From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Jun 1 01:59:43 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:29:43 +0530 Subject: sendmail Message-ID: <006a01c5664d$94f92cc0$260210ac@tivimnet> hi gurus can u tell me where to put my pop username, password and domail entries in sendmail.mc file. thanks regards ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 1 19:31:18 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 12:31:18 -0700 Subject: sendmail In-Reply-To: <006a01c5664d$94f92cc0$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <006a01c5664d$94f92cc0$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <429E0D06.10206@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > hi gurus > > can u tell me where to put my pop username, password and domail entries > in sendmail.mc file. Your pop username and password don't go into sendmail.mc. The pop server pulls them out of the normal authentication mechanisms that the system uses to log you in. I don't know what you mean by "domail". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Wed Jun 1 21:31:05 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 00:31:05 +0300 Subject: sendmail In-Reply-To: <429E0D06.10206@vitalstream.com> References: <006a01c5664d$94f92cc0$260210ac@tivimnet> <429E0D06.10206@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <429E2919.10200@cha.forthnet.gr> Greetings Rick , Rick Stevens wrote: > ajay wrote: > >> hi gurus >> >> can u tell me where to put my pop username, password and domail >> entries in sendmail.mc file. > > > Your pop username and password don't go into sendmail.mc. The pop > server pulls them out of the normal authentication mechanisms that the > system uses to log you in. The only time i recall sendmail being anywhere near pop server was while using fetchmail which actually fetches email and then calls sendmail for the delivery but perhaps i don't understand the scenario used here . > > I don't know what you mean by "domail". Probably the Original Poster means domain ( the "hostname -d" thing , ) which is the Cw class if i recall well . I have a Local_Domain('localhost.localdomain')dnl thing in my mc file , but well i have sendmail 8.13.3 here Kind Regards, kostas From virtgrav at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 00:54:48 2005 From: virtgrav at comcast.net (ejp) Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:54:48 -0400 Subject: Oracle 10g on RedHat 9.0 system Message-ID: <429E58D8.2090001@comcast.net> Has anyone been able to install Oracle 10g on a RedHat 9.0 system with all the requirement except, ES of course? Thanks, Eric From sysadmin at tivimtech.com Wed Jun 1 20:36:06 2005 From: sysadmin at tivimtech.com (ajay) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 02:06:06 +0530 Subject: sendmail References: <006a01c5664d$94f92cc0$260210ac@tivimnet> <429E0D06.10206@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <006d01c566e9$8a388460$260210ac@tivimnet> ok mr stevens pls. tell me which particular file is responsible for it and what where to put entries if username, password and pop mail server. before i used to use vpop3 , there i know where to put these , here i need your help thanks regards ajay ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Stevens To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:01 AM Subject: Re: sendmail > ajay wrote: > > hi gurus > > > > can u tell me where to put my pop username, password and domail entries > > in sendmail.mc file. > > Your pop username and password don't go into sendmail.mc. The pop > server pulls them out of the normal authentication mechanisms that the > system uses to log you in. > > I don't know what you mean by "domail". > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From mikev777 at hotmail.com Thu Jun 2 09:01:18 2005 From: mikev777 at hotmail.com (Michael Velez) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 05:01:18 -0400 Subject: Oracle 10g on RedHat 9.0 system In-Reply-To: <429E58D8.2090001@comcast.net> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of ejp > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:55 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Oracle 10g on RedHat 9.0 system > > Has anyone been able to install Oracle 10g on a RedHat 9.0 > system with all the requirement except, ES of course? > Thanks, > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > I haven't installed on RedHat 9.0 but I have installed on RHEL WS, which is a lot cheaper than ES. With WS, you get the advantage that you have a "certified" (although, in legalese you don't) operating system since WS and ES are very similar except for support for certain server packages (probably some other differences but none as far as I can tell from an Oracle standpoint). All install scripts will work out of the box without any tweaking whatsoever, and installation is 100% smooth. Of course, no technical support for Oracle either (as it's on WS) but I gather that would not be an issue as you want to put it on RedHat 9.0. It works for me, as a home user. Michael From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 2 17:03:04 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:03:04 -0700 Subject: sendmail In-Reply-To: <006d01c566e9$8a388460$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <006a01c5664d$94f92cc0$260210ac@tivimnet> <429E0D06.10206@vitalstream.com> <006d01c566e9$8a388460$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <429F3BC8.5000905@vitalstream.com> ajay wrote: > ok mr stevens pls. tell me which particular file is responsible for it and > what where to put entries if username, password and pop mail server. > > before i used to use vpop3 , there i know where to put these , here i need > your help Again, POP uses the same authentication that a normal login uses. If you can log into the machine at a username prompt, you can log in using POP. Use the same username and password that you would to access the machine during a normal login. If that's unclear, in your POP program, the "account" is your username, and the password is the same one you use normally. If you were to telnet to the POP port, you could test it like this: telnet popserver.yourdomain.tld 110 <<<--POP listens on port 110 +OK Pop server ready <<<---pop server sends a greeting USER your-username <<<---You send it your username +OK User name accepted, password please <<<--- Server wants password PASS your-password <<<---You enter your password +OK Mailbox open, 22 messages <<<--- AH! The login is accepted! QUIT <<<---You log out +OK Bye now! <<<---The server says "Bye, bye!" > > thanks > > regards > > ajay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Stevens > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:01 AM > Subject: Re: sendmail > > > >>ajay wrote: >> >>>hi gurus >>> >>>can u tell me where to put my pop username, password and domail entries >>>in sendmail.mc file. >> >>Your pop username and password don't go into sendmail.mc. The pop >>server pulls them out of the normal authentication mechanisms that the >>system uses to log you in. >> >>I don't know what you mean by "domail". >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From virtgrav at comcast.net Thu Jun 2 19:24:20 2005 From: virtgrav at comcast.net (virtgrav at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:24:20 +0000 Subject: Oracle 10g on RedHat 9.0 system Message-ID: <060220051924.873.429F5CE4000AD0B4000003692200735446900E9D099B9D0790@comcast.net> Michael, Thanks for the reply. I thought about the WS, but it would add a middle step in my procedures and then I would be purchasing two systems. Since I have 9.0 up and working and sharing files as a server. I was hoping that someone tried. Looks like I will have to bite the bullet for ES to setup 10g and htmldb. Thanks again, Eric -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of ejp > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:55 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Oracle 10g on RedHat 9.0 system > > > > Has anyone been able to install Oracle 10g on a RedHat 9.0 > > system with all the requirement except, ES of course? > > Thanks, > > > > Eric > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > I haven't installed on RedHat 9.0 but I have installed on RHEL WS, which is > a lot cheaper than ES. With WS, you get the advantage that you have a > "certified" (although, in legalese you don't) operating system since WS and > ES are very similar except for support for certain server packages (probably > some other differences but none as far as I can tell from an Oracle > standpoint). All install scripts will work out of the box without any > tweaking whatsoever, and installation is 100% smooth. > > Of course, no technical support for Oracle either (as it's on WS) but I > gather that would not be an issue as you want to put it on RedHat 9.0. > > It works for me, as a home user. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Thu Jun 2 21:56:24 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 00:56:24 +0300 Subject: sendmail In-Reply-To: <006d01c566e9$8a388460$260210ac@tivimnet> References: <006a01c5664d$94f92cc0$260210ac@tivimnet> <429E0D06.10206@vitalstream.com> <006d01c566e9$8a388460$260210ac@tivimnet> Message-ID: <429F8088.4020405@cha.forthnet.gr> Greetings ajay, ajay wrote: > ok mr stevens pls. tell me which particular file is responsible for it and > what where to put entries if username, password and pop mail server. > > before i used to use vpop3 , there i know where to put these , here i need > your help Ajay is it possible that you want to fetch emails from your POP Server by using sendmail ? If that's the case , then the answer is that that's impossible since sendmail is unable to fetch emails from a POP Server , so there is no sendmail configuration file , where you can put a username and a password in order for sendmail to be able to fetch emails from a POP Server . In that particular case you need an "Email fetching programm" and not sendmail . Kind Regards, Kostas From mikerault at yahoo.com Thu Jun 2 23:21:27 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Oracle 10g on RedHat 9.0 system In-Reply-To: <060220051924.873.429F5CE4000AD0B4000003692200735446900E9D099B9D0790@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20050602232127.21666.qmail@web30806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Try: http://www.puschitz.com/OracleOnLinux.shtml --- virtgrav at comcast.net wrote: > Michael, > Thanks for the reply. I thought about the WS, but it > would add a middle step in my procedures and then I > would be purchasing two systems. Since I have 9.0 up > and working and sharing files as a server. I was > hoping that someone tried. Looks like I will have to > bite the bullet for ES to setup 10g and htmldb. > > Thanks again, > > Eric > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > > > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] > On Behalf Of ejp > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:55 PM > > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > Subject: Oracle 10g on RedHat 9.0 system > > > > > > Has anyone been able to install Oracle 10g on a > RedHat 9.0 > > > system with all the requirement except, ES of > course? > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > > I haven't installed on RedHat 9.0 but I have > installed on RHEL WS, which is > > a lot cheaper than ES. With WS, you get the > advantage that you have a > > "certified" (although, in legalese you don't) > operating system since WS and > > ES are very similar except for support for certain > server packages (probably > > some other differences but none as far as I can > tell from an Oracle > > standpoint). All install scripts will work out of > the box without any > > tweaking whatsoever, and installation is 100% > smooth. > > > > Of course, no technical support for Oracle either > (as it's on WS) but I > > gather that would not be an issue as you want to > put it on RedHat 9.0. > > > > It works for me, as a home user. > > > > Michael > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com Fri Jun 3 04:25:12 2005 From: Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com (Uher, Lubomir) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 05:25:12 +0100 Subject: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 Message-ID: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E147976304B0415C@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> Hello all, I am a newbie in Linux users. I have tried to start with installation RH9.0 system to DELL PowerEdge 2200. I selected installation with booting from floppy. After the system booting I selected installation method from local CDROM. System requested driver's installation. During this process system found SCSI driver aic7xxx and was successfully loaded. But no RH's CD was found in CDROM and I couldn't continue with installation. Could you help me, please ? Thank you very much. Lubomir From ed.matuszak at comcast.net Fri Jun 3 04:46:41 2005 From: ed.matuszak at comcast.net (Edward Matuszak) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:46:41 -0700 Subject: setting CRT parameters Message-ID: I recently changed monitors, and the original settings used by Redhat linux no longer work. Where does the system get the values for resolution, scan rate, etc.? The new monitor is unable to display anything as soon as the x windows subsystem comes up. i.e. black screen I can remotely access the system, so I would like to reset to a minimum vga configuration via config files, startup scripts, etc.??? thanks. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Fri Jun 3 13:02:14 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:02:14 -0500 Subject: setting CRT parameters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050603130214.GA3850@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:46:41PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > I recently changed monitors, and the original settings used by Redhat linux > no longer work. > Where does the system get the values for resolution, scan rate, etc.? The > new monitor is unable to display anything as soon as the x windows subsystem > comes up. i.e. black screen > > I can remotely access the system, so I would like to reset to a minimum vga > configuration via config files, startup scripts, etc.??? > > thanks. Try (as root) system-config-display --reconfig Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Jun 3 21:54:17 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:54:17 -0700 Subject: EL 4.0 and how it does Networking now. Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > > Then, in /etc/modprobe.conf: > > alias eth0 bcm5700 > alias eth1 bcm5700 > alias eth2 e1000 > alias eth3 e1000 > install bond0 /sbin/modprobe -a eth0 eth1 && /sbin/modprobe bonding > alias bond0 bonding > options bond0 mode=x,miimon=100,primary=eth0,etc. > install bond1 /sbin/modprobe -a eth2 eth3 && /sbin/modprobe bonding > alias bond1 bonding > options bond1 mode=x,miimon=100,primary=eth2,etc. Only one problem... you can only set options for bonding ONCE. Across the board for all interfaces, Redhat recognizes that as a problem and told me they were fixing it. If you do this this way, this is what you end up with: [root at lcas200 ~]# ifconfig bond0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:0A:56:54:68 inet addr:132.224.158.28 Bcast:132.224.158.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::200:ff:fe00:0/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:78 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:8426 (8.2 KiB) TX bytes:8420 (8.2 KiB) eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:0A:56:54:68 inet addr:132.224.158.28 Bcast:132.224.158.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::211:aff:fe56:5468/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:50 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:40 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:4694 (4.5 KiB) TX bytes:4607 (4.4 KiB) Base address:0x4000 Memory:fdde0000-fde00000 eth4 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:0A:56:54:68 inet addr:132.224.158.28 Bcast:132.224.158.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::211:aff:fe56:5468/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:40 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:3796 (3.7 KiB) TX bytes:4521 (4.4 KiB) Base address:0x5040 Memory:fde60000-fde80000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1098 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1098 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1266608 (1.2 MiB) TX bytes:1266608 (1.2 MiB) [root at lcas200 ~]# ifup bond1 /sbin/modprobe bonding device bond1 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization. [root at lcas200 ~]# From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Jun 3 23:07:32 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:07:32 -0700 Subject: EL 4.0 and how it does Networking now. Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > > Then, in /etc/modprobe.conf: > > alias eth0 bcm5700 > alias eth1 bcm5700 > alias eth2 e1000 > alias eth3 e1000 > install bond0 /sbin/modprobe -a eth0 eth1 && /sbin/modprobe bonding > alias bond0 bonding > options bond0 mode=x,miimon=100,primary=eth0,etc. > install bond1 /sbin/modprobe -a eth2 eth3 && /sbin/modprobe bonding > alias bond1 bonding > options bond1 mode=x,miimon=100,primary=eth2,etc. > Btw - Here was the final winning combination that seems to work: alias eth0 bcm5700 alias eth1 e1000 alias eth2 e1000 alias eth3 e1000 alias eth4 e1000 install bond0 /sbin/modprobe -a eth1 eth4 && /sbin/modprobe bonding alias bond0 bonding install bond1 /sbin/modprobe -a eth2 eth3 && /sbin/modprobe bonding alias bond1 bonding options bonding mode=0 miimon=100 max_bonds=2 alias scsi_hostadapter mptbase alias scsi_hostadapter1 mptscsih alias scsi_hostadapter2 cciss alias usb-controller ehci-hcd alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Jun 3 23:59:41 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:59:41 -0700 Subject: EL 4.0 and how it does Networking now. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42A0EEED.1070406@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >> >>Then, in /etc/modprobe.conf: >> >> alias eth0 bcm5700 >> alias eth1 bcm5700 >> alias eth2 e1000 >> alias eth3 e1000 >> install bond0 /sbin/modprobe -a eth0 eth1 && /sbin/modprobe > > bonding > >> alias bond0 bonding >> options bond0 mode=x,miimon=100,primary=eth0,etc. >> install bond1 /sbin/modprobe -a eth2 eth3 && /sbin/modprobe > > bonding > >> alias bond1 bonding >> options bond1 mode=x,miimon=100,primary=eth2,etc. >> > > Btw - Here was the final winning combination that seems to work: > > > alias eth0 bcm5700 > alias eth1 e1000 > alias eth2 e1000 > alias eth3 e1000 > alias eth4 e1000 > install bond0 /sbin/modprobe -a eth1 eth4 && /sbin/modprobe bonding > alias bond0 bonding > install bond1 /sbin/modprobe -a eth2 eth3 && /sbin/modprobe bonding > alias bond1 bonding > options bonding mode=0 miimon=100 max_bonds=2 > alias scsi_hostadapter mptbase > alias scsi_hostadapter1 mptscsih > alias scsi_hostadapter2 cciss > alias usb-controller ehci-hcd > alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd Well done, Travis! Glad you could sort it out. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Brain: The organ with which we think that we think. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ed.matuszak at comcast.net Sat Jun 4 01:49:09 2005 From: ed.matuszak at comcast.net (Edward Matuszak) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:49:09 -0700 Subject: setting CRT parameters In-Reply-To: <20050603130214.GA3850@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: > Subject: Re: setting CRT parameters > > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:46:41PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > I recently changed monitors, and the original settings used by > Redhat linux > > no longer work. > > Where does the system get the values for resolution, scan rate, > etc.? The > > new monitor is unable to display anything as soon as the x > windows subsystem > > comes up. i.e. black screen > > > > I can remotely access the system, so I would like to reset to a > minimum vga > > configuration via config files, startup scripts, etc.??? > > > > thanks. > > Try (as root) > > system-config-display --reconfig > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ Did not work ... command not found (from a terminal session). I looked in /etc/sysconfig, but didn't see anything obvious. I can only access via ssh/telnet, so I need to find the relevant config file, setup script, or whatever the system uses to set up the CRT refresh rate, resolution, etc. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sat Jun 4 09:58:05 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 04:58:05 -0500 Subject: setting CRT parameters In-Reply-To: References: <20050603130214.GA3850@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050604095805.GA11689@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:49:09PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > Subject: Re: setting CRT parameters > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:46:41PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > > I recently changed monitors, and the original settings used by > > Redhat linux > > > no longer work. > > > Where does the system get the values for resolution, scan rate, > > etc.? The > > > new monitor is unable to display anything as soon as the x > > windows subsystem > > > comes up. i.e. black screen > > > > > > I can remotely access the system, so I would like to reset to a > > minimum vga > > > configuration via config files, startup scripts, etc.??? > > > > > > thanks. > > > > Try (as root) > > > > system-config-display --reconfig > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Did not work ... command not found (from a terminal session). > > I looked in /etc/sysconfig, but didn't see anything obvious. > > I can only access via ssh/telnet, so I need to find the relevant config > file, setup script, or whatever the system uses to set up the CRT refresh > rate, resolution, etc. See http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#text_login to see how to at least get a text-mode login. I forgot to ask what version of RedHat or Fedora Core. In earlier versions, the command was system-config-xfree86 --reconfig and before that redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig and before that Xconfigurator --reconfig See also http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From digvijoy_chatterjee at infosys.com Sat Jun 4 17:26:27 2005 From: digvijoy_chatterjee at infosys.com (Digvijoy Chatterjee) Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 22:56:27 +0530 Subject: noob to network install Message-ID: <1117905987.8990.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> I want to do a network install with a given kickstart file. questions: a) how do i pass options once i have booted using my 1.44 MB,My Network Administrator has kept the necessary files (all RedHat Subdirs from the 4 cds) as an NFS export on a remote server, how do i mount after boot up and start Installations and also ask it to read stuff from a kickstart file b) Is there any way to do this on a system which doesnt have slot for any floppy disks. TIA Digz Aut disce Aut Discede Aut Vincere Aut Mori Either learn or leave Either conquer or die Digz at IBD_LINX From ed.matuszak at comcast.net Sun Jun 5 06:01:11 2005 From: ed.matuszak at comcast.net (Edward Matuszak) Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 23:01:11 -0700 Subject: setting CRT parameters In-Reply-To: <20050604095805.GA11689@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure > Jr > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:58 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: setting CRT parameters > > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:49:09PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > > Subject: Re: setting CRT parameters > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:46:41PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > > > I recently changed monitors, and the original settings used by > > > Redhat linux > > > > no longer work. > > > > Where does the system get the values for resolution, scan rate, > > > etc.? The > > > > new monitor is unable to display anything as soon as the x > > > windows subsystem > > > > comes up. i.e. black screen > > > > > > > > I can remotely access the system, so I would like to reset to a > > > minimum vga > > > > configuration via config files, startup scripts, etc.??? > > > > > > > > thanks. > > > > > > Try (as root) > > > > > > system-config-display --reconfig > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -- > > > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Did not work ... command not found (from a terminal session). > > > > I looked in /etc/sysconfig, but didn't see anything obvious. > > > > I can only access via ssh/telnet, so I need to find the relevant config > > file, setup script, or whatever the system uses to set up the > CRT refresh > > rate, resolution, etc. > > See > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#text_login > > to see how to at least get a text-mode login. > > I forgot to ask what version of RedHat or Fedora Core. In earlier > versions, the command was > > system-config-xfree86 --reconfig > > and before that > > redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig > > and before that > > Xconfigurator --reconfig > > See also > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God is more interested in our availability than our ability. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe It's Linux 2.4.20-8 and the command: redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig did the trick. Thanks! The frame rate, however, seems to be 60hz ( It looks like it is flickering), and there doesn't seem to be a way to directly specify it. The vertical refresh rate is given as a range (e.g. 50.0-160.0) in the "advanced" option tab under display settings. It seems to think it has an ATI Mach64 video card, and I don't have a clue if that is correct since this is an old e-machine with the video built in to the motherboard. Is there a way to verify what the actual chipset is and what X has set the parameters to? xdpyinfo doesn't show scan freq, and the config file set up by the "redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig" command doesn't seem to specify it either. (It's not obvious, anyway.) I vaguely recall that when I had the original monitor connected it did not flicker (i.e. not set to 60hz) It would be nice to set the scan rate to 72hz. Ed From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Jun 5 11:43:44 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 06:43:44 -0500 Subject: setting CRT parameters In-Reply-To: References: <20050604095805.GA11689@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050605114344.GA16361@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 11:01:11PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure > > Jr > > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:58 AM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: setting CRT parameters > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:49:09PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: setting CRT parameters > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 09:46:41PM -0700, Edward Matuszak wrote: > > > > > I recently changed monitors, and the original settings used by > > > > Redhat linux > > > > > no longer work. > > > > > Where does the system get the values for resolution, scan rate, > > > > etc.? The > > > > > new monitor is unable to display anything as soon as the x > > > > windows subsystem > > > > > comes up. i.e. black screen > > > > > > > > > > I can remotely access the system, so I would like to reset to a > > > > minimum vga > > > > > configuration via config files, startup scripts, etc.??? > > > > > > > > > > thanks. > > > > > > > > Try (as root) > > > > > > > > system-config-display --reconfig > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > > > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Did not work ... command not found (from a terminal session). > > > > > > I looked in /etc/sysconfig, but didn't see anything obvious. > > > > > > I can only access via ssh/telnet, so I need to find the relevant config > > > file, setup script, or whatever the system uses to set up the > > CRT refresh > > > rate, resolution, etc. > > > > See > > > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#text_login > > > > to see how to at least get a text-mode login. > > > > I forgot to ask what version of RedHat or Fedora Core. In earlier > > versions, the command was > > > > system-config-xfree86 --reconfig > > > > and before that > > > > redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig > > > > and before that > > > > Xconfigurator --reconfig > > > > See also > > > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > It's Linux 2.4.20-8 and the command: > > redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig > > did the trick. Thanks! > > The frame rate, however, seems to be 60hz ( It looks like it is flickering), > and there doesn't seem to be a way to directly specify it. The vertical > refresh rate is given as a range (e.g. 50.0-160.0) in the "advanced" option > tab under display settings. It seems to think it has an ATI Mach64 video > card, and I don't have a clue if that is correct since this is an old > e-machine with the video built in to the motherboard. Try a lower screen resolution or color depth. That should allow it to use a higher refresh rate. > Is there a way to verify what the actual chipset is and what X has set the > parameters to? xdpyinfo doesn't show scan freq, and the config file set up > by the "redhat-config-xfree86 --reconfig" command doesn't seem to specify it > either. (It's not obvious, anyway.) I vaguely recall that when I had the > original monitor connected it did not flicker (i.e. not set to 60hz) Look at /var/log/X*.0.log. While you are there, see to it that it found the right amount of memory for your video. If it found less memory than it really has, then you will get an unnecessarily low resolution/depth/refresh rate. > It would be nice to set the scan rate to 72hz. Yes, flicker is the pits. > Ed Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Jun 7 04:18:22 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:18:22 -0700 Subject: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Uher, Lubomir [mailto:Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:25 PM > To: 'redhat-install-list at redhat.com' > Subject: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 > > Hello all, > > I am a newbie in Linux users. I have tried to start with installation > RH9.0 > system to DELL PowerEdge 2200. I selected installation with booting from > floppy. After the system booting I selected installation method from local > CDROM. System requested driver's installation. During this process system > found SCSI driver aic7xxx and was successfully loaded. But no RH's CD was > found in CDROM and I couldn't continue with installation. > > Could you help me, please ? > > Thank you very much. > > Lubomir First the basics. Can you boot off CD? I mean, is the cdrom drive actually working? If it is working, which SCSI OR IDE controller is it plugged in to? From Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com Tue Jun 7 08:18:20 2005 From: Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com (Uher, Lubomir) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:18:20 +0100 Subject: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 Message-ID: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E147976304B0415D@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> Hello, many thanks for your response. I can boot only from floppy drive, because without driver RH9.0 doesn't recognize SCSI controller on DELL PC. I mean, that CDROM drive isn't still working. System was recognized only ADAPTEC SCSI controller, but no SCSI CDROM drive. I supposed, that system found CDROM drive automatically. Could you give some direction for this issue ? Thank you very much. Lubomir -----Original Message----- From: Waldher, Travis R [mailto:Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com] Sent: 7. juna 2005 6:18 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: RE: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 > -----Original Message----- > From: Uher, Lubomir [mailto:Lubomir.Uher at eu.sony.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:25 PM > To: 'redhat-install-list at redhat.com' > Subject: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 > > Hello all, > > I am a newbie in Linux users. I have tried to start with installation > RH9.0 > system to DELL PowerEdge 2200. I selected installation with booting from > floppy. After the system booting I selected installation method from local > CDROM. System requested driver's installation. During this process system > found SCSI driver aic7xxx and was successfully loaded. But no RH's CD was > found in CDROM and I couldn't continue with installation. > > Could you help me, please ? > > Thank you very much. > > Lubomir First the basics. Can you boot off CD? I mean, is the cdrom drive actually working? If it is working, which SCSI OR IDE controller is it plugged in to? _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 7 18:02:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:02:31 -0700 Subject: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 In-Reply-To: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E147976304B0415D@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> References: <0A42245CC6C8174F9C630EC8E147976304B0415D@sktrnsskmsx01.eu.sony.com> Message-ID: <42A5E137.4090907@vitalstream.com> Uher, Lubomir wrote: > Hello, > > many thanks for your response. > > I can boot only from floppy drive, because without driver RH9.0 doesn't > recognize SCSI controller on DELL PC. > > I mean, that CDROM drive isn't still working. System was recognized only > ADAPTEC SCSI controller, but no SCSI CDROM drive. I supposed, that system > found CDROM drive automatically. > > Could you give some direction for this issue ? When the BIOS comes up on the machine, does the CD show up on the IDE controller or the SCSI controller? Does the BIOS even see the Adaptec? The RH9 CDs should absolutely recognize any Adaptec SCSI controller with the 78xx or 79xx chipset. The floppy should also, if you used the bootdisk.img file to create it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Jun 7 18:44:31 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:44:31 -0700 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage Message-ID: Ok... let's get past the AACKK!!! Why would you poison your linux box with that!?? Lol Is there a GOOD step by step tutorial on how to use the frontpage extensions on the server side anywhere? I have them loaded, I just don't know how to use them and make it available for my websites. Thanks, Travis From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 7 19:14:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 12:14:27 -0700 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42A5F213.80503@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Ok... let's get past the AACKK!!! Why would you poison your linux box > with that!?? Lol > > Is there a GOOD step by step tutorial on how to use the frontpage > extensions on the server side anywhere? I have them loaded, I just > don't know how to use them and make it available for my websites. Oh, GOD! Frontpage with Apache is a farking nightmare, Travis. We used to offer it and gave it up as a real management nightmare. I'd have to go back and look at my archives to give you details, but I do recall that each user's directory has to have the FP executables in it. Doing this on a virtualhost system can be horrific. Man, if I could ever dissuade you from even offering such an awful abomination, I'd do it. Microsoft doesn't even support it anymore. There are literally hundreds of HTML generators out there that only need an FTP upload to make them live and they'll work on IE, Apache or any other webserver out there. Do NOT get into this black hole. Trust me! Treat it like a hotel fire...stay low and just get the hell outathere! > > Thanks, > Travis > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Warning: You are logged into reality as the root user... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at retirementpartner.com Tue Jun 7 20:15:02 2005 From: brad.mugleston at retirementpartner.com (Mugleston, Brad) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:15:02 -0600 Subject: Large Hard Drive install problems Message-ID: <5AADC64B5181E843B01590385C25D8B51D5AE3@its-exmail2.its.corp.gwl.com> I was given a PII computer - generic brand, can't read who made the board w/o pulling the computer apart. I'm going to use it as a file server for my house and I've got a 160G hard drive to put in it. It only recognizes 8G of the drive. Do I need a special card for this drive or am I doing something wrong during the FC2 install? Maybe a bios upgrade? If its a driver card what information do I need to have to get the right one? It's a 160G ATA 100 drive. Slow but cheep. If it's bios - I haven't upgraded a bios for a long time will I need to install windows to do this (I don't remember seeing a bios upgrade for Linux but again that was awhile ago). Thanks Brad From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 7 20:31:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:31:37 -0700 Subject: Large Hard Drive install problems In-Reply-To: <5AADC64B5181E843B01590385C25D8B51D5AE3@its-exmail2.its.corp.gwl.com> References: <5AADC64B5181E843B01590385C25D8B51D5AE3@its-exmail2.its.corp.gwl.com> Message-ID: <42A60429.8040406@vitalstream.com> Mugleston, Brad wrote: > I was given a PII computer - generic brand, can't read who made the board w/o pulling the computer apart. I'm going to use it as a file server for my house and I've got a 160G hard drive to put in it. It only recognizes 8G of the drive. Do I need a special card for this drive or am I doing something wrong during the FC2 install? Maybe a bios upgrade? > > If its a driver card what information do I need to have to get the right one? It's a 160G ATA 100 drive. Slow but cheep. > > If it's bios - I haven't upgraded a bios for a long time will I need to install windows to do this (I don't remember seeing a bios upgrade for Linux but again that was awhile ago). Well, gee. PIIs are pretty long in the tooth. It may be that it won't grock anything bigger than 8GB. First, see if the BIOS supports LBA mode. If it does, then set it and see if it recognizes the drive properly. If it doesn't, then see if there's a "user specified" setting where you can put in the cylinders, heads and sectors. Remember that old BIOS' often couldn't handle >8GB because of the way they stored the CHS values. You should calculate the number of blocks on the drive (cylinders * heads * sectors), then bugger the CHS values you feed the BIOS. Most often the BIOS is limited to 1024 cylinders so you have to tell it 255 heads, then divide the total number of blocks by 261120 (1024 * 255), and use that value for the sector count. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Good luck. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Tue Jun 7 20:58:32 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:58:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: <42A5F213.80503@vitalstream.com> References: <42A5F213.80503@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <35492.207.173.117.242.1118177912.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> Ok... let's get past the AACKK!!! Why would you poison your linux box >> with that!?? Lol >> >> Is there a GOOD step by step tutorial on how to use the frontpage >> extensions on the server side anywhere? I have them loaded, I just >> don't know how to use them and make it available for my websites. > > Oh, GOD! Frontpage with Apache is a farking nightmare, Travis. We > used to offer it and gave it up as a real management nightmare. I'd > have to go back and look at my archives to give you details, but I do > recall that each user's directory has to have the FP executables in it. > Doing this on a virtualhost system can be horrific. > > Man, if I could ever dissuade you from even offering such an awful > abomination, I'd do it. Microsoft doesn't even support it anymore. > > There are literally hundreds of HTML generators out there that only need > an FTP upload to make them live and they'll work on IE, Apache or any > other webserver out there. Do NOT get into this black hole. Trust me! > Treat it like a hotel fire...stay low and just get the hell outathere! Come on Rick, quit beating around the bush and tell us what you REALLY think. 8^} Seriously, I have a client on which their ISP installed Frontpage extensions. After we decided to upgrade their server, they decided not to use Frontpage anymore, it was a nightmare just getting all that garbage OFF the system. . . Karl > >> >> Thanks, >> Travis >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Warning: You are logged into reality as the root user... - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From gerrynix at yahoo.com Tue Jun 7 21:42:05 2005 From: gerrynix at yahoo.com (gerrynix) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: <35492.207.173.117.242.1118177912.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <20050607214205.36791.qmail@web51904.mail.yahoo.com> > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> Ok... let's get past the AACKK!!! Why would you poison your linux box > >> with that!?? Lol > >> > >> Is there a GOOD step by step tutorial on how to use the frontpage > >> extensions on the server side anywhere? I have them loaded, I just > >> don't know how to use them and make it available for my websites. > > > > Oh, GOD! Frontpage with Apache is a farking nightmare, Travis. We > > used to offer it and gave it up as a real management nightmare. I'd > > have to go back and look at my archives to give you details, but I do > > recall that each user's directory has to have the FP executables in it. > > Doing this on a virtualhost system can be horrific. > > > > Man, if I could ever dissuade you from even offering such an awful > > abomination, I'd do it. Microsoft doesn't even support it anymore. > > > > There are literally hundreds of HTML generators out there that only need > > an FTP upload to make them live and they'll work on IE, Apache or any > > other webserver out there. Do NOT get into this black hole. Trust me! > > Treat it like a hotel fire...stay low and just get the hell outathere! > > Come on Rick, quit beating around the bush and tell us what you REALLY > think. 8^} > > Seriously, I have a client on which their ISP installed Frontpage > extensions. After we decided to upgrade their server, they decided not to > use Frontpage anymore, it was a nightmare just getting all that garbage > OFF the system. . . > > Karl On the other hand, if you or your client wants to use FrontPage to create web pages and publish them to any web host without "Extentions" it's not a prob. FrontPage has the (internal) option to publish with ftp. I have a couple of clients who do just that. All the server Extentions really provides is support for some "cute" things MS decided to put in (what they call web components), not to mention the ability to edit pages residing on the server, directly. Otherwise FP is a formidable WYSIWYG HTML editor w/o using the "MS web components" b-s. BSD has must have good support for Extentions however, Yahoo! and SBC virtual hosting is mostly on BSD and FrontPage support is an included option on all plans. -- Nix > >> Thanks, > >> Travis > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Redhat-install-list mailing list > >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > >> Subject: unsubscribe > >> > > > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > > - - > > - Warning: You are logged into reality as the root user... - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 7 22:03:50 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:03:50 -0700 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: <35492.207.173.117.242.1118177912.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <42A5F213.80503@vitalstream.com> <35492.207.173.117.242.1118177912.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <42A619C6.9080906@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>Ok... let's get past the AACKK!!! Why would you poison your linux box >>>with that!?? Lol >>> >>>Is there a GOOD step by step tutorial on how to use the frontpage >>>extensions on the server side anywhere? I have them loaded, I just >>>don't know how to use them and make it available for my websites. >> >>Oh, GOD! Frontpage with Apache is a farking nightmare, Travis. We >>used to offer it and gave it up as a real management nightmare. I'd >>have to go back and look at my archives to give you details, but I do >>recall that each user's directory has to have the FP executables in it. >>Doing this on a virtualhost system can be horrific. >> >>Man, if I could ever dissuade you from even offering such an awful >>abomination, I'd do it. Microsoft doesn't even support it anymore. >> >>There are literally hundreds of HTML generators out there that only need >>an FTP upload to make them live and they'll work on IE, Apache or any >>other webserver out there. Do NOT get into this black hole. Trust me! >>Treat it like a hotel fire...stay low and just get the hell outathere! > > > Come on Rick, quit beating around the bush and tell us what you REALLY > think. 8^} You know me, Karl...I'm as subtle as getting whacked by a 2 x 4 between the eyes. ;-) > Seriously, I have a client on which their ISP installed Frontpage > extensions. After we decided to upgrade their server, they decided not to > use Frontpage anymore, it was a nightmare just getting all that garbage > OFF the system. . . Yup. It's not clearly documented how to do (I figured it out, but it took a while) it and doing it on a machine with virtualhost entries is bloody awful--especially when we did it on a four-way hardware load-balanced system. I do recall that we had to write a bunch of very odd Perl modules and bugger the Apache 1.x source to make it work. Add modperl to the mix and I damned near tore my hair out. And you had to do it every time a new release of Apache came out. The last straw was when Apache 2.x came out. I had to spend a lot of time re-engineering what needed to be patched and where. We finally looked at the revenue stream that we got from the Apache/Unix/Frontpage and decided to kill that product. We had a parallel web service based on IIS (gaaaack!), so we told folk that if they wanted FP, they had to use our IIS-based service. Many people hated us for that (you can't keep an IIS system running for more than a week without a reboot). Our Unix servers have been up for, oh, more than a year. Here's one of the four servers: [root at uvc-01-0004-01 root]# uptime 2:59pm up 392 days, 21:20, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 1.71, 2.07 (Oh, and that's on a fully-patched Fedora Core 1 system) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Memory is the second thing to go, but I can't remember the first! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Jun 7 22:28:50 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:28:50 -0700 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:14 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: OT: Apache and frontpage > > There are literally hundreds of HTML generators out there that only need > an FTP upload to make them live and they'll work on IE, Apache or any > other webserver out there. Do NOT get into this black hole. Trust me! > Treat it like a hotel fire...stay low and just get the hell outathere! > > > > > Thanks, > > Travis I'm game for that... because right now this is looking like a royal pain. On apache 2.0.52, I got the extensions loaded, installed... but then it wouldn't let me login. The kicker was when I couldn't find much for "how-to's"; just some cryptic information. All I would need is a web page editor that is WYSWYG, would be great if it would support some of the "bot" stuff FP does (not the same, but same end result is what I mean). Things like thumbnails, etc. This is for my wife to update our personal web pages. She wants simple and easy to use. Something that frontpage basically gave her. I'll take a look at the FTP option, because I don't think we are using any of the bots at the moment. Oh.. gotta be free too. I'm running this on my own box, so I'm not limited in any way. What would be some good recommendations? From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Jun 7 23:16:00 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:16:00 -0700 Subject: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:03 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Installation RH9.0 on DELL PowerEdge 2200 > > Uher, Lubomir wrote: > > Hello, > > > > many thanks for your response. > > > > I can boot only from floppy drive, because without driver RH9.0 doesn't > > recognize SCSI controller on DELL PC. > > > > I mean, that CDROM drive isn't still working. System was recognized only > > ADAPTEC SCSI controller, but no SCSI CDROM drive. I supposed, that > system > > found CDROM drive automatically. > > > > Could you give some direction for this issue ? > > When the BIOS comes up on the machine, does the CD show up on the IDE > controller or the SCSI controller? Does the BIOS even see the Adaptec? > > The RH9 CDs should absolutely recognize any Adaptec SCSI controller with > the 78xx or 79xx chipset. The floppy should also, if you used the > bootdisk.img file to create it. Beyond that, if the CDROM drive is functioning properly, the RH9.0 CD should at least ATTEMPT to boot. You shouldn't need to use the floppy. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 8 00:06:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:06:08 -0700 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42A63670.2040108@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:14 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: OT: Apache and frontpage >> >>There are literally hundreds of HTML generators out there that only > > need > >>an FTP upload to make them live and they'll work on IE, Apache or any >>other webserver out there. Do NOT get into this black hole. Trust > > me! > >>Treat it like a hotel fire...stay low and just get the hell outathere! >> >> >>>Thanks, >>>Travis > > > I'm game for that... because right now this is looking like a royal > pain. On apache 2.0.52, I got the extensions loaded, installed... but > then it wouldn't let me login. The kicker was when I couldn't find much > for "how-to's"; just some cryptic information. > > All I would need is a web page editor that is WYSWYG, would be great if > it would support some of the "bot" stuff FP does (not the same, but same > end result is what I mean). Things like thumbnails, etc. > > This is for my wife to update our personal web pages. She wants simple > and easy to use. Something that frontpage basically gave her. I'll > take a look at the FTP option, because I don't think we are using any of > the bots at the moment. > > Oh.. gotta be free too. I'm running this on my own box, so I'm not > limited in any way. > > What would be some good recommendations? Have you looked at Quanta+? Comes with Fedora. Works pretty well. Of course, Google would have LOTS more! :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do you know where _your_ towel is? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Jun 8 00:39:12 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 18:39:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Large Hard Drive install problems In-Reply-To: <42A60429.8040406@vitalstream.com> References: <5AADC64B5181E843B01590385C25D8B51D5AE3@its-exmail2.its.corp.gwl.com> <42A60429.8040406@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mugleston, Brad wrote: > > I was given a PII computer - generic brand, can't read who made the board > > w/o pulling the computer apart. I'm going to use it as a file server for my > > house and I've got a 160G hard drive to put in it. It only recognizes 8G of > > the drive. Do I need a special card for this drive or am I doing something > > wrong during the FC2 install? Maybe a bios upgrade? > > > > If its a driver card what information do I need to have to get the right > > one? It's a 160G ATA 100 drive. Slow but cheep. > > > > If it's bios - I haven't upgraded a bios for a long time will I need to > > install windows to do this (I don't remember seeing a bios upgrade for Linux > > but again that was awhile ago). > > Well, gee. PIIs are pretty long in the tooth. It may be that it won't > grock anything bigger than 8GB. > > First, see if the BIOS supports LBA mode. If it does, then set it and > see if it recognizes the drive properly. If it doesn't, then see if > there's a "user specified" setting where you can put in the cylinders, > heads and sectors. Remember that old BIOS' often couldn't handle >8GB > because of the way they stored the CHS values. You should calculate > the number of blocks on the drive (cylinders * heads * sectors), then > bugger the CHS values you feed the BIOS. Most often the BIOS is limited > to 1024 cylinders so you have to tell it 255 heads, then divide the > total number of blocks by 261120 (1024 * 255), and use that value for > the sector count. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. > > Good luck. Thanks, I probably need it. Yes the BIOS handles LBA mode but thats when it stopped at 8G (I just let it automatically discover it). So how many blocks do I need for 160G? I think thats what your suggesting I do. Brad > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - > - I'm in BIG trouble! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 8 01:03:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:03:35 -0700 Subject: Large Hard Drive install problems In-Reply-To: References: <5AADC64B5181E843B01590385C25D8B51D5AE3@its-exmail2.its.corp.gwl.com> <42A60429.8040406@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42A643E7.2020206@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > understand binary and those that don't. > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>Mugleston, Brad wrote: >> >>>I was given a PII computer - generic brand, can't read who made the board >>>w/o pulling the computer apart. I'm going to use it as a file server for my >>>house and I've got a 160G hard drive to put in it. It only recognizes 8G of >>>the drive. Do I need a special card for this drive or am I doing something >>>wrong during the FC2 install? Maybe a bios upgrade? >>> >>>If its a driver card what information do I need to have to get the right >>>one? It's a 160G ATA 100 drive. Slow but cheep. >>> >>>If it's bios - I haven't upgraded a bios for a long time will I need to >>>install windows to do this (I don't remember seeing a bios upgrade for Linux >>>but again that was awhile ago). >> >>Well, gee. PIIs are pretty long in the tooth. It may be that it won't >>grock anything bigger than 8GB. >> >>First, see if the BIOS supports LBA mode. If it does, then set it and >>see if it recognizes the drive properly. If it doesn't, then see if >>there's a "user specified" setting where you can put in the cylinders, >>heads and sectors. Remember that old BIOS' often couldn't handle >8GB >>because of the way they stored the CHS values. You should calculate >>the number of blocks on the drive (cylinders * heads * sectors), then >>bugger the CHS values you feed the BIOS. Most often the BIOS is limited >>to 1024 cylinders so you have to tell it 255 heads, then divide the >>total number of blocks by 261120 (1024 * 255), and use that value for >>the sector count. