and ClarkConnect on my home > server. The command set for any Linux is similar. Later releases have more commands and/or the options for the commands grow or change, but once you've got it, you've got it. O'Reilly and Associates has a number of really, really good books. I recommend "Essential System Administration" and it's companion "Pocket Reference". Also, "Linux in a Nutshell" is excellent. Visit their Linux/Unix product page: http://www.ora.com You can also look at RedHat's user guides on-line: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Dyslexics of the world: UNTIE! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From harold at hallikainen.com Mon Feb 28 18:44:02 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:44:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Making drive images In-Reply-To: <42235DE1.1000300@vitalstream.com> References: <3943.192.168.1.1.1109449263.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <42235DE1.1000300@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <53961.207.177.227.29.1109616242.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> THANKS! Lotsa stuff to try. Norton Ghost will not let me keep the same partititon sizes. I change it to match the old drive, then move away from that field and it changes it back. I'm running RH8, which I THINK is ext3. Once I get the alternate set of drives running, I'll do an update to the OS since if (when) it messes up, I'll be able to quickly go back. I'll give your ideas a try this week. THANKS! Harold > Harold Hallikainen wrote: >> In my never ending quest to be able to recover my server within minutes >> of >> its failure, I've made a couple drive images using Norton Ghost. One >> drive >> holds /home . The other holds everything else. My new backup drives are >> 80G while the old drives are 40G. It appears Norton wants to change the >> partition sizes. When I plug these new drives into the server, I get as >> far as GRUB GRUB on the screen, then everything stops. If I only replace >> the /home drive (keeping the original drive that holds everything else), >> RH8 complains that it cannot find /home during bootup. > > Is this after ghost resizes the partitions or do you force it to keep > the same partition size? Also, which filesystem are you using? > >> My /home drive is the IDE primary slave, while the "everything else" >> drive >> is the primary master. I copy stuff to the secondary slave slot (I'm >> using >> Promise Fast Swap 66 drive enclosures). Because the drives may take on >> being master or slave, I've got the new 80G backup drives set as "cable >> select" instead of master or slave. The BIOS seems to properly identify >> the drives based on where they're plugged in. > > Cable select is highly dangerous. While you've had luck so far, I > wouldn't continue to use it. > >> So... what do I do to get a bootable system on the new drives? I suspect >> the problem is the difference in size. I tried to tell Norton Ghost to >> set >> the partition sizes the same, but there was one point where I keyed in a >> size of 101 to match the old size, and it changed to 109 as I moved away >> from that field. I suspect that MAY be due to a different number of >> heads? > > Uhm, hmmm. Well, that's entirely possible. Do you have the BIOS set up > to use LBA mode? I ask because many BIOS' will work with 40GB drives in > CHS mode, but have issues with 80GB drives unless they're in LBA mode > (which is a better mode to use anyway, IMHO--but I'm an old SCSI guy). > > If you're not in LBA mode, be warned: Sometimes you can switch, but not > always. If I were you, I'd hook up your new 80GB drives on the > secondary controller, then reboot and get into your BIOS. See if you > can set JUST the secondary controler to LBA mode, then do the ghost (do > the "everything else" drive first). Then, shut down, swap out the > "everthing else" drive, set the BIOS to LBA mode for that drive and try > a reboot. I'm not guaranteeing this will work, but it's worth a shot. > >> Anyway, can this be done? I'd like to now and then just make an image of >> each drive in the system. Should a drive die, I just plug in the backup. >> If it CAN be done, how do I accomplish it (perhaps not using Norton >> Ghost). > > Well, we've used ghost to do it on dissimilar drives (and even slightly > different hardware), but the systems were SCSI-based (essentially LBA > mode). The only problems we ran into was that the original mobos were > aic7xxx based and the new mobos were aic79xx based necessitating a > rescue boot, editing of the /etc/[modules|modprobe].conf file for the > right SCSI controller, rebuild of the initrd images and a reboot. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From bho at gmx.net Mon Feb 28 18:50:15 2005 From: bho at gmx.net (Benjamin Hornberger) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:50:15 -0500 Subject: Old RH books for new RH system user In-Reply-To: <422363C5.4050604@vitalstream.com> References: <200502271835.22947.peter@mycorp.co.uk> <422363C5.4050604@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050228134057.0674ee70@pop.gmx.net> At 10:32 AM 2/28/2005 -0800, you wrote: >peter at mycorp.co.uk wrote: >>Hi all, >>I am just looking for a good book about Linux, second hand something from >>ebay.co.uk. >>I want something about using command line I mean linux administration >>from the shell only. I am good in windows but it's only cuz I knew DOS >>from the beggining. Now I want to learn same about Linux, how to >>comfigure files, what file is for what etc. >>My question is : >>Is book for ie Redhat 6 or 8 a good startpoint even if I am using RedHat >>enterprise on my computer, Redhat 9 on my VPS and ClarkConnect on my home >>server. I can recommend the "Linux Cookbook" by Michael Stutz, but it's mainly from a user's point of view (not much system administration). The 2nd edition is out, but I don't see many new features covered there. Maybe you can find a cheap copy of the 1st edition. I you happened to speak German, the book by Michael Kofler (www.kofler.cc) is by far the best Linux book for beginners and intermediate users, in my opinion. It covers more than enough system administration for the home and hobby administrator. There is an English translation of the 4th German edition (2nd English edition), but it's quite old now. I don't