From danny.gibson at cingular.com Tue Mar 1 01:24:13 2005 From: danny.gibson at cingular.com (Gibson, Danny) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:24:13 -0600 Subject: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic Message-ID: Howdy Ya, I just finished a long download of the RedHat 9 iso files from ftp.redhat.com and created my installation disk. I also used the MD5 checksum after the download and they verified OK. The problem I am encountering is that once the install starts I encounter the following error and the install craters: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic The hardware is as follows: Pentium III 550MHz 384 MB RAM Intel i440BX chipset Primary IDE controller - 20G IDE Hard Drive - No partitions defined Secondary IDE controller - Toshiba CD-ROM drive I have tried burning new CD/ROM disk at the slowest speed but incur the same exact error. I have Mandrake 8.2 install CD/ROM that will install with no problem on this same machine. I am at a lost as to what the issue might be and what to try next in an attempt to get this installed. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Danny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 1 02:03:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:03:37 -0800 Subject: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4223CD79.6040803@vitalstream.com> Gibson, Danny wrote: > Howdy Ya, > > > > I just finished a long download of the RedHat 9 iso files from > ftp.redhat.com and created my installation > disk. I also used the MD5 checksum after the download and they verified > OK. The problem I am encountering is that once the install starts I > encounter the following error and the install craters: > > > > *error 2 reading header: **cpio**: Bad **magic** * > > > > The hardware is as follows: > > > > *Pentium III 550MHz* > > *384 MB RAM* > > *Intel i440BX chipset* > > *Primary IDE controller - 20G IDE Hard Drive ? No partitions defined* > > *Secondary IDE controller - Toshiba CD-ROM drive* > > > > I have tried burning new CD/ROM disk at the slowest speed but incur the > same exact error. > > I have Mandrake 8.2 install CD/ROM that will install with no problem on > this same machine. > > I am at a lost as to what the issue might be and what to try next in an > attempt to get this installed. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Are you certain you burned the CDs correctly? By that, I mean, if you put the CDs into live machine and look at them, do you see a bunch of files or just one. If you see only one, you burned the CDs wrong. ISO images are images of entire CDs and must be burned that way. In your CD burning software, make sure you select the input as "ISO image". Some instructions are at: http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From danny.gibson at cingular.com Tue Mar 1 02:19:33 2005 From: danny.gibson at cingular.com (Gibson, Danny) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:19:33 -0600 Subject: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic Message-ID: Yes, when I view the CD in my Windows box the following is displayed. The files definitively appear to be there. I can browse the CD into each sub-directory. This box will load Win98, NT4.0, XP and Mandrake 8.2 with no problem. I would think if there was a hardware problem the other OS's shouldn't install. Do you think it is possible that the iso image itself may have an issue? D:\>dir /s Volume in drive D is Red Hat Linux_i3 Volume Serial Number is 5DA7-B491 *.* I didn't display them all here... Total Files Listed: 655 File(s) 675,566,545 bytes 48 Dir(s) 0 bytes free Danny -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:04 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic Gibson, Danny wrote: > Howdy Ya, > > > > I just finished a long download of the RedHat 9 iso files from > ftp.redhat.com and created my installation > disk. I also used the MD5 checksum after the download and they verified > OK. The problem I am encountering is that once the install starts I > encounter the following error and the install craters: > > > > *error 2 reading header: **cpio**: Bad **magic** * > > > > The hardware is as follows: > > > > *Pentium III 550MHz* > > *384 MB RAM* > > *Intel i440BX chipset* > > *Primary IDE controller - 20G IDE Hard Drive - No partitions defined* > > *Secondary IDE controller - Toshiba CD-ROM drive* > > > > I have tried burning new CD/ROM disk at the slowest speed but incur the > same exact error. > > I have Mandrake 8.2 install CD/ROM that will install with no problem on > this same machine. > > I am at a lost as to what the issue might be and what to try next in an > attempt to get this installed. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Are you certain you burned the CDs correctly? By that, I mean, if you put the CDs into live machine and look at them, do you see a bunch of files or just one. If you see only one, you burned the CDs wrong. 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URL: From roland at cat.be Tue Mar 1 16:14:50 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:14:50 +0100 Subject: boot problem In-Reply-To: <41F68484.3090208@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <000001c51e79$cc28a8e0$c701a8c0@pccat03> Hi, I have the following problem. When a Siemens primergy server boots he stops at "start local services", just after he starts service rhnsd. He stays at this line forever. When I boot with the "I" prompt and skip local services he continues. What is or are the local services? Anybody any idea? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 1 17:07:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:07:27 -0800 Subject: boot problem In-Reply-To: <000001c51e79$cc28a8e0$c701a8c0@pccat03> References: <000001c51e79$cc28a8e0$c701a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <4224A14F.40206@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > Hi, > > I have the following problem. > When a Siemens primergy server boots he stops at "start local services", > just after he starts service rhnsd. > He stays at this line forever. > When I boot with the "I" prompt and skip local services he continues. > What is or are the local services? You didn't say what kind of system this is. Anyway, you could do the following: cd /etc/rc.d grep -ri services * That will search all startup scripts to find the phrase "services". Find the script that contains that word and look at it to find which services it starts. One of those is the culprit (odds are it depends on the network somehow) BTW, rhnsd is the Red Hat update daemon. It queries the Red Hat network to see if there are new updates to be applied (you know...it drives that checkmark-arrow-exclamation-point icon in the toolbar). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - You know you've landed gear-up when it takes full power to taxi. - - -- Chuck Yeager - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From campbell at accelinc.com Tue Mar 1 17:17:49 2005 From: campbell at accelinc.com (Chuck Campbell) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:17:49 -0600 Subject: RHEL up2date issue In-Reply-To: <4224A14F.40206@vitalstream.com> References: <000001c51e79$cc28a8e0$c701a8c0@pccat03> <4224A14F.40206@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050301171749.GA21009@helium.inexs.com> I've just taken delivery of two dual AMD 64 bit boxes to build a small cluster from. I installed and entitled each of them with RHEL 3 update 2. When I click on the up2date button, there were LOTS of things to update, which took some time. Unfortunately, with both boxes, I cannot update the following: bind* net-snmp* rmp* all insist that they have dependency problems and require certain libraries. all of the required libraries are present in /usr/lib64 What am I doing wrong? thanks, -chuck From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 1 17:20:13 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:20:13 -0800 Subject: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4224A44D.8090807@vitalstream.com> Gibson, Danny wrote: > Yes, when I view the CD in my Windows box the following is displayed. > The files definitively appear to be there. I can browse the CD into > each sub-directory. This box will load Win98, NT4.0, XP and Mandrake > 8.2 with no problem. I would think if there was a hardware problem the > other OS's shouldn't install. Do you think it is possible that the iso > image itself may have an issue? Sure. You said that the MD5 checksum of the ISO image was correct, right? You can run the MD5 checksum on the burned disk as well: md5sum /dev/cdrom Do NOT run the checksum on the mount point (/mnt/cdrom)--do it to the raw device. Things to consider: 1. Don't burn at the highest speed your drive can do (you're already doing that). 2. Make sure you use 700MB media--not 650MB media. The ISOs completely fill a 650MB media and the outer edge of CD-ROM media is not reliable. Use 700MB CDRs. 3. Use only name-brand media (I use TDK or Maxell mostly). 4. Check the checksum of the burned media as shown above. 5. You can try turning off DMA operations on the CD-ROM drive during the installation. Assuming your CD-ROM is the primary device on the secondary controller (or device /dev/hdc): boot: linux hdc=nodma Is there a reason you're using RH9? It reached end of life almost a year ago and only the Fedora Legacy project supports it now. The latest "free" Red Hat Linux is Fedora Core 3. FC3 should work with the 384MB of RAM you have, although the odds are the system will do some swapping. I'd get the thing up to 512MB if possible. > > D:\>dir /s > Volume in drive D is Red Hat Linux_i3 > Volume Serial Number is 5DA7-B491 > > *.* I didn't display them all here... > > Total Files Listed: > 655 File(s) 675,566,545 bytes > 48 Dir(s) 0 bytes free > > Danny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:04 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic > > Gibson, Danny wrote: > > Howdy Ya, > > > > > > > > I just finished a long download of the RedHat 9 iso files from > > ftp.redhat.com and created my installation > > disk. I also used the MD5 checksum after the download and they verified > > OK. The problem I am encountering is that once the install starts I > > encounter the following error and the install craters: > > > > > > > > *error 2 reading header: **cpio**: Bad **magic** * > > > > > > > > The hardware is as follows: > > > > > > > > *Pentium III 550MHz* > > > > *384 MB RAM* > > > > *Intel i440BX chipset* > > > > *Primary IDE controller - 20G IDE Hard Drive - No partitions defined* > > > > *Secondary IDE controller - Toshiba CD-ROM drive* > > > > > > > > I have tried burning new CD/ROM disk at the slowest speed but incur the > > same exact error. > > > > I have Mandrake 8.2 install CD/ROM that will install with no problem on > > this same machine. > > > > I am at a lost as to what the issue might be and what to try next in an > > attempt to get this installed. > > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Are you certain you burned the CDs correctly? By that, I mean, if you > put the CDs into live machine and look at them, do you see a bunch of > files or just one. If you see only one, you burned the CDs wrong. > > ISO images are images of entire CDs and must be burned that way. In > your CD burning software, make sure you select the input as "ISO image". > Some instructions are at: > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 1 17:31:04 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:31:04 -0800 Subject: RHEL up2date issue In-Reply-To: <20050301171749.GA21009@helium.inexs.com> References: <000001c51e79$cc28a8e0$c701a8c0@pccat03> <4224A14F.40206@vitalstream.com> <20050301171749.GA21009@helium.inexs.com> Message-ID: <4224A6D8.8080409@vitalstream.com> Chuck Campbell wrote: > I've just taken delivery of two dual AMD 64 bit boxes to build a small cluster > from. > > I installed and entitled each of them with RHEL 3 update 2. > > When I click on the up2date button, there were LOTS of things to update, which > took some time. > > Unfortunately, with both boxes, I cannot update the following: > > bind* > net-snmp* > rmp* I think you mean "rpm*" there. > all insist that they have dependency problems and require certain libraries. > > all of the required libraries are present in /usr/lib64 > > What am I doing wrong? Dunno. It sounds like Red Hat didn't build the RPMs correctly. I'd see if the RPMs made it into the cache on your system (/var/spool/up2date). If so, then try a manual RPM command: rpm -Fvh bind*.rpm net-snmp*.rpm rpm*.rpm By specifying the suspect items on the command line, rpm can do a better job of resolving dependencies. If it still complains, call Red Hat or bugzilla the problem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From roland at cat.be Tue Mar 1 17:46:23 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 18:46:23 +0100 Subject: boot problem In-Reply-To: <4224A14F.40206@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <000101c51e86$95dfcbd0$c701a8c0@pccat03> roland brouwers wrote: > Hi, > > I have the following problem. > When a Siemens primergy server boots he stops at "start local services", > just after he starts service rhnsd. > He stays at this line forever. > When I boot with the "I" prompt and skip local services he continues. > What is or are the local services? You didn't say what kind of system this is. Anyway, you could do the following: cd /etc/rc.d grep -ri services * That will search all startup scripts to find the phrase "services". Find the script that contains that word and look at it to find which services it starts. One of those is the culprit (odds are it depends on the network somehow) BTW, rhnsd is the Red Hat update daemon. It queries the Red Hat network to see if there are new updates to be applied (you know...it drives that checkmark-arrow-exclamation-point icon in the toolbar). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- BTW, it is RH9 Here is a copy of the output. As you can see, all the services mentionned, are services he already started before asking about local services, or am I understanding this wrongly. Output of : grep -ri services * init.d/killall:# Bring down all unneeded services that are still running (there shouldn't init.d/pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" init.d/pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" init.d/gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " init.d/gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " init.d/nscd:# slow naming services like NIS, NIS+, LDAP, or esiod. init.d/isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services init.d/nfs:# the NFS services. init.d/nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r init.d/nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services init.d/nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au init.d/ypbind: echo -n $"Shutting down NIS services: " init.d/winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " init.d/winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " init.d/smb:# used to provide SMB network services. init.d/smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " init.d/smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " init.d/smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " init.d/smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " init.d/xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ init.d/xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services - init.d/vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. init.d/ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " init.d/ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc:# services when the runlevel changes. rc0.d/S00killall:# Bring down all unneeded services that are still running (there shouldn't rc0.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" rc0.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" rc0.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " rc0.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " rc0.d/K91isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services rc0.d/K20nfs:# the NFS services. rc0.d/K20nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r rc0.d/K20nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services rc0.d/K20nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au rc0.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc0.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc0.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc0.d/K50xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ rc0.d/K50xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services rc0.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. rc0.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " rc0.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc1.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" rc1.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" rc1.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " rc1.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " rc1.d/K91isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services rc1.d/K20nfs:# the NFS services. rc1.d/K20nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r rc1.d/K20nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services rc1.d/K20nfs:action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au rc1.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc1.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc1.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc1.d/K50xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ rc1.d/K50xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services rc1.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. rc1.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " rc1.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc2.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" rc2.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" rc2.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " rc2.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " rc2.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services rc2.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. rc2.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r rc2.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services rc2.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au rc2.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc2.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc2.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc2.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ rc2.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services rc2.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. rc2.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " rc2.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc3.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" rc3.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" rc3.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " rc3.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " rc3.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services rc3.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. rc3.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r rc3.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services rc3.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au rc3.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc3.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc3.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc3.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ rc3.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services rc3.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. rc3.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " rc3.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc4.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" rc4.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" rc4.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " rc4.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " rc4.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services rc4.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. rc4.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r rc4.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services rc4.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au rc4.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc4.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc4.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc4.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ rc4.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services rc4.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. rc4.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " rc4.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc5.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" rc5.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" rc5.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " rc5.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " rc5.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services rc5.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. rc5.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r rc5.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services rc5.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au rc5.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc5.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc5.d/S91smb:# used to provide SMB network services. rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc5.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ rc5.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services - rc5.d/S91vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. rc5.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " rc5.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc6.d/S00killall:# Bring down all unneeded services that are still running (there shouldn't rc6.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" rc6.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" rc6.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " rc6.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " rc6.d/K91isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services rc6.d/K20nfs:# the NFS services. rc6.d/K20nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r rc6.d/K20nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services rc6.d/K20nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -au rc6.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc6.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc6.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " rc6.d/K50xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ rc6.d/K50xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external services - rc6.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration services. rc6.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " rc6.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " rc.sysinit:# Adjust symlinks as necessary in /boot to keep system services from [root at itact rc.d]# From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 1 18:01:39 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:01:39 -0800 Subject: boot problem In-Reply-To: <000101c51e86$95dfcbd0$c701a8c0@pccat03> References: <000101c51e86$95dfcbd0$c701a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <4224AE03.9080200@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > roland brouwers wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I have the following problem. >>When a Siemens primergy server boots he stops at "start local > > services", > >>just after he starts service rhnsd. >>He stays at this line forever. >>When I boot with the "I" prompt and skip local services he continues. >>What is or are the local services? > > > You didn't say what kind of system this is. Anyway, you could do the > following: > > cd /etc/rc.d > grep -ri services * > > That will search all startup scripts to find the phrase "services". > Find the script that contains that word and look at it to find which > services it starts. One of those is the culprit (odds are it depends > on the network somehow) > > BTW, rhnsd is the Red Hat update daemon. It queries the Red Hat network > to see if there are new updates to be applied (you know...it drives that > checkmark-arrow-exclamation-point icon in the toolbar). > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > BTW, it is RH9 > > Here is a copy of the output. As you can see, all the services > mentionned, are services he already started before asking about local > services, or am I understanding this wrongly. > > > Output of : grep -ri services * > > init.d/killall:# Bring down all unneeded services that are still running > (there shouldn't > > init.d/pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > init.d/pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > init.d/gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > init.d/gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > init.d/nscd:# slow naming services like NIS, NIS+, LDAP, or > esiod. > init.d/isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > init.d/nfs:# the NFS services. > init.d/nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > init.d/nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > init.d/nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " > /usr/sbin/exportfs -au > init.d/ypbind: echo -n $"Shutting down NIS services: " > init.d/winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > init.d/winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > init.d/smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > init.d/smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > init.d/smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > init.d/smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > init.d/smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > > init.d/xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ > > init.d/xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services - > init.d/vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > init.d/ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > init.d/ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > rc:# services when the runlevel changes. > rc0.d/S00killall:# Bring down all unneeded services that are still > running (there shouldn't > rc0.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > rc0.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > rc0.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > rc0.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > rc0.d/K91isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > rc0.d/K20nfs:# the NFS services. > rc0.d/K20nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > rc0.d/K20nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > rc0.d/K20nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs > -au > rc0.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc0.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc0.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc0.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc0.d/K50xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services > \ > > rc0.d/K50xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services > rc0.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > rc0.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > rc0.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > rc1.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > rc1.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > rc1.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > rc1.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > rc1.d/K91isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > rc1.d/K20nfs:# the NFS services. > rc1.d/K20nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > rc1.d/K20nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > rc1.d/K20nfs:action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs > -au > rc1.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc1.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc1.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc1.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc1.d/K50xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services > \ > rc1.d/K50xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services > rc1.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > rc1.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > rc1.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > rc2.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > rc2.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > rc2.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > rc2.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > > rc2.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > rc2.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. > rc2.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > rc2.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > rc2.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs > -au > rc2.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc2.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc2.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc2.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc2.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services > \ > rc2.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services > rc2.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > rc2.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > rc2.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > rc3.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > rc3.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > rc3.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > rc3.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > rc3.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > rc3.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. > rc3.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > rc3.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > rc3.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs > -au > rc3.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc3.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc3.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc3.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc3.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make services \ > rc3.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services > rc3.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > rc3.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > rc3.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > rc4.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > rc4.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > rc4.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > rc4.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > rc4.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > rc4.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. > rc4.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > rc4.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > rc4.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs > -au > rc4.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc4.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc4.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc4.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc4.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make > services \ > rc4.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services > rc4.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > rc4.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > rc4.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > rc5.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > rc5.d/S24pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > rc5.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > rc5.d/S85gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > rc5.d/S09isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > rc5.d/S60nfs:# the NFS services. > rc5.d/S60nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > rc5.d/S60nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > rc5.d/S60nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs > -au > rc5.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > rc5.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > rc5.d/S91smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > > rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > > rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > > rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > > rc5.d/S91smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > > rc5.d/S56xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make > services \ > > rc5.d/S56xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services - > > rc5.d/S91vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > > rc5.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > > rc5.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > > rc6.d/S00killall:# Bring down all unneeded services that are still > running (there shouldn't > > rc6.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Starting PCMCIA services:" > > rc6.d/K96pcmcia: echo -n $"Shutting down PCMCIA services:" > > rc6.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Starting console mouse services: " > > rc6.d/K15gpm: echo -n $"Shutting down console mouse services: " > > rc6.d/K91isdn:# description: start and stop ISDN services > > rc6.d/K20nfs:# the NFS services. > > rc6.d/K20nfs: action $"Starting NFS services: " /usr/sbin/exportfs -r > > rc6.d/K20nfs: # reset input queue for rest of network services > > rc6.d/K20nfs: action $"Shutting down NFS services: " > /usr/sbin/exportfs -au > > rc6.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > > rc6.d/K35winbind: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > > rc6.d/K35smb:# used to provide SMB network services. > > rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > > rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Starting $KIND services: " > > rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > > rc6.d/K35smb: echo -n $"Shutting down $KIND services: " > > rc6.d/K50xinetd:# logging capabilities, the ability to make > services \ > > rc6.d/K50xinetd: # Need to get rid of localization for external > services - > > rc6.d/K35vncserver:# used to provide remote X administration > services. > > rc6.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Starting YP server services: " > > rc6.d/K74ypserv: echo -n $"Stopping YP server services: " > > rc.sysinit:# Adjust symlinks as necessary in /boot to keep system > services from > > [root at itact rc.d]# Nothing odd there. Note that all of the stuff in "rcx.d" are simply symlinks to stuff in /etc/rc.d/init.d, and that's why you see the same stuff over and over. Ok, check the /etc/rc.d/rc.local script and see if it's running something weird. Remember that if it's running a program that grabs the console, it must be run with a "&" at the end so it runs in the background: programname & Ideally you'd probably want to send it's stdout and stderr to the bit bucket so you don't get messages on the console. The first line below would send output to the bit bucket, the second should log output to /var/log/messages: programname >/dev/null 2>&1 & programname | logger 2>&1 & The trailing "&" causes the program to run in a subshell and releases the console. If that's not done, the startup can't complete until the program exits, and I suspect that's what's happening with your stuff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To iterate is human, to recurse, divine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 18:19:43 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:19:43 -0800 Subject: "Switch User" type of desktop setup? Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05030110195dec4d3b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, It's been on my mind lately to try and come up with something that would allow all members of the family to use the same computer more or less at the same time. Windows has a 'Switch User' concept where you can walk up to a locked machine and, if you have an appropriate account, you can switch to your account while leaving the other person's account logged in and running. (Well, sort of but this isn't about the limitations of Win XP...) Maybe this is all built into Gnome alredy and I haven't found it. If it is please point me in the right direction. Anyway, I have managed to show people how to shell to a console, log in, and do a command like 'startx -- :2' but that only works for non-Linux types if no one is using the display they think they are supposed to use. (I.e. - they really don't know about display numbers :0, :1, :2, etc. and they tend to repeat each others display numbers...) What would be really great in my mind would be something like the following: 1) You come up to a locked or unlocked machine and hit Alt-Ctrl-Del, or some other preset set of keystrokes and you get the normal gdm login screen 2) You log in as normal. If it's a new login then gdm/X/something else figures out an open display number to give you and your desktop shows up as normal. 3) If it's an existing login then you are taken to the display that you already have. As an alternative you can search with Alt-F7/8/9 and try your password on each screen until you find yours. 4) As a security bonus when you log on this process would ensure that other user's screens become password protected f they have set password protection on xscreensaver. Thanks in advance for any ideas and pointers on how to make this desktop more multi-user friendly. Cheers, Mark From abrahjm at auburn.edu Wed Mar 2 03:10:16 2005 From: abrahjm at auburn.edu (Joseph Abrahams) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:10:16 -0600 Subject: Unresolved Symbols Message-ID: I encountered the following errors while installing an ATI display driver. Has anybody encountered this before? Thanks, Joseph [root at localhost fglrx]# sh make_install.sh - creating symlink - recreating module dependency list depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o - trying a sample load of the kernel module /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol remap_page_range /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol __wake_up /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol unlock_page /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol create_proc_entry /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol remove_wait_queue /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol highmem_start_page /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol kmap_prot /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol remove_proc_entry /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol add_wait_queue /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol _alloc_pages /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol mem_map /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol init_mm /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol __free_pages /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol lock_page /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved symbol kmap_pte /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license and it has unresolved symbols. Contact the module supplier for assistance, only they can help you. /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: insmod fglrx failed failed. [root at localhost fglrx]# From danny.gibson at cingular.com Wed Mar 2 04:49:42 2005 From: danny.gibson at cingular.com (Gibson, Danny) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 22:49:42 -0600 Subject: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic Message-ID: Hey Rick, That was it. I was using 650MB disks, not 700MB. Installed great. Thanks for the help. Danny -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:20 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic Gibson, Danny wrote: > Yes, when I view the CD in my Windows box the following is displayed. > The files definitively appear to be there. I can browse the CD into > each sub-directory. This box will load Win98, NT4.0, XP and Mandrake > 8.2 with no problem. I would think if there was a hardware problem the > other OS's shouldn't install. Do you think it is possible that the iso > image itself may have an issue? Sure. You said that the MD5 checksum of the ISO image was correct, right? You can run the MD5 checksum on the burned disk as well: md5sum /dev/cdrom Do NOT run the checksum on the mount point (/mnt/cdrom)--do it to the raw device. Things to consider: 1. Don't burn at the highest speed your drive can do (you're already doing that). 2. Make sure you use 700MB media--not 650MB media. The ISOs completely fill a 650MB media and the outer edge of CD-ROM media is not reliable. Use 700MB CDRs. 3. Use only name-brand media (I use TDK or Maxell mostly). 4. Check the checksum of the burned media as shown above. 5. You can try turning off DMA operations on the CD-ROM drive during the installation. Assuming your CD-ROM is the primary device on the secondary controller (or device /dev/hdc): boot: linux hdc=nodma Is there a reason you're using RH9? It reached end of life almost a year ago and only the Fedora Legacy project supports it now. The latest "free" Red Hat Linux is Fedora Core 3. FC3 should work with the 384MB of RAM you have, although the odds are the system will do some swapping. I'd get the thing up to 512MB if possible. > > D:\>dir /s > Volume in drive D is Red Hat Linux_i3 > Volume Serial Number is 5DA7-B491 > > *.* I didn't display them all here... > > Total Files Listed: > 655 File(s) 675,566,545 bytes > 48 Dir(s) 0 bytes free > > Danny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:04 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic > > Gibson, Danny wrote: > > Howdy Ya, > > > > > > > > I just finished a long download of the RedHat 9 iso files from > > ftp.redhat.com and created my installation > > disk. I also used the MD5 checksum after the download and they verified > > OK. The problem I am encountering is that once the install starts I > > encounter the following error and the install craters: > > > > > > > > *error 2 reading header: **cpio**: Bad **magic** * > > > > > > > > The hardware is as follows: > > > > > > > > *Pentium III 550MHz* > > > > *384 MB RAM* > > > > *Intel i440BX chipset* > > > > *Primary IDE controller - 20G IDE Hard Drive - No partitions defined* > > > > *Secondary IDE controller - Toshiba CD-ROM drive* > > > > > > > > I have tried burning new CD/ROM disk at the slowest speed but incur the > > same exact error. > > > > I have Mandrake 8.2 install CD/ROM that will install with no problem on > > this same machine. > > > > I am at a lost as to what the issue might be and what to try next in an > > attempt to get this installed. > > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Are you certain you burned the CDs correctly? By that, I mean, if you > put the CDs into live machine and look at them, do you see a bunch of > files or just one. If you see only one, you burned the CDs wrong. > > ISO images are images of entire CDs and must be burned that way. In > your CD burning software, make sure you select the input as "ISO image". > Some instructions are at: > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - What is a "free" gift? 