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. >> >>Good luck. > > > Thanks, I probably need it. Yes the BIOS handles LBA mode but > thats when it stopped at 8G (I just let it automatically discover > it). So how many blocks do I need for 160G? I think thats what > your suggesting I do. Yup. Blocks = cylinders * heads * sectors. You should be able to glom that off the drive's label. If not, look it up on the manufacturer's website. Then go into "manual" mode and set the cylinder count to 1024, heads to 255 and the sectors to the value given by sectors = blocks/261120 See if that'll do it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Treat each day as if it's your last...a lot of crying and whining - - usually gets you what you want! -- Sam Sledge - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brinda_ganesh at yahoo.com Wed Jun 8 02:25:11 2005 From: brinda_ganesh at yahoo.com (Brinda Ganesh) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 03:25:11 +0100 (BST) Subject: regd ypserv.securenets Message-ID: <20050608022511.22450.qmail@web53402.mail.yahoo.com> Hi I want to setup a rule in a yp securenets that will list specific machines in the domain which can avail of the nis maps. could someone please tell me how I could setup such a rule? Thanks Brinda ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Jun 8 06:26:19 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 00:26:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Large Hard Drive install problems In-Reply-To: <42A643E7.2020206@vitalstream.com> References: <5AADC64B5181E843B01590385C25D8B51D5AE3@its-exmail2.its.corp.gwl.com> <42A60429.8040406@vitalstream.com> <42A643E7.2020206@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > > Brad Mugleston, KI0OT > > > > There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that > > understand binary and those that don't. > > > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > > > Mugleston, Brad wrote: > > > > > > > I was given a PII computer - generic brand, can't read who made the > > > > board > > > > w/o pulling the computer apart. I'm going to use it as a file server > > > > for my > > > > house and I've got a 160G hard drive to put in it. It only recognizes > > > > 8G of > > > > the drive. Do I need a special card for this drive or am I doing > > > > something > > > > wrong during the FC2 install? Maybe a bios upgrade? > > > > > > > > If its a driver card what information do I need to have to get the right > > > > one? It's a 160G ATA 100 drive. Slow but cheep. > > > > > > > > If it's bios - I haven't upgraded a bios for a long time will I need to > > > > install windows to do this (I don't remember seeing a bios upgrade for > > > > Linux > > > > but again that was awhile ago). > > > > > > Well, gee. PIIs are pretty long in the tooth. It may be that it won't > > > grock anything bigger than 8GB. > > > > > > First, see if the BIOS supports LBA mode. If it does, then set it and > > > see if it recognizes the drive properly. If it doesn't, then see if > > > there's a "user specified" setting where you can put in the cylinders, > > > heads and sectors. Remember that old BIOS' often couldn't handle >8GB > > > because of the way they stored the CHS values. You should calculate > > > the number of blocks on the drive (cylinders * heads * sectors), then > > > bugger the CHS values you feed the BIOS. Most often the BIOS is limited > > > to 1024 cylinders so you have to tell it 255 heads, then divide the > > > total number of blocks by 261120 (1024 * 255), and use that value for > > > the sector count. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > Thanks, I probably need it. Yes the BIOS handles LBA mode but > > thats when it stopped at 8G (I just let it automatically discover > > it). So how many blocks do I need for 160G? I think thats what > > your suggesting I do. > > Yup. Blocks = cylinders * heads * sectors. You should be able to glom > that off the drive's label. If not, look it up on the manufacturer's > website. Then go into "manual" mode and set the cylinder count to 1024, > heads to 255 and the sectors to the value given by > > sectors = blocks/261120 > See if that'll do it. Thanks, just got back from seing Hitch hikers Guide --- good show but I think I'll try this tomorrow. Brad From akelly at transparency.org Wed Jun 8 07:34:07 2005 From: akelly at transparency.org (Andrew Kelly) Date: 08 Jun 2005 09:34:07 +0200 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: <42A619C6.9080906@vitalstream.com> References: <42A5F213.80503@vitalstream.com> <35492.207.173.117.242.1118177912.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42A619C6.9080906@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1118216046.3568.26.camel@hermes.at.home> On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 00:03, Rick Stevens wrote: > [root at uvc-01-0004-01 root]# uptime > 2:59pm up 392 days, 21:20, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 1.71, 2.07 > > (Oh, and that's on a fully-patched Fedora Core 1 system) Whoa! Did I read that right? You have FC boxes in commercial production?! Have I perhaps turned my back on the Hat unjustifiably? Andy From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 8 14:35:03 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:35:03 -0500 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: <1118216046.3568.26.camel@hermes.at.home> References: <42A5F213.80503@vitalstream.com> <35492.207.173.117.242.1118177912.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42A619C6.9080906@vitalstream.com> <1118216046.3568.26.camel@hermes.at.home> Message-ID: <20050608143503.GB32211@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:34:07AM +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 00:03, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > > [root at uvc-01-0004-01 root]# uptime > > 2:59pm up 392 days, 21:20, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 1.71, 2.07 > > > > (Oh, and that's on a fully-patched Fedora Core 1 system) > > Whoa! > Did I read that right? You have FC boxes in commercial production?! > > Have I perhaps turned my back on the Hat unjustifiably? > > > Andy I have two clients with mail/web servers running FC1 and FC3. My own (admittedly small-time) system is a mix of FC1/2/3 running my firewall, web/mail server, file server, and workstation. But all that's small potatoes compared to what Rick's running. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 8 17:32:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:32:35 -0700 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage In-Reply-To: <1118216046.3568.26.camel@hermes.at.home> References: <42A5F213.80503@vitalstream.com> <35492.207.173.117.242.1118177912.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42A619C6.9080906@vitalstream.com> <1118216046.3568.26.camel@hermes.at.home> Message-ID: <42A72BB3.4060706@vitalstream.com> Andrew Kelly wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 00:03, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>[root at uvc-01-0004-01 root]# uptime >> 2:59pm up 392 days, 21:20, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 1.71, 2.07 >> >>(Oh, and that's on a fully-patched Fedora Core 1 system) > > > Whoa! > Did I read that right? You have FC boxes in commercial production?! > > Have I perhaps turned my back on the Hat unjustifiably? Subjective matter of opinion, Andrew. In my opinion, I'd say so. Caveat emptor, however. No RH support on FC...just the mailing lists. I've been doing this for 30 years, however, so it takes a lot to scare me! I can usually dig my way out. :-) We have FC1, FC3 and FC3 boxes in production. I'm wringing out FC4p2 boxes as I write (and they seem OK for the most part). When FC4 is released next week, I'll run tests on those also, and if they hold up, we'll use it as well. FC, with a few minor glitches, works quite well. Remember that FC1 WOULD have been RH10 had they not changed direction, and RHEL4 is based on FC2. All of my personal boxes save one (a Mac Mini) are running FC3 (including my Opteron), and that includes the ones at the office. We also have Centos (whitebox version of RHEL3) in production along with FreeBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, HPUX and IRIX. As far as Unixen go, we're pretty agnostic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "How does that damned three seashell thing work?" - - - Sylvester Stallone, "Demolition Man" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rajmannar at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 03:44:14 2005 From: rajmannar at yahoo.com (Raj Mannar) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rebooting problem while installing Message-ID: <20050609034414.1900.qmail@web31014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I am installing RH4 (32-bit x86) on a PC (compaq presario 5284). When i boot from the first CD(install CD): It boots fine with the messages and shows the boot prompt: Loading vmlinuz ..... Loading initrd.img ... boot: When i type linux at the boot prompt , it simply reboots all over again to the same boot: prompt. I tried different options with linux (noprobe, prompt...) but to no avail. Thanks for any help. -raj __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html From bkrueger at avaya.com Thu Jun 9 13:01:25 2005 From: bkrueger at avaya.com (Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob)) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:01:25 -0400 Subject: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 Message-ID: <16F9BDD39536704DA7BFB3172BF191720453DF48@nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com> Help! assistance needed ASAP, I am looking to install RH 8.0 on an IBM x-Series 346 server. The 346 did not come out until after RH 8 was not supported so my problem is that I need to find which are the correct drivers to use for the server, the RAID card used is the ServeRaid 7K, P4 Xeon processor, the IBM hard disk used is an IBM PN FRU 90P1309. 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Even during the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but everytime I needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the cdreader did always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear sounds like "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and then I hear a big "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no media in the drive" appears. I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro with the 3 cds I burned in Windows. But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must be something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I really do not know what to do. I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by myself, with Linux. My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. I really hope that somebody can finally help me. Thank You All very much! Roberto, Italy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Horton at acntv.com Thu Jun 9 14:36:55 2005 From: Michael.Horton at acntv.com (Michael Horton) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:36:55 -0400 Subject: That Hateful Cddrive! In-Reply-To: <4202030C00F706E1@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added bypostmaster@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) References: <4202030C00F706E1@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added bypostmaster@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) Message-ID: <42A85407.3040306@acntv.com> sometimes the application must be closed and restarted sometimes the pc must be rebooted Roberto wrote: > Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really > desperate! > > In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I > write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! > I tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both > the cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! > > I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the > cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even > during the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but > everytime I needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the > cdreader did always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear > sounds like "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and > then I hear a big "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no > media in the drive" appears. > > I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro > with the 3 cds I burned in Windows. > > But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with > Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must > be something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. > > But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I > really do not know what to do. > > I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by > myself, with Linux. > > My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. > > I really hope that somebody can finally help me. > > Thank You All very much! > > > > Roberto, Italy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe This message originates from Jewelry Television (TM) . The message and any file transmitted with it is intended to be privileged and confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. Any disclosure, distribution, copying or use of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient, regardless of address or routing, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender by immediate reply and delete the original message. Personal messages express views solely of the sender and are not attributable to Jewelry Television (TM). From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Jun 9 15:28:59 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:28:59 -0500 Subject: That Hateful Cddrive! In-Reply-To: <4202030C00F706E1@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> References: <4202030C00F706E1@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> Message-ID: <20050609152859.GB14245@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:58:37PM +0200, Roberto wrote: > Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really > desperate! > > In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I > write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! I > tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both the > cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! > > I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the > cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even during > the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but everytime I > needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the cdreader did > always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear sounds like > "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and then I hear a big > "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no media in the drive" > appears. > > I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro with > the 3 cds I burned in Windows. > > But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with > Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must be > something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. > > But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I > really do not know what to do. > > I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by > myself, with Linux. > > My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. > > I really hope that somebody can finally help me. > > Thank You All very much! > > > > Roberto, Italy Have a look at http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds Let us know how far that gets you. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Jun 9 15:36:05 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:36:05 -0500 Subject: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 In-Reply-To: <16F9BDD39536704DA7BFB3172BF191720453DF48@nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com> References: <16F9BDD39536704DA7BFB3172BF191720453DF48@nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com> Message-ID: <20050609153605.GB16895@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:01:25AM -0400, Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob) wrote: > Help! assistance needed ASAP, > > I am looking to install RH 8.0 on an IBM x-Series 346 server. The 346 > did not come out until after RH 8 was not supported so my problem is > that I need to find which are the correct drivers to use for the server, > the RAID card used is the ServeRaid 7K, P4 Xeon processor, the IBM hard > disk used is an IBM PN FRU 90P1309. > > > > Any help for finding and using the correct drivers in order to load and > run RH 8 on this server would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Bob Is there some reason why you must use RH 8.0? It has been end-of-lifed for some time, and so should not be considered secure by any stretch of the imagination. Any reason you can't install Fedora Core 2 or 3? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From robgenna at tiscali.it Thu Jun 9 16:15:12 2005 From: robgenna at tiscali.it (Roberto) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:15:12 +0200 Subject: R: That Hateful Cddrive! In-Reply-To: <20050609152859.GB14245@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4202030C00F75E64@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) I have always done what is said in that website! I use Nero in Windows to burn images! It should be something else Roberto,Italy -----Messaggio originale----- Da: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Bob McClure Jr Inviato: gioved? 9 giugno 2005 17.29 A: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Oggetto: Re: That Hateful Cddrive! On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:58:37PM +0200, Roberto wrote: > Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really > desperate! > > In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I > write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! I > tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both the > cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! > > I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the > cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even during > the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but everytime I > needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the cdreader did > always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear sounds like > "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and then I hear a big > "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no media in the drive" > appears. > > I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro with > the 3 cds I burned in Windows. > > But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with > Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must be > something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. > > But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I > really do not know what to do. > > I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by > myself, with Linux. > > My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. > > I really hope that somebody can finally help me. > > Thank You All very much! > > > > Roberto, Italy Have a look at http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds Let us know how far that gets you. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From john.j.poole at usa-spaceops.com Thu Jun 9 16:25:00 2005 From: john.j.poole at usa-spaceops.com (Poole, John J) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:25:00 -0400 Subject: That Hateful Cddrive! Message-ID: <2CE66A1ABBED8C4B85DFF5E0860987A32CBA7B@usaflcms03.usa-spaceops.ksc.nasa.gov> Roberto, Does linux mediacheck show errors? I have also heard the master/slave drive setting will cause problems if not configures correctly. John -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:01 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 Send Redhat-install-list mailing list submissions to redhat-install-list at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at redhat-install-list-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Redhat-install-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: OT: Apache and frontpage (Rick Stevens) 2. Rebooting problem while installing (Raj Mannar) 3. Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 (Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob)) 4. linux and java (Tech Guy) 5. That Hateful Cddrive! (Roberto) 6. Re: That Hateful Cddrive! (Michael Horton) 7. Re: That Hateful Cddrive! (Bob McClure Jr) 8. Re: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 (Bob McClure Jr) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:32:35 -0700 From: Rick Stevens Subject: Re: OT: Apache and frontpage To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <42A72BB3.4060706 at vitalstream.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Andrew Kelly wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 00:03, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>[root at uvc-01-0004-01 root]# uptime >> 2:59pm up 392 days, 21:20, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 1.71, 2.07 >> >>(Oh, and that's on a fully-patched Fedora Core 1 system) > > > Whoa! > Did I read that right? You have FC boxes in commercial production?! > > Have I perhaps turned my back on the Hat unjustifiably? Subjective matter of opinion, Andrew. In my opinion, I'd say so. Caveat emptor, however. No RH support on FC...just the mailing lists. I've been doing this for 30 years, however, so it takes a lot to scare me! I can usually dig my way out. :-) We have FC1, FC3 and FC3 boxes in production. I'm wringing out FC4p2 boxes as I write (and they seem OK for the most part). When FC4 is released next week, I'll run tests on those also, and if they hold up, we'll use it as well. FC, with a few minor glitches, works quite well. Remember that FC1 WOULD have been RH10 had they not changed direction, and RHEL4 is based on FC2. All of my personal boxes save one (a Mac Mini) are running FC3 (including my Opteron), and that includes the ones at the office. We also have Centos (whitebox version of RHEL3) in production along with FreeBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, HPUX and IRIX. As far as Unixen go, we're pretty agnostic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "How does that damned three seashell thing work?" - - - Sylvester Stallone, "Demolition Man" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Raj Mannar Subject: Rebooting problem while installing To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <20050609034414.1900.qmail at web31014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, I am installing RH4 (32-bit x86) on a PC (compaq presario 5284). When i boot from the first CD(install CD): It boots fine with the messages and shows the boot prompt: Loading vmlinuz ..... Loading initrd.img ... boot: When i type linux at the boot prompt , it simply reboots all over again to the same boot: prompt. I tried different options with linux (noprobe, prompt...) but to no avail. Thanks for any help. -raj __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:01:25 -0400 From: "Krueger, Robert Paul \(Bob\)" Subject: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 To: Message-ID: <16F9BDD39536704DA7BFB3172BF191720453DF48 at nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Help! assistance needed ASAP, I am looking to install RH 8.0 on an IBM x-Series 346 server. The 346 did not come out until after RH 8 was not supported so my problem is that I need to find which are the correct drivers to use for the server, the RAID card used is the ServeRaid 7K, P4 Xeon processor, the IBM hard disk used is an IBM PN FRU 90P1309. Any help for finding and using the correct drivers in order to load and run RH 8 on this server would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050609/163b486d/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: 9 Jun 2005 13:50:55 -0000 From: "Tech Guy" Subject: linux and java To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <20050609135055.14191.qmail at webmail50.rediffmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" HI, I have a question regarding memory management particularly with java. I understand that linux threads are implemented as cloned processes and each thread has its own process and thus "ps" shows up multiple number of processess for a single JVM. In my scenario I have multiple Weblogic instances running , say around 3 running its own JVM. So when I give ps command and grep for java , I see more than 80 java processes. my free memory shows up as some 10 MB which is a normal and system is not out of memory. But I want to know is there any way to know when the system is really running out of memory. any suggestions, tips and links are appreciated Thanks, TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050609/fe701736/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:58:37 +0200 From: "Roberto" Subject: That Hateful Cddrive! To: "'Getting started with Red Hat Linux'" Message-ID: <4202030C00F706E1 at mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster at mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really desperate! In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! I tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both the cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even during the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but everytime I needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the cdreader did always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear sounds like "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and then I hear a big "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no media in the drive" appears. I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro with the 3 cds I burned in Windows. But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must be something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I really do not know what to do. I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by myself, with Linux. My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. I really hope that somebody can finally help me. Thank You All very much! Roberto, Italy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050609/d9497d98/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:36:55 -0400 From: "Michael Horton" Subject: Re: That Hateful Cddrive! To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Message-ID: <42A85407.3040306 at acntv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1" sometimes the application must be closed and restarted sometimes the pc must be rebooted Roberto wrote: > Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really > desperate! > > In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I > write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! > I tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both > the cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! > > I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the > cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even > during the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but > everytime I needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the > cdreader did always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear > sounds like "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and > then I hear a big "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no > media in the drive" appears. > > I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro > with the 3 cds I burned in Windows. > > But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with > Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must > be something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. > > But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I > really do not know what to do. > > I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by > myself, with Linux. > > My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. > > I really hope that somebody can finally help me. > > Thank You All very much! > > > > Roberto, Italy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe This message originates from Jewelry Television (TM) . The message and any file transmitted with it is intended to be privileged and confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. Any disclosure, distribution, copying or use of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient, regardless of address or routing, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender by immediate reply and delete the original message. Personal messages express views solely of the sender and are not attributable to Jewelry Television (TM). ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:28:59 -0500 From: Bob McClure Jr Subject: Re: That Hateful Cddrive! To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <20050609152859.GB14245 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:58:37PM +0200, Roberto wrote: > Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really > desperate! > > In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I > write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! I > tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both the > cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! > > I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the > cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even during > the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but everytime I > needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the cdreader did > always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear sounds like > "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and then I hear a big > "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no media in the drive" > appears. > > I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro with > the 3 cds I burned in Windows. > > But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with > Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must be > something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. > > But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I > really do not know what to do. > > I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by > myself, with Linux. > > My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. > > I really hope that somebody can finally help me. > > Thank You All very much! > > > > Roberto, Italy Have a look at http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds Let us know how far that gets you. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:36:05 -0500 From: Bob McClure Jr Subject: Re: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <20050609153605.GB16895 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:01:25AM -0400, Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob) wrote: > Help! assistance needed ASAP, > > I am looking to install RH 8.0 on an IBM x-Series 346 server. The 346 > did not come out until after RH 8 was not supported so my problem is > that I need to find which are the correct drivers to use for the server, > the RAID card used is the ServeRaid 7K, P4 Xeon processor, the IBM hard > disk used is an IBM PN FRU 90P1309. > > > > Any help for finding and using the correct drivers in order to load and > run RH 8 on this server would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Bob Is there some reason why you must use RH 8.0? It has been end-of-lifed for some time, and so should not be considered secure by any stretch of the imagination. Any reason you can't install Fedora Core 2 or 3? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list End of Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 ************************************************** From robgenna at tiscali.it Thu Jun 9 16:29:42 2005 From: robgenna at tiscali.it (Roberto) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:29:42 +0200 Subject: R: That Hateful Cddrive! In-Reply-To: <2CE66A1ABBED8C4B85DFF5E0860987A32CBA7B@usaflcms03.usa-spaceops.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <4202035700F761AB@mail-relay-4.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster@mail-relay-4.tiscali.it) Yes, the mediacheck says that it is not possible to check the media in the drive! What should I do to configure master/slave? Thank You Roberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Poole, John J Inviato: gioved? 9 giugno 2005 18.25 A: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Oggetto: That Hateful Cddrive! Roberto, Does linux mediacheck show errors? I have also heard the master/slave drive setting will cause problems if not configures correctly. John -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:01 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 Send Redhat-install-list mailing list submissions to redhat-install-list at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at redhat-install-list-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Redhat-install-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: OT: Apache and frontpage (Rick Stevens) 2. Rebooting problem while installing (Raj Mannar) 3. Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 (Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob)) 4. linux and java (Tech Guy) 5. That Hateful Cddrive! (Roberto) 6. Re: That Hateful Cddrive! (Michael Horton) 7. Re: That Hateful Cddrive! (Bob McClure Jr) 8. Re: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 (Bob McClure Jr) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:32:35 -0700 From: Rick Stevens Subject: Re: OT: Apache and frontpage To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <42A72BB3.4060706 at vitalstream.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Andrew Kelly wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 00:03, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>[root at uvc-01-0004-01 root]# uptime >> 2:59pm up 392 days, 21:20, 1 user, load average: 0.99, 1.71, 2.07 >> >>(Oh, and that's on a fully-patched Fedora Core 1 system) > > > Whoa! > Did I read that right? You have FC boxes in commercial production?! > > Have I perhaps turned my back on the Hat unjustifiably? Subjective matter of opinion, Andrew. In my opinion, I'd say so. Caveat emptor, however. No RH support on FC...just the mailing lists. I've been doing this for 30 years, however, so it takes a lot to scare me! I can usually dig my way out. :-) We have FC1, FC3 and FC3 boxes in production. I'm wringing out FC4p2 boxes as I write (and they seem OK for the most part). When FC4 is released next week, I'll run tests on those also, and if they hold up, we'll use it as well. FC, with a few minor glitches, works quite well. Remember that FC1 WOULD have been RH10 had they not changed direction, and RHEL4 is based on FC2. All of my personal boxes save one (a Mac Mini) are running FC3 (including my Opteron), and that includes the ones at the office. We also have Centos (whitebox version of RHEL3) in production along with FreeBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, HPUX and IRIX. As far as Unixen go, we're pretty agnostic. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "How does that damned three seashell thing work?" - - - Sylvester Stallone, "Demolition Man" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Raj Mannar Subject: Rebooting problem while installing To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <20050609034414.1900.qmail at web31014.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, I am installing RH4 (32-bit x86) on a PC (compaq presario 5284). When i boot from the first CD(install CD): It boots fine with the messages and shows the boot prompt: Loading vmlinuz ..... Loading initrd.img ... boot: When i type linux at the boot prompt , it simply reboots all over again to the same boot: prompt. I tried different options with linux (noprobe, prompt...) but to no avail. Thanks for any help. -raj __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:01:25 -0400 From: "Krueger, Robert Paul \(Bob\)" Subject: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 To: Message-ID: <16F9BDD39536704DA7BFB3172BF191720453DF48 at nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Help! assistance needed ASAP, I am looking to install RH 8.0 on an IBM x-Series 346 server. The 346 did not come out until after RH 8 was not supported so my problem is that I need to find which are the correct drivers to use for the server, the RAID card used is the ServeRaid 7K, P4 Xeon processor, the IBM hard disk used is an IBM PN FRU 90P1309. Any help for finding and using the correct drivers in order to load and run RH 8 on this server would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050609/163 b486d/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: 9 Jun 2005 13:50:55 -0000 From: "Tech Guy" Subject: linux and java To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <20050609135055.14191.qmail at webmail50.rediffmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" HI, I have a question regarding memory management particularly with java. I understand that linux threads are implemented as cloned processes and each thread has its own process and thus "ps" shows up multiple number of processess for a single JVM. In my scenario I have multiple Weblogic instances running , say around 3 running its own JVM. So when I give ps command and grep for java , I see more than 80 java processes. my free memory shows up as some 10 MB which is a normal and system is not out of memory. But I want to know is there any way to know when the system is really running out of memory. any suggestions, tips and links are appreciated Thanks, TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050609/fe7 01736/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:58:37 +0200 From: "Roberto" Subject: That Hateful Cddrive! To: "'Getting started with Red Hat Linux'" Message-ID: <4202030C00F706E1 at mail-relay-1.tiscali.it> (added by postmaster at mail-relay-1.tiscali.it) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really desperate! In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! I tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both the cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even during the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but everytime I needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the cdreader did always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear sounds like "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and then I hear a big "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no media in the drive" appears. I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro with the 3 cds I burned in Windows. But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must be something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I really do not know what to do. I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by myself, with Linux. My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. I really hope that somebody can finally help me. Thank You All very much! Roberto, Italy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050609/d94 97d98/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:36:55 -0400 From: "Michael Horton" Subject: Re: That Hateful Cddrive! To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Message-ID: <42A85407.3040306 at acntv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1" sometimes the application must be closed and restarted sometimes the pc must be rebooted Roberto wrote: > Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really > desperate! > > In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I > write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! > I tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both > the cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! > > I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the > cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even > during the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but > everytime I needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the > cdreader did always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear > sounds like "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and > then I hear a big "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no > media in the drive" appears. > > I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro > with the 3 cds I burned in Windows. > > But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with > Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must > be something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. > > But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I > really do not know what to do. > > I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by > myself, with Linux. > > My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. > > I really hope that somebody can finally help me. > > Thank You All very much! > > > > Roberto, Italy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe This message originates from Jewelry Television (TM) . 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To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <20050609152859.GB14245 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:58:37PM +0200, Roberto wrote: > Hi everybody, I am a Linux user from 2 months, but I am really really > desperate! > > In fact I have a problem with my cd-dvd drive. The problem is that if I > write a cd iso with the drive, I am not able to use that cd with Linux! I > tried to burn it with Windows and Nero, and then with Linux, but both the > cds I got don't work with Linux and are perfect with Windows! > > I discovered this while I first tried to install RedHat Linux with the > cdroms I created with the images downloaded from RedHat Network. Even during > the installation only the first cd didn't give me problems, but everytime I > needed to change it in order to go on with installation, the cdreader did > always the same: while it tries to read the cd I hear sounds like > "woooooom", as it reads the cd at the maximum speed, and then I hear a big > "toc", as it stops reading, and then a message "no media in the drive" > appears. > > I had the same problem while I tried to install the Mandriva LE distro with > the 3 cds I burned in Windows. > > But the strange thing is that all the cds are perfectly readable with > Windows XP! So I cannot think that the drive is damaged, but there must be > something to configure in Linux, even during the installation. > > But what is it?! I tried to disable DMA but nothing changes.... so now I > really do not know what to do. > > I have to say that I can use anyother cd/dvd, that I haven't burnt by > myself, with Linux. > > My PC is a Dell laptop Inspiron 8600c, with a NEC Cd, DVD+RW. > > I really hope that somebody can finally help me. > > Thank You All very much! > > > > Roberto, Italy Have a look at http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds Let us know how far that gets you. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:36:05 -0500 From: Bob McClure Jr Subject: Re: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <20050609153605.GB16895 at bobcat.bobcatos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:01:25AM -0400, Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob) wrote: > Help! assistance needed ASAP, > > I am looking to install RH 8.0 on an IBM x-Series 346 server. The 346 > did not come out until after RH 8 was not supported so my problem is > that I need to find which are the correct drivers to use for the server, > the RAID card used is the ServeRaid 7K, P4 Xeon processor, the IBM hard > disk used is an IBM PN FRU 90P1309. > > > > Any help for finding and using the correct drivers in order to load and > run RH 8 on this server would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Bob Is there some reason why you must use RH 8.0? It has been end-of-lifed for some time, and so should not be considered secure by any stretch of the imagination. Any reason you can't install Fedora Core 2 or 3? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list End of Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8 ************************************************** _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 9 17:03:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:03:31 -0700 Subject: linux and java In-Reply-To: <20050609135055.14191.qmail@webmail50.rediffmail.com> References: <20050609135055.14191.qmail@webmail50.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <42A87663.8070306@vitalstream.com> Tech Guy wrote: > HI, > > I have a question regarding memory management particularly with java. I > understand that linux threads are implemented as cloned processes and > each thread has its own process and thus "ps" shows up multiple number > of processess for a single JVM. > > In my scenario I have multiple Weblogic instances running , say around 3 > running its own JVM. So when I give ps command and grep for java , I see > more than 80 java processes. my free memory shows up as some 10 MB which > is a normal and system is not out of memory. > > But I want to know is there any way to know when the system is really > running out of memory. > > any suggestions, tips and links are appreciated Use the "free" command to see what your memory usage is like. You can also run "vmstat" to watch how the system evolves over time. If you see the system start swapping, you're out of memory. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - You know you've landed gear-up when it takes full power to taxi. - - -- Chuck Yeager - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tpotter at techmarin.com Thu Jun 9 17:37:17 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:37:17 -0700 Subject: vpn server Message-ID: <1118338637.6943.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Greetings, I have an opportunity with a client. They currently use a NT box for file storage and as a vpn server. Some folks work from home, vpn in to the server and bla bla bla. Since NT is no longer an option and W2003 server OS is running about $1500.00 for fifteen users (go bill go!) I was thinking perhaps a linux box could be installed. Trouble is I have no experience using a linux box as a vpn server. I am OK with the samba stuff so I am not concerned about that (well not a lot). Since I have some hardware in my shop I can do testing here but need pointers to get started. My preferred method would be to create a test system in my shop since the final system would be placed in a production environment. Thank for any ideas !! -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com Read My Headers - This IS a linux desktop application From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 9 17:59:24 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:59:24 -0700 Subject: vpn server In-Reply-To: <1118338637.6943.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> References: <1118338637.6943.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: <42A8837C.7050003@vitalstream.com> Ted Potter wrote: > Greetings, > > I have an opportunity with a client. They currently use a NT box for > file storage and as a vpn server. Some folks work from home, vpn in to > the server and bla bla bla. > > Since NT is no longer an option and W2003 server OS is running about > $1500.00 for fifteen users (go bill go!) I was thinking perhaps a linux > box could be installed. > > Trouble is I have no experience using a linux box as a vpn server. > > I am OK with the samba stuff so I am not concerned about that (well not > a lot). > > Since I have some hardware in my shop I can do testing here but need > pointers to get started. > > My preferred method would be to create a test system in my shop since > the final system would be placed in a production environment. > > Thank for any ideas !! Most Linuxen come with FreesWAN (for sure FC3 does), so you may want to have a look at their webpage: http://www.freeswan.org/ This is based on IPsec. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only - - occurs there and then - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Jun 9 18:02:03 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:02:03 -0500 Subject: vpn server In-Reply-To: <1118338637.6943.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> References: <1118338637.6943.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: <20050609180203.GA22240@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:37:17AM -0700, Ted Potter wrote: > > Greetings, > > I have an opportunity with a client. They currently use a NT box for > file storage and as a vpn server. Some folks work from home, vpn in to > the server and bla bla bla. > > Since NT is no longer an option and W2003 server OS is running about > $1500.00 for fifteen users (go bill go!) I was thinking perhaps a linux > box could be installed. > > Trouble is I have no experience using a linux box as a vpn server. > > I am OK with the samba stuff so I am not concerned about that (well not > a lot). > > Since I have some hardware in my shop I can do testing here but need > pointers to get started. > > My preferred method would be to create a test system in my shop since > the final system would be placed in a production environment. > > Thank for any ideas !! Check out http://www.poptop.org/ It's supposed to do the same thing as Micro$oft's VPN stuff. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From tpotter at techmarin.com Thu Jun 9 21:49:17 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:49:17 -0700 Subject: vpn server In-Reply-To: <20050609180203.GA22240@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1118338637.6943.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <20050609180203.GA22240@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <1118353757.6943.26.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 11:02, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:37:17AM -0700, Ted Potter wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I have an opportunity with a client. They currently use a NT box for > > file storage and as a vpn server. Some folks work from home, vpn in to > > the server and bla bla bla. > > > > Since NT is no longer an option and W2003 server OS is running about > > $1500.00 for fifteen users (go bill go!) I was thinking perhaps a linux > > box could be installed. > > > > Trouble is I have no experience using a linux box as a vpn server. > > > > I am OK with the samba stuff so I am not concerned about that (well not > > a lot). > > > > Since I have some hardware in my shop I can do testing here but need > > pointers to get started. > > > > My preferred method would be to create a test system in my shop since > > the final system would be placed in a production environment. > > > > Thank for any ideas !! > > Check out > > http://www.poptop.org/ > > It's supposed to do the same thing as Micro$oft's VPN stuff. > > Cheers, Thanks Bob. I was able to install an older version on my RH9 machine and test across the LAN. I need to work with program more to make sure it can do everything it needs to. -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com From tpotter at techmarin.com Thu Jun 9 21:51:56 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:51:56 -0700 Subject: vpn server In-Reply-To: <42A8837C.7050003@vitalstream.com> References: <1118338637.6943.12.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <42A8837C.7050003@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1118353916.6943.30.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:59, Rick Stevens wrote: > Ted Potter wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I have an opportunity with a client. They currently use a NT box for > > file storage and as a vpn server. Some folks work from home, vpn in to > > the server and bla bla bla. > > > > Since NT is no longer an option and W2003 server OS is running about > > $1500.00 for fifteen users (go bill go!) I was thinking perhaps a linux > > box could be installed. > > > > Trouble is I have no experience using a linux box as a vpn server. > > > > I am OK with the samba stuff so I am not concerned about that (well not > > a lot). > > > > Since I have some hardware in my shop I can do testing here but need > > pointers to get started. > > > > My preferred method would be to create a test system in my shop since > > the final system would be placed in a production environment. > > > > Thank for any ideas !! > > Most Linuxen come with FreesWAN (for sure FC3 does), so you may want to > have a look at their webpage: > > http://www.freeswan.org/ > > This is based on IPsec. Thanks Rick I will pickup FC3 and check it out. I noticed some IPsec stuff in the windows ppp client so I guess that combo would work. Anyway it's a great excuse to checkout FC3 ! > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com From tyche at ica.net Fri Jun 10 21:56:21 2005 From: tyche at ica.net (tyche) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:56:21 -0400 Subject: changed mobo, no sound Message-ID: <200506101756.21368.tyche@ica.net> under windoze, it says the sound system is cmi based. tho kudzu and sndconfig thinks its via. neither the via driver nor the cmi driver will insert. how can i manually insert what linux wants. have a modified rh8.0 with xfree 4.4.0 and kde 3.4 beta. xfree supplied binaries and kde compiled from source. any help would be appreciated. tyche btw: dont suggest redhat_* to set this up, all those commands do is pop up kdeuser. tia From mike.barnes2 at worldnet.att.net Sat Jun 11 13:09:43 2005 From: mike.barnes2 at worldnet.att.net (Mike Barnes) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:09:43 -0400 Subject: non-win 56k modem Message-ID: i have an intel based pc with red hat fedora core 3 installed on it and i want to install a modem in it so i can connect to my internet service provider (ISP). any suggestions as to which modem is the best and least expensive with the minimum amount of trouble? later i am going to install and run the firewall, mysql, php and apache on the linux pc, then i plan to connect my windows based pc through the linux box to connect to the internet Michael D. Barnes (MCP) (919)847-0468 mike.barnes2 at worldnet.att.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 6/8/2005 From harold at hallikainen.com Sat Jun 11 16:33:31 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: non-win 56k modem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1611.192.168.1.1.1118507611.