understand why they don't translate the newer editions. Benjamin From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 19:13:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:13:31 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > What the heck has happened to the ide-tape module in the 2.6 kernels? > The last FC2 kernel as distributed by KRUD, > > http://www.tummy.com/krud/ > > that supported my IDE tape drives was 2.6.8-1.521. Kernel > 2.6.9-1.6_FC2 does not. And now that I've upgraded to FC3, with > kernel 2.6.10-1.766_FC3, I'm stuck with a dead tape drive. The one in > my file server is still ok because I haven't and won't upgrade that > until I have my backup needs covered. > > Now that they are no longer distributing the kernel-source RPM, I > guess I'm supposed to download the latest from kernel.org and build a > custom kernel. Phooey, I thought I was free of that many years ago > when they modularized the kernel. The kernel source is available, but not as "kernel-source-version.rpm". You must download the "kernel-version-src.rpm" (a true source RPM), then do the "rpmbuild -bp" on it. The reasons for not including a kernel source RPM are documented in the release notes and I won't go into them here. Here's how to create the same "/usr/src/linux" stuff as you're used to: 1. Download the "kernel-2.6.10-1.766_FC3.src.rpm" 2. Install it: rpm -ivh kernel-2.6.10-1.766_FC3.src.rpm 3. Go to the SPECS dir and do the preliminary build cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS rpmbuild -bp --target=i686 kernel-2.6.spec 4. Copy the resultant source to /usr/src: cd ../BUILD/kernel-2.6.10 mv linux-2.6.10 /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-1.766_FC3 5. Set up your symlinks: cd /usr/src rm -f linux linux-2.6 ln -s linux-2.6.10-1.766_FC3 linux-2.6 ln -s linux-2.6.10-1.766_FC3 linux 6. Edit the Makefile's "EXTRAVERSION=" to match your kernel: cd /usr/src/linux vi Makefile The configuration files for the standard FC3 releases are in /usr/src/linux/configs or you can use the one from your /boot directory. Copy it to "/usr/src/linux/.config" and fire up "make xconfig" or whatever you used. The idee-tape device is in Device Drivers->ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support->Include IDE/ATAPI TAPE Remember that you need to enable it, then "make bzImage;make modules" to build it, but you do NOT need to install the new kernel. Just grab the module and copy it to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ide/legacy/ide-tape.ko > Is there some alternate device I'm supposed to use? Nope. > Or do I bite the bullet and build a kernel? Build the kernel source as I outlined above. ide-tape is not part of the standard kernel build as there are, pardon my language, damned few people who used it. > Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? ide-tape is ancient and not particularly reliable. DVDs are one option. So are things such as DAT or DLT (if you like tape). At the current cost of disk drives, an IEEE 1394 (firewire) or USB 2.0 enclosure and a 80GB drive make for a pretty cheap and reliable backup. If you do it right, you can even boot off it for emergency recovery. > It would be a British understatement to say that I'm miffed. Again, VERY few people used ide-tape. It's been termed "legacy" so it's not a standard module any longer. Installing the kernel source does require a couple of extra steps and the reason for it is in the release notes (you did read them, didn't you?). Building the module isn't hard. Sorry, but you're one of the "edge cases" as far as device support is concerned. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - ...Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror - - and you'd be on your own, pal! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From vikramkalsi at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 19:22:41 2005 From: vikramkalsi at gmail.com (Vikram Kalsi) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:22:41 -0500 Subject: Upgrade RHEL AS3 to AS4 Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Does anyone know of all the ways in which we can upgrade from RHEL AS3 to AS4? Thanks in anticipation, -Vikram Kalsi From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 19:38:25 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:38:25 -0800 Subject: Kickstart install on AS4? In-Reply-To: <43376.213.38.213.226.1109586792.squirrel@beavis.home> References: <43376.213.38.213.226.1109586792.squirrel@beavis.home> Message-ID: <42237331.3030903@vitalstream.com> Simon Hargrave wrote: > Hi > > I'm having problems running a Kickstart installation on AS4 (on a HP DL360 > server). The symptoms are: - > > 1) If I boot from CD and specify a Kickstart file on an NFS share as in: - > > linux ks=nfs:server:/share/kickstart.file > > It attempts to get a DHCP address (and fails as there isn't a server). So > it prompts for network details, which I provide, and it fails with the > following: - > > tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex. > tg3: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX. > loader: failed to set default route: Network is unreachable > > The server at this point is not pingable from anywhere (local segment or > otherwise). The tg3 messages suggest the NIC is up, however it's odd that > it can't ping, and the default route message is bizaare! Not really. You gave it an IP address and a netmask, but no route so the system has no idea how to get to the NFS server. I've never done an NFS install, but did the system ask for a default route or a gateway? If so, then you should have specified the IP address for your router. Note that the address of the router AND the address you gave the NIC MUST be on the same network segment. > 2) If I boot again from CD but don't specify a Kickstart file, again it > tries DHCP, then asks for details. However this time it establishes the > LAN correctly. I can ping it from either the local segment or any other > subnet. This is with providing exactly the same details as before. What's the command line you used to do that? > 3) The Kickstart boot works fine with an AS3 CD, which we have been doing > for some time. AS3 is a 2.4 kernel. AS4 is a 2.6 kernel. They work differently. > What is the difference in the way the NIC is booted up in scenario 1) as > opposed to scenario 2) that would cause it to fail? It may be a bug in anaconda. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Doctor! My brain hurts!" "It will have to come out!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 28 19:45:49 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:45:49 -0600 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >What the heck has happened to the ide-tape module in the 2.6 kernels? > >The last FC2 kernel as distributed by KRUD, > > > >http://www.tummy.com/krud/ > > > >that supported my IDE tape drives was 2.6.8-1.521. Kernel > >2.6.9-1.6_FC2 does not. And now that I've upgraded to FC3, with > >kernel 2.6.10-1.766_FC3, I'm stuck with a dead tape drive. The one in > >my file server is still ok because I haven't and won't upgrade that > >until I have my backup needs covered. > > > >Now that they are no longer distributing the kernel-source RPM, I > >guess I'm supposed to download the latest from kernel.org and build a > >custom kernel. Phooey, I thought I was free of that many years ago > >when they modularized the kernel. > > The kernel source is available, but not as "kernel-source-version.rpm". > You must download the "kernel-version-src.rpm" (a true source RPM), then > do the "rpmbuild -bp" on it. The reasons for not including a kernel > source RPM are documented in the release notes and I won't go into them > here. > > > > >Is there some alternate device I'm supposed to use? > > Nope. I posted the same query to the krudusers list and just got the reply that said to use the ide-scsi module. I tried it and it works fine. The device is /dev/(n)st0 on my system. > >Or do I bite the bullet and build a kernel? > > Build the kernel source as I outlined above. ide-tape is not part of > the standard kernel build as there are, pardon my language, damned few > people who used it. Gee, and here I thought I was mainstream. :-) The aforementioned respondent said ide-tape had been depreciated (sic) for some time. > >Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? > > ide-tape is ancient and not particularly reliable. DVDs are one option. > So are things such as DAT or DLT (if you like tape). I used to be. Unfortunately, it seemed that I could buy expensive drives that used cheap tapes, or cheap drives that used expensive tapes. Since the price has come way down on DVD (re)writers and media, I think I know where I'm headed. > At the current > cost of disk drives, an IEEE 1394 (firewire) or USB 2.0 enclosure and a > 80GB drive make for a pretty cheap and reliable backup. If you do it > right, you can even boot off it for emergency recovery. > > >It would be a British understatement to say that I'm miffed. > > Again, VERY few people used ide-tape. It's been termed "legacy" so it's > not a standard module any longer. Installing the kernel source does > require a couple of extra steps and the reason for it is in the release > notes (you did read them, didn't you?). Yes, I usually do. Must have missed any notes about the impending demise of ide-tape. > Building the module isn't hard. > > Sorry, but you're one of the "edge cases" as far as device support is > concerned. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - ...Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror - > - and you'd be on your own, pal! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for your help. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 19:50:53 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:50:53 -0800 Subject: Upgrade RHEL AS3 to AS4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4223761D.30109@vitalstream.com> Vikram Kalsi wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Does anyone know of all the ways in which we can upgrade from RHEL AS3 to AS4? There's two I know of: 1. Back up everything you need and do a fresh install, then restore your data. This is the safest way because there are massive differences between AS3 and AS4. 2. Do an "upgrade" install. There are dangers in that, but it works most of the time. AS4 is so new that I haven't personally seen such an upgrade. I did upgrade from FC1 to FC2 (2.4 kernel to 2.6 kernel) when FC2 came out (similar to an upgrade from AS3 to AS4). I had to do some tweaking, but I'm a geek and I got it to work fine. Your mileage may vary. Remember, AS3 uses a 2.4 kernel and AS4 uses a 2.6 kernel. The internals between the two kernels are RADICALLY different as well as the device handling (udev/devfs is standard in 2.6 kernels) and other things. You'll get used to it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 19:57:19 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:57:19 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>What the heck has happened to the ide-tape module in the 2.6 kernels? >>>The last FC2 kernel as distributed by KRUD, >>> >>>http://www.tummy.com/krud/ >>> >>>that supported my IDE tape drives was 2.6.8-1.521. Kernel >>>2.6.9-1.6_FC2 does not. And now that I've upgraded to FC3, with >>>kernel 2.6.10-1.766_FC3, I'm stuck with a dead tape drive. The one in >>>my file server is still ok because I haven't and won't upgrade that >>>until I have my backup needs covered. >>> >>>Now that they are no longer distributing the kernel-source RPM, I >>>guess I'm supposed to download the latest from kernel.org and build a >>>custom kernel. Phooey, I thought I was free of that many years ago >>>when they modularized the kernel. >> >>The kernel source is available, but not as "kernel-source-version.rpm". >>You must download the "kernel-version-src.rpm" (a true source RPM), then >>do the "rpmbuild -bp" on it. The reasons for not including a kernel >>source RPM are documented in the release notes and I won't go into them >>here. >> >> Glad to offer them. >>>Is there some alternate device I'm supposed to use? >> >>Nope. > > > I posted the same query to the krudusers list and just got the reply > that said to use the ide-scsi module. I tried it and it works fine. > The device is /dev/(n)st0 on my system. Really? Gee, ide-scsi got a lot smarter than it was. It didn't handle it before. > >>>Or do I bite the bullet and build a kernel? >> >>Build the kernel source as I outlined above. ide-tape is not part of >>the standard kernel build as there are, pardon my language, damned few >>people who used it. > > > Gee, and here I thought I was mainstream. :-) The aforementioned > respondent said ide-tape had been depreciated (sic) for some time. Yeah. Now that you say ide-scsi can handle it, I can understand why it's not a default module. In fact, the "make xconfig" reveals it to be "EXPERIMENTAL" and really only to handle a couple of drives that don't do ATAPI (essentially SCSI over IDE) well. >>>Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? >> >>ide-tape is ancient and not particularly reliable. DVDs are one option. >>So are things such as DAT or DLT (if you like tape). > > > I used to be. Unfortunately, it seemed that I could buy expensive > drives that used cheap tapes, or cheap drives that used expensive > tapes. Since the price has come way down on DVD (re)writers and > media, I think I know where I'm headed. Yeah, DVDs are a good idea, except for the extra space needed to build the DVD image before burning it. >>At the current >>cost of disk drives, an IEEE 1394 (firewire) or USB 2.0 enclosure and a >>80GB drive make for a pretty cheap and reliable backup. If you do it >>right, you can even boot off it for emergency recovery. >> >> >>>It would be a British understatement to say that I'm miffed. >> >>Again, VERY few people used ide-tape. It's been termed "legacy" so it's >>not a standard module any longer. Installing the kernel source does >>require a couple of extra steps and the reason for it is in the release >>notes (you did read them, didn't you?). > > > Yes, I usually do. Must have missed any notes about the impending > demise of ide-tape. The bit about the release notes was in regard to the demise of the kernel-source RPMs and why you have to install the kernel source RPM and do the rpmbuild on it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Dyslexics of the world: UNTIE! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From redhat at stuffandting.com Mon Feb 28 20:04:14 2005 From: redhat at stuffandting.com (Simon Hargrave) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:04:14 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Kickstart install on AS4? In-Reply-To: <42237331.3030903@vitalstream.com> References: <43376.213.38.213.226.1109586792.squirrel@beavis.home> <42237331.3030903@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1353.192.168.2.1.1109621054.squirrel@beavis.home> >> I'm having problems running a Kickstart installation on AS4 (on a HP >> DL360 >> server). The symptoms are: - >> >> 1) If I boot from CD and specify a Kickstart file on an NFS share as in: >> - >> >> linux ks=nfs:server:/share/kickstart.file >> >> It attempts to get a DHCP address (and fails as there isn't a server). >> So >> it prompts for network details, which I provide, and it fails with the >> following: - >> >> tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex. >> tg3: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX. >> loader: failed to set default route: Network is unreachable >> >> The server at this point is not pingable from anywhere (local segment or >> otherwise). The tg3 messages suggest the NIC is up, however it's odd >> that >> it can't ping, and the default route message is bizaare! > > Not really. You gave it an IP address and a netmask, but no route so > the system has no idea how to get to the NFS server. I've never done an > NFS install, but did the system ask for a default route or a gateway? > If so, then you should have specified the IP address for your router. > Note that the address of the router AND the address you gave the NIC > MUST be on the same network segment. No, I did give it all the information - IP, subnet, gateway and DNS server. The deault gateway IS on the same subnet as the IP address, these settings work fine with AS3. Furthermore, they also work on AS4 if I provide them on the boot prompt, eg:- linux ks=nfs:server:/path ip=x.x.x.x netmask=x.x.x.x gateway=x.x.x.x dns=x.x.x.x >> 2) If I boot again from CD but don't specify a Kickstart file, again it >> tries DHCP, then asks for details. However this time it establishes the >> LAN correctly. I can ping it from either the local segment or any other >> subnet. This is with providing exactly the same details as before. > > What's the command line you used to do that? No command line to do this, just the default setup. >> 3) The Kickstart boot works fine with an AS3 CD, which we have been >> doing >> for some time. > > AS3 is a 2.4 kernel. AS4 is a 2.6 kernel. They work differently. > >> What is the difference in the way the NIC is booted up in scenario 1) as >> opposed to scenario 2) that would cause it to fail? > > It may be a bug in anaconda. I'm now believing this to be the case. I have submitted a bugzilla. It seems that booting on a non-DHCP network (or a machine with no RJ45 connected) comes up with the spurious default route message, unless the details are hard-coded on the boot prompt. You should be able to reproduce this with: - disconnect your machine from the network boot off CD boot with linux ks=192.168.0.1:/test/path (the path doesn't matter it won't reach anyway) it will fail dhcp provide some valid ip details, again doesn't matter as RJ45 not connected. Watch tty4 and see the default route error after the eth0 Up messages. Now woot again, this time with linux ks=192.168.0.1:/test/path ip=192.168.0.10 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.0.254 This time it won't do DHCP, and the NIC will initialise correctly (confirm by looking at tty4 again - no error message). The machine is now pingable when you plug the wire in. I'll see what comes back from Bugzilla - either way I think it'll be a new burn of Disk 1 ISO to fully support NFS Kickstarts! From vikramkalsi at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 20:18:50 2005 From: vikramkalsi at gmail.com (Vikram Kalsi) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:18:50 -0500 Subject: Upgrade RHEL AS3 to AS4 In-Reply-To: <4223761D.30109@vitalstream.com> References: <4223761D.30109@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rick, I actually need the newer 2.6 version of the kernel more than other things. Would you suggest upgrading just the kernel from 2.4.21-15.EL to 2.6.9-5.0.3.EL on a RHEL AS3 install? This is a Itanium2 machine from IBM. Thanks again, On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:50:53 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Vikram Kalsi wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Does anyone know of all the ways in which we can upgrade from RHEL AS3 to AS4? > > There's two I know of: > > 1. Back up everything you need and do a fresh install, then restore your > data. This is the safest way because there are massive differences > between AS3 and AS4. > > 2. Do an "upgrade" install. There are dangers in that, but it works > most of the time. AS4 is so new that I haven't personally seen such > an upgrade. > > I did upgrade from FC1 to FC2 (2.4 kernel to 2.6 kernel) when FC2 came > out (similar to an upgrade from AS3 to AS4). I had to do some tweaking, > but I'm a geek and I got it to work fine. Your mileage may vary. > > Remember, AS3 uses a 2.4 kernel and AS4 uses a 2.6 kernel. The > internals between the two kernels are RADICALLY different as well as > the device handling (udev/devfs is standard in 2.6 kernels) and other > things. You'll get used to it. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 28 20:28:15 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:28:15 -0600 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:57:19AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> > >>>Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? > >> > >>ide-tape is ancient and not particularly reliable. DVDs are one option. > >>So are things such as DAT or DLT (if you like tape). > > > > > >I used to be. Unfortunately, it seemed that I could buy expensive > >drives that used cheap tapes, or cheap drives that used expensive > >tapes. Since the price has come way down on DVD (re)writers and > >media, I think I know where I'm headed. > > Yeah, DVDs are a good idea, except for the extra space needed to build > the DVD image before burning it. Umm, your next response mentions the low cost of disk drives. (Gotch last :-) > >>At the current > >>cost of disk drives, an IEEE 1394 (firewire) or USB 2.0 enclosure and a > >>80GB drive make for a pretty cheap and reliable backup. If you do it > >>right, you can even boot off it for emergency recovery. > >> > >> > >>>It would be a British understatement to say that I'm miffed. > >> > >>Again, VERY few people used ide-tape. It's been termed "legacy" so it's > >>not a standard module any longer. Installing the kernel source does > >>require a couple of extra steps and the reason for it is in the release > >>notes (you did read them, didn't you?). > > > > > >Yes, I usually do. Must have missed any notes about the impending > >demise of ide-tape. > > The bit about the release notes was in regard to the demise of the > kernel-source RPMs and why you have to install the kernel source RPM and > do the rpmbuild on it. Oh. Well, yeah, I saw that note. That wasn't a surprise. It was just that it complicated a possible solution to the surprising problem (disappearance of ide-tape). > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Dyslexics of the world: UNTIE! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 20:55:33 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:55:33 -0800 Subject: Upgrade RHEL AS3 to AS4 In-Reply-To: References: <4223761D.30109@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42238545.50505@vitalstream.com> Vikram Kalsi wrote: > Thanks Rick, > > I actually need the newer 2.6 version of the kernel more than other > things. Would you suggest upgrading just the kernel from 2.4.21-15.EL > to 2.6.9-5.0.3.EL on a RHEL AS3 install? This is a Itanium2 machine > from IBM. Upgrading the kernel to 2.6 requires other upgrades as well (modutils, kernel utils, rpm to mention a few). I started playing with 2.6 back when I still had RH9 on my laptop and I'm a geek, so I was comfortable with "playing" with it until it worked well. I can't recommend it to any tyros out there, however. There were several "What the f***?!" moments during the transition--some from ignorance, some from stupidity, some from not quite understanding just how intimate some of the stuff was with other bits. This was in the early days of 2.6, where there wasn't much of a safety net or a lot of people to ask for help. I was pretty much on my own. As an intellectual exercise, you learn a lot but it can be bloody frustrating. Since I don't know your skill level, I can only say that unless you're geeky and are willing to sort out the various incompatibilities and upgrades yourself, I'd suggest either a fresh install or an upgrade. Make sure you back up your user data and any "special" stuff you have before you do either. Wish I could be more helpful, but I won't suggest something that may make you tear your hair out or make your system unstable--and sorting out kernel issues can make a bishop kick out a stained-glass window! > Thanks again, No problem. > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:50:53 -0800, Rick Stevens > wrote: > >>Vikram Kalsi wrote: >> >>>Hi Everyone, >>> >>>Does anyone know of all the ways in which we can upgrade from RHEL AS3 to AS4? >> >>There's two I know of: >> >>1. Back up everything you need and do a fresh install, then restore your >>data. This is the safest way because there are massive differences >>between AS3 and AS4. >> >>2. Do an "upgrade" install. There are dangers in that, but it works >>most of the time. AS4 is so new that I haven't personally seen such >>an upgrade. >> >>I did upgrade from FC1 to FC2 (2.4 kernel to 2.6 kernel) when FC2 came >>out (similar to an upgrade from AS3 to AS4). I had to do some tweaking, >>but I'm a geek and I got it to work fine. Your mileage may vary. >> >>Remember, AS3 uses a 2.4 kernel and AS4 uses a 2.6 kernel. The >>internals between the two kernels are RADICALLY different as well as >>the device handling (udev/devfs is standard in 2.6 kernels) and other >>things. You'll get used to it. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Millihelen, adj: The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 21:09:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:09:08 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:57:19AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? >>>> >>>>ide-tape is ancient and not particularly reliable. DVDs are one option. >>>>So are things such as DAT or DLT (if you like tape). >>> >>> >>>I used to be. Unfortunately, it seemed that I could buy expensive >>>drives that used cheap tapes, or cheap drives that used expensive >>>tapes. Since the price has come way down on DVD (re)writers and >>>media, I think I know where I'm headed. >> >>Yeah, DVDs are a good idea, except for the extra space needed to build >>the DVD image before burning it. > > > Umm, your next response mentions the low cost of disk drives. (Gotch > last :-) Well, yeah, you can put in another drive just to create the images, but why not just back up to that drive instead? I do. Actually, I do "live" backups to firewire (instantly bootable), and due to my "tinkering" (read: shooting myself in the foot occasionally), VERY useful. I do archival backups to DLT. Once I have a week's worth of DLT tapes, they get burned to DVD and put away. The DLT tapes then get recycled. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get me! >>>>At the current >>>>cost of disk drives, an IEEE 1394 (firewire) or USB 2.0 enclosure and a >>>>80GB drive make for a pretty cheap and reliable backup. If you do it >>>>right, you can even boot off it for emergency recovery. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>It would be a British understatement to say that I'm miffed. >>>> >>>>Again, VERY few people used ide-tape. It's been termed "legacy" so it's >>>>not a standard module any longer. Installing the kernel source does >>>>require a couple of extra steps and the reason for it is in the release >>>>notes (you did read them, didn't you?). >>> >>> >>>Yes, I usually do. Must have missed any notes about the impending >>>demise of ide-tape. >> >>The bit about the release notes was in regard to the demise of the >>kernel-source RPMs and why you have to install the kernel source RPM and >>do the rpmbuild on it. > > > Oh. Well, yeah, I saw that note. That wasn't a surprise. It was > just that it complicated a possible solution to the surprising problem > (disappearance of ide-tape). Yeah. But since I don't use ide-tape (well, once WAY back when the ice sheets still covered most of North America), I never really noticed its demise. I fell into DEC's TK70s, then DAT, then DLT (TK70s on steroids). Heck, I even still have an old Kennedy 9-track that works (it last was connected to a RH9 system via an Adaptec 2940). Newbies freak out when I fire that bad boy up! Especially because the system used to play a sound file when it saw that drive: "Greetings, Professor Falkin! Would you like to play a game?" Ah, memories! Now, finding 9-track tape at a reasonable cost...that's tough! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkinz at kinz.org Mon Feb 28 21:19:09 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:19:09 -0500 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com>; from rstevens@vitalstream.com on Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:09:08PM -0800 References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050228161909.A29633@redline.comcast.net> On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:09:08PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Heck, I even still have an old Kennedy 9-track that works (it last was > connected to a RH9 system via an Adaptec 2940). Newbies freak out when > I fire that bad boy up! Especially because the system used to play a > sound file when it saw that drive: > > "Greetings, Professor Falkin! Would you like to play a game?" > > Ah, memories! Now, finding 9-track tape at a reasonable cost...that's > tough! hmm - how about an 8-track? :) -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 21:25:44 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:25:44 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <20050228161909.A29633@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> <20050228161909.A29633@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <42238C58.4010809@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:09:08PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Heck, I even still have an old Kennedy 9-track that works (it last was >>connected to a RH9 system via an Adaptec 2940). Newbies freak out when >>I fire that bad boy up! Especially because the system used to play a >>sound file when it saw that drive: >> >> "Greetings, Professor Falkin! Would you like to play a game?" >> >>Ah, memories! Now, finding 9-track tape at a reasonable cost...that's >>tough! > > > hmm - how about an 8-track? :) I'd use it, but I needed the parity bits and none of my machines since 1975 or so use 7-bit Baudot coding. Erp! :-p (Hey! Here's an old 8-track of Joni Mitchell! And The Allman Brothers! Carly Simon! Styx! Boston! MAN! I'm so old I fart dust!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When in doubt, mumble. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 28 21:33:03 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:33:03 -0600 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050228213303.GA28404@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:09:08PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:57:19AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> > >>>On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? > >>>> > >>>>ide-tape is ancient and not particularly reliable. DVDs are one option. > >>>>So are things such as DAT or DLT (if you like tape). > >>> > >>> > >>>I used to be. Unfortunately, it seemed that I could buy expensive > >>>drives that used cheap tapes, or cheap drives that used expensive > >>>tapes. Since the price has come way down on DVD (re)writers and > >>>media, I think I know where I'm headed. > >> > >>Yeah, DVDs are a good idea, except for the extra space needed to build > >>the DVD image before burning it. > > > > > >Umm, your next response mentions the low cost of disk drives. (Gotch > >last :-) > > Well, yeah, you can put in another drive just to create the images, but > why not just back up to that drive instead? I do. 1. I want to take my backups off-site for safety. 2. I don't want to use removable drives. One of my clients has had two nearly new 200GB IDE drives in removable carriers go south with a 55-gallon drum of disk errors in the last two weeks. I suspect he thumped them badly. He has been using them for backups. > Actually, I do "live" backups to firewire (instantly bootable), and due > to my "tinkering" (read: shooting myself in the foot occasionally), VERY > useful. I also want a reasonable history of backups, so that I can retrieve that file I hosed two weeks ago. > I do archival backups to DLT. Once I have a week's worth of DLT tapes, > they get burned to DVD and put away. The DLT tapes then get recycled. > Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T out to get me! > > >>>>At the current > >>>>cost of disk drives, an IEEE 1394 (firewire) or USB 2.0 enclosure and a > >>>>80GB drive make for a pretty cheap and reliable backup. If you do it > >>>>right, you can even boot off it for emergency recovery. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>It would be a British understatement to say that I'm miffed. > >>>> > >>>>Again, VERY few people used ide-tape. It's been termed "legacy" so it's > >>>>not a standard module any longer. Installing the kernel source does > >>>>require a couple of extra steps and the reason for it is in the release > >>>>notes (you did read them, didn't you?). > >>> > >>> > >>>Yes, I usually do. Must have missed any notes about the impending > >>>demise of ide-tape. > >> > >>The bit about the release notes was in regard to the demise of the > >>kernel-source RPMs and why you have to install the kernel source RPM and > >>do the rpmbuild on it. > > > > > >Oh. Well, yeah, I saw that note. That wasn't a surprise. It was > >just that it complicated a possible solution to the surprising problem > >(disappearance of ide-tape). > > Yeah. But since I don't use ide-tape (well, once WAY back when the ice > sheets still covered most of North America), I never really noticed its > demise. I fell into DEC's TK70s, then DAT, then DLT (TK70s on > steroids). > > Heck, I even still have an old Kennedy 9-track that works (it last was > connected to a RH9 system via an Adaptec 2940). Newbies freak out when > I fire that bad boy up! Especially because the system used to play a > sound file when it saw that drive: > > "Greetings, Professor Falkin! Would you like to play a game?" > > Ah, memories! Now, finding 9-track tape at a reasonable cost...that's > tough! Uh, oh. I sense an impending trip down memory lane, usually involving the competitive, "Oh, yeah? Well, I still have ...", usually including the exchange: "We programmed in 1s and 0s." "You had 1s?!?!" Me, I'm heading for the hills. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From jreyn at us.ibm.com Mon Feb 28 21:37:32 2005 From: jreyn at us.ibm.com (John Reynolds) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:37:32 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <20050228161909.A29633@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:09:08PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Heck, I even still have an old Kennedy 9-track that works (it last was > connected to a RH9 system via an Adaptec 2940). Newbies freak out when > I fire that bad boy up! Especially because the system used to play a > sound file when it saw that drive: > > "Greetings, Professor Falkin! Would you like to play a game?" > > Ah, memories! Now, finding 9-track tape at a reasonable cost...that's > tough! Ancient memory time: I used to download HAL9000's sound files, and have the last task in system startup be Hal's voice saying "Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. lab in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January, 1992." It was a sad day when rackmount servers stopped having speakers. Beeps just aren't as much fun. John Reynolds IBM-by-the-Bay San Francisco CA From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 22:15:14 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:15:14 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <20050228213303.GA28404@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> <20050228213303.GA28404@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <422397F2.6000803@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:09:08PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:57:19AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:13:31AM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Or do I accelerate my plan to start backing up to DVDs? >>>>>> >>>>>>ide-tape is ancient and not particularly reliable. DVDs are one option. >>>>>>So are things such as DAT or DLT (if you like tape). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I used to be. Unfortunately, it seemed that I could buy expensive >>>>>drives that used cheap tapes, or cheap drives that used expensive >>>>>tapes. Since the price has come way down on DVD (re)writers and >>>>>media, I think I know where I'm headed. >>>> >>>>Yeah, DVDs are a good idea, except for the extra space needed to build >>>>the DVD image before burning it. >>> >>> >>>Umm, your next response mentions the low cost of disk drives. (Gotch >>>last :-) >> >>Well, yeah, you can put in another drive just to create the images, but >>why not just back up to that drive instead? I do. > > > 1. I want to take my backups off-site for safety. My DLTs and DVDs go into a fire safe. It's not off-site, but it's fairly secure. > 2. I don't want to use removable drives. One of my clients has had > two nearly new 200GB IDE drives in removable carriers go south with > a 55-gallon drum of disk errors in the last two weeks. I suspect > he thumped them badly. He has been using them for backups. > > >>Actually, I do "live" backups to firewire (instantly bootable), and due >>to my "tinkering" (read: shooting myself in the foot occasionally), VERY >>useful. > > > I also want a reasonable history of backups, so that I can retrieve > that file I hosed two weeks ago. Which is why the archives go to DLT, then to DVD. The firewire is only for "on-the-fly" backups, when I plan to do something evil to the kernel or a device driver and so I can get back up fast. If I want an archival restore, I go pull a tape or DVD out of the safe. >>Yeah. But since I don't use ide-tape (well, once WAY back when the ice >>sheets still covered most of North America), I never really noticed its >>demise. I fell into DEC's TK70s, then DAT, then DLT (TK70s on >>steroids). >> >>Heck, I even still have an old Kennedy 9-track that works (it last was >>connected to a RH9 system via an Adaptec 2940). Newbies freak out when >>I fire that bad boy up! Especially because the system used to play a >>sound file when it saw that drive: >> >> "Greetings, Professor Falkin! Would you like to play a game?" >> >>Ah, memories! Now, finding 9-track tape at a reasonable cost...that's >>tough! > > > Uh, oh. I