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URL: From bhamal at wlink.com.np Wed Mar 2 04:08:33 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:53:33 +0545 Subject: investingating kernel :Cnx error Message-ID: <000701c51edd$b88aff90$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Hi ! I am using Red Hat 8 with kernel 2.4.20-30.8.legacy I am facing the following error some times . It hangs my computer when I am doing a make or am using x-windows . How do I go about investigating the cause of it ? Thank you for your help. Cheers, bj Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=9 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=2 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:22 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=9 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 10:26:44 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE ! Feb 28 10:26:47 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE ! Mar 1 09:30:46 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE ! Mar 1 09:30:46 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE ! Mar 1 10:06:56 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=1 used bit was FALSE ! Mar 1 10:07:00 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE ! From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 2 18:05:24 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:05:24 -0800 Subject: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42260064.9000007@vitalstream.com> Gibson, Danny wrote: > Hey Rick, > > That was it. I was using 650MB disks, not 700MB. Installed great. > Thanks for the help. No problem, Danny. I've posted this info to the list before, but for any newbies to the list, here's how CDs are written: CDs are written in a spiral pattern just like an old vinyl record. It is written in the opposite direction, however. Unlike a record, the pattern starts at the center and works out towards the edge. As you get towards the edge, the media gets a bit wonky (the coating isn't as uniform, you have more flutter as the edge has a faster linear motion than the center, etc.). Each disk must start with a 20MB "lead in" bit (like the blank space at the beginning of a record) and a 20MB "lead out" bit (like the blank space at the center of the record). There is a 20MB intersession gap between sessions, as well (the blank space between cuts on a record). All Red Hat/Fedora images since, oh, 7.1, are pretty full 650MB images. Since the image is 650MB (and there's a 20MB lead in and 20MB lead out), you really fill ALL of the media. 650MB media takes into account the lead in/out bit (it's really capable of 700MB), but as I said, the very edge of ANY CD is full of land mines. A 650MB disc MAY work, but I wouldn't rely on it. 700MB media is actually capable of 750MB. Just buy 700MB/80 minute CD-Rs and you'll be fine. In fact, I threw away all of my old, unburned 650MB media (well, actually we converted them into Christmas tree ornaments one year > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:20 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic > > Gibson, Danny wrote: > > Yes, when I view the CD in my Windows box the following is displayed. > > The files definitively appear to be there. I can browse the CD into > > each sub-directory. This box will load Win98, NT4.0, XP and Mandrake > > 8.2 with no problem. I would think if there was a hardware problem the > > other OS's shouldn't install. Do you think it is possible that the iso > > image itself may have an issue? > > Sure. You said that the MD5 checksum of the ISO image was correct, > right? You can run the MD5 checksum on the burned disk as well: > > md5sum /dev/cdrom > > Do NOT run the checksum on the mount point (/mnt/cdrom)--do it to the > raw device. > > Things to consider: > > 1. Don't burn at the highest speed your drive can do (you're already > doing that). > > 2. Make sure you use 700MB media--not 650MB media. The ISOs completely > fill a 650MB media and the outer edge of CD-ROM media is not reliable. > Use 700MB CDRs. > > 3. Use only name-brand media (I use TDK or Maxell mostly). > > 4. Check the checksum of the burned media as shown above. > > 5. You can try turning off DMA operations on the CD-ROM drive during the > installation. Assuming your CD-ROM is the primary device on the > secondary controller (or device /dev/hdc): > > boot: linux hdc=nodma > > Is there a reason you're using RH9? It reached end of life almost a > year ago and only the Fedora Legacy project supports it now. The latest > "free" Red Hat Linux is Fedora Core 3. FC3 should work with the 384MB > of RAM you have, although the odds are the system will do some > swapping. I'd get the thing up to 512MB if possible. > > > > > D:\>dir /s > > Volume in drive D is Red Hat Linux_i3 > > Volume Serial Number is 5DA7-B491 > > > > *.* I didn't display them all here... > > > > Total Files Listed: > > 655 File(s) 675,566,545 bytes > > 48 Dir(s) 0 bytes free > > > > Danny > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick > Stevens > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:04 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: error 2 reading header: cpio: Bad magic > > > > Gibson, Danny wrote: > > > Howdy Ya, > > > > > > > > > > > > I just finished a long download of the RedHat 9 iso files from > > > ftp.redhat.com and created my installation > > > disk. I also used the MD5 checksum after the download and they > verified > > > OK. The problem I am encountering is that once the install starts I > > > encounter the following error and the install craters: > > > > > > > > > > > > *error 2 reading header: **cpio**: Bad **magic** * > > > > > > > > > > > > The hardware is as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > *Pentium III 550MHz* > > > > > > *384 MB RAM* > > > > > > *Intel i440BX chipset* > > > > > > *Primary IDE controller - 20G IDE Hard Drive - No partitions defined* > > > > > > *Secondary IDE controller - Toshiba CD-ROM drive* > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried burning new CD/ROM disk at the slowest speed but > incur the > > > same exact error. > > > > > > I have Mandrake 8.2 install CD/ROM that will install with no > problem on > > > this same machine. > > > > > > I am at a lost as to what the issue might be and what to try next > in an > > > attempt to get this installed. > > > > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Are you certain you burned the CDs correctly? By that, I mean, if you > > put the CDs into live machine and look at them, do you see a bunch of > > files or just one. If you see only one, you burned the CDs wrong. > > > > ISO images are images of entire CDs and must be burned that way. In > > your CD burning software, make sure you select the input as "ISO image". > > Some instructions are at: > > > > http://www.rhil.net/docs/faq.html#making_cds > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > > - - > > - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-install-list mailing list > > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > Subject: unsubscribe > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - UNIX is actually quite user friendly. The problem is that it's - - just very picky of who its friends are! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 2 18:53:33 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:53:33 -0800 Subject: Unresolved Symbols In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42260BAD.7010804@vitalstream.com> Joseph Abrahams wrote: > I encountered the following errors while installing an ATI display > driver. Has anybody encountered this before? > > Thanks, > Joseph > > [root at localhost fglrx]# sh make_install.sh > - creating symlink > - recreating module dependency list > depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o > - trying a sample load of the kernel module > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol remap_page_range > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol __wake_up > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol unlock_page > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol register_chrdev > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol create_proc_entry > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol remove_wait_queue > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol highmem_start_page > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol kmap_prot > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol remove_proc_entry > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol add_wait_queue > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol _alloc_pages > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol mem_map > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol init_mm > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol __free_pages > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol lock_page > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: unresolved > symbol kmap_pte > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: > Hint: You are trying to load a module without a GPL compatible license > and it has unresolved symbols. Contact the module supplier for > assistance, only they can help you. > > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o failed > /lib/modules/2.4.20-31.9/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: insmod fglrx > failed > failed. > [root at localhost fglrx]# My guess is that the module you're installing is not for the kernel you're running. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 2 18:54:57 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:54:57 -0800 Subject: investingating kernel :Cnx error In-Reply-To: <000701c51edd$b88aff90$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> References: <000701c51edd$b88aff90$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> Message-ID: <42260C01.4090808@vitalstream.com> bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I am using Red Hat 8 with kernel 2.4.20-30.8.legacy > > I am facing the following error some times . > > It hangs my computer when I am doing a make or am using x-windows . > > How do I go about investigating the cause of it ? > > Thank you for your help. > > Cheers, > bj > > > > > Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=9 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=2 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:22 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=9 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 10:26:44 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 10:26:47 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 09:30:46 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 09:30:46 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 10:06:56 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=1 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 10:07:00 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE > ! That looks like a screen saver glitch, but it could be your desktop manager. Which desktop (Gnome, KDE) are you using? What display card? What processor? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From bhamal at wlink.com.np Thu Mar 3 14:32:54 2005 From: bhamal at wlink.com.np (bj) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:17:54 +0545 Subject: investingating kernel :Cnx error In-Reply-To: <42260C01.4090808@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <002e01c51ffd$e3f924b0$0db3fea9@kath.state.gov> -----Original Message----- From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:40 AM To: bhamal at wlink.com.np; Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: investingating kernel :Cnx error bj wrote: > Hi ! > > I am using Red Hat 8 with kernel 2.4.20-30.8.legacy > > I am facing the following error some times . > > It hangs my computer when I am doing a make or am using x-windows . > > How do I go about investigating the cause of it ? > > Thank you for your help. > > Cheers, > bj > > > > > Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:14:20 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=9 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=2 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 25 10:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=5 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:22 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=9 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=3 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:23 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 09:44:26 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=4 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 10:26:44 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE > ! > Feb 28 10:26:47 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=6 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 09:30:46 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 09:30:46 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=0 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 10:06:56 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=1 used bit was FALSE > ! > Mar 1 10:07:00 HOME kernel: cnxthsf_OsFloatSuffix: Id=8 used bit was FALSE > ! That looks like a screen saver glitch, but it could be your desktop manager. Which desktop (Gnome, KDE) are you using? What display card? What processor? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi ! Thanks for the prompt reply . I use Free X11 & KDE . I run Free X11 by giving the command ' startx ' , then run kde by 'startkde ' once the x-windows has started . Yes , you are correct regarding the screen saver thing because my computer does freeze up some times when my computer goes to power saver mode . My display card is a GE FORCE 2 . My processor is a intel 2.4 . Where do I find the screen saver file & how do I turn off the power saving mode . cheers, bj From randy1200 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 21:58:31 2005 From: randy1200 at yahoo.com (Bone Randy) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:58:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Getting the right executable Message-ID: <20050304215831.3575.qmail@web54303.mail.yahoo.com> My Red Hat Linux comes with version 8.3 of the wish interpreter in /usr/bin. I downloaded version 8.4, which I really need. Version 8.4 ended up in /usr/local/ActiveTcl/bin. My question: How do I set it up so the user gets version 8.4 when he types wish at the command line. Thanks, Randy __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Fri Mar 4 23:28:55 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:28:55 -0600 Subject: Getting the right executable In-Reply-To: <20050304215831.3575.qmail@web54303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050304215831.3575.qmail@web54303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050304232855.GB32636@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:58:31PM -0800, Bone Randy wrote: > My Red Hat Linux comes with version 8.3 of the wish > interpreter in /usr/bin. > > I downloaded version 8.4, which I really need. Version > 8.4 ended up in /usr/local/ActiveTcl/bin. > > My question: How do I set it up so the user gets > version 8.4 when he types wish at the command line. > > Thanks, > Randy There are several ways. Probably the simplest is to put the path to the desired one before /usr/bin in the PATH. In your /etc/profile, there are several adjustments to the path. Then it sources all the applicable shell scripts in /etc/profile.d/. For all bash users, add this file, let's call it new_wish.sh, to /etc/profile.d/: ------ snip 8< here ------ # Add /usr/local/ActiveTcl/bin to the PATH so that wish users # get that one before the stock one in /usr/bin. pathmunge /usr/local/ActiveTcl/bin ------ snip 8< here ------ Be sure to "chmod +x new_wish.sh". Dealing with (t)csh users is left as an exercise for those who grok (t)csh. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sat Mar 5 22:05:06 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:05:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: Linux to Linux Message-ID: What am I doing wrong? I seem to have no problem networking from Windows to Windows or Windows to Linux or Linux to Windows but for some reason I can get my Linux to Linux network talking to each other. I need some instructions - simple if possible. It seems that people have gone to great lengths to simply describe or simplify the Windows connection (using SAMBA) but when I start looking at Linux to Linux connections it's all in tech talk which is over my head. I will do it command line (as long as its permanent) or using WebMin or something else if needed. I need to know how to configure things or what ever I need to do. I want to share drives and printers. I'm running RH9.0 on one machine and RH FC2 on the other (this one is also a notebook with a wireless network adapter). Like I said I can share drives and printers with my windows machines but these two don't want to play nice and share. Thanks, -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Sat Mar 5 22:46:07 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:46:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: Screen Saver Message-ID: I'm looking for a screen saver that will display different pictures stored in a directory. Any such Linux creature out there? -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com Sun Mar 6 15:02:33 2005 From: David.Mackintosh at xdroop.com (David Mackintosh) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:02:33 -0500 Subject: Screen Saver Message-ID: <20050306150233.GA29971@xdroop.com> On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 03:46:07PM -0700, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm looking for a screen saver that will display different > pictures stored in a directory. Hi Brad I believe KDE has a picture-shower screensaver (the native KDE does, I'm not sure about the RedHat supplied version because I don't run KDE). However, for Gnome, you can use any program which displays pictures on the root window. I use xv. (There are probably better programs, but I'm an old-time unix dude and I like xv.) I add a couple of lines to my ~/.xscreensaver file, in the Programs section, like so: "XV (cats)" xv -random -wait 10 -root -rmode 5 \ /home/dave/img/cats-good/* \n\ If you are running in a mode with multiple screensavers selected, you can have variations on these lines: "XV (comix)" xv -random -wait 10 -root -rmode 5 \ /home/dave/img/funny/* /home/dave/img/funny/*/* \n\ ...and they will come up in the appropriate random order. -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | DMackintosh at uxilium.com gpg --recv-keys --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 0x35A6A47A Mystery attachment? http://xdroop.dhs.org/space/GPG -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just look in the screen savers config tool and you'll probably find it. -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From john.j.poole at usa-spaceops.com Mon Mar 7 15:55:11 2005 From: john.j.poole at usa-spaceops.com (Poole, John J) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 10:55:11 -0500 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 6 Message-ID: <2CE66A1ABBED8C4B85DFF5E0860987A32CB97B@usaflcms03.usa-spaceops.ksc.nasa.gov> Brad, I think xscreensaver GLSlideshow would do the trick. Thanks, John -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:00 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 6 Send Redhat-install-list mailing list submissions to redhat-install-list at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at redhat-install-list-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Redhat-install-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Linux to Linux (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) 2. Screen Saver (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) 3. Re: Screen Saver (David Mackintosh) 4. Re: Screen Saver (Jeff Kinz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:05:06 -0700 (MST) From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net Subject: Linux to Linux To: Red Hat Install Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What am I doing wrong? I seem to have no problem networking from Windows to Windows or Windows to Linux or Linux to Windows but for some reason I can get my Linux to Linux network talking to each other. I need some instructions - simple if possible. It seems that people have gone to great lengths to simply describe or simplify the Windows connection (using SAMBA) but when I start looking at Linux to Linux connections it's all in tech talk which is over my head. I will do it command line (as long as its permanent) or using WebMin or something else if needed. I need to know how to configure things or what ever I need to do. I want to share drives and printers. I'm running RH9.0 on one machine and RH FC2 on the other (this one is also a notebook with a wireless network adapter). Like I said I can share drives and printers with my windows machines but these two don't want to play nice and share. Thanks, -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:46:07 -0700 (MST) From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net Subject: Screen Saver To: Red Hat Install Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for a screen saver that will display different pictures stored in a directory. Any such Linux creature out there? -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:02:33 -0500 From: David Mackintosh Subject: Re: Screen Saver To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <20050306150233.GA29971 at xdroop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 03:46:07PM -0700, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm looking for a screen saver that will display different > pictures stored in a directory. Hi Brad I believe KDE has a picture-shower screensaver (the native KDE does, I'm not sure about the RedHat supplied version because I don't run KDE). However, for Gnome, you can use any program which displays pictures on the root window. I use xv. (There are probably better programs, but I'm an old-time unix dude and I like xv.) I add a couple of lines to my ~/.xscreensaver file, in the Programs section, like so: "XV (cats)" xv -random -wait 10 -root -rmode 5 \ /home/dave/img/cats-good/* \n\ If you are running in a mode with multiple screensavers selected, you can have variations on these lines: "XV (comix)" xv -random -wait 10 -root -rmode 5 \ /home/dave/img/funny/* /home/dave/img/funny/*/* \n\ ...and they will come up in the appropriate random order. -- /\oo/\ / /()\ \ David Mackintosh | DMackintosh at uxilium.com gpg --recv-keys --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net 0x35A6A47A Mystery attachment? http://xdroop.dhs.org/space/GPG -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/attachments/20050306/1333e563/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:56:18 -0500 From: Jeff Kinz Subject: Re: Screen Saver To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Message-ID: <20050306105618.A28903 at redline.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 03:46:07PM -0700, brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm looking for a screen saver that will display different > pictures stored in a directory. > > Any such Linux creature out there? yes - FC2 ships with exactly that sort of screen saver. I only know it exists since FC2, by default, is configured to randomly select one of its installed screen savers and run it whenever the default timeout period is reached and this is one of the ones that comes up. I think FC1 and FC3 have it as well. Dunno about RH9, ES AS etc.. Just look in the screen savers config tool and you'll probably find it. -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list End of Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 6 ************************************************** From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 7 17:37:06 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:37:06 -0800 Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422C9142.9000004@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > What am I doing wrong? I seem to have no problem networking from > Windows to Windows or Windows to Linux or Linux to Windows but > for some reason I can get my Linux to Linux network talking to > each other. > > I need some instructions - simple if possible. It seems that > people have gone to great lengths to simply describe or simplify > the Windows connection (using SAMBA) but when I start looking at > Linux to Linux connections it's all in tech talk which is over my > head. > > I will do it command line (as long as its permanent) or using > WebMin or something else if needed. I need to know how to > configure things or what ever I need to do. > > I want to share drives and printers. > > I'm running RH9.0 on one machine and RH FC2 on the other (this > one is also a notebook with a wireless network adapter). Like I > said I can share drives and printers with my windows machines but > these two don't want to play nice and share. As far as sharing files, Linux "speaks" two languages, Samba and NFS (network file system). You already seem to know about Samba, since you're sharing files between Linux and Windows (which is the hardest bit). A samba server shares its files by specifying those files in a "[label]" stanza in /etc/samba/smb.conf and runs the nmbd and smbd daemons. I assume you know how to set that up. Conversely, a samba client simply mounts shares by use of the "mount -t smbfs" command (or by specifying "smbfs" in the /etc/fstab). Similar stuff is done in NFS. An NFS server puts the directories it wishes to share in the /etc/exports file (see "man exports"). The server then runs several daemons: portmapper, rpc.lockd, rpc.statd and rpc.nfsd to share those directories out. Conversely, an NFS client runs portmapper and mounts the directories via "mount -t nfs" (or specifying "nfs" in the /etc/fstab entry). If you could be a bit more specific in what you want to do, I can help more. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Hello. My PID is Inigo Montoya. You `kill -9'-ed my parent - - process. Prepare to vi." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 7 17:42:19 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:42:19 -0800 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <2CE66A1ABBED8C4B85DFF5E0860987A32CB97B@usaflcms03.usa-spaceops.ksc.nasa.gov> References: <2CE66A1ABBED8C4B85DFF5E0860987A32CB97B@usaflcms03.usa-spaceops.ksc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <422C927B.8060901@vitalstream.com> Poole, John J wrote: > Brad, > I think xscreensaver GLSlideshow would do the trick. PLEASE don't reply to digest messages! You end up quoting the entire digest. Fortunately in this case, there were only two messages but if you ever did this on, say the "fedora-list", you'd be quoting HUNDREDS of messages and your posting could easily be a megabyte or more. If you see a topic in a digest you'd like to comment on, please send a NEW message with the subject set to "Re: Subject text" (in this case, "Re: Re: Screen Saver") And please bottom-post in the future (put your reply AFTER what you're responding to). > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:00 PM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 6 > > > Send Redhat-install-list mailing list submissions to > redhat-install-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > redhat-install-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Redhat-install-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Linux to Linux (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) > 2. Screen Saver (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) > 3. Re: Screen Saver (David Mackintosh) > 4. Re: Screen Saver (Jeff Kinz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 15:05:06 -0700 (MST) > From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net > Subject: Linux to Linux > To: Red Hat Install > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > What am I doing wrong? I seem to have no problem networking from > Windows to Windows or Windows to Linux or Linux to Windows but > for some reason I can get my Linux to Linux network talking to > each other. > > I need some instructions - simple if possible. It seems that > people have gone to great lengths to simply describe or simplify > the Windows connection (using SAMBA) but when I start looking at > Linux to Linux connections it's all in tech talk which is over my > head. > > I will do it command line (as long as its permanent) or using > WebMin or something else if needed. I need to know how to > configure things or what ever I need to do. > > I want to share drives and printers. > > I'm running RH9.0 on one machine and RH FC2 on the other (this > one is also a notebook with a wireless network adapter). Like I > said I can share drives and printers with my windows machines but > these two don't want to play nice and share. > > Thanks, > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The light at the end of the tunnel is really an oncoming train. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Mar 7 18:04:50 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 10:04:50 -0800 Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: <422C9142.9000004@vitalstream.com> References: <422C9142.9000004@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0503071004196175b1@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:37:06 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > What am I doing wrong? I seem to have no problem networking from > > Windows to Windows or Windows to Linux or Linux to Windows but > > for some reason I can get my Linux to Linux network talking to > > each other. > > > > I need some instructions - simple if possible. It seems that > > people have gone to great lengths to simply describe or simplify > > the Windows connection (using SAMBA) but when I start looking at > > Linux to Linux connections it's all in tech talk which is over my > > head. > > > > I will do it command line (as long as its permanent) or using > > WebMin or something else if needed. I need to know how to > > configure things or what ever I need to do. > > > > I want to share drives and printers. > > > > I'm running RH9.0 on one machine and RH FC2 on the other (this > > one is also a notebook with a wireless network adapter). Like I > > said I can share drives and printers with my windows machines but > > these two don't want to play nice and share. > > As far as sharing files, Linux "speaks" two languages, Samba and NFS > (network file system). You already seem to know about Samba, since > you're sharing files between Linux and Windows (which is the hardest > bit). > > A samba server shares its files by specifying those files in a "[label]" > stanza in /etc/samba/smb.conf and runs the nmbd and smbd daemons. I > assume you know how to set that up. Conversely, a samba client simply > mounts shares by use of the "mount -t smbfs" command (or by specifying > "smbfs" in the /etc/fstab). > > Similar stuff is done in NFS. An NFS server puts the directories it > wishes to share in the /etc/exports file (see "man exports"). The > server then runs several daemons: portmapper, rpc.lockd, rpc.statd and > rpc.nfsd to share those directories out. Conversely, an NFS client runs > portmapper and mounts the directories via "mount -t nfs" (or specifying > "nfs" in the /etc/fstab entry). > > If you could be a bit more specific in what you want to do, I can help > more. One thing I found was that for my network I had to turn the iptables firewall off on then Linux machine that was sharing an NFS mount or the other machines on the network couldn't mount it. I thiink this was due to the way NFS sets up ports? I didn't know where to make changes in the way NFS gets started to make it run on a fixed port so this worked but I wasn't overly happy with the solution. Is this easy to do? Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 7 18:48:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:48:31 -0800 Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0503071004196175b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <422C9142.9000004@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b0503071004196175b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <422CA1FF.8040504@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:37:06 -0800, Rick Stevens > wrote: > >>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>>What am I doing wrong? I seem to have no problem networking from >>>Windows to Windows or Windows to Linux or Linux to Windows but >>>for some reason I can get my Linux to Linux network talking to >>>each other. >>> >>>I need some instructions - simple if possible. It seems that >>>people have gone to great lengths to simply describe or simplify >>>the Windows connection (using SAMBA) but when I start looking at >>>Linux to Linux connections it's all in tech talk which is over my >>>head. >>> >>>I will do it command line (as long as its permanent) or using >>>WebMin or something else if needed. I need to know how to >>>configure things or what ever I need to do. >>> >>>I want to share drives and printers. >>> >>>I'm running RH9.0 on one machine and RH FC2 on the other (this >>>one is also a notebook with a wireless network adapter). Like I >>>said I can share drives and printers with my windows machines but >>>these two don't want to play nice and share. >> >>As far as sharing files, Linux "speaks" two languages, Samba and NFS >>(network file system). You already seem to know about Samba, since >>you're sharing files between Linux and Windows (which is the hardest >>bit). >> >>A samba server shares its files by specifying those files in a "[label]" >>stanza in /etc/samba/smb.conf and runs the nmbd and smbd daemons. I >>assume you know how to set that up. Conversely, a samba client simply >>mounts shares by use of the "mount -t smbfs" command (or by specifying >>"smbfs" in the /etc/fstab). >> >>Similar stuff is done in NFS. An NFS server puts the directories it >>wishes to share in the /etc/exports file (see "man exports"). The >>server then runs several daemons: portmapper, rpc.lockd, rpc.statd and >>rpc.nfsd to share those directories out. Conversely, an NFS client runs >>portmapper and mounts the directories via "mount -t nfs" (or specifying >>"nfs" in the /etc/fstab entry). >> >>If you could be a bit more specific in what you want to do, I can help >>more. > > > One thing I found was that for my network I had to turn the iptables > firewall off on then Linux machine that was sharing an NFS mount or > the other machines on the network couldn't mount it. I thiink this was > due to the way NFS sets up ports? I didn't know where to make changes > in the way NFS gets started to make it run on a fixed port so this > worked but I wasn't overly happy with the solution. NFS uses portmapper to map ports and these can vary widely. Predicting which is going to be used is difficult as portmapper can dynamically change things. You can bypass portmapper to some extent by launching the majority of NFS-related services with specified ports. The only two ports you can be sure of is that portmapper listens on port 111, rpc.nfsd normally uses port 2049 (note: both TCP and UDP--NFS is primarily a UDP service). rpc.mountd, rpc.statd, and rpc.lockd normally use ports assigned by portmapper, but you can specify which ports to use by means of the "-p portnumber" option on most of those commands. Then simply ensure that you leave those ports open on your firewall. That's still a security issue. You really only want to allow the NFS stuff between SPECIFIC machines anyway. I'd prefer you do something like permitting any traffic between your known NFS clients and servers, and block all else. This is a highly restrictive firewall, but here are some suggested rules: iptables -P INPUT DROP iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s NFS-buddy/netmask -d 0/0 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -p udp -s NFS-buddy/netmask -d 0/0 -j ACCEPT and so on. Also note that portmapper is tcp-wrappers-aware, so you could use tcpwrappers to restrict access to the portmapper from the outside world. The portmapper issue is similar to the FTP issue as far as port assignments are concerned, but you really can't use the "ESTABLISHED" or "RELATED" part of the conntrack module of iptables since most NFS traffic is UDP. You can use TCP (and if you have high traffic levels, I'd suggest using it) by specifying "tcp" in the mount command options. How do we do it? All of our NFS traffic is done over a backside network that is not routable (10/8 or 192.168/16). All nodes that need access to the NFS data must have a NIC on that network. We allow NFS traffic ONLY over that network. Nodes that have NICs on that network AND one on the public internet are firewalled out the wazoo on the public side and are kept as current as possible WRT security updates. The NFS data is exported only to specific clients as well. BTW, the only hack we ever saw is because our NFS servers also export the data via CIFS (Windows networking) and one of our IIS servers was hacked (gee, someone broke into a Windows box that had all of the latest security patches...what a surprise!) We've never had a NFS compromise with Linux boxes. If you're concerned, this is the solution I think best. Two networks, one backside for private stuff like NFS, backups, and management; and one for the "public" face which is heavily firewalled. NFS was designed for LANs primarily and back when the internet was a kinder and gentler place. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... - - ...once. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Mar 8 01:07:56 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:07:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: <422C9142.9000004@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > As far as sharing files, Linux "speaks" two languages, Samba and NFS > (network file system). You already seem to know about Samba, since > you're sharing files between Linux and Windows (which is the hardest > bit). > > A samba server shares its files by specifying those files in a "[label]" > stanza in /etc/samba/smb.conf and runs the nmbd and smbd daemons. I > assume you know how to set that up. Conversely, a samba client simply > mounts shares by use of the "mount -t smbfs" command (or by specifying > "smbfs" in the /etc/fstab). > > Similar stuff is done in NFS. An NFS server puts the directories it > wishes to share in the /etc/exports file (see "man exports"). The > server then runs several daemons: portmapper, rpc.lockd, rpc.statd and > rpc.nfsd to share those directories out. Conversely, an NFS client runs > portmapper and mounts the directories via "mount -t nfs" (or specifying > "nfs" in the /etc/fstab entry). > > If you could be a bit more specific in what you want to do, I can help > more. Thanks, this is a start. I'll look at the "man exports" printout and see what I can figure out. Basically, all I want to do is have access to some directories on thismachine/home/brad when I'm in other parts of the house and to be able to use the printer attached to the other Linux box. As far as security it will all be on the same internal network (192.168) and I'm not running a firewall as my LinkSys router/switch has that built in (I hope that's secure - haven't had any problems that I know about). Thanks Brad From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 8 01:46:23 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:46:23 -0800 Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422D03EF.90003@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>As far as sharing files, Linux "speaks" two languages, Samba and NFS >>(network file system). You already seem to know about Samba, since >>you're sharing files between Linux and Windows (which is the hardest >>bit). >> >>A samba server shares its files by specifying those files in a "[label]" >>stanza in /etc/samba/smb.conf and runs the nmbd and smbd daemons. I >>assume you know how to set that up. Conversely, a samba client simply >>mounts shares by use of the "mount -t smbfs" command (or by specifying >>"smbfs" in the /etc/fstab). >> >>Similar stuff is done in NFS. An NFS server puts the directories it >>wishes to share in the /etc/exports file (see "man exports"). The >>server then runs several daemons: portmapper, rpc.lockd, rpc.statd and >>rpc.nfsd to share those directories out. Conversely, an NFS client runs >>portmapper and mounts the directories via "mount -t nfs" (or specifying >>"nfs" in the /etc/fstab entry). >> >>If you could be a bit more specific in what you want to do, I can help >>more. > > > Thanks, this is a start. I'll look at the "man exports" printout > and see what I can figure out. > > Basically, all I want to do is have access to some directories on > thismachine/home/brad when I'm in other parts of the house and > to be able to use the printer attached to the other Linux box. > > As far as security it will all be on the same internal network > (192.168) and I'm not running a firewall as my LinkSys > router/switch has that built in (I hope that's secure - haven't > had any problems that I know about). Peachy. Essentially, your /etc/exports file on the server would look like: /home/brad 192.168/16(rw,no_root_squash) To manually start the NFS server code: /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock start /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start On the client, you'd add lines to your /etc/fstab that look like: nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint nfs rw 0 0 If you have that in /etc/fstab, the following two commands will start the NFS client code and automatically mount any NFS volumes it finds in /etc/fstab: /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start If you don't have any entries in /etc/fstab, mount the stuff via: mount -t nfs nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint If you wish to make these permanent (start NFS server processes and mount them on the NFS client), then you can do the following: On the server: chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on chkconfig --levels 2345 nfslock on chkconfig --levels 2345 nfs on On the client: chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on chkconfig --levels 2345 netfs on Note that this is only for NFS file sharing. See "man exports" for details on the /etc/exports file and "man 5 nfs" for the available NFS options for /etc/fstab and the "mount -t nfs" command. If you wanted to do it via Samba, I think you already know how since you apparently share that stuff with Windows already. Just think of the Samba shares as Windows shares. As to the printer, run the printer manager GUI stuff on the machine where the printer is attached ("system-config-printer" under FC2/3). Double click on the printer you want to share, then click on the "Sharing..." button at the bottom of the "Edit a print queue" box. Put a check in the "This queue is available to other computers" and "All Hosts" should show up in the list of allowed systems. Click on "OK", then click on the "Apply" icon in the "Printer Configuration" box to restart the queues. Wait a few minutes for the shared queue to get broadcast, then go to the client machine and bring up its printer manager. The queue from the server machine should show up in the "Browsed queues" list. Just double click it, select it as the default, set up the queue name and driver and you should be good to go. Note that the printer(s) exported from the server will be running the "IPP" protocol (internet printing protocol, TCP/UDP port 631), should you need to access them from a machine that doesn't have a GUI or that can't browse queues on the net. If you need to access it via a URL, "ipp://printserver/queuename". RFC 3510 describes the IPP URL. Hope your brain doesn't bleed after all that! :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Tue Mar 8 02:12:37 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:12:37 -0800 Subject: A Challenge to Rick: a really weird .forward file. Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A3E5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Here's the deal... I have a .forward file as follows: "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #username" The catch is, this causes sendmail 8.12 to not work (bounces email back as undeliverable), but is required by postfix on other systems to let procmail do it's job. Meaning, I have to have that line (or some form of it) but on the other hand, I can't either. Bad catch 22. My biggest problem, I have NO idea what that line is doing and neither does anyone I work with. Also, can I add an algorithm so that when it's called, can it do nothing if it's a sendmail based system, and execute that line if it's postfix? Thanks in advance Travis From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 8 02:41:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 18:41:47 -0800 Subject: A Challenge to Rick: a really weird .forward file. In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A3E5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A3E5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <422D10EB.9010706@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Here's the deal... I have a .forward file as follows: > > "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 > #username" > > The catch is, this causes sendmail 8.12 to not work (bounces email back > as undeliverable), but is required by postfix on other systems to let > procmail do it's job. > > Meaning, I have to have that line (or some form of it) but on the other > hand, I can't either. Bad catch 22. > > My biggest problem, I have NO idea what that line is doing and neither > does anyone I work with. > > Also, can I add an algorithm so that when it's called, can it do nothing > if it's a sendmail based system, and execute that line if it's postfix? > > Thanks in advance What do I get if I figure it out? Do I get a pony? Do I? Do I? :-) Just break it down, Travis. The "&&" is a standard shell convention for "if this is true, do A, AND if A is true, do B, AND if B is true...". In other words, the next part of the pipe (reading left to right) is executed ONLY if the previous part returned a "true" (return value of 0). Conversely, "||" means "OR": "if A fails, do B" So, the first bit sets the input field separator (IFS) to a space (see "Shell Variables" in "man bash"). If that was successful (and it will be), it sets "p" to the value "/usr/bin/procmail". This is simply so the script doesn't have "/usr/bin/procmail" all over the place. If that was successful (again, it should be), then it checks to see if "/usr/bin/procmail" is a regular file. I think that's bad. It should be "test -x $p", or "if /usr/bin/procmail is executable". If it is a regular file (or executable with my change), then execute it and pass it the arguments "-Yf-" (methinks that should be "-Yf -"). "-Y" to procmail says "assume traditional mailbox format", the "-f -" (note the space between "f" and the second dash) means "update the timestamp of the "From " line, if any. The || means "if any of the preceeding stuff fails, exit with a value of 75" (which is "EX_TEMPFAIL" from /usr/include/sysexits.h). Sendmail expects any delivery agent (e.g. procmail) to return a value from /usr/include/sysexits.h. The "#username" bit I'm a bit confused on, but I think it's supposed to be "$username" (the username the message is meant for). In pseudo-code: If setting the input field separator to a space is OK, AND If setting "p" to /usr/bin/procmail is OK, AND If "/usr/bin/procmail" is a file (executable), THEN execute "/usr/bin/procmail -Yf - $username" return whatever procmail generates for a result code Else exit with EX_TEMPFAIL (75) Fi Else exit with EX_TEMPFAIL (75) Fi Else exit with EX_TEMPFAIL (75) Fi Does that make sense to you? Do I get the pony? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The problem with being poor is that it takes up all of your time - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tpotter at techmarin.com Tue Mar 8 05:04:58 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:04:58 -0800 Subject: A Challenge to Rick: a really weird .forward file. In-Reply-To: <422D10EB.9010706@vitalstream.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A3E5@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <422D10EB.9010706@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1110258297.19095.16.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 18:41, Rick Stevens wrote: > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > Here's the deal... I have a .forward file as follows: > > > > "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 > > #username" > > > > The catch is, this causes sendmail 8.12 to not work (bounces email back > > as undeliverable), but is required by postfix on other systems to let > > procmail do it's job. > > > > Meaning, I have to have that line (or some form of it) but on the other > > hand, I can't either. Bad catch 22. > > > > My biggest problem, I have NO idea what that line is doing and neither > > does anyone I work with. > > > > Also, can I add an algorithm so that when it's called, can it do nothing > > if it's a sendmail based system, and execute that line if it's postfix? > > > > Thanks in advance > > What do I get if I figure it out? Do I get a pony? Do I? Do I? :-) > > Just break it down, Travis. The "&&" is a standard shell convention for > "if this is true, do A, AND if A is true, do B, AND if B is true...". > In other words, the next part of the pipe (reading left to right) is > executed ONLY if the previous part returned a "true" (return value of > 0). Conversely, "||" means "OR": "if A fails, do B" > > So, the first bit sets the input field separator (IFS) to a space (see > "Shell Variables" in "man bash"). > > If that was successful (and it will be), it sets "p" to the value > "/usr/bin/procmail". This is simply so the script doesn't have > "/usr/bin/procmail" all over the place. > > If that was successful (again, it should be), then it checks to see if > "/usr/bin/procmail" is a regular file. I think that's bad. It should > be "test -x $p", or "if /usr/bin/procmail is executable". > > If it is a regular file (or executable with my change), then execute it > and pass it the arguments "-Yf-" (methinks that should be "-Yf -"). > "-Y" to procmail says "assume traditional mailbox format", the "-f -" > (note the space between "f" and the second dash) means "update the > timestamp of the "From " line, if any. > > The || means "if any of the preceeding stuff fails, exit with a value of > 75" (which is "EX_TEMPFAIL" from /usr/include/sysexits.h). Sendmail > expects any delivery agent (e.g. procmail) to return a value from > /usr/include/sysexits.h. > > The "#username" bit I'm a bit confused on, but I think it's supposed to > be "$username" (the username the message is meant for). > > In pseudo-code: > > If setting the input field separator to a space is OK, AND > If setting "p" to /usr/bin/procmail is OK, AND > If "/usr/bin/procmail" is a file (executable), THEN > execute "/usr/bin/procmail -Yf - $username" > return whatever procmail generates for a result code > Else > exit with EX_TEMPFAIL (75) > Fi > Else > exit with EX_TEMPFAIL (75) > Fi > Else > exit with EX_TEMPFAIL (75) > Fi > > Does that make sense to you? Do I get the pony? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - The problem with being poor is that it takes up all of your time - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- for that one you should get the whole ranch!! :-) -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com From sumswap at hotmail.com Tue Mar 8 05:55:25 2005 From: sumswap at hotmail.com (Suman C S) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:25:25 +0530 Subject: Redhat install Message-ID: Hello, I got a DVD that contains Linux ISO files,namely rh1.ISO, rh2.ISO and rh3.ISO. I copied all the 3 files to my hard disk.Then i wrote 3 CDs with these files. But i am not able to boot my system from these CDs. Can anybody help? I use Nero Version 6. I have made CD drive as a boot device in my BIOS settings and is able to boot from Windows installation CD. Suman, Kochi. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jomytabraham1 at rediffmail.com Tue Mar 8 12:44:17 2005 From: jomytabraham1 at rediffmail.com (jomy abraham) Date: 8 Mar 2005 12:44:17 -0000 Subject: Redhat install Message-ID: <20050308124417.18948.qmail@webmail17.rediffmail.com> hi u need to burn the cd as burn from image. On Nero 6.0 , in the "Recorder" menu , there's the "Burn Image" option simply copying and burning it wont help you. regards On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 Suman C S wrote : >Hello, > >I got a DVD that contains Linux ISO files,namely rh1.ISO, rh2.ISO and >rh3.ISO. I copied all the 3 files to my hard disk.Then i wrote 3 CDs with >these files. But i am not able to boot my system from these CDs. Can anybody >help? > >I use Nero Version 6. 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I have made CD drive as a boot device in my BIOS > settings and is able to boot from Windows installation CD. > > [Bill Brunt] > I know Nero works with its .nrg files, > does it work with .iso? Seems like a boot disc is not being created. > If you have KDE installed in your Linux partition, then it is much easier to go with CD/DVD burning software "k3b". Clicking on "Tool" -> "CD" -> "Burn CD image" will do the work for you. ---Tapas From brian.schau at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 15:38:51 2005 From: brian.schau at gmail.com (Brian Schau) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:38:51 +0100 Subject: How do I force Anaconda to not install a bootloader? Message-ID: <4b97db550503080738fc9f027@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Why doesn't kickstart honour the "bootloader --location=none" switch on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 AS? Background. I have created a kickstart script which I will use to setup a lot of servers. The servers runs software raid (level 1) and LVM so I cannot use the default anaconda way of installing a boot loader. So I roll my own setup in the %post section of the kickstart script. The setup have been tested and found to work. I then supply the bootloader --location=none switch in my kickstart script so that no bootloader is installed. (see http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-kickstart2-options.html) Yet, when I execute the kickstart installation, after the post phase, I see a dialog stating, that the boot loader is installed. When I reboot the server I end up in the grub shell. If I manually boot the server and check the anaconda-ks.cfg file I see: bootloader --location=partition ... which isn't what I asked for. So - how do I tell anaconda _not_ to install a bootloader? Kind regards, Brian From roland at cat.be Tue Mar 8 16:16:50 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:16:50 +0100 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <41F68484.3090208@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> Hi everybody, I have fedora core3 installed on my server I try to login with telnet, having installed : telnet-server-0.17-30.i386.rpm The service telnet is on in chkconfig ?list When I login I can enter my login name and password and then he returns me Last login : tue ..from 192.1.1.122 And he stops When I wait long anough it gives me the prompt $ I tried also krb5 but this gives problems with some kind of authentication : Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm while getting initial credentials." ? Does anybody has seen this and solved it? Roland Brouwers roland at cat.be? From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 8 17:26:59 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:26:59 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> References: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <422DE063.7080000@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I have fedora core3 installed on my server > I try to login with telnet, having installed : > telnet-server-0.17-30.i386.rpm The service telnet is on in chkconfig > ?list When I login I can enter my login name and password and then he > returns me Last login : tue ?..from 192.1.1.122 > And he stops > When I wait long anough it gives me the prompt $ I can't speak to that specifically, but the most common cause of that is a faulty DNS setup. The machine you're logging into is trying to reverse-resolve your IP address so it can log where you connected from. It has to wait for DNS to either resolve or time out, and that can take up to 136 seconds (65.536 seconds per timeout, 5 seconds between tries, two retries, see "/usr/include/resolv.h"). Make sure the remote system accesses its DNS server correctly. If reverse DNS is not available and you use a consistent IP address, add it to the /etc/hosts file. > I tried also krb5 but this gives problems with some kind of > authentication : Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested > realm while getting initial credentials." ? KRB5 is a totally different authentication system requiring a kerberos server handing out krb5 "tickets". Since you don't have a kerberos server set up, you can't use it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Never try to outstubborn a cat. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 8 17:32:42 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:32:42 -0800 Subject: How do I force Anaconda to not install a bootloader? In-Reply-To: <4b97db550503080738fc9f027@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b97db550503080738fc9f027@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <422DE1BA.20806@vitalstream.com> Brian Schau wrote: > Hello, > > > Why doesn't kickstart honour the "bootloader --location=none" switch on > Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 AS? > > Background. I have created a kickstart script which I will use to setup > a lot of servers. The servers runs software raid (level 1) and LVM so > I cannot use the default anaconda way of installing a boot loader. > > So I roll my own setup in the %post section of the kickstart script. > The setup have been tested and found to work. I then supply the > > bootloader --location=none > > switch in my kickstart script so that no bootloader is installed. > (see http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-kickstart2-options.html) > > Yet, when I execute the kickstart installation, after the post phase, > I see a dialog stating, that the boot loader is installed. > > When I reboot the server I end up in the grub shell. If I manually > boot the server and check the anaconda-ks.cfg file I see: > > bootloader --location=partition > > ... which isn't what I asked for. > > So - how do I tell anaconda _not_ to install a bootloader? Sounds like a bug to me since "--location=none" is supposed to keep it from happening. I'd file a bugzilla report. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Memory is the second thing to go, but I can't remember the first! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 8 18:08:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:08:27 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <422DE063.7080000@vitalstream.com> References: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> <422DE063.7080000@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <422DEA1B.3090307@vitalstream.com> Rick Stevens wrote: > roland brouwers wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> >> I have fedora core3 installed on my server >> I try to login with telnet, having installed : >> telnet-server-0.17-30.i386.rpm The service telnet is on in chkconfig >> ?list When I login I can enter my login name and password and then he >> returns me Last login : tue ?..from 192.1.1.122 And he stops >> When I wait long anough it gives me the prompt $ > > > I can't speak to that specifically, but the most common cause of that > is a faulty DNS setup. The machine you're logging into is trying to > reverse-resolve your IP address so it can log where you connected from. > It has to wait for DNS to either resolve or time out, and that can take > up to 136 seconds (65.536 seconds per timeout, 5 seconds between tries, > two retries, see "/usr/include/resolv.h"). Make sure the remote system > accesses its DNS server correctly. If reverse DNS is not available and > you use a consistent IP address, add it to the /etc/hosts file. I forgot to mention that, unless you have absolutely no choice, you should NEVER, EVER use telnet. Since telnet transmits everything in cleartext (INCLUDING your passwords), you should never use it unless you can absolutely guarantee the security of your network--and even then you should be very, very concerned that someone is snooping your network-- especially if there is a wireless link in it somewhere. We all recommend you use ssh (secure shell), which encrypts everything (passwords, text, everything) using one of several different ciphers (typically blowfish, CAST128, 3DES or Arcfour) and guarantees integrity of the connection using hmac-md5 or hmac-sha1. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The gene pool could use a little chlorine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From lpickering at cybermation.com Tue Mar 8 18:57:43 2005 From: lpickering at cybermation.com (Larry Pickering) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 13:57:43 -0500 Subject: Installing RedHat Enterprise 3 under z/VM 4.4 Message-ID: Hello list , Has anyone else had a problem were Linux can't see the DASD defined on the z/VM host ? .. The messages on the VM guest seem to be ok, but when I SSH in I get a message saying "no disk drives found" I'm using NFS on a RedHat Enterprise 3 (Intel) machine for the install.. Thanks Larry redhat.parm file ===================== ROOT=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=40000 CMSDASD=191 CMSCONFFILE=redhat.parm DASD=200-202 IPADDR=10.1.15.200 NETWORK=10.1.1.1 NETMASK=255.255.0.0 GATEWAY=10.1.1.1 BROADCAST=10.1.255.255 HOSTNAME=RH01.CYBERMATION.COM MTU=1492 Mini-disk defined ================== LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT BLK TOTAL LNX191 191 A R/W 45 3390 4096 5 2145-26 5955 8100 LNX201 201 B R/W 200 3390 4096 0 11-00 35989 36000 LNX202 202 C R/W 1000 3390 4096 0 19-00 179981 180000 LNX200 200 D R/W 100 3390 4096 0 7-00 17993 18000 MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 692 14304-79 3696 18000 MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1009 26522-59 18478 45000 Log messages on VM guest ============================= Linux version 2.4.21-4.EL (bhcompile at devel5.z900.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-20)) #1 SMP Fri Oct 3 17:30:41 EDT 2003 We are running under VM (64 bit mode) On node 0 totalpages: 65536 zone(0): 65536 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command line: ROOT=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=40000 CMSDASD=191 CMSCONFFILE=redhat.parm DASD=200-202 IPADDR=10.1.15.200 NETWORK=10.1.1.1 NETMASK=255.255.0.0 GATEWAY=10.1.1.1 BROADCAST=10.1.255.255 HOSTNAME=RH01.CYBERMATION.COM MTU=1492 Highest subchannel number detected (hex) : 000E Calibrating delay loop... 304.74 BogoMIPS Memory: 241356k/262144k available (2364k kernel code, 0k reserved, 994k data, 32 4k init) Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Mount cache hash table entries: 256 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) debug: Initialization complete POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Detected 2 CPU's Boot cpu address 0 cpu 0 phys_idx=0 vers=FF ident=0539FA machine=2066 unused=0000 cpu 1 phys_idx=1 vers=FF ident=0539FA machine=2066 unused=0000 Starting migration thread for cpu 0 Starting migration thread for cpu 1 init_mach : starting machine check handler Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket mach_handler : ready mach_handler : waiting for wakeup Starting kswapd VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1 aio_setup: num_physpages = 16384 aio_setup: sizeof(struct page) = 104 pty: 2048 Unix98 ptys configured NET4: Frame Diverter 0.46 RAMDISK driver initialized: 256 RAM disks of 40000K size 1024 blocksize md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. Initializing Cryptographic API NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 12Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192) Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM Initializing IPsec netlink socket NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 Freeing initrd memory: 5486k freed VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 40k freed Starting the zSeries initrd to configure networking. Version is 1.01 Enter which kind of network device do you intend to use (e.g. ctc, escon, iucv, eth, hsi, tr): eth Enter parameters you need to pass to the channel device layer. This includes the I/O ports of your ctc, escon, qeth, hsi and lcs devices. (e.g. "ctc0,0x600,0x601" will activate the ctc0 interface at I/O ports 0x600,0x601) Hipersocket interfaces need to be configured like qeth devices, p.e. qeth0,0x3000,0x3001,0x3002 Additional parameters for QETH devices such as the portname should be entered at the next prompt, not here ! qeth0,0x600,0x0601,0x0602 Each OSA-Express feature in QDIO mode must be associated with a port name Enter additional parameters for your QETH device (e.g. "add_parms,0x10,{lo_devno,hi_devno},portname:port_name") Press enter if you don't want to enter additional parameters add_parms,0x10,0x600,0x602,portname:osdport1 qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 ($Revision: 1.145 $/$Revision: 1.57 $) qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver ($Revision: 1.337 $/$Revision: 1.113 $/$Revision: 1.42 $:VLAN) qeth: allocated 0 spare buffers qeth: Trying to use card with devnos 0x600/0x601/0x602 qeth: Device 0x600/0x601/0x602 is an OSD Express card (level: V440) with link type Gigabit Eth (no portname needed by interface) divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 Enter your DNS server(s), separated by colons (:): 131.50.30.14 Enter your DNS search domain(s) (if any), separated by colons (:): eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:00:01:00:00:00 inet addr:10.1.15.200 Bcast:10.1.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 RX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:8085 (7.8 Kb) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:4 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 lo 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Starting portmap. Journalled Block Device driver loaded Starting telnetd and sshd to allow login over the network. Connect now to 10.1.15.200 to start the installation. sshd(pam_unix)[62]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) * modules to insert vga16fb * module(s) vga16fb not found * load module set done * 249216 kB are available * modules to insert cramfs vfat sunrpc lockd nfs loop isofs floppy * loaded cramfs from /modules/modules.cgz * loaded sunrpc from /modules/modules.cgz * loaded lockd from /modules/modules.cgz * loaded nfs from /modules/modules.cgz * loaded loop from /modules/modules.cgz * module(s) vfat isofs floppy not found * inserted /tmp/cramfs.o * inserted /tmp/sunrpc.o * inserted /tmp/lockd.o * inserted /tmp/nfs.o loop: loaded (max 8 devices) * inserted /tmp/loop.o * load module set done * modules to insert ide-cd * module(s) ide-cd not found * load module set done * modules to insert sd_mod sr_mod * module(s) sd_mod sr_mod not found * load module set done * modules to insert dasd_mod * loaded dasd_mod from /modules/modules.cgz dasd: initializing... dasd: Registered successfully to major no 94 dasd: initialization finished * inserted /tmp/dasd_mod.o * load module set done * modules to insert dasd_diag_mod dasd_fba_mod dasd_eckd_mod * loaded dasd_fba_mod from /modules/modules.cgz * loaded dasd_eckd_mod from /modules/modules.cgz * module(s) dasd_diag_mod not found dasd(fba): FBA discipline initializing dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e667000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e651000 dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e651000 dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e667000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e667000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e651000 dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e651000 dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e667000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e667000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e651000 dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e651000 dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e667000 dasd(fba): We are interested in: Dev 9336/00 @ CU 6310/00 dasd(fba): We are interested in: Dev 3370/00 @ CU 3880/00 * inserted /tmp/dasd_fba_mod.o dasd(eckd): ECKD discipline initializing dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e595000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e593000 dasd(eckd): /dev/dasda ( 94: 0),0200 at 01: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04) Cyl:100 Head:15 S ec:224 dasd(eckd): /dev/dasda ( 94: 0),0200 at 01: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04): Configuration da ta read dasd: No request IRQ dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e58a000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e589000 dasd(eckd): /dev/dasda ( 94: 0),0200 at 01: (4kB blks): 72000kB at 48kB/trk linux disk layout dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdb ( 94: 4),0201 at 02: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04) Cyl:200 Head:15 S ec:224 dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdb ( 94: 4),0201 at 02: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04): Configuration da ta read dasd: No request IRQ dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e583000 dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e582000 dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdb ( 94: 4),0201 at 02: (4kB blks): 144000kB at 48kB/trk linu x disk layout dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdc ( 94: 8),0202 at 03: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04) Cyl:1000 Head:15 Sec:224 dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdc ( 94: 8),0202 at 03: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04): Configuration da ta read dasd: No request IRQ dasd: waiting for responses... dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdc ( 94: 8),0202 at 03: (4kB blks): 720000kB at 48kB/trk linu x disk layout Partition check: dasda:CMS1/ LNX200: dasda1 dasdb:CMS1/ LNX201: dasdb1 dasdc:CMS1/ LNX202: dasdc1 dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 3880/00 dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 3990/00 dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 2105/00 dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 9343/00 * inserted /tmp/dasd_eckd_mod.o * load module set done * looking for usb controllers * no usb controller found * no firewire controller found * no pcic controller found * probing buses * finished bus probing * found nothing * going to set language to en_US.UTF-8 * setting language to en_US.UTF-8 * need to set up networking * going to pick interface * going to do getNetConfig * doing kickstart... setting it up * reverse name lookup worked * starting to STEP_URL * going to do nfsGetSetup * mounting nfs path nissan.cybermation.com:/export/home nfs warning: mount version older than kernel * mounted nissan.cybermation.com:/export/home on /mnt/source * can access stage2.img * mntloop loop0 on /mnt/runtime as /mnt/source/RedHat/base/stage2.img fd is 14 Unable to identify CD-ROM format. VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev loop(7,0). * mntloop loop7 on /tmp/product-disk as /mnt/source/RedHat/base/product.img fd i s 14 Unable to identify CD-ROM format. * recursively copying /tmp/product-disk/lost+found * recursively copying /tmp/product-disk/installclasses * recursively copying /tmp/product-disk/pixmaps * umounting loopback /tmp/product-disk loop7 * after mountStage2, rc is 0 * got url nfs://mnt/source/. * getting ready to spawn shell now %G* modules to insert ide-cd * module(s) ide-cd not found * load module set done * modules to insert sd_mod sr_mod * module(s) sd_mod sr_mod not found * load module set done * probing buses * finished bus probing * found nothing -/bin/sh-2.05b# * modules to insert fsm ctc * loaded fsm from /modules/modules.cgz * loaded ctc from /modules/modules.cgz * inserted /tmp/fsm.o CTC driver Version: 1.57 with CHANDEV support initialized * inserted /tmp/ctc.o * load module set done * modules to insert iucv netiucv * loaded iucv from /modules/modules.cgz * loaded netiucv from /modules/modules.cgz IUCV lowlevel driver Version: 1.39 initialized * inserted /tmp/iucv.o NETIUCV driver Version: 1.21 initialized * inserted /tmp/netiucv.o * load module set done * looking for video cards requiring agpgart module * no video cards found * modules to insert md raid0 raid1 xor raid5 msdos reiserfs jfs xfs lvm-mod * loaded raid0 from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz * loaded raid1 from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz * loaded xor from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz * loaded raid5 from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz * loaded lvm-mod from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz * module(s) md msdos reiserfs jfs xfs not found md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2 * inserted /tmp/raid0.o md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3 * inserted /tmp/raid1.o raid5: measuring checksumming speed 8regs : 471.200 MB/sec 8regs_prefetch: 568.800 MB/sec 32regs : 404.400 MB/sec 32regs_prefetch: 373.200 MB/sec raid5: using function: 8regs_prefetch (568.800 MB/sec) * inserted /tmp/xor.o md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4 * inserted /tmp/raid5.o LVM version 1.0.5+(22/07/2002) module loaded * inserted /tmp/lvm-mod.o * load module set done * NFS install method detected, will use RHupdates/ * Running anaconda script /usr/bin/anaconda sshd(pam_unix)[62]: session closed for user root sending termination signals...done sending kill signals...done disabling swap... unmounting filesystems... ?/mnt/runtime done ?disabling /dev/loop0 ?/proc done ?/dev/pts done ?/tmp/ramfs done ?/mnt/source done you may safely reboot your system Messages received on Telnet session .. ==================================== Warning No hard drives have been found. You probably need to manually choose device drivers for the installation to succeed. Would you like to select drivers now? Devices No device drivers have been loaded for your system. Would you like to load any now? S/390 Channel to Channel (ctc) S/390 Inter-User Communication Vehicle (iucv) (netiucv) An error has occurred - no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 20:32:33 2005 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:32:33 -0600 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <422DEA1B.3090307@vitalstream.com> References: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> <422DE063.7080000@vitalstream.com> <422DEA1B.3090307@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:08:27 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > > I forgot to mention that, unless you have absolutely no choice, you > should NEVER, EVER use telnet. Since telnet transmits everything in > cleartext (INCLUDING your passwords), you should never use it unless you > can absolutely guarantee the security of your network--and even then you > should be very, very concerned that someone is snooping your network-- > especially if there is a wireless link in it somewhere. Good advice in general but encrypted telnet is available on RHEL and FC distributions if you are in an environment supporting it. > We all recommend you use ssh (secure shell), which encrypts everything > (passwords, text, everything) using one of several different ciphers > (typically blowfish, CAST128, 3DES or Arcfour) and guarantees integrity > of the connection using hmac-md5 or hmac-sha1. Agreed when you have the choice. I know of one largish environment with between 30 and 40 thousand users where both ssh and unencrypted telnet are unavailable in places. Encrypted telnet is your only choice. I very much appreciate that Red Hat provides support for this. John From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Tue Mar 8 23:58:19 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 16:58:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: <422D03EF.90003@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > > Peachy. Essentially, your /etc/exports file on the server would look > like: > > /home/brad 192.168/16(rw,no_root_squash) > > To manually start the NFS server code: > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock start > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start > > On the client, you'd add lines to your /etc/fstab that look like: > > nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint nfs rw 0 0 > > If you have that in /etc/fstab, the following two commands will start > the NFS client code and automatically mount any NFS volumes it finds > in /etc/fstab: > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start > /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start > > If you don't have any entries in /etc/fstab, mount the stuff via: > > mount -t nfs nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint > > If you wish to make these permanent (start NFS server processes and > mount them on the NFS client), then you can do the following: > > On the server: > > chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on > chkconfig --levels 2345 nfslock on > chkconfig --levels 2345 nfs on > > On the client: > > chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on > chkconfig --levels 2345 netfs on > > Note that this is only for NFS file sharing. See "man exports" for > details on the /etc/exports file and "man 5 nfs" for the available NFS > options for /etc/fstab and the "mount -t nfs" command. If you wanted to > do it via Samba, I think you already know how since you apparently share > that stuff with Windows already. Just think of the Samba shares as > Windows shares. > > As to the printer, run the printer manager GUI stuff on the machine > where the printer is attached ("system-config-printer" under FC2/3). > Double click on the printer you want to share, then click on the > "Sharing..." button at the bottom of the "Edit a print queue" box. Put > a check in the "This queue is available to other computers" and "All > Hosts" should show up in the list of allowed systems. Click on "OK", > then click on the "Apply" icon in the "Printer Configuration" box to > restart the queues. > > Wait a few minutes for the shared queue to get broadcast, then go to the > client machine and bring up its printer manager. The queue from the > server machine should show up in the "Browsed queues" list. Just double > click it, select it as the default, set up the queue name and driver and > you should be good to go. > > Note that the printer(s) exported from the server will be running the > "IPP" protocol (internet printing protocol, TCP/UDP port 631), should > you need to access them from a machine that doesn't have a GUI or that > can't browse queues on the net. If you need to access it via a URL, > "ipp://printserver/queuename". RFC 3510 describes the IPP URL. > > Hope your brain doesn't bleed after all that! :-) OK, the first part - no problem. I don't seem to be able to "share" my printers. My server is running RH9.0 ans there isn't a Sharing option that I can find in the setup. Thanks, Brad From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 9 00:06:45 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:06:45 -0800 Subject: Linux to Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422E3E15.7040009@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > >>brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>Peachy. Essentially, your /etc/exports file on the server would look >>like: >> >> /home/brad 192.168/16(rw,no_root_squash) >> >>To manually start the NFS server code: >> >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock start >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start >> >>On the client, you'd add lines to your /etc/fstab that look like: >> >> nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint nfs rw 0 0 >> >>If you have that in /etc/fstab, the following two commands will start >>the NFS client code and automatically mount any NFS volumes it finds >>in /etc/fstab: >> >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap start >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start >> >>If you don't have any entries in /etc/fstab, mount the stuff via: >> >> mount -t nfs nfsserver:/home/brad /mountpoint >> >>If you wish to make these permanent (start NFS server processes and >>mount them on the NFS client), then you can do the following: >> >>On the server: >> >> chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on >> chkconfig --levels 2345 nfslock on >> chkconfig --levels 2345 nfs on >> >>On the client: >> >> chkconfig --levels 2345 portmap on >> chkconfig --levels 2345 netfs on >> >>Note that this is only for NFS file sharing. See "man exports" for >>details on the /etc/exports file and "man 5 nfs" for the available NFS >>options for /etc/fstab and the "mount -t nfs" command. If you wanted to >>do it via Samba, I think you already know how since you apparently share >>that stuff with Windows already. Just think of the Samba shares as >>Windows shares. >> >>As to the printer, run the printer manager GUI stuff on the machine >>where the printer is attached ("system-config-printer" under FC2/3). >>Double click on the printer you want to share, then click on the >>"Sharing..." button at the bottom of the "Edit a print queue" box. Put >>a check in the "This queue is available to other computers" and "All >>Hosts" should show up in the list of allowed systems. Click on "OK", >>then click on the "Apply" icon in the "Printer Configuration" box to >>restart the queues. >> >>Wait a few minutes for the shared queue to get broadcast, then go to the >>client machine and bring up its printer manager. The queue from the >>server machine should show up in the "Browsed queues" list. Just double >>click it, select it as the default, set up the queue name and driver and >>you should be good to go. >> >>Note that the printer(s) exported from the server will be running the >>"IPP" protocol (internet printing protocol, TCP/UDP port 631), should >>you need to access them from a machine that doesn't have a GUI or that >>can't browse queues on the net. If you need to access it via a URL, >>"ipp://printserver/queuename". RFC 3510 describes the IPP URL. >> >>Hope your brain doesn't bleed after all that! :-) > > > OK, the first part - no problem. I don't seem to be able to > "share" my printers. My server is running RH9.0 ans there isn't > a Sharing option that I can find in the setup. Oh! Fire up the print manager (RHIcon->System Settings->Printing). Click on "Action" first, then click on "Sharing...". Put a checkmark in "Automatically find remote shared queues" on BOTH machines, click "OK" and "Apply". See if the stuff shows up then. If not, it may be a difference between CUPS and LPrng (I run CUPS). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Where there's a will, I want to be in it. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 9 00:14:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:14:27 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: References: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> <422DE063.7080000@vitalstream.com> <422DEA1B.3090307@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <422E3FE3.1080509@vitalstream.com> inode0 wrote: > On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 10:08:27 -0800, Rick Stevens > wrote: > >>Rick Stevens wrote: >> >>I forgot to mention that, unless you have absolutely no choice, you >>should NEVER, EVER use telnet. Since telnet transmits everything in >>cleartext (INCLUDING your passwords), you should never use it unless you >>can absolutely guarantee the security of your network--and even then you >>should be very, very concerned that someone is snooping your network-- >>especially if there is a wireless link in it somewhere. > > > Good advice in general but encrypted telnet is available on RHEL and > FC distributions if you are in an environment supporting it. Encrypted telnet is fairly rare. If you have it, you undoubtedly can have ssh, and I still vote for ssh. >>We all recommend you use ssh (secure shell), which encrypts everything >>(passwords, text, everything) using one of several different ciphers >>(typically blowfish, CAST128, 3DES or Arcfour) and guarantees integrity >>of the connection using hmac-md5 or hmac-sha1. > > > Agreed when you have the choice. I know of one largish environment > with between 30 and 40 thousand users where both ssh and unencrypted > telnet are unavailable in places. Encrypted telnet is your only > choice. I very much appreciate that Red Hat provides support for this. Any environment that permits unencrypted telnet is dangerous if the network isn't secure. Again, if you have etelnet, you sure as heck can have ssh. And I can't recall if etelnet encrypts the initial logon sequence if you don't have "-a valid" or "-a user" enabled. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 9 00:17:34 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:17:34 -0800 Subject: Installing RedHat Enterprise 3 under z/VM 4.