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> It seems like the safest way to insure a modem does not use host processing is to use an external modem connected through an EIA-232 port. It's another box, but I think it's the safest way to get something that works... Harold > i have an intel based pc with red hat fedora core 3 installed on it and i > want to install a modem in it so i can connect to my internet service > provider (ISP). any suggestions as to which modem is the best and least > expensive with the minimum amount of trouble? later i am going to install > and run the firewall, mysql, php and apache on the linux pc, then i plan > to > connect my windows based pc through the linux box to connect to the > internet > > Michael D. Barnes (MCP) -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From vputhen at cc.hut.fi Sat Jun 11 20:37:27 2005 From: vputhen at cc.hut.fi (vpv) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:37:27 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Source RPMS Message-ID: Hello, I am new to Linux. I need to install source on a Linux machine. Is the Kernel source RPM available in the redhat FTP site? If not where else is it available. I got this machine to work on but there is no distribution CD available. regards vpv From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sat Jun 11 21:36:32 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:36:32 -0500 Subject: Source RPMS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050611213632.GB6864@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:37:27PM +0300, vpv wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to Linux. I need to install source on a Linux machine. Why? I've been in Linux for years and it's been years since I needed the kernel source. > Is the Kernel source RPM available in the redhat FTP site? > If not where else is it available. If you must, check out http://www.kernel.org/ but I don't think you are going to get what you think. You can't build a kernel unless you have Linux installed. What you more likely want is http://fedora.redhat.com/ > I got this machine to work on > but there is no distribution CD available. Check out KRUD http://www.tummy.com/Products/krud/ It is a superset of Fedora Core 3. You can buy a single issue (4 CDs) with all the latest patches and bug fixes for only $12. I have a subscription (monthly issues of the latest) so I can easily keep my five Linux machines up to date. > regards > vpv Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sun Jun 12 04:54:18 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:54:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Large Hard drive Message-ID: Got my Large hard drive installed - works Fine Business... Now it doesn't like my monitor - KDS - recognized it but when it tries to open a Window session it can't do it. How does one reconfigure the monitor under FC2? I guess I need to configure it manually and the only program I found tries to do it for me and it doesn't work. Also, put a NIC in the machine (not new but not too old) and on power up nothing is written to the monitor (not even the BIOS stuff) and the machine freezes so the only thing I can do is pull the plug. Is the card bad? I thought it was working when I pulled it. Oh, one last thing - I had a 8G hard drive in the machine and installed the 160G - I let the install do what it wanted but the only thing it put on the 8G drive was the /boot stuff, the rest went on the 160. I'd rather have most of it on the 8G drive if possible. Other than re-installing everything manually can I just MOVE directories over to the hda1 drive from the hdb1 drive? If so can I have on the hda1 drive the directory of \home\brad\mail and on the hdb1 drive could I have \home\brad\stuff or does \home\brad.... need to be all on one physical drive? If I can split the drives how does the move command work to move to a different drive - for that matter how do I creat a directory on the hda1 drive that is not under \boot? Like how would I make a hda1 directory of \home\brad? If I cd \ and mkdir \home\brad it will be on the hdb1 drive..... Thanks Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From markknecht at gmail.com Sun Jun 12 05:45:46 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 22:45:46 -0700 Subject: Large Hard drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050611224569ed3b96@mail.gmail.com> On 6/11/05, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > How does one > reconfigure the monitor under FC2? xorgconfig or something like xf86config if you are using Xfree86. > Is the card bad? Possibly. > Oh, one last thing - I had a 8G hard drive in the machine and > installed the 160G - I let the install do what it wanted but the > only thing it put on the 8G drive was the /boot stuff, the rest > went on the 160. I'd rather have most of it on the 8G drive if > possible. Other than re-installing everything manually can I > just MOVE directories over to the hda1 drive from the hdb1 drive? No, I do not think so. There are issues with links and things that won't survive a simple move command. You might want to search out 'dd' commands for transferring a partition from one drive to another. Rick has talked about it on this list before but I've never done it. > > If so can I have on the hda1 drive the directory of > \home\brad\mail and on the hdb1 drive could I have > \home\brad\stuff or does \home\brad.... need to be all on one > physical drive? No, the complete contents of /home/brad do not need to be one drive. I mount /dev/sda1 as /home/mark/music while /home/mark is /dev/hda3. I also mount NFS shares under my home account. > > If I can split the drives how does the move command work to move > to a different drive It's just a move but it will be slower since it's from one physical drive to another. > - for that matter how do I creat a directory > on the hda1 drive that is not under \boot? Linux mounts (normally) by partitions. /dev/hda needs a partition for you to mount under /home/brad. (I hope I understand what you mean. I'm finding this paragraph a bit harder to follow...) > Like how would I make > a hda1 directory of \home\brad? If I cd \ and mkdir > \home\brad it will be on the hdb1 drive..... Again, think about mounting partitions. You need to create partitions on the drives you want to mount and directories where you want to mount them. Off to bed for me I think. Good luck, Mark From vputhen at cc.hut.fi Sun Jun 12 17:00:51 2005 From: vputhen at cc.hut.fi (vpv) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:00:51 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Source RPMS In-Reply-To: <20050611213632.GB6864@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050611213632.GB6864@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: Hello, Thanks Bob for the detailed reply. Sorry my original mail was not clear enough. I have a computer with Linux (kernel 2.4.18) installed. But source is not installed. I have worked on Linux little bit but never got into installation etc. I have to modify slightly TCP and IP related files from exactly the same kernel version as exists in the machine. Thats why I have to figure out how to install just the source without changing anything in the running kernel and then modify it and recompile. thankyou vpv On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:37:27PM +0300, vpv wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am new to Linux. I need to install source on a Linux machine. > > Why? I've been in Linux for years and it's been years since I needed > the kernel source. > >> Is the Kernel source RPM available in the redhat FTP site? >> If not where else is it available. > > If you must, check out > > http://www.kernel.org/ > > but I don't think you are going to get what you think. You can't > build a kernel unless you have Linux installed. What you more likely > want is > > http://fedora.redhat.com/ > >> I got this machine to work on >> but there is no distribution CD available. > > Check out KRUD > > http://www.tummy.com/Products/krud/ > > It is a superset of Fedora Core 3. You can buy a single issue (4 CDs) > with all the latest patches and bug fixes for only $12. I have a > subscription (monthly issues of the latest) so I can easily keep my > five Linux machines up to date. > >> regards >> vpv > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God is more interested in our availability than our ability. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Sun Jun 12 19:31:34 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:31:34 -0500 Subject: Source RPMS In-Reply-To: References: <20050611213632.GB6864@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050612193134.GB3255@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Hi vpv, We prefer bottom posting (post below what you quote). Answer: Because it makes it easier to follow the interchange. Question: Why to you prefer bottom posting? So I will re-arrange this a little. On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:00:51PM +0300, vpv wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > >On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:37:27PM +0300, vpv wrote: > >>Hello, > >> > >>I am new to Linux. I need to install source on a Linux machine. > > > >Why? I've been in Linux for years and it's been years since I needed > >the kernel source. > > > >>Is the Kernel source RPM available in the redhat FTP site? > >>If not where else is it available. > > > >If you must, check out > > > >http://www.kernel.org/ > > > >but I don't think you are going to get what you think. You can't > >build a kernel unless you have Linux installed. What you more likely > >want is > > > >http://fedora.redhat.com/ > > > >>I got this machine to work on > >>but there is no distribution CD available. > > > >Check out KRUD > > > >http://www.tummy.com/Products/krud/ > > > >It is a superset of Fedora Core 3. You can buy a single issue (4 CDs) > >with all the latest patches and bug fixes for only $12. I have a > >subscription (monthly issues of the latest) so I can easily keep my > >five Linux machines up to date. > > > >>regards > >>vpv > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. > > Hello, > > Thanks Bob for the detailed reply. Sorry my original > mail was not clear enough. > > I have a computer with Linux (kernel 2.4.18) installed. But source is not > installed. I have worked on Linux little bit but never got into > installation etc. > > I have to modify slightly TCP and IP related files from exactly the > same kernel version as exists in the machine. Thats why I have to figure > out how to install just the source without changing anything in the > running kernel and then modify it and recompile. > > thankyou > vpv Then you should go to the kernel.org site, noted above, and get the latest 2.4.* kernel, binary and source. You really shouldn't be running an original kernel Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Jun 13 03:21:38 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 20:21:38 -0700 Subject: OT: Apache and frontpage Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > > Subjective matter of opinion, Andrew. In my opinion, I'd say so. > Caveat emptor, however. No RH support on FC...just the mailing lists. > I've been doing this for 30 years, however, so it takes a lot to scare > me! I can usually dig my way out. :-) > > We have FC1, FC3 and FC3 boxes in production. I'm wringing out FC4p2 > boxes as I write (and they seem OK for the most part). When FC4 is > released next week, I'll run tests on those also, and if they hold up, > we'll use it as well. FC, with a few minor glitches, works quite well. > Remember that FC1 WOULD have been RH10 had they not changed direction, > and RHEL4 is based on FC2. All of my personal boxes save one (a Mac > Mini) are running FC3 (including my Opteron), and that includes the > ones at the office. > > We also have Centos (whitebox version of RHEL3) in production along > with FreeBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, HPUX and IRIX. As far as Unixen go, > we're pretty agnostic. Ok... I have frontpage and apache 2.0.54 working happily together. Almost. First frontpage extensions and out of the box apache from redhat = bad. It's much easier to use the source from apache themselves. Now... I'm left with one annoyance. The web admin pages work, but I can't use the same usernames and passwords to access the websites with frontpage. Whenever I attempt a login the login prompt bounces right back again. I have done everything all the help pages on the internet, including Override All in every instance AllowOverride exists. Any pointers? From bkrueger at avaya.com Mon Jun 13 16:15:51 2005 From: bkrueger at avaya.com (Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob)) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:15:51 -0400 Subject: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 Message-ID: <16F9BDD39536704DA7BFB3172BF191720453DF6C@nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com> Bob, The reason is due to a 3rd party card, SW, and drivers that were done on RH 8.0 and there are not resources available or access to the source code to recompile or port to RHEL 4.0 or Fedora. Kind of a catch 22 problem. Thanks, Bob -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:36 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:01:25AM -0400, Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob) wrote: > Help! assistance needed ASAP, > > I am looking to install RH 8.0 on an IBM x-Series 346 server. The 346 > did not come out until after RH 8 was not supported so my problem is > that I need to find which are the correct drivers to use for the server, > the RAID card used is the ServeRaid 7K, P4 Xeon processor, the IBM hard > disk used is an IBM PN FRU 90P1309. > > > > Any help for finding and using the correct drivers in order to load and > run RH 8 on this server would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Bob Is there some reason why you must use RH 8.0? It has been end-of-lifed for some time, and so should not be considered secure by any stretch of the imagination. Any reason you can't install Fedora Core 2 or 3? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Jun 13 17:40:13 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:40:13 -0700 Subject: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Krueger, Robert Paul (Bob) [mailto:bkrueger at avaya.com] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:16 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: RE: Installing RH 8.0 Professional on an IBM x-Series 346 > > Bob, > The reason is due to a 3rd party card, SW, and drivers that were done on > RH 8.0 and there are not resources available or access to the source > code to recompile or port to RHEL 4.0 or Fedora. > > Kind of a catch 22 problem. > > Thanks, > Bob > Try Redhat Enterprise 3.0. It's not EOL'd and IIRC was based off Redhat 8.0. From vputhen at cc.hut.fi Mon Jun 13 19:34:19 2005 From: vputhen at cc.hut.fi (vpv) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:34:19 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Source RPMS In-Reply-To: <20050612193134.GB3255@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050611213632.GB6864@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050612193134.GB3255@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > Hi vpv, > > We prefer bottom posting (post below what you quote). > > Answer: Because it makes it easier to follow the interchange. > > Question: Why to you prefer bottom posting? > > So I will re-arrange this a little. > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:00:51PM +0300, vpv wrote: >> >> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:37:27PM +0300, vpv wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I am new to Linux. I need to install source on a Linux machine. >>> >>> Why? I've been in Linux for years and it's been years since I needed >>> the kernel source. >>> >>>> Is the Kernel source RPM available in the redhat FTP site? >>>> If not where else is it available. >>> >>> If you must, check out >>> >>> http://www.kernel.org/ >>> >>> but I don't think you are going to get what you think. You can't >>> build a kernel unless you have Linux installed. What you more likely >>> want is >>> >>> http://fedora.redhat.com/ >>> >>>> I got this machine to work on >>>> but there is no distribution CD available. >>> >>> Check out KRUD >>> >>> http://www.tummy.com/Products/krud/ >>> >>> It is a superset of Fedora Core 3. You can buy a single issue (4 CDs) >>> with all the latest patches and bug fixes for only $12. I have a >>> subscription (monthly issues of the latest) so I can easily keep my >>> five Linux machines up to date. >>> >>>> regards >>>> vpv >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- >>> Bob McClure, Jr. >> >> Hello, >> >> Thanks Bob for the detailed reply. Sorry my original >> mail was not clear enough. >> >> I have a computer with Linux (kernel 2.4.18) installed. But source is not >> installed. I have worked on Linux little bit but never got into >> installation etc. >> >> I have to modify slightly TCP and IP related files from exactly the >> same kernel version as exists in the machine. Thats why I have to figure >> out how to install just the source without changing anything in the >> running kernel and then modify it and recompile. >> >> thankyou >> vpv > > Then you should go to the kernel.org site, noted above, and get the > latest 2.4.* kernel, binary and source. You really shouldn't be > running an original kernel > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God is more interested in our availability than our ability. Hello Bob and others, Two more questions in this issue.This might be stupid: The installation on my computer is RH 7.2. Can I still get the required Kernel source version from Kernel.org and recompile it and use? > latest 2.4.* kernel, binary and source. You really shouldn't be > running an original kernel Sorry, I did not understand what you meant by this? vpv > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 13 19:54:01 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:54:01 -0500 Subject: Source RPMS In-Reply-To: References: <20050611213632.GB6864@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050612193134.GB3255@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050613195401.GA19596@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 10:34:19PM +0300, vpv wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2005, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > >On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 08:00:51PM +0300, vpv wrote: > >> > >>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> > >>>On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:37:27PM +0300, vpv wrote: > >>>>Hello, > >>>> > >>>>I am new to Linux. I need to install source on a Linux machine. > >>> > >>>Why? I've been in Linux for years and it's been years since I needed > >>>the kernel source. > >>> > >>>>Is the Kernel source RPM available in the redhat FTP site? > >>>>If not where else is it available. > >>> > >>>If you must, check out > >>> > >>>http://www.kernel.org/ > >>> > >>>Cheers, > >>>-- > >>>Bob McClure, Jr. > >> > >>Hello, > >> > >>Thanks Bob for the detailed reply. Sorry my original > >>mail was not clear enough. > >> > >>I have a computer with Linux (kernel 2.4.18) installed. But source is not > >>installed. I have worked on Linux little bit but never got into > >>installation etc. > >> > >>I have to modify slightly TCP and IP related files from exactly the > >>same kernel version as exists in the machine. Thats why I have to figure > >>out how to install just the source without changing anything in the > >>running kernel and then modify it and recompile. > >> > >>thankyou > >>vpv > > > >Then you should go to the kernel.org site, noted above, and get the > >latest 2.4.* kernel, binary and source. You really shouldn't be > >running an original kernel > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. > > Hello Bob and others, > > Two more questions in this issue.This might be stupid: I don't think so. > The installation on my computer is RH 7.2. Can I still get the required > Kernel source version from Kernel.org and recompile it and use? Yes. I don't know what kernel version that uses, but they have the latest (all known security and bug fixes included) kernels for v2.6, v2.4, v2.2, and even 2.0. > >latest 2.4.* kernel, binary and source. You really shouldn't be > >running an original kernel > > Sorry, I did not understand what you meant by this? You said you are using kernel v2.4.18. The current version of that set is v2.4.31, which fixes many bugs and security vulnerabilities. If you must use an antique version of RH, you can and should keep the kernel up to date. > vpv Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Jun 13 21:20:22 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:20:22 -0700 Subject: CUPS printing via the network Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0506131420f488a0b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have a working CUPS printer on a default install FC2 machine. I would like to share this printer via CUPS with other Linux machines on the network. CUPS appears from the manual to support this so I've tried setting it up on my client. I've told CUPS on my remote desktop that the printer is an Internet Printing Protocol printer and I've tried both of these options for an address of the printer: http://Christmas:631/ipp ipp://Christmas:631/ipp but in both cases CUPS on my client end tells me the printer is busy and the printer never prints anything. What am I doing wrong? Could a problem like this be caused by a firewall running on Christmas? If so what's the process of correctly opening up a port for this to work. Does the default FC installation make printers visible on the network as per the CUPS manual? Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 14 01:22:10 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:22:10 -0700 Subject: non-win 56k modem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42AE3142.7040308@vitalstream.com> Mike Barnes wrote: > i have an intel based pc with red hat fedora core 3 installed on it and i > want to install a modem in it so i can connect to my internet service > provider (ISP). any suggestions as to which modem is the best and least > expensive with the minimum amount of trouble? later i am going to install > and run the firewall, mysql, php and apache on the linux pc, then i plan to > connect my windows based pc through the linux box to connect to the internet Get an external modem (one that connects via the serial port). They're reasonably cheap and will work with darn near ANY operating system. USB and PCI (internal) modems are generally "winmodems", which are a nightmare to get working in Linux since most of the makers refues to release information that would permit open source drivers to be written. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Diplomacy: The art of saying "Nice doggy!" until you can find a - - big enough rock. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 14 01:33:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:33:15 -0700 Subject: Large Hard drive In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050611224569ed3b96@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b050611224569ed3b96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42AE33DB.2020501@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/11/05, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > >>How does one >>reconfigure the monitor under FC2? > > > xorgconfig or something like xf86config if you are using Xfree86. > > >>Is the card bad? > > > Possibly. When you say it won't open a window, exactly what do you mean? Does the monitor go dark, then reappear with an error message? Under FC2, the easiest way to reconfigure the X system is to use "redhat-config-display --reconfigure" >>Oh, one last thing - I had a 8G hard drive in the machine and >>installed the 160G - I let the install do what it wanted but the >>only thing it put on the 8G drive was the /boot stuff, the rest >>went on the 160. I'd rather have most of it on the 8G drive if >>possible. Other than re-installing everything manually can I >>just MOVE directories over to the hda1 drive from the hdb1 drive? > > > No, I do not think so. There are issues with links and things that > won't survive a simple move command. You might want to search out 'dd' > commands for transferring a partition from one drive to another. Rick > has talked about it on this list before but I've never done it. It can be done, but it's not trivial. We'd need to see some information before we could advise you. You need to post the results of the "df -h" command. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you configured the drives. Assuming you're using IDE drives, you could post the results of the following commands (run as the root user): # fdisk -l /dev/hda # fdisk -l /dev/hdb # fdisk -l /dev/hdc # fdisk -l /dev/hdd Also post the contents of your /etc/fstab file. When we have that info, we should be able to help. >>If so can I have on the hda1 drive the directory of >>\home\brad\mail and on the hdb1 drive could I have >>\home\brad\stuff or does \home\brad.... need to be all on one >>physical drive? > > > No, the complete contents of /home/brad do not need to be one drive. I > mount /dev/sda1 as /home/mark/music while /home/mark is /dev/hda3. I > also mount NFS shares under my home account. > > >>If I can split the drives how does the move command work to move >>to a different drive > > > It's just a move but it will be slower since it's from one physical > drive to another. Actually, moving data from one drive to another is faster than keeping it on the same drive (fewer head seeks). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Reality: A crutch for those who can't handle science fiction - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 01:36:20 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:36:20 -0700 Subject: CUPS printing via the network In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0506131420f488a0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0506131420f488a0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0506131836648fac49@mail.gmail.com> On 6/13/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I have a working CUPS printer on a default install FC2 machine. I > would like to share this printer via CUPS with other Linux machines on > the network. CUPS appears from the manual to support this so I've > tried setting it up on my client. I've told CUPS on my remote desktop > that the printer is an Internet Printing Protocol printer and I've > tried both of these options for an address of the printer: > > http://Christmas:631/ipp > ipp://Christmas:631/ipp > > but in both cases CUPS on my client end tells me the printer is busy > and the printer never prints anything. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Could a problem like this be caused by a firewall running on > Christmas? If so what's the process of correctly opening up a port for > this to work. > > Does the default FC installation make printers visible on the > network as per the CUPS manual? > No luck with this yet. The online instructions I can find talk about enabling Broswing so I've uncommented that on both the server and the client. The instructions say that everyone will 'see' the other printers automatically, but they don't seem to mention what 'see' really means. They do not show up in my printer chooser dialog boxes on either the FC2 machines of the Gentoo machines so I cannot tell what they think is going on. I've tried adding the printer like I showed aboe. When I do that I get no info in the log files on either end. I've set the the logging level to debug and cannot even see any new network oriented messages showing up in the log files. I've also tried linking to the Epson printer onthe FC2 machine or the cups-pdf printer on the gentoo box. Neither does anything so far. This all sounds so matter of fact in the CUPs manual that I expected it to be quite easy. So much for expectations. Thanks in advance, Mark From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 01:54:58 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:54:58 -0700 Subject: Large Hard drive In-Reply-To: <42AE33DB.2020501@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b050611224569ed3b96@mail.gmail.com> <42AE33DB.2020501@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061318545ec9c887@mail.gmail.com> On 6/13/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > It's just a move but it will be slower since it's from one physical > > drive to another. > > Actually, moving data from one drive to another is faster than keeping > it on the same drive (fewer head seeks). Than to another partition on the same drive? Yes, you are correct. To another directory on the same drive (which is what I was thinking when I wrote that) is faster than moving it from partition to partition or drive to drive though. Sorry for the confusion - Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 14 02:12:03 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:12:03 -0700 Subject: CUPS printing via the network In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0506131836648fac49@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0506131420f488a0b@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0506131836648fac49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42AE3CF3.8040603@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/13/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>Hi, >> I have a working CUPS printer on a default install FC2 machine. I >>would like to share this printer via CUPS with other Linux machines on >>the network. CUPS appears from the manual to support this so I've >>tried setting it up on my client. I've told CUPS on my remote desktop >>that the printer is an Internet Printing Protocol printer and I've >>tried both of these options for an address of the printer: >> >>http://Christmas:631/ipp >>ipp://Christmas:631/ipp >> >>but in both cases CUPS on my client end tells me the printer is busy >>and the printer never prints anything. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Could a problem like this be caused by a firewall running on >>Christmas? If so what's the process of correctly opening up a port for >>this to work. >> >> Does the default FC installation make printers visible on the >>network as per the CUPS manual? >> > > > No luck with this yet. The online instructions I can find talk about > enabling Broswing so I've uncommented that on both the server and the > client. The instructions say that everyone will 'see' the other > printers automatically, but they don't seem to mention what 'see' > really means. They do not show up in my printer chooser dialog boxes > on either the FC2 machines of the Gentoo machines so I cannot tell > what they think is going on. I've tried adding the printer like I > showed aboe. When I do that I get no info in the log files on either > end. I've set the the logging level to debug and cannot even see any > new network oriented messages showing up in the log files. > > I've also tried linking to the Epson printer onthe FC2 machine or the > cups-pdf printer on the gentoo box. Neither does anything so far. > > This all sounds so matter of fact in the CUPs manual that I expected > it to be quite easy. So much for expectations. Run "system-config-printer" on the CUPS server. When it comes up, right click on the printer you're trying to share and select "Sharing..." Make sure the "This queue is available to other printers" option is checked, then put in the appropriate "Allowed Hosts" IP stuff. For example, for my entire firewalled /24 network, I have "192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0" in there. Save the changes, then click on the "Apply" button. Once the CUPS system restarts, go to one of the clients and also run system-config-printer. Click on the "Browsed Queues" thing and you should see the printer in there. Select it and you're ready to go. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Heisenberg _may_ have slept here - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 02:45:59 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:45:59 -0700 Subject: CUPS printing via the network In-Reply-To: <42AE3CF3.8040603@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0506131420f488a0b@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0506131836648fac49@mail.gmail.com> <42AE3CF3.8040603@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061319456a561432@mail.gmail.com> > > Run "system-config-printer" on the CUPS server. When it comes up, > right click on the printer you're trying to share and select > "Sharing..." Make sure the "This queue is available to other printers" > option is checked, then put in the appropriate "Allowed Hosts" IP stuff. > For example, for my entire firewalled /24 network, I have > "192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0" in there. Save the changes, then click on > the "Apply" button. > > Once the CUPS system restarts, go to one of the clients and also run > system-config-printer. Click on the "Browsed Queues" thing and you > should see the printer in there. Select it and you're ready to go. Thanks Rick. That worked well for all machines. Have a great evening, Mark From damovand at yahoo.com Tue Jun 14 03:09:12 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 problem, Message-ID: <20050614030912.62613.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I?m attempting to upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora core 3. I?m an application developer not a system person so I purchased the CDs instead of attempting to download and burn them myself. Tonight after I received the CDs I started to install them but the process hangs just as soon as it starts. The following is what happens. Insert FC3 first CD and restart my system Choose "Graphic Mode" by pressing enter A bunch of diagnostics run on the console then the screen starts changing color, the diagnostics fade out and a bunch of vertical lines appear. After that nothing happens the CD drive open but when I place the second CD in it nothing happens. Does anyone have any idea what?s going on and why? If this is not the right place for me to ask my questions could someone please suggest a better list or forum? Thanks for your advice __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 05:41:32 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:41:32 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 problem, In-Reply-To: <20050614030912.62613.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050614030912.62613.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061322411899474e@mail.gmail.com> On 6/13/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > I'm attempting to upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora core > 3. I'm an application developer not a system person > so I purchased the CDs instead of attempting to > download and burn them myself. Tonight after I > received the CDs I started to install them but the > process hangs just as soon as it starts. The > following is what happens. > > Insert FC3 first CD and restart my system > Choose "Graphic Mode" by pressing enter > > A bunch of diagnostics run on the console then the > screen starts changing color, the diagnostics fade out > and a bunch of vertical lines appear. After that > nothing happens the CD drive open but when I place the > second CD in it nothing happens. Does anyone have any > idea what's going on and why? If this is not the > right place for me to ask my questions could someone > please suggest a better list or forum? > > Thanks for your advice > Leila, When the disk first starts up it's going to allow you to choose a kernel and also to add some kernel options. Try a few options, such as nousb noacpi nofirewire nokudzu Those are just possibe suggestions and not real guidance. Look at the options list. It's there somewhere. Try changing a few and seeing if you can get past this. I've had problems with P4HT machines and USB detection. Also try doing a text install instead of graphics. Sometimes that helps. Good luck, Mark From damovand at yahoo.com Tue Jun 14 13:01:09 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 problem, In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05061322411899474e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050614130109.41568.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/13/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > I'm attempting to upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora > core > > 3. I'm an application developer not a system > person > > so I purchased the CDs instead of attempting to > > download and burn them myself. Tonight after I > > received the CDs I started to install them but the > > process hangs just as soon as it starts. The > > following is what happens. > > > > Insert FC3 first CD and restart my system > > Choose "Graphic Mode" by pressing enter > > > > A bunch of diagnostics run on the console then the > > screen starts changing color, the diagnostics fade > out > > and a bunch of vertical lines appear. After that > > nothing happens the CD drive open but when I place > the > > second CD in it nothing happens. Does anyone have > any > > idea what's going on and why? If this is not the > > right place for me to ask my questions could > someone > > please suggest a better list or forum? > > > > Thanks for your advice > > > > Leila, > When the disk first starts up it's going to allow > you to choose a > kernel and also to add some kernel options. Try a > few options, such as > > nousb noacpi nofirewire nokudzu > > Those are just possibe suggestions and not real > guidance. Look at the > options list. It's there somewhere. Try changing a > few and seeing if > you can get past this. I've had problems with P4HT > machines and USB > detection. > > Also try doing a text install instead of graphics. > Sometimes that helps. > > Good luck, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Hi Mark, Thank you for your suggestion. I tried another option and exact same thing happened. This time I selected to test the setup, I don't remember the exact wording something about media. But it did exactly the same thing as when I chose to install in graphic mode! This is where it hangs: trying to remount root filesystem read write... done mounting /tmp as ramfs... done running install... running /sbin/loader I've searched through internet and found a few others having the same problem but I haven't found how they solved it. One post says that there should be a pause of just 40 seconds and then I should the options to select the language and so on. Well if anyone else has any ideas I'll appreciate your thoughts and suggestions. Leila __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From blackhat- at excite.com Tue Jun 14 13:23:54 2005 From: blackhat- at excite.com (Ilya Fainberg) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kernel Panic during installation Message-ID: <20050614132354.DF3118AF0E@xprdmailfe2.nwk.excite.com> Hey ppl, i have this problem with installing my linux: OS: RedHat Enterprise Linux Version 4 AS Sys: P4 HT @3.0GHz 512 DDR RAM 80GB SATA HDD Some Intel Mother board BuiltIn LAN BuiltIn Graphic Adapter BuiltIn Audio Ok, so there's the problem, I boot linux from the CD, it loads up and shows me the "boot:" thing so i say ok and hit the return key. The screen flickers and i get "Kernel panic not syncing attemped to kill init" That is after it tries to load something that is called kernel_thread_helper. I tried any possible BIOS configuration and it doesn't work, i tried "linux mem=256M" and it still doesn't work, although i don't get a kernel panic when i write "linux mem=256" when i do that it simply shows me "Unpacking Linux.... ok booting kernel" and... that's it. it's stuck. Dear RedHat experts, please help me with that problem for i have no idea what is wrong, i use redhat since RedHat Linux 5 and never had anything like that before. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Jun 14 15:17:34 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:17:34 -0500 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 problem, In-Reply-To: <20050614130109.41568.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061322411899474e@mail.gmail.com> <20050614130109.41568.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050614151734.GA24115@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:01:09AM -0700, Leila Lappin wrote: > > --- Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On 6/13/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > I'm attempting to upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora > > core > > > 3. I'm an application developer not a system > > person > > > so I purchased the CDs instead of attempting to > > > download and burn them myself. Tonight after I > > > received the CDs I started to install them but the > > > process hangs just as soon as it starts. The > > > following is what happens. > > > > > > Insert FC3 first CD and restart my system > > > Choose "Graphic Mode" by pressing enter > > > > > > A bunch of diagnostics run on the console then the > > > screen starts changing color, the diagnostics fade > > out > > > and a bunch of vertical lines appear. After that > > > nothing happens the CD drive open but when I place > > the > > > second CD in it nothing happens. Does anyone have > > any > > > idea what's going on and why? If this is not the > > > right place for me to ask my questions could > > someone > > > please suggest a better list or forum? > > > > > > Thanks for your advice > > > > > > > Leila, > > When the disk first starts up it's going to allow > > you to choose a > > kernel and also to add some kernel options. Try a > > few options, such as > > > > nousb noacpi nofirewire nokudzu > > > > Those are just possibe suggestions and not real > > guidance. Look at the > > options list. It's there somewhere. Try changing a > > few and seeing if > > you can get past this. I've had problems with P4HT > > machines and USB > > detection. > > > > Also try doing a text install instead of graphics. > > Sometimes that helps. > > > > Good luck, > > Mark > > > > Hi Mark, > > Thank you for your suggestion. I tried another option > and exact same thing happened. This time I selected > to test the setup, I don't remember the exact wording > something about media. But it did exactly the same > thing as when I chose to install in graphic mode! This > is where it hangs: > > trying to remount root filesystem read write... done > mounting /tmp as ramfs... done > running install... > running /sbin/loader > > I've searched through internet and found a few others > having the same problem but I haven't found how they > solved it. One post says that there should be a pause > of just 40 seconds and then I should the options to > select the language and so on. Well if anyone else > has any ideas I'll appreciate your thoughts and > suggestions. > > Leila I've had several machines require the "acpi=off" option. (That may be the same as "noacpi" that Mark suggested.) At least one other required "ide=nodma". See also http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies for more (but possibly antiquated) suggestions. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 16:06:29 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:06:29 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 problem, In-Reply-To: <20050614151734.GA24115@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061322411899474e@mail.gmail.com> <20050614130109.41568.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20050614151734.GA24115@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0506140906439b09cb@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/05, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:01:09AM -0700, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > > --- Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > On 6/13/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > > I'm attempting to upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora > > > core > > > > 3. I'm an application developer not a system > > > person > > > > so I purchased the CDs instead of attempting to > > > > download and burn them myself. Tonight after I > > > > received the CDs I started to install them but the > > > > process hangs just as soon as it starts. The > > > > following is what happens. > > > > > > > > Insert FC3 first CD and restart my system > > > > Choose "Graphic Mode" by pressing enter > > > > > > > > A bunch of diagnostics run on the console then the > > > > screen starts changing color, the diagnostics fade > > > out > > > > and a bunch of vertical lines appear. After that > > > > nothing happens the CD drive open but when I place > > > the > > > > second CD in it nothing happens. Does anyone have > > > any > > > > idea what's going on and why? If this is not the > > > > right place for me to ask my questions could > > > someone > > > > please suggest a better list or forum? > > > > > > > > Thanks for your advice > > > > > > > > > > Leila, > > > When the disk first starts up it's going to allow > > > you to choose a > > > kernel and also to add some kernel options. Try a > > > few options, such as > > > > > > nousb noacpi nofirewire nokudzu > > > > > > Those are just possibe suggestions and not real > > > guidance. Look at the > > > options list. It's there somewhere. Try changing a > > > few and seeing if > > > you can get past this. I've had problems with P4HT > > > machines and USB > > > detection. > > > > > > Also try doing a text install instead of graphics. > > > Sometimes that helps. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Mark > > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > Thank you for your suggestion. I tried another option > > and exact same thing happened. This time I selected > > to test the setup, I don't remember the exact wording > > something about media. But it did exactly the same > > thing as when I chose to install in graphic mode! This > > is where it hangs: > > > > trying to remount root filesystem read write... done > > mounting /tmp as ramfs... done > > running install... > > running /sbin/loader > > > > I've searched through internet and found a few others > > having the same problem but I haven't found how they > > solved it. One post says that there should be a pause > > of just 40 seconds and then I should the options to > > select the language and so on. Well if anyone else > > has any ideas I'll appreciate your thoughts and > > suggestions. > > > > Leila > > I've had several machines require the "acpi=off" option. (That may be > the same as "noacpi" that Mark suggested.) At least one other > required "ide=nodma". See also I think noacpi and acpi=off are subtly different. Both could/should be tried. I think ide=nodma is a real good bet. I have some Asus Pundit-R machines based on the newer ATI chipsets. I cannot install Gentoo on them without using ide=nodma. Once installed I have DMA enabled and get >50MB/S from the drives. One Intel box I have fails when USB is enabled with FC2 or Gentoo, but USB works fine when I get to a real kernel at the end of the install. I could never get FC3 to load on an SiS-based machine I got for my son at Christmas time. (And which many of you helped me get going. My continued thanks!) That machine installs and runs FC2 jsut fine though. Leila may be seeing whatever stood in my way on that machine. I suggest just continuing to try all the options that the install kernel makes available. Good luck, Mark From damovand at yahoo.com Tue Jun 14 22:18:41 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 problem, In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0506140906439b09cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050614221841.99939.qmail@web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/14/05, Bob McClure Jr > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 06:01:09AM -0700, Leila > Lappin wrote: > > > > > > --- Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > On 6/13/05, Leila Lappin > wrote: > > > > > I'm attempting to upgrade from Redhat 9 to > Fedora > > > > core > > > > > 3. I'm an application developer not a > system > > > > person > > > > > so I purchased the CDs instead of attempting > to > > > > > download and burn them myself. Tonight > after I > > > > > received the CDs I started to install them > but the > > > > > process hangs just as soon as it starts. > The > > > > > following is what happens. > > > > > > > > > > Insert FC3 first CD and restart my > system > > > > > Choose "Graphic Mode" by pressing enter > > > > > > > > > > A bunch of diagnostics run on the console > then the > > > > > screen starts changing color, the > diagnostics fade > > > > out > > > > > and a bunch of vertical lines appear. After > that > > > > > nothing happens the CD drive open but when I > place > > > > the > > > > > second CD in it nothing happens. Does > anyone have > > > > any > > > > > idea what's going on and why? If this is > not the > > > > > right place for me to ask my questions could > > > > someone > > > > > please suggest a better list or forum? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your advice > > > > > > > > > > > > > Leila, > > > > When the disk first starts up it's going to > allow > > > > you to choose a > > > > kernel and also to add some kernel options. > Try a > > > > few options, such as > > > > > > > > nousb noacpi nofirewire nokudzu > > > > > > > > Those are just possibe suggestions and not > real > > > > guidance. Look at the > > > > options list. It's there somewhere. Try > changing a > > > > few and seeing if > > > > you can get past this. I've had problems with > P4HT > > > > machines and USB > > > > detection. > > > > > > > > Also try doing a text install instead of > graphics. > > > > Sometimes that helps. > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > > > Thank you for your suggestion. I tried another > option > > > and exact same thing happened. This time I > selected > > > to test the setup, I don't remember the exact > wording > > > something about media. But it did exactly the > same > > > thing as when I chose to install in graphic > mode! This > > > is where it hangs: > > > > > > trying to remount root filesystem read write... > done > > > mounting /tmp as ramfs... done > > > running install... > > > running /sbin/loader > > > > > > I've searched through internet and found a few > others > > > having the same problem but I haven't found how > they > > > solved it. One post says that there should be a > pause > > > of just 40 seconds and then I should the options > to > > > select the language and so on. Well if anyone > else > > > has any ideas I'll appreciate your thoughts and > > > suggestions. > > > > > > Leila > > > > I've had several machines require the "acpi=off" > option. (That may be > > the same as "noacpi" that Mark suggested.) At > least one other > > required "ide=nodma". See also > > I think noacpi and acpi=off are subtly different. > Both could/should be tried. > > I think ide=nodma is a real good bet. I have some > Asus Pundit-R > machines based on the newer ATI chipsets. I cannot > install Gentoo on > them without using ide=nodma. Once installed I have > DMA enabled and > get >50MB/S from the drives. > > One Intel box I have fails when USB is enabled with > FC2 or Gentoo, but > USB works fine when I get to a real kernel at the > end of the install. > I could never get FC3 to load on an SiS-based > machine I got for my son > at Christmas time. (And which many of you helped me > get going. My > continued thanks!) That machine installs and runs > FC2 jsut fine > though. Leila may be seeing whatever stood in my way > on that machine. > > I suggest just continuing to try all the options > that the install > kernel makes available. > > Good luck, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Thank you everyone for your suggestions, I think the answer to my problem lies somewhere in your suggestions. But please note that my knowledge of the Linux operating system is at an abstract theoretical level only. Your suggestions to me sound like algebra to a first grader. In any case, I checked this link http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies, according to this QA, it seems the problem may be incompatibility between the USB keyboard and the install kernel is causing the problem. Although I don?t understand why but I?m concluding that if I do what they suggest I should be okay. My question is how do I get into bios mode and what do I need to set? What would that setting on or off of the ?legacy USB? do? And also could you please direct me where I may find more information on the other options that you have been mentioning, nousb noacpi nofirewire nokudzu? What are these things and how do I set them on or off. Please I know these are big questions and if you don?t want to spend the time could you please direct me to some links? Thank you all very much again. Leila __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html From damovand at yahoo.com Tue Jun 14 23:59:54 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers Message-ID: <20050614235954.77783.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I am researching some online sources to figure out my problem with Fedora install hanging. There's been some suggestions already, and if I understand them correctly, that the install kernel may be incompatible with USB keyboard (from this site http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies). Then I found this site (http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/linuxtips/) and the following excerpts from it: ==== Linux problems with solution === Problem: USB mouse using /dev/psaux, the ps/2 mouse device. Cause: Bios usb legacy support in action, probably because Linux didn't probe for USB devices (which causes the bios to release control of them). Solution: Compile the kernel with USB support, Input Core and USB HID. Reason: Duh. ======================= I checked my dmesg and found these two lines: hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice Comparing my setup with the above I am concluding that the problem is indeed the bios USB legacy support in action. So what can I do to fix this for the install kernel? Thanks Leila __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 00:27:41 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:27:41 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050614235954.77783.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050614235954.77783.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050614172797ed876@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > Hi, > > I am researching some online sources to figure out my > problem with Fedora install hanging. There's been > some suggestions already, and if I understand them > correctly, that the install kernel may be incompatible > with USB keyboard (from this site > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies). Then > I found this site > (http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/linuxtips/) and > the following excerpts from it: > > ==== Linux problems with solution === > Problem: > USB mouse using /dev/psaux, the ps/2 mouse device. > Cause: > Bios usb legacy support in action, probably because > Linux didn't probe for USB devices (which causes the > bios to release control of them). > Solution: > Compile the kernel with USB support, Input Core and > USB HID. > Reason: > Duh. > ======================= > > I checked my dmesg and found these two lines: > > hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > > Comparing my setup with the above I am concluding that > the problem is indeed the bios USB legacy support in > action. So what can I do to fix this for the install > kernel? > > Thanks Leila > > > Leila, Do you actually use a USB keyboard? If so can you local an old PS2 keyboard to see if usign it solves your problem? I did a bit of Googling but couldn't find a list of all the boot options for the FC3 kernels. I'll keep poking around while I work on my problems here. Cheers, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 15 00:58:16 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:58:16 -0700 Subject: Kernel Panic during installation In-Reply-To: <20050614132354.DF3118AF0E@xprdmailfe2.nwk.excite.com> References: <20050614132354.DF3118AF0E@xprdmailfe2.nwk.excite.com> Message-ID: <42AF7D28.20307@vitalstream.com> Ilya Fainberg wrote: > Hey ppl, i have this problem with installing my linux: > OS: RedHat Enterprise Linux Version 4 AS > Sys: P4 HT @3.0GHz > 512 DDR RAM > 80GB SATA HDD > Some Intel Mother board > BuiltIn LAN > BuiltIn Graphic Adapter > BuiltIn Audio > > Ok, so there's the problem, I boot linux from the CD, it loads up and shows me the "boot:" thing so i say ok and hit the return key. The screen flickers and i get "Kernel panic not syncing attemped to kill init" That is after it tries to load something that is called kernel_thread_helper. > > I tried any possible BIOS configuration and it doesn't work, i tried "linux mem=256M" and it still doesn't work, although i don't get a kernel panic when i write "linux mem=256" when i do that it simply shows me "Unpacking Linux.... ok booting kernel" and... that's it. it's stuck. > > Dear RedHat experts, please help me with that problem for i have no idea what is wrong, i use redhat since RedHat Linux 5 and never had anything like that before. Try doing a text-based install. At the "boot:" prompt, enter linux text and see how that goes. It's not uncommon for GUI-based installs to have issues. You can configure the GUI after the system is installed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Dyslexics of the world: UNTIE! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Jun 15 02:57:10 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Keeping track of config file changes Message-ID: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> What's the best way to keep track of all the config file changes I've made over the years? I think it's kind of a lost cause on my existing machine, but on the next one I'd like to quickly find the changes so when I do an update of something that requires a new config, I can put the changes back in. I'm thinking of putting something unique on each line I change, then doing a big grep. I use CVS to track my own code, but it seems a bit unwieldy for this application. Any suggestions? Thanks! Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 03:06:51 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050614172797ed876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050615030652.57958.