sense an impending trip down memory lane, usually involving > the competitive, "Oh, yeah? Well, I still have ...", usually > including the exchange: > > "We programmed in 1s and 0s." > > "You had 1s?!?!" > > Me, I'm heading for the hills. Heheheh! No, I'm not going down RAM road. I just am loathe to toss out ancient but working hardware. There have been a number of times where people have hunted me down to recover data because I still had the only functional so-and-so they knew of. You should see the collection of, umh, "classic" stuff I have laying about. About six months ago, a chap I used to work with at JPL sent me two 9-tracks of data he needed. I got the data off and onto CD for him. Turned out it was some stress analysis data from Apollo 10 that they wanted to compare against the failure data for Columbia. Don't ask me why 30-odd-year-old data was relevant, but they wanted it and I had the system with a 9-track and CD burner that he knew worked reliably. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 22:19:22 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:19:22 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422398EA.8000507@vitalstream.com> John Reynolds wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:09:08PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Heck, I even still have an old Kennedy 9-track that works (it last was >>connected to a RH9 system via an Adaptec 2940). Newbies freak out when >>I fire that bad boy up! Especially because the system used to play a >>sound file when it saw that drive: >> >> "Greetings, Professor Falkin! Would you like to play a game?" >> >>Ah, memories! Now, finding 9-track tape at a reasonable cost...that's >>tough! > > > Ancient memory time: > > I used to download HAL9000's sound files, and have the last task in system > startup be Hal's voice saying > > "Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational > at the H.A.L. lab in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January, 1992." > > It was a sad day when rackmount servers stopped having speakers. Beeps > just aren't as much fun. Yup. Actually, all of my machines use the sound effect from the Jetsons' car when they start up. My favorite was my old Amiga. When she fired up, she played a sound clip from Mystery Science Theater 3000 where Joel says, "Hey! Has anyone seen the mouse for my Amiga?" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Registered Amiga Developer CATS 01750 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Feb 28 22:26:24 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:26:24 -0600 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <422397F2.6000803@vitalstream.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> <20050228213303.GA28404@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <422397F2.6000803@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050228222624.GA31260@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 02:15:14PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > Heheheh! No, I'm not going down RAM road. I just am loathe to toss out > ancient but working hardware. There have been a number of times where > people have hunted me down to recover data because I still had the only > functional so-and-so they knew of. You should see the collection of, > umh, "classic" stuff I have laying about. > > About six months ago, a chap I used to work with at JPL sent me two > 9-tracks of data he needed. I got the data off and onto CD for him. > Turned out it was some stress analysis data from Apollo 10 that they > wanted to compare against the failure data for Columbia. Don't ask me > why 30-odd-year-old data was relevant, but they wanted it and I had the > system with a 9-track and CD burner that he knew worked reliably. Hmm. Maybe I should forward this to my wife as justification for some of this antique stuff I keep around. Change her mind? I should live so long. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - > - understand binary and those who don't - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com The best home improvement manual is the Bible. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Feb 28 23:47:50 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:47:50 -0800 Subject: Whither the ide-tape module In-Reply-To: <20050228222624.GA31260@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050228032649.GA19417@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42236D5B.90405@vitalstream.com> <20050228194549.GA24021@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4223779F.4000001@vitalstream.com> <20050228202815.GA25523@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42238874.9060302@vitalstream.com> <20050228213303.GA28404@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <422397F2.6000803@vitalstream.com> <20050228222624.GA31260@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4223ADA6.80507@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 02:15:14PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> >> >>Heheheh! No, I'm not going down RAM road. I just am loathe to toss out >>ancient but working hardware. There have been a number of times where >>people have hunted me down to recover data because I still had the only >>functional so-and-so they knew of. You should see the collection of, >>umh, "classic" stuff I have laying about. >> >>About six months ago, a chap I used to work with at JPL sent me two >>9-tracks of data he needed. I got the data off and onto CD for him. >>Turned out it was some stress analysis data from Apollo 10 that they >>wanted to compare against the failure data for Columbia. Don't ask me >>why 30-odd-year-old data was relevant, but they wanted it and I had the >>system with a 9-track and CD burner that he knew worked reliably. > > > Hmm. Maybe I should forward this to my wife as justification for some > of this antique stuff I keep around. Change her mind? I should live > so long. It's an upside of still being a bachelor, Bob. The downside is that I'll probably remain a bachelor since no woman wants this stuff around. They want their own chotchkies (sp?), not mine. Can you say "Catch-22"? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Linux is like a wigwam...no windows, no gates...and apache inside! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------