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422E409E.4000605@vitalstream.com> Larry Pickering wrote: > > Hello list , > > Has anyone else had a problem were Linux can't see the DASD defined on > the z/VM host ? .. > > The messages on the VM guest seem to be ok, but when I SSH in I get a > message saying "no disk drives found" > > > I'm using NFS on a RedHat Enterprise 3 (Intel) machine for the install.. > > > Thanks Larry To be honest, I've never used VM, so I can't answer this. Anyone else? > > > > redhat.parm file > > ===================== > > ROOT=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=40000 > CMSDASD=191 > CMSCONFFILE=redhat.parm > DASD=200-202 > IPADDR=10.1.15.200 > NETWORK=10.1.1.1 > NETMASK=255.255.0.0 > GATEWAY=10.1.1.1 > BROADCAST=10.1.255.255 > HOSTNAME=RH01.CYBERMATION.COM > MTU=1492 > > > > Mini-disk defined > > ================== > > LABEL VDEV M STAT CYL TYPE BLKSZ FILES BLKS USED-(%) BLKS LEFT > BLK TOTAL > LNX191 191 A R/W 45 3390 4096 5 2145-26 5955 > 8100 > *LNX201 201 B R/W 200 3390 4096 0 11-00 35989 > 36000* > *LNX202 202 C R/W 1000 3390 4096 0 19-00 179981 > 180000* > *LNX200 200 D R/W 100 3390 4096 0 7-00 17993 > 18000* > MNT190 190 S R/O 100 3390 4096 692 14304-79 3696 > 18000 > MNT19E 19E Y/S R/O 250 3390 4096 1009 26522-59 18478 > 45000 > > > > > > Log messages on VM guest > > ============================= > > Linux version 2.4.21-4.EL (bhcompile at devel5.z900.redhat.com) (gcc > version 3.2.3 > 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-20)) #1 SMP Fri Oct 3 17:30:41 EDT 2003 > > We are running under VM (64 bit mode) > > On node 0 totalpages: 65536 > > zone(0): 65536 pages. > > zone(1): 0 pages. > > zone(2): 0 pages. > > Kernel command line: ROOT=/dev/ram0 ro ip=off ramdisk_size=40000 > CMSDASD=191 > > CMSCONFFILE=redhat.parm > > DASD=200-202 > > IPADDR=10.1.15.200 > > NETWORK=10.1.1.1 > > NETMASK=255.255.0.0 > > GATEWAY=10.1.1.1 > > BROADCAST=10.1.255.255 > > HOSTNAME=RH01.CYBERMATION.COM > > MTU=1492 > > Highest subchannel number detected (hex) : 000E > > Calibrating delay loop... 304.74 BogoMIPS > > Memory: 241356k/262144k available (2364k kernel code, 0k reserved, 994k > data, 32 > 4k init) > > Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) > > Inode cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) > > Mount cache hash table entries: 256 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) > > Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) > > Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) > > debug: Initialization complete > > POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX > > Detected 2 CPU's > > Boot cpu address 0 > > cpu 0 phys_idx=0 vers=FF ident=0539FA machine=2066 unused=0000 > > cpu 1 phys_idx=1 vers=FF ident=0539FA machine=2066 unused=0000 > > Starting migration thread for cpu 0 > > Starting migration thread for cpu 1 > > init_mach : starting machine check handler > > Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 > > Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 > Initializing RT netlink socket > > mach_handler : ready > > mach_handler : waiting for wakeup > Starting kswapd > VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1 > aio_setup: num_physpages = 16384 > > aio_setup: sizeof(struct page) = 104 > > pty: 2048 Unix98 ptys configured > > NET4: Frame Diverter 0.46 > RAMDISK driver initialized: 256 RAM disks of 40000K size 1024 blocksize > md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 > > md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. > > md: autorun ... > md: ... autorun DONE. > Initializing Cryptographic API > > NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 > IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 12Kbytes > TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192) > > Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM > > Initializing IPsec netlink socket > NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. > RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 > > Freeing initrd memory: 5486k freed > > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. > Freeing unused kernel memory: 40k freed > Starting the zSeries initrd to configure networking. Version is 1.01 > > Enter which kind of network device do you intend to use > (e.g. ctc, escon, iucv, eth, hsi, tr): > eth > Enter parameters you need to pass to the channel device layer. > This includes the I/O ports of your ctc, escon, qeth, hsi and lcs > devices. > (e.g. "ctc0,0x600,0x601" will activate the ctc0 interface at I/O > > ports 0x600,0x601) > > Hipersocket interfaces need to be configured like qeth devices, > > p.e. qeth0,0x3000,0x3001,0x3002 > > Additional parameters for QETH devices such as the portname > > should be entered at the next prompt, not here ! > > qeth0,0x600,0x0601,0x0602 > > Each OSA-Express feature in QDIO mode must be associated with a port > name > Enter additional parameters for your QETH device > > (e.g. "add_parms,0x10,{lo_devno,hi_devno},portname:port_name") > > Press enter if you don't want to enter additional parameters > > add_parms,0x10,0x600,0x602,portname:osdport1 > > qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 ($Revision: 1.145 $/$Revision: > 1.57 $) > > > qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver ($Revision: 1.337 > $/$Revision: 1.113 > $/$Revision: 1.42 $:VLAN) > > qeth: allocated 0 spare buffers > > qeth: Trying to use card with devnos 0x600/0x601/0x602 > > qeth: Device 0x600/0x601/0x602 is an OSD Express card (level: V440) > > with link type Gigabit Eth (no portname needed by interface) > > divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0 > > Enter your DNS server(s), separated by colons (:): > > 131.50.30.14 > > Enter your DNS search domain(s) (if any), separated by colons (:): > > > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 02:00:01:00:00:00 > > inet addr:10.1.15.200 Bcast:10.1.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 > > RX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > > RX bytes:8085 (7.8 Kb) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) > > Interrupt:4 > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) > > > > Kernel IP routing table > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use > Iface > 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 > lo > 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 > eth0 > 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 > eth0 > Starting portmap. > > Journalled Block Device driver loaded > > > > Starting telnetd and sshd to allow login over the network. > > > > Connect now to 10.1.15.200 to start the installation. > > sshd(pam_unix)[62]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) > > * modules to insert vga16fb > > * module(s) vga16fb not found > > * load module set done > > * 249216 kB are available > > * modules to insert cramfs vfat sunrpc lockd nfs loop isofs floppy > * loaded cramfs from /modules/modules.cgz > * loaded sunrpc from /modules/modules.cgz > * loaded lockd from /modules/modules.cgz > * loaded nfs from /modules/modules.cgz > * loaded loop from /modules/modules.cgz > * module(s) vfat isofs floppy not found > * inserted /tmp/cramfs.o > * inserted /tmp/sunrpc.o > * inserted /tmp/lockd.o > * inserted /tmp/nfs.o > loop: loaded (max 8 devices) > * inserted /tmp/loop.o > * load module set done > * modules to insert ide-cd > * module(s) ide-cd not found > * load module set done > * modules to insert sd_mod sr_mod > * module(s) sd_mod sr_mod not found > * load module set done > * modules to insert dasd_mod > * loaded dasd_mod from /modules/modules.cgz > dasd: initializing... > dasd: Registered successfully to major no 94 > dasd: initialization finished > * inserted /tmp/dasd_mod.o > * load module set done > * modules to insert dasd_diag_mod dasd_fba_mod dasd_eckd_mod > * loaded dasd_fba_mod from /modules/modules.cgz > * loaded dasd_eckd_mod from /modules/modules.cgz > * module(s) dasd_diag_mod not found > dasd(fba): FBA discipline initializing > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e667000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e651000 > > dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e651000 > > dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e667000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e667000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e651000 > > dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e651000 > > dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e667000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e667000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e651000 > > dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e651000 > > dasd: Free lowmem page :000000000e667000 > > dasd(fba): We are interested in: Dev 9336/00 @ CU 6310/00 > > dasd(fba): We are interested in: Dev 3370/00 @ CU 3880/00 > > * inserted /tmp/dasd_fba_mod.o > > dasd(eckd): ECKD discipline initializing > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e595000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e593000 > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasda ( 94: 0),0200 at 01: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04) Cyl:100 > Head:15 S > ec:224 > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasda ( 94: 0),0200 at 01: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04): > Configuration da > ta read > > dasd: No request IRQ > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e58a000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e589000 > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasda ( 94: 0),0200 at 01: (4kB blks): 72000kB at > 48kB/trk linux > disk layout > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdb ( 94: 4),0201 at 02: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04) Cyl:200 > Head:15 S > ec:224 > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdb ( 94: 4),0201 at 02: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04): > Configuration da > ta read > > dasd: No request IRQ > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e583000 > > dasd: Add lowmem page :000000000e582000 > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdb ( 94: 4),0201 at 02: (4kB blks): 144000kB at > 48kB/trk linu > x disk layout > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdc ( 94: 8),0202 at 03: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04) Cyl:1000 > Head:15 > Sec:224 > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdc ( 94: 8),0202 at 03: 3390/0A(CU:3990/04): > Configuration da > ta read > > dasd: No request IRQ > > dasd: waiting for responses... > > dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdc ( 94: 8),0202 at 03: (4kB blks): 720000kB at > 48kB/trk linu > x disk layout > > Partition check: > > dasda:CMS1/ LNX200: dasda1 > > dasdb:CMS1/ LNX201: dasdb1 > > dasdc:CMS1/ LNX202: dasdc1 > > dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 3880/00 > > dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 3990/00 > > dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 2105/00 > > dasd(eckd): We are interested in: CU 9343/00 > > * inserted /tmp/dasd_eckd_mod.o > > * load module set done > > * looking for usb controllers > > * no usb controller found > > * no firewire controller found > > * no pcic controller found > > * probing buses > * finished bus probing > > * found nothing > > * going to set language to en_US.UTF-8 > > * setting language to en_US.UTF-8 > > * need to set up networking > > * going to pick interface > > * going to do getNetConfig > > * doing kickstart... setting it up > > * reverse name lookup worked > > * starting to STEP_URL > > * going to do nfsGetSetup > > * mounting nfs path nissan.cybermation.com:/export/home > > nfs warning: mount version older than kernel > > * mounted nissan.cybermation.com:/export/home on /mnt/source > > * can access stage2.img > > * mntloop loop0 on /mnt/runtime as /mnt/source/RedHat/base/stage2.img fd > is 14 > Unable to identify CD-ROM format. > > VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev loop(7,0). > > * mntloop loop7 on /tmp/product-disk as > /mnt/source/RedHat/base/product.img fd i > s 14 > > Unable to identify CD-ROM format. > > * recursively copying /tmp/product-disk/lost+found > > * recursively copying /tmp/product-disk/installclasses > > * recursively copying /tmp/product-disk/pixmaps > > * umounting loopback /tmp/product-disk loop7 > > * after mountStage2, rc is 0 > > * got url nfs://mnt/source/. > > * getting ready to spawn shell now > > %G* modules to insert ide-cd > > * module(s) ide-cd not found > * load module set done > > * modules to insert sd_mod sr_mod > > * module(s) sd_mod sr_mod not found > > * load module set done > > * probing buses > > * finished bus probing > > * found nothing > > -/bin/sh-2.05b# * modules to insert fsm ctc > > * loaded fsm from /modules/modules.cgz > > * loaded ctc from /modules/modules.cgz > > * inserted /tmp/fsm.o > > CTC driver Version: 1.57 with CHANDEV support initialized > > * inserted /tmp/ctc.o > > * load module set done > > * modules to insert iucv netiucv > > * loaded iucv from /modules/modules.cgz > > * loaded netiucv from /modules/modules.cgz > > IUCV lowlevel driver Version: 1.39 initialized > > * inserted /tmp/iucv.o > > NETIUCV driver Version: 1.21 initialized > > * inserted /tmp/netiucv.o > > * load module set done > > * looking for video cards requiring agpgart module > > * no video cards found > > * modules to insert md raid0 raid1 xor raid5 msdos reiserfs jfs xfs > lvm-mod > * loaded raid0 from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz > > * loaded raid1 from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz > > * loaded xor from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz > > * loaded raid5 from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz > > * loaded lvm-mod from /mnt/runtime/modules/modules.cgz > * module(s) md msdos reiserfs jfs xfs not found > md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2 > * inserted /tmp/raid0.o > md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3 > * inserted /tmp/raid1.o > raid5: measuring checksumming speed > 8regs : 471.200 MB/sec > 8regs_prefetch: 568.800 MB/sec > 32regs : 404.400 MB/sec > 32regs_prefetch: 373.200 MB/sec > raid5: using function: 8regs_prefetch (568.800 MB/sec) > * inserted /tmp/xor.o > md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4 > * inserted /tmp/raid5.o > LVM version 1.0.5+(22/07/2002) module loaded > * inserted /tmp/lvm-mod.o > * load module set done > * NFS install method detected, will use RHupdates/ > * Running anaconda script /usr/bin/anaconda > sshd(pam_unix)[62]: session closed for user root > sending termination signals...done > sending kill signals...done > disabling swap... > unmounting filesystems... > ?/mnt/runtime done > ?disabling /dev/loop0 > ?/proc done > ?/dev/pts done > ?/tmp/ramfs done > ?/mnt/source done > you may safely reboot your system > > > > > > > > Messages received on Telnet session .. > > ==================================== > > Warning > No hard drives have been found. > You probably need to manually > choose device drivers for the > installation to succeed. Would > you like to select drivers now? > > > > > Devices > No device drivers have been loaded for your > system. Would you like to load any now? > > > > > > S/390 Channel to Channel (ctc) > > S/390 Inter-User Communication Vehicle (iucv) (netiucv) > > > > > An error has occurred - no valid devices > were found on which to create new file > systems. Please check your hardware for > the cause of this problem. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - It is better to have loved and lost. Cheaper, too! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 04:08:45 2005 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:08:45 -0600 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <422E3FE3.1080509@vitalstream.com> References: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> <422DE063.7080000@vitalstream.com> <422DEA1B.3090307@vitalstream.com> <422E3FE3.1080509@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:14:27 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > inode0 wrote: > > Good advice in general but encrypted telnet is available on RHEL and > > FC distributions if you are in an environment supporting it. > > Encrypted telnet is fairly rare. If you have it, you undoubtedly can > have ssh, and I still vote for ssh. It is one of the few athena type environments with kerberos and afs. The combination of needing tokens to get to your home directory, needing to authenticate to kerberos to get the tokens, and sshd cause something of a chicken and egg problem resulting in having to, in essence, login twice to use ssh on incoming connections. The powers that be don't run sshd on these machines for accounting reasons, so we don't have that option even if we wished to choose it. > > Agreed when you have the choice. I know of one largish environment > > with between 30 and 40 thousand users where both ssh and unencrypted > > telnet are unavailable in places. Encrypted telnet is your only > > choice. I very much appreciate that Red Hat provides support for this. > > Any environment that permits unencrypted telnet is dangerous if the > network isn't secure. Again, if you have etelnet, you sure as heck can > have ssh. And I can't recall if etelnet encrypts the initial logon > sequence if you don't have "-a valid" or "-a user" enabled. Generally forwarded tickets are used to authenticate so no passwords go across the network in any case. Unencrypted telnet is clearly dangerous and that is why it isn't even an option in this environment. If you don't negotiate an encrypted session, telnetd says goodbye to you. I completely agree with the gist of everything you've said. My only point is that encrypted telnet does exist and is useful when other options are unavailable. I see telnet portrayed as insecure so often that occasionally I feel the need to point out that, while it is true that it generally is insecure, it doesn't have to be insecure. In the world I live in, telnet is both secure and valuable. It doesn't have anything to do with installing Red Hat stuff though, so I'll apologize for butting in with this and quietly butt back out now. John From kes_bang at yahoo.com Wed Mar 9 12:10:27 2005 From: kes_bang at yahoo.com (keshav murthy) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 04:10:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: unsuscribe Message-ID: <20050309121027.44498.qmail@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Moderator Please unsubscribe my id from this mailing list. Thanks Keshav --------------------------------- Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 9 17:30:22 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:30:22 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: References: <002501c523fa$3c45a300$7a0101c0@pccat03> <422DE063.7080000@vitalstream.com> <422DEA1B.3090307@vitalstream.com> <422E3FE3.1080509@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <422F32AE.1090704@vitalstream.com> inode0 wrote: > On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:14:27 -0800, Rick Stevens > wrote: > >>inode0 wrote: >> >>>Good advice in general but encrypted telnet is available on RHEL and >>>FC distributions if you are in an environment supporting it. >> >>Encrypted telnet is fairly rare. If you have it, you undoubtedly can >>have ssh, and I still vote for ssh. > > > It is one of the few athena type environments with kerberos and afs. > The combination of needing tokens to get to your home directory, > needing to authenticate to kerberos to get the tokens, and sshd cause > something of a chicken and egg problem resulting in having to, in > essence, login twice to use ssh on incoming connections. The powers > that be don't run sshd on these machines for accounting reasons, so we > don't have that option even if we wished to choose it. I see your point. Obviously you have designed a pretty secure network and etelnet is appropriate for that. >>Any environment that permits unencrypted telnet is dangerous if the >>network isn't secure. Again, if you have etelnet, you sure as heck can >>have ssh. And I can't recall if etelnet encrypts the initial logon >>sequence if you don't have "-a valid" or "-a user" enabled. > > > Generally forwarded tickets are used to authenticate so no passwords > go across the network in any case. Unencrypted telnet is clearly > dangerous and that is why it isn't even an option in this environment. > If you don't negotiate an encrypted session, telnetd says goodbye to > you. Ah. I wasn't clear that you had deployed Kerberos. Most of my objections evaporate in that case. > > I completely agree with the gist of everything you've said. My only > point is that encrypted telnet does exist and is useful when other > options are unavailable. I see telnet portrayed as insecure so often > that occasionally I feel the need to point out that, while it is true > that it generally is insecure, it doesn't have to be insecure. In the > world I live in, telnet is both secure and valuable. > > It doesn't have anything to do with installing Red Hat stuff though, > so I'll apologize for butting in with this and quietly butt back out > now. No, no. Jump in whenever you think you have something germane to the discussion. I appologize for not quite getting what your environment was. I often jump on the "don't ever use telnet" cart because the vast majority of the audience of this and the fedora-list are relative newbies and don't realize the security problems of standard telnet. They launch the telnet daemon, get hacked, and wonder why. I'm simply trying to prevent the from "learning the hard way". > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - What is a "free" gift? Aren't all gifts free? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tpotter at techmarin.com Wed Mar 9 19:17:16 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:17:16 -0800 Subject: remote control with local display Message-ID: <1110395835.12925.4.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Greetings, There is a remote RH9 computer that we would like to take control of. I think I understand how to do that part. However we would like the "session" to show up on the local display so that the user can see what we are doing. Does anyone know of a product that will provide that ? my thinking is that vnc or rdesktop will not display the remote session on the local desktop. The purpose is to provide the user training. Thanks for any hints or pointers. Ted -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com www.techmarin.com From jkinz at kinz.org Wed Mar 9 19:57:08 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 14:57:08 -0500 Subject: remote control with local display In-Reply-To: <1110395835.12925.4.camel@interjet.techmarin.com>; from tpotter@techmarin.com on Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:17:16AM -0800 References: <1110395835.12925.4.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: <20050309145708.A17925@redline.comcast.net> On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:17:16AM -0800, Ted Potter wrote: > However we would like the "session" to show up on the local display so > that the user can see what we are doing. > > Does anyone know of a product that will provide that ? my thinking is > that vnc or rdesktop will not display the remote session on the local > desktop. Sounds like "teacher tool" used by many people in the ltsp and k12osn lists. not sure where it is but you can ask them on their respective mailing lists. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss Here is one posting about it: http://email.riverdale.k12.or.us/mailarchives/k12ltspdig/1272.html -- "The only system which is truly secure, is one which is switched off and unplugged, locked in a titanium lined safe, buried in a concrete bunker, surrounded by nerve gas and very highly paid armed guards. Even then, I wouldn't stake my life on it" - Gene Spafford http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 9 23:39:10 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:39:10 -0800 Subject: remote control with local display In-Reply-To: <20050309145708.A17925@redline.comcast.net> References: <1110395835.12925.4.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <20050309145708.A17925@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <422F891E.3020205@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:17:16AM -0800, Ted Potter wrote: > >>However we would like the "session" to show up on the local display so >>that the user can see what we are doing. >> >>Does anyone know of a product that will provide that ? my thinking is >>that vnc or rdesktop will not display the remote session on the local >>desktop. > > > Sounds like "teacher tool" used by many people in the ltsp and k12osn > lists. not sure where it is but you can ask them on their respective > mailing lists. > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12osn > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss > > > Here is one posting about it: > http://email.riverdale.k12.or.us/mailarchives/k12ltspdig/1272.html You can also set up X on that machine to include the vncserver module. Then, if you vncviewer it, both users see what's going on. Make sure you have the /usr/X11R6/modules/extensions/vnc.so module, then edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config and add this line: Load "vnc" to the 'Section "Module"' part and add: Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" to the 'Section "Screen"' part (the path must be to the vnc password file of some user). Samples: Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" Load "dri" Load "vnc" <<<---! EndSection - - - Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" <<<---! SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Restart the X server (log out and back in, or give it the old "CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE") and the main display will now be accessible via both the local screen and vncviewer. Both are active, too (both local and remote can move the cursor, enter data, run programs, etc.) Note that the local display may be just a bit slower on refreshes when a remote user is also attached. It should be pretty normal if no one is "vncviewering" the display. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards, you'll hear - - Satanic messages, but if you play it forwards, it will install - - Windows...which means Satan is in your system. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tpotter at techmarin.com Thu Mar 10 17:42:23 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:42:23 -0800 Subject: remote control with local display In-Reply-To: <422F891E.3020205@vitalstream.com> References: <1110395835.12925.4.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <20050309145708.A17925@redline.comcast.net> <422F891E.3020205@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <1110476543.3322.10.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 15:39, Rick Stevens wrote: > You can also set up X on that machine to include the vncserver module. > Then, if you vncviewer it, both users see what's going on. Make sure > you have the /usr/X11R6/modules/extensions/vnc.so module, then edit > the /etc/X11/XF86Config and add this line: > > Load "vnc" > > to the 'Section "Module"' part and add: > > Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" > > to the 'Section "Screen"' part (the path must be to the vnc password > file of some user). Samples: > > Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "extmod" > Load "fbdevhw" > Load "glx" > Load "record" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > Load "dri" > Load "vnc" <<<---! > EndSection > - > - > - > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" <<<---! > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" > "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > Restart the X server (log out and back in, or give it the old > "CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE") and the main display will now be accessible via > both the local screen and vncviewer. Both are active, too (both local > and remote can move the cursor, enter data, run programs, etc.) Note > that the local display may be just a bit slower on refreshes when a > remote user is also attached. It should be pretty normal if no one is > "vncviewering" the display. and voila ! it works. My RH9 did not have the vnc.so file so I got it from: http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/ which also includes a modified XF86Config file. My only misunderstanding was running the client - use 0 for the display ie vncclient 192.168.123.5:0 Thank you Rick, as well as to the others who responded. Oh goodie now I can sit and munch donuts, no more driving around town to fix things. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 10 18:09:43 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:09:43 -0800 Subject: remote control with local display In-Reply-To: <1110476543.3322.10.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> References: <1110395835.12925.4.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> <20050309145708.A17925@redline.comcast.net> <422F891E.3020205@vitalstream.com> <1110476543.3322.10.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: <42308D67.70904@vitalstream.com> Ted Potter wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 15:39, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>You can also set up X on that machine to include the vncserver module. >>Then, if you vncviewer it, both users see what's going on. Make sure >>you have the /usr/X11R6/modules/extensions/vnc.so module, then edit >>the /etc/X11/XF86Config and add this line: >> >> Load "vnc" >> >>to the 'Section "Module"' part and add: >> >> Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" >> >>to the 'Section "Screen"' part (the path must be to the vnc password >>file of some user). Samples: >> >> Section "Module" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "fbdevhw" >> Load "glx" >> Load "record" >> Load "freetype" >> Load "type1" >> Load "dri" >> Load "vnc" <<<---! >> EndSection >> - >> - >> - >> Section "Screen" >> Identifier "Screen0" >> Device "Videocard0" >> Monitor "Monitor0" >> DefaultDepth 24 >> Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" <<<---! >> SubSection "Display" >> Depth 24 >> Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" >> "800x600" "640x480" >> EndSubSection >> EndSection >> >> >>Restart the X server (log out and back in, or give it the old >>"CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE") and the main display will now be accessible via >>both the local screen and vncviewer. Both are active, too (both local >>and remote can move the cursor, enter data, run programs, etc.) Note >>that the local display may be just a bit slower on refreshes when a >>remote user is also attached. It should be pretty normal if no one is >>"vncviewering" the display. > > > and voila ! it works. My RH9 did not have the vnc.so file so > I got it from: > http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/ > > which also includes a modified XF86Config file. My only misunderstanding > was running the client - use 0 for the display ie > > vncclient 192.168.123.5:0 By default, ":0" is assumed. I suggest you simply use "vncviewer 192.168.123.5". The nice thing about this is also that you can firewall the heck out of that machine, but leave ssh open (port 22). Then: vncviewer -via 192.168.123.5 192.168.123.5 will tunnel the vnc session over ssh. The IP address after "-via" is used as a gateway. This isn't really an issue for you since you're on a private network, but for anyone out there where their machine is on the Internet and they want to do a similar thing, tunneling X over ssh is a "good thing". I do it all the time. Most of my machines deny any outside access except for ssh. This lets me "remote control" the whole thing. Note that a ssh-tunneled X session is slower, but it's secure. > Thank you Rick, as well as to the others who responded. Oh goodie now I > can sit and munch donuts, no more driving around town to fix things. Cool! Glad to help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up this floppy disk?" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mikerault at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 20:13:38 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:13:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Have static IP, now what Message-ID: <20050310201338.63711.qmail@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have just recieved a static IP assignment from my DSL provider. Now what do I do? I assume the DSL router will get the static IP, how will my 7-8 other systems get theirs assigned? How will I attach to them from the outside? I assume one will have to be placed outside the firewall as a "gatekeeper" to allow me to get in. Do I set up a DNS? RIght now I use DHCP with a set of addresses assigned by the DSL router. Any good links to a how-to site would be great. Thanks. Mike Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From rbj2 at oak.njit.edu Thu Mar 10 20:54:06 2005 From: rbj2 at oak.njit.edu (Rahul Jain) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:54:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Have static IP, now what In-Reply-To: <20050310201338.63711.qmail@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050310201338.63711.qmail@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, The best thing, I think, in your case would be to setup an internal LAN of your 7-8 systems with private IP addr. You would need to setup a NAT router that will have the static IP and be responsible for your private LAN to get on the net. The following link is not the best, but can be good start http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Home-Network-mini-HOWTO-3.html --Rahul. On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Michael Ault wrote: > > > I have just recieved a static IP assignment from my > DSL provider. Now what do I do? I assume the DSL > router will get the static IP, how will my 7-8 other > systems get theirs assigned? How will I attach to them > from the outside? > > I assume one will have to be placed outside the > firewall as a "gatekeeper" to allow me to get in. > > Do I set up a DNS? RIght now I use DHCP with a set of > addresses assigned by the DSL router. > > Any good links to a how-to site would be great. > > Thanks. > > Mike > > Michael R. Ault > Senior Consultant > Burleson Oracle Consulting > 770-754-9057 > www.ault.cc > www.remote-dba.com > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From harold at hallikainen.com Thu Mar 10 20:58:04 2005 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:58:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Have static IP, now what In-Reply-To: <20050310201338.63711.qmail@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050310201338.63711.qmail@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44801.207.177.227.29.1110488284.squirrel@kauko.hallikainen.org> It kinda depends on what you want to do. What I've done is get a Linksys 8 port router. I turn on DHCP serving in the router. I limit the range of addresses it assigns to about half the range (about 128 addresses). Servers on the network get static IP addresses outside this range. Non-servers just use DHCP. Port forwarding is set up in the router to send the appropriate port requests to the appropriate server on the LAN based on the server's IP address. This is using Network Address Translation. Works well for me! There's also the Linux Router Project which, as I understand it, lets you do something similar with a machine that is currently gathering dust. I believe the whole set of software fits on a floppy. The Linksys router, however, has served me well. I went to the 8 port to get QOS settings so I could give priority to my sip phone. Harold > I have just recieved a static IP assignment from my > DSL provider. Now what do I do? I assume the DSL > router will get the static IP, how will my 7-8 other > systems get theirs assigned? How will I attach to them > from the outside? > > I assume one will have to be placed outside the > firewall as a "gatekeeper" to allow me to get in. > > Do I set up a DNS? RIght now I use DHCP with a set of > addresses assigned by the DSL router. > > Any good links to a how-to site would be great. > > Thanks. > > Mike -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Mar 10 21:11:59 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:11:59 -0600 Subject: Have static IP, now what In-Reply-To: <20050310201338.63711.qmail@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050310201338.63711.qmail@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050310211159.GA3475@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 12:13:38PM -0800, Michael Ault wrote: > I have just recieved a static IP assignment from my > DSL provider. Now what do I do? I assume the DSL > router will get the static IP, how will my 7-8 other > systems get theirs assigned? I presume you got a single IP address. You need to configure your DSL router to use that address on its out side instead of its previous DHCP setting. > How will I attach to them from the outside? Not sure how you were set up, but normally the in side of your DSL router is connected to a hub or switch, to which all your inside machines connect, and your LAN will continue to be served non-routable IP addresses by DHCP from your router, usually from the 192.168.1.0 block. > I assume one will have to be placed outside the > firewall as a "gatekeeper" to allow me to get in. Not sure what you mean. If the DSL router has no firewalling capabilities, you should put one between the DSL router and the internal network. I have a simple DSL modem (no router function) so I have an old cast-off Linux box with three network cards (at least two required) that serves as my NAT/firewall/router. One card goes to the DSL modem, one goes to my LAN hub, and one goes to my DMZ, a single machine running my mail and web servers. Your router may assume an inside address of 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.254. That will be the "gateway" address for the rest of your machines. > Do I set up a DNS? RIght now I use DHCP with a set of > addresses assigned by the DSL router. If your ISP didn't specify one or more DNS servers, you can probably use the same ones that were configured by DHCP. > Any good links to a how-to site would be great. http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html > Thanks. > > Mike > > Michael R. Ault > Senior Consultant > Burleson Oracle Consulting > 770-754-9057 > www.ault.cc > www.remote-dba.com Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From mikerault at yahoo.com Thu Mar 10 21:17:49 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:17:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Have static IP, now what In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050310211749.95517.qmail@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My DSL is a 2wire modem/router that allows you to pick a single machine to be outside of the firewall. I assume I would place the mail server/etc. there as you have described doing. Thanks. Mike --- Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 12:13:38PM -0800, Michael > Ault wrote: > > I have just recieved a static IP assignment from > my > > DSL provider. Now what do I do? I assume the DSL > > router will get the static IP, how will my 7-8 > other > > systems get theirs assigned? > > I presume you got a single IP address. You need to > configure your DSL > router to use that address on its out side instead > of its previous > DHCP setting. > > > How will I attach to them from the outside? > > Not sure how you were set up, but normally the in > side of your DSL > router is connected to a hub or switch, to which all > your inside > machines connect, and your LAN will continue to be > served non-routable > IP addresses by DHCP from your router, usually from > the 192.168.1.0 > block. > > > I assume one will have to be placed outside the > > firewall as a "gatekeeper" to allow me to get in. > > Not sure what you mean. If the DSL router has no > firewalling > capabilities, you should put one between the DSL > router and the > internal network. I have a simple DSL modem (no > router function) so I > have an old cast-off Linux box with three network > cards (at least two > required) that serves as my NAT/firewall/router. > One card goes to the > DSL modem, one goes to my LAN hub, and one goes to > my DMZ, a single > machine running my mail and web servers. > > Your router may assume an inside address of > 192.168.1.1 or > 192.168.1.254. That will be the "gateway" address > for the rest of > your machines. > > > Do I set up a DNS? RIght now I use DHCP with a set > of > > addresses assigned by the DSL router. > > If your ISP didn't specify one or more DNS servers, > you can probably > use the same ones that were configured by DHCP. > > > Any good links to a how-to site would be great. > > http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html > > > Thanks. > > > > Mike > > > > Michael R. Ault > > Senior Consultant > > Burleson Oracle Consulting > > 770-754-9057 > > www.ault.cc > > www.remote-dba.com > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, > Inc. > robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com > Worry is a waste of the imagination. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Michael R. 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URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Mar 10 22:57:24 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:57:24 -0600 Subject: Have static IP, now what In-Reply-To: <20050310211749.95517.qmail@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050310211749.95517.qmail@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050310225724.GA6850@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 01:17:49PM -0800, Michael Ault wrote: > My DSL is a 2wire modem/router that allows you to pick > a single machine to be outside of the firewall. I > assume I would place the mail server/etc. there as you > have described doing. I dunno. I'm not very familiar with those boxes. You normally want your DMZ protected by the firewall, but separate from your internal net. Ideally, you cannot get from your DMZ to your internal LAN, save possibly by SSH. I don't even allow that. But you can get from your internal LAN to the DMZ. In simple graphics, here is my setup: outside (DSL modem) ____________ | | |---' | firewall |----- DMZ | |---. |__________| | LAN > Thanks. > > Mike Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Thu Mar 10 23:41:27 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:41:27 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A822@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Ok.. good question here. If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support .procmailrc files for those users as procmail only appears to look at $HOME/.procmailrc. Thanks. From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Mar 10 23:49:53 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:49:53 -0600 Subject: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A822@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A822@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <20050310234953.GA9040@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > Ok.. good question here. > > If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an > invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support .procmailrc > files for those users as procmail only appears to look at > $HOME/.procmailrc. Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not /etc/.procmailrc) and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? > Thanks. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 10 23:51:31 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:51:31 -0800 Subject: Have static IP, now what In-Reply-To: <20050310225724.GA6850@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20050310211749.95517.qmail@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20050310225724.GA6850@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4230DD83.6090708@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 01:17:49PM -0800, Michael Ault wrote: > >>My DSL is a 2wire modem/router that allows you to pick >>a single machine to be outside of the firewall. I >>assume I would place the mail server/etc. there as you >>have described doing. > > > I dunno. I'm not very familiar with those boxes. You normally want > your DMZ protected by the firewall, but separate from your internal > net. Ideally, you cannot get from your DMZ to your internal LAN, save > possibly by SSH. I don't even allow that. But you can get from your > internal LAN to the DMZ. In simple graphics, here is my setup: > > outside (DSL modem) > ____________ | > | |---' > | firewall |----- DMZ > | |---. > |__________| | > LAN Yes, Bob has the most common setup described right there. Typically, the DMZ (or "bastion box") has all of the services that the outside world may need to INITIATE a connection to (incoming mail, FTP, web server, etc.). The idea is that, if a box is going to get hacked, it's THAT box only. Everything else is protected. By default, the firewall/router has routes between the outside world and the DMZ, and between the outside world and the LAN (using NAT as needed). Default firewall rules prohibit the DMZ from _initiating_ a connection between the DMZ and the LAN, so even if the DMZ gets hacked, your LAN stuff is protected. As an example, with incoming mail running on the DMZ, your mail would be delivered to the DMZ, and you'd use something like fetchmail to grab it from there and put it on your local machine on the LAN. The point is that your local machine requests stuff from the DMZ--the DMZ can't unilaterally access your local machine. You can, of course, bugger the routes and rules on the firewall/router or set up port forwarding as your needs dictate. The firewall/router also typically has a DHCP server for the LAN side and sets up appropriate NAT rules for any connections initiated from the LAN to the outside. That way everyone on the LAN shares the external IP of the firewall/router. The DHCP also typically sets itself as the default route for the DHCP clients and also sets up the DNS server info for the DHCP clients. No, you don't need to set up a local DNS server unless you want to access the machines on the LAN segment by name--just use your ISP's servers. The DHCP server should set that up automatically. If you do want to set up a DNS server, that's also often set up on the bastion, although some firewall/routers also have a DNS server--albeit a limited one--that ties into its DHCP database. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Doctor! My brain hurts!" "It will have to come out!" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Fri Mar 11 00:02:00 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:02:00 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A829@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: procmailrc question > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > Ok.. good question here. > > > > If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an > > invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support .procmailrc > > files for those users as procmail only appears to look at > > $HOME/.procmailrc. > > Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not /etc/.procmailrc) > and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be > owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). > > I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? In short, I have a mess here. We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our sendmail server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. But our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled properly. The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if it's just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc (otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. Hope that made some sense. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Mar 11 00:19:09 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:19:09 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: <20050310234953.GA9040@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A822@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> <20050310234953.GA9040@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4230E3FD.1030104@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>Ok.. good question here. >> >>If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an >>invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support .procmailrc >>files for those users as procmail only appears to look at >>$HOME/.procmailrc. > > > Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not /etc/.procmailrc) > and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be > owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). True. One can also set up the "ForwardPath" option in the sendmail.cf file to give a list of directories to search. For example, this line: O ForwardPath=/usr/local/etc/forwards/$u.forward:$z/.forward If the incoming mail was for user "fred", that line would cause the system to first look for a "/usr/local/etc/forwards/fred.forward" file If found, it is used. If not, it tries to find a ".forward" file in fred's home directory. You can see that the system defaults to: O ForwardPath=$z/.forward "$z" is filled in with the user's home directory after sendmail does a getpwent()-style call. > I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? I second that question. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Mar 11 00:21:43 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:21:43 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A829@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A829@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4230E497.4050003@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] >>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: procmailrc question >> >>On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>Ok.. good question here. >>> >>>If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an >>>invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support > > .procmailrc > >>>files for those users as procmail only appears to look at >>>$HOME/.procmailrc. >> >>Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not /etc/.procmailrc) >>and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be >>owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). >> >>I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? > > > In short, I have a mess here. > > We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our sendmail > server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. But > our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled properly. > > The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if it's > just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. > > So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc > (otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. See my earlier response. The sendmail.cf line to use would be O ForwardPath=/acct/$u/.procmailrc:/acct.hp/$u/.procmailrc:\ $z/.procmailrc (line wrapped for readability) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Fri Mar 11 00:23:14 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:23:14 -0600 Subject: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A829@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3A829@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <20050311002314.GA9920@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:02:00PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: procmailrc question > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > Ok.. good question here. > > > > > > If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an > > > invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support > .procmailrc > > > files for those users as procmail only appears to look at > > > $HOME/.procmailrc. > > > > Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not /etc/.procmailrc) > > and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be > > owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). > > > > I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? > > In short, I have a mess here. > > We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our sendmail > server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. But > our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled properly. > > The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if it's > just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. > > So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc > (otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. > > Hope that made some sense. Hmm. Well, sendmail determines each user's HOME directory from /etc/passwd. That (his HOME) is where the user's .procmailrc should reside. How does that relate to the two user worlds? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Mar 11 00:26:03 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:26:03 -0800 Subject: dds 5 tape drive In-Reply-To: <200503102245.j2AMjsMX023535@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200503102245.j2AMjsMX023535@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4230E59B.6090507@vitalstream.com> Mitchell Gage wrote: > Good morning, > > > > I?ve just taken delivery of a new server, and have discovered that > backup to tape isn?t working. The tape drive is found in all the right > messages and logs, but a simple tar command to the tape drive gives me : > > > > tar: /dev/st0: Wrote only 0 of 10240 bytes > > tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now > > > > or a command to just eject the tape from the tape drive gives me ?No > such device? as follows: > > > > /usr/local/bin : mt -f /dev/st0 eject > > /dev/st0: No such device > > > > I?m told by IBM tech support that my IBM DDS 5 (Dat 72) tape drive is > not going to work for me under the Redhat ES 3 operating system ? has > anyone else come across this ? Or is there any way around it ? Is this a SCSI or IDE tape interface? If it's IDE, you may have to modprobe the "ide-scsi" module to make it appear as a SCSI device. I won't swear to that, but since ES3 is based on the 2.4 kernel, the ide-scsi module is still used. ES4/FC2/FC3 on a 2.6 kernel don't use ide-scsi any longer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Fri Mar 11 01:56:52 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:56:52 -0600 Subject: dds 5 tape drive In-Reply-To: <4230E59B.6090507@vitalstream.com> References: <200503102245.j2AMjsMX023535@mx3.redhat.com> <4230E59B.6090507@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <20050311015651.GA12667@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:26:03PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mitchell Gage wrote: > >Good morning, > > > > > > > >I?ve just taken delivery of a new server, and have discovered that > >backup to tape isn?t working. The tape drive is found in all the right > >messages and logs, but a simple tar command to the tape drive gives me : > > > > > > > >tar: /dev/st0: Wrote only 0 of 10240 bytes > > > >tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now > > > > > > > >or a command to just eject the tape from the tape drive gives me ?No > >such device? as follows: > > > > > > > >/usr/local/bin : mt -f /dev/st0 eject > > > >/dev/st0: No such device > > > > > > > >I?m told by IBM tech support that my IBM DDS 5 (Dat 72) tape drive is > >not going to work for me under the Redhat ES 3 operating system ? has > >anyone else come across this ? Or is there any way around it ? > > Is this a SCSI or IDE tape interface? If it's IDE, you may have to > modprobe the "ide-scsi" module to make it appear as a SCSI device. > I won't swear to that, but since ES3 is based on the 2.4 kernel, the > ide-scsi module is still used. ES4/FC2/FC3 on a 2.6 kernel don't use > ide-scsi any longer. Umm, perhaps you mean ide-tape is no longer used. You put me on to ide-scsi, which works pretty well for my IDE tape drive. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Mar 11 18:26:28 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:26:28 -0800 Subject: dds 5 tape drive In-Reply-To: <20050311015651.GA12667@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <200503102245.j2AMjsMX023535@mx3.redhat.com> <4230E59B.6090507@vitalstream.com> <20050311015651.GA12667@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4231E2D4.10007@vitalstream.com> Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:26:03PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>Mitchell Gage wrote: >> >>>Good morning, >>> >>> >>> >>>I?ve just taken delivery of a new server, and have discovered that >>>backup to tape isn?t working. The tape drive is found in all the right >>>messages and logs, but a simple tar command to the tape drive gives me : >>> >>> >>> >>>tar: /dev/st0: Wrote only 0 of 10240 bytes >>> >>>tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now >>> >>> >>> >>>or a command to just eject the tape from the tape drive gives me ?No >>>such device? as follows: >>> >>> >>> >>>/usr/local/bin : mt -f /dev/st0 eject >>> >>>/dev/st0: No such device >>> >>> >>> >>>I?m told by IBM tech support that my IBM DDS 5 (Dat 72) tape drive is >>>not going to work for me under the Redhat ES 3 operating system ? has >>>anyone else come across this ? Or is there any way around it ? >> >>Is this a SCSI or IDE tape interface? If it's IDE, you may have to >>modprobe the "ide-scsi" module to make it appear as a SCSI device. >>I won't swear to that, but since ES3 is based on the 2.4 kernel, the >>ide-scsi module is still used. ES4/FC2/FC3 on a 2.6 kernel don't use >>ide-scsi any longer. > > > Umm, perhaps you mean ide-tape is no longer used. You put me on to > ide-scsi, which works pretty well for my IDE tape drive. Actually ide-scsi isn't used by 2.6 to handle CDRs or DVD-Rs anymore. It's supposedly deprecated. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mihir.Sahu at ntlworld.com Sat Mar 12 18:48:24 2005 From: Mihir.Sahu at ntlworld.com (Mihir Sahu) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:48:24 -0000 Subject: Red Hat/Fedora on Sun Sparc In-Reply-To: <20050311002314.GA9920@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: Hi All, Will Fedora/Red Hat work on Sun Sparc Boxes. If not, is there any free linux that would work on SUN SPARC. Thanks Regards Mihir -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr Sent: 11 March 2005 00:23 To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: procmailrc question On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:02:00PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: procmailrc question > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > Ok.. good question here. > > > > > > If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an > > > invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support > .procmailrc > > > files for those users as procmail only appears to look at > > > $HOME/.procmailrc. > > > > Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not /etc/.procmailrc) > > and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be > > owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). > > > > I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? > > In short, I have a mess here. > > We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our sendmail > server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. But > our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled properly. > > The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if it's > just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. > > So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc > (otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. > > Hope that made some sense. Hmm. Well, sendmail determines each user's HOME directory from /etc/passwd. That (his HOME) is where the user's .procmailrc should reside. How does that relate to the two user worlds? Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From dlpeterson at cableone.net Sun Mar 13 00:00:29 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:00:29 -0700 Subject: Red Hat/Fedora on Sun Sparc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Go here "http://www.linux.org/dist/index.html" and look for sparc platform distributions. -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Mihir Sahu Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:48 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Red Hat/Fedora on Sun Sparc Hi All, Will Fedora/Red Hat work on Sun Sparc Boxes. 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Always report errors discovered while surfing the web. ------------------------------------------------------ My favorite saying (from general semantics): It's not that seeing is believing, believing is seeing, and we're much better at believing than we are at seeing. http://www.xenodochy.org/ex/quotes/santayana.html From zhaoh at cnic.cn Mon Mar 14 02:38:29 2005 From: zhaoh at cnic.cn (Tom) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:38:29 +0800 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 13 References: <20050312170030.A6BBA73C9A@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <007d01c5283e$e7cd6c10$9202e29f@cniculgpbq5czh> Examine your booting process and find which step consumes the longest time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suman C S" To: Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 13 > Hi, > > I installed Redhat Linux in my system. There is Windows XP also in the > system. CPU is 866 MHz P111 and RAM is 256 MB. > > The booting takes more than 10 minutes to complete. When i click a program > like Writer or Impress, it takes a lot of time to load. > > I have 600 MB Swap, 100 MB boot and more than 2 GB of Root. > > But if i boot into XP, it is very fast and have no problems. > > > Can anybody comment? > > Suman > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From jkinz at kinz.org Mon Mar 14 02:50:56 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:50:56 -0500 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: <007d01c5283e$e7cd6c10$9202e29f@cniculgpbq5czh>; from zhaoh@cnic.cn on Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:38:29AM +0800 References: <20050312170030.A6BBA73C9A@hormel.redhat.com> <007d01c5283e$e7cd6c10$9202e29f@cniculgpbq5czh> Message-ID: <20050313215056.A7756@redline.comcast.net> On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:38:29AM +0800, Tom wrote: > Examine your booting process and find which step consumes the longest time. Hi Tom, There is a patch for Outlook that fixes it so that you can automatically post to this email list in the traditional format: To fix outlook express: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ To fix Outlook: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ > > On: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:06 PM Suman wrote: > > I installed Redhat Linux in my system. There is Windows XP also in the > > system. CPU is 866 MHz P111 and RAM is 256 MB. > > > > The booting takes more than 10 minutes to complete. When i click a program > > like Writer or Impress, it takes a lot of time to load. > > > > I have 600 MB Swap, 100 MB boot and more than 2 GB of Root. > > > > But if i boot into XP, it is very fast and have no problems. Hi Suman, I have seen this happen when one of the services which is trying to start up can't get one of the "things" it needs to fully launch the service. One of the most notorious for this is .... "Sendmail" When Sendmail can't get a DNS lookup going or find the hostname it thinks its running on it will take a long time to quit trying and the entire rest of the system boot process has to wait until it gives up. It can be any process thats looking for something that isn't there. Watch the list of services being started up and you see it eventually "pause" for a long time, (Your ten minutes), on one of them. Thats likely the guilty party. -- "The only system which is truly secure, is one which is switched off and unplugged, locked in a titanium lined safe, buried in a concrete bunker, surrounded by nerve gas and very highly paid armed guards. Even then, I wouldn't stake my life on it" - Gene Spafford (Laptop w/good battery and a wireless card, w/wake on LAN....) http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From diogenes at xenodochy.org Mon Mar 14 05:51:57 2005 From: diogenes at xenodochy.org (Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr.) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:51:57 -0500 Subject: configure Redhat 9 for static LAN IP and DHCP dynamic IP dial-up modem In-Reply-To: <1110777592.42351ef8f14cc@webmail.sisiro.com> References: <1110777592.42351ef8f14cc@webmail.sisiro.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:19:52 -0500, wrote: > Hi, > > Check if the dns servers of your ISP are mentioned in > /etc/resolv.conf. That could be the problem. > > -S I've added them, but it did not help. -- Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. http://www.xenodochy.org/ralph.html 191 White Oaks Road Williamstown, MA 01267-2259 Phone: 413-458-3597 Home pages: http://www.xenodochy.org http://www.ballroomdances.org ------------------------------------------------------- FIGHT SPAM http://www.xenodochy.org/diogenes/antispam.html (If you are thinking about collecting my email address, read the above page first!) -------------------------------------------------------- Keep our semantic environments and cyberspace clean. Always report errors discovered while surfing the web. ------------------------------------------------------ My favorite saying (from general semantics): It's not that seeing is believing, believing is seeing, and we're much better at believing than we are at seeing. http://www.xenodochy.org/ex/quotes/santayana.html From akumar118 at rediffmail.com Mon Mar 14 11:47:09 2005 From: akumar118 at rediffmail.com (Arvind Kumar) Date: 14 Mar 2005 11:47:09 -0000 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 13 Message-ID: <20050314114709.14904.qmail@webmail17.rediffmail.com> ? What is the capacity of ur HD. On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 Suman C S wrote : >Hi, > >I installed Redhat Linux in my system. There is Windows XP also in the >system. CPU is 866 MHz P111 and RAM is 256 MB. > >The booting takes more than 10 minutes to complete. When i click a program >like Writer or Impress, it takes a lot of time to load. > >I have 600 MB Swap, 100 MB boot and more than 2 GB of Root. > >But if i boot into XP, it is very fast and have no problems. > > >Can anybody comment? > >Suman > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Mon Mar 14 18:10:05 2005 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:10:05 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer(Solved) In-Reply-To: <41585CDB.40405@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hello Rick On 27-Sep-04, you wrote: > Bruce McDonald wrote: >> Hello Rick >> >> On 23-Sep-04, you wrote: >> >> >> >>>> So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard >>>> would work with registered memory? >> >> >>> I'm not certain if it will or not. I'm not using registered memory in >>> mine and the system seems quite happy. I'd suggest trying non- >>> registered, name-brand RAM (Kingston, etc.) first. If you have >>> problems, THEN think about the registered stuff. Why spend money you >>> don't need to? Just make sure you can return the regular RAM if it >>> doesn't work. >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - >>> - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - >>> - - >>> - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> I figure that some of the problems I am having with my windows box (the >> current one) could be due to memory problems. I was thinking that maybe >> registered memory would alleviate those. Of course, it could be solved >> with XP. I don't think I would have worried about it if the machine was >> only going to run Linux. >> Maybe I will try it your suggested way and save some money. >> Thanks for the suggestion. > First things first, Bruce. Boot the first CD in the Fedora set and run > memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good. > By the way, the Opteron motherboard I have is the Asus K8V-SE, not the > A8V. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... - > - ...once. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry, this thread got forgotten in the Christmas rush and extended traveling. I wish to add the summation now and close the dangling thread. The motherboard and cpu are running fine with non-registered memory, so no problem there. Thank you all for your input on this, especially Rick (yep, saved some money on that). My largest problem ended up being a malfunctioning motherboard, which was replaced; and I ended up getting a 450W power supply to be sure I had enough power all around. I have downloaded Fedora Core 3 64 bit, and need to burn the cds yet. I am excited about trying it out, now I just need enough time to do it. Thank you all again. Regards, Bruce McDonald From winstephen at yahoo.com Mon Mar 14 18:57:53 2005 From: winstephen at yahoo.com (StephenW) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:57:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Building a new computer(Solved) In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050314185753.73308.qmail@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello Rick > > On 27-Sep-04, you wrote: > > > Bruce McDonald wrote: > >> Hello Rick > >> > >> On 23-Sep-04, you wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>> So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard > >>>> would work with registered memory? > >> > >> > >>> I'm not certain if it will or not. I'm not using registered memory in > >>> mine and the system seems quite happy. I'd suggest trying non- > >>> registered, name-brand RAM (Kingston, etc.) first. If you have > >>> problems, THEN think about the registered stuff. Why spend money you > >>> don't need to? Just make sure you can return the regular RAM if it > >>> doesn't work. > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > >>> - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > >>> - - > >>> - Fear is finding a ".vbs" script in your Inbox - > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >> I figure that some of the problems I am having with my windows box (the > >> current one) could be due to memory problems. I was thinking that maybe > >> registered memory would alleviate those. Of course, it could be solved > >> with XP. I don't think I would have worried about it if the machine was > >> only going to run Linux. > > >> Maybe I will try it your suggested way and save some money. > >> Thanks for the suggestion. > > > First things first, Bruce. Boot the first CD in the Fedora set and run > > memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good. > > > By the way, the Opteron motherboard I have is the Asus K8V-SE, not the > > A8V. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > > - - > > - grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... - > > - ...once. - > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Sorry, this thread got forgotten in the Christmas rush and extended > traveling. I wish to add the summation now and close the dangling thread. > > The motherboard and cpu are running fine with non-registered memory, so no > problem there. > Thank you all for your input on this, especially Rick (yep, saved some money > on that). > > My largest problem ended up being a malfunctioning motherboard, which was > replaced; and I ended up getting a 450W power supply to be sure I had > enough power all around. > > I have downloaded Fedora Core 3 64 bit, and need to burn the cds yet. I am > excited about trying it out, now I just need enough time to do it. > > Thank you all again. > > Regards, > Bruce McDonald > ************************** I solved my need (family's need) for a new Windows computer by going to a used and repair computer shop and buying used pieces. I bought: MSI K7T Turbo2 MoBo 1 Gig RAM New power supply (300w) A generic box 2 cooling fans AMD XP 1900 (Athlon) with a new heat sink and fan ATI video (don't have detail info on this) paid: $175 US Stephen W Sarasota, FL USA Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -Donald Knuth, computer scientist (1938- ) Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. -Charles Darwin, naturalist and author (1809-1882) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Mon Mar 14 19:12:15 2005 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:12:15 -0800 Subject: Redhat-install-list Digest, Vol 13, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Suman On 13-Mar-05, you wrote: > Hi, > I installed Redhat Linux in my system. There is Windows XP also in the > system. CPU is 866 MHz P111 and RAM is 256 MB. > The booting takes more than 10 minutes to complete. When i click a program > like Writer or Impress, it takes a lot of time to load. > I have 600 MB Swap, 100 MB boot and more than 2 GB of Root. > But if i boot into XP, it is very fast and have no problems. > Can anybody comment? > Suman It might help if we knew which version of Redhat you installed. Off the top of my head, I would suggest checking if you have any services running that you are not using and don't need. Move services equals more time booting, plus more memory and processor time used during general use. Go to System Settings > Server Settings > Services, this will let you see what services run at the different run levels. I would guess that your system is starting at runlevel 3, so check what services are started there. If you know you don't need it, uncheck it (it will not start at the next boot) and press the stop button (it will be stopped immediatly). Some things you can tell you don't need just by the description given, others you will have to Google to find out if you need them. I hope this helps you. Regards, Bruce McDonald From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 14 19:52:21 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:52:21 -0800 Subject: Red Hat/Fedora on Sun Sparc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4235EB75.8040706@vitalstream.com> Darin Peterson wrote: > Hi All, > Will Fedora/Red Hat work on Sun Sparc Boxes. If not, is there any free > linux that would work on SUN SPARC. Thanks > Regards > Mihir > Go here "http://www.linux.org/dist/index.html" and look for sparc platform > distributions. Bottom post, please. There are also "white box" versions of RHEL for other platforms that are essentially the source RPMs compiled for the alternate machines. A google search will reveal many of them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - God is real...........unless declared integer or long - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 14 19:54:56 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:54:56 -0800 Subject: configure Redhat 9 for static LAN IP and DHCP dynamic IP dial-up modem In-Reply-To: References: <1110777592.42351ef8f14cc@webmail.sisiro.com> Message-ID: <4235EC10.4040506@vitalstream.com> Ralph E. Kenyon, Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:19:52 -0500, wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Check if the dns servers of your ISP are mentioned in >> /etc/resolv.conf. That could be the problem. >> >> -S > > I've added them, but it did not help. You must also check your default route. When you bring up the PPP connection, your default route is probably still set to your LAN. You need to change it to point at your ISP's gateway. You can do that via a script or the following commands: route delete default gw (whatever your current gateway is) route add default gw (your IP's gateway address) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - God is real...........unless declared integer or long - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 14 20:01:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:01:15 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer(Solved) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4235ED8B.3020800@vitalstream.com> Bruce McDonald wrote: > Hello Rick > > On 27-Sep-04, you wrote: > > >>Bruce McDonald wrote: >> >>>Hello Rick >>> >>>On 23-Sep-04, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard >>>>>would work with registered memory? >>> >>> >>>>I'm not certain if it will or not. I'm not using registered memory in >>>>mine and the system seems quite happy. I'd suggest trying non- >>>>registered, name-brand RAM (Kingston, etc.) first. If you have >>>>problems, THEN think about the registered stuff. Why spend money you >>>>don't need to? Just make sure you can return the regular RAM if it >>>>doesn't work. > > >>>I figure that some of the problems I am having with my windows box (the >>>current one) could be due to memory problems. I was thinking that maybe >>>registered memory would alleviate those. Of course, it could be solved >>>with XP. I don't think I would have worried about it if the machine was >>>only going to run Linux. > > >>>Maybe I will try it your suggested way and save some money. >>>Thanks for the suggestion. > > >>First things first, Bruce. Boot the first CD in the Fedora set and run >>memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good. > > >>By the way, the Opteron motherboard I have is the Asus K8V-SE, not the >>A8V. > > > Sorry, this thread got forgotten in the Christmas rush and extended > traveling. I wish to add the summation now and close the dangling thread. Yeah, we were wondering if you fell off the planet or something. :-) > > The motherboard and cpu are running fine with non-registered memory, so no > problem there. > Thank you all for your input on this, especially Rick (yep, saved some money > on that). Glad to hear that. > My largest problem ended up being a malfunctioning motherboard, which was > replaced; and I ended up getting a 450W power supply to be sure I had > enough power all around. Good deal. As Tim Allen would say, "More POWER! Ar! Ar!". > I have downloaded Fedora Core 3 64 bit, and need to burn the cds yet. I am > excited about trying it out, now I just need enough time to do it. It's quite cool, Bruce. However, one word of warning: Many companies (most notably MacroMedia--you know, Flash) don't have 64-bit plugins for the browser yet. You may want to install the 32-bit Mozilla/Firefox/- Thunderbird stuff so you can use the available plugins. > Thank you all again. "That's what we're here for!" (c)2005 Red Hat Install List :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com Mon Mar 14 22:26:55 2005 From: redhat-install-list at hyperbole-software.com (Carl Reynolds) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:26:55 -0500 Subject: RHEL up2date issue In-Reply-To: <20050301171749.GA21009@helium.inexs.com> References: <000001c51e79$cc28a8e0$c701a8c0@pccat03> <4224A14F.40206@vitalstream.com> <20050301171749.GA21009@helium.inexs.com> Message-ID: <42360FAF.60103@hyperbole-software.com> Chuck Campbell wrote: >I've just taken delivery of two dual AMD 64 bit boxes to build a small cluster >from. > >I installed and entitled each of them with RHEL 3 update 2. > >When I click on the up2date button, there were LOTS of things to update, which >took some time. > >Unfortunately, with both boxes, I cannot update the following: > >bind* >net-snmp* >rmp* > >all insist that they have dependency problems and require certain libraries. > >all of the required libraries are present in /usr/lib64 > >What am I doing wrong? > >thanks, >-chuck > > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-install-list mailing list >Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >Subject: unsubscribe > > > > > I just ran into a similar problem. I don't know if it's the same as yours because you don't state specifically what packages up2date thinks the above packages needed. However, since you're building a 64-bit box, up2date may be trying to install x86_64, i686, or i386 versions of the packages. I found that up2date would tell me that a package wasn't available and when I would do rpm -q It would list the package as installed, however, if I gave the complete package name with the architecture appended to the end it would go and install the same package for the different architecture and then the other packages would install. It might be useful for you to include a copy of the output from up2date so we can see what problem you are having. Carl. From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Mar 14 18:21:55 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:21:55 -0800 Subject: Help - Java for FC2 and Mozilla Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05031410213189a0f0@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On my Gentoo laptop I have no problems running Java within Firefox and viewing some investment sites I need to use that have Java stuff embedded in their pages. Under FC2 I have no similar success. Can anyone point me toward some RPMs and installation instructions that will actually work on this platform? Thanks, Mark From ajay197947 at rediffmail.com Tue Mar 15 12:10:49 2005 From: ajay197947 at rediffmail.com (ajay chaudhary) Date: 15 Mar 2005 12:10:49 -0000 Subject: Building a new computer(Solved) Message-ID: <20050315121049.9228.qmail@webmail29.rediffmail.com> ? pls. tell me how can i assign root priviliges to an exsisting user or create new user with all root priviliges. i an using rh9.0 regards ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ajay197947 at rediffmail.com Tue Mar 15 12:14:59 2005 From: ajay197947 at rediffmail.com (ajay chaudhary) Date: 15 Mar 2005 12:14:59 -0000 Subject: root priviliges Message-ID: <20050315121459.6088.qmail@webmail28.rediffmail.com> ?pls. tell me how can i assign root priviliges to an exsisting user or create new user with all root priviliges. i an using rh9.0 regards ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Mar 15 18:55:54 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:55:54 -0600 Subject: Building a new computer(Solved) In-Reply-To: <20050315121049.9228.qmail@webmail29.rediffmail.com> References: <20050315121049.9228.qmail@webmail29.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <20050315185554.GB17254@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Please don't hijack threads by replying to a posting with completely unrelated material, even if it's your own. It screws up all kinds of things. Start a new message. Also, please make your emailer wrap lines every 72 chars or so. I'll reformat this. On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 12:10:49PM -0000, ajay chaudhary wrote: > ? > pls. tell me how can i assign root priviliges to an exsisting user > or create new user with all root priviliges. i an using rh9.0 Creating a new user with root's uid (0) is generally regarded as a Bad Idea. What you want is "sudo". "man sudo", "man sudoers", and "man visudo" are your friends. > regards > > ajay Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 15 19:43:46 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:43:46 -0800 Subject: Help - Java for FC2 and Mozilla In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05031410213189a0f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05031410213189a0f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42373AF2.2040800@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > On my Gentoo laptop I have no problems running Java within Firefox > and viewing some investment sites I need to use that have Java stuff > embedded in their pages. Under FC2 I have no similar success. Can > anyone point me toward some RPMs and installation instructions that > will actually work on this platform? I've used the standard Sun java stuff (http://www.java.com) and had no problems on FC2 or FC3--even FC3 on an Opteron. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The light at the end of the tunnel is really an oncoming train. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Tue Mar 15 20:08:55 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:08:55 -0600 Subject: Sendmail configuration on RH 9 In-Reply-To: <20050315122229.31191.qmail@webmail29.rediffmail.com> References: <20050315122229.31191.qmail@webmail29.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <20050315200855.GC17254@bobcat.bobcatos.com> It's also considered good form to add a subject line. I'll add one. On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 12:22:29PM -0000, ajay chaudhary wrote: > ? > tell me sendmail configuration step by step You have several choices: 1. Make sure the sendmail-cf RPM is installed and then read /usr/share/sendmail-cf/README. 2. Buy the O'Reilly book on Sendmail (the "Bat book", for the animal on the cover) and read it "kivver to kivver". 3. Convert to Postfix. RH even gives you a pretty easy conversion path. I did all three, in that order. I take that back. I gave up on 2. > and which gui utility is used to configure it, RH doesn't provide one. Webmin http://www.webmin.com/ might be a candidate, but you'll need to install it. > how to start It may already be running. Check with service sendmail status If it's not running, start it with service sendmail start and assure it will start automatically at the next boot with chkconfig sendmail on See also The Fine Manuals: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ > and where it stores necessary .conf files /etc/mail > and what does they do. Can't help you there. > i there any good short tute about sendmail. Google is your friend. Try Googling for "sendmail configuration tutorial". > regards > > ajay Also note that RH 9 has been end-of-lifed and is no longer supported. You really should upgrade to one of the Fedora Core distros. FC 3 is the most recent. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From brucemcdonal at mindspring.com Wed Mar 16 07:16:03 2005 From: brucemcdonal at mindspring.com (Bruce McDonald) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:16:03 -0800 Subject: Building a new computer(Solved) In-Reply-To: <4235ED8B.3020800@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: Hello Rick On 14-Mar-05, you wrote: > Bruce McDonald wrote: >> Hello Rick >> >> On 27-Sep-04, you wrote: >> >> >>> Bruce McDonald wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Rick >>>> >>>> On 23-Sep-04, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> So, I ask any Hardware people here. Do you believe the motherboard >>>>>> would work with registered memory? >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm not certain if it will or not. I'm not using registered memory in >>>>> mine and the system seems quite happy. I'd suggest trying non- >>>>> registered, name-brand RAM (Kingston, etc.) first. If you have >>>>> problems, THEN think about the registered stuff. Why spend money you >>>>> don't need to? Just make sure you can return the regular RAM if it >>>>> doesn't work. >> >> >>>> I figure that some of the problems I am having with my windows box (the >>>> current one) could be due to memory problems. I was thinking that maybe >>>> registered memory would alleviate those. Of course, it could be solved >>>> with XP. I don't think I would have worried about it if the machine was >>>> only going to run Linux. >> >> >>>> Maybe I will try it your suggested way and save some money. >>>> Thanks for the suggestion. >> >> >>> First things first, Bruce. Boot the first CD in the Fedora set and run >>> memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good. >> >> >>> By the way, the Opteron motherboard I have is the Asus K8V-SE, not the >>> A8V. >> Sorry, this thread got forgotten in the Christmas rush and extended >> traveling. I wish to add the summation now and close the dangling thread. > Yeah, we were wondering if you fell off the planet or something. :-) Sort of.... I fell into the Discworld novels of Terry Pratchett. Between them, work, configuring this new machine, and setting the old one up for my wife; I sort of got behind in e-mail. >> The motherboard and cpu are running fine with non-registered memory, so >> no problem there. >> Thank you all for your input on this, especially Rick (yep, saved some >> money on that). > Glad to hear that. >> My largest problem ended up being a malfunctioning motherboard, which was >> replaced; and I ended up getting a 450W power supply to be sure I had >> enough power all around. > Good deal. As Tim Allen would say, "More POWER! Ar! Ar!". >> I have downloaded Fedora Core 3 64 bit, and need to burn the cds yet. I >> am excited about trying it out, now I just need enough time to do it. > It's quite cool, Bruce. However, one word of warning: Many companies > (most notably MacroMedia--you know, Flash) don't have 64-bit plugins for > the browser yet. You may want to install the 32-bit Mozilla/Firefox/- > Thunderbird stuff so you can use the available plugins. >> Thank you all again. > "That's what we're here for!" (c)2005 Red Hat Install List > :-) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Bruce McDonald From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Mar 16 16:50:25 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:50:25 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question Message-ID: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3ABCF@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:23 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: procmailrc question > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:02:00PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM > > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > Subject: Re: procmailrc question > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > > Ok.. good question here. > > > > > > > > If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have an > > > > invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support > > .procmailrc > > > > files for those users as procmail only appears to look at > > > > $HOME/.procmailrc. > > > > > > Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not /etc/.procmailrc) > > > and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be > > > owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). > > > > > > I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? > > > > In short, I have a mess here. > > > > We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our sendmail > > server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. But > > our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled properly. > > > > The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if it's > > just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. > > > > So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc > > (otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. > > > > Hope that made some sense. > > Hmm. Well, sendmail determines each user's HOME directory from > /etc/passwd. That (his HOME) is where the user's .procmailrc should > reside. How does that relate to the two user worlds? On an HP, their home directory would be /acct. On a linux box their home directory would be /acct On an SGI their home directory would be /acct The problem is, none of those are the same files system. :( From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 16 17:30:37 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:30:37 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3ABCF@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <1A2959DFF019034BBA2F06532A8DFEDB05B3ABCF@xch-nw-01.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <42386D3D.60709@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] >>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:23 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: procmailrc question >> >>On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:02:00PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] >>>>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM >>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>Subject: Re: procmailrc question >>>> >>>>On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>>> >>>>>Ok.. good question here. >>>>> >>>>>If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have > > an > >>>>>invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support >>> >>>.procmailrc >>> >>>>>files for those users as procmail only appears to look at >>>>>$HOME/.procmailrc. >>>> >>>>Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not > > /etc/.procmailrc) > >>>>and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be >>>>owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). >>>> >>>>I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? >>> >>>In short, I have a mess here. >>> >>>We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our > > sendmail > >>>server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. > > But > >>>our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled > > properly. > >>>The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if > > it's > >>>just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. >>> >>>So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc >>>(otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. >>> >>>Hope that made some sense. >> >>Hmm. Well, sendmail determines each user's HOME directory from >>/etc/passwd. That (his HOME) is where the user's .procmailrc should >>reside. How does that relate to the two user worlds? > > > On an HP, their home directory would be /acct. > > On a linux box their home directory would be /acct > > On an SGI their home directory would be /acct > > The problem is, none of those are the same files system. :( Did you ever see my responses? I repeat: You can set up the "ForwardPath" option in the sendmail.cf file to give a list of directories to search for the .forward file. For example, this line: O ForwardPath=/usr/local/etc/forwards/$u.forward:$z/.forward If the incoming mail was for user "fred", that line would cause the system to first look for a "/usr/local/etc/forwards/fred.forward" file If found, it is used. If not, it tries to find a ".forward" file in fred's home directory. The system defaults to: O ForwardPath=$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward "$z" is filled in with the user's home directory after sendmail does a getpwent()-style call, "$w" is filled in with the host name of the machine running sendmail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl Thu Mar 17 01:51:11 2005 From: cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl (Maria Cristina del Solar) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:51:11 -0400 (CLT) Subject: I have a problem with umount (fwd) Message-ID: Hi, When I shutdown the machine, it appears the following message: Unmounting file systems: umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /var: device is busy Unmounting file systems (retry): umount2: Device or resource busy umount: /var: device is busy before to run shutdown, I execute: fuser -vm /var later I do stop to all the related services /etc/init.d/httpd stop /etc/init.d/syslog stop /etc/init.d/audit stop /etc/init.d/crond stop /etc/init.d/atd stop /etc/init.d/gpm stop /etc/init.d/nfslock stop /etc/init.d/xinetd stop /usr/local/sbin/postfix stop then run reboot, but the problem persist Important: I have Red Hat Linux AS 3.0 update 4 Best Regards Thanks in advanced From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 17 02:24:48 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:24:48 -0800 Subject: I have a problem with umount (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4238EA70.8060700@vitalstream.com> Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > Hi, > > When I shutdown the machine, it appears the following message: > > Unmounting file systems: umount2: Device or resource busy > umount: /var: device is busy > > Unmounting file systems (retry): umount2: Device or resource busy > umount: /var: device is busy That's not uncommon. The system should still shut down properly. The problem is that syslog (or dmesg) is probably still logging to the /var/log/messages file. > before to run shutdown, I execute: > > fuser -vm /var That shouldn't be necessary > later I do stop to all the related services > > /etc/init.d/httpd stop > /etc/init.d/syslog stop > /etc/init.d/audit stop > /etc/init.d/crond stop > /etc/init.d/atd stop > /etc/init.d/gpm stop > /etc/init.d/nfslock stop > /etc/init.d/xinetd stop > /usr/local/sbin/postfix stop None of that should be necessary either as those are normally stopped by the telinit program during shutdown. Do this command: grep id: /etc/inittab You should get something back like "id:3:initdefault:". The number between the first two ":"s is your run level. You should make sure there are Kxx-whatever files in your /etc/rc.d/rcX.d directory (where X is your run level). Those should be executed by telinit when it changes from your current run level to run level 0 (halt) or 6 (reboot). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Batteries not included. Offer not valid in some states. - - Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl Thu Mar 17 02:56:12 2005 From: cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl (Maria Cristina del Solar) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:56:12 -0400 (CLT) Subject: I have a problem with umount (fwd) In-Reply-To: <4238EA70.8060700@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: (...) > None of that should be necessary either as those are normally stopped > by the telinit program during shutdown. Do this command: > > grep id: /etc/inittab > > You should get something back like "id:3:initdefault:". The number > between the first two ":"s is your run level. You should make sure > there are Kxx-whatever files in your /etc/rc.d/rcX.d directory (where X > is your run level). Those should be executed by telinit when it changes > from your current run level to run level 0 (halt) or 6 (reboot). The machine starts in run level 3, of that I'm safe. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Batteries not included. Offer not valid in some states. - > - Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From ajay197947 at rediffmail.com Thu Mar 17 11:52:40 2005 From: ajay197947 at rediffmail.com (ajay chaudhary) Date: 17 Mar 2005 11:52:40 -0000 Subject: root priviliges Message-ID: <20050317115240.20899.qmail@webmail49.rediffmail.com> ? sorry thanks i will not do it again and this sudo really solved my problem regards ajay On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 Bob McClure Jr wrote : >Please don't hijack threads by replying to a posting with completely >unrelated material, even if it's your own. It screws up all kinds of >things. Start a new message. > >Also, please make your emailer wrap lines every 72 chars or so. I'll >reformat this. > >On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 12:10:49PM -0000, ajay chaudhary wrote: > > > > pls. tell me how can i assign root priviliges to an exsisting user > > or create new user with all root priviliges. i an using rh9.0 > >Creating a new user with root's uid (0) is generally regarded as a Bad >Idea. What you want is "sudo". 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Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 ________________________________ From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of ajay chaudhary Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:59 AM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download sir can you tell me: we have a ftp server ftp://trivimtech.com on which our client put files for our work (50-200mb) and we have to fetch them frequently i want it to do with wget and want to schedule it for 1hr , it automatically will go on ftp server , check what is left to download and if any new file it download it. my folder on ftp:/trivimtech.com is "from macmilan" and after finishing file work in our lab as we put it on our linx server (rh9.0) in "finished" it gets uploaded by itself in "to macmilan" folder on our ftp server. is there any ready software for this purpose. and how should i use cron for this purpose. where i put it in crontab? regards ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robertmcclure at earthlink.net Thu Mar 17 14:40:34 2005 From: robertmcclure at earthlink.net (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:40:34 -0600 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <000101c52af4$aabd59d0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> References: <000101c52af4$aabd59d0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> Message-ID: <20050317144034.GA3246@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 07:24:36AM -0600, Barry S Densch wrote: > It seems my old Belkin Omni Cube 4-Port KVM switch causes Fedora Core 3 to > freak out. > > After installing Core 3, I switched to another box. When I switched back to > Fedora the mouse went wacky and now all of my desktop settings are > completely messed-up. > > Q: Can I fix this issue? I think so. Can you afford a better KVM than the Belkin? I've not been very impressed with their products. > Q2: How do I restore the default Fedora core 3 desktop settings for gnome? Caveat Linuxor: This is untried and uncertain: I think you can (1) log out, (2) either log in as root or Ctrl-Alt-F1 to a text terminal and log in as yourself, or bring up a "safe" session or KDE, if you have it. Now this next step is uncertain to me. There are several .gnome* directories in your $HOME, to wit: .gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private .gnome-desktop .gnome-help-browser .gnome_private I'm reluctant to tell you to blow them all away, because you might lose some stuff you want to keep, though if desperate, you could. Or you could start with .gnome and/or .gnome2. The .gnome*_private directories have only passwords and such, so I doubt it'd be worthwhile to delete those. Sorry. I'm not a GNOME expert. I use AfterStep or IceWM. > I am using an early version Logitech cordless IR mouse. It appears to work > just fine until I use the KVM. > > Thanks, > -Barry Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. robertmcclure at earthlink.net http://www.bobcatos.com Worry is a waste of the imagination. From wralphie at comcast.net Thu Mar 17 16:55:18 2005 From: wralphie at comcast.net (jludwig) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:55:18 -0500 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <20050317144034.GA3246@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <000101c52af4$aabd59d0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> <20050317144034.GA3246@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <200503171155.18947.wralphie@comcast.net> On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:40 am, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 07:24:36AM -0600, Barry S Densch wrote: > > It seems my old Belkin Omni Cube 4-Port KVM switch causes Fedora Core 3 > > to freak out. > > > > After installing Core 3, I switched to another box. When I switched back > > to Fedora the mouse went wacky and now all of my desktop settings are > > completely messed-up. > > > > Q: Can I fix this issue? > > I think so. Can you afford a better KVM than the Belkin? I've not > been very impressed with their products. > > > Q2: How do I restore the default Fedora core 3 desktop settings for > > gnome? > > Caveat Linuxor: This is untried and uncertain: > > I think you can (1) log out, (2) either log in as root or Ctrl-Alt-F1 > to a text terminal and log in as yourself, or bring up a "safe" > session or KDE, if you have it. Now this next step is uncertain to > me. There are several .gnome* directories in your $HOME, to wit: > > .gnome > .gnome2 > .gnome2_private > .gnome-desktop > .gnome-help-browser > .gnome_private > > I'm reluctant to tell you to blow them all away, because you might > lose some stuff you want to keep, though if desperate, you could. Or > you could start with .gnome and/or .gnome2. The .gnome*_private > directories have only passwords and such, so I doubt it'd be > worthwhile to delete those. > > Sorry. I'm not a GNOME expert. I use AfterStep or IceWM. > > > I am using an early version Logitech cordless IR mouse. It appears to > > work just fine until I use the KVM. > > > > Thanks, > > -Barry > > Cheers, If you haven't logged out "cntl alr bkspace" will restart X and you will 'loose all your new settings'. -- John H Ludwig From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 17 17:13:21 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:13:21 -0800 Subject: I have a problem with umount (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4239BAB1.809@vitalstream.com> Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > (...) > >>None of that should be necessary either as those are normally stopped >>by the telinit program during shutdown. Do this command: >> >> grep id: /etc/inittab >> >>You should get something back like "id:3:initdefault:". The number >>between the first two ":"s is your run level. You should make sure >>there are Kxx-whatever files in your /etc/rc.d/rcX.d directory (where X >>is your run level). Those should be executed by telinit when it changes >>from your current run level to run level 0 (halt) or 6 (reboot). > > > The machine starts in run level 3, of that I'm safe. Ok, then verify that you have "Kxx-processname" files in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d. Note that the system will use those scripts in ASCII sort order, e.g. K00 will be run before K01, K10 will be run before K11, etc. That should shut down most of your running processes--note that syslogd is NOT shut down via that process and that's most likely where the "/var busy" message comes from When that's all done, the system essentially does a "kill -9" for all other user processes. That will definitely kill syslogd. Regardless, your system should shut down (or reboot) cleanly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The problem with being poor is that it takes up all of your time - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 17 17:15:13 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:15:13 -0800 Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download In-Reply-To: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BCBF45D3@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> References: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BCBF45D3@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Message-ID: <4239BB21.5020607@vitalstream.com> Smith, Albert wrote: > You can try and use wget -mirror and the location location of the ftp > server and the files. This will do a complete transfer of everything in > the path specified. And do it every hour you can write a script to do > the transfer and dump it /etc/cron.hourly Also have a look at ncftpget (comes with the systems). It is an FTP client specifically written for use with scripts (and hence, cronjobs). By the way, Albert, we prefer bottom posting here on the list. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] *On Behalf Of *ajay > chaudhary > *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:59 AM > *To:* redhat-install-list at redhat.com > *Subject:* cron to check ftp upload/download > > sir can you tell me: > > we have a ftp server ftp://trivimtech.com on which our client put > files for our work (50-200mb) and we have to fetch them frequently > > i want it to do with wget and want to schedule it for 1hr , it > automatically will go on ftp server , check what is left to download > and if any new file it download it. > > my folder on ftp:/trivimtech.com is "from macmilan" > > and after finishing file work in our lab as we put it on our linx > server (rh9.0) in "finished" it gets uploaded by itself in "to > macmilan" folder on our ftp server. > > is there any ready software for this purpose. and how should i use > cron for this purpose. where i put it in crontab? > > regards > > ajay > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 17 17:22:00 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:22:00 -0800 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <000101c52af4$aabd59d0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> References: <000101c52af4$aabd59d0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> Message-ID: <4239BCB8.60401@vitalstream.com> Barry S Densch wrote: > It seems my old Belkin Omni Cube 4-Port KVM switch causes Fedora Core 3 > to freak out. > > After installing Core 3, I switched to another box. When I switched back > to Fedora the mouse went wacky and now all of my desktop settings are > completely messed-up. The Belkin KVMs are notorious for this problem, as they do not emulate the mouse and keyboard well. Fedora is very sensitive to this (as are later Windows versions). > Q: Can I fix this issue? Use a different KVM. Actually, I won't use ANY Belkin product. Their quality is not good, they're poorly engineered and after that little thing they did on their router that would periodically hijack your connection and force your browser to go to an advertising site, I wouldn't trust the SOBs as far as I could throw their corporate headquarters building. I use Linksys or IOGear KVMs almost exclusively. > Q2: How do I restore the default Fedora core 3 desktop settings for gnome? Just log out and log back in (or hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to restart X). > I am using an early version Logitech cordless IR mouse. It appears to > work just fine until I use the KVM. As soon as you switch ports on the KVM, the mouse heartbeats are lost and things get squirelly. As I said, chuck that POS Belkin and get a Linksys or IOGear KVM. Trust me, you'll be glad you did. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 17:29:53 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:29:53 -0800 Subject: Help - Java for FC2 and Mozilla In-Reply-To: <42373AF2.2040800@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05031410213189a0f0@mail.gmail.com> <42373AF2.2040800@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05031709297705bd72@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:43:46 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > > On my Gentoo laptop I have no problems running Java within Firefox > > and viewing some investment sites I need to use that have Java stuff > > embedded in their pages. Under FC2 I have no similar success. Can > > anyone point me toward some RPMs and installation instructions that > > will actually work on this platform? > > I've used the standard Sun java stuff (http://www.java.com) and had no > problems on FC2 or FC3--even FC3 on an Opteron. Rick, Thanks. I've downloaded the bin file. I'm a little troubled by the installation instructions: 3) Change to the directory in which you want to install. Type: cd For example, to install the software in the /usr/java/ directory, Type: cd /usr/java/ QUESTION: Where is the standard place to install this software? It seems to me that I should not just invent /usr/java as it won't be in my path. Where did you put it? Thanks, Mark From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 17:40:15 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:40:15 -0800 Subject: Help - Java for FC2 and Mozilla In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05031709297705bd72@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05031410213189a0f0@mail.gmail.com> <42373AF2.2040800@vitalstream.com> <5bdc1c8b05031709297705bd72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05031709406d525ca4@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:29:53 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:43:46 -0800, Rick Stevens > wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > Hi, > > > On my Gentoo laptop I have no problems running Java within Firefox > > > and viewing some investment sites I need to use that have Java stuff > > > embedded in their pages. Under FC2 I have no similar success. Can > > > anyone point me toward some RPMs and installation instructions that > > > will actually work on this platform? > > > > I've used the standard Sun java stuff (http://www.java.com) and had no > > problems on FC2 or FC3--even FC3 on an Opteron. > > Rick, > Thanks. I've downloaded the bin file. I'm a little troubled by the > installation instructions: > > 3) Change to the directory in which you want to install. Type: > cd > For example, to install the software in the /usr/java/ directory, Type: > cd /usr/java/ > > QUESTION: Where is the standard place to install this software? It > seems to me that I should not just invent /usr/java as it won't be in > my path. Where did you put it? > > Thanks, > Mark > Rick, I see now that except for possibly backup issues it really doesn't matter where I put it. The configuration step sets the path to the Java executable and it works. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. (SO MANY TIMES!!) Cheers, Mark From baz at mm.com Thu Mar 17 18:00:58 2005 From: baz at mm.com (Barry S Densch) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:00:58 -0600 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <4239BCB8.60401@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> Thanks Rick. I'll look into a better quality KVM. Regarding gnome, the mouse really screwed things up to the point of no return. I had to remove most of the items from the desktop. Q3: Any idea on how I can restore the original configuration file for the default Fedora core 3 desktop? Then I'll have all the widgets in front of me again so I can start learning more about Linux. It's a little different than working mostly command line Solaris and AIX, for sure ;-) Now I have to know where the config files for the GUI are kept and how to manipulate them. Appreciate your time. Thanks, -Barry -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:22 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: KVM question Barry S Densch wrote: > It seems my old Belkin Omni Cube 4-Port KVM switch causes Fedora Core > 3 > to freak out. > > After installing Core 3, I switched to another box. When I switched > back > to Fedora the mouse went wacky and now all of my desktop settings are > completely messed-up. The Belkin KVMs are notorious for this problem, as they do not emulate the mouse and keyboard well. Fedora is very sensitive to this (as are later Windows versions). > Q: Can I fix this issue? Use a different KVM. Actually, I won't use ANY Belkin product. Their quality is not good, they're poorly engineered and after that little thing they did on their router that would periodically hijack your connection and force your browser to go to an advertising site, I wouldn't trust the SOBs as far as I could throw their corporate headquarters building. I use Linksys or IOGear KVMs almost exclusively. > Q2: How do I restore the default Fedora core 3 desktop settings for > gnome? Just log out and log back in (or hit CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to restart X). > I am using an early version Logitech cordless IR mouse. It appears to > work just fine until I use the KVM. As soon as you switch ports on the KVM, the mouse heartbeats are lost and things get squirelly. As I said, chuck that POS Belkin and get a Linksys or IOGear KVM. Trust me, you'll be glad you did. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Life: That which happens while you search for the remote control. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From markknecht at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 18:31:14 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:31:14 -0800 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> References: <4239BCB8.60401@vitalstream.com> <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05031710314ea33386@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:00:58 -0600, Barry S Densch wrote: > Thanks Rick. I'll look into a better quality KVM. I use an inexpensive LinkSys 2-port. One of the nice features it has is the ability to switch between PCs with hot keys from the keyboard. (Ctrl-Ctrl fast) Unfortunately their 4-port either did not offer this feature or it didn't work. Anyway, I like the LinkSys for small setups like mine at home. It works well with both Linux and Windows boxes. Cheers, Mark P.S. - Please try to bottom post here. Eventually people who top post tend to get ignored. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 17 18:41:58 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:41:58 -0800 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> References: <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> Message-ID: <4239CF76.3040702@vitalstream.com> Barry S Densch wrote: > Thanks Rick. I'll look into a better quality KVM. > > Regarding gnome, the mouse really screwed things up to the point of no > return. I had to remove most of the items from the desktop. Ewww! > Q3: Any idea on how I can restore the original configuration file for the > default Fedora core 3 desktop? Then I'll have all the widgets in front of me > again so I can start learning more about Linux. Well, I'd log out as the normal user and log in as root. Then try going to your (not root's) home directory and delete the ".gnome/session" file: rm -f ~username/.gnome/session Then log out as root and log back in as yourself. > It's a little different than working mostly command line Solaris and AIX, > for sure ;-) Now I have to know where the config files for the GUI are kept > and how to manipulate them. Most of the stuff is in ~username/.gnome, but it's not the easiest thing to manipulate. Gnome (and KDE for that matter) are fairly complex beasts, driven by lots of XML code in /usr/share/gnome-2.0. It can be scary! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - When all else fails, try reading the instructions. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 17 18:43:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:43:27 -0800 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05031710314ea33386@mail.gmail.com> References: <4239BCB8.60401@vitalstream.com> <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> <5bdc1c8b05031710314ea33386@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4239CFCF.2050301@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:00:58 -0600, Barry S Densch wrote: > >>Thanks Rick. I'll look into a better quality KVM. > > > I use an inexpensive LinkSys 2-port. One of the nice features it has > is the ability to switch between PCs with hot keys from the keyboard. > (Ctrl-Ctrl fast) Unfortunately their 4-port either did not offer this > feature or it didn't work. IIRC, "CTRL-CTRL" followed by F1 through F4 triggered the Linksys. > Anyway, I like the LinkSys for small setups like mine at home. It > works well with both Linux and Windows boxes. [snip] > P.S. - Please try to bottom post here. Eventually people who top post > tend to get ignored. Yes, do that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Do you suffer from long-term memory loss?" "I don't remember" - - -- Chumbawumba, "Amnesia" (TubThumping) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajay197947 at rediffmail.com Fri Mar 18 12:01:42 2005 From: ajay197947 at rediffmail.com (ajay chaudhary) Date: 18 Mar 2005 12:01:42 -0000 Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download Message-ID: <20050318120142.24237.qmail@webmail46.rediffmail.com> ? can u tell me a little sort of script line that i will put in. wget ftp://tivimtech.com/*.* .......rest i do not know how will i specify user name and password ? and will *.* download all file of ftp server in any folder? rgds ajay On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 Smith,Albert wrote : >You can try and use wget -mirror and the location location of the ftp >server and the files. This will do a complete transfer of everything in >the path specified. And do it every hour you can write a script to do >the transfer and dump it /etc/cron.hourly > > > >Albert Smith >Sr. Unix Systems Administrator >HPCSA, RHCT >Genex Services >440 E. Swedesford Rd. >Wayne, PA 19087 >albert.smith at genexservices.com >(610) 964-5154 > > > >________________________________ > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of ajay >chaudhary > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:59 AM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download > > > > sir can you tell me: > > we have a ftp server ftp://trivimtech.com on which our client >put files for our work (50-200mb) and we have to fetch them frequently > > i want it to do with wget and want to schedule it for 1hr , it >automatically will go on ftp server , check what is left to download and >if any new file it download it. > > my folder on ftp:/trivimtech.com is "from macmilan" > > and after finishing file work in our lab as we put it on our >linx server (rh9.0) in "finished" it gets uploaded by itself in "to >macmilan" folder on our ftp server. > > is there any ready software for this purpose. and how should i >use cron for this purpose. where i put it in crontab? > > regards > > ajay > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Swedesford Rd. >Wayne, PA 19087 >albert.smith at genexservices.com >(610) 964-5154 > > > >________________________________ > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of ajay >chaudhary > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:59 AM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download > > > > sir can you tell me: > > we have a ftp server ftp://trivimtech.com on which our client >put files for our work (50-200mb) and we have to fetch them frequently > > i want it to do with wget and want to schedule it for 1hr , it >automatically will go on ftp server , check what is left to download and >if any new file it download it. > > my folder on ftp:/trivimtech.com is "from macmilan" > > and after finishing file work in our lab as we put it on our >linx server (rh9.0) in "finished" it gets uploaded by itself in "to >macmilan" folder on our ftp server. > > is there any ready software for this purpose. and how should i >use cron for this purpose. where i put it in crontab? > > regards > > ajay > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baz at mm.com Fri Mar 18 13:50:33 2005 From: baz at mm.com (Barry S Densch) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:50:33 -0600 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <4239CFCF.2050301@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <001301c52bc1$79329dd0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> [snip] > P.S. - Please try to bottom post here. Eventually people who top post > tend to get ignored. Yes, do that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "Do you suffer from long-term memory loss?" "I don't remember" - - -- Chumbawumba, "Amnesia" (TubThumping) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks guys. I'm the NUG... new useless guy ;-) -Barry _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Fri Mar 18 16:03:46 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:03:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [OT?] FIPS.exe Question Message-ID: <33006.207.173.117.242.1111161826.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> I've used FIPS.EXE in the past to create a second partition from an existing partition for a dual boot PC, however I am now in need of enlarging a partition and removing the second one for retiring a dual boot to be just a windows pc for an old 16-bit app that isn't available for Linux. So, is there software for Windows similar to FIPS that would allow me to do this? As an aside, I would use this command for AIX: # chfs -a size='6930442' /u1 Is there a similar command in Linux? -- Karl Pearson karlp at ourldsfamily.com http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com http://emailgroups.ourldsfamily.com If you don't think the dead come back to life, Be here at quitting time -- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml -- A right is not what someone gives you; it's what no one can take from you. -- Ramsey Clark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Mar 18 17:31:48 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:31:48 -0800 Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <001301c52bc1$79329dd0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> References: <001301c52bc1$79329dd0$0500a8c0@MARTIN> Message-ID: <423B1084.7020407@vitalstream.com> Barry S Densch wrote: > [snip] > > >>>P.S. - Please try to bottom post here. Eventually people who top post >>>tend to get ignored. >> >> Yes, do that. > > Thanks guys. I'm the NUG... new useless guy ;-) Heheheh! Well, at my place we'd call you "TD" ("target drone") or "EAB" ("electric arcade bear"). Yeah, we're cruel! (sinister laugh!) :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Mar 18 17:37:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:37:47 -0800 Subject: [OT?] FIPS.exe Question In-Reply-To: <33006.207.173.117.242.1111161826.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <33006.207.173.117.242.1111161826.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <423B11EB.8090304@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > I've used FIPS.EXE in the past to create a second partition from an > existing partition for a dual boot PC, however I am now in need of > enlarging a partition and removing the second one for retiring a dual boot > to be just a windows pc for an old 16-bit app that isn't available for > Linux. So, is there software for Windows similar to FIPS that would allow > me to do this? Wouldn't the disk manager in W2K/XP do the job? I won't swear to it, as I try to stay away from that sort of thing in the Winblows world. > As an aside, I would use this command for AIX: > # chfs -a size='6930442' /u1 > Is there a similar command in Linux? For ext2/ext3, sure..."resize2fs". You need to grow the partition first, using parted or some such, then you can "resize2fs /dev/hdxp". See "man resize2fs" for details. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From dlpeterson at cableone.net Fri Mar 18 17:42:29 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:42:29 -0700 Subject: [OT?] FIPS.exe Question In-Reply-To: <423B11EB.8090304@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:38 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: [OT?] FIPS.exe Question karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: > I've used FIPS.EXE in the past to create a second partition from an > existing partition for a dual boot PC, however I am now in need of > enlarging a partition and removing the second one for retiring a dual boot > to be just a windows pc for an old 16-bit app that isn't available for > Linux. So, is there software for Windows similar to FIPS that would allow > me to do this? Wouldn't the disk manager in W2K/XP do the job? I won't swear to it, as I try to stay away from that sort of thing in the Winblows world. > As an aside, I would use this command for AIX: > # chfs -a size='6930442' /u1 > Is there a similar command in Linux? For ext2/ext3, sure..."resize2fs". You need to grow the partition first, using parted or some such, then you can "resize2fs /dev/hdxp". See "man resize2fs" for details. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can also check out "diskpart". It's somewhat cryptic, but it should do the job. Start -> Run -> diskpart. Take a look at the help. _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Fri Mar 18 20:47:18 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:47:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [OT?] FIPS.exe Question Message-ID: <33669.207.173.117.242.1111178838.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> I've used FIPS.EXE in the past to create a second partition from an >> Linux. So, is there software for Windows similar to FIPS that would allow >> me to do this? > Wouldn't the disk manager in W2K/XP do the job? I won't swear to it, as > I try to stay away from that sort of thing in the Winblows world. That would be nice if this wasn't Win98se. 16-bit app on a 2-bit OS. WinXP is about 2.5 bits worth. >> As an aside, I would use this command for AIX: >> # chfs -a size='6930442' /u1 >> Is there a similar command in Linux? > For ext2/ext3, sure..."resize2fs". You need to grow the partition > first, using parted or some such, then you can "resize2fs /dev/hdxp". > See "man resize2fs" for details. Thanks for that one. I'd forgotten. Too much time on AIX during work. Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Fri Mar 18 21:03:12 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:03:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download In-Reply-To: <20050318120053.11840.qmail@webmail32.rediffmail.com> References: <20050318120053.11840.qmail@webmail32.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <33691.207.173.117.242.1111179792.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > > can u tell me a little sort of script line that i will put in. > > wget ftp://tivimtech.com/*.* .......rest i do not know > how will i specify user name and password ? and will *.* download all file > of ftp server in any folder? Frankly, I'd use ftp to do it and run a script like this one I wrote (you'll have to change the PUT to GET and any associated syntax): #!/bin/sh if [ "$6" = '' ] && [ "$5" = '' ] && [ "$4" = '' ] && [ "$3" = '' ] && [ "$2" = '' ] && [ "$1" = '' ] then echo echo Usage: $0 DestHost USERNm PASSWd LocalPth2Dir RemotePth2Dir FNAME echo exit 1 fi HOST=$1 USERNM=$2 PASSWD=$3 LPATH=$4 RPATH=$5 FNAME=$6 ftp -p -n $HOST 2>/dev/null <<- End_of_FTP_commands user $USERNM $PASSWD lcd $LPATH cd $RPATH put $FNAME End_of_FTP_commands This is just an idea for you to try. I use the above script in production many times an hour and it works fine. Of course, I know the filename to put... You can do the same thing with ssh and sftp, too, if you like. the major portion is the use of the <<- EOC which give the shell the power to enter the next lines within the ftp 'shell'. Cool stuff this is. Hope That Helps (HTH) Karl > > rgds > > ajay > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 Smith,Albert wrote : >>You can try and use wget -mirror and the location location of the ftp >>server and the files. This will do a complete transfer of everything in >>the path specified. And do it every hour you can write a script to do >>the transfer and dump it /etc/cron.hourly >> >> >> >>Albert Smith >>Sr. Unix Systems Administrator >>HPCSA, RHCT >>Genex Services >>440 E. Swedesford Rd. >>Wayne, PA 19087 >>albert.smith at genexservices.com >>(610) 964-5154 >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> >> From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of ajay >>chaudhary >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:59 AM >> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download >> >> >> >> sir can you tell me: >> >> we have a ftp server ftp://trivimtech.com on which our client >>put files for our work (50-200mb) and we have to fetch them frequently >> >> i want it to do with wget and want to schedule it for 1hr , it >>automatically will go on ftp server , check what is left to download and >>if any new file it download it. >> >> my folder on ftp:/trivimtech.com is "from macmilan" >> >> and after finishing file work in our lab as we put it on our >>linx server (rh9.0) in "finished" it gets uploaded by itself in "to >>macmilan" folder on our ftp server. >> >> is there any ready software for this purpose. and how should i >>use cron for this purpose. where i put it in crontab? >> >> regards >> >> ajay >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Fri Mar 18 21:14:29 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:14:29 -0800 Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download In-Reply-To: <33691.207.173.117.242.1111179792.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <20050318120053.11840.qmail@webmail32.rediffmail.com> <33691.207.173.117.242.1111179792.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <423B44B5.1030008@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>can u tell me a little sort of script line that i will put in. >> >>wget ftp://tivimtech.com/*.* .......rest i do not know >>how will i specify user name and password ? and will *.* download all file >>of ftp server in any folder? > > > Frankly, I'd use ftp to do it and run a script like this one I wrote > (you'll have to change the PUT to GET and any associated syntax): > > #!/bin/sh > if [ "$6" = '' ] && > [ "$5" = '' ] && > [ "$4" = '' ] && > [ "$3" = '' ] && > [ "$2" = '' ] && > [ "$1" = '' ] > then > echo > echo Usage: $0 DestHost USERNm PASSWd LocalPth2Dir RemotePth2Dir FNAME > echo > exit 1 > fi > HOST=$1 > USERNM=$2 > PASSWD=$3 > LPATH=$4 > RPATH=$5 > FNAME=$6 > ftp -p -n $HOST 2>/dev/null <<- End_of_FTP_commands > user $USERNM $PASSWD > lcd $LPATH > cd $RPATH > put $FNAME > End_of_FTP_commands Uh, how about: #!/bin/bash if [ $# -lt 6 ]; then echo echo Usage: $0 remotehost username passwd localpath remotepath fname echo exit 1 fi ncftpget -d /var/log/ncftpget.log -u $2 -p $3 $1 $4 $5/$6 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The light at the end of the tunnel is really an oncoming train. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From evdhn at advalvas.be Sat Mar 19 19:23:13 2005 From: evdhn at advalvas.be (evdhn at advalvas.be) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:23:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: KVM question In-Reply-To: <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> References: <4239BCB8.60401@vitalstream.com> <000701c52b1b$47726d80$0500a8c0@MARTIN> Message-ID: <4473.213.119.138.165.1111260193.squirrel@213.119.138.165> > Q3: Any idea on how I can restore the original configuration file for the > default Fedora core 3 desktop? Then I'll have all the widgets in front of > me > again so I can start learning more about Linux. In a similar situation, I once created a new account and moved my personal files into it. (Actually, I moved my home directory, deleted my account, recreated it, and then moved my files.) emma ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plaats je zoekertjes GRATIS op AdValvas Placez votre petite annonce GRATUITEMENT sur AdValvas http://www.advalvas.be From ajay197947 at rediffmail.com Mon Mar 21 12:07:44 2005 From: ajay197947 at rediffmail.com (ajay chaudhary) Date: 21 Mar 2005 12:07:44 -0000 Subject: autoftp upload/download Message-ID: <20050321120744.14955.qmail@webmail17.rediffmail.com> hello everybody pls tell me : i working on wget to download ftp://tivimtech.com actually i am able to download http://tivimtech.com which is our website contents. "jps, htmls, swx and all" but if i use wget -rc ftp://tivimtech.com it does not work? and also tell me how i can assign username and password in this command in one go, as our ftp site require username and password ? and also tell me can i also use wget to upload on ftp server..? or which utility is used ? will gftp will work for remote ftp server ? thanks in advance rgds ajay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From anorder at nordix.nl Mon Mar 21 12:15:16 2005 From: anorder at nordix.nl (Arden B. Norder) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:15:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: autoftp upload/download In-Reply-To: <20050321120744.14955.qmail@webmail17.rediffmail.com> References: <20050321120744.14955.qmail@webmail17.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <3835394.1111407316855.SLOX.WebMail.wwwrun@mail.nordix.nl> Ajay, Everything you are asking is can be found in the man pages. Type man wget on the console and you will see a ton of information. Greetings, Arden On Mar 21, 2005 01:07 PM, ajay chaudhary wrote: > > hello everybody > > pls tell me : > > i working on wget to download ftp://tivimtech.com > actually i am able to download http://tivimtech.com which is our website > contents. "jps, htmls, swx and all" > > but if i use wget -rc ftp://tivimtech.com it does not work? > > and also tell me how i can assign username and password in this command in one > go, as our ftp site require username and password ? > > and also tell me can i also use wget to upload on ftp server..? > > or which utility is used ? > > will gftp will work for remote ftp server ? > > thanks in advance > > rgds > > ajay From randy1200 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 21 15:03:57 2005 From: randy1200 at yahoo.com (Bone Randy) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:03:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: In-use Network Ports Message-ID: <20050321150357.94350.qmail@web54301.mail.yahoo.com> Under Red Hat Enterprise 3 WS, is there a command to verify that a particular network port is in use? Is there a file where port information is stored? Thanks, Randy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jkinz at kinz.org Mon Mar 21 15:27:52 2005 From: jkinz at kinz.org (Jeff Kinz) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:27:52 -0500 Subject: In-use Network Ports In-Reply-To: <20050321150357.94350.qmail@web54301.mail.yahoo.com>; from randy1200@yahoo.com on Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:03:57AM -0800 References: <20050321150357.94350.qmail@web54301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050321102752.A7545@redline.comcast.net> On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:03:57AM -0800, Bone Randy wrote: > Under Red Hat Enterprise 3 WS, is there a command to > verify that a particular network port is in use? Is > there a file where port information is stored? uh, socklist? (try the "apropos" command for these types of questions) # socklist type port inode uid pid fd name tcp 32768 1124 29 828 6 rpc.statd tcp 32769 1323 0 1478 2 fam tcp 515 1373 0 1095 5 lpd tcp 139 1534 0 1259 9 smbd tcp 111 1067 0 800 4 portmap tcp 6000 1603 0 1322 1 X tcp 22 1278 0 1029 3 sshd tcp 25 1421 0 1124 4 sendmail tcp 139 635224 0 12671 5 smbd udp 32768 1121 29 828 5 rpc.statd udp 514 1038 0 775 25 syslogd udp 137 1542 0 1264 8 nmbd udp 137 1539 0 1264 6 nmbd udp 138 1543 0 1264 9 nmbd udp 138 1540 0 1264 7 nmbd udp 33336 360970 0 2273 7 tcpdump udp 33337 360974 0 2273 8 tcpdump udp 33601 635225 0 12671 12 smbd udp 33736 722428 0 2273 9 tcpdump udp 33256 253080 0 2273 4 tcpdump udp 33257 253084 0 2273 5 tcpdump udp 33258 253092 0 2273 6 tcpdump udp 1004 1105 0 828 4 rpc.statd udp 111 1066 0 800 3 portmap -- "The only system which is truly secure, is one which is switched off and unplugged, locked in a titanium lined safe, buried in a concrete bunker, surrounded by nerve gas and very highly paid armed guards. Even then, I wouldn't stake my life on it" - Gene Spafford (Good thing. the law of unintended consequences: A laptop, w/wireless NIC and wake on "date" set in the BIOS) http://kinz.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 21 16:55:53 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:55:53 -0800 Subject: In-use Network Ports In-Reply-To: <20050321102752.A7545@redline.comcast.net> References: <20050321150357.94350.qmail@web54301.mail.yahoo.com> <20050321102752.A7545@redline.comcast.net> Message-ID: <423EFC99.2010902@vitalstream.com> Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:03:57AM -0800, Bone Randy wrote: > >>Under Red Hat Enterprise 3 WS, is there a command to >>verify that a particular network port is in use? Is >>there a file where port information is stored? > > > > uh, socklist? > > (try the "apropos" command for these types of questions) > > # socklist > type port inode uid pid fd name > tcp 32768 1124 29 828 6 rpc.statd > tcp 32769 1323 0 1478 2 fam > tcp 515 1373 0 1095 5 lpd > tcp 139 1534 0 1259 9 smbd > tcp 111 1067 0 800 4 portmap > tcp 6000 1603 0 1322 1 X > tcp 22 1278 0 1029 3 sshd > tcp 25 1421 0 1124 4 sendmail > tcp 139 635224 0 12671 5 smbd > udp 32768 1121 29 828 5 rpc.statd > udp 514 1038 0 775 25 syslogd > udp 137 1542 0 1264 8 nmbd > udp 137 1539 0 1264 6 nmbd > udp 138 1543 0 1264 9 nmbd > udp 138 1540 0 1264 7 nmbd > udp 33336 360970 0 2273 7 tcpdump > udp 33337 360974 0 2273 8 tcpdump > udp 33601 635225 0 12671 12 smbd > udp 33736 722428 0 2273 9 tcpdump > udp 33256 253080 0 2273 4 tcpdump > udp 33257 253084 0 2273 5 tcpdump > udp 33258 253092 0 2273 6 tcpdump > udp 1004 1105 0 828 4 rpc.statd > udp 111 1066 0 800 3 portmap Yes, that's one, but it's a Perl script. The basis of stuff is the "netstat -p". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I doubt, therefore I might be. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon Mar 21 19:11:27 2005 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (karlp at ourldsfamily.com) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:11:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download In-Reply-To: <423B44B5.1030008@vitalstream.com> References: <20050318120053.11840.qmail@webmail32.rediffmail.com> <33691.207.173.117.242.1111179792.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <423B44B5.1030008@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <33330.207.173.117.242.1111432287.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> > karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>>can u tell me a little sort of script line that i will put in. >>> >>>wget ftp://tivimtech.com/*.* .......rest i do not know >>>how will i specify user name and password ? and will *.* download all >>> file >>>of ftp server in any folder? >> >> >> Frankly, I'd use ftp to do it and run a script like this one I wrote >> (you'll have to change the PUT to GET and any associated syntax): >> >> #!/bin/sh >> if [ "$6" = '' ] && >> [ "$5" = '' ] && >> [ "$4" = '' ] && >> [ "$3" = '' ] && >> [ "$2" = '' ] && >> [ "$1" = '' ] >> then >> echo >> echo Usage: $0 DestHost USERNm PASSWd LocalPth2Dir RemotePth2Dir >> FNAME >> echo >> exit 1 >> fi >> HOST=$1 >> USERNM=$2 >> PASSWD=$3 >> LPATH=$4 >> RPATH=$5 >> FNAME=$6 >> ftp -p -n $HOST 2>/dev/null <<- End_of_FTP_commands >> user $USERNM $PASSWD >> lcd $LPATH >> cd $RPATH >> put $FNAME >> End_of_FTP_commands > > Uh, how about: > > #!/bin/bash > if [ $# -lt 6 ]; then Duh. I'm not that far into any of the self-help books I'm learning from... Hey, it works. Thanks Rick. > echo > echo Usage: $0 remotehost username passwd localpath remotepath fname > echo > exit 1 > fi > ncftpget -d /var/log/ncftpget.log -u $2 -p $3 $1 $4 $5/$6 Not available on my server (AIX 4.3.3) and the Linux Toolbox isn't installed. With a new server nearly on order which WILL have the Linux toolbox, It'll be happening soon. Karl > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - The light at the end of the tunnel is really an oncoming train. - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 21 21:18:25 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:18:25 -0800 Subject: cron to check ftp upload/download In-Reply-To: <33330.207.173.117.242.1111432287.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> References: <20050318120053.11840.qmail@webmail32.rediffmail.com> <33691.207.173.117.242.1111179792.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> <423B44B5.1030008@vitalstream.com> <33330.207.173.117.242.1111432287.squirrel@ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <423F3A21.9020800@vitalstream.com> karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >>karlp at ourldsfamily.com wrote: >> >>>>can u tell me a little sort of script line that i will put in. >>>> >>>>wget ftp://tivimtech.com/*.* .......rest i do not know >>>>how will i specify user name and password ? and will *.* download all >>>>file >>>>of ftp server in any folder? >>> >>> >>>Frankly, I'd use ftp to do it and run a script like this one I wrote >>>(you'll have to change the PUT to GET and any associated syntax): >>> >>>#!/bin/sh >>>if [ "$6" = '' ] && >>> [ "$5" = '' ] && >>> [ "$4" = '' ] && >>> [ "$3" = '' ] && >>> [ "$2" = '' ] && >>> [ "$1" = '' ] >>> then >>> echo >>> echo Usage: $0 DestHost USERNm PASSWd LocalPth2Dir RemotePth2Dir >>>FNAME >>> echo >>> exit 1 >>>fi >>>HOST=$1 >>>USERNM=$2 >>>PASSWD=$3 >>>LPATH=$4 >>>RPATH=$5 >>>FNAME=$6 >>>ftp -p -n $HOST 2>/dev/null <<- End_of_FTP_commands >>>user $USERNM $PASSWD >>>lcd $LPATH >>>cd $RPATH >>>put $FNAME >>>End_of_FTP_commands >> >>Uh, how about: >> >>#!/bin/bash >>if [ $# -lt 6 ]; then > > > Duh. > I'm not that far into any of the self-help books I'm learning from... > Hey, it works. Thanks Rick. No problem. "$#" returns the number of arguments passed to the script. It does NOT count $0 (the script name itself). Also "$?" returns the return code from the LAST program run. Generally, successful programs return 0 and failures return non-zero, so: RC=$? # Remember $? only works for the LAST program/script if [ $RC -ne 0 ]; then echo Program failed, return code $RC else echo Program succeeded\! fi is a way to see if it was successful or not. I assigned the value of $? to RC because $? would be reset by the "if" statement itself. >> echo >> echo Usage: $0 remotehost username passwd localpath remotepath fname >> echo >> exit 1 >>fi >>ncftpget -d /var/log/ncftpget.log -u $2 -p $3 $1 $4 $5/$6 > > > Not available on my server (AIX 4.3.3) and the Linux Toolbox isn't > installed. With a new server nearly on order which WILL have the Linux > toolbox, It'll be happening soon. ncftpget can be had from http://www.ncftp.com/download/. There are even precompiled binaries for AIX 4.3.3 on the RS/6000: http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/binaries/ncftp-3.1.8-aix4.3.3-export.tar.gz I'd get the client for sure...it's a HUGE part of my toolkit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - UNIX is actually quite user friendly. The problem is that it's - - just very picky of who its friends are! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gnichols at tpg.com.au Tue Mar 22 06:06:18 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:06:18 +1100 Subject: Epson LQ-300+ printer install problems Message-ID: <423FB5DA.8030002@tpg.com.au> Hello Folks, My old Epsom Stylus Colour 460 inkjet finally gave up the ghost. Blocked up and cannot unblock it. I purchased an Epson LQ-300+ 24 pin dot matrix but I cannot get it to work satisfactorily in FC3. On boot-up the printer is detected as an Epson LQ-300+ correctly. Setting up the queue the LQ-300+ is not listed in the Epson printer driver list so I chose the 24 pin 80 col. printer instead. Sending a print job to it results in a form feed and no actual ink on the paper. Choosing the LQ-300, a nine pin printer, results in the same form feed. The only printer that I can get it to work as is an generic IBM compatible but the quality of the print is abysmal. Has anyone managed to setup this printer in FC3 or know what I am doing wrong and can point me in the right direction? TIA -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 101 USES FOR A DEAD MICROPROCESSOR (1) Scarecrow for centipedes (2) Dead cat brush (3) Hair barrettes (4) Cleats (5) Self-piercing earrings (6) Fungus trellis (7) False eyelashes (8) Prosthetic dog claws . . . (99) Window garden harrow (pulled behind Tonka tractors) (100) Killer velcro (101) Currency From navin.soni at st.com Tue Mar 22 07:15:01 2005 From: navin.soni at st.com (Navin SONI) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:45:01 +0530 Subject: RHL installation problem on compaq EVO-D510E(USB kybd) Message-ID: <423FC5F5.BF2CE341@st.com> hello all, i am facing the problem during RHL 9.0 install on Compaq EVO D510E model. i am doing the installation thru PXE. During Installation,it gives the error message: pc_keyb: controller jammed (0xff) After repeating this error message for long,it continues with the installation process and then i am able to use both kbd and mouse. But after the installation is over and i reboot the system,it again gives the above error message and continues toward booting . During booting it hangs over at "Found New Hardware". Even though during the interactive session if i tried pressing "I" it doesn't take it. Wheather the problem is with USB keyboard or anything else. ALso i am using LILO boot loader. While using GRUB,it hangs at the begining itself,saying Loading GRUB stage2. any help would be appreciative. thanks navin. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 22 19:45:30 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:45:30 -0800 Subject: RHL installation problem on compaq EVO-D510E(USB kybd) In-Reply-To: <423FC5F5.BF2CE341@st.com> References: <423FC5F5.BF2CE341@st.com> Message-ID: <424075DA.3040800@vitalstream.com> Navin SONI wrote: > hello all, > > i am facing the problem during RHL 9.0 install on Compaq EVO D510E > model. > > i am doing the installation thru PXE. > > During Installation,it gives the error message: > > pc_keyb: controller jammed (0xff) > > After repeating this error message for long,it continues with the > installation process and then i am able to use both kbd and mouse. > > But after the installation is over and i reboot the system,it again > gives the above error message and continues toward booting . > > During booting it hangs over at "Found New Hardware". > > Even though during the interactive session if i tried pressing "I" it > doesn't take it. > > Wheather the problem is with USB keyboard or anything else. > > ALso i am using LILO boot loader. > > While using GRUB,it hangs at the begining itself,saying Loading GRUB > stage2. > > any help would be appreciative. First off, RH9 is dead, dead, dead. Red Hat stopped supporting it over a year ago. If you want a free Linux, you really should use Fedora Core 3 (which is what Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 is based on). That being said, go into your BIOS on your machine and disable "Legacy USB Support" (or whatever your BIOS calls it) and try again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Death is nature's way of dropping carrier - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From gnichols at tpg.com.au Wed Mar 23 01:17:59 2005 From: gnichols at tpg.com.au (Graeme Nichols) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:17:59 +1100 Subject: Epson LQ-300+ printer install problems. UPDATE In-Reply-To: <423FB5DA.8030002@tpg.com.au> References: <423FB5DA.8030002@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4240C3C7.1030905@tpg.com.au> Graeme Nichols wrote: > Hello Folks, > > My old Epsom Stylus Colour 460 inkjet finally gave up the ghost. > Blocked up and cannot unblock it. > > I purchased an Epson LQ-300+ 24 pin dot matrix but I cannot get it to > work satisfactorily in FC3. > On boot-up the printer is detected as an Epson LQ-300+ correctly. > Setting up the queue the LQ-300+ is not listed in the Epson printer > driver list so I chose the 24 pin 80 col. printer instead. Sending a > print job to it results in a form feed and no actual ink on the paper. > Choosing the LQ-300, a nine pin printer, results in the same form feed. > The only printer that I can get it to work as is an generic IBM > compatible but the quality of the print is abysmal. > > Has anyone managed to setup this printer in FC3 or know what I am > doing wrong and can point me in the right direction? > > TIA > An update to the above. I have been trying all sorts of drivers and for letters and other normal correspondence with OOo Writer the following driver seems to work quite well: Epson-Generic_ESC_P_24-J84 However, I still cannot print from either Evolution or Mozilla Thunderbird with the above driver. I am still in need of help. Hoping someone can come to my rescue. BTW, Epson 'dot matrix' printers are listed as working perfectly on linux-printing.org so I must be doing something wrong. (I have currently overcome the problem of printing from Evolution by creating another queue and using the generic driver 'IBM Compatible Dot Matrix Printer', print quality is poor though) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kind regards, Graeme. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel CPUs are not defective, they just act that way. -- Henry Spencer From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Mar 23 01:20:37 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:20:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: File Associations Message-ID: I'm having a problem with my file associations - I can't seem to get them changed. I want to default to a different MP3 player and I've changed all the associations I can find yet it still pulls up the original player. I've even gone as far as rebooting to see if that will do it and it doesn't work. Do I need to change these as Root? Thanks, -- Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't. From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 23 01:25:25 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:25:25 -0800 Subject: File Associations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4240C585.7090606@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > I'm having a problem with my file associations - I can't seem to > get them changed. I want to default to a different MP3 player > and I've changed all the associations I can find yet it still > pulls up the original player. I've even gone as far as rebooting > to see if that will do it and it doesn't work. > > Do I need to change these as Root? Not as root. If you're under Gnome, did you hit go through "HatIcon->Preferences->File types and programs"? That's where most of them are. Of course, Mozilla/Firefox have its own set under "Edit->Navigator->Helper Apps" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - - I'm in BIG trouble! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Wed Mar 23 05:15:22 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:15:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: File Associations In-Reply-To: <4240C585.7090606@vitalstream.com> References: <4240C585.7090606@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> I'm having a problem with my file associations - I can't seem to get them >> changed. I want to default to a different MP3 player and I've changed all >> the associations I can find yet it still pulls up the original player. >> I've even gone as far as rebooting to see if that will do it and it doesn't >> work. >> >> Do I need to change these as Root? > > Not as root. If you're under Gnome, did you hit go through > "HatIcon->Preferences->File types and programs"? That's where most > of them are. Of course, Mozilla/Firefox have its own set under > "Edit->Navigator->Helper Apps" Yep, that's basically how I did it (My system got messed up when I upgraded Ximian so I go through System-Personal Settings-File Associations) but it's the same basic place. I make the changes and nada. Anyplace deeper I can look (i.e. go right into the data file with VI and search and change)? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - If this is the first day of the rest of my life... - > - I'm in BIG trouble! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl Wed Mar 23 16:24:38 2005 From: cristina at rayen.face.ubiobio.cl (Maria Cristina del Solar) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:24:38 -0400 (CLT) Subject: I have a problem with umount (fwd) In-Reply-To: <4239BAB1.809@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: [...] > > > > > > The machine starts in run level 3, of that I'm safe. > > Ok, then verify that you have "Kxx-processname" files in > /etc/rc.d/rc3.d. Note that the system will use those scripts in ASCII > sort order, e.g. K00 will be run before K01, K10 will be run before K11, > etc. That should shut down most of your running processes--note that > syslogd is NOT shut down via that process and that's most likely where > the "/var busy" message comes from I have verified files in /etc/rc.d/rc6.d, I run "ls" command K03rhnsd K05atd K05saslauthd K10cups K10dc_server K10psacct K10xfs K12dc_client K15gpm K15httpd K20nfs K24irda K25squid K25sshd K30sendmail K35smb K35vncserver K35winbind K40smartd K44rawdevices K45named K50netdump K50snmpd K50snmptrapd K50tux K50xinetd K60crond K61hpoj K70aep1000 K70bcm5820 K72autofs K74apmd K74ntpd K75netfs K80random K85mdmonitor K85mdmpd K86nfslock K87irqbalance K87portmap K88syslog K89iscsi K90network K91isdn K92ip6tables K92iptables K94diskdump K95audit K95kudzu K96pcmcia K99microcode_ctl S00killall S01halt Then I run ls command in rc3.d K05saslauthd K10cups K10dc_server K10psacct K12dc_client K15httpd K20nfs K24irda K25squid K35smb K35vncserver K35winbind K40smartd K45named K50netdump K50snmpd K50snmptrapd K50tux K70aep1000 K70bcm5820 K74ntpd K85mdmpd K89iscsi K94diskdump S00microcode_ctl S05kudzu S08ip6tables S08iptables S09isdn S10network S12syslog S13irqbalance S13portmap S14nfslock S15mdmonitor S20audit S20random S24pcmcia S25netfs S26apmd S28autofs S55sshd S56rawdevices S56xinetd S59hpoj S80sendmail S85gpm S90crond S90xfs S95atd S97rhnsd S98procallator S99apachectl S99apachectlSSL S99local S99mysqld.sh S99orca S99postfix in fact there are something no present in rc6.d please, tell me if I am in the correct thing. Best Regards From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 23 18:59:27 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:59:27 -0800 Subject: I have a problem with umount (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4241BC8F.2070900@vitalstream.com> Maria Cristina del Solar wrote: > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > > [...] > >>> >>>The machine starts in run level 3, of that I'm safe. >> >>Ok, then verify that you have "Kxx-processname" files in >>/etc/rc.d/rc3.d. Note that the system will use those scripts in ASCII >>sort order, e.g. K00 will be run before K01, K10 will be run before K11, >>etc. That should shut down most of your running processes--note that >>syslogd is NOT shut down via that process and that's most likely where >>the "/var busy" message comes from > > > I have verified files in /etc/rc.d/rc6.d, I run "ls" command > > K03rhnsd > K05atd > K05saslauthd > K10cups > K10dc_server > K10psacct > K10xfs > K12dc_client > K15gpm > K15httpd > K20nfs > K24irda > K25squid > K25sshd > K30sendmail > K35smb > K35vncserver > K35winbind > K40smartd > K44rawdevices > K45named > K50netdump > K50snmpd > K50snmptrapd > K50tux > K50xinetd > K60crond > K61hpoj > K70aep1000 > K70bcm5820 > K72autofs > K74apmd > K74ntpd > K75netfs > K80random > K85mdmonitor > K85mdmpd > K86nfslock > K87irqbalance > K87portmap > K88syslog > K89iscsi > K90network > K91isdn > K92ip6tables > K92iptables > K94diskdump > K95audit > K95kudzu > K96pcmcia > K99microcode_ctl > S00killall > S01halt > > Then I run ls command in rc3.d > > K05saslauthd > K10cups > K10dc_server > K10psacct > K12dc_client > K15httpd > K20nfs > K24irda > K25squid > K35smb > K35vncserver > K35winbind > K40smartd > K45named > K50netdump > K50snmpd > K50snmptrapd > K50tux > K70aep1000 > K70bcm5820 > K74ntpd > K85mdmpd > K89iscsi > K94diskdump > S00microcode_ctl > S05kudzu > S08ip6tables > S08iptables > S09isdn > S10network > S12syslog > S13irqbalance > S13portmap > S14nfslock > S15mdmonitor > S20audit > S20random > S24pcmcia > S25netfs > S26apmd > S28autofs > S55sshd > S56rawdevices > S56xinetd > S59hpoj > S80sendmail > S85gpm > S90crond > S90xfs > S95atd > S97rhnsd > S98procallator > S99apachectl > S99apachectlSSL > S99local > S99mysqld.sh > S99orca > S99postfix > > in fact there are something no present in rc6.d > > please, tell me if I am in the correct thing. Yes, that's fine. It all looks correct to me. Your message is surely coming from the fact that syslogd isn't stopped and you can safely ignore the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum was right - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 23 19:10:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:10:47 -0800 Subject: File Associations In-Reply-To: References: <4240C585.7090606@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <4241BF37.3050501@vitalstream.com> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> brad.mugleston at comcast.net wrote: >> >>> I'm having a problem with my file associations - I can't seem to get >>> them changed. I want to default to a different MP3 player and I've >>> changed all the associations I can find yet it still pulls up the >>> original player. I've even gone as far as rebooting to see if that >>> will do it and it doesn't work. >>> >>> Do I need to change these as Root? >> >> >> Not as root. If you're under Gnome, did you hit go through >> "HatIcon->Preferences->File types and programs"? That's where most >> of them are. Of course, Mozilla/Firefox have its own set under >> "Edit->Navigator->Helper Apps" > > > Yep, that's basically how I did it (My system got messed up when I > upgraded Ximian so I go through System-Personal Settings-File > Associations) but it's the same basic place. I make the changes and nada. Did you log out and back in? That stuff is session-based so you need to restart the session for it to take effect. > Anyplace deeper I can look (i.e. go right into the data file with VI and > search and change)? Uhm, lemme see...it's buried in a number of places. You could try editing ~/.gnome/application-info/user.applications and see if any of the mime types in there affect it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From micros50 at computer.net Thu Mar 24 04:20:33 2005 From: micros50 at computer.net (mylar) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:20:33 -0500 Subject: CUPS Dilemna Message-ID: <1111638033.2337.9.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> I have a network with several Linux and Windows machines. The Linux machines are running Fedora 1 and Fedora 3 and one of the Linux machines (running Fedora 1) has a printer attached to it and on that machine I am running CUPS set appropriatly to share that printer queue with all other machines on the network. It works fine, problem free except on one Linux machine running Fedora three where no "browsed queues" show up. The odd thing was that machine was seeing the queue in it's list of browsed queues up till a few days ago. I thought perhaps the machine with the printer attached wasn't broadcasting it's queue anymore for some strange reason but that isd unlikely being that all other machines on the network see the printer with no problem. I checked the CUPS configuration on the problem machine and all seems normal. Nothing was changed and the daemon is up and running normally. The machine seems to be networked normally I can ping, telnet and ssh into all other networked machines as well as access the Internet. Am I missing anything ? Any preliminary ideas why the printer would suddenly dissapear and only to one machine on the network ? This is really bizarre. mylar From roland at cat.be Wed Mar 23 16:55:19 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:55:19 +0100 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <41F68484.3090208@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <003d01c52fc9$18d40fd0$7a0101c0@pccat03> I have a server with FD3 I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe Everything goes well with XP and W98 With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of lastlogin If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has no firewall. What does Me that XP an W98 don't? Thanks for your help. From hello_rathi at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 06:37:36 2005 From: hello_rathi at yahoo.com (Rathi Devi V) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 22:37:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: TV tuner Installation steps. Message-ID: <20050324063736.42941.qmail@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, I need to install a tv tuner card (pinnacle PCTV stereo) on RH9.0. can someone suggest me how i cud do that. The card is not listed when i give lspci .. I tried to probe the card it with modprobe bttv and it failed saying insmod failed.even after specifying the card option. thanks in advance rathi __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dlpeterson at cableone.net Thu Mar 24 15:03:23 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:03:23 -0700 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <003d01c52fc9$18d40fd0$7a0101c0@pccat03> Message-ID: I have a server with FD3 I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe Everything goes well with XP and W98 With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of lastlogin If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has no firewall. What does Me that XP an W98 don't? Thanks for your help. ***************** I'm not sure what's happening, but maybe someone else can tell you. I would recommend that you download Putty, or some other secure shell program and using ssh rather than telnet. Putty is free and can be found here. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rhil at manordata.uklinux.net Thu Mar 24 18:01:36 2005 From: rhil at manordata.uklinux.net (Chris Hewitt) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:01:36 +0000 Subject: CUPS Dilemna In-Reply-To: <1111638033.2337.9.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> References: <1111638033.2337.9.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: <1111687295.6821.1.camel@amdk63.homemanordata.nodom> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 04:20, mylar wrote: > I have a network with several Linux and Windows machines. The Linux > machines are running Fedora 1 and Fedora 3 and one of the Linux machines > (running Fedora 1) has a printer attached to it and on that machine I am > running CUPS set appropriatly to share that printer queue with all other > machines on the network. It works fine, problem free except on one Linux > machine running Fedora three where no "browsed queues" show up. The odd > thing was that machine was seeing the queue in it's list of browsed > queues up till a few days ago. I thought perhaps the machine with the > printer attached wasn't broadcasting it's queue anymore for some strange > reason but that isd unlikely being that all other machines on the > network see the printer with no problem. I checked the CUPS > configuration on the problem machine and all seems normal. Nothing was > changed and the daemon is up and running normally. The machine seems to > be networked normally I can ping, telnet and ssh into all other > networked machines as well as access the Internet. > > Am I missing anything ? Any preliminary ideas why the printer would > suddenly dissapear and only to one machine on the network ? This is > really bizarre. > > mylar You haven't changed the firewall on that computer have you? Port 631 needs to be open. Just a thought. Chris From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 24 18:03:47 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:03:47 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <003d01c52fc9$18d40fd0$7a0101c0@pccat03> References: <003d01c52fc9$18d40fd0$7a0101c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <42430103.20108@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > I have a server with FD3 > I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. > We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe > Everything goes well with XP and W98 > With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of > lastlogin > If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. > I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has > no firewall. > What does Me that XP an W98 don't? First off, using telnet is a bad idea as it is completely insecure (everything including passwords are sent in cleartext). This isn't an issue if your network has no gateway to the internet, but I'd highly recommend you stop using telnet and use ssh. There are a number of free ssh clients for Windows, the most popular being "putty". Do a google search for that, install it and use it. Disable telnet completely. Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get you the prompt. Can you fix it? Probably not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum was right - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From dlpeterson at cableone.net Thu Mar 24 18:31:06 2005 From: dlpeterson at cableone.net (Darin Peterson) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:31:06 -0700 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <42430103.20108@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: How about including the latest message threads instead of modifying old ones? -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:04 AM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: telnet roland brouwers wrote: > I have a server with FD3 > I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. > We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe > Everything goes well with XP and W98 > With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of > lastlogin > If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. > I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has > no firewall. > What does Me that XP an W98 don't? First off, using telnet is a bad idea as it is completely insecure (everything including passwords are sent in cleartext). This isn't an issue if your network has no gateway to the internet, but I'd highly recommend you stop using telnet and use ssh. There are a number of free ssh clients for Windows, the most popular being "putty". Do a google search for that, install it and use it. Disable telnet completely. Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get you the prompt. Can you fix it? Probably not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum was right - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Thu Mar 24 22:45:05 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:45:05 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424342F1.2070600@vitalstream.com> Darin Peterson wrote: > How about including the latest message threads instead of modifying old > ones? Eh? I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. I purge my old messages so I don't know if Roland hijacked a thread or not. And we prefer bottom posting here, Darin (as do most Linux-oriented lists). > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Rick Stevens > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:04 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: telnet > > > roland brouwers wrote: > >>I have a server with FD3 >>I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. >>We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe >>Everything goes well with XP and W98 >>With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of >>lastlogin >>If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. >>I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has >>no firewall. >>What does Me that XP an W98 don't? > > > First off, using telnet is a bad idea as it is completely insecure > (everything including passwords are sent in cleartext). This isn't an > issue if your network has no gateway to the internet, but I'd highly > recommend you stop using telnet and use ssh. There are a number of free > ssh clients for Windows, the most popular being "putty". Do a google > search for that, install it and use it. Disable telnet completely. > > Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the > terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a > login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the > first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet > that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get > you the prompt. > > Can you fix it? Probably not. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do you know where _your_ towel is? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 19:53:45 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:53:45 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050325115345d728c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, While we've had wireless workign for 2-3 months it's never been as reliable a connection as I'd like. We get lots of audio dropouts when streaming ogg files, etc. I'm wondering what sort of signal strengths are required to really keep it working? Here are a couple of scans that are representative of what we see: [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. Some things may be broken... wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ ESSID:"" Protocol:IEEE 802.11b Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Quality:0/100 Signal level:-56 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm Encryption key:on Bit Rate:1Mb/s Bit Rate:2Mb/s Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Bit Rate:11Mb/s Bit Rate:6Mb/s Bit Rate:12Mb/s Bit Rate:24Mb/s Bit Rate:36Mb/s Bit Rate:8.5Mb/s Extra:bcn_int=100 Extra:atim=0 [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. Some things may be broken... wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ ESSID:"" Protocol:IEEE 802.11b Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Quality:0/100 Signal level:-54 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm Encryption key:on Bit Rate:1Mb/s Bit Rate:2Mb/s Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Bit Rate:11Mb/s Bit Rate:6Mb/s Bit Rate:12Mb/s Bit Rate:24Mb/s Bit Rate:36Mb/s Extra:bcn_int=100 Extra:atim=0 Cell 02 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ ESSID:"" Protocol:IEEE 802.11b Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Quality:0/100 Signal level:-71 dBm Noise level:-256 dBm Encryption key:on Bit Rate:1Mb/s Bit Rate:2Mb/s Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Bit Rate:11Mb/s Bit Rate:6Mb/s Bit Rate:12Mb/s Bit Rate:24Mb/s Bit Rate:36Mb/s Bit Rate:47Mb/s Bit Rate:32.5Mb/s Bit Rate:37Mb/s Bit Rate:32.5Mb/s Bit Rate:37.5Mb/s Bit Rate:3Mb/s Bit Rate:53.5Mb/s Bit Rate:60.5Mb/s Extra:bcn_int=100 Extra:atim=0 For those of you using wireless what sort of signal strength do you see for your connections and are those connections really reliable? With these levels it generally takes 5 minutes for the PC to establish a connection with the router in the morning and we get dropouts all day long. Thanks in advance, Mark From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 23:41:31 2005 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:41:31 -0600 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b050325115345d728c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401c53194$2c5f6fa0$4901a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:54 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > Hi, > While we've had wireless workign for 2-3 months it's never been as > reliable a connection as I'd like. We get lots of audio dropouts when > streaming ogg files, etc. I'm wondering what sort of signal strengths > are required to really keep it working? Here are a couple of scans > that are representative of what we see: > > [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning > Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 > of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. > Some things may be broken... > > wlan0 Scan completed : > Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ > ESSID:"" > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > Mode:Managed > Frequency:2.462GHz > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-56 dBm Noise level:-256 > dBm > Encryption key:on > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > Bit Rate:6Mb/s > Bit Rate:12Mb/s > Bit Rate:24Mb/s > Bit Rate:36Mb/s > Bit Rate:8.5Mb/s > Extra:bcn_int=100 > Extra:atim=0 > > [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning > Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 > of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. > Some things may be broken... > > wlan0 Scan completed : > Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ > ESSID:"" > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > Mode:Managed > Frequency:2.462GHz > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-54 dBm Noise level:-256 > dBm > Encryption key:on > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > Bit Rate:6Mb/s > Bit Rate:12Mb/s > Bit Rate:24Mb/s > Bit Rate:36Mb/s > Extra:bcn_int=100 > Extra:atim=0 > Cell 02 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ > ESSID:"" > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > Mode:Managed > Frequency:2.462GHz > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-71 dBm Noise level:-256 > dBm > Encryption key:on > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > Bit Rate:6Mb/s > Bit Rate:12Mb/s > Bit Rate:24Mb/s > Bit Rate:36Mb/s > Bit Rate:47Mb/s > Bit Rate:32.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:37Mb/s > Bit Rate:32.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:37.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:3Mb/s > Bit Rate:53.5Mb/s > Bit Rate:60.5Mb/s > Extra:bcn_int=100 > Extra:atim=0 > > > For those of you using wireless what sort of signal strength do you > see for your connections and are those connections really reliable? > With these levels it generally takes 5 minutes for the PC to establish > a connection with the router in the morning and we get dropouts all > day long. > > Thanks in advance, > Mark > I'm not sure what your problem is but in general, a wireless transmitter has a range of about 300 feet and since all of your wireless stuff is within that range since you are in your house, I don't think your problem is with the strength of signal unless... If all of your computers, I seem to remember your have 3 are dropping the signal then you might have a faulty router, otherwise you have something that is interfering, which happens. The thing to do is move the router to a different location and see if it improves. From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 23:47:56 2005 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:56 -0600 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <001401c53194$2c5f6fa0$4901a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <001501c53195$15af5f30$4901a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:42 PM > To: 'Mark Knecht'; 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > Subject: RE: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install- > list- > > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht > > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:54 PM > > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > > > Hi, > > While we've had wireless workign for 2-3 months it's never been as > > reliable a connection as I'd like. We get lots of audio dropouts when > > streaming ogg files, etc. I'm wondering what sort of signal strengths > > are required to really keep it working? Here are a couple of scans > > that are representative of what we see: > > > > [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning > > Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 > > of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. > > Some things may be broken... > > > > wlan0 Scan completed : > > Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ > > ESSID:"" > > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > > Mode:Managed > > Frequency:2.462GHz > > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-56 dBm Noise level:- > 256 > > dBm > > Encryption key:on > > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > > Bit Rate:6Mb/s > > Bit Rate:12Mb/s > > Bit Rate:24Mb/s > > Bit Rate:36Mb/s > > Bit Rate:8.5Mb/s > > Extra:bcn_int=100 > > Extra:atim=0 > > > > [root at dragonfly root]# iwlist wlan0 scanning > > Warning: Driver for device wlan0 has been compiled with version 17 > > of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 16. > > Some things may be broken... > > > > wlan0 Scan completed : > > Cell 01 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ > > ESSID:"" > > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > > Mode:Managed > > Frequency:2.462GHz > > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-54 dBm Noise level:- > 256 > > dBm > > Encryption key:on > > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > > Bit Rate:6Mb/s > > Bit Rate:12Mb/s > > Bit Rate:24Mb/s > > Bit Rate:36Mb/s > > Extra:bcn_int=100 > > Extra:atim=0 > > Cell 02 - Address: 00:09:5B:XX:YY:ZZ > > ESSID:"" > > Protocol:IEEE 802.11b > > Mode:Managed > > Frequency:2.462GHz > > Quality:0/100 Signal level:-71 dBm Noise level:- > 256 > > dBm > > Encryption key:on > > Bit Rate:1Mb/s > > Bit Rate:2Mb/s > > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s > > Bit Rate:11Mb/s > > Bit Rate:6Mb/s > > Bit Rate:12Mb/s > > Bit Rate:24Mb/s > > Bit Rate:36Mb/s > > Bit Rate:47Mb/s > > Bit Rate:32.5Mb/s > > Bit Rate:37Mb/s > > Bit Rate:32.5Mb/s > > Bit Rate:37.5Mb/s > > Bit Rate:3Mb/s > > Bit Rate:53.5Mb/s > > Bit Rate:60.5Mb/s > > Extra:bcn_int=100 > > Extra:atim=0 > > > > > > For those of you using wireless what sort of signal strength do you > > see for your connections and are those connections really reliable? > > With these levels it generally takes 5 minutes for the PC to establish > > a connection with the router in the morning and we get dropouts all > > day long. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Mark > > > I'm not sure what your problem is but in general, a wireless transmitter > has > a range of about 300 feet and since all of your wireless stuff is within > that range since you are in your house, I don't think your problem is with > the strength of signal unless... If all of your computers, I seem to > remember your have 3 are dropping the signal then you might have a faulty > router, otherwise you have something that is interfering, which happens. > The thing to do is move the router to a different location and see if it > improves. > > I have heard that some people do the thing they used to do to tv antennas and that is added aluminum foil to the antenna and sometimes a coat hanger with aluminum foil. Don't know if it works or not hahaha From markknecht at gmail.com Fri Mar 25 23:52:20 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:52:20 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <001501c53195$15af5f30$4901a8c0@C515816A> References: <001401c53194$2c5f6fa0$4901a8c0@C515816A> <001501c53195$15af5f30$4901a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05032515522a92f7e8@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:56 -0600, Otto Haliburton wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton > > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:42 PM > > To: 'Mark Knecht'; 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > > Subject: RE: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > > For those of you using wireless what sort of signal strength do you > > > see for your connections and are those connections really reliable? > > > With these levels it generally takes 5 minutes for the PC to establish > > > a connection with the router in the morning and we get dropouts all > > > day long. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Mark > > > > > I'm not sure what your problem is but in general, a wireless transmitter > > has > > a range of about 300 feet and since all of your wireless stuff is within > > that range since you are in your house, I don't think your problem is with > > the strength of signal unless... If all of your computers, I seem to > > remember your have 3 are dropping the signal then you might have a faulty > > router, otherwise you have something that is interfering, which happens. > > The thing to do is move the router to a different location and see if it > > improves. > > > > > I have heard that some people do the thing they used to do to tv antennas > and that is added aluminum foil to the antenna and sometimes a coat hanger > with aluminum foil. Don't know if it works or not hahaha Yeah, I've thought of the tin foil idea, but these antenna are not metal on the outside. (Or so it seems.) I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got significantly better, but not nearly good enough. Thanks Otto! Cheers, Mark From ottohaliburton at comcast.net Fri Mar 25 23:57:39 2005 From: ottohaliburton at comcast.net (Otto Haliburton) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:57:39 -0600 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05032515522a92f7e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001601c53196$6d92f490$4901a8c0@C515816A> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Knecht > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:52 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:56 -0600, Otto Haliburton > wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install- > list- > > > bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton > > > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:42 PM > > > To: 'Mark Knecht'; 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > > > Subject: RE: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > > > For those of you using wireless what sort of signal strength do you > > > > see for your connections and are those connections really reliable? > > > > With these levels it generally takes 5 minutes for the PC to > establish > > > > a connection with the router in the morning and we get dropouts all > > > > day long. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mark > > > > > > > I'm not sure what your problem is but in general, a wireless > transmitter > > > has > > > a range of about 300 feet and since all of your wireless stuff is > within > > > that range since you are in your house, I don't think your problem is > with > > > the strength of signal unless... If all of your computers, I seem to > > > remember your have 3 are dropping the signal then you might have a > faulty > > > router, otherwise you have something that is interfering, which > happens. > > > The thing to do is move the router to a different location and see if > it > > > improves. > > > > > > > > I have heard that some people do the thing they used to do to tv > antennas > > and that is added aluminum foil to the antenna and sometimes a coat > hanger > > with aluminum foil. Don't know if it works or not hahaha > > Yeah, I've thought of the tin foil idea, but these antenna are not > metal on the outside. (Or so it seems.) > > I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got > significantly better, but not nearly good enough. > > Thanks Otto! > > Cheers, > Mark > I don't think it has to be metal to work, in fact I am sure it does not and move it vertical also, I mean to a higher location and I also have heard that some brands are not as good as others so you might use the old Frys 15 day money back thing and try a different brand to see if it is better. From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 00:13:44 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:13:44 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <001601c53196$6d92f490$4901a8c0@C515816A> References: <5bdc1c8b05032515522a92f7e8@mail.gmail.com> <001601c53196$6d92f490$4901a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050325161329c77e75@mail.gmail.com> > > I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got > > significantly better, but not nearly good enough. > > > > Thanks Otto! > > > > Cheers, > > Mark > > > I don't think it has to be metal to work, in fact I am sure it does not and > move it vertical also, I mean to a higher location and I also have heard > that some brands are not as good as others so you might use the old Frys 15 > day money back thing and try a different brand to see if it is better. > > I'm trying to set up my laptop with ndiswrapper so I can run around the house and do some tests. How do I change the default routes to stop it from using the eth0 as the default route and make it use wlan0? I.e. - currently uses eth0 to get to the gateway and I want it to use wlan0? Thanks, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Sat Mar 26 00:55:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:55:15 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05032515522a92f7e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <001401c53194$2c5f6fa0$4901a8c0@C515816A> <001501c53195$15af5f30$4901a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b05032515522a92f7e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4244B2F3.1090700@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:56 -0600, Otto Haliburton > wrote: > >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- >>>bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton >>>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:42 PM >>>To: 'Mark Knecht'; 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' >>>Subject: RE: What's required to make wireless reliable? >>> >>>>For those of you using wireless what sort of signal strength do you >>>>see for your connections and are those connections really reliable? >>>>With these levels it generally takes 5 minutes for the PC to establish >>>>a connection with the router in the morning and we get dropouts all >>>>day long. >>>> >>>>Thanks in advance, >>>>Mark >>>> >>> >>>I'm not sure what your problem is but in general, a wireless transmitter >>>has >>>a range of about 300 feet and since all of your wireless stuff is within >>>that range since you are in your house, I don't think your problem is with >>>the strength of signal unless... If all of your computers, I seem to >>>remember your have 3 are dropping the signal then you might have a faulty >>>router, otherwise you have something that is interfering, which happens. >>>The thing to do is move the router to a different location and see if it >>>improves. >>> >>> >> >>I have heard that some people do the thing they used to do to tv antennas >>and that is added aluminum foil to the antenna and sometimes a coat hanger >>with aluminum foil. Don't know if it works or not hahaha > > > Yeah, I've thought of the tin foil idea, but these antenna are not > metal on the outside. (Or so it seems.) > > I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got > significantly better, but not nearly good enough. Remember that 802.11b and g are both "line-of-sight". The more walls and such it has to go through, the worse the reception. The problem is worse if any of the walls are "oblique" to the signal paths (greater than 90 degrees) as it makes the effective thickness of the wall greater. In order of range, 802.11a has the longest but it's not commonly used anymore and it's not particularly fast. 802.11g is second in range, 802.11b has the shortest. As far as brands are concerned, I've used D-Link, Linksys and Cisco. The Cisco seems to have the best range. The D-Link and Linksys seem to be about equal. I'm using a D-Link currently (an old DS-614+, 802.11b) with two external +7dB antennas and it works fine for me, but I'm just doing file transfers and vnc sessions--not listening to music. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - I'm afraid my karma just ran over your dogma - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 01:00:45 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:00:45 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <001901c5319a$2fa42ba0$4901a8c0@C515816A> References: <5bdc1c8b050325161329c77e75@mail.gmail.com> <001901c5319a$2fa42ba0$4901a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05032517001d0a2e2e@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:24:33 -0600, Otto Haliburton wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht at gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:14 PM > > To: Otto Haliburton > > Cc: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > > > > > I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got > > > > significantly better, but not nearly good enough. > > > > > > > > Thanks Otto! > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark > > > > > > > I don't think it has to be metal to work, in fact I am sure it does not > > and > > > move it vertical also, I mean to a higher location and I also have heard > > > that some brands are not as good as others so you might use the old Frys > > 15 > > > day money back thing and try a different brand to see if it is better. > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to set up my laptop with ndiswrapper so I can run around > > the house and do some tests. How do I change the default routes to > > stop it from using the eth0 as the default route and make it use > > wlan0? > > > > I.e. - currently uses eth0 to get to the gateway and I want it to use > > wlan0? > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > I think you go to either system or system utilities and there is a network > device under there and you can change it there. I am currently under xp and > I can't tell you exactly, but you will see it in the menu and you can use > its help to see how to use it. Better still just google wlan0 it might help > better with the problem you are having. > > Well I figured out that I can do ifdown eth0 route del eth0 ifup wlan0 route add default gw Netgear I can switch to wlan0 and it works. Actually I'm sending this from the laptop using wireless. However it's sort of strange but the results from iwlist wlan0 scan are not valid unless I do ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0. Unless I do that the value stays the same no matter where I am in the house. -13db 12" from the router -36db here at my desk -50db in my son's room -63db in my wife's office -63db in the kitchen From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 01:04:45 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:04:45 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <4244B2F3.1090700@vitalstream.com> References: <001401c53194$2c5f6fa0$4901a8c0@C515816A> <001501c53195$15af5f30$4901a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b05032515522a92f7e8@mail.gmail.com> <4244B2F3.1090700@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050325170424b092d5@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:55:15 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:47:56 -0600, Otto Haliburton > > wrote: > > > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list- > >>>bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton > >>>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:42 PM > >>>To: 'Mark Knecht'; 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' > >>>Subject: RE: What's required to make wireless reliable? > >>> > >>>>For those of you using wireless what sort of signal strength do you > >>>>see for your connections and are those connections really reliable? > >>>>With these levels it generally takes 5 minutes for the PC to establish > >>>>a connection with the router in the morning and we get dropouts all > >>>>day long. > >>>> > >>>>Thanks in advance, > >>>>Mark > >>>> > >>> > >>>I'm not sure what your problem is but in general, a wireless transmitter > >>>has > >>>a range of about 300 feet and since all of your wireless stuff is within > >>>that range since you are in your house, I don't think your problem is with > >>>the strength of signal unless... If all of your computers, I seem to > >>>remember your have 3 are dropping the signal then you might have a faulty > >>>router, otherwise you have something that is interfering, which happens. > >>>The thing to do is move the router to a different location and see if it > >>>improves. > >>> > >>> > >> > >>I have heard that some people do the thing they used to do to tv antennas > >>and that is added aluminum foil to the antenna and sometimes a coat hanger > >>with aluminum foil. Don't know if it works or not hahaha > > > > > > Yeah, I've thought of the tin foil idea, but these antenna are not > > metal on the outside. (Or so it seems.) > > > > I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got > > significantly better, but not nearly good enough. > > Remember that 802.11b and g are both "line-of-sight". The more walls > and such it has to go through, the worse the reception. The problem is > worse if any of the walls are "oblique" to the signal paths (greater > than 90 degrees) as it makes the effective thickness of the wall > greater. > > In order of range, 802.11a has the longest but it's not commonly used > anymore and it's not particularly fast. 802.11g is second in range, > 802.11b has the shortest. > > As far as brands are concerned, I've used D-Link, Linksys and Cisco. > The Cisco seems to have the best range. The D-Link and Linksys seem > to be about equal. I'm using a D-Link currently (an old DS-614+, > 802.11b) with two external +7dB antennas and it works fine for me, but > I'm just doing file transfers and vnc sessions--not listening to music. Hi Rick, Yeah, I get that, and we've done what we can to ensure as best reception as possible. However I'm curios what sort of power levels other people see. I range for -13db to -73db. (previous email I mistyped -63db in the kitchen. It's really -73db.) However even in the kitchen it links to the router and I can get to yahoo. However my wife's machine is the file server and at -63db I cannot reliably pull music off here machine and play it here on my desktop machine that's hardwired to the router. If you do iwlist wlan0 scan what sort of power are you seeing? Also, this is not (apparently) an 'error' problem. I am dropping my music connection but AFAIK I am not getting 'errors'. Weird... thanks, Mark From randy1200 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 26 17:52:06 2005 From: randy1200 at yahoo.com (Bone Randy) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:52:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: tftp test? Message-ID: <20050326175206.54903.qmail@web54308.mail.yahoo.com> I've setup a diskless server to boot from an Enterprise 3 WS Red Hat workstation. On the workstation, I've got the kernel in a /tftpboot directory, and the root file system setup over nfs. I can verify the root file system is exported on the network by typing exportfs at the command line. Is there a similar way to test that the tftpboot directory is visible on the network? Thanks, Randy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Sat Mar 26 21:02:36 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:02:36 -0500 Subject: tftp test? Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BCEBABDE@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Bone Randy > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 12:52 PM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: tftp test? > > I've setup a diskless server to boot from an Enterprise 3 WS > Red Hat workstation. On the workstation, I've got the kernel > in a /tftpboot directory, and the root file system setup over > nfs. I can verify the root file system is exported on the > network by typing exportfs at the command line. Is there a > similar way to test that the tftpboot directory is visible on > the network? > > Thanks, > Randy > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Make Yahoo! your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > Tftp into the host that is running the tftp server and do a get on a file that is there. If you can retrieve the file then all is succesfull. Also if you check /var/log/messages you will see if tftp served any files. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 From markknecht at gmail.com Sat Mar 26 21:25:35 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:25:35 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <001c01c531a3$40713b40$4901a8c0@C515816A> References: <5bdc1c8b05032517001d0a2e2e@mail.gmail.com> <001c01c531a3$40713b40$4901a8c0@C515816A> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05032613253d5f93d6@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:29:27 -0600, Otto Haliburton wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht at gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:01 PM > > To: Otto Haliburton > > Cc: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > Subject: Re: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:24:33 -0600, Otto Haliburton > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht at gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:14 PM > > > > To: Otto Haliburton > > > > Cc: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > > Subject: Re: What's required to make wireless reliable? > > > > > > > > > > I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got > > > > > > significantly better, but not nearly good enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Otto! > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it has to be metal to work, in fact I am sure it does > > not > > > > and > > > > > move it vertical also, I mean to a higher location and I also have > > heard > > > > > that some brands are not as good as others so you might use the old > > Frys > > > > 15 > > > > > day money back thing and try a different brand to see if it is > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to set up my laptop with ndiswrapper so I can run around > > > > the house and do some tests. How do I change the default routes to > > > > stop it from using the eth0 as the default route and make it use > > > > wlan0? > > > > > > > > I.e. - currently uses eth0 to get to the gateway and I want it to use > > > > wlan0? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > I think you go to either system or system utilities and there is a > > network > > > device under there and you can change it there. I am currently under xp > > and > > > I can't tell you exactly, but you will see it in the menu and you can > > use > > > its help to see how to use it. Better still just google wlan0 it might > > help > > > better with the problem you are having. > > > > > > > > > > Well I figured out that I can do > > > > ifdown eth0 > > route del eth0 > > ifup wlan0 > > route add default gw Netgear > > > > I can switch to wlan0 and it works. Actually I'm sending this from the > > laptop using wireless. > > > > However it's sort of strange but the results from iwlist wlan0 scan > > are not valid unless I do ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0. Unless I do that > > the value stays the same no matter where I am in the house. > > > > -13db 12" from the router > > -36db here at my desk > > -50db in my son's room > > -63db in my wife's office > > -63db in the kitchen > well, I am surprised that there is that much difference in the values, I > would have expected them to be approximately the same because of the > relative small distance from the router, but you are getting some type of > interference from something in your house. To me the relative signal > strength should be approximately equal since there should be nothing > interfering with the signal. If you were outside then it would be a > different situation, cause the signal can ride on electrical wires and other > stuff so it would be stronger in certain areas than others. What would be > curious if you left your laptop do the processing you were doing in the room > with the router and see if it ever dropped reception. If you assume that > the router is always putting out a signal at the same level then everything > that is 15 feet from the router should have the same db level then if you > move to 25 feet then those should be the same etc. in a perfect world, but > obviously something is causing a drop depending on where you are in your > house, unfortunately you don't have the equipment to locate exactly what it > is. But now that I look at the figures the relative strength in your son, > wife's office and kitchen are actually pretty close and your office is > obviously closer to the router. Now that I look at it I don't see a > problem, probably something for Rick or a wireless forum to discuss. > -13db 12" from the router -36db here at my desk My desk is in the same room as the router but on the other side of the bed. Approximately 14 feet east of the router. -50db in my son's room This machine is 14 feet east and 10 feet south of the router. Go through 1 wall to get to this machine. -63db in my wife's office This machine is approximately 35 feet south of the router. The signal either goes through 3 walls or goes outside through a window and then back in through another window to where my wife's desk is. -73db in the kitchen This is 14 feet east and 55 feet south of the router. The signal most probably goes through 4 or 5 walls to get here. Keep in mind that power drop on any signal from a point source drops as r-cubed. There is nothing between the 12" measurement and the 14 foot measurement. - Mark From kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr Sat Mar 26 22:20:52 2005 From: kostassf at cha.forthnet.gr (Kostas Sfakiotakis) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:20:52 +0200 Subject: TV tuner Installation steps. In-Reply-To: <20050324063736.42941.qmail@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050324063736.42941.qmail@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4245E044.4010609@cha.forthnet.gr> Greetings Rathi , I have successfully configured a Pinnacle Studio PCTV with Redhat 7.3 First of all don't let Kudzu to do anything with your Pinnacle Card . The best thing he can do is create a mess . Rathi Devi V wrote: > Hello, > I need to install a tv tuner card (pinnacle PCTV > stereo) on RH9.0. can someone suggest me how i cud do > that. The card is not listed when i give lspci .. What is the output of the "lspci -vv " ? . This is the output of my Card . 00:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture (rev 12) Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- I tried to probe the card it with modprobe bttv and it > failed saying insmod failed.even after specifying the > card option. What was the error message saying ? > thanks in advance > rathi From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Mon Mar 28 14:40:26 2005 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 28 Mar 2005 14:40:26 -0000 Subject: changing from Half Duplex to Full Duplex Message-ID: <20050328144026.29829.qmail@webmail31.rediffmail.com> Hello, I am running RHAS 2.1 and I see the network interface is started in Half Duplex mode in the /var/log/messages. How do I verify this ? "ndd" does not seem to be supported in Linux. I tried looking into "/proc/sys/net/ipv4" and I did not find anything that tells me in which mode the interface is running. Also I want to know how do I change to FULL Duplex mode. Your response and suggestions are highly appreciated. Thanks in Advance, TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy1200 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 16:53:59 2005 From: randy1200 at yahoo.com (Bone Randy) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:53:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: tftp again Message-ID: <20050328165359.11949.qmail@web54307.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for the previous response. Every attempt to get a file from my server using tftp fails with "Transfer timed out." I've installed tftp-0.39-1.i386.rpm, and checked the tftp box in the System Settings->Server Settings->Services dialog. I've also install the bootparamd-0.17-17.i386.rpm package, and added ALL: ALL: ALLOW as the only entry to my hosts.allow file. When I try the following commands, everything stops and starts okay: /sbin/service dhcpd restart /sbin/service nfs restart Any ideas on what to check next? Thanks, Randy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 28 16:54:26 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:54:26 -0800 Subject: changing from Half Duplex to Full Duplex In-Reply-To: <20050328144026.29829.qmail@webmail31.rediffmail.com> References: <20050328144026.29829.qmail@webmail31.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <424836C2.70402@vitalstream.com> Tech Guy wrote: > Hello, > > I am running RHAS 2.1 and I see the network interface is started in Half > Duplex mode in the /var/log/messages. How do I verify this ? "ndd" does > not seem to be supported in Linux. I tried looking into > "/proc/sys/net/ipv4" and I did not find anything that tells me in which > mode the interface is running. Try "mii-tool eth0" for status. > Also I want to know how do I change to FULL Duplex mode. Try "mii-tool -F 100baseTx-FD eth0". See "man mii-tool" for details. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rbj2 at oak.njit.edu Mon Mar 28 16:55:56 2005 From: rbj2 at oak.njit.edu (Rahul Jain) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:55:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: changing from Half Duplex to Full Duplex In-Reply-To: <20050328144026.29829.qmail@webmail31.rediffmail.com> References: <20050328144026.29829.qmail@webmail31.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: you can try using mii-tool. It will list the status of all the intf. You can also use it to change intf. parameters. -- Rahul. On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Tech Guy wrote: > Hello, I am running RHAS 2.1 and I see the network interface is started in Half Duplex mode in the /var/log/messages. How do I verify this ? "ndd" does not seem to be supported in Linux. I tried looking into "/proc/sys/net/ipv4" and I did not find anything that tells me in which mode the interface is running. Also I want to know how do I change to FULL Duplex mode. Your response and suggestions are highly appreciated. Thanks in Advance, TG From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 28 17:18:09 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:18:09 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05032613253d5f93d6@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05032517001d0a2e2e@mail.gmail.com> <001c01c531a3$40713b40$4901a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b05032613253d5f93d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42483C51.6060000@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:29:27 -0600, Otto Haliburton > wrote: > >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht at gmail.com] >>>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:01 PM >>>To: Otto Haliburton >>>Cc: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>Subject: Re: What's required to make wireless reliable? >>> >>>On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:24:33 -0600, Otto Haliburton >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht at gmail.com] >>>>>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 6:14 PM >>>>>To: Otto Haliburton >>>>>Cc: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>>Subject: Re: What's required to make wireless reliable? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>I've moved the router to all the convienient places. It got >>>>>>>significantly better, but not nearly good enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks Otto! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Cheers, >>>>>>>Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't think it has to be metal to work, in fact I am sure it does >>> >>>not >>> >>>>>and >>>>> >>>>>>move it vertical also, I mean to a higher location and I also have >>> >>>heard >>> >>>>>>that some brands are not as good as others so you might use the old >>> >>>Frys >>> >>>>>15 >>>>> >>>>>>day money back thing and try a different brand to see if it is >>> >>>better. >>> >>>>>> >>>>>I'm trying to set up my laptop with ndiswrapper so I can run around >>>>>the house and do some tests. How do I change the default routes to >>>>>stop it from using the eth0 as the default route and make it use >>>>>wlan0? >>>>> >>>>>I.e. - currently uses eth0 to get to the gateway and I want it to use >>>>>wlan0? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks, >>>>>Mark >>>> >>>>I think you go to either system or system utilities and there is a >>> >>>network >>> >>>>device under there and you can change it there. I am currently under xp >>> >>>and >>> >>>>I can't tell you exactly, but you will see it in the menu and you can >>> >>>use >>> >>>>its help to see how to use it. Better still just google wlan0 it might >>> >>>help >>> >>>>better with the problem you are having. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Well I figured out that I can do >>> >>>ifdown eth0 >>>route del eth0 >>>ifup wlan0 >>>route add default gw Netgear >>> >>>I can switch to wlan0 and it works. Actually I'm sending this from the >>>laptop using wireless. >>> >>>However it's sort of strange but the results from iwlist wlan0 scan >>>are not valid unless I do ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0. Unless I do that >>>the value stays the same no matter where I am in the house. That is a bit strange. I have found that the order in which things are fed to iwconfig is significant. It may be that the script sets things in a manner that causes problems. The /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless script sets up the wireless stuff in this order: mode nickname network ID (wireless domain) frequency/channel (if mode is Ad-hoc) sensitivity rate WEP key RTS/CTS frag ESSID >>>-13db 12" from the router >>>-36db here at my desk >>>-50db in my son's room >>>-63db in my wife's office >>>-63db in the kitchen >> >>well, I am surprised that there is that much difference in the values, I >>would have expected them to be approximately the same because of the >>relative small distance from the router, but you are getting some type of >>interference from something in your house. To me the relative signal >>strength should be approximately equal since there should be nothing >>interfering with the signal. If you were outside then it would be a >>different situation, cause the signal can ride on electrical wires and other >>stuff so it would be stronger in certain areas than others. What would be >>curious if you left your laptop do the processing you were doing in the room >>with the router and see if it ever dropped reception. If you assume that >>the router is always putting out a signal at the same level then everything >>that is 15 feet from the router should have the same db level then if you >>move to 25 feet then those should be the same etc. in a perfect world, but >>obviously something is causing a drop depending on where you are in your >>house, unfortunately you don't have the equipment to locate exactly what it >>is. But now that I look at the figures the relative strength in your son, >>wife's office and kitchen are actually pretty close and your office is >>obviously closer to the router. Now that I look at it I don't see a >>problem, probably something for Rick or a wireless forum to discuss. >> > > > -13db 12" from the router > -36db here at my desk > My desk is in the same room as the router but on the other side of the > bed. Approximately 14 feet east of the router. > > -50db in my son's room > This machine is 14 feet east and 10 feet south of the router. Go > through 1 wall to get to this machine. > > -63db in my wife's office > This machine is approximately 35 feet south of the router. The signal > either goes through 3 walls or goes outside through a window and then > back in through another window to where my wife's desk is. > > -73db in the kitchen > This is 14 feet east and 55 feet south of the router. The signal most > probably goes through 4 or 5 walls to get here. > > Keep in mind that power drop on any signal from a point source drops > as r-cubed. There is nothing between the 12" measurement and the 14 > foot measurement. Uh, isn't that "r squared"? I can't recall my power calculation stuff. Decibels (dB) is a logarithmic measurement as well, so things may look a bit weird. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - "I understand Windows 2000 has a Y2K problem." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 18:53:22 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:53:22 -0800 Subject: Unresolvable chain of dependencies Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05032810537d8f333c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, For the last week or so I've had a blinking red exclamation mark on our three machines here. When I try to run the Redhat Updater it eventually comes back and says: There was a package dependency problem. Message was: Unresolvable chain of dependencies: mozilla-1.7.6-1.2.2 requires desktop-file-utils >= 0.9 Please modify your package selections and try again. This seems to happen whether I choose to update Mozilla or not. 1) Is anyone else seeing this? 2) How to fix? Thanks, Mark From Albert.Smith at genexservices.com Mon Mar 28 18:54:15 2005 From: Albert.Smith at genexservices.com (Smith, Albert) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:54:15 -0500 Subject: tftp again Message-ID: <462170B0EBFCFE4AB1E54ED8C269A5BCEBACC1@PHLVEXCH01.genexservices.com> Do a chkconfig and see if tftp is enabled if it isn't enable and recycle you're your Xinetd daemon. Then make sure files are in /tftpboot to be downloaded. Albert Smith Sr. Unix Systems Administrator HPCSA, RHCT Genex Services 440 E. Swedesford Rd. Wayne, PA 19087 albert.smith at genexservices.com (610) 964-5154 > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Bone Randy > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:54 AM > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Subject: tftp again > > Thanks for the previous response. > > Every attempt to get a file