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am researching some online sources to figure out > my > > problem with Fedora install hanging. There's been > > some suggestions already, and if I understand them > > correctly, that the install kernel may be > incompatible > > with USB keyboard (from this site > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies). > Then > > I found this site > > (http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/linuxtips/) > and > > the following excerpts from it: > > > > ==== Linux problems with solution === > > Problem: > > USB mouse using /dev/psaux, the ps/2 mouse device. > > Cause: > > Bios usb legacy support in action, probably > because > > Linux didn't probe for USB devices (which causes > the > > bios to release control of them). > > Solution: > > Compile the kernel with USB support, Input Core > and > > USB HID. > > Reason: > > Duh. > > ======================= > > > > I checked my dmesg and found these two lines: > > > > hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers > > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > > > > Comparing my setup with the above I am concluding > that > > the problem is indeed the bios USB legacy support > in > > action. So what can I do to fix this for the > install > > kernel? > > > > Thanks Leila > > > > > > > > Leila, > Do you actually use a USB keyboard? If so can you > local an old PS2 > keyboard to see if usign it solves your problem? > > I did a bit of Googling but couldn't find a list > of all the boot > options for the FC3 kernels. I'll keep poking around > while I work on > my problems here. > > Cheers, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Mark thanks for helping me out. Could you please tell me what these two lines, from my dmesg, mean? Don?t they indicate the type of device that I have? hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 15 03:14:42 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:14:42 -0500 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050614172797ed876@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050614235954.77783.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5bdc1c8b050614172797ed876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050615031442.GA14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 05:27:41PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am researching some online sources to figure out my > > problem with Fedora install hanging. There's been > > some suggestions already, and if I understand them > > correctly, that the install kernel may be incompatible > > with USB keyboard (from this site > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies). Then > > I found this site > > (http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/linuxtips/) and > > the following excerpts from it: > > > > ==== Linux problems with solution === > > Problem: > > USB mouse using /dev/psaux, the ps/2 mouse device. > > Cause: > > Bios usb legacy support in action, probably because > > Linux didn't probe for USB devices (which causes the > > bios to release control of them). > > Solution: > > Compile the kernel with USB support, Input Core and > > USB HID. > > Reason: > > Duh. > > ======================= > > > > I checked my dmesg and found these two lines: > > > > hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers > > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > > > > Comparing my setup with the above I am concluding that > > the problem is indeed the bios USB legacy support in > > action. So what can I do to fix this for the install > > kernel? > > > > Thanks Leila Re: your earlier posting - How you get into the BIOS depends. Some require that you hit the key during the POST (Power-On Self-Test), before it issues the single beep. Some require the key. At the very beginning of the boot, the BIOS (maybe) tells you what to hit to enter "Setup mode", usually at the bottom of the screen. When you get there, if legacy USB support is enabled, disable it. If disabled, enable it. Different users have reported differing requirements. > Leila, > Do you actually use a USB keyboard? If so can you local an old PS2 > keyboard to see if usign it solves your problem? That's the most foolproof solution. Fortunately it's cheap, too, even if you have to buy one. I've never understood the virtue of a USB keyboard. Why abandon an always-available PS/2 keyboard socket so you can take up a sometimes-scarce USB port. > I did a bit of Googling but couldn't find a list of all the boot > options for the FC3 kernels. I'll keep poking around while I work on > my problems here. My reference has been this: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/ch-bootopts.html It's for RH 9, but it's mostly still applicable. Rick Stevens refers to the kernel source code, but I don't know which file, and you probably don't have access to it anyway. > Cheers, > Mark Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 15 03:20:01 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:20:01 -0500 Subject: Keeping track of config file changes In-Reply-To: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:57:10PM -0700, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > What's the best way to keep track of all the config file changes I've made > over the years? I think it's kind of a lost cause on my existing machine, > but on the next one I'd like to quickly find the changes so when I do an > update of something that requires a new config, I can put the changes back > in. I'm thinking of putting something unique on each line I change, then > doing a big grep. I use CVS to track my own code, but it seems a bit > unwieldy for this application. Any suggestions? RCS comes to mind. > Thanks! > > Harold Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 03:23:36 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615031442.GA14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 05:27:41PM -0700, Mark > Knecht wrote: > > On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am researching some online sources to figure > out my > > > problem with Fedora install hanging. There's > been > > > some suggestions already, and if I understand > them > > > correctly, that the install kernel may be > incompatible > > > with USB keyboard (from this site > > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies). > Then > > > I found this site > > > (http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/linuxtips/) > and > > > the following excerpts from it: > > > > > > ==== Linux problems with solution === > > > Problem: > > > USB mouse using /dev/psaux, the ps/2 mouse > device. > > > Cause: > > > Bios usb legacy support in action, probably > because > > > Linux didn't probe for USB devices (which causes > the > > > bios to release control of them). > > > Solution: > > > Compile the kernel with USB support, Input Core > and > > > USB HID. > > > Reason: > > > Duh. > > > ======================= > > > > > > I checked my dmesg and found these two lines: > > > > > > hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers > > > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > > > > > > Comparing my setup with the above I am > concluding that > > > the problem is indeed the bios USB legacy > support in > > > action. So what can I do to fix this for the > install > > > kernel? > > > > > > Thanks Leila > > Re: your earlier posting - How you get into the BIOS > depends. Some > require that you hit the key during the POST > (Power-On > Self-Test), before it issues the single beep. Some > require the > key. At the very beginning of the boot, the BIOS > (maybe) tells you > what to hit to enter "Setup mode", usually at the > bottom of the > screen. > > When you get there, if legacy USB support is > enabled, disable it. If > disabled, enable it. Different users have reported > differing > requirements. > > > Leila, > > Do you actually use a USB keyboard? If so can > you local an old PS2 > > keyboard to see if usign it solves your problem? > > That's the most foolproof solution. Fortunately > it's cheap, too, even > if you have to buy one. I've never understood the > virtue of a USB > keyboard. Why abandon an always-available PS/2 > keyboard socket so you > can take up a sometimes-scarce USB port. > > > I did a bit of Googling but couldn't find a > list of all the boot > > options for the FC3 kernels. I'll keep poking > around while I work on > > my problems here. > > My reference has been this: > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/ch-bootopts.html > > It's for RH 9, but it's mostly still applicable. > Rick Stevens refers > to the kernel source code, but I don't know which > file, and you > probably don't have access to it anyway. > > > Cheers, > > Mark > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God is more interested in our availability than our > ability. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Wow thank you so much! I think I'm going to follow you advice about PS/2. If I change USB to PS/2 do I still have to get into the setup mode and enable/disable legacy USB? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 15 03:54:11 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:54:11 -0500 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050615031442.GA14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050615035411.GD14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 08:23:36PM -0700, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > --- Bob McClure Jr > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 05:27:41PM -0700, Mark > > Knecht wrote: > > > On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am researching some online sources to figure > > out my > > > > problem with Fedora install hanging. There's > > been > > > > some suggestions already, and if I understand > > them > > > > correctly, that the install kernel may be > > incompatible > > > > with USB keyboard (from this site > > > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#install_dies). > > Then > > > > I found this site > > > > (http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/linuxtips/) > > and > > > > the following excerpts from it: > > > > > > > > ==== Linux problems with solution === > > > > Problem: > > > > USB mouse using /dev/psaux, the ps/2 mouse > > device. > > > > Cause: > > > > Bios usb legacy support in action, probably > > because > > > > Linux didn't probe for USB devices (which causes > > the > > > > bios to release control of them). > > > > Solution: > > > > Compile the kernel with USB support, Input Core > > and > > > > USB HID. > > > > Reason: > > > > Duh. > > > > ======================= > > > > > > > > I checked my dmesg and found these two lines: > > > > > > > > hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers > > > > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > > > > > > > > Comparing my setup with the above I am > > concluding that > > > > the problem is indeed the bios USB legacy > > support in > > > > action. So what can I do to fix this for the > > install > > > > kernel? > > > > > > > > Thanks Leila > > > > Re: your earlier posting - How you get into the BIOS > > depends. Some > > require that you hit the key during the POST > > (Power-On > > Self-Test), before it issues the single beep. Some > > require the > > key. At the very beginning of the boot, the BIOS > > (maybe) tells you > > what to hit to enter "Setup mode", usually at the > > bottom of the > > screen. > > > > When you get there, if legacy USB support is > > enabled, disable it. If > > disabled, enable it. Different users have reported > > differing > > requirements. > > > > > Leila, > > > Do you actually use a USB keyboard? If so can > > you local an old PS2 > > > keyboard to see if usign it solves your problem? > > > > That's the most foolproof solution. Fortunately > > it's cheap, too, even > > if you have to buy one. I've never understood the > > virtue of a USB > > keyboard. Why abandon an always-available PS/2 > > keyboard socket so you > > can take up a sometimes-scarce USB port. > > > > > I did a bit of Googling but couldn't find a > > list of all the boot > > > options for the FC3 kernels. I'll keep poking > > around while I work on > > > my problems here. > > > > My reference has been this: > > > > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/ch-bootopts.html > > > > It's for RH 9, but it's mostly still applicable. > > Rick Stevens refers > > to the kernel source code, but I don't know which > > file, and you > > probably don't have access to it anyway. > > > > > Cheers, > > > Mark > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wow thank you so much! > > I think I'm going to follow you advice about PS/2. If > I change USB to PS/2 do I still have to get into the > setup mode and enable/disable legacy USB? I don't think so. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 04:45:53 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:45:53 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615030652.57958.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5bdc1c8b050614172797ed876@mail.gmail.com> <20050615030652.57958.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0506142145519928e6@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > Mark thanks for helping me out. > > Could you please tell me what these two lines, from my > dmesg, mean? Don't they indicate the type of device > that I have? > > hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers > mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice > Yes, they should. USB HID == USB Human Interface Device. It's one of the sort of devices that USB supports. I've had to turn it on when I build kernels to get support for my USB UPS's. I'd guess the message is saying that the kernel has discovered a USB mouse that's compatible with the PS2 protocols, but that's just a guess. From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 04:51:13 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:51:13 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050615031442.GA14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050614215159d4f50c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > Wow thank you so much! > > I think I'm going to follow you advice about PS/2. If > I change USB to PS/2 do I still have to get into the > setup mode and enable/disable legacy USB? Maybe yes, maybe no. The 'crash' can come at multiple places. It may be crashing (hanging) when it's trying to discover the USB controller itself, or it may be crashing when it's trying to decide what to do with a specific USB decide. I don't know how to tell. Another trick you might try is to download another distro's Live CD. Possibly a copy of Knoppix would boot and tell you something about the hardware and what drivers are getting loaded. It would also tell you if the hardware in this machine is well supported and whether this is an FC3 problem only. Now, when I buy new PCs at the store I take 3 or 4 boot CDs - Knoppix, Damn Small Linux, Gentoo, etc., and make sure the PC will boot on of them. It's a good feeling to know what you're in store for when you get home. Good luck, Mark (Signing out for the evening.) From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Jun 15 05:19:01 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:19:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Large Hard drive In-Reply-To: <42AE33DB.2020501@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b050611224569ed3b96@mail.gmail.com> <42AE33DB.2020501@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: I'll have to get back to you - shipping my wife off to her mothers tomorrow then going camping for about a week. Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 6/11/05, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > > > > How does one > > > reconfigure the monitor under FC2? > > > > > > xorgconfig or something like xf86config if you are using Xfree86. > > > > > > > Is the card bad? > > > > > > Possibly. > > When you say it won't open a window, exactly what do you mean? Does > the monitor go dark, then reappear with an error message? > > Under FC2, the easiest way to reconfigure the X system is to use > "redhat-config-display --reconfigure" > > > > Oh, one last thing - I had a 8G hard drive in the machine and > > > installed the 160G - I let the install do what it wanted but the > > > only thing it put on the 8G drive was the /boot stuff, the rest > > > went on the 160. I'd rather have most of it on the 8G drive if > > > possible. Other than re-installing everything manually can I > > > just MOVE directories over to the hda1 drive from the hdb1 drive? > > > > > > No, I do not think so. There are issues with links and things that > > won't survive a simple move command. You might want to search out 'dd' > > commands for transferring a partition from one drive to another. Rick > > has talked about it on this list before but I've never done it. > > It can be done, but it's not trivial. We'd need to see some information > before we could advise you. You need to post the results of the "df -h" > command. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you > configured the drives. Assuming you're using IDE drives, you could > post the results of the following commands (run as the root user): > > # fdisk -l /dev/hda > # fdisk -l /dev/hdb > # fdisk -l /dev/hdc > # fdisk -l /dev/hdd > > Also post the contents of your /etc/fstab file. When we have that info, > we should be able to help. > > > > If so can I have on the hda1 drive the directory of > > > \home\brad\mail and on the hdb1 drive could I have > > > \home\brad\stuff or does \home\brad.... need to be all on one > > > physical drive? > > > > > > No, the complete contents of /home/brad do not need to be one drive. I > > mount /dev/sda1 as /home/mark/music while /home/mark is /dev/hda3. I > > also mount NFS shares under my home account. > > > > > > > If I can split the drives how does the move command work to move > > > to a different drive > > > > > > It's just a move but it will be slower since it's from one physical > > drive to another. > > Actually, moving data from one drive to another is faster than keeping > it on the same drive (fewer head seeks). > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Reality: A crutch for those who can't handle science fiction - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From jaspratap.b at noida.hcltech.com Wed Jun 15 07:34:18 2005 From: jaspratap.b at noida.hcltech.com (Jaspratap Singh Brar, Noida) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:04:18 +0530 Subject: problem in Xserver Message-ID: <8A6EB6A72A5C774C8814DDC1501FC90E5AEAD7@exch-01.noida.hcltech.com> Hi all, I am user of red hat Linux 2.4 My UI are not properly installed and I am getting message INIT:Id "X" respawning too fast:disabled for 5 minutes Could any one please tell me the solution Jaspratap Singh Brar HCL Technologies,NOIDA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When I start the Red Hat 9 installation the software tells me it cant detect any HDD. I have looked for drivers and help on the net, no go. Has someone had the same problem, how can I fix it? Please let me know I'm desperate. Thanks & regards Mohit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abturnbull at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 13:13:05 2005 From: abturnbull at gmail.com (Andrew Turnbull) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:13:05 +0100 Subject: problem in installing In-Reply-To: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FED2EDF4@inhyms21.ca.com> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FED2EDF4@inhyms21.ca.com> Message-ID: On 6/15/05, Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: > > > Hello Friends > > I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 drive that is connected with a > serial cable to the MB. > > When I start the Red Hat 9 installation the software tells me it cant detect > any HDD. > > I have looked for drivers and help on the net, no go. Has someone had the > same problem, how can I fix it? > > Please let me know I'm desperate. > > > > Thanks & regards > > Mohit > > > Hi What Motherboard is it ? What SATA Controller do you have ? Thanks From Mohit.Aggrawal at ca.com Wed Jun 15 13:26:12 2005 From: Mohit.Aggrawal at ca.com (Aggrawal, Mohit) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:56:12 +0530 Subject: problem in installing Message-ID: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FED2EE25@inhyms21.ca.com> MB is INTEL 915 GVM and I have not got any disk or software with SATA HD Windows XP is working fine with standard driver ..the problem is only with red hat Linux 9. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Turnbull Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:43 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: problem in installing On 6/15/05, Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: > > > Hello Friends > > I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 drive that is connected with a > serial cable to the MB. > > When I start the Red Hat 9 installation the software tells me it cant detect > any HDD. > > I have looked for drivers and help on the net, no go. Has someone had the > same problem, how can I fix it? > > Please let me know I'm desperate. > > > > Thanks & regards > > Mohit > > > Hi What Motherboard is it ? What SATA Controller do you have ? Thanks _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com Wed Jun 15 13:45:15 2005 From: sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com (Sujitkumar Shirkar) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:45:15 +0000 Subject: problem in installing In-Reply-To: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FED2EE25@inhyms21.ca.com> Message-ID: Hello Mohit I dont think the defoult kernel of redhat 9 support SATA system disk, Windows has his own SATA drivers so there is no problem but on redhat 9 you have to use only IDE disk as a system disk, or if you have Red hat exterprise edition 3.0 then you can try installing it See if this helps you Sujitkumar Shirkar >From: "Aggrawal, Mohit" >Reply-To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >To: "Andrew Turnbull" ,"Getting started with Red Hat >Linux" >Subject: RE: problem in installing >Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:56:12 +0530 > >MB is INTEL 915 GVM and I have not got any disk or software with SATA HD >Windows XP is working fine with standard driver ..the problem is only >with red hat Linux 9. > >-----Original Message----- >From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Andrew >Turnbull >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:43 PM >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >Subject: Re: problem in installing > >On 6/15/05, Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: > > > > > > Hello Friends > > > > I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 drive that is connected with >a > > serial cable to the MB. > > > > When I start the Red Hat 9 installation the software tells me it cant >detect > > any HDD. > > > > I have looked for drivers and help on the net, no go. Has someone had >the > > same problem, how can I fix it? > > > > Please let me know I'm desperate. > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards > > > > Mohit > > > > > > >Hi > >What Motherboard is it ? >What SATA Controller do you have ? > >Thanks > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Having a hard time finding a job? http://creative.mediaturf.net/creatives/timesjobs/hotmail_TOL.htm Log on to TimesJobs.com Click Now! From sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com Wed Jun 15 13:52:16 2005 From: sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com (Sujitkumar Shirkar) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:52:16 +0000 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050614215159d4f50c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello firends I am having a workstation with redhat 9.0 and on board network card, i am trying to install additional network card as eth1 but for some strange reason its not allowing me to do so, I think many of you might have this problem installing 2 or more network card in red hat 9 please advise me Sujitkumar Shirkar >From: Mark Knecht >Reply-To: Mark Knecht ,Getting started with Red Hat >Linux >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >Subject: Re: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers >Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:51:13 -0700 > >On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > > Wow thank you so much! > > > > I think I'm going to follow you advice about PS/2. If > > I change USB to PS/2 do I still have to get into the > > setup mode and enable/disable legacy USB? > >Maybe yes, maybe no. The 'crash' can come at multiple places. It may >be crashing (hanging) when it's trying to discover the USB controller >itself, or it may be crashing when it's trying to decide what to do >with a specific USB decide. I don't know how to tell. > >Another trick you might try is to download another distro's Live CD. >Possibly a copy of Knoppix would boot and tell you something about the >hardware and what drivers are getting loaded. It would also tell you >if the hardware in this machine is well supported and whether this is >an FC3 problem only. > >Now, when I buy new PCs at the store I take 3 or 4 boot CDs - Knoppix, >Damn Small Linux, Gentoo, etc., and make sure the PC will boot on of >them. It's a good feeling to know what you're in store for when you >get home. > >Good luck, >Mark >(Signing out for the evening.) > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Claim your space online! http://www.msn.co.in/spaces Share your world for free! From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 13:54:33 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:54:33 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050614215159d4f50c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050615031442.GA14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5bdc1c8b050614215159d4f50c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050615065451804712@mail.gmail.com> On 6/14/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > > Wow thank you so much! > > > > I think I'm going to follow you advice about PS/2. If > > I change USB to PS/2 do I still have to get into the > > setup mode and enable/disable legacy USB? > > Maybe yes, maybe no. The 'crash' can come at multiple places. It may > be crashing (hanging) when it's trying to discover the USB controller > itself, or it may be crashing when it's trying to decide what to do > with a specific USB decide. I don't know how to tell. I was sleppy! That should ve been 'device', not 'decide'! > > Another trick you might try is to download another distro's Live CD. > Possibly a copy of Knoppix would boot and tell you something about the > hardware and what drivers are getting loaded. It would also tell you > if the hardware in this machine is well supported and whether this is > an FC3 problem only. > > Now, when I buy new PCs at the store I take 3 or 4 boot CDs - Knoppix, > Damn Small Linux, Gentoo, etc., and make sure the PC will boot on of > them. It's a good feeling to know what you're in store for when you > get home. > > Good luck, > Mark > (Signing out for the evening.) > Let us know how it's going Leila. Good luck, Mark From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 15 14:19:51 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:19:51 -0500 Subject: problem in Xserver In-Reply-To: <8A6EB6A72A5C774C8814DDC1501FC90E5AEAD7@exch-01.noida.hcltech.com> References: <8A6EB6A72A5C774C8814DDC1501FC90E5AEAD7@exch-01.noida.hcltech.com> Message-ID: <20050615141951.GA3305@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:04:18PM +0530, Jaspratap Singh Brar, Noida wrote: > Hi all, > > I am user of red hat Linux 2.4 > > My UI are not properly installed and I am getting message INIT:Id "X" > respawning too fast:disabled for 5 minutes > > Could any one please tell me the solution I think this covers it: http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#x_fails > Jaspratap Singh Brar > > HCL Technologies,NOIDA Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 15 14:24:21 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:24:21 -0500 Subject: Linux PC Audit Tool In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050615142421.GB3305@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:15:52PM +0530, Harihar Dash wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a pc audit tool which can show me details about > hardware and software installed on the pc. I am getting the tool for > windows version but for Linux I am not getting any stuff. > > Could any one explore the options? > > Thanks, > Harihar I don't know where it is on your menu system, but "hwbrowser" will probably do what you want. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 14:50:56 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050615065451804712@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050615145056.28520.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/14/05, Mark Knecht > wrote: > > On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin > wrote: > > > > > > Wow thank you so much! > > > > > > I think I'm going to follow you advice about > PS/2. If > > > I change USB to PS/2 do I still have to get into > the > > > setup mode and enable/disable legacy USB? > > > > Maybe yes, maybe no. The 'crash' can come at > multiple places. It may > > be crashing (hanging) when it's trying to discover > the USB controller > > itself, or it may be crashing when it's trying to > decide what to do > > with a specific USB decide. I don't know how to > tell. > > I was sleppy! That should ve been 'device', not > 'decide'! > > > > Another trick you might try is to download another > distro's Live CD. > > Possibly a copy of Knoppix would boot and tell you > something about the > > hardware and what drivers are getting loaded. It > would also tell you > > if the hardware in this machine is well supported > and whether this is > > an FC3 problem only. > > > > Now, when I buy new PCs at the store I take 3 or 4 > boot CDs - Knoppix, > > Damn Small Linux, Gentoo, etc., and make sure the > PC will boot on of > > them. It's a good feeling to know what you're in > store for when you > > get home. > > > > Good luck, > > Mark > > (Signing out for the evening.) > > > > Let us know how it's going Leila. > > Good luck, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > I am very seriously grateful to all of you, So far I am only sure of one thing to do. I am going to convert the USB connection to a PS/2 type connection. That is easy enough for me to do. However I suspect that will not be the end of the troubles. Then I have to figure out how to tell the kernel that it has what it needs. So, [here come the question], what do I need to do after physically changing the connection? What parameters or options do I need to change in what files to pass that information to the kernel? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 15:16:04 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615145056.28520.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050615151604.96219.qmail@web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Leila Lappin wrote: > > > --- Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On 6/14/05, Mark Knecht > > wrote: > > > On 6/14/05, Leila Lappin > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow thank you so much! > > > > > > > > I think I'm going to follow you advice about > > PS/2. If > > > > I change USB to PS/2 do I still have to get > into > > the > > > > setup mode and enable/disable legacy USB? > > > > > > Maybe yes, maybe no. The 'crash' can come at > > multiple places. It may > > > be crashing (hanging) when it's trying to > discover > > the USB controller > > > itself, or it may be crashing when it's trying > to > > decide what to do > > > with a specific USB decide. I don't know how to > > tell. > > > > I was sleppy! That should ve been 'device', not > > 'decide'! > > > > > > Another trick you might try is to download > another > > distro's Live CD. > > > Possibly a copy of Knoppix would boot and tell > you > > something about the > > > hardware and what drivers are getting loaded. It > > would also tell you > > > if the hardware in this machine is well > supported > > and whether this is > > > an FC3 problem only. > > > > > > Now, when I buy new PCs at the store I take 3 or > 4 > > boot CDs - Knoppix, > > > Damn Small Linux, Gentoo, etc., and make sure > the > > PC will boot on of > > > them. It's a good feeling to know what you're in > > store for when you > > > get home. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > Mark > > > (Signing out for the evening.) > > > > > > > Let us know how it's going Leila. > > > > Good luck, > > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > I am very seriously grateful to all of you, > > So far I am only sure of one thing to do. I am > going > to convert the USB connection to a PS/2 type > connection. That is easy enough for me to do. > However > I suspect that will not be the end of the troubles. > Then I have to figure out how to tell the kernel > that > it has what it needs. So, [here come the question], > what do I need to do after physically changing the > connection? What parameters or options do I need to > change in what files to pass that information to the > kernel? > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > The mystery deepens, It turns out I have PS/2 connection for my keyboard and mouse. If the problem is incompatibility between kernel options and the device type then it must not in the physical device but in the setup parameters. Any ideas? Have I misunderstood something? __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 15:29:19 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:29:19 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615151604.96219.qmail@web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050615145056.28520.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20050615151604.96219.qmail@web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050615082977263023@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > The mystery deepens, > > It turns out I have PS/2 connection for my keyboard > and mouse. If the problem is incompatibility between > kernel options and the device type then it must not in > the physical device but in the setup parameters. Any > ideas? Have I misunderstood something? > Leila, Please clearify. Does this mean that you have a keyboard that has a USB connector at the end of the cable, and you have been plugging it in up until now to a USB port, but the keyboard is also supplied with a little USB to PS/2 converter to allow you to plug it into the PS/2 keyboard port, and that after changing to that configuration you are still seeing the same problem? If so then the next question just exactly how far are you getting during the install boot. I just grabbed an FC3 install disk. I put it in an older machine and start booing. The installation stuff comes up and I can choose 5 pages of info using F1-F5. Do you get that far? If not let us know. If you get that far then you look at F2 for options. There aren't many listed, but the ones that are look reasonable. Try booting with linux text noprobe and see what results you have. this should disable ALL hardware probing and jsut try to boot the kernel. If your basic hardware - keyboard and VGA - are simple and compliant, then it should boot. (I hope!) Good luck, Mark From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 15 15:36:56 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:36:56 -0500 Subject: How to recover for booting Windows CD and Windows partitions? In-Reply-To: <000001c57197$a7c19810$0200a8c0@ust.hk> References: <000001c57197$a7c19810$0200a8c0@ust.hk> Message-ID: <20050615153656.GC3305@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:47:33PM +0800, Andrew Tsang wrote: > I original have 3 Windows XP (different languages) respectively in > partition hda1 (1st partition), hda3, and hda4. Partition hda2 was > empty. So you had primary partitions 1, 3, and 4. Was all the hard disk covered by those three? > I then repartitioned hda2 to become 3 consecutive partitions & > the previous partition hda3 & hda4 became hda5 and hda6 but there was no > change with the actual disk location where the 3 Windows partitions > resided. Ok, now I'm unclear. Is hda2 an extended partition covering the space formerly owned by hda3 and 4, and what else? What became of the entries for hda3 and hda4? What else does hda2 cover? > Then I installed Red Hat Linux with /boot in hda2, That won't work if hda2 is an extended partition. > swap in hda3 > & / in hda4. I used Grub to configure for multiple boot during the > installation. After installation (without error), I was able to boot > Linux and Windows XP of hda1 (the 1st partition). But when I booted the > Windows XP of either partition hda5 or hda6, booting failed and the > following error message was displayed: > > "The following file is damaged or missing, unable to boot Windows: > \system32\hal.dll ...." > > I tried to recover from the Windows XP installation CD, but I was unable > to boot the CD (booting of the CD works on another PC). When the PC > displayed "Hit any key to boot from CD ..", I hit ENTER and it displayed > "Setup is inspecting your hardware configuration", then screen blanked > and the PC hung. I needed to reset the PC and the same process repeated. > Booting of the Linux installation CD is fine. Note that the Windows XP > installation CDs booted well before the Linux installation. > > How can I recover the boot record (or something else) so that I can boot > from the Windows Installation CD as well as the 2 Windows XP in > partition hda5 & hda6? > > > --Andrew Tsang Could you please post your current partition table? That would help me. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 16:08:55 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050615082977263023@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050615160855.57083.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > The mystery deepens, > > > > It turns out I have PS/2 connection for my > keyboard > > and mouse. If the problem is incompatibility > between > > kernel options and the device type then it must > not in > > the physical device but in the setup parameters. > Any > > ideas? Have I misunderstood something? > > > > Leila, > Please clearify. Does this mean that you have a > keyboard that has a > USB connector at the end of the cable, and you have > been plugging it > in up until now to a USB port, but the keyboard is > also supplied with > a little USB to PS/2 converter to allow you to plug > it into the PS/2 > keyboard port, and that after changing to that > configuration you are > still seeing the same problem? > > If so then the next question just exactly how far > are you getting > during the install boot. I just grabbed an FC3 > install disk. I put it > in an older machine and start booing. The > installation stuff comes up > and I can choose 5 pages of info using F1-F5. Do you > get that far? If > not let us know. > > If you get that far then you look at F2 for > options. There aren't > many listed, but the ones that are look reasonable. > Try booting with > > linux text noprobe > > and see what results you have. this should disable > ALL hardware > probing and jsut try to boot the kernel. If your > basic hardware - > keyboard and VGA - are simple and compliant, then it > should boot. (I > hope!) > > Good luck, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Mark, I?ll do as best as I can to answer your questions regarding the connection. If your find my answer is incomplete please let me know and then I?ll get someone with more hardware background to help me figure out the complete answer. Both my keyboard and mouse are Microsoft. They are connected, straight from the device to the CP, with a PS/2 connector. I verified what a PS/2 connector looks like by checking some picture on the Internet (I?m not trying to be funny or pathetic just precise). The connector looks round has six pins and three groves around the perimeter. > If you get that far then you look at F2 for > options. There aren't > many listed, but the ones that are look reasonable. > Try booting with > > linux text noprobe > I do get this far. So I guess you are saying where it say "boot" ( on the first screen under the line with function key options) I should type "linux text noprobe". I'll try that next. Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 16:13:54 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615160855.57083.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050615161354.15570.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Leila Lappin wrote: > > > --- Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin > wrote: > > > > > The mystery deepens, > > > > > > It turns out I have PS/2 connection for my > > keyboard > > > and mouse. If the problem is incompatibility > > between > > > kernel options and the device type then it must > > not in > > > the physical device but in the setup parameters. > > > Any > > > ideas? Have I misunderstood something? > > > > > > > Leila, > > Please clearify. Does this mean that you have a > > keyboard that has a > > USB connector at the end of the cable, and you > have > > been plugging it > > in up until now to a USB port, but the keyboard is > > also supplied with > > a little USB to PS/2 converter to allow you to > plug > > it into the PS/2 > > keyboard port, and that after changing to that > > configuration you are > > still seeing the same problem? > > > > If so then the next question just exactly how > far > > are you getting > > during the install boot. I just grabbed an FC3 > > install disk. I put it > > in an older machine and start booing. The > > installation stuff comes up > > and I can choose 5 pages of info using F1-F5. Do > you > > get that far? If > > not let us know. > > > > If you get that far then you look at F2 for > > options. There aren't > > many listed, but the ones that are look > reasonable. > > Try booting with > > > > linux text noprobe > > > > and see what results you have. this should disable > > ALL hardware > > probing and jsut try to boot the kernel. If your > > basic hardware - > > keyboard and VGA - are simple and compliant, then > it > > should boot. (I > > hope!) > > > > Good luck, > > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > Mark, > > I?ll do as best as I can to answer your questions > regarding the connection. If your find my answer is > incomplete please let me know and then I?ll get > someone with more hardware background to help me > figure out the complete answer. > > Both my keyboard and mouse are Microsoft. They are > connected, straight from the device to the CP, with > a > PS/2 connector. I verified what a PS/2 connector > looks like by checking some picture on the Internet > (I?m not trying to be funny or pathetic just > precise). > The connector looks round has six pins and three > groves around the perimeter. > > > If you get that far then you look at F2 for > > options. There aren't > > many listed, but the ones that are look > reasonable. > > Try booting with > > > > linux text noprobe > > > > I do get this far. So I guess you are saying where > it > say "boot" ( on the first screen under the line with > function key options) I should type "linux text > noprobe". I'll try that next. > > Thanks > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Spelling error correction. > Both my keyboard and mouse are Microsoft. They are > connected, straight from the device to the CP, with > a > PS/2 connector. Sorry I meant to say CPU, with a PS/2 connector __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 16:32:28 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:32:28 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615160855.57083.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5bdc1c8b050615082977263023@mail.gmail.com> <20050615160855.57083.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061509324e521d8a@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > Mark, > > I'll do as best as I can to answer your questions > regarding the connection. If your find my answer is > incomplete please let me know and then I'll get > someone with more hardware background to help me > figure out the complete answer. > > Both my keyboard and mouse are Microsoft. They are > connected, straight from the device to the CP, with a > PS/2 connector. I verified what a PS/2 connector > looks like by checking some picture on the Internet > (I'm not trying to be funny or pathetic just precise). > The connector looks round has six pins and three > groves around the perimeter. This should be OK, presuming the computer is pretty normal. I'm sure it si. > > > If you get that far then you look at F2 for > > options. There aren't > > many listed, but the ones that are look reasonable. > > Try booting with > > > > linux text noprobe > > > > I do get this far. So I guess you are saying where it > say "boot" ( on the first screen under the line with > function key options) I should type "linux text > noprobe". I'll try that next. > Yes, type linux text or linux text noprobe and see what happens. Let up know. you could also try linux text noacpi etc., etc., etc. and use other options there. This is what I've had to do when I had a machine that wouldn't boot. I warn you that my one serious attempt to use FC3 on a strange SiS chipset machine never worked and I had to fall back to FC2. That machine hung at boot time and I never figured it out. I sincerly hope you are more lucky. Good luck, Mark From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 16:42:32 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615160855.57083.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050615164232.21196.qmail@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Leila Lappin wrote: > > > --- Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin > wrote: > > > > > The mystery deepens, > > > > > > It turns out I have PS/2 connection for my > > keyboard > > > and mouse. If the problem is incompatibility > > between > > > kernel options and the device type then it must > > not in > > > the physical device but in the setup parameters. > > > Any > > > ideas? Have I misunderstood something? > > > > > > > Leila, > > Please clearify. Does this mean that you have a > > keyboard that has a > > USB connector at the end of the cable, and you > have > > been plugging it > > in up until now to a USB port, but the keyboard is > > also supplied with > > a little USB to PS/2 converter to allow you to > plug > > it into the PS/2 > > keyboard port, and that after changing to that > > configuration you are > > still seeing the same problem? > > > > If so then the next question just exactly how > far > > are you getting > > during the install boot. I just grabbed an FC3 > > install disk. I put it > > in an older machine and start booing. The > > installation stuff comes up > > and I can choose 5 pages of info using F1-F5. Do > you > > get that far? If > > not let us know. > > > > If you get that far then you look at F2 for > > options. There aren't > > many listed, but the ones that are look > reasonable. > > Try booting with > > > > linux text noprobe > > > > and see what results you have. this should disable > > ALL hardware > > probing and jsut try to boot the kernel. If your > > basic hardware - > > keyboard and VGA - are simple and compliant, then > it > > should boot. (I > > hope!) > > > > Good luck, > > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > Mark, > > I?ll do as best as I can to answer your questions > regarding the connection. If your find my answer is > incomplete please let me know and then I?ll get > someone with more hardware background to help me > figure out the complete answer. > > Both my keyboard and mouse are Microsoft. They are > connected, straight from the device to the CP, with > a > PS/2 connector. I verified what a PS/2 connector > looks like by checking some picture on the Internet > (I?m not trying to be funny or pathetic just > precise). > The connector looks round has six pins and three > groves around the perimeter. > > > If you get that far then you look at F2 for > > options. There aren't > > many listed, but the ones that are look > reasonable. > > Try booting with > > > > linux text noprobe > > > > I do get this far. So I guess you are saying where > it > say "boot" ( on the first screen under the line with > function key options) I should type "linux text > noprobe". I'll try that next. > > Thanks > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Mark, I followed your suggestion and typed ?linux text noprobe? at the boot prompt. This time the process went one step further a dialogue box opened up with the option to start a CD media check or skip it. The problem is that the keyboard did not work. So the box stays on that first question until it gets faded out. So now we know for sure what the problem is, the boot kernel does not recognize any input from the keyboard. This might be too big a problem for me to solve. I would love to upgrade to Fedora but I don't want to be a pest (in this mailing list), especially if the problem is such that cannot be fixed without a closer look. Your feed back as to whether I should continue or not is much appreciated. Leila __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 16:54:19 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:54:19 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615164232.21196.qmail@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050615160855.57083.qmail@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20050615164232.21196.qmail@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050615095438c81580@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > Mark, > > I followed your suggestion and typed "linux text > noprobe" at the boot prompt. > > This time the process went one step further a dialogue > box opened up with the option to start a CD media > check or skip it. The problem is that the keyboard > did not work. So the box stays on that first question > until it gets faded out. So now we know for sure what > the problem is, the boot kernel does not recognize any > input from the keyboard. Can you steal a keyboard from another PC for a few moments? If it's another Linux PC you can usually just unplug it, use it, then plug it back in, but it's better if you have some old, spare keyboard to try this with. > > This might be too big a problem for me to solve. I > would love to upgrade to Fedora but I don't want to be > a pest (in this mailing list), especially if the > problem is such that cannot be fixed without a closer > look. Your feed back as to whether I should continue > or not is much appreciated. > Nah, don't worry about that. As someone who has pestered this and other lists for years it's the nature of the beast and we'd like to see you get running. What is that specific machine running currently? An earlier Fedora Core or something else. (Or nothing since it's new.) cheers, Mark From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 17:32:51 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050615095438c81580@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050615173251.81216.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > I followed your suggestion and typed "linux text > > noprobe" at the boot prompt. > > > > This time the process went one step further a > dialogue > > box opened up with the option to start a CD media > > check or skip it. The problem is that the > keyboard > > did not work. So the box stays on that first > question > > until it gets faded out. So now we know for sure > what > > the problem is, the boot kernel does not recognize > any > > input from the keyboard. > > Can you steal a keyboard from another PC for a few > moments? If it's > another Linux PC you can usually just unplug it, use > it, then plug it > back in, but it's better if you have some old, spare > keyboard to try > this with. > > > > > This might be too big a problem for me to solve. > I > > would love to upgrade to Fedora but I don't want > to be > > a pest (in this mailing list), especially if the > > problem is such that cannot be fixed without a > closer > > look. Your feed back as to whether I should > continue > > or not is much appreciated. > > > > Nah, don't worry about that. As someone who has > pestered this and > other lists for years it's the nature of the beast > and we'd like to > see you get running. > > What is that specific machine running currently? An > earlier Fedora > Core or something else. (Or nothing since it's new.) > > cheers, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Mark, Right now my machine is running Redhat 9. It's stable and has everything I need. But I want to upgrade because I look forward to installing PHP5, which is object oriented and superior to PHP4. However, I just came across a discussion nothing that PHP5 is not part of the official Fedora core 3 but is planned to be part of a later Fedora release. So now with this news and your warning in mind, that you never got Fedora 3 working, I'm thinking may be I should just wait for a later Fedora core, may be version 4. The challenge I?m looking forward to is programming object oriented with PHP5, I really don?t know how to tell the install kernel to behave and take note of the keyboard:^)) __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 15 17:43:29 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:43:29 -0700 Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <20050615173251.81216.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5bdc1c8b050615095438c81580@mail.gmail.com> <20050615173251.81216.qmail@web30809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061510434c3326b3@mail.gmail.com> On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > Mark, > > Right now my machine is running Redhat 9. It's stable > and has everything I need. But I want to upgrade > because I look forward to installing PHP5, which is > object oriented and superior to PHP4. However, I just > came across a discussion nothing that PHP5 is not part > of the official Fedora core 3 but is planned to be > part of a later Fedora release. So now with this news > and your warning in mind, that you never got Fedora 3 > working, I'm thinking may be I should just wait for a > later Fedora core, may be version 4. That might make sense. If FC3 isn't easy to install and won't do what you need then why bother.? > > The challenge I'm looking forward to is programming > object oriented with PHP5, I really don't know how to > tell the install kernel to behave and take note of the > keyboard:^)) > Yes, this one has seemed pretty difficult. Like I said, you might want to download some other Live CDs - Gentoo, Knoppix, etc., and jsut see if they boot. You don't have to install anything. I guess my thought is that you wait for FC4/FC5, etc., and then they still don't boot, and you don't know what to do. Maybe a little more study and a couple of cheap CDs right now will save yolu some pain later? Whatever you do, we're here to help, or maybe as in this case, just keep you company. ;-) cheers, Mark From damovand at yahoo.com Wed Jun 15 17:53:22 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upgrade from Redhat 9 to Fedora Core 3 - Search for answers In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05061510434c3326b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050615175322.62498.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/15/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > Right now my machine is running Redhat 9. It's > stable > > and has everything I need. But I want to upgrade > > because I look forward to installing PHP5, which > is > > object oriented and superior to PHP4. However, I > just > > came across a discussion nothing that PHP5 is not > part > > of the official Fedora core 3 but is planned to be > > part of a later Fedora release. So now with this > news > > and your warning in mind, that you never got > Fedora 3 > > working, I'm thinking may be I should just wait > for a > > later Fedora core, may be version 4. > > That might make sense. If FC3 isn't easy to install > and won't do what > you need then why bother.? > > > > > The challenge I'm looking forward to is > programming > > object oriented with PHP5, I really don't know how > to > > tell the install kernel to behave and take note of > the > > keyboard:^)) > > > > Yes, this one has seemed pretty difficult. Like I > said, you might want > to download some other Live CDs - Gentoo, Knoppix, > etc., and jsut see > if they boot. You don't have to install anything. I > guess my thought > is that you wait for FC4/FC5, etc., and then they > still don't boot, > and you don't know what to do. Maybe a little more > study and a couple > of cheap CDs right now will save yolu some pain > later? > > Whatever you do, we're here to help, or maybe as in > this case, just > keep you company. ;-) > > cheers, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Thank you so very much, I am going to take your advice and continue the research to see what I can learn. You?re right this has been an education. I never knew there was so much dependency between the kernel and the peripheral devices. I guess the members of this list will continue to hear my confused babblings for a while longer. In the meantime if any one knows of some good reference like ?Linux under the hood for dummies ? or something like that please refer me to it ;-) Leila __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ From ccandrew at ust.hk Wed Jun 15 18:24:10 2005 From: ccandrew at ust.hk (Andrew Tsang) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:24:10 +0800 Subject: How to recover for booting Windows CD and Windows partitions? In-Reply-To: <000001c57197$a7c19810$0200a8c0@ust.hk> Message-ID: <000001c571d7$707a7cb0$0200a8c0@ust.hk> Sorry for the confusion. I shouldn't use hda1, hda2, hda3, .. as my own naming to represent consecutive partition 1, 2, 3, .. as I was thinking of simplifying the description. The disk actually has more than that & I'll describe again using Linux device/partition name according to the partition table listed below: Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 2551 9728 57657285 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 2551 2567 136521 83 Linux /dev/hda6 2568 2600 265041 82 Linux swap /dev/hda7 2601 4972 19053058+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8 4973 7394 19454683+ e W95 FAT16 (LBA) /dev/hda9 7395 8560 9365863+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda10 8561 9728 9381928+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda1, /dev/hda9, & /dev/hda10 originally contain WinXP (English, Traditional Chinese, & Simplified Chinese respectively). /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6, & /dev/hda7 was original a single partition before Linux installation, and I booted WinXP installation CD to repartition it to become 3 partitions for /boot, swap, and /. Locations, sizes, and contents of all other partitions remain unchanged. /dev/hda8 is an empty partition. After Linux installation, I can still boot WinXP from /dev/hda1 but the other 2 WinXPs are not bootable although I can verify from the bootable WinXP of the 1st partition that the contents are still there. I am also unable to boot the WinXP installation CD which I previously used for partitioning, although it can be read after WinXP of the 1st partition is booted and it can also be booted at another PC. >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:47:33PM +0800, Andrew Tsang wrote: >> I original have 3 Windows XP (different languages) respectively in >> partition hda1 (1st partition), hda3, and hda4. Partition hda2 was >> empty. > >So you had primary partitions 1, 3, and 4. Was all the hard disk >covered by those three? > >> I then repartitioned hda2 to become 3 consecutive partitions & >> the previous partition hda3 & hda4 became hda5 and hda6 but there was no >> change with the actual disk location where the 3 Windows partitions >> resided. > >Ok, now I'm unclear. Is hda2 an extended partition covering the space >formerly owned by hda3 and 4, and what else? > >What became of the entries for hda3 and hda4? > >What else does hda2 cover? > >> Then I installed Red Hat Linux with /boot in hda2, > >That won't work if hda2 is an extended partition. > >> swap in hda3 >> & / in hda4. I used Grub to configure for multiple boot during the >> installation. After installation (without error), I was able to boot >> Linux and Windows XP of hda1 (the 1st partition). But when I booted the >> Windows XP of either partition hda5 or hda6, booting failed and the >> following error message was displayed: >> >> "The following file is damaged or missing, unable to boot Windows: >> \system32\hal.dll ...." >> >> I tried to recover from the Windows XP installation CD, but I was unable >> to boot the CD (booting of the CD works on another PC). When the PC >> displayed "Hit any key to boot from CD ..", I hit ENTER and it displayed >> "Setup is inspecting your hardware configuration", then screen blanked >> and the PC hung. I needed to reset the PC and the same process repeated. >> Booting of the Linux installation CD is fine. Note that the Windows XP >> installation CDs booted well before the Linux installation. >> >> How can I recover the boot record (or something else) so that I can boot >> from the Windows Installation CD as well as the 2 Windows XP in >> partition hda5 & hda6? >> >> >> --Andrew Tsang > >Could you please post your current partition table? That would help >me. > >Cheers, >-- >Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >robertmcclure earthlink net http://www.bobcatos.com >God is more interested in our availability than our ability. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 15 18:39:26 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:39:26 -0700 Subject: Keeping track of config file changes In-Reply-To: <20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42B075DE.40600@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:57:10PM -0700, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > >>What's the best way to keep track of all the config file changes I've made >>over the years? I think it's kind of a lost cause on my existing machine, >>but on the next one I'd like to quickly find the changes so when I do an >>update of something that requires a new config, I can put the changes back >>in. I'm thinking of putting something unique on each line I change, then >>doing a big grep. I use CVS to track my own code, but it seems a bit >>unwieldy for this application. Any suggestions? > > > RCS comes to mind. Uh, CVS (RCS' big brother). Comes with Fedora/RH. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 15 18:43:02 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:43:02 -0700 Subject: problem in installing In-Reply-To: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FED2EDF4@inhyms21.ca.com> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FED2EDF4@inhyms21.ca.com> Message-ID: <42B076B6.5050704@vitalstream.com> Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: > Hello Friends > > I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 drive that is connected with a > serial cable to the MB. > > When I start the Red Hat 9 installation the software tells me it cant > detect any HDD. > > I have looked for drivers and help on the net, no go. Has someone had > the same problem, how can I fix it? RH9 doesn't support SATA drives. RH9 has also been dead for over two years. Try using Fedora Core 3 or Fedora Core 4, both of which have SATA support. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Millihelen, adj: The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Jun 15 19:04:59 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Keeping track of config file changes In-Reply-To: <42B075DE.40600@vitalstream.com> References: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org><20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42B075DE.40600@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <51935.207.177.227.29.1118862299.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> I'm currently using CVS to keep track of code on various microcontroller projects. Should I just create a "project" for all my config files and import them into CVS when I start modifying them? Is anyone doing something like this? Over the years, I end up with LOTS of modified configs scattered around the system. How do you keep track of them? Harold > Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:57:10PM -0700, Harold Hallikainen wrote: >> >>>What's the best way to keep track of all the config file changes I've >>> made >>>over the years? I think it's kind of a lost cause on my existing >>> machine, >>>but on the next one I'd like to quickly find the changes so when I do an >>>update of something that requires a new config, I can put the changes >>> back >>>in. I'm thinking of putting something unique on each line I change, then >>>doing a big grep. I use CVS to track my own code, but it seems a bit >>>unwieldy for this application. Any suggestions? >> >> >> RCS comes to mind. > > Uh, CVS (RCS' big brother). Comes with Fedora/RH. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 15 19:52:04 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:52:04 -0700 Subject: Keeping track of config file changes In-Reply-To: <51935.207.177.227.29.1118862299.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org><20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42B075DE.40600@vitalstream.com> <51935.207.177.227.29.1118862299.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <42B086E4.3070000@vitalstream.com> Harold Hallikainen wrote: > I'm currently using CVS to keep track of code on various microcontroller > projects. Should I just create a "project" for all my config files and > import them into CVS when I start modifying them? Is anyone doing > something like this? Over the years, I end up with LOTS of modified > configs scattered around the system. How do you keep track of them? We prefer bottom-posting here, Harold. You can create a "module" for tracking this stuff, but it can get gronchy. What I typically do is use version numbers as filetypes and use a symlink to point at the active one. For example: [root at prophead samba]# ls -l smb.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 3 10:18 smb.conf.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 4 14:28 smb.conf.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 10 16:42 smb.conf.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 22 12:20 smb.conf.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 23 13:10 smb.conf.5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 24 11:22 smb.conf.6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Apr 27 11:23 smb.conf -> smb.conf.6 It can be ugly, but it works. That's one thing I miss from the old VAX/VMS filesystem...automatic versioning. Of course, for commonly- modified files you eventually had to do a "purge/keep=n" to get rid of the old versions. >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:57:10PM -0700, Harold Hallikainen wrote: >>> >>> >>>>What's the best way to keep track of all the config file changes I've >>>>made >>>>over the years? I think it's kind of a lost cause on my existing >>>>machine, >>>>but on the next one I'd like to quickly find the changes so when I do an >>>>update of something that requires a new config, I can put the changes >>>>back >>>>in. I'm thinking of putting something unique on each line I change, then >>>>doing a big grep. I use CVS to track my own code, but it seems a bit >>>>unwieldy for this application. Any suggestions? >>> >>> >>>RCS comes to mind. >> >>Uh, CVS (RCS' big brother). Comes with Fedora/RH. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Polygon: A dead parrot (With apologies to John Cleese) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Jun 15 20:24:25 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Keeping track of config file changes In-Reply-To: <42B086E4.3070000@vitalstream.com> References: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org><20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42B075DE.40600@vitalstream.com><51935.207.177.227.29.1118862299.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <42B086E4.3070000@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <52636.207.177.227.29.1118867065.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> > Harold Hallikainen wrote: >> I'm currently using CVS to keep track of code on various microcontroller >> projects. Should I just create a "project" for all my config files and import them into CVS when I start modifying them? Is anyone doing something like this? Over the years, I end up with LOTS of modified configs scattered around the system. How do you keep track of them? > > We prefer bottom-posting here, Harold. > > You can create a "module" for tracking this stuff, but it can get gronchy. What I typically do is use version numbers as filetypes and use a symlink to point at the active one. For example: > > [root at prophead samba]# ls -l smb.conf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 3 10:18 smb.conf.1 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 4 14:28 smb.conf.2 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 10 16:42 smb.conf.3 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 22 12:20 smb.conf.4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 23 13:10 smb.conf.5 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 24 11:22 smb.conf.6 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Apr 27 11:23 smb.conf -> smb.conf.6 > > It can be ugly, but it works. That's one thing I miss from the old VAX/VMS filesystem...automatic versioning. Of course, for commonly- modified files you eventually had to do a "purge/keep=n" to get rid of the old versions. Interesting idea... Maybe the current one could just be .conf and keep all the old ones with .n . Another thing I want to do is to quickly find ALL the config files I've modified. I guess I could throw something unique into the backup file names (ie, smb.conf.6.HH). I just tried that, expecting ls -R *.HH to find it, but it doesn't unless the file is in my current directory. What do I do to find files named *.HH anywhere on the system? THANKS! Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 15 21:02:26 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:02:26 -0700 Subject: Keeping track of config file changes In-Reply-To: <52636.207.177.227.29.1118867065.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> References: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org><20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42B075DE.40600@vitalstream.com><51935.207.177.227.29.1118862299.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <42B086E4.3070000@vitalstream.com> <52636.207.177.227.29.1118867065.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> Message-ID: <42B09762.70101@vitalstream.com> Harold Hallikainen wrote: >>Harold Hallikainen wrote: >> >>>I'm currently using CVS to keep track of code on various > > microcontroller > >>>projects. Should I just create a "project" for all my config files and > > import them into CVS when I start modifying them? Is anyone doing > something like this? Over the years, I end up with LOTS of modified > configs scattered around the system. How do you keep track of them? > >>We prefer bottom-posting here, Harold. >> >>You can create a "module" for tracking this stuff, but it can get > > gronchy. What I typically do is use version numbers as filetypes and > use a symlink to point at the active one. For example: > >> [root at prophead samba]# ls -l smb.conf >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 3 10:18 smb.conf.1 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 4 14:28 smb.conf.2 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Mar 10 16:42 smb.conf.3 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 22 12:20 smb.conf.4 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 23 13:10 smb.conf.5 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 793 Apr 24 11:22 smb.conf.6 >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Apr 27 11:23 smb.conf -> smb.conf.6 >> >>It can be ugly, but it works. That's one thing I miss from the old > > VAX/VMS filesystem...automatic versioning. Of course, for commonly- > modified files you eventually had to do a "purge/keep=n" to get rid of > the old versions. > > > Interesting idea... Maybe the current one could just be .conf and keep all > the old ones with .n . Another thing I want to do is to quickly find ALL > the config files I've modified. I guess I could throw something unique > into the backup file names (ie, smb.conf.6.HH). I just tried that, > expecting ls -R *.HH to find it, but it doesn't unless the file is in my > current directory. What do I do to find files named *.HH anywhere on the > system? Try: find / -name "*.HH" -print ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ccandrew at ust.hk Thu Jun 16 11:16:17 2005 From: ccandrew at ust.hk (Andrew Tsang) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:16:17 +0800 Subject: How to recover for booting Windows CD and Windows partitions? In-Reply-To: <000001c571d7$707a7cb0$0200a8c0@ust.hk> Message-ID: <000001c57264$d0ca1d90$0200a8c0@ust.hk> I've figured out the problem of booting the 2 WinXP at the last 2 partitions. Since the partition numbers of these 2 WinXP had increased by 2 after I created the Linux partitions, changing c:\boot.ini to make the 2 corresponding boot entries referencing the new partition numbers resolves the problem. However, I am still unable to boot from any WinXP Installation CD. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Tsang [mailto:ccandrew at ust.hk] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:24 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Cc: 'Andrew Tsang' Subject: RE: How to recover for booting Windows CD and Windows partitions? Sorry for the confusion. I shouldn't use hda1, hda2, hda3, .. as my own naming to represent consecutive partition 1, 2, 3, .. as I was thinking of simplifying the description. The disk actually has more than that & I'll describe again using Linux device/partition name according to the partition table listed below: Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 2551 9728 57657285 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 2551 2567 136521 83 Linux /dev/hda6 2568 2600 265041 82 Linux swap /dev/hda7 2601 4972 19053058+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8 4973 7394 19454683+ e W95 FAT16 (LBA) /dev/hda9 7395 8560 9365863+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda10 8561 9728 9381928+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda1, /dev/hda9, & /dev/hda10 originally contain WinXP (English, Traditional Chinese, & Simplified Chinese respectively). /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6, & /dev/hda7 was original a single partition before Linux installation, and I booted WinXP installation CD to repartition it to become 3 partitions for /boot, swap, and /. Locations, sizes, and contents of all other partitions remain unchanged. /dev/hda8 is an empty partition. After Linux installation, I can still boot WinXP from /dev/hda1 but the other 2 WinXPs are not bootable although I can verify from the bootable WinXP of the 1st partition that the contents are still there. I am also unable to boot the WinXP installation CD which I previously used for partitioning, although it can be read after WinXP of the 1st partition is booted and it can also be booted at another PC. >On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 06:47:33PM +0800, Andrew Tsang wrote: >> I original have 3 Windows XP (different languages) respectively in >> partition hda1 (1st partition), hda3, and hda4. Partition hda2 was >> empty. > >So you had primary partitions 1, 3, and 4. Was all the hard disk >covered by those three? > >> I then repartitioned hda2 to become 3 consecutive partitions & >> the previous partition hda3 & hda4 became hda5 and hda6 but there was no >> change with the actual disk location where the 3 Windows partitions >> resided. > >Ok, now I'm unclear. Is hda2 an extended partition covering the space >formerly owned by hda3 and 4, and what else? > >What became of the entries for hda3 and hda4? > >What else does hda2 cover? > >> Then I installed Red Hat Linux with /boot in hda2, > >That won't work if hda2 is an extended partition. > >> swap in hda3 >> & / in hda4. I used Grub to configure for multiple boot during the >> installation. After installation (without error), I was able to boot >> Linux and Windows XP of hda1 (the 1st partition). But when I booted the >> Windows XP of either partition hda5 or hda6, booting failed and the >> following error message was displayed: >> >> "The following file is damaged or missing, unable to boot Windows: >> \system32\hal.dll ...." >> >> I tried to recover from the Windows XP installation CD, but I was unable >> to boot the CD (booting of the CD works on another PC). When the PC >> displayed "Hit any key to boot from CD ..", I hit ENTER and it displayed >> "Setup is inspecting your hardware configuration", then screen blanked >> and the PC hung. I needed to reset the PC and the same process repeated. >> Booting of the Linux installation CD is fine. Note that the Windows XP >> installation CDs booted well before the Linux installation. >> >> How can I recover the boot record (or something else) so that I can boot >> from the Windows Installation CD as well as the 2 Windows XP in >> partition hda5 & hda6? >> >> >> --Andrew Tsang > >Could you please post your current partition table? That would help >me. > >Cheers, >-- >Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >robertmcclure earthlink net http://www.bobcatos.com >God is more interested in our availability than our ability. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 16 17:47:54 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:47:54 -0700 Subject: How to recover for booting Windows CD and Windows partitions? In-Reply-To: <000001c57264$d0ca1d90$0200a8c0@ust.hk> References: <000001c57264$d0ca1d90$0200a8c0@ust.hk> Message-ID: <42B1BB4A.8080806@vitalstream.com> Andrew Tsang wrote: > I?ve figured out the problem of booting the 2 WinXP at the last 2 > partitions. Since the partition numbers of these 2 WinXP had increased > by 2 after I created the Linux partitions, changing c:\boot.ini to make > the 2 corresponding boot entries referencing the new partition numbers > resolves the problem. However, I am still unable to boot from any WinXP > Installation CD. We prefer bottom posting here, Andrew. Please try to comply if you can. You have to set your BIOS to try to boot the CD BEFORE the hard drive. I typically have the boot order set to: floppy CD/DVD USB flash drive hard drive The idea is to have the system try removable media first before the hard disk. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never try to outstubborn a cat. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 18:11:00 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:11:00 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> Hi, What tools do people find most simple/fast/fool-proof for cloning a drive, and expecially cloning a boot partition? I've got a small system with an 8GB drive but only about 2.5GB on the system. There is a boot partition, swap and root. I'd like to clone this drive three times to larger 80GB drives. I can boot the system with a LiveCD or the FC2 CD in resuce mode which should make the existing drive just storage and copyable. It would be perfect if the clone did NOT use the additional drive space since I'd like to make this a new partition on the new machines. Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 16 19:54:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:54:05 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42B1D8DD.2040003@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > What tools do people find most simple/fast/fool-proof for cloning a > drive, and expecially cloning a boot partition? I've got a small > system with an 8GB drive but only about 2.5GB on the system. There is > a boot partition, swap and root. I'd like to clone this drive three > times to larger 80GB drives. Do you mean make three copies on the 80GB drive? That could suck up a lot of your partitions. > I can boot the system with a LiveCD or the FC2 CD in resuce mode > which should make the existing drive just storage and copyable. It > would be perfect if the clone did NOT use the additional drive space > since I'd like to make this a new partition on the new machines. If you're doing the three copies on one drive, I'd set it up with one boot partition (make it a primary, e.g. hda1), one swap (could be in an extended partition, e.g. hda5) and three root partitions (also could be in the extended partition, e.g. hda6, hda7 and hda8). Use fdisk to set those up, then use "cp -a" to copy the root stuff over to the three new root partitions. You can't use "dd" as that would do a block-for-block copy and your geometries aren't even close to the same. You'd then need to edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to set the "root=" bits on the kernel lines to point at the right places. NOTE: DO NOT RELY ON FILESYSTEM LABELS in grub.conf or any of the /etc/fstab files--use the device names. Failure to do so will probably cause you much grief and may lead to suicidal feelings. :-D ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Whoever said "Money can't buy friends" obviously never brought - - donuts to the office. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 20:04:06 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:04:06 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <42B1D8DD.2040003@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <42B1D8DD.2040003@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061613044b45b9c2@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > > What tools do people find most simple/fast/fool-proof for cloning a > > drive, and expecially cloning a boot partition? I've got a small > > system with an 8GB drive but only about 2.5GB on the system. There is > > a boot partition, swap and root. I'd like to clone this drive three > > times to larger 80GB drives. > > Do you mean make three copies on the 80GB drive? That could suck up a > lot of your partitions. No - sorry for any confusion. As I said "clone this drive three times to larger 80GB drives" and not "clone this drive three times to a larger 80GB drive" A few weeks ago I purchased an Asus Pundit-R for use as a MythTV frontend. It's up and running fine using a very old 8GB drive. This week I purchased 3 more to go in other rooms and other houses but I had to buy drives this time so I got 80GB drives for each machine. I want each machine to start life this afternoon as a copy of the one that's been running for a few weeks already. > > > I can boot the system with a LiveCD or the FC2 CD in resuce mode > > which should make the existing drive just storage and copyable. It > > would be perfect if the clone did NOT use the additional drive space > > since I'd like to make this a new partition on the new machines. > > If you're doing the three copies on one drive, I'd set it up with one > boot partition (make it a primary, e.g. hda1), one swap (could be in an > extended partition, e.g. hda5) and three root partitions (also could be > in the extended partition, e.g. hda6, hda7 and hda8). Use fdisk to set > those up, then use "cp -a" to copy the root stuff over to the three new > root partitions. You can't use "dd" as that would do a block-for-block > copy and your geometries aren't even close to the same. You'd then need > to edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to set the "root=" bits on the > kernel lines to point at the right places. > OK, so this addresses how I can do it. (Don't use dd.) That's fine. But what I really want to do is make the boot partition on each drive bootable, put grub on it and make the master boot records identical. (I think.) Therefore my unclear question from before was really 'how do I clone the boot partition on a working 8GB drive onto a new unused 80GB drive?' I could also just install grub by hand, somehow, but I was hoping to get the drive completely ready before I ever power the machine up since the new machines have no CDROM drives... Sorry if this is confusing. Thanks, Mark From lotto.kim at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 20:11:39 2005 From: lotto.kim at gmail.com (Kim johansen) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:11:39 +0200 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > What tools do people find most simple/fast/fool-proof for cloning a > drive, and expecially cloning a boot partition? I've got a small > system with an 8GB drive but only about 2.5GB on the system. There is > a boot partition, swap and root. I'd like to clone this drive three > times to larger 80GB drives. You can use dd, feks: $ dd if=/dev/hda of=image_hda.iso and move this image to the new harddisk, importing it with: $ cat image_hda.iso > /dev/hda i have never tryed it, but i think it gonna work, but, somthing you need to think about, the partitions will have the same size. -- Kim Johansen lotto.kim at gmail.com From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 20:27:03 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:27:03 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/05, Kim johansen wrote: > On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > > What tools do people find most simple/fast/fool-proof for cloning a > > drive, and expecially cloning a boot partition? I've got a small > > system with an 8GB drive but only about 2.5GB on the system. There is > > a boot partition, swap and root. I'd like to clone this drive three > > times to larger 80GB drives. > > You can use dd, feks: > $ dd if=/dev/hda of=image_hda.iso > > and move this image to the new harddisk, importing it with: > $ cat image_hda.iso > /dev/hda > > i have never tryed it, but i think it gonna work, but, somthing you > need to think about, the partitions will have the same size. > > -- > Kim Johansen > lotto.kim at gmail.com > Kim, Thanks. That's an interesting idea. However where is of=image_hda.iso getting stored? The drive I'm cloning is the only drive in the system. Would it be possible to put the two commands together somehow? I've just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed to allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. (We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that the EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. Would something like this work? dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda Having the partition sizes identical is perfect for my needs. This would leave the last 72GB unpartitioned and I could use it for video storage on the network. Thanks, Mark From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Thu Jun 16 20:28:20 2005 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:28:20 -0500 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05061613044b45b9c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <42B1D8DD.2040003@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b05061613044b45b9c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1118953700.3602.1.camel@c515816-a> On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 13:04 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 6/16/05, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > Hi, > > > What tools do people find most simple/fast/fool-proof for cloning a > > > drive, and expecially cloning a boot partition? I've got a small > > > system with an 8GB drive but only about 2.5GB on the system. There is > > > a boot partition, swap and root. I'd like to clone this drive three > > > times to larger 80GB drives. > > > > Do you mean make three copies on the 80GB drive? That could suck up a > > lot of your partitions. > > No - sorry for any confusion. As I said > > "clone this drive three times to larger 80GB drives" > > and not > > "clone this drive three times to a larger 80GB drive" > > A few weeks ago I purchased an Asus Pundit-R for use as a MythTV > frontend. It's up and running fine using a very old 8GB drive. This > week I purchased 3 more to go in other rooms and other houses but I > had to buy drives this time so I got 80GB drives for each machine. I > want each machine to start life this afternoon as a copy of the one > that's been running for a few weeks already. > > > > > > I can boot the system with a LiveCD or the FC2 CD in resuce mode > > > which should make the existing drive just storage and copyable. It > > > would be perfect if the clone did NOT use the additional drive space > > > since I'd like to make this a new partition on the new machines. > > > > If you're doing the three copies on one drive, I'd set it up with one > > boot partition (make it a primary, e.g. hda1), one swap (could be in an > > extended partition, e.g. hda5) and three root partitions (also could be > > in the extended partition, e.g. hda6, hda7 and hda8). Use fdisk to set > > those up, then use "cp -a" to copy the root stuff over to the three new > > root partitions. You can't use "dd" as that would do a block-for-block > > copy and your geometries aren't even close to the same. You'd then need > > to edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file to set the "root=" bits on the > > kernel lines to point at the right places. > > > > OK, so this addresses how I can do it. (Don't use dd.) That's fine. > But what I really want to do is make the boot partition on each drive > bootable, put grub on it and make the master boot records identical. > (I think.) Therefore my unclear question from before was really 'how > do I clone the boot partition on a working 8GB drive onto a new unused > 80GB drive?' > > I could also just install grub by hand, somehow, but I was hoping to > get the drive completely ready before I ever power the machine up > since the new machines have no CDROM drives... > > Sorry if this is confusing. > > Thanks, > Mark > having never done this and only offering a suggestion and not knowing whether it will work or not, but it seems to me that parted does this as i remember and very easily. I completely disavow this help. LOL From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 20:32:06 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:32:06 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <1118953700.3602.1.camel@c515816-a> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <42B1D8DD.2040003@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b05061613044b45b9c2@mail.gmail.com> <1118953700.3602.1.camel@c515816-a> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061613327ea253ec@mail.gmail.com> On 6/16/05, Otto Haliburton wrote: > > > having never done this and only offering a suggestion and not knowing > whether it will work or not, but it seems to me that parted does this as > i remember and very easily. I completely disavow this help. LOL > > Thanks Otto - I'll have to see which of my Live CDs that's on. Cheers, Mark From linuxr at gmail.com Thu Jun 16 20:27:43 2005 From: linuxr at gmail.com (Marc M) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:27:43 -0400 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You can use dd, feks: > $ dd if=/dev/hda of=image_hda.iso >>As long as you use the bs=whatever size you should be able to get it to work by either matching the size you are copying from, or specifying a larger block size. dd has a lot of options, also don't forget dcfldd. Sounds pretty hairy though. If I were gonna do that I would do a grub reinstall, use the cp command and use vi to edit whatever I needed to edit, but that is just my approach. Marc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would > something like this work? > > dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda > Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 Without this piece of hardware I have no way to attach the new hard drive to the working machine to do the clone. Back to the drawing board. I guess I'll have to temporarily put a CDROM in the new machines so that I can boot them normally. If that works then maybe I'll do the dd work over the network. Disappointing. thanks all, Mark From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Jun 17 02:20:43 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:20:43 -0700 Subject: Partitioning / LVM Advice RHEL4 Message-ID: ________________________________ From: Marc M [mailto:linuxr at gmail.com] Sent: Thu 6/16/2005 2:01 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux; For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Partitioning / LVM Advice RHEL4 Hi, I am setting up a Dell poweredge box with two 70 g hard drives. The default LVM partition has one / with everything in it, and two volume groups, one for each scsi drive. Since I havent put the machine in production yet, I am wondering if I should manually reduce the one from 70 to about 40, and save off about 30 GB? This will be running one application, nothing else to speak of, but I am a bit paranoid about log files filling up partitions and the like, especially on a server running an app like this day in and day out. I am also paranoid about having one big / Also I am wondering if mirroring is something I should even consider. I don't think we need anywhere NEAR 140 gigs. Maybe I could just make manual copies of certain files and leave them on my 'extra' 30 GB partition. If anyone has a good general 'rules of thumb' type link or paper please share. Thanks Marc ---------------------------------------- Here's an example of one of my systems: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/vg00/lvol1 2.0G 312M 1.6G 17% / /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 483M 20M 439M 5% /boot /dev/vg00/lvol2 496M 8.1M 463M 2% /home none 1007M 0 1007M 0% /dev/shm /dev/vg00/lvol6 2.0G 33M 1.9G 2% /tmp /dev/vg00/lvol7 6.9G 1.9G 4.8G 28% /usr /dev/vg00/lvol4 2.0G 87M 1.8G 5% /var /dev/vg00/lvol5 2.0G 33M 1.9G 2% /var/adm We ahve only been using 36GB drives, and don't even utilize all of that space. From harold at hallikainen.com Fri Jun 17 03:37:15 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 20:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Keeping track of config file changes In-Reply-To: <42B09762.70101@vitalstream.com> References: <1164.192.168.1.1.1118804230.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org><20050615032001.GB14837@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42B075DE.40600@vitalstream.com><51935.207.177.227.29.1118862299.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <42B086E4.3070000@vitalstream.com><52636.207.177.227.29.1118867065.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> <42B09762.70101@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1168.192.168.1.1.1118979435.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> >> Interesting idea... Maybe the current one could just be .conf and keep >> all >> the old ones with .n . Another thing I want to do is to quickly find ALL >> the config files I've modified. I guess I could throw something unique >> into the backup file names (ie, smb.conf.6.HH). I just tried that, >> expecting ls -R *.HH to find it, but it doesn't unless the file is in my >> current directory. What do I do to find files named *.HH anywhere on the >> system? > > Try: > > find / -name "*.HH" -print > Works great! THANKS! I'll start keeping my modified configs that way. Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sat Jun 18 03:54:06 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:54:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: >>I've >> just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed to >> allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. >> (We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that the >> EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. Would >> something like this work? >> >> dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda >> > > Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got > from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't backward compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to work. That's a bite in the backside. Good luck with the network solution. Too bad you can't just plug in an unused PC temporarilly... Karl > > Without this piece of hardware I have no way to attach the new hard > drive to the working machine to do the clone. > > Back to the drawing board. I guess I'll have to temporarily put a > CDROM in the new machines so that I can boot them normally. If that > works then maybe I'll do the dd work over the network. Disappointing. > > thanks all, > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From ciril at hclinsys.com Sat Jun 18 04:15:49 2005 From: ciril at hclinsys.com (CIRIL IGNATIOUS T) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 09:45:49 +0530 Subject: Installation problem with Intel Chilito2 Raid controller Message-ID: <42B39FF5.1050000@hclinsys.com> Dear All I have a intel SE7520AF2 server with 2 GB RAM .I am using intel Chilito2 (SRCU42X ) raid card .It is having about 5 SCSI harddisks of 146 GB each.I have made a logical drive of capacity 100GB in Raid 5. Now I installed Redhat Advanced Server 3.0 update2 ( 32bit) on the server.Installation completed successfully.But when I am trying to boot the system after the Grub it is giving one SCSI timeout error and the booting process stops there. Pls help me. Regards Ciril From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 04:31:37 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:31:37 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05061721311369c9ff@mail.gmail.com> On 6/17/05, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got > > from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 > > It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't backward > compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to work. > > That's a bite in the backside. Good luck with the network solution. Too > bad you can't just plug in an unused PC temporarilly... > > Karl > Hi Karl, Well, I've managed to get two of the machines running the good old fashioned way - by building them, but it's cost me far more time than it would have had the USB/EIDE adapter worked. I found one intersting thing. With this small box (Asus Pundit-R) and the Seagate drives I bought I was booting with ide=nodma due to a newish ATI chipset that may or may not be fully supported. Anyway, when I tried to run fdisk and make partitions for installation fdisk failed and I got numerous messages about commands not suported. Weird, right? However I noticed that when I tried to use this USB/EIDE adapter on the same drives I got similar messages whether I had ide=nodma or not. My thought, not well formed, is that with this adapter possibly everything is being turned into non-dma actions over the EIDE bus and that the problems might really be with the drives. I didn't have time to dig deeper into that. I'll have to dig up some different drives and see if I continue to have the same problems. Cheers, Mark From northstarx at hotmail.com Sat Jun 18 10:41:32 2005 From: northstarx at hotmail.com (XxxX AgainAbsent) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:41:32 +0000 Subject: A question please... In-Reply-To: <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, to All i am installing fc3 on my computer for test and it is stakking on the grafical screen. or maybe i need to now haw to switch on runlevel 3 or Text mod ... Best Regards. Nuran. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Jun 18 15:38:43 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:38:43 -0700 Subject: A question please... In-Reply-To: References: <20050615032336.35857.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050618083828464f61@mail.gmail.com> On 6/18/05, XxxX AgainAbsent wrote: > Hi, to All i am installing fc3 on my computer for test and it is stakking on > the grafical screen. > or maybe i need to now haw to switch on runlevel 3 or Text mod ... > > Best Regards. > > Nuran. Nuran, I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you want to install using the text installer? If so, when booting type linux text and the installer will work in text mode isntead of graphical mode. If you have already installed but you don't want the system to come up in graphical mode then you need to edit the /etc/inittab file and change the default runlevel from 5 to 3. hope this helps, Mark From ccandrew at ust.hk Sun Jun 19 10:10:52 2005 From: ccandrew at ust.hk (Andrew Tsang) Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:10:52 +0800 Subject: How to recover for booting Windows CD and Windows partitions? In-Reply-To: <000001c574b3$230b2c70$0200a8c0@ust.hk> Message-ID: <000001c574b7$2cb42d90$0200a8c0@ust.hk> > > Andrew Tsang wrote: > > I've figured out the problem of booting the 2 WinXP at the last 2 > > partitions. Since the partition numbers of these 2 WinXP had increased > > by 2 after I created the Linux partitions, changing c:\boot.ini to make > > the 2 corresponding boot entries referencing the new partition numbers > > resolves the problem. However, I am still unable to boot from any WinXP > > Installation CD. > > Rick Stevens wrote: > We prefer bottom posting here, Andrew. Please try to comply if you can. > > > You have to set your BIOS to try to boot the CD BEFORE the hard drive. > I typically have the boot order set to: > > > floppy > CD/DVD > USB flash drive > hard drive > > > The idea is to have the system try removable media first before the > hard disk. > > My BIOS was always set to boot CD first then Hard Drive, otherwise I would not be able to boot CD for installing my WinXPs & Linux. Seems booting of the WinXP installation CD depends on certain information on the hard drive during the initial stage & such information was overwritten by the Linux installation or Grub. I've tried swapping with another hard drive to test out my WinXP installation CD media & it works fine. My question is how I could recover such information so that I can boot from WinXP installation CD again without affecting all bootable partitions (including Linux). From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Jun 20 18:28:20 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:28:20 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>>I've >>>just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed to >>>allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. >>>(We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that the >>>EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. Would >>>something like this work? >>> >>>dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda >>> >> >>Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got >>from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) >> >>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 > > > It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't backward > compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to work. Uh, USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices if that's what you mean. Note that olders computers can't boot USB devices unless a BIOS update has been performed. Also, USB hard disks show up as SCSI (just like just about everything else that isn't IDE/EIDE/ATA). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The moving cursor writes, and having written, blinks on. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Jun 20 18:32:18 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:32:18 -0700 Subject: How to recover for booting Windows CD and Windows partitions? In-Reply-To: <000001c574b7$2cb42d90$0200a8c0@ust.hk> References: <000001c574b7$2cb42d90$0200a8c0@ust.hk> Message-ID: <42B70BB2.3050700@vitalstream.com> Andrew Tsang wrote: >>>Andrew Tsang wrote: >>>I've figured out the problem of booting the 2 WinXP at the last 2 >>>partitions. Since the partition numbers of these 2 WinXP had > > increased > >>>by 2 after I created the Linux partitions, changing c:\boot.ini to > > make > >>>the 2 corresponding boot entries referencing the new partition > > numbers > >>>resolves the problem. However, I am still unable to boot from any > > WinXP > >>>Installation CD. >> >>Rick Stevens wrote: >>We prefer bottom posting here, Andrew. Please try to comply if you > > can. > >> >>You have to set your BIOS to try to boot the CD BEFORE the hard drive. >>I typically have the boot order set to: >> >> >> floppy >> CD/DVD >> USB flash drive >> hard drive >> >> >>The idea is to have the system try removable media first before the >>hard disk. >> >> > > > My BIOS was always set to boot CD first then Hard Drive, otherwise I > would not be able to boot CD for installing my WinXPs & Linux. Seems > booting of the WinXP installation CD depends on certain information on > the hard drive during the initial stage & such information was > overwritten by the Linux installation or Grub. I've tried swapping with > another hard drive to test out my WinXP installation CD media & it works > fine. My question is how I could recover such information so that I can > boot from WinXP installation CD again without affecting all bootable > partitions (including Linux). If you have a bootable CD in the drive AND the computer tries the CD first, it shouldn't matter what the hard drive has on it--the CD should boot. XP does have certain requirements regarding the manner in which it boots from the hard drive (XP must be in a primary partition), but the CD should boot regardless. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The moving cursor writes, and having written, blinks on. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From damovand at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 20:30:36 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start Message-ID: <20050620203036.73255.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I installed Fedora Core 4 today. But several things failed and one of them may be causing the problem that X server ( graphical interface) is not coming up. I get a dialog box popping up with this message: I cannot start the X server ( your graphical interface). It seems that the pointer device (your mouse) is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem? Now I seem to be in text mode, what do I need to do next? __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 20 20:39:17 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:39:17 -0500 Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620203036.73255.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050620203036.73255.qmail@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050620203917.GA16028@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:30:36PM -0700, Leila Lappin wrote: > I installed Fedora Core 4 today. But several things > failed and one of them may be causing the problem that > X server ( graphical interface) is not coming up. I > get a dialog box popping up with this message: > > I cannot start the X server ( your graphical > interface). It seems that the pointer device (your > mouse) is not set up correctly. Would you like to > view the X server output to diagnose the problem? > > Now I seem to be in text mode, what do I need to do > next? I've not yet seen FC4, but in FC3, the command to run is system-config-mouse Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From damovand at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 20:48:54 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620203917.GA16028@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050620204854.43601.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:30:36PM -0700, Leila > Lappin wrote: > > I installed Fedora Core 4 today. But several > things > > failed and one of them may be causing the problem > that > > X server ( graphical interface) is not coming up. > I > > get a dialog box popping up with this message: > > > > I cannot start the X server ( your graphical > > interface). It seems that the pointer device > (your > > mouse) is not set up correctly. Would you like to > > view the X server output to diagnose the problem? > > > > Now I seem to be in text mode, what do I need to > do > > next? > > I've not yet seen FC4, but in FC3, the command to > run is > > system-config-mouse > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God is more interested in our availability than our > ability. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Hi, Thanks for your help. I did what you suggested. A dialog box popped up to choose the mouse type. The right one was highlighted so I just pressed pf12 to move to the next screen. The dialog box went away. Two lines of diagnostics are showing on the console: Shutting down console mouse services: ok Starting console mouse services: ok What should I do now? ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Jun 20 21:00:12 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:00:12 -0700 Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620204854.43601.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050620203917.GA16028@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050620204854.43601.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050620140011b6241c@mail.gmail.com> On 6/20/05, Leila Lappin wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your help. I did what you suggested. A > dialog box popped up to choose the mouse type. The > right one was highlighted so I just pressed pf12 to > move to the next screen. The dialog box went away. > Two lines of diagnostics are showing on the console: > > Shutting down console mouse services: ok > Starting console mouse services: ok > > What should I do now? > Somehow this doesn't sound like it's going to produce the correct results. If it did you should be able to start X now. Either reboot or log in as a user and from the command line type startx The real issue, I think, is what is listed for the mouse in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Look in there for an "InputDevice" section that's defining your mouse. Assuming a PS2 mouse try setting the Protocol to either IMPS/2 or PS/2 and try setting the Device to /dev/input/mice which is now a pretty generic setting under udev. After making those changes try running startx again. Good luck, Mark From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 20 21:06:18 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:06:18 -0500 Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620204854.43601.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050620203917.GA16028@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050620204854.43601.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050620210618.GA16937@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:48:54PM -0700, Leila Lappin wrote: > > --- Bob McClure Jr > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:30:36PM -0700, Leila > > Lappin wrote: > > > I installed Fedora Core 4 today. But several > > things > > > failed and one of them may be causing the problem > > that > > > X server ( graphical interface) is not coming up. > > I > > > get a dialog box popping up with this message: > > > > > > I cannot start the X server ( your graphical > > > interface). It seems that the pointer device > > (your > > > mouse) is not set up correctly. Would you like to > > > view the X server output to diagnose the problem? > > > > > > Now I seem to be in text mode, what do I need to > > do > > > next? > > > > I've not yet seen FC4, but in FC3, the command to > > run is > > > > system-config-mouse > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > Hi, > > Thanks for your help. I did what you suggested. A > dialog box popped up to choose the mouse type. The > right one was highlighted so I just pressed pf12 to > move to the next screen. The dialog box went away. > Two lines of diagnostics are showing on the console: > > Shutting down console mouse services: ok > Starting console mouse services: ok > > What should I do now? Try running X from the command line using startx If the GUI comes up successfully, exit it. If it doesn't, you may need to run system-config-display Then, check to see if you are still configured for runlevel 5 (GUI login) by fgrep initdefault /etc/inittab If it says id:3:initdefault: edit that file and change that line to say id:5:initdefault: Then reboot and the GUI login should come up. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From damovand at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 21:18:19 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620210618.GA16937@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050620211819.1839.qmail@web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:48:54PM -0700, Leila > Lappin wrote: > > > > --- Bob McClure Jr > > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:30:36PM -0700, Leila > > > Lappin wrote: > > > > I installed Fedora Core 4 today. But several > > > things > > > > failed and one of them may be causing the > problem > > > that > > > > X server ( graphical interface) is not coming > up. > > > I > > > > get a dialog box popping up with this message: > > > > > > > > I cannot start the X server ( your graphical > > > > interface). It seems that the pointer device > > > (your > > > > mouse) is not set up correctly. Would you > like to > > > > view the X server output to diagnose the > problem? > > > > > > > > Now I seem to be in text mode, what do I need > to > > > do > > > > next? > > > > > > I've not yet seen FC4, but in FC3, the command > to > > > run is > > > > > > system-config-mouse > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -- > > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for your help. I did what you suggested. > A > > dialog box popped up to choose the mouse type. > The > > right one was highlighted so I just pressed pf12 > to > > move to the next screen. The dialog box went away. > > > Two lines of diagnostics are showing on the > console: > > > > Shutting down console mouse services: ok > > Starting console mouse services: ok > > > > What should I do now? > > Try running X from the command line using > > startx > > If the GUI comes up successfully, exit it. If it > doesn't, you may > need to run > > system-config-display > > Then, check to see if you are still configured for > runlevel 5 (GUI > login) by > > fgrep initdefault /etc/inittab > > If it says > > id:3:initdefault: > > edit that file and change that line to say > > id:5:initdefault: > > Then reboot and the GUI login should come up. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God is more interested in our availability than our > ability. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > While I was waiting for some more clues I did the following, I ran startx but got the following messages (do these give any clues what to do?): (==) Log file: ?/var/log/Xorg.0.log?, Time: Mon Jun 20 17:09:42 2005 (==) Using config file: ?/etc/X11/xorg.conf? (EE) R128(0): No DFP detected (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/mouse No such fie or directory (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device ?Mouse0? No core pointer Fatal server error: Failed to initialize core devices Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support At http://wiki.X.Org For help. Please also check the log file at ?/var/log/Xorg.0.log? for additional information. X10: fatal 10 error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ?;0.0? after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 20 21:45:09 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:45:09 -0500 Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620211819.1839.qmail@web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050620210618.GA16937@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050620211819.1839.qmail@web30811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050620214509.GB18727@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:18:19PM -0700, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > --- Bob McClure Jr > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:48:54PM -0700, Leila > > Lappin wrote: > > > > > > --- Bob McClure Jr > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:30:36PM -0700, Leila > > > > Lappin wrote: > > > > > I installed Fedora Core 4 today. But several > > > > things > > > > > failed and one of them may be causing the > > problem > > > > that > > > > > X server ( graphical interface) is not coming > > up. > > > > I > > > > > get a dialog box popping up with this message: > > > > > > > > > > I cannot start the X server ( your graphical > > > > > interface). It seems that the pointer device > > > > (your > > > > > mouse) is not set up correctly. Would you > > like to > > > > > view the X server output to diagnose the > > problem? > > > > > > > > > > Now I seem to be in text mode, what do I need > > to > > > > do > > > > > next? > > > > > > > > I've not yet seen FC4, but in FC3, the command > > to > > > > run is > > > > > > > > system-config-mouse > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Thanks for your help. I did what you suggested. > > A > > > dialog box popped up to choose the mouse type. > > The > > > right one was highlighted so I just pressed pf12 > > to > > > move to the next screen. The dialog box went away. > > > > > Two lines of diagnostics are showing on the > > console: > > > > > > Shutting down console mouse services: ok > > > Starting console mouse services: ok > > > > > > What should I do now? > > > > Try running X from the command line using > > > > startx > > > > If the GUI comes up successfully, exit it. If it > > doesn't, you may > > need to run > > > > system-config-display > > > > Then, check to see if you are still configured for > > runlevel 5 (GUI > > login) by > > > > fgrep initdefault /etc/inittab > > > > If it says > > > > id:3:initdefault: > > > > edit that file and change that line to say > > > > id:5:initdefault: > > > > Then reboot and the GUI login should come up. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > > Inc. > > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > > God is more interested in our availability than our > > ability. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > While I was waiting for some more clues I did the > following, I ran startx but got the following messages > (do these give any clues what to do?): > > > > (==) Log file: ?/var/log/Xorg.0.log?, Time: Mon Jun > 20 17:09:42 2005 > (==) Using config file: ?/etc/X11/xorg.conf? > > (EE) R128(0): No DFP detected > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/mouse > No such fie or directory > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit failed for input device ?Mouse0? > No core pointer > > Fatal server error: > Failed to initialize core devices > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > At http://wiki.X.Org > For help. > Please also check the log file at > ?/var/log/Xorg.0.log? for additional information. > X10: fatal 10 error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on > X server ?;0.0? after 0 requests (0 known processed) > with 0 events remaining. Did you try running system-config-display If that doesn't work, try system-config-display --reconfig The right mouse info needs to get plugged into the xorg.conf file. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From damovand at yahoo.com Mon Jun 20 21:55:38 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620214509.GB18727@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <20050620215538.23921.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:18:19PM -0700, Leila > Lappin wrote: > > > > > > --- Bob McClure Jr > > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:48:54PM -0700, Leila > > > Lappin wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Bob McClure Jr > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 01:30:36PM -0700, > Leila > > > > > Lappin wrote: > > > > > > I installed Fedora Core 4 today. But > several > > > > > things > > > > > > failed and one of them may be causing the > > > problem > > > > > that > > > > > > X server ( graphical interface) is not > coming > > > up. > > > > > I > > > > > > get a dialog box popping up with this > message: > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot start the X server ( your > graphical > > > > > > interface). It seems that the pointer > device > > > > > (your > > > > > > mouse) is not set up correctly. Would you > > > like to > > > > > > view the X server output to diagnose the > > > problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I seem to be in text mode, what do I > need > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > next? > > > > > > > > > > I've not yet seen FC4, but in FC3, the > command > > > to > > > > > run is > > > > > > > > > > system-config-mouse > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > -- > > > > > Bob McClure, Jr. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help. I did what you > suggested. > > > A > > > > dialog box popped up to choose the mouse type. > > > > The > > > > right one was highlighted so I just pressed > pf12 > > > to > > > > move to the next screen. The dialog box went > away. > > > > > > > Two lines of diagnostics are showing on the > > > console: > > > > > > > > Shutting down console mouse services: ok > > > > Starting console mouse services: ok > > > > > > > > What should I do now? > > > > > > Try running X from the command line using > > > > > > startx > > > > > > If the GUI comes up successfully, exit it. If > it > > > doesn't, you may > > > need to run > > > > > > system-config-display > > > > > > Then, check to see if you are still configured > for > > > runlevel 5 (GUI > > > login) by > > > > > > fgrep initdefault /etc/inittab > > > > > > If it says > > > > > > id:3:initdefault: > > > > > > edit that file and change that line to say > > > > > > id:5:initdefault: > > > > > > Then reboot and the GUI login should come up. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -- > > > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open > Systems, > > > Inc. > > > robertmcclure at earthlink.net > http://www.bobcatos.com > > > God is more interested in our availability than > our > > > ability. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message > to: > > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > While I was waiting for some more clues I did the > > following, I ran startx but got the following > messages > > (do these give any clues what to do?): > > > > > > > > (==) Log file: ?/var/log/Xorg.0.log?, Time: Mon > Jun > > 20 17:09:42 2005 > > (==) Using config file: ?/etc/X11/xorg.conf? > > > > (EE) R128(0): No DFP detected > > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/mouse > > No such fie or directory > > (EE) Mouse0: cannot open input device > > (EE) PreInit failed for input device ?Mouse0? > > No core pointer > > > > Fatal server error: > > Failed to initialize core devices > > > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > > At http://wiki.X.Org > > For help. > > Please also check the log file at > > ?/var/log/Xorg.0.log? for additional information. > > X10: fatal 10 error 104 (Connection reset by peer) > on > > X server ?;0.0? after 0 requests (0 known > processed) > > with 0 events remaining. > > Did you try running > > system-config-display > > If that doesn't work, try > > system-config-display --reconfig > > The right mouse info needs to get plugged into the > xorg.conf file. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God is more interested in our availability than our > ability. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Thank you so much for your help. I ran the command and it worked. But as I log off and reboot I see a number of other errors. I tried writing them down as they scroll quickly: The following is a few of them. NFS locking : failed Ipchain incompatible with kernel sytem logger failed Also after the desktop comes up I get the message that a number of icons cannot be loaded. Actually I got a very detail message saying that the location of the desktop directory has changed in GNOM 2.4. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 20 22:22:09 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:22:09 -0500 Subject: Help needed Fedora Core 4 install problem, X server does not start In-Reply-To: <20050620215538.23921.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050620214509.GB18727@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <20050620215538.23921.qmail@web30815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050620222209.GB19367@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 02:55:38PM -0700, Leila Lappin wrote: > > > > Thank you so much for your help. I ran the command > and it worked. But as I log off and reboot I see a > number of other errors. I tried writing them down as > they scroll quickly: No need to write. That stuff should be found in /var/log/messages. > The following is a few of them. > > NFS locking : failed If you don't need to make any of your filesystems available to your LAN, you can turn it off to stop the yipe: service nfs stop chkconfig nfs off The "service" command will fail if the service never started. Don't worry about it. > Ipchain incompatible with kernel ipchains is obsolete. Turn it off the same way: service ipchains stop chkconfig ipchains off If you need a firewall, turn on iptables. See if it's already set to come on: chkconfig --list iptables If it says iptables 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off you're good. If not, run chkconfig iptables on service iptables start You may still need to configure what to let in, if any. > sytem logger failed That's fairly critical. See if it's currently running with service syslog status If it's stopped, try service syslog start If it fails to come up, it should cough up some error. If it doesn't there may or may not be some info about it in /var/log/messages. ("May not" because syslog writes several logs in /var/log, including messages - a bit of a Catch-22.) > Also after the desktop comes up I get the message that > a number of icons cannot be loaded. Actually I got > a very detail message saying that the location of the > desktop directory has changed in GNOM 2.4. More clues should be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. One could well say /var/log/ is your friend. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God is more interested in our availability than our ability. From damovand at yahoo.com Tue Jun 21 00:39:29 2005 From: damovand at yahoo.com (Leila Lappin) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What are net-pf-10 and ipv6? Message-ID: <20050621003929.89449.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Could anyone please explain what these two things (net-pf-10, ipv6) are? I found this link explaining how to configure fedora core 4 after installation is done. The recommendation is to add these two lines to my grub.conf: alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off I don?t want to do something if I don?t know the consequences. Thanks in advance for your help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From micros50 at computer.net Tue Jun 21 03:52:47 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:52:47 -0400 Subject: Updating Kernel via "yum" Message-ID: <1119325966.6795.19.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> I have a box here running FC1 and I'd like to upgrade the kernel, i.e. there are some minor issues with the present kernel. Up till know I have updated kernels manually installing the packages and reconfiguring LILO/GRUB to boot in the new kernel. Okay, my question, Can I update the kernel automagically via yum ?? Do I still need to perform any manual steps when updating via yum ?? Anything specific I should watch out for ?? mylar From navin.soni at st.com Tue Jun 21 10:00:08 2005 From: navin.soni at st.com (Navin SONI) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:30:08 +0530 Subject: eth0 nw interface problem Message-ID: <42B7E528.C5C60F0B@st.com> hello all, i recently installed RH9.0 on my new HP-Proliant DL145G2 Server. But the system eth0 interface is not coming up.if i do ifconfig -a command,only lo0 interface comes up. i tried doing ifconfig eth0 up also,but it says no such device. the network card is "Broadcom Netxtreme ethernet BCM5721" Any help in this regard would be apprecible. thanks navin. From digvijoy_chatterjee at infosys.com Tue Jun 21 11:14:26 2005 From: digvijoy_chatterjee at infosys.com (digvijoy Chatterjee) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:44:26 +0530 Subject: eth0 nw interface problem In-Reply-To: <42B7E528.C5C60F0B@st.com> References: <42B7E528.C5C60F0B@st.com> Message-ID: <1119352466.25610.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 15:30, Navin SONI wrote: > hello all, > > i recently installed RH9.0 on my new HP-Proliant DL145G2 Server. > > But the system eth0 interface is not coming up.if i do > > ifconfig -a command,only lo0 interface comes up. > > i tried doing ifconfig eth0 up also,but it says no such device. > > the network card is "Broadcom Netxtreme ethernet BCM5721" > > > Any help in this regard would be apprecible. > > thanks > navin. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > mostly redhat 9.0 wont have a driver for ur card try using RHEL-3 or Fedora core 2,3,4 DigZ Core Solutions Group Linux|Psychedelic Rock|Death **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ***************** This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). 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Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the Infosys e-mail system. ***INFOSYS******** End of Disclaimer ********INFOSYS*** From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Tue Jun 21 17:13:19 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:13:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <35401.207.173.117.242.1119373999.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>>>I've >>>>just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed to >>>>allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. >>>>(We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that the >>>>EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. Would >>>>something like this work? >>>> >>>>dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda >>>> >>> >>>Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got >>>from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) >>> >>>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 >> >> >> It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't >> backward >> compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to >> work. > > Uh, USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices if that's what you mean. Note that > olders computers can't boot USB devices unless a BIOS update has been > performed. Also, USB hard disks show up as SCSI (just like just about > everything else that isn't IDE/EIDE/ATA). I beg to differ. Here at work, we install quite a few USB devices and have too many problems installing USB2.0 devices on PCs with USB1.1 ports/drivers. Yes, USB2.0 is backward compatible, however, USB1.1 isn't forward compatible and on drives we've installed that are addressed to USB2.0 and larger than about 64MB addressable memory, we have significant problems. Of course, I'm talking USB Thumb drives, which we use to backup a very specialized Access DB for our application. My 2 bits (for international folks, 2 bits represents .25 US dollar. There used to be a 12.5 cent piece in the U.S. back in the 1800s) Karl > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - The moving cursor writes, and having written, blinks on. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 21 17:22:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:22:37 -0700 Subject: eth0 nw interface problem In-Reply-To: <1119352466.25610.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <42B7E528.C5C60F0B@st.com> <1119352466.25610.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <42B84CDD.2020604@vitalstream.com> digvijoy Chatterjee wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 15:30, Navin SONI wrote: > >>hello all, >> >>i recently installed RH9.0 on my new HP-Proliant DL145G2 Server. >> >>But the system eth0 interface is not coming up.if i do >> >>ifconfig -a command,only lo0 interface comes up. >> >>i tried doing ifconfig eth0 up also,but it says no such device. >> >>the network card is "Broadcom Netxtreme ethernet BCM5721" >> >> >>Any help in this regard would be apprecible. >> >>thanks >>navin. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe > > > >>mostly redhat 9.0 wont have a driver for ur card try using RHEL-3 or Fedora core 2,3,4 Nope. Broadcom doesn't provide open source drivers for their wireless cards. You need to get ndiswrapper (http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net) which uses the Windows XP driver. Once you've built ndiswrapper, you go find the XP driver's .inf and .sys files on the Windows CD, put them in a directory under Linux and tell ndiswrapper about them. ndiswrapper then uses the XP drivers to drive your card. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 21 17:25:50 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:25:50 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <35401.207.173.117.242.1119373999.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> <35401.207.173.117.242.1119373999.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <42B84D9E.5060202@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> >>>>On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I've >>>>>just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed to >>>>>allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. >>>>>(We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that the >>>>>EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. Would >>>>>something like this work? >>>>> >>>>>dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda >>>>> >>>> >>>>Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got >>> >>>>from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) >>> >>>>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 >>> >>> >>>It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't >>>backward >>>compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to >>>work. >> >>Uh, USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices if that's what you mean. Note that >>olders computers can't boot USB devices unless a BIOS update has been >>performed. Also, USB hard disks show up as SCSI (just like just about >>everything else that isn't IDE/EIDE/ATA). > > > I beg to differ. Here at work, we install quite a few USB devices and have > too many problems installing USB2.0 devices on PCs with USB1.1 > ports/drivers. Yes, USB2.0 is backward compatible, however, USB1.1 isn't > forward compatible and on drives we've installed that are addressed to > USB2.0 and larger than about 64MB addressable memory, we have significant > problems. If you read what I wrote, I said "USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices". I said nothing about 1.1 running 2.0 devices, which it obviously can't. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human. To forgive, a large sum of money is needed. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 21 17:38:11 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:38:11 -0700 Subject: Updating Kernel via "yum" In-Reply-To: <1119325966.6795.19.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> References: <1119325966.6795.19.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: <42B85083.6010709@vitalstream.com> mylar wrote: > I have a box here running FC1 and I'd like to upgrade the kernel, i.e. > there are some minor issues with the present kernel. Up till know I have > updated kernels manually installing the packages and reconfiguring > LILO/GRUB to boot in the new kernel. > > Okay, my question, Can I update the kernel automagically via yum ?? Do I > still need to perform any manual steps when updating via yum ?? Anything > specific I should watch out for ?? You need to delete the "exclude" stuff in /etc/yum.conf, but FC1 has been dead for over a year. There aren't a lot of current updates. FC1 is also a 2.4 kernel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Try to look unimportant. The bad guys may be low on ammo. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br Wed Jun 22 18:36:41 2005 From: rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br (Rodrigo Faria Tavares) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:36:41 -0300 Subject: Red Hat Enterprise Message-ID: <006a01c57759$5780a310$0300a8c0@faria> Hello, I made the download of Red Hat Enteprise 4. I tried install these in AMD 500MHZ Onboard. (fail) When I put the cd in drive happen the initial screen, I write enter, so the machine reboot. In my Pentium IV (offboad) was installed with success. The red hat enterprise nedd a spcecify hardware ? Red Hat have dual boot, with windows ? I know red hat fedora core, but RHEL i have a little knowledge. Rodrigo Faria Tavares e-mail : rodrigofariat at yahoo.com.br Brasil - Belo Horizonte - MG Analista de Suporte Linux _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 22 19:21:57 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:21:57 -0700 Subject: Red Hat Enterprise In-Reply-To: <006a01c57759$5780a310$0300a8c0@faria> References: <006a01c57759$5780a310$0300a8c0@faria> Message-ID: <42B9BA55.3070406@vitalstream.com> Rodrigo Faria Tavares wrote: > Hello, > > I made the download of Red Hat Enteprise 4. > > I tried install these in AMD 500MHZ Onboard. (fail) > > When I put the cd in drive happen the initial screen, I write enter, so > the machine reboot. Do you mean that at the "boot:" prompt, you hit the ENTER key and the machine rebooted? Were there any other messages displayed? > In my Pentium IV (offboad) was installed with success. > > The red hat enterprise nedd a spcecify hardware ? Not particularly. It does require 128MB or more of RAM. It may require more if you do a GUI install, so you may want to try a text-mode install if you have less than 256MB. At the "boot:" prompt, enter "linux text" and see how that goes. > Red Hat have dual boot, with windows ? > > I know red hat fedora core, but RHEL i have a little knowledge. Red Hat Enterprise 4 is based on Fedora Core 2, so if you're familiar with FC2, RHEL4 shouldn't present too many surprises to you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br Wed Jun 22 20:39:10 2005 From: rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br (Rodrigo Faria Tavares) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:39:10 -0300 Subject: Red Hat Enterprise References: <006a01c57759$5780a310$0300a8c0@faria> <42B9BA55.3070406@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <001701c5776a$74741310$0100a8c0@faria> > Do you mean that at the "boot:" prompt, you hit the ENTER key and the > machine rebooted? Were there any other messages displayed? Exactly, no messages display. I think this happen because the hardware, than I have. Att, Rodrigo Faria Tavares Ps : my english isn?t very good _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ From northstarx at hotmail.com Wed Jun 22 22:57:25 2005 From: northstarx at hotmail.com (XxxX AgainAbsent) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:57:25 +0000 Subject: FW: Re: A question please... Message-ID: Hi to all. Mark i have checked this file and there is a one (EE) point (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. but i don`t get it what it means. can you say me something for it. i`m sending the file in addition. Thanks. Cheers. Nuran >From: Mark Knecht >Reply-To: Mark Knecht >To: XxxX AgainAbsent >Subject: Re: FW: Re: A question please... >Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:43:43 -0700 > >If the problem is the system locking up due to graphics adapter issues >then check the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log (or whatever it is called on >your system) to see what's happening. There are probably some error >messages in there. Look for the lines with (EE) for clues. > >Cheers, >Mark > >On 6/18/05, XxxX AgainAbsent wrote: > > Hi and thanks to give me an attention... > > I have already installed the system with the text istaller, but when is > > booting > > there is coming the first screen with groub loader > > and after the some lines coming something graphical and > > there is freezing...and today i have found something stupidly > > by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace after the so much stops giving 2 minutes > > and i have changed it from the runlevel 5 to 3, now i think there is >some > > incompatibilitys with a VGA. > > Thanks a lot... > > Best Regards. > > Nuran. > > > > > > >From: Mark Knecht > > >Reply-To: Mark Knecht ,Getting started with Red >Hat > > >Linux > > >To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > >Subject: Re: A question please... > > >Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:38:43 -0700 > > > > > >On 6/18/05, XxxX AgainAbsent wrote: > > > > Hi, to All i am installing fc3 on my computer for test and it is > > >stakking on > > > > the grafical screen. > > > > or maybe i need to now haw to switch on runlevel 3 or Text mod ... > > > > > > > > Best Regards. > > > > > > > > Nuran. > > > > > >Nuran, > > > I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you want > > >to install using the text installer? If so, when booting type > > > > > >linux text > > > > > >and the installer will work in text mode isntead of graphical mode. > > > > > > If you have already installed but you don't want the system to come > > >up in graphical mode then you need to edit the /etc/inittab file and > > >change the default runlevel from 5 to 3. > > > > > >hope this helps, > > >Mark > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Redhat-install-list mailing list > > >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > >Subject: unsubscribe > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's >FREE! > > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ? get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Xorg.0.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 48515 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 23:37:15 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:37:15 -0700 Subject: FW: Re: A question please... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0506221637104971ca@mail.gmail.com> On 6/22/05, XxxX AgainAbsent wrote: > Hi to all. > Mark i have checked this file and there is a one (EE) point > > (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > > but i don`t get it what it means. can you say me something for it. > i`m sending the file in addition. > Thanks. > > Cheers. > Nuran > Nuran, We prefer bottom posting on this list. Please place your responses at the bottom of a message for improved readability. DRI (Direct Rendering Interface I think) is a means of accelerating video. It is enabled or disabled in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. I suppose you had better post that file back so we can look at your configuration. Basically that file tells X what to do when you start it, and the log file that you sent is the result. DRI working or not working will not stop your machine from being useful. Many of my machines often run without it. Can you please clearly state what problem you are having at this point? What is not working for you? Also, please post back the output of the lsmod command, the lspci command, as well as the contents of your /etc/modprobe.conf file. Thanks, Mark From ceenu99 at rediffmail.com Thu Jun 23 13:55:28 2005 From: ceenu99 at rediffmail.com (srinivas m) Date: 23 Jun 2005 13:55:28 -0000 Subject: Need help to install RHL 6.2 Message-ID: <20050623135528.23409.qmail@webmail52.rediffmail.com> Hi All, As i need to work on libc 6.1, downloaded following ISO Images of Redhat Linux 6.2 fron Redhat ftp site. - redhat-6.2-doc.iso - redhat-6.2-i386.iso - redhat-6.2-srpms.iso Now, how should i procedd further to install RHL 6.2. I am confused about burning the CD's. Will an ISO image boot the system? Which are the first, Second and third cd's in the above listed ISO images. Thanks Ceenu http://hits4pay.com/members/index.cgi?ceenu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Only one CD is required to install the system, and that is redhat-6.2-i386.iso. The other two contain the documentation (you may want it), and the source RPMs (rarely needed). > Thanks > Ceenu Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 23 19:26:00 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:26:00 -0700 Subject: Need help to install RHL 6.2 In-Reply-To: <20050623135528.23409.qmail@webmail52.rediffmail.com> References: <20050623135528.23409.qmail@webmail52.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <42BB0CC8.4090002@vitalstream.com> srinivas m wrote: > Hi All, > As i need to work on libc 6.1, downloaded following ISO Images of Redhat > Linux 6.2 fron Redhat ftp site. > > - redhat-6.2-doc.iso > - redhat-6.2-i386.iso > - redhat-6.2-srpms.iso > > Now, how should i procedd further to install RHL 6.2. > I am confused about burning the CD's. > Will an ISO image boot the system? > Which are the first, Second and third cd's in the above listed ISO images. 6.2? Jeeze! That's been dead for four years! 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You should check with Oracle about that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to moo bovine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mikerault at yahoo.com Fri Jun 24 17:52:39 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Oracle in Linux In-Reply-To: <003101c578d7$8e2d91a0$0300a8c0@faria> Message-ID: <20050624175239.82688.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, it is supported. Mike --- Rodrigo Faria Tavares wrote: > The red hat 4 enteprise run Oracle 9i ? > > Best regards, > > Rodrigo Faria Tavares > e-mail : rodrigofariat at yahoo.com.br > Analista de Suporte Linux > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. > Instale o discador agora! > http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br Fri Jun 24 18:51:57 2005 From: rodrigofariatavares at bol.com.br (Rodrigo Faria Tavares) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:51:57 -0300 Subject: Oracle in Linux References: <20050624175239.82688.qmail@web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01c578ed$dc252010$0300a8c0@faria> Hi Michael, But i have installed RHEL 4.0, when i run the file runInstaller require glibc 2.0, the glibc in RHEL isn?t 2.0 Rodrigo Faria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Ault" To: "Rodrigo Faria Tavares" ; "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Oracle in Linux Yes, it is supported. Mike _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. Instale o discador agora! http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Jun 24 19:31:36 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:31:36 -0700 Subject: Samba problems Message-ID: We have a recent issue with Samba running on EL 3.0. After a few hours or days of Samba being started, it stops responding. Meaning, you try to go to the samba server, say \\server and you get a login prompt back that won't accept a user name and password. If you stop and restart smbd it starts working again. There isn't much for errors, though we are getting a LOT of these: [2005/06/15 11:26:30, 0, pid=3502, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1000) getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected Google hasn't been able to tell me much about that error message. Thanks, Travis From anorder at nordix.nl Fri Jun 24 20:09:17 2005 From: anorder at nordix.nl (Arden B. Norder) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:09:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Samba problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7284135.1119643757993.SLOX.WebMail.wwwrun@mail.nordix.nl> Travis, Are you using Samba as a domain controller or a member server (files and printing)?? Arden On Jun 24, 2005 09:31 PM, "Waldher, Travis R" wrote: > We have a recent issue with Samba running on EL 3.0. > > After a few hours or days of Samba being started, it stops responding. > Meaning, you try to go to the samba server, say \server and you get a > login prompt back that won't accept a user name and password. > > If you stop and restart smbd it starts working again. > > There isn't much for errors, though we are getting a LOT of these: > [2005/06/15 11:26:30, 0, pid=3502, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] > lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1000) > getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected > > Google hasn't been able to tell me much about that error message. > > Thanks, > Travis > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Jun 24 20:29:43 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:29:43 -0700 Subject: Samba problems Message-ID: Just a member server. > -----Original Message----- > From: Arden B. Norder [mailto:anorder at nordix.nl] > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:09 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Samba problems > > Travis, > > Are you using Samba as a domain controller or a member server (files and > printing)?? > > Arden > > On Jun 24, 2005 09:31 PM, "Waldher, Travis R" > > wrote: > > > We have a recent issue with Samba running on EL 3.0. > > > > After a few hours or days of Samba being started, it stops responding. > > Meaning, you try to go to the samba server, say \server and you get a > > login prompt back that won't accept a user name and password. > > > > If you stop and restart smbd it starts working again. > > > > There isn't much for errors, though we are getting a LOT of these: > > [2005/06/15 11:26:30, 0, pid=3502, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] > > lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1000) > > getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected > > > > Google hasn't been able to tell me much about that error message. > > > > Thanks, > > Travis > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Jun 24 20:30:07 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:30:07 -0700 Subject: Samba problems In-Reply-To: <7284135.1119643757993.SLOX.WebMail.wwwrun@mail.nordix.nl> References: <7284135.1119643757993.SLOX.WebMail.wwwrun@mail.nordix.nl> Message-ID: <42BC6D4F.1060301@vitalstream.com> Arden B. Norder wrote: > Travis, > > Are you using Samba as a domain controller or a member server (files and > printing)?? Arden, we prefer bottom-posting here. Travis, make sure your Samba server and your domain controllers have the same date (ideally, run ntpd on both). If the date/time vary too far, the DCs will boot the Samba machines out of the domain rather unceremoniously. > > Arden > > On Jun 24, 2005 09:31 PM, "Waldher, Travis R" > wrote: > > >>We have a recent issue with Samba running on EL 3.0. >> >>After a few hours or days of Samba being started, it stops responding. >>Meaning, you try to go to the samba server, say \server and you get a >>login prompt back that won't accept a user name and password. >> >>If you stop and restart smbd it starts working again. >> >>There isn't much for errors, though we are getting a LOT of these: >>[2005/06/15 11:26:30, 0, pid=3502, effective(0, 0), real(0, 0)] >>lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1000) >> getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected >> >>Google hasn't been able to tell me much about that error message. >> >>Thanks, >>Travis >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Redhat-install-list mailing list >>Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>Subject: unsubscribe >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If the enemy's in range...so are you! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Jun 24 20:35:38 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:35:38 -0700 Subject: Samba problems Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:30 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Samba problems > > Arden B. Norder wrote: > > Travis, > > > > Are you using Samba as a domain controller or a member server (files and > > printing)?? > > Arden, we prefer bottom-posting here. > > Travis, make sure your Samba server and your domain controllers have the > same date (ideally, run ntpd on both). If the date/time vary too far, > the DCs will boot the Samba machines out of the domain rather > unceremoniously. They are within 1 second of eachother. Also to note, the SMB server in question has multiple Ethernet interfaces. From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sat Jun 25 04:43:31 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <42B84D9E.5060202@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> <35401.207.173.117.242.1119373999.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B84D9E.5060202@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <21670.198.60.114.90.1119674611.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>> >>>>>On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I've >>>>>>just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed to >>>>>>allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. >>>>>>(We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that the >>>>>>EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. Would >>>>>>something like this work? >>>>>> >>>>>>dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got >>>> >>>>>from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) >>>> >>>>>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 >>>> >>>> >>>>It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't >>>>backward >>>>compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to >>>>work. >>> >>>Uh, USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices if that's what you mean. Note that >>>olders computers can't boot USB devices unless a BIOS update has been >>>performed. Also, USB hard disks show up as SCSI (just like just about >>>everything else that isn't IDE/EIDE/ATA). >> >> >> I beg to differ. Here at work, we install quite a few USB devices and >> have >> too many problems installing USB2.0 devices on PCs with USB1.1 >> ports/drivers. Yes, USB2.0 is backward compatible, however, USB1.1 isn't >> forward compatible and on drives we've installed that are addressed to >> USB2.0 and larger than about 64MB addressable memory, we have >> significant >> problems. > > If you read what I wrote, I said "USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices". I > said nothing about 1.1 running 2.0 devices, which it obviously can't. Hey, I had a senior moment... I'm 50 now. Aren't I entitled? Okay, I don't believe in entitlements. Now what? Senility? Karl From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Sat Jun 25 04:50:43 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Validating incoming email addresses Message-ID: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> How do I go about blocking incoming email based on validating the sender's email address? I am getting spam email which is from a non-existent email address on my own domain. A look at the header shows it's not from my domain. I expected that. But, the From: field is from my domain (ourldsfamily.com), even down to my server name (moroni.ourldsfamily.com) which NEVER sends email, per se, other than internally as in mail generated by cron jobs. Too much information, but I hope you get the gist of what I need. TIA, Karl From gkettler at gmail.com Sun Jun 26 21:01:51 2005 From: gkettler at gmail.com (Gregory Kettler) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:01:51 -0400 Subject: putting a better kernel on install CD? Message-ID: <8b951429050626140138c91985@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm trying to install RHEL 4 on a new Dell Precision 380, which uses the Intel ICH7 to control the SATA disks. On booting with the disks in AHCI mode*, the installer complains that it cannot find any hard disks and quits. Not time to panic yet. I see that the new kernel 2.6.9-11 adds ICH7 support. I suspect it's not on the install disk I'm using. So, what's the quickest and easiest way to boot with and install this kernel version from the beginning? Do I have to modify the disc 1 ISO to include 2.6.9-11? Or is there already an updated ISO somewhere? * If I switch to something called "combination mode" in the Dell's BIOS, the disks appear as hda and hdb (SATA should be sda and sdb, right?), and I can install and boot. But DMA is disabled (ouch!) and upgrading the kernel to 2.6.9-11 renders the system unbootable (it can't find my LVM volume, which would make sense if the disks are suddenly appearing with a different kind of interface). I might be able to boot by messing around with boot parameters in GRUB, but I think using 2.6.9-11 from the beginning would be the cleaner solution. Thanks for your help, Greg From arun.nale at tcs.com Mon Jun 27 03:05:42 2005 From: arun.nale at tcs.com (arun.nale at tcs.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:35:42 +0530 Subject: 64 bit or 32 bit Message-ID: Is there any command to find out if my RHEL 3.0 is 32-bit or 64-bit. 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Thank you > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > uname -m will show you the machine it is built for uname -a will show all the information available about the build From vputhen at cc.hut.fi Mon Jun 27 07:20:45 2005 From: vputhen at cc.hut.fi (vputhen at cc.hut.fi) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:20:45 +0300 (EEST) Subject: Loading modules into compiled kernel Message-ID: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> Hello, I am doing some work on 2.4.18 kernel. I got bcm5700 driver for a 3com Gigabit ethernet card which I bought 2 years ago. My problem is that when I compile a new kernel (with the same version but with other changes), I have to always insmod it after the new kernel has booted up. Is there someway to load this module in the kernel after compilation and before it is booted? I cannot find broadcom in the list of vendors while configuring (make xconfig or make menuconfig). thankyou vpv From Mohit.Aggrawal at ca.com Mon Jun 27 14:06:49 2005 From: Mohit.Aggrawal at ca.com (Aggrawal, Mohit) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:36:49 +0530 Subject: accessing windows file in fedora core 3 Linux Message-ID: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> Hello I have installed fedora core 3 Linux on my machine which already has windows XP previously installed ....i was to access the windows file in linux ....can any body help me in doing that ????the file system in XP is NTFS ...!! Thanks in advance Mohit From smp at worldinfo.com Mon Jun 27 16:18:16 2005 From: smp at worldinfo.com (Sandifer Platt) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:18:16 -0400 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 16, Issue 25 Message-ID: <853238344@ollie> I am out of the Office untill 07/05/05, please send all Support Request to support at worldinfo.com Thanks Sandifer Platt World Information Systems, Inc. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 27 17:43:29 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:43:29 -0500 Subject: Validating incoming email addresses In-Reply-To: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <20050627174329.GB20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:50:43PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > How do I go about blocking incoming email based on validating the sender's > email address? I am getting spam email which is from a non-existent email > address on my own domain. A look at the header shows it's not from my > domain. I expected that. But, the From: field is from my domain > (ourldsfamily.com), even down to my server name (moroni.ourldsfamily.com) > which NEVER sends email, per se, other than internally as in mail > generated by cron jobs. > > Too much information, but I hope you get the gist of what I need. > > TIA, > > Karl Depends on your email setup and where you want to stop the mail. If you want to stop it at the door, then it depends on what MTA (sendmail, postfix, et al.) you are using. If you want to punt it after your MTA accepts it but before delivery, I strongly recommend SpamAssassin. With or without SA, you can drop it in the bit bucket with a well-crafted recipe in your ~/.procmailrc (assuming procmail is your MDA (delivery agent)). But with SA, and assuming SA scores it as spam, then procmail can (1) divert the spam to a bucket for inspection, (2) punt spam scoring over XX points, or (3) summarily punt all identified spam (not recommended), or some combination. Let us know your constraints. I'm well versed in Postfix and SpamAssassin. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 27 17:47:42 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:47:42 -0500 Subject: Loading modules into compiled kernel In-Reply-To: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> References: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> Message-ID: <20050627174742.GC20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:20:45AM +0300, vputhen at cc.hut.fi wrote: > Hello, > > I am doing some work on 2.4.18 kernel. I got bcm5700 driver for a 3com Gigabit > ethernet card which I bought 2 years ago. My problem is that when I compile a > new kernel (with the same version but with other changes), I have to always > insmod it after the new kernel has booted up. Is there someway to load this > module in the kernel after compilation and before it is booted? I cannot find > broadcom in the list of vendors while configuring (make xconfig or make > menuconfig). > > thankyou > vpv You should be able to make an entry in your /etc/modules.conf to the effect of alias eth0 bcm5700 and it should get loaded as soon as it's needed. Have you considered upgrading to FC2, 3, or 4? One of those probably already has support for the bcm5700. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon Jun 27 18:00:30 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:00:30 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Validating incoming email addresses In-Reply-To: <20050627174329.GB20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627174329.GB20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <40168.207.173.117.242.1119895230.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:50:43PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> How do I go about blocking incoming email based on validating the >> sender's >> email address? I am getting spam email which is from a non-existent >> email >> address on my own domain. A look at the header shows it's not from my >> domain. I expected that. But, the From: field is from my domain >> (ourldsfamily.com), even down to my server name >> (moroni.ourldsfamily.com) >> which NEVER sends email, per se, other than internally as in mail >> generated by cron jobs. >> >> Too much information, but I hope you get the gist of what I need. >> >> TIA, >> >> Karl > > Depends on your email setup and where you want to stop the mail. If > you want to stop it at the door, then it depends on what MTA > (sendmail, postfix, et al.) you are using. > > If you want to punt it after your MTA accepts it but before delivery, > I strongly recommend SpamAssassin. With or without SA, you can drop > it in the bit bucket with a well-crafted recipe in your ~/.procmailrc > (assuming procmail is your MDA (delivery agent)). But with SA, and > assuming SA scores it as spam, then procmail can (1) divert the spam > to a bucket for inspection, (2) punt spam scoring over XX points, or > (3) summarily punt all identified spam (not recommended), or some > combination. > > Let us know your constraints. I'm well versed in Postfix and > SpamAssassin. > I'm using sendmail and Spamassassin (v3.0.2) and these emails aren't getting caught. I have some other issues as well, such as email that is clearly, to me, spam which is not being caught. The score is only .1 (my threshold is set at 1.0) I guess in theory, my threshold should be 0.0 rather than 1, but there are a bunch of emailers who have no clue and insist on 'pretty-ing' up their email by sending HTML email (curse the fool who came up with that functionality; and curse AOL for not allowing anyting BUT HTML email!). I have a pretty complex set of procmail filters at both the enterprize level and the personal level in my own account. I'm no great procmail programmer as many of my rules are copied/tested and retested until they work 'right'. I may be wrong, but optimally, I think I'd like to have sendmail refuse delivery of email which isn't a user on my domain. However if it's better to have procmail do it, I'm all over that, too. Thanks Bob. (and any others who have experience and can help) Karl > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From fab at s-tunnel.com Mon Jun 27 18:32:59 2005 From: fab at s-tunnel.com (Alexey Fadyushin) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:32:59 +0400 Subject: accessing windows file in fedora core 3 Linux In-Reply-To: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> Message-ID: <42C0465B.70104@s-tunnel.com> Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: > Hello > I have installed fedora core 3 Linux on my machine which already > has windows XP previously installed ....i was to access the windows file > in linux ....can any body help me in doing that ????the file system in > XP is NTFS ...!! > Thanks in advance > Mohit > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe Linux kernel can mount NTFS partitions provided that the appropriate module (ntfs.o) is available. If the module is available, you can mount NTFS partition with the command mount -t ntfs If the module is not available (as far as I can remember, it is not included with compiled kernel in FC3), you should obtain package 'kernel-sources', recompile and install the kernel with NTFS support enabled. Alexey Fadyushin Brainbench MVP for Linux. http://www.brainbench.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Mon Jun 27 19:19:14 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:19:14 -0500 Subject: Validating incoming email addresses In-Reply-To: <40168.207.173.117.242.1119895230.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627174329.GB20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <40168.207.173.117.242.1119895230.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <20050627191914.GE20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:00:30PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:50:43PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >> How do I go about blocking incoming email based on validating the > >> sender's > >> email address? I am getting spam email which is from a non-existent > >> email > >> address on my own domain. A look at the header shows it's not from my > >> domain. I expected that. But, the From: field is from my domain > >> (ourldsfamily.com), even down to my server name > >> (moroni.ourldsfamily.com) > >> which NEVER sends email, per se, other than internally as in mail > >> generated by cron jobs. > >> > >> Too much information, but I hope you get the gist of what I need. > >> > >> TIA, > >> > >> Karl > > > > Depends on your email setup and where you want to stop the mail. If > > you want to stop it at the door, then it depends on what MTA > > (sendmail, postfix, et al.) you are using. > > > > If you want to punt it after your MTA accepts it but before delivery, > > I strongly recommend SpamAssassin. With or without SA, you can drop > > it in the bit bucket with a well-crafted recipe in your ~/.procmailrc > > (assuming procmail is your MDA (delivery agent)). But with SA, and > > assuming SA scores it as spam, then procmail can (1) divert the spam > > to a bucket for inspection, (2) punt spam scoring over XX points, or > > (3) summarily punt all identified spam (not recommended), or some > > combination. > > > > Let us know your constraints. I'm well versed in Postfix and > > SpamAssassin. > > > > I'm using sendmail and Spamassassin (v3.0.2) and these emails aren't > getting caught. Side note: SA vv3.0.1-3 have a known DOS vulnerability. I recommend upgrade to v3.0.4. > I have some other issues as well, such as email that is > clearly, to me, spam which is not being caught. The score is only .1 (my > threshold is set at 1.0) I guess in theory, my threshold should be 0.0 > rather than 1, but there are a bunch of emailers who have no clue and > insist on 'pretty-ing' up their email by sending HTML email (curse the > fool who came up with that functionality; and curse AOL for not allowing > anyting BUT HTML email!). Ouch! Threshold of 1.0? Surely you can improve things. I run with the default threshold of 5.0 and rarely have to feed a missed spam back to sa-learn. I strongly urge you to use the SpamAssassin Rules Emporium's (SARE) add-on rulesets and keep them updated with "rules_du_jour". Also make sure the SURBL (SpamAssassin URI Realtime BlackList) checker is working. In particular, run spamassassin -D --lint and look to see that the Net::DNS module is up to date and loading. Here are some URLs to get you started: http://spamassassin.apache.org/index.html (of course) http://www.rulesemporium.com/ http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ http://www.surbl.org/ > I have a pretty complex set of procmail filters at both the enterprize > level and the personal level in my own account. I'm no great procmail > programmer as many of my rules are copied/tested and retested until they > work 'right'. I may be wrong, but optimally, I think I'd like to have > sendmail refuse delivery of email which isn't a user on my domain. I use this, too: http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html > However > if it's better to have procmail do it, I'm all over that, too. > > Thanks Bob. (and any others who have experience and can help) > > Karl Finally, I recommend you joint the SA mailing list at least long enough to get to where you need to set your spam threshold back to 5.0: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists Let me know, on or off list, if you need any additional help. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Mon Jun 27 20:26:44 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:26:44 +0300 Subject: accessing windows file in fedora core 3 Linux In-Reply-To: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> Message-ID: <42C06104.7080203@cha.forthnet.gr> Greetings Mohit Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: > Hello > I have installed fedora core 3 Linux on my machine which already > has windows XP previously installed ....i was to access the windows file > in linux ....can any body help me in doing that ????the file system in > XP is NTFS ...!! This question has been answered multiple times in the past and the answer remains still the same for Fedora Core 3 . The Fedora Core releases as it was with Redhat releases come with a kernel that doesn't support the NTFS Filesystem ( as it is ) . So the answer to your question is that you will have to recompile the kernel that you use and this time compile the NTFS READ ONLY module with it . > Thanks in advance > Mohit Kind Regards, Kostas From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Mon Jun 27 22:07:47 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:07:47 -0700 Subject: Iptables help please. Message-ID: Is there any way I can configure iptables to block all outbound traffic, but allow inbound? Here's the deal, I want people to be able to (for example) telnet/ssh in, but I don't want them to be able to telnet/ssh back out. I would prefer to do this with iptables. Basically, I want the roach motel... I want the users to be able to get in, but I don't want them getting back out. lol Thanks. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Jun 27 23:10:18 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:10:18 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <21670.198.60.114.90.1119674611.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> <35401.207.173.117.242.1119373999.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B84D9E.5060202@vitalstream.com> <21670.198.60.114.90.1119674611.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <42C0875A.2000404@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> >>>>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I've >>>>>>>just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed to >>>>>>>allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. >>>>>>>(We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that the >>>>>>>EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. Would >>>>>>>something like this work? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got >>>>> >>>>>>from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't >>>>>backward >>>>>compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to >>>>>work. >>>> >>>>Uh, USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices if that's what you mean. Note that >>>>olders computers can't boot USB devices unless a BIOS update has been >>>>performed. Also, USB hard disks show up as SCSI (just like just about >>>>everything else that isn't IDE/EIDE/ATA). >>> >>> >>>I beg to differ. Here at work, we install quite a few USB devices and >>>have >>>too many problems installing USB2.0 devices on PCs with USB1.1 >>>ports/drivers. Yes, USB2.0 is backward compatible, however, USB1.1 isn't >>>forward compatible and on drives we've installed that are addressed to >>>USB2.0 and larger than about 64MB addressable memory, we have >>>significant >>>problems. >> >>If you read what I wrote, I said "USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices". I >>said nothing about 1.1 running 2.0 devices, which it obviously can't. > > > Hey, I had a senior moment... I'm 50 now. Aren't I entitled? Okay, I don't > believe in entitlements. Now what? Senility? Well, I'm 47. "Growing old ain't for sissies!" --Bette Davis ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Jun 27 23:14:35 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:14:35 -0700 Subject: Validating incoming email addresses In-Reply-To: <20050627191914.GE20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627174329.GB20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <40168.207.173.117.242.1119895230.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627191914.GE20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C0885B.40605@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:00:30PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > >>>On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:50:43PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>> >>>>How do I go about blocking incoming email based on validating the >>>>sender's >>>>email address? I am getting spam email which is from a non-existent >>>>email >>>>address on my own domain. A look at the header shows it's not from my >>>>domain. I expected that. But, the From: field is from my domain >>>>(ourldsfamily.com), even down to my server name >>>>(moroni.ourldsfamily.com) >>>>which NEVER sends email, per se, other than internally as in mail >>>>generated by cron jobs. >>>> >>>>Too much information, but I hope you get the gist of what I need. >>>> >>>>TIA, >>>> >>>>Karl >>> >>>Depends on your email setup and where you want to stop the mail. If >>>you want to stop it at the door, then it depends on what MTA >>>(sendmail, postfix, et al.) you are using. >>> >>>If you want to punt it after your MTA accepts it but before delivery, >>>I strongly recommend SpamAssassin. With or without SA, you can drop >>>it in the bit bucket with a well-crafted recipe in your ~/.procmailrc >>>(assuming procmail is your MDA (delivery agent)). But with SA, and >>>assuming SA scores it as spam, then procmail can (1) divert the spam >>>to a bucket for inspection, (2) punt spam scoring over XX points, or >>>(3) summarily punt all identified spam (not recommended), or some >>>combination. >>> >>>Let us know your constraints. I'm well versed in Postfix and >>>SpamAssassin. >>> >> >>I'm using sendmail and Spamassassin (v3.0.2) and these emails aren't >>getting caught. > > > Side note: SA vv3.0.1-3 have a known DOS vulnerability. I recommend > upgrade to v3.0.4. > > >>I have some other issues as well, such as email that is >>clearly, to me, spam which is not being caught. The score is only .1 (my >>threshold is set at 1.0) I guess in theory, my threshold should be 0.0 >>rather than 1, but there are a bunch of emailers who have no clue and >>insist on 'pretty-ing' up their email by sending HTML email (curse the >>fool who came up with that functionality; and curse AOL for not allowing >>anyting BUT HTML email!). > > > Ouch! Threshold of 1.0? Surely you can improve things. I run with > the default threshold of 5.0 and rarely have to feed a missed spam > back to sa-learn. I strongly urge you to use the SpamAssassin Rules > Emporium's (SARE) add-on rulesets and keep them updated with > "rules_du_jour". Also make sure the SURBL (SpamAssassin URI Realtime > BlackList) checker is working. In particular, run > > spamassassin -D --lint > > and look to see that the Net::DNS module is up to date and loading. > > Here are some URLs to get you started: > > http://spamassassin.apache.org/index.html (of course) > http://www.rulesemporium.com/ > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ > http://www.surbl.org/ > > >>I have a pretty complex set of procmail filters at both the enterprize >>level and the personal level in my own account. I'm no great procmail >>programmer as many of my rules are copied/tested and retested until they >>work 'right'. I may be wrong, but optimally, I think I'd like to have >>sendmail refuse delivery of email which isn't a user on my domain. > > > I use this, too: > > http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html > > >>However >>if it's better to have procmail do it, I'm all over that, too. >> >>Thanks Bob. (and any others who have experience and can help) >> >>Karl > > > Finally, I recommend you joint the SA mailing list at least long > enough to get to where you need to set your spam threshold back to > 5.0: > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists > > Let me know, on or off list, if you need any additional help. You should also NOT accept mail from non-resolvable hosts, e.g. make sure "accept_unresolveable_domains" is turned OFF in your sendmail.mc file. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 00:19:40 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:19:40 -0700 Subject: Loading modules into compiled kernel In-Reply-To: <20050627174742.GC20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> <20050627174742.GC20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C0979C.4050203@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:20:45AM +0300, vputhen at cc.hut.fi wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I am doing some work on 2.4.18 kernel. I got bcm5700 driver for a 3com Gigabit >>ethernet card which I bought 2 years ago. My problem is that when I compile a >>new kernel (with the same version but with other changes), I have to always >>insmod it after the new kernel has booted up. Is there someway to load this >>module in the kernel after compilation and before it is booted? I cannot find >>broadcom in the list of vendors while configuring (make xconfig or make >>menuconfig). The "tg3" driver works for Broadcom (albeit not the "best" driver). > You should be able to make an entry in your /etc/modules.conf to the > effect of > > alias eth0 bcm5700 > > and it should get loaded as soon as it's needed. Ah, only if the driver is in the appropriate "/lib/modules/`uname -r`" directory, Bobster. And the "tg3" driver is the default for Broadcom. The bcm5700 driver is much better, but tg3 is the default. > Have you considered upgrading to FC2, 3, or 4? One of those probably > already has support for the bcm5700. Again, it's the "tg3" driver. Just why Fedora/RH continue to use this "pretty sad" driver is beyond me (probably some copyright BS), the "tg3" driver continues to be the default. Why is tg3 sad? It has major issues autonegotiating with some switches (Extreme and Cisco to name two), it's unreliable at speeds >10Mb and you get lots of buffer overruns. The bcm5700 driver is much better, but you do have to build it yourself. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To iterate is human, to recurse, divine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Jun 28 02:14:51 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:14:51 -0500 Subject: Loading modules into compiled kernel In-Reply-To: <42C0979C.4050203@vitalstream.com> References: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> <20050627174742.GC20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C0979C.4050203@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050628021451.GA6062@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:19:40PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:20:45AM +0300, vputhen at cc.hut.fi wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I am doing some work on 2.4.18 kernel. I got bcm5700 driver for a 3com > >>Gigabit ethernet card which I bought 2 years ago. My problem is that when > >>I compile a new kernel (with the same version but with other changes), I > >>have to always insmod it after the new kernel has booted up. Is there > >>someway to load this module in the kernel after compilation and before it > >>is booted? I cannot find broadcom in the list of vendors while > >>configuring (make xconfig or make menuconfig). > > The "tg3" driver works for Broadcom (albeit not the "best" driver). > > >You should be able to make an entry in your /etc/modules.conf to the > >effect of > > > > alias eth0 bcm5700 > > > >and it should get loaded as soon as it's needed. > > Ah, only if the driver is in the appropriate "/lib/modules/`uname -r`" > directory, Bobster. And the "tg3" driver is the default for Broadcom. > The bcm5700 driver is much better, but tg3 is the default. Hey, someone had to stand in the gap and offer _something_ to the OP until you got off your tin can and showed up here. ;-) I'm not accustomed to the rarified air of gigabit ethernet. Only last week did I spring for a dual-speed (10/100Base-T) hub for my LAN. Woo! > >Have you considered upgrading to FC2, 3, or 4? One of those probably > >already has support for the bcm5700. > > Again, it's the "tg3" driver. Just why Fedora/RH continue to use this > "pretty sad" driver is beyond me (probably some copyright BS), the "tg3" > driver continues to be the default. > > Why is tg3 sad? It has major issues autonegotiating with some switches > (Extreme and Cisco to name two), it's unreliable at speeds >10Mb and you > get lots of buffer overruns. The bcm5700 driver is much better, but > you do have to build it yourself. Perhaps, like Micro$oft, a triumph of marketing over technical excellence. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - To iterate is human, to recurse, divine. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From gnichols at tpg.com.au Tue Jun 28 04:15:54 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:15:54 +1000 Subject: accessing windows file in fedora core 3 Linux In-Reply-To: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> Message-ID: <42C0CEFA.2050309@tpg.com.au> Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: >Hello > I have installed fedora core 3 Linux on my machine which already >has windows XP previously installed ....i was to access the windows file >in linux ....can any body help me in doing that ????the file system in >XP is NTFS ...!! > Thanks in advance > Mohit > > > Hello Mohit, Google for the following rpm; kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.9-1.667-2.1.20-0.rr.3.3.i686.rpm The above is for the stock kernel as comes with FC3. If you have upgraded your kernel you will need to get the rpm for your kernel. You should find it on the same site as the above. Install it with the following command; rpm -ivh and you will be able to access your ntfs win xp partition. After I installed the above rpm the windows ntfs partition is mounted automatically. It may not necessarily mount automatically on your system. Check your /etc/fstab file and your /mnt dir for a mount point. Good luck. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. From ceenu99 at rediffmail.com Tue Jun 28 04:53:56 2005 From: ceenu99 at rediffmail.com (srinivas m) Date: 28 Jun 2005 04:53:56 -0000 Subject: need help reg libc 6.1 Message-ID: <20050628045356.17144.qmail@webmail47.rediffmail.com> Hi All, I have an assignment to work on libc6.1..so i downloaded RHL 6.2 which has glibc 2.1.x Is it possible to get Fedora or RHL 3.0 and RHL 9 with libc 6.1.. If yes, plz let me know where can I get and how should I install... 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Thank you, Ceenu Many ages ago (in times of RedHat 6.1 and other great overlords) the Linux elders decided to rename the C Library "libc" to "glibc" and from that day libc 6 became to be glibc 2. In another words, libc6 and glibc2 is the same thing :) _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From blackhat- at excite.com Tue Jun 28 15:45:31 2005 From: blackhat- at excite.com (Ilya Fainberg) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RHEL 3.0 and SuSE 9.0 Message-ID: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> --- On Tue 06/28, Ammar Nassaj < amnassaj at yahoo.de > wrote: From: Ammar Nassaj [mailto: amnassaj at yahoo.de] To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RHEL 3.0 and SuSE 9.0 Hallo,

I have installed Window and SuSE 9.0 on my first hard
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Can anybody tell me how I can get into SuSE again?

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Well i really hope you didn't installed RHLE on the same partition as Suse, if it is then i'm afraid your Suse is lost. You can check if the Suse partition is still in place by running 'cfdisk' it's a text based front-end to fdisk, very easy to use. If everything is ok then i can explain how to fix the problem if you use the LILO boot manager. (I never used GRUB so i really don't know) Anyhow as for LILO: you open /etc/lilo.conf and look at it for 5 minutes After you realize it's a damn pretty file, you simply add the Suse partition to the list of possible partitions to boot. It really is an easy Copy-Paste job. After you saved the file you have to run the 'lilo' command in order for the changes to take effect. This is it! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From mmcculli at visualtech.ca Tue Jun 28 16:07:15 2005 From: mmcculli at visualtech.ca (Mark McCulligh) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:07:15 -0400 Subject: GhostScript 8.51 In-Reply-To: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> References: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> Message-ID: <42C175B3.6090700@visualtech.ca> Hi Group, I am trying to install GhostScript 8.51 on my RHEL 3 box. I currently have version 7.x on the box installed using the rpm. I cannot find a rpm that will work for GhostScript 8.51. (If someone knows of one let me know, PLEASE!) I am going to try and install it by configuring from source. I was wondering what is the best way to go about it. Do I just compile the source and it will update my rpm version of GhostScript. Should I remove the rpm version first? It has lots of depends for I don't know if I can uninstall it without breaking something. Mark. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 17:43:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:43:05 -0700 Subject: Loading modules into compiled kernel In-Reply-To: <20050628021451.GA6062@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> <20050627174742.GC20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C0979C.4050203@vitalstream.com> <20050628021451.GA6062@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C18C29.8080601@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:19:40PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 10:20:45AM +0300, vputhen at cc.hut.fi wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>>I am doing some work on 2.4.18 kernel. I got bcm5700 driver for a 3com >>>>Gigabit ethernet card which I bought 2 years ago. My problem is that when >>>>I compile a new kernel (with the same version but with other changes), I >>>>have to always insmod it after the new kernel has booted up. Is there >>>>someway to load this module in the kernel after compilation and before it >>>>is booted? I cannot find broadcom in the list of vendors while >>>>configuring (make xconfig or make menuconfig). >> >>The "tg3" driver works for Broadcom (albeit not the "best" driver). >> >> >>>You should be able to make an entry in your /etc/modules.conf to the >>>effect of >>> >>> alias eth0 bcm5700 >>> >>>and it should get loaded as soon as it's needed. >> >>Ah, only if the driver is in the appropriate "/lib/modules/`uname -r`" >>directory, Bobster. And the "tg3" driver is the default for Broadcom. >>The bcm5700 driver is much better, but tg3 is the default. > > > Hey, someone had to stand in the gap and offer _something_ to the OP > until you got off your tin can and showed up here. ;-) > > I'm not accustomed to the rarified air of gigabit ethernet. Only last > week did I spring for a dual-speed (10/100Base-T) hub for my LAN. > Woo! Sorry, but I've been up in our L.A. facility for the last four weeks working my tail off installing a 10TB SAN system with a global file system to replace our current NAS system. This will be expanded to 45TB within a month and we have to migrate over 6TB of data from the NAS to the SAN without interrupting service. We spent a lot of $$$ on this and since my boss and I convinced the company this is the only way we can go, it's been my focus. I've had very little brain power or stamina left over for the list. I haven't gotten home before 9:00 p.m. for a month, and that's only after a drive of over an hour after putting in 14 hours at the office. In a word, I'm POOPED! If everything goes according to plan, we cut over to the new system on Wednesday night (only three days late, even though half the equipment was 2 weeks late in delivery), and I'll be back to the normal schedule of 10 hour days in the Irvine office (only a 20 minute drive from home). >>>Have you considered upgrading to FC2, 3, or 4? One of those probably >>>already has support for the bcm5700. >> >>Again, it's the "tg3" driver. Just why Fedora/RH continue to use this >>"pretty sad" driver is beyond me (probably some copyright BS), the "tg3" >>driver continues to be the default. >> >>Why is tg3 sad? It has major issues autonegotiating with some switches >>(Extreme and Cisco to name two), it's unreliable at speeds >10Mb and you >>get lots of buffer overruns. The bcm5700 driver is much better, but >>you do have to build it yourself. > > > Perhaps, like Micro$oft, a triumph of marketing over technical > excellence. There's two possibilities...the bcm driver isn't GPL'd properly (I'd have to check that) or it's too hardware-specific. The tg3 driver works with a lot of cards--not just the Broadcom. The bcm driver is quite specific and only works with Broadcom chipsets. However, it's faster and more reliable than the tg3 driver if you can use it. I check the website often and have, oh, 15 or so different versions of the driver code on a 750MB ZIP disk (along with other useful drivers). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 18:00:25 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:00:25 -0700 Subject: GhostScript 8.51 In-Reply-To: <42C175B3.6090700@visualtech.ca> References: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> <42C175B3.6090700@visualtech.ca> Message-ID: <42C19039.6010909@vitalstream.com> Mark McCulligh wrote: > Hi Group, > > I am trying to install GhostScript 8.51 on my RHEL 3 box. I currently > have version 7.x on the box installed using the rpm. I cannot find a > rpm that will work for GhostScript 8.51. (If someone knows of one let me > know, PLEASE!) I am going to try and install it by configuring from > source. I was wondering what is the best way to go about it. Do I just > compile the source and it will update my rpm version of GhostScript. > Should I remove the rpm version first? It has lots of depends for I > don't know if I can uninstall it without breaking something. If you are posting a message with a different subject, please post a NEW message. Do NOT reply to an existing message and simply change the subject. That's called "thread hijacking" and it's highly frowned upon, Mark. Since I've never seen a post from you before, we'll let it slide this time. ;-) However, to answer your question, first be aware of the fact that RH won't support any issues you have with the new Ghostscript. RH only supports items that come from their up2date servers. Now, how to build it: You should read any README or INSTALL files that come with the source tarball for dependencies and such and make sure you have those items installed first. Next, the general process for building and installing programs from source is this sequence: $ cd /package/source/dir $ ./configure $ make $ su # make install There are usually a number of options you can give to the configure scripts, such as the directory you want it to install into, enabling different options, etc. "./configure --help" will usually list these options. You should also watch the output of configure fairly carefully. Look for any errors regarding missing packages, libraries and such. Fix those before you go to the "make" step. You want "configure" to run as cleanly as possible. Most packages will default to installing into /usr/local. This makes it fairly easy to delete if you want to. Some programs also have a "make uninstall" option (you'd have to look at the Makefile generated by the configure program to see). Should you decide to install it in the normal Red Hat spot by using the "--basedir=" options (thereby overwriting the version from the RPM), make sure you have the original RPM file saved somewhere. That way, you can reinstall the RPM over the top of the new file by doing: # rpm -Uvh --force name-of-rpm-file.rpm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never try to outstubborn a cat. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Jun 28 18:06:16 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:06:16 -0500 Subject: Loading modules into compiled kernel In-Reply-To: <42C18C29.8080601@vitalstream.com> References: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> <20050627174742.GC20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C0979C.4050203@vitalstream.com> <20050628021451.GA6062@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C18C29.8080601@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050628180616.GA3715@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:43:05AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > > >Hey, someone had to stand in the gap and offer _something_ to the OP > >until you got off your tin can and showed up here. ;-) > > > >I'm not accustomed to the rarified air of gigabit ethernet. Only last > >week did I spring for a dual-speed (10/100Base-T) hub for my LAN. > >Woo! > > Sorry, but I've been up in our L.A. facility for the last four weeks > working my tail off installing a 10TB SAN system with a global file > system to replace our current NAS system. This will be expanded to 45TB > within a month and we have to migrate over 6TB of data from the NAS to > the SAN without interrupting service. > > We spent a lot of $$$ on this and since my boss and I convinced the > company this is the only way we can go, it's been my focus. I've had > very little brain power or stamina left over for the list. I haven't > gotten home before 9:00 p.m. for a month, and that's only after a drive > of over an hour after putting in 14 hours at the office. In a word, I'm > POOPED! > > If everything goes according to plan, we cut over to the new system on > Wednesday night (only three days late, even though half the equipment > was 2 weeks late in delivery), and I'll be back to the normal schedule > of 10 hour days in the Irvine office (only a 20 minute drive from home). Ok, I guess we'll let you off this time. ;-) Golly, and I get dizzy thinking about gigabytes. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 18:15:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:15:05 -0700 Subject: Loading modules into compiled kernel In-Reply-To: <20050628180616.GA3715@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1119856845.42bfa8cd07524@webmail1.hut.fi> <20050627174742.GC20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C0979C.4050203@vitalstream.com> <20050628021451.GA6062@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C18C29.8080601@vitalstream.com> <20050628180616.GA3715@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C193A9.2010309@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:43:05AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>> >>>Hey, someone had to stand in the gap and offer _something_ to the OP >>>until you got off your tin can and showed up here. ;-) >>> >>>I'm not accustomed to the rarified air of gigabit ethernet. Only last >>>week did I spring for a dual-speed (10/100Base-T) hub for my LAN. >>>Woo! >> >>Sorry, but I've been up in our L.A. facility for the last four weeks >>working my tail off installing a 10TB SAN system with a global file >>system to replace our current NAS system. This will be expanded to 45TB >>within a month and we have to migrate over 6TB of data from the NAS to >>the SAN without interrupting service. >> >>We spent a lot of $$$ on this and since my boss and I convinced the >>company this is the only way we can go, it's been my focus. I've had >>very little brain power or stamina left over for the list. I haven't >>gotten home before 9:00 p.m. for a month, and that's only after a drive >>of over an hour after putting in 14 hours at the office. In a word, I'm >>POOPED! >> >>If everything goes according to plan, we cut over to the new system on >>Wednesday night (only three days late, even though half the equipment >>was 2 weeks late in delivery), and I'll be back to the normal schedule >>of 10 hour days in the Irvine office (only a 20 minute drive from home). > > > Ok, I guess we'll let you off this time. ;-) Golly, and I get dizzy > thinking about gigabytes. Heheheh! Dig this! The filesystem (and SAN) can expand to 2 petabytes (that's 2,000 terabytes or 2 million gigabytes). The way things are going, we'll probably exceed 100TB by the end of the year. You can't believe the amount of fibrechannel stuff I've had to install! About 250 73GB 15KRPM FC drives and growing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Microsoft is a cross between The Borg and the Ferengi. - - Unfortunately they use Borg to do their marketing and Ferengi to - - do their programming." -- Simon Slavin - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fab at s-tunnel.com Tue Jun 28 18:20:35 2005 From: fab at s-tunnel.com (Alexey Fadyushin) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:20:35 +0400 Subject: accessing windows file in fedora core 3 Linux In-Reply-To: <42C06104.7080203@cha.forthnet.gr> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> <42C06104.7080203@cha.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: <42C194F3.2060206@s-tunnel.com> Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > > > Greetings Mohit > > Aggrawal, Mohit wrote: > >> Hello I have installed fedora core 3 Linux on my machine which >> already >> has windows XP previously installed ....i was to access the windows file >> in linux ....can any body help me in doing that ????the file system in >> XP is NTFS ...!! > > > This question has been answered multiple times in the past and the > answer remains still the same for Fedora Core 3 . > The Fedora Core releases as it was with Redhat releases come with > a kernel that doesn't support the NTFS Filesystem ( as it is ) . > So the answer to your question is that you will have to recompile the > kernel that you use and this time compile the NTFS READ ONLY module > with it . > Actually, there is EXPERIMENTAL, DANGEFOUS read-write support for NTFS in the kernel module. If needed, it should be switched on during kernel compilation. Howewer, it is considered very unstable and most probably will damage filesystem. Alexey Fadyushin Brainbench MVP for Linux. http://www.brainbench.com > >> Thanks in advance >> Mohit > > > > Kind Regards, > Kostas > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From mmcculli at visualtech.ca Tue Jun 28 18:21:57 2005 From: mmcculli at visualtech.ca (Mark McCulligh) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:21:57 -0400 Subject: GhostScript 8.51 In-Reply-To: <42C19039.6010909@vitalstream.com> References: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> <42C175B3.6090700@visualtech.ca> <42C19039.6010909@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42C19545.5060306@visualtech.ca> Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark McCulligh wrote: > >> Hi Group, >> >> I am trying to install GhostScript 8.51 on my RHEL 3 box. I >> currently have version 7.x on the box installed using the rpm. I >> cannot find a rpm that will work for GhostScript 8.51. (If someone >> knows of one let me know, PLEASE!) I am going to try and install it >> by configuring from source. I was wondering what is the best way to >> go about it. Do I just compile the source and it will update my rpm >> version of GhostScript. Should I remove the rpm version first? It >> has lots of depends for I don't know if I can uninstall it without >> breaking something. > > > If you are posting a message with a different subject, please post a NEW > message. Do NOT reply to an existing message and simply change the > subject. That's called "thread hijacking" and it's highly frowned upon, > Mark. Since I've never seen a post from you before, we'll let it slide > this time. ;-) > > However, to answer your question, first be aware of the fact that RH > won't support any issues you have with the new Ghostscript. RH only > supports items that come from their up2date servers. > > Now, how to build it: You should read any README or INSTALL files that > come with the source tarball for dependencies and such and make sure you > have those items installed first. > > Next, the general process for building and installing programs from > source is this sequence: > > $ cd /package/source/dir > $ ./configure > $ make > $ su > # make install > > There are usually a number of options you can give to the configure > scripts, such as the directory you want it to install into, enabling > different options, etc. "./configure --help" will usually list these > options. > > You should also watch the output of configure fairly carefully. Look > for any errors regarding missing packages, libraries and such. Fix > those before you go to the "make" step. You want "configure" to run as > cleanly as possible. > > Most packages will default to installing into /usr/local. This makes > it fairly easy to delete if you want to. Some programs also have a > "make uninstall" option (you'd have to look at the Makefile generated > by the configure program to see). > > Should you decide to install it in the normal Red Hat spot by using the > "--basedir=" options (thereby overwriting the version from the RPM), > make sure you have the original RPM file saved somewhere. That way, you > can reinstall the RPM over the top of the new file by doing: > > # rpm -Uvh --force name-of-rpm-file.rpm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Never try to outstubborn a cat. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe Thanks Rick, I didn't mean to "thread hijacking" I will remember that. When replacing a package that was originally installed using rpm and you upgrade by compiling from source. Is the rpm version replaced? I know there will be orphan files has the two will most likely install files in different locations. But me fear is that both Ghostscript 7 and Ghostscript 8 are running at the same time and will conflict with each other down the road. PS Yes I know RH will not support the newer version of Ghostscript, but a client needs the newer version. Mark. From fab at s-tunnel.com Tue Jun 28 18:31:54 2005 From: fab at s-tunnel.com (Alexey Fadyushin) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:31:54 +0400 Subject: Iptables help please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42C1979A.9090507@s-tunnel.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Is there any way I can configure iptables to block all outbound traffic, > but allow inbound? > > Here's the deal, I want people to be able to (for example) telnet/ssh > in, but I don't want them to be able to telnet/ssh back out. I would > prefer to do this with iptables. > > Basically, I want the roach motel... I want the users to be able to get > in, but I don't want them getting back out. lol > > Thanks. I think that the following configuration will help (I assume that the tables INPUT and OUTPUT are flushed before inserting these rules): iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m state ESTABLISHED, RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -p udp -m state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -j REJECT The first rule will allow all incoming packets, the second and third ones will allow outgoing packets which transmitted in reply to already received incoming packets (as part of information exchange initiated from outside), and fourth rule will block all other outgoing packets (i.e. those which are sent not in reply to incoming traffic ). Alexey Fadyushin Brainbench MVP for Linux. http://www.brainbench.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 18:51:02 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:51:02 -0700 Subject: GhostScript 8.51 In-Reply-To: <42C19545.5060306@visualtech.ca> References: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> <42C175B3.6090700@visualtech.ca> <42C19039.6010909@vitalstream.com> <42C19545.5060306@visualtech.ca> Message-ID: <42C19C16.3050708@vitalstream.com> Mark McCulligh wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Mark McCulligh wrote: >> >>> Hi Group, >>> >>> I am trying to install GhostScript 8.51 on my RHEL 3 box. I >>> currently have version 7.x on the box installed using the rpm. I >>> cannot find a rpm that will work for GhostScript 8.51. (If someone >>> knows of one let me know, PLEASE!) I am going to try and install it >>> by configuring from source. I was wondering what is the best way to >>> go about it. Do I just compile the source and it will update my rpm >>> version of GhostScript. Should I remove the rpm version first? It >>> has lots of depends for I don't know if I can uninstall it without >>> breaking something. >> >> >> >> If you are posting a message with a different subject, please post a NEW >> message. Do NOT reply to an existing message and simply change the >> subject. That's called "thread hijacking" and it's highly frowned upon, >> Mark. Since I've never seen a post from you before, we'll let it slide >> this time. ;-) >> >> However, to answer your question, first be aware of the fact that RH >> won't support any issues you have with the new Ghostscript. RH only >> supports items that come from their up2date servers. >> >> Now, how to build it: You should read any README or INSTALL files that >> come with the source tarball for dependencies and such and make sure you >> have those items installed first. >> >> Next, the general process for building and installing programs from >> source is this sequence: >> >> $ cd /package/source/dir >> $ ./configure >> $ make >> $ su >> # make install >> >> There are usually a number of options you can give to the configure >> scripts, such as the directory you want it to install into, enabling >> different options, etc. "./configure --help" will usually list these >> options. >> >> You should also watch the output of configure fairly carefully. Look >> for any errors regarding missing packages, libraries and such. Fix >> those before you go to the "make" step. You want "configure" to run as >> cleanly as possible. >> >> Most packages will default to installing into /usr/local. This makes >> it fairly easy to delete if you want to. Some programs also have a >> "make uninstall" option (you'd have to look at the Makefile generated >> by the configure program to see). >> >> Should you decide to install it in the normal Red Hat spot by using the >> "--basedir=" options (thereby overwriting the version from the RPM), >> make sure you have the original RPM file saved somewhere. That way, you >> can reinstall the RPM over the top of the new file by doing: >> >> # rpm -Uvh --force name-of-rpm-file.rpm >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >> - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >> - - >> - Never try to outstubborn a cat. - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe > > > Thanks Rick, I didn't mean to "thread hijacking" I will remember that. No problem. > When replacing a package that was originally installed using rpm and you > upgrade by compiling from source. Is the rpm version replaced? No. rpm depends on its database (/var/lib/rpm/__db.00*). Installing from a compiled source tarball does not affect the database, so rpm will continue to report the old rpm version of the package. It doesn't know that a new one was installed. > I know > there will be orphan files has the two will most likely install files in > different locations. But me fear is that both Ghostscript 7 and > Ghostscript 8 are running at the same time and will conflict with each > other down the road. Well, if you install in /usr/local, you can have both. The trick is to see which one would get invoked when run when you enter "ghostscript". That's governed by your "PATH" environment variable ("echo $PATH" to see what it is now). If you don't specify a path to the executable, the system walks down the path looking for a match. The first one it finds is the one it runs. You can change the path order by editing various files in /etc ("/etc/profile", "/etc/bashrc", etc.) and your local "~/.bashrc" files. > PS Yes I know RH will not support the newer version of Ghostscript, but > a client needs the newer version. No problem. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that issue. Some people don't realize it and get, uhm, shall we say "annoyed" at Red Hat. :-p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "I understand Windows 2000 has a Y2K problem." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mmcculli at visualtech.ca Tue Jun 28 19:05:08 2005 From: mmcculli at visualtech.ca (Mark McCulligh) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:05:08 -0400 Subject: GhostScript 8.51 In-Reply-To: <42C19C16.3050708@vitalstream.com> References: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> <42C175B3.6090700@visualtech.ca> <42C19039.6010909@vitalstream.com> <42C19545.5060306@visualtech.ca> <42C19C16.3050708@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <42C19F64.50706@visualtech.ca> Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark McCulligh wrote: > >> Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>> Mark McCulligh wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Group, >>>> >>>> I am trying to install GhostScript 8.51 on my RHEL 3 box. I >>>> currently have version 7.x on the box installed using the rpm. I >>>> cannot find a rpm that will work for GhostScript 8.51. (If someone >>>> knows of one let me know, PLEASE!) I am going to try and install >>>> it by configuring from source. I was wondering what is the best >>>> way to go about it. Do I just compile the source and it will update >>>> my rpm version of GhostScript. Should I remove the rpm version >>>> first? It has lots of depends for I don't know if I can uninstall >>>> it without breaking something. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> If you are posting a message with a different subject, please post a >>> NEW >>> message. Do NOT reply to an existing message and simply change the >>> subject. That's called "thread hijacking" and it's highly frowned >>> upon, >>> Mark. Since I've never seen a post from you before, we'll let it slide >>> this time. ;-) >>> >>> However, to answer your question, first be aware of the fact that RH >>> won't support any issues you have with the new Ghostscript. RH only >>> supports items that come from their up2date servers. >>> >>> Now, how to build it: You should read any README or INSTALL files that >>> come with the source tarball for dependencies and such and make sure >>> you >>> have those items installed first. >>> >>> Next, the general process for building and installing programs from >>> source is this sequence: >>> >>> $ cd /package/source/dir >>> $ ./configure >>> $ make >>> $ su >>> # make install >>> >>> There are usually a number of options you can give to the configure >>> scripts, such as the directory you want it to install into, enabling >>> different options, etc. "./configure --help" will usually list these >>> options. >>> >>> You should also watch the output of configure fairly carefully. Look >>> for any errors regarding missing packages, libraries and such. Fix >>> those before you go to the "make" step. You want "configure" to run as >>> cleanly as possible. >>> >>> Most packages will default to installing into /usr/local. This makes >>> it fairly easy to delete if you want to. Some programs also have a >>> "make uninstall" option (you'd have to look at the Makefile generated >>> by the configure program to see). >>> >>> Should you decide to install it in the normal Red Hat spot by using the >>> "--basedir=" options (thereby overwriting the version from the RPM), >>> make sure you have the original RPM file saved somewhere. That way, >>> you >>> can reinstall the RPM over the top of the new file by doing: >>> >>> # rpm -Uvh --force name-of-rpm-file.rpm >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>> - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>> - - >>> - Never try to outstubborn a cat. - >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Redhat-install-list mailing list >>> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >>> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >>> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >>> Subject: unsubscribe >> >> >> >> Thanks Rick, I didn't mean to "thread hijacking" I will remember that. > > > No problem. > >> When replacing a package that was originally installed using rpm and >> you upgrade by compiling from source. Is the rpm version replaced? > > > No. rpm depends on its database (/var/lib/rpm/__db.00*). Installing > from a compiled source tarball does not affect the database, so rpm will > continue to report the old rpm version of the package. It doesn't know > that a new one was installed. > >> I >> know there will be orphan files has the two will most likely install >> files in different locations. But me fear is that both Ghostscript 7 >> and Ghostscript 8 are running at the same time and will conflict with >> each other down the road. > > > Well, if you install in /usr/local, you can have both. The trick is to > see which one would get invoked when run when you enter "ghostscript". > That's governed by your "PATH" environment variable ("echo $PATH" to > see what it is now). If you don't specify a path to the executable, the > system walks down the path looking for a match. The first one it finds > is the one it runs. You can change the path order by editing various > files in /etc ("/etc/profile", "/etc/bashrc", etc.) and your local > "~/.bashrc" files. > >> PS Yes I know RH will not support the newer version of Ghostscript, >> but a client needs the newer version. > > > No problem. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that issue. > Some people don't realize it and get, uhm, shall we say "annoyed" at Red > Hat. :-p > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - "I understand Windows 2000 has a Y2K problem." - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe Thanks Rick, I got Ghostscript 8.51 installed from source, and it comes up before ver 7.07 does when I run gs. (I checked the PATH, like you recommended) Would it be recommend to do a rpm -e --no-deps ghostscript-7.07 to remove the rpm version even if there is dependencies on it. OR just leave the rpm version allow. Mark. -- ___________________________________________ Mark McCulligh, Web Consultant VisualTech Components www.VisualTech.ca mmcculli at visualtech.ca (519)318-7905 From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Jun 28 19:24:37 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:24:37 -0500 Subject: backing up /sys Message-ID: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> I'm in the process of checking out a CD/DVD-based backup package. http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html In my first test, I noticed in the error log a bunch of carps about file sizes changing in /sys. I know that /proc is a pseudo filesystem comprising nothing but hooks into the kernel, and I know that I don't want to back that up. /sys looks like the same sort of thing, full of directories that take up 0 bytes, down to files that ls reports as 4096 bytes. Is it safe to assume I don't want to backup /sys? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Tue Jun 28 21:03:21 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:03:21 +0300 Subject: accessing windows file in fedora core 3 Linux In-Reply-To: <42C194F3.2060206@s-tunnel.com> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> <42C06104.7080203@cha.forthnet.gr> <42C194F3.2060206@s-tunnel.com> Message-ID: <42C1BB19.3070104@cha.forthnet.gr> Greetings Alexey , Alexey Fadyushin wrote: > > > Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote: > > > Actually, there is EXPERIMENTAL, DANGEFOUS read-write support for NTFS > in the kernel module. If needed, it should be switched on during kernel > compilation. Howewer, it is considered very unstable and most probably > will damage filesystem. > > Alexey Fadyushin > Brainbench MVP for Linux. > http://www.brainbench.com > For some reason your message appeared twice . Kind Regards, Kostas From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Tue Jun 28 21:03:36 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:03:36 +0300 Subject: accessing windows file in fedora core 3 Linux In-Reply-To: <42C0465B.70104@s-tunnel.com> References: <577528CFDFEFA643B3324B88812B57FEDD0194@inhyms21.ca.com> <42C0465B.70104@s-tunnel.com> Message-ID: <42C1BB28.2090006@cha.forthnet.gr> Greetings Alexey, Alexey Fadyushin wrote: < snip> > Linux kernel can mount NTFS partitions provided that the appropriate > module (ntfs.o) is available. If the module is available, you can mount > NTFS partition with the command > mount -t ntfs The Linux kernel is capable of identifying an NTFS partition , therefore the -t parameter can ve ommited . In other words mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/NTFSVolume would be sufficient . > If the module is not available (as far as I can remember, it is not > included with compiled kernel in FC3), It is not included in Fedora Core 3 it wasn't included in Fedora Core 2 and it will not be included even in Fedora Core 5 . The reason is that NTFS and it's driver are property of Microsoft Corp. therefore their use is strictly prohibited under the Copyright law . you should obtain package > 'kernel-sources', recompile and install the kernel with NTFS support > enabled. > > Alexey Fadyushin > Brainbench MVP for Linux. > http://www.brainbench.com > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 21:21:00 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:21:00 -0700 Subject: GhostScript 8.51 In-Reply-To: <42C19F64.50706@visualtech.ca> References: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> <42C175B3.6090700@visualtech.ca> <42C19039.6010909@vitalstream.com> <42C19545.5060306@visualtech.ca> <42C19C16.3050708@vitalstream.com> <42C19F64.50706@visualtech.ca> Message-ID: <42C1BF3C.7020702@vitalstream.com> Mark McCulligh wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Mark McCulligh wrote: >> >>> Rick Stevens wrote: >>> >>>> Mark McCulligh wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Group, >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to install GhostScript 8.51 on my RHEL 3 box. I >>>>> currently have version 7.x on the box installed using the rpm. I >>>>> cannot find a rpm that will work for GhostScript 8.51. (If someone >>>>> knows of one let me know, PLEASE!) I am going to try and install >>>>> it by configuring from source. I was wondering what is the best >>>>> way to go about it. Do I just compile the source and it will update >>>>> my rpm version of GhostScript. Should I remove the rpm version >>>>> first? It has lots of depends for I don't know if I can uninstall >>>>> it without breaking something. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you are posting a message with a different subject, please post a >>>> NEW >>>> message. Do NOT reply to an existing message and simply change the >>>> subject. That's called "thread hijacking" and it's highly frowned >>>> upon, >>>> Mark. Since I've never seen a post from you before, we'll let it slide >>>> this time. ;-) >>>> >>>> However, to answer your question, first be aware of the fact that RH >>>> won't support any issues you have with the new Ghostscript. RH only >>>> supports items that come from their up2date servers. >>>> >>>> Now, how to build it: You should read any README or INSTALL files that >>>> come with the source tarball for dependencies and such and make sure >>>> you >>>> have those items installed first. >>>> >>>> Next, the general process for building and installing programs from >>>> source is this sequence: >>>> >>>> $ cd /package/source/dir >>>> $ ./configure >>>> $ make >>>> $ su >>>> # make install >>>> >>>> There are usually a number of options you can give to the configure >>>> scripts, such as the directory you want it to install into, enabling >>>> different options, etc. "./configure --help" will usually list these >>>> options. >>>> >>>> You should also watch the output of configure fairly carefully. Look >>>> for any errors regarding missing packages, libraries and such. Fix >>>> those before you go to the "make" step. You want "configure" to run as >>>> cleanly as possible. >>>> >>>> Most packages will default to installing into /usr/local. This makes >>>> it fairly easy to delete if you want to. Some programs also have a >>>> "make uninstall" option (you'd have to look at the Makefile generated >>>> by the configure program to see). >>>> >>>> Should you decide to install it in the normal Red Hat spot by using the >>>> "--basedir=" options (thereby overwriting the version from the RPM), >>>> make sure you have the original RPM file saved somewhere. That way, >>>> you >>>> can reinstall the RPM over the top of the new file by doing: >>>> >>>> # rpm -Uvh --force name-of-rpm-file.rpm >>>> >>> >>> Thanks Rick, I didn't mean to "thread hijacking" I will remember that. >> >> >> >> No problem. >> >>> When replacing a package that was originally installed using rpm and >>> you upgrade by compiling from source. Is the rpm version replaced? >> >> >> >> No. rpm depends on its database (/var/lib/rpm/__db.00*). Installing >> from a compiled source tarball does not affect the database, so rpm will >> continue to report the old rpm version of the package. It doesn't know >> that a new one was installed. >> >>> I >>> know there will be orphan files has the two will most likely install >>> files in different locations. But me fear is that both Ghostscript 7 >>> and Ghostscript 8 are running at the same time and will conflict with >>> each other down the road. >> >> >> >> Well, if you install in /usr/local, you can have both. The trick is to >> see which one would get invoked when run when you enter "ghostscript". >> That's governed by your "PATH" environment variable ("echo $PATH" to >> see what it is now). If you don't specify a path to the executable, the >> system walks down the path looking for a match. The first one it finds >> is the one it runs. You can change the path order by editing various >> files in /etc ("/etc/profile", "/etc/bashrc", etc.) and your local >> "~/.bashrc" files. >> >>> PS Yes I know RH will not support the newer version of Ghostscript, >>> but a client needs the newer version. >> >> >> >> No problem. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that issue. >> Some people don't realize it and get, uhm, shall we say "annoyed" at Red >> Hat. :-p > > Thanks Rick, > > I got Ghostscript 8.51 installed from source, and it comes up before ver > 7.07 does when I run gs. (I checked the PATH, like you recommended) > > Would it be recommend to do a rpm -e --no-deps ghostscript-7.07 to > remove the rpm version even if there is dependencies on it. OR just > leave the rpm version allow. I'd leave it alone. It's not going to hurt you particularly and, in case you do other RPM installs, any dependencies would be satisfied. So long as you understand the path stuff, you should be OK. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What's small, yellow and very, VERY dangerous? The root canary! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 21:28:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:28:15 -0700 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > I'm in the process of checking out a CD/DVD-based backup package. > > http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html > > In my first test, I noticed in the error log a bunch of carps about > file sizes changing in /sys. I know that /proc is a pseudo filesystem > comprising nothing but hooks into the kernel, and I know that I don't > want to back that up. /sys looks like the same sort of thing, full of > directories that take up 0 bytes, down to files that ls reports as > 4096 bytes. > > Is it safe to assume I don't want to backup /sys? Yes. That's the infamous "sysfs" stuff. You want to back up the directory name, but not its contents. Also beware of some "dev" stuff (from "devfs" and "udev"). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Jun 28 21:50:30 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:50:30 -0500 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050628215030.GB11962@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:28:15PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >I'm in the process of checking out a CD/DVD-based backup package. > > > >http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html > > > >In my first test, I noticed in the error log a bunch of carps about > >file sizes changing in /sys. I know that /proc is a pseudo filesystem > >comprising nothing but hooks into the kernel, and I know that I don't > >want to back that up. /sys looks like the same sort of thing, full of > >directories that take up 0 bytes, down to files that ls reports as > >4096 bytes. > > > >Is it safe to assume I don't want to backup /sys? > > Yes. That's the infamous "sysfs" stuff. You want to back up the > directory name, but not its contents. Also beware of some "dev" stuff > (from "devfs" and "udev"). > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- That's what I figured. I'm still deciding whether I want to continue just backing up root, home, etc, var, and usr/local, and restore that on to a freshly installed system, or to make a complete backup from which I can restore to a bare-metal (or possibily minimally installed) system. You won't be surprised at the reason for my sudden interest in this. Yeah, two disk crashes in the last month. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Jun 28 22:12:02 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:12:02 -0700 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <20050628215030.GB11962@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> <20050628215030.GB11962@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C1CB32.3070309@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:28:15PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>I'm in the process of checking out a CD/DVD-based backup package. >>> >>>http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html >>> >>>In my first test, I noticed in the error log a bunch of carps about >>>file sizes changing in /sys. I know that /proc is a pseudo filesystem >>>comprising nothing but hooks into the kernel, and I know that I don't >>>want to back that up. /sys looks like the same sort of thing, full of >>>directories that take up 0 bytes, down to files that ls reports as >>>4096 bytes. >>> >>>Is it safe to assume I don't want to backup /sys? >> >>Yes. That's the infamous "sysfs" stuff. You want to back up the >>directory name, but not its contents. Also beware of some "dev" stuff >>(from "devfs" and "udev"). >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>- Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>- - >>- Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > That's what I figured. > > I'm still deciding whether I want to continue just backing up root, > home, etc, var, and usr/local, and restore that on to a freshly > installed system, or to make a complete backup from which I can > restore to a bare-metal (or possibily minimally installed) system. Uhm, gee. I back up each filesystem individually with exclusions. I do this using two different methods: amanda (to DLT tapes) and using a fairly complex "find" command to build ISO images for burning to DVDs. > You won't be surprised at the reason for my sudden interest in this. > Yeah, two disk crashes in the last month. Wow! Bad hardware, power spikes or the family dog lifting his leg on the system? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do you know how to save five drowning lawyers? No? GOOD! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Jun 28 23:39:31 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:39:31 -0500 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <42C1CB32.3070309@vitalstream.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> <20050628215030.GB11962@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1CB32.3070309@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050628233931.GA5173@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:12:02PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > > >I'm still deciding whether I want to continue just backing up root, > >home, etc, var, and usr/local, and restore that on to a freshly > >installed system, or to make a complete backup from which I can > >restore to a bare-metal (or possibily minimally installed) system. > > Uhm, gee. I back up each filesystem individually with exclusions. > I do this using two different methods: amanda (to DLT tapes) and using a > fairly complex "find" command to build ISO images for burning to DVDs. I have a client that backs up to tape and to alternaing partitions on a removeable IDE drive (of which he has two that he swaps occasionally). The latter is set up to be bootable. I thought that was a little overkill, but I don't any more. > >You won't be surprised at the reason for my sudden interest in this. > >Yeah, two disk crashes in the last month. > > Wow! Bad hardware, power spikes or the family dog lifting his leg on > the system? The first was an antique 8G drive that started whining about a week before it totally augered in. I replaced it with a disk with FC2 on it from my file server that I'd replaced with a big 250GB drive, then backfilled it from backups. The other was a drive I'd bought three weeks before from a big electronics bargain house. The box had been opened so the price was reduced, but it was the only one there of the size and type I wanted. Needless to say, after returning that drive, I won't be darkening their door again. The old drive had not yet been recycled, so I put it back in. That's when I found my backup tapes were fubar. But I had good incrementals on another machine, so I got most of it back. I discovered that when I run mt it returns immediately, but the tape goes on to do the function, presumably satisfactorily. So my backup script says, in part, /bin/mt rewind /bin/mt erase /bin/mt rewind /bin/mt reten echo "backup started at `date`" > $tempfile if find $dirlist -mount -depth | cpio $cpio_opts > $TAPE 2>>$tempfile then . . . So it blows through the mt commands and rolls right in to the cpio operation, and I presume the tape starts recording mid-stream. I pulled the contents of the tape to a file, and ran "file " and it said "data". The tape is a Travan-4 in an IDE tape drive using the ide-scsi module. The device is /dev/nst0. I'm going to run a test tonight, having done the mt steps manually, and have it go straight to the cpio, and see if I get a recognizable tape. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Do you know how to save five drowning lawyers? No? GOOD! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From harold at hallikainen.com Wed Jun 29 00:00:19 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <29852.207.177.227.29.1120003219.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> > Yes. That's the infamous "sysfs" stuff. You want to back up the > directory name, but not its contents. Also beware of some "dev" stuff > (from "devfs" and "udev"). What happens if you DO back it up and later restore it. I'd guess that if the system were not running when the backup was run (like running Norton Ghost) that it would be safe to just make a drive image and then restore the image later (a true bare metal backup... kinda like a long interrupt). If, however, the system is backing itself up (I tar everything to an external USB drive weekly), what happens if you do restore these directories to their previous state? Does it really mess things up? Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From arun.nale at tcs.com Wed Jun 29 03:15:09 2005 From: arun.nale at tcs.com (arun.nale at tcs.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:45:09 +0530 Subject: uname and 64-bit OS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is i.86 means 32 bit ( I mean to say if 'uname -m' gives i686 which is generally for xeon processor is it 32 bit or 64 bit ) somewhere I read that if it shows as i.XX (means i386/i486/i586/i686) means 32 bit if it shows as i.xx-64 (i686-64) then it is 64 bit ? if i run #file /bin/ls it show me /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped does it mean my OS is 32 bit and all files are compiled in 32 bit ? output of uname -m shows i686 in my linux box (machine is a HP-xeon processor) I have installed redhatES 3.0 kernel 2.4.21-4 ELsmp. Can you give ur view please. 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Thanks in advance -RamaRao From amnassaj at yahoo.de Wed Jun 29 12:39:06 2005 From: amnassaj at yahoo.de (Ammar Nassaj) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 05:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RHEL 3.0 and SuSE 9.0 In-Reply-To: <20050628154531.6B413B6D5@xprdmailfe18.nwk.excite.com> Message-ID: <20050629123906.81625.qmail@web25603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hallo Ilya, thanks for your hints. Well, i installed Redhat on another physical hard disk and therefore it should be not on the same partition as Suse. when running cfdisk, i get the error message: Command not found. It seems I do not have this tool. Iam using now Grup boot manager and do not know how to change to Lilo. the grup file (and lilo file) are shown below. Can you advice me please what to do next? As mensioned previously, windows and Suse are installed on the first hard disk (Window on partition C. Partitions D and E were reserved for Windows as well. Suse was installed on the rest of this hard disk). Thanks alot. Ammar ---------------------------------------------------- # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd1,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdb2 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS (2.4.21-32.0.1.EL) root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.21-32.0.1.EL ro root=LABEL=/ hdc=ide-scsi initrd /initrd-2.4.21-32.0.1.EL.img title DOS rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 ----------------------------------------------------- The lilo.conf.anaconda File: prompt timeout=50 default=linux boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/message lba32 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21-32.EL label=linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.21-32.EL.img read-only append="hdc=ide-scsi root=LABEL=/" other=/dev/hda1 optional label=DOS ----------------------------------------------------- --- Ilya Fainberg wrote: > Well i really hope you didn't installed RHLE on the > same partition as Suse, if it is then i'm afraid > your Suse is lost. > You can check if the Suse partition is still in > place by running 'cfdisk' it's a text based > front-end to fdisk, very easy to use. > > If everything is ok then i can explain how to fix > the problem if you use the LILO boot manager. (I > never used GRUB so i really don't know) > > Anyhow as for LILO: > you open /etc/lilo.conf and look at it for 5 minutes > After you realize it's a damn pretty file, you > simply add the Suse partition to the list of > possible partitions to boot. > > It really is an easy Copy-Paste job. > > After you saved the file you have to run the 'lilo' > command in order for the changes to take effect. > > This is it! > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html From drumilnarayan at yahoo.com Wed Jun 29 13:14:41 2005 From: drumilnarayan at yahoo.com (drumil narayan) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:14:41 +0100 (BST) Subject: Linux Error :113 No route to host In-Reply-To: <20050629123906.81625.qmail@web25603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050629131442.15220.qmail@web8309.mail.in.yahoo.com> Hello, I installed oracle 10.1.0.2 on RHEL 4.0 successfully. It was working fine. Suddenly, it had started giving following error, while trying to connect oracle database from any windows client or on server it self.. TNS-12560:TNS: protocol Adapter Error TNS - 00530 : Protocol Adapter Error Linux error :113 : No route to host any clues will be appreciated..Drumil __________________________________________________________ Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 29 15:10:24 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:10:24 -0500 Subject: x-windows not working. locale not supported by Xlib In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629171824.02f76e10@172.16.1.10> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629171824.02f76e10@172.16.1.10> Message-ID: <20050629151024.GA1981@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 05:34:09PM +0530, RamaRao wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed Redhat 9.0 on my PC few days back. The x-windows installed > properly and is working fine. Yesterday I have installed yahoo messenger in > my PC and started using it. After few minutes some thing went wrong and > yahoo messenger got closed. After rebooting the PC, I am not able to start > x-windows. I reconfigured the x-windows using "redhat-config-xfree86 > --reconfig" and the following error message came: > Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C > Gdk-WARNING **: can not set locale modifiers > What could be the wrong and how can I fix it? > > Thanks in advance > > -RamaRao Try this and see if it helps. http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#funny_chars Yeah, I know it's not your symptom, but I think it's probably your solution. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Wed Jun 29 14:22:43 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:22:43 +0100 Subject: Linux Error :113 No route to host In-Reply-To: <20050629131442.15220.qmail@web8309.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <20050629131442.15220.qmail@web8309.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1120054962.3731.6.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 14:14, drumil narayan wrote: > Hello, > > I installed oracle 10.1.0.2 on RHEL 4.0 successfully. > It was working fine. > > Suddenly, it had started giving following error, > while trying to connect oracle database from any > windows client or on server it self.. > > TNS-12560:TNS: protocol Adapter Error > TNS - 00530 : Protocol Adapter Error > Linux error :113 : No route to host > > any clues will be appreciated..Drumil Drumil, It looks like your networking has changed. Picking the Oracle host from your tnsnames.ora file that you are trying to get to, can you ping it? If so, can you tnsping it? Either the networking on your computer has changed or something between you and the host you are trying to get to. Is the host up and running, is there a firewall change? It sounds like it will be one of these. Regards Chris From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 29 15:31:24 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:31:24 -0500 Subject: need help to install motherboard drivers in RHL 6.2 In-Reply-To: <20050629114341.11479.qmail@webmail18.rediffmail.com> References: <20050629114341.11479.qmail@webmail18.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <20050629153124.GC1981@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:43:41AM -0000, srinivas m wrote: > Hi All, > I need to install LAN and VGA drivers in my RHL 6.2 ... > downloaded mother board (LAN and VGA) drivers from Intel website. > when i untar them and execute with following procedure... > root# ./intel-100lan-2.3.27.sh > raises following error > ----------- > Starting installer, please wait > > error: -d option is not supported in on Linux > tar: option requires an argument --C > Try 'tar --help' for more info Could you post the script (intel-100lan-2.3.27.sh), or at least the part of the script with the tar command? Then we can show you how to modify the command to work on linux' GNU tar. > ./intel-100lan-2.3.27.sh: ./install.sh: No such file or director That's because tar didn't work. > ----------- > > I need this because I need to work on libc 6.1, so installing RHL 6.2 in an advanced system. > > Plz get me out of this problem... > > Thanks > Ceenu Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From john.johnston at taos.fnsb.lib.ak.us Wed Jun 29 15:07:12 2005 From: john.johnston at taos.fnsb.lib.ak.us (John Johnston) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:07:12 -0800 Subject: uname and 64-bit OS In-Reply-To: <20050629114235.4BF6373B44@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20050629114235.4BF6373B44@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: if uname reports i.xx_64 its a 64 bit system > Message: 20 > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:45:09 +0530 > From: arun.nale at tcs.com > Subject: uname and 64-bit OS > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Is i.86 means 32 bit ( I mean to say if 'uname -m' gives i686 which > is > generally for xeon processor is it 32 bit or 64 bit ) somewhere I read > that if it shows as i.XX (means i386/i486/i586/i686) means 32 bit > > if it shows as i.xx-64 (i686-64) then it is 64 bit ? > > if i run #file /bin/ls it show me /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB > executable, > Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked > (uses shared libs), stripped > > does it mean my OS is 32 bit and all files are compiled in 32 bit ? > > output of uname -m shows i686 in my linux box (machine is a HP-xeon > processor) > > I have installed redhatES 3.0 kernel 2.4.21-4 ELsmp. > > Can you give ur view please. > > Arun Sopanrao Nale From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 29 18:36:10 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:36:10 -0700 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <20050628233931.GA5173@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> <20050628215030.GB11962@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1CB32.3070309@vitalstream.com> <20050628233931.GA5173@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C2EA1A.3030508@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:12:02PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>I'm still deciding whether I want to continue just backing up root, >>>home, etc, var, and usr/local, and restore that on to a freshly >>>installed system, or to make a complete backup from which I can >>>restore to a bare-metal (or possibily minimally installed) system. >> >>Uhm, gee. I back up each filesystem individually with exclusions. >>I do this using two different methods: amanda (to DLT tapes) and using a >>fairly complex "find" command to build ISO images for burning to DVDs. > > > I have a client that backs up to tape and to alternaing partitions on > a removeable IDE drive (of which he has two that he swaps > occasionally). The latter is set up to be bootable. I thought that > was a little overkill, but I don't any more. > > >>>You won't be surprised at the reason for my sudden interest in this. >>>Yeah, two disk crashes in the last month. >> >>Wow! Bad hardware, power spikes or the family dog lifting his leg on >>the system? > > > The first was an antique 8G drive that started whining about a week > before it totally augered in. I replaced it with a disk with FC2 on > it from my file server that I'd replaced with a big 250GB drive, then > backfilled it from backups. > > The other was a drive I'd bought three weeks before from a big > electronics bargain house. The box had been opened so the price was > reduced, but it was the only one there of the size and type I wanted. > Needless to say, after returning that drive, I won't be darkening > their door again. The old drive had not yet been recycled, so I put > it back in. That's when I found my backup tapes were fubar. But I > had good incrementals on another machine, so I got most of it back. > > I discovered that when I run > > mt > > it returns immediately, but the tape goes on to do the function, > presumably satisfactorily. So my backup script says, in part, > > /bin/mt rewind > /bin/mt erase > /bin/mt rewind > /bin/mt reten > echo "backup started at `date`" > $tempfile > if find $dirlist -mount -depth | cpio $cpio_opts > $TAPE 2>>$tempfile > then > . > . > . > > So it blows through the mt commands and rolls right in to the cpio > operation, and I presume the tape starts recording mid-stream. I > pulled the contents of the tape to a file, and ran "file " > and it said "data". The tape is a Travan-4 in an IDE tape drive using > the ide-scsi module. The device is /dev/nst0. Uh, hmmmm. Have you tried /dev/st0 instead? Sometimes the "n" does do an immediate return. The ide-scsi may also be an issue. I tend to use real SCSI drives. You can get DAT drives pretty cheap now. DLTs are available on E-Bay pretty cheap, too (the tapes aren't cheap, but they're reasonable). > I'm going to run a test tonight, having done the mt steps manually, > and have it go straight to the cpio, and see if I get a recognizable > tape. Also try the /dev/st0 device and see if it behaves differently. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Linux is like a wigwam...no windows, no gates...and apache inside! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 29 18:43:12 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:43:12 -0700 Subject: uname and 64-bit OS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42C2EBC0.3010607@vitalstream.com> arun.nale at tcs.com wrote: > > Is i.86 means 32 bit ( I mean to say if 'uname -m' gives i686 which is > generally for xeon processor is it 32 bit or 64 bit ) somewhere I read > that if it shows as i.XX (means i386/i486/i586/i686) means 32 bit "i386", "i486", "i586" and "i686" and "athlon" all mean 32 bit. "x86_64" means 64 bit (Opteron or Athlon-64). "i686-64" means 32-bit operation with 64-bit address space (Intel 686 with the new memory mechanism). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "The bogosity meter just pegged." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Jun 29 19:01:06 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:01:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <42C0875A.2000404@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> <35401.207.173.117.242.1119373999.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B84D9E.5060202@vitalstream.com> <21670.198.60.114.90.1119674611.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42C0875A.2000404@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <43177.207.173.117.242.1120071666.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>> >>>>>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>On 6/16/05, Mark Knecht wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I've >>>>>>>>just unpacked a little EIDE to USB adapter device that is supposed >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>allow me to attach a raw EDIE drive to the system as a USB drive. >>>>>>>>(We'll see if it works in 20 minutes!) ;-) Anyway, I expect that >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>EIDE drive will be /dev/hda and the USB drive with be /dev/sda. >>>>>>>> Would >>>>>>>>something like this work? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Unfortunately it appears that this little USB to EIDE adapter I got >>>>>> >>>>>>>from Newegg doesn't work. (Or the drive is bad which seems unlikely) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812156001 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>It appears to me that the issue is USB 2.0, which probably isn't >>>>>>backward >>>>>>compatible to USB 1.1, which I'd bet you need in order to get it to >>>>>>work. >>>>> >>>>>Uh, USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices if that's what you mean. Note that >>>>>olders computers can't boot USB devices unless a BIOS update has been >>>>>performed. Also, USB hard disks show up as SCSI (just like just about >>>>>everything else that isn't IDE/EIDE/ATA). >>>> >>>> >>>>I beg to differ. Here at work, we install quite a few USB devices and >>>>have >>>>too many problems installing USB2.0 devices on PCs with USB1.1 >>>>ports/drivers. Yes, USB2.0 is backward compatible, however, USB1.1 >>>> isn't >>>>forward compatible and on drives we've installed that are addressed to >>>>USB2.0 and larger than about 64MB addressable memory, we have >>>>significant >>>>problems. >>> >>>If you read what I wrote, I said "USB2.0 will run USB1.1 devices". I >>>said nothing about 1.1 running 2.0 devices, which it obviously can't. >> >> >> Hey, I had a senior moment... I'm 50 now. Aren't I entitled? Okay, I >> don't >> believe in entitlements. Now what? Senility? > > Well, I'm 47. "Growing old ain't for sissies!" --Bette Davis Bette Davis was right. My daughter calls me an old FART, an acronym for Fathers Against Raising Teenagers. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Wed Jun 29 19:06:09 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:06:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Validating incoming email addresses In-Reply-To: <42C0885B.40605@vitalstream.com> References: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627174329.GB20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <40168.207.173.117.242.1119895230.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627191914.GE20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C0885B.40605@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <43191.207.173.117.242.1120071969.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:00:30PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> >>>>On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:50:43PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>> >>>>>How do I go about blocking incoming email based on validating the >>>>>sender's >>>>>email address? I am getting spam email which is from a non-existent >>>>>email >>>>>address on my own domain. A look at the header shows it's not from my >>>>>domain. I expected that. But, the From: field is from my domain >>>>>(ourldsfamily.com), even down to my server name >>>>>(moroni.ourldsfamily.com) >>>>>which NEVER sends email, per se, other than internally as in mail >>>>>generated by cron jobs. >>>>> >>>>>Too much information, but I hope you get the gist of what I need. >>>>> >>>>>TIA, >>>>> >>>>>Karl >>>> >>>>Depends on your email setup and where you want to stop the mail. If >>>>you want to stop it at the door, then it depends on what MTA >>>>(sendmail, postfix, et al.) you are using. >>>> >>>>If you want to punt it after your MTA accepts it but before delivery, >>>>I strongly recommend SpamAssassin. With or without SA, you can drop >>>>it in the bit bucket with a well-crafted recipe in your ~/.procmailrc >>>>(assuming procmail is your MDA (delivery agent)). But with SA, and >>>>assuming SA scores it as spam, then procmail can (1) divert the spam >>>>to a bucket for inspection, (2) punt spam scoring over XX points, or >>>>(3) summarily punt all identified spam (not recommended), or some >>>>combination. >>>> >>>>Let us know your constraints. I'm well versed in Postfix and >>>>SpamAssassin. >>>> >>> >>>I'm using sendmail and Spamassassin (v3.0.2) and these emails aren't >>>getting caught. >> >> >> Side note: SA vv3.0.1-3 have a known DOS vulnerability. I recommend >> upgrade to v3.0.4. >> >> >>>I have some other issues as well, such as email that is >>>clearly, to me, spam which is not being caught. The score is only .1 (my >>>threshold is set at 1.0) I guess in theory, my threshold should be 0.0 >>>rather than 1, but there are a bunch of emailers who have no clue and >>>insist on 'pretty-ing' up their email by sending HTML email (curse the >>>fool who came up with that functionality; and curse AOL for not allowing >>>anyting BUT HTML email!). >> >> >> Ouch! Threshold of 1.0? Surely you can improve things. I run with >> the default threshold of 5.0 and rarely have to feed a missed spam >> back to sa-learn. I strongly urge you to use the SpamAssassin Rules >> Emporium's (SARE) add-on rulesets and keep them updated with >> "rules_du_jour". Also make sure the SURBL (SpamAssassin URI Realtime >> BlackList) checker is working. In particular, run >> >> spamassassin -D --lint >> >> and look to see that the Net::DNS module is up to date and loading. >> >> Here are some URLs to get you started: >> >> http://spamassassin.apache.org/index.html (of course) >> http://www.rulesemporium.com/ >> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ >> http://www.surbl.org/ >> >> >>>I have a pretty complex set of procmail filters at both the enterprize >>>level and the personal level in my own account. I'm no great procmail >>>programmer as many of my rules are copied/tested and retested until they >>>work 'right'. I may be wrong, but optimally, I think I'd like to have >>>sendmail refuse delivery of email which isn't a user on my domain. >> >> >> I use this, too: >> >> http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html >> >> >>>However >>>if it's better to have procmail do it, I'm all over that, too. >>> >>>Thanks Bob. (and any others who have experience and can help) >>> >>>Karl >> >> >> Finally, I recommend you joint the SA mailing list at least long >> enough to get to where you need to set your spam threshold back to >> 5.0: >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists >> >> Let me know, on or off list, if you need any additional help. > > You should also NOT accept mail from non-resolvable hosts, e.g. make > sure "accept_unresolveable_domains" is turned OFF in your sendmail.mc > file. I just checked and it was enabled. I put dnl and then m4 sendmail.mc > sendmail.cf then service sendmail restart, then telnet locahost 25 and did a mail from: me at badomain.com and it wouldn't accept it. Cool. Thanks Rick. I thought that was turned off by default. If so, I just have turned it on for whatever reason. Karl > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Wed Jun 29 19:41:02 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:41:02 -0500 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <42C2EA1A.3030508@vitalstream.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1C0EF.2080004@vitalstream.com> <20050628215030.GB11962@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C1CB32.3070309@vitalstream.com> <20050628233931.GA5173@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C2EA1A.3030508@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050629194102.GA13133@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:36:10AM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:12:02PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> > > > >I discovered that when I run > > > > mt > > > >it returns immediately, but the tape goes on to do the function, > >presumably satisfactorily. So my backup script says, in part, > > > >/bin/mt rewind > >/bin/mt erase > >/bin/mt rewind > >/bin/mt reten > >echo "backup started at `date`" > $tempfile > >if find $dirlist -mount -depth | cpio $cpio_opts > $TAPE 2>>$tempfile > >then > > . > > . > > . > > > >So it blows through the mt commands and rolls right in to the cpio > >operation, and I presume the tape starts recording mid-stream. I > >pulled the contents of the tape to a file, and ran "file " > >and it said "data". The tape is a Travan-4 in an IDE tape drive using > >the ide-scsi module. The device is /dev/nst0. > > Uh, hmmmm. Have you tried /dev/st0 instead? Sometimes the "n" does > do an immediate return. The ide-scsi may also be an issue. I tend to > use real SCSI drives. You can get DAT drives pretty cheap now. DLTs > are available on E-Bay pretty cheap, too (the tapes aren't cheap, but > they're reasonable). Nah. I have a CD/DVD burner, now, so I'm going to a combination of CDs or DVDs for full backup and incrementals to a disk on a different machine. > >I'm going to run a test tonight, having done the mt steps manually, > >and have it go straight to the cpio, and see if I get a recognizable > >tape. Well, the answer is, I didn't. I checked it using cat $TAPE | cpio -it and all it did was "shoeshine" the tape with no output. Interestingly, /var/log/messages says, Jun 29 14:21:59 bobcat kernel: st0: Error with sense data: <6>st0: Current: sense key: Illegal Request Jun 29 14:21:59 bobcat kernel: Additional sense: Invalid command operation code Jun 29 14:22:54 bobcat kernel: st0: Error with sense data: <6>st0: Current: sense key: Illegal Request Jun 29 14:22:54 bobcat kernel: Additional sense: Invalid command operation code Doesn't that look like a kernel (module) bug? I'd blame the tape drive, but I have another one like it in another machine and it does the same thing. > Also try the /dev/st0 device and see if it behaves differently. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Linux is like a wigwam...no windows, no gates...and apache inside! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 29 21:17:22 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:17:22 -0700 Subject: cloning a boot partition In-Reply-To: <43177.207.173.117.242.1120071666.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05061611117c5fa571@mail.gmail.com> <45680d1e05061613118605b29@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b050616132756ca3e25@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b05061614084024d610@mail.gmail.com> <12585.198.60.114.90.1119066846.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B70AC4.2000209@vitalstream.com> <35401.207.173.117.242.1119373999.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42B84D9E.5060202@vitalstream.com> <21670.198.60.114.90.1119674611.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <42C0875A.2000404@vitalstream.com> <43177.207.173.117.242.1120071666.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <42C30FE2.4050604@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: [snip] >>>Hey, I had a senior moment... I'm 50 now. Aren't I entitled? Okay, I >>>don't >>>believe in entitlements. Now what? Senility? >> >>Well, I'm 47. "Growing old ain't for sissies!" --Bette Davis > > > Bette Davis was right. My daughter calls me an old FART, an acronym for > Fathers Against Raising Teenagers. Heheheheh! :-) I use it another way when addressing youngsters: "I'm so old, I fart dust!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 29 21:23:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:23:31 -0700 Subject: Validating incoming email addresses In-Reply-To: <43191.207.173.117.242.1120071969.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <21834.198.60.114.90.1119675043.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627174329.GB20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <40168.207.173.117.242.1119895230.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <20050627191914.GE20984@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C0885B.40605@vitalstream.com> <43191.207.173.117.242.1120071969.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <42C31153.70103@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >>>On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:00:30PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 10:50:43PM -0600, karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>How do I go about blocking incoming email based on validating the >>>>>>sender's >>>>>>email address? I am getting spam email which is from a non-existent >>>>>>email >>>>>>address on my own domain. A look at the header shows it's not from my >>>>>>domain. I expected that. But, the From: field is from my domain >>>>>>(ourldsfamily.com), even down to my server name >>>>>>(moroni.ourldsfamily.com) >>>>>>which NEVER sends email, per se, other than internally as in mail >>>>>>generated by cron jobs. >>>>>> >>>>>>Too much information, but I hope you get the gist of what I need. >>>>>> >>>>>>TIA, >>>>>> >>>>>>Karl >>>>> >>>>>Depends on your email setup and where you want to stop the mail. If >>>>>you want to stop it at the door, then it depends on what MTA >>>>>(sendmail, postfix, et al.) you are using. >>>>> >>>>>If you want to punt it after your MTA accepts it but before delivery, >>>>>I strongly recommend SpamAssassin. With or without SA, you can drop >>>>>it in the bit bucket with a well-crafted recipe in your ~/.procmailrc >>>>>(assuming procmail is your MDA (delivery agent)). But with SA, and >>>>>assuming SA scores it as spam, then procmail can (1) divert the spam >>>>>to a bucket for inspection, (2) punt spam scoring over XX points, or >>>>>(3) summarily punt all identified spam (not recommended), or some >>>>>combination. >>>>> >>>>>Let us know your constraints. I'm well versed in Postfix and >>>>>SpamAssassin. >>>>> >>>> >>>>I'm using sendmail and Spamassassin (v3.0.2) and these emails aren't >>>>getting caught. >>> >>> >>>Side note: SA vv3.0.1-3 have a known DOS vulnerability. I recommend >>>upgrade to v3.0.4. >>> >>> >>> >>>>I have some other issues as well, such as email that is >>>>clearly, to me, spam which is not being caught. The score is only .1 (my >>>>threshold is set at 1.0) I guess in theory, my threshold should be 0.0 >>>>rather than 1, but there are a bunch of emailers who have no clue and >>>>insist on 'pretty-ing' up their email by sending HTML email (curse the >>>>fool who came up with that functionality; and curse AOL for not allowing >>>>anyting BUT HTML email!). >>> >>> >>>Ouch! Threshold of 1.0? Surely you can improve things. I run with >>>the default threshold of 5.0 and rarely have to feed a missed spam >>>back to sa-learn. I strongly urge you to use the SpamAssassin Rules >>>Emporium's (SARE) add-on rulesets and keep them updated with >>>"rules_du_jour". Also make sure the SURBL (SpamAssassin URI Realtime >>>BlackList) checker is working. In particular, run >>> >>> spamassassin -D --lint >>> >>>and look to see that the Net::DNS module is up to date and loading. >>> >>>Here are some URLs to get you started: >>> >>>http://spamassassin.apache.org/index.html (of course) >>>http://www.rulesemporium.com/ >>>http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ >>>http://www.surbl.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>>>I have a pretty complex set of procmail filters at both the enterprize >>>>level and the personal level in my own account. I'm no great procmail >>>>programmer as many of my rules are copied/tested and retested until they >>>>work 'right'. I may be wrong, but optimally, I think I'd like to have >>>>sendmail refuse delivery of email which isn't a user on my domain. >>> >>> >>>I use this, too: >>> >>>http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html >>> >>> >>> >>>>However >>>>if it's better to have procmail do it, I'm all over that, too. >>>> >>>>Thanks Bob. (and any others who have experience and can help) >>>> >>>>Karl >>> >>> >>>Finally, I recommend you joint the SA mailing list at least long >>>enough to get to where you need to set your spam threshold back to >>>5.0: >>> >>>http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists >>> >>>Let me know, on or off list, if you need any additional help. >> >>You should also NOT accept mail from non-resolvable hosts, e.g. make >>sure "accept_unresolveable_domains" is turned OFF in your sendmail.mc >>file. > > > I just checked and it was enabled. I put dnl and then m4 sendmail.mc > > sendmail.cf then service sendmail restart, then telnet locahost 25 and did > a mail from: me at badomain.com and it wouldn't accept it. Cool. Thanks Rick. No problem, Karl. Bogus domains are one favorite spammer tool. I also have rules that check to see if a sending system will accept SMTP connections. If not, I check their MX. If there's no MX or the MX doesn't accept SMTP either, then they're a farking spammer and get blacklisted by me and reported. I also have entire /8 networks in China, Korea, Japan and Brazil blocked via iptables because of the amount of spam from there. If it were up to me, I'd cut their fibers to the rest of the world. "You don't want to play by the rules? Fine. Play with yourself. Leave the rest of us alone." > I thought that was turned off by default. If so, I just have turned it on > for whatever reason. I thought it was supposed to be blocked, too. Hmmmmm..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fruiz at tsitrucks.com Wed Jun 29 21:52:39 2005 From: fruiz at tsitrucks.com (Francisco Ruiz) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:52:39 -0500 Subject: New server. Message-ID: <005701c57cf4$dedeb950$4508a8c0@dallas69> Will some one advice on OS and Server specs for server that will join a domain and authenticate users via domain and run 10 sessions of the ltsp it will also share one common share as a data base for 45 application sessions running on win machines. F,Ruiz. Data Systems Administrator. Transportation Services Inc. Phone (972)288-8397 X35 Fax (972)289-8410 email:fruiz at tsitrucks.com From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Jun 29 23:35:51 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:35:51 -0700 Subject: New server. In-Reply-To: <005701c57cf4$dedeb950$4508a8c0@dallas69> References: <005701c57cf4$dedeb950$4508a8c0@dallas69> Message-ID: <42C33057.1000008@vitalstream.com> Francisco Ruiz wrote: > Will some one advice on OS and Server specs for server that will join a > domain and authenticate users via domain and run 10 sessions of the ltsp > it will also share one common share as a data base for 45 application > sessions running on win machines. Any standard RedHat Enterprise server product (ES/AS3 or ES/AS4) or Fedora Core will do it. You need to configure Samba to join the domain and authenticate from the PDC. I HIGHLY recommend you purchase the O'Reilly "Using Samba, 2nd Edition" book for details on how to do it. It's not difficult but more involved than I can tell you on the list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I won't rise to the occasion, but I'll slide over to it. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From cbuxton at mac.com Thu Jun 30 01:00:31 2005 From: cbuxton at mac.com (Chris Buxton) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:00:31 -0700 Subject: kernel panic during install - can't find root device Message-ID: I'm trying to install FC4 for x86-64. Details: - two AMD Opteron 244's - 2GB of RAM - booting from DVD (/dev/hdc) - I verified the sha1 hash - hard drive is on the second SATA controller, which under Debian showed up as /dev/sda At the boot prompt, I've tried the default setting plus the following commands: linux text linux root=/dev/hdc With the default setting, it claims it can't mount root device . If I set the root device to /dev/hdc, it complains that it can't find something like "init" - it's hard to catch, since the debugging trace information fills the screen shortly thereafter. Does anyone know what I should enter at the boot prompt? Thanks in advance, Chris Buxton From cbuxton at mac.com Thu Jun 30 01:33:09 2005 From: cbuxton at mac.com (Chris Buxton) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:33:09 -0700 Subject: kernel panic during install - can't find root device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got it to work once with "linux root=/dev/hdc", but then during installation, the kernel had a problem with /dev/sda. And it hasn't worked again since. If I specify the root device, except for that one time, it suggests I pass another option, "init=". What value should I assign to "init"? I'm using an nForce3-based motherboard. I've tried messing with BIOS settings (loading alternately "failsafe" and "optimal" defaults). Any hints for me? Thanks in advance, Chris Buxton On Jun 29, 2005, at 6:00 PM, Chris Buxton wrote: > I'm trying to install FC4 for x86-64. Details: > > - two AMD Opteron 244's > - 2GB of RAM > - booting from DVD (/dev/hdc) - I verified the sha1 hash > - hard drive is on the second SATA controller, which under Debian > showed up as /dev/sda > > At the boot prompt, I've tried the default setting plus the > following commands: > > linux text > linux root=/dev/hdc > > With the default setting, it claims it can't mount root device > . If I set the root device to /dev/hdc, it complains that it > can't find something like "init" - it's hard to catch, since the > debugging trace information fills the screen shortly thereafter. > > Does anyone know what I should enter at the boot prompt? > > Thanks in advance, > Chris Buxton > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From blackhat- at excite.com Thu Jun 30 06:29:09 2005 From: blackhat- at excite.com (Ilya Fainberg) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: kernel panic during install - can't find root device Message-ID: <20050630062909.0B7FFB701@xprdmailfe17.nwk.excite.com> --- On Wed 06/29, Chris Buxton wrote: From: Chris Buxton [mailto: cbuxton at mac.com] To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:00:31 -0700 Subject: kernel panic during install - can't find root device I'm trying to install FC4 for x86-64. Details:- two AMD Opteron 244's- 2GB of RAM- booting from DVD (/dev/hdc) - I verified the sha1 hash- hard drive is on the second SATA controller, which under Debian showed up as /dev/sdaAt the boot prompt, I've tried the default setting plus the following commands:linux textlinux root=/dev/hdcWith the default setting, it claims it can't mount root device . If I set the root device to /dev/hdc, it complains that it can't find something like "init" - it's hard to catch, since the debugging trace information fills the screen shortly thereafter.Does anyone know what I should enter at the boot prompt?Thanks in advance,Chris Buxton_______________________________________________Redhat-install-list mailing listRedhat-install-list at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-listTo Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to:redhat-install-list-request at redhat.comSubject: unsubscribe Well i heard about some stupid way to fix the Kernel Panic thing during setup, it didn't helped me to with my RHEL 4 AS but it did helped most people, here how it goes: you boot from the DVD (or the CD) it shows a pretty thing called "boot:" first you write "mediacheck", and hit Enter It shows an error, then you write "linux mediacheck" and hit Enter again. It sounds stupid, i know, but the strange thing is that it works... sometimes :) _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drumilnarayan at yahoo.com Thu Jun 30 10:05:59 2005 From: drumilnarayan at yahoo.com (drumil narayan) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:05:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Linux Error :113 No route to host In-Reply-To: <1120054962.3731.6.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> Message-ID: <20050630100559.61780.qmail@web8304.mail.in.yahoo.com> Hi Chris, its pinging to and from othere clients. its tnspinging on server correctly. its not tnspinging from clients. On server am able to database with and without connect string. what could be the problem..thanx in advance..Drumil --- Chris Hewitt wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 14:14, drumil narayan wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I installed oracle 10.1.0.2 on RHEL 4.0 > successfully. > > It was working fine. > > > > Suddenly, it had started giving following error, > > while trying to connect oracle database from any > > windows client or on server it self.. > > > > TNS-12560:TNS: protocol Adapter Error > > TNS - 00530 : Protocol Adapter Error > > Linux error :113 : No route to host > > > > any clues will be appreciated..Drumil > > Drumil, > > It looks like your networking has changed. Picking > the Oracle host from > your tnsnames.ora file that you are trying to get > to, can you ping it? > If so, can you tnsping it? > > Either the networking on your computer has changed > or something between > you and the host you are trying to get to. Is the > host up and running, > is there a firewall change? > > It sounds like it will be one of these. > > Regards > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > __________________________________________________________ Free antispam, antivirus and 1GB to save all your messages Only in Yahoo! Mail: http://in.mail.yahoo.com From fab at s-tunnel.com Thu Jun 30 13:45:29 2005 From: fab at s-tunnel.com (Alexey Fadyushin) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:45:29 +0400 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C3F779.1050408@s-tunnel.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: >I'm in the process of checking out a CD/DVD-based backup package. > >http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html > >In my first test, I noticed in the error log a bunch of carps about >file sizes changing in /sys. I know that /proc is a pseudo filesystem >comprising nothing but hooks into the kernel, and I know that I don't >want to back that up. /sys looks like the same sort of thing, full of >directories that take up 0 bytes, down to files that ls reports as >4096 bytes. > >Is it safe to assume I don't want to backup /sys? > >Cheers, > > /sys is a mount point for sysfs filesystem. Sysfs is a virtual filesystem similar to procfs in 2.6 line of Linux kernels. From the kerlnel documentation (menuconfig help): The sysfs filesystem is a virtual filesystem that the kernel uses to export internal kernel objects, their attributes, and their relationships to one another. Therefore, you do not need to backup it, the filesystem and its content will be recreated by kernel when mounted. Alexey Fadyushin. Brainbench MVP for Linux http://www.brainbench.com From uhorn at csir.co.za Thu Jun 30 13:45:48 2005 From: uhorn at csir.co.za (Uli Horn) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:45:48 +0200 Subject: SCSI woes Message-ID: Hi I have a Dell Xeon with a Fijitsu MAT3073NP SCSI HDD. When I try to install RedHat Enterprise ws 3 it does not find the SCSI drive. What do I do? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Jun 30 15:04:19 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:04:19 -0500 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <42C3F779.1050408@s-tunnel.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C3F779.1050408@s-tunnel.com> Message-ID: <20050630150419.GB16656@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:45:29PM +0400, Alexey Fadyushin wrote: > Bob McClure Jr wrote: > > >I'm in the process of checking out a CD/DVD-based backup package. > > > >http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html > > > >In my first test, I noticed in the error log a bunch of carps about > >file sizes changing in /sys. I know that /proc is a pseudo filesystem > >comprising nothing but hooks into the kernel, and I know that I don't > >want to back that up. /sys looks like the same sort of thing, full of > >directories that take up 0 bytes, down to files that ls reports as > >4096 bytes. > > > >Is it safe to assume I don't want to backup /sys? > > > >Cheers, > > > > > /sys is a mount point for sysfs filesystem. Sysfs is a virtual > filesystem similar to procfs in 2.6 line of Linux kernels. > From the kerlnel documentation (menuconfig help): > > The sysfs filesystem is a virtual filesystem that the kernel uses to > export internal kernel objects, their attributes, and their > relationships to one another. > > Therefore, you do not need to backup it, the filesystem and its content > will be recreated by kernel when mounted. > > Alexey Fadyushin. > Brainbench MVP for Linux > http://www.brainbench.com Ok, now I have a question. "mount" shows (among other things) none on /proc type proc (rw) but no equivalent for /sys. If I cd / find . -depth -mount | cpio -o .... I know it will record /proc but none of its contents. Will it treat /sys the same way? Or would a restore from such a backup be innocuous as far as the contents of /sys goes? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com God doesn't have (or need) a Plan B. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 30 18:05:14 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:05:14 -0700 Subject: backing up /sys In-Reply-To: <20050630150419.GB16656@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050628192437.GA6965@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <42C3F779.1050408@s-tunnel.com> <20050630150419.GB16656@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <42C4345A.7060407@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:45:29PM +0400, Alexey Fadyushin wrote: > >>Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> >> >>>I'm in the process of checking out a CD/DVD-based backup package. >>> >>>http://www.bluehaze.com.au/unix/cdbkup.html >>> >>>In my first test, I noticed in the error log a bunch of carps about >>>file sizes changing in /sys. I know that /proc is a pseudo filesystem >>>comprising nothing but hooks into the kernel, and I know that I don't >>>want to back that up. /sys looks like the same sort of thing, full of >>>directories that take up 0 bytes, down to files that ls reports as >>>4096 bytes. >>> >>>Is it safe to assume I don't want to backup /sys? >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>> >> >>/sys is a mount point for sysfs filesystem. Sysfs is a virtual >>filesystem similar to procfs in 2.6 line of Linux kernels. >>From the kerlnel documentation (menuconfig help): >> >>The sysfs filesystem is a virtual filesystem that the kernel uses to >>export internal kernel objects, their attributes, and their >>relationships to one another. >> >>Therefore, you do not need to backup it, the filesystem and its content >>will be recreated by kernel when mounted. >> >>Alexey Fadyushin. >>Brainbench MVP for Linux >>http://www.brainbench.com > > > Ok, now I have a question. "mount" shows (among other things) > > none on /proc type proc (rw) > > but no equivalent for /sys. If I > > cd / > find . -depth -mount | cpio -o .... > > I know it will record /proc but none of its contents. Will it treat > /sys the same way? Or would a restore from such a backup be innocuous > as far as the contents of /sys goes? It should, but /sys and /proc are virtual. You really only need the mountpoints themselves and not their contents. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do not taunt the sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Jun 30 18:07:19 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:07:19 -0700 Subject: SCSI woes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42C434D7.8030805@vitalstream.com> Uli Horn wrote: > Hi > > I have a Dell Xeon with a Fijitsu MAT3073NP SCSI HDD. When I try to > install RedHat Enterprise ws 3 it does not find the SCSI drive. What do > I do? Which SCSI controller is that connected to? It's not that the drive can't be seen, it's that no driver has been loaded for the SCSI controller. You should also check Dell's website to see if they have a driver disk for RHEL3 for that machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Hello. My PID is Inigo Montoya. You `kill -9'-ed my parent - - process. Prepare to vi." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajai at bway.net Thu Jun 30 18:25:17 2005 From: ajai at bway.net (A. Khattri) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SCSI woes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Uli Horn wrote: > I have a Dell Xeon with a Fijitsu MAT3073NP SCSI HDD. When I try to > install RedHat Enterprise ws 3 it does not find the SCSI drive. What do > I do? What chipset is the SCSI controller? If you dont know, then try reading the serial number or service tag from the back of the machine, then go to DELL's support web site and enter it there to get all the specs on your machine. -- From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Thu Jun 30 18:27:10 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:27:10 +0100 Subject: Linux Error :113 No route to host In-Reply-To: <20050630100559.61780.qmail@web8304.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <20050630100559.61780.qmail@web8304.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1120156029.4466.8.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> PS Bottom posting is preferred here (put your comments at the end). I'll reorder this. > On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 11:05, drumil narayan wrote: > --- Chris Hewitt wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 14:14, drumil narayan wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I installed oracle 10.1.0.2 on RHEL 4.0 > > successfully. > > > It was working fine. > > > > > > Suddenly, it had started giving following error, > > > while trying to connect oracle database from any > > > windows client or on server it self.. > > > > > > TNS-12560:TNS: protocol Adapter Error > > > TNS - 00530 : Protocol Adapter Error > > > Linux error :113 : No route to host > > > > > > any clues will be appreciated..Drumil > > > > Drumil, > > > > It looks like your networking has changed. Picking > > the Oracle host from > > your tnsnames.ora file that you are trying to get > > to, can you ping it? > > If so, can you tnsping it? > > > > Either the networking on your computer has changed > > or something between > > you and the host you are trying to get to. Is the > > host up and running, > > is there a firewall change? > > > > It sounds like it will be one of these. > > > > Regards > > > > Chris > > > Hi Chris, > > its pinging to and from othere clients. > its tnspinging on server correctly. > its not tnspinging from clients. > On server am able to database with and without connect > string. > > what could be the problem..thanx in advance..Drumil I need to get this clear. The computer with RHEL on is the database server? On the server, you can connect to the database (e.g. using sqlplus) giving it the tnsnames.ora entry (not just the default blank entry)? >From other (client) computers you can ping the server, and tnsping the server? Is this tnsping using the server hostname or an entry in tnsnames.ora? If you can successfully tnsping from a client using a tnsnames.ora entry then you should be able to connect to the database. The no route to host error I think can only be one of the things I said. It does seem like something in your networking has changed, these things do not happen by themselves. What can you think of that has changed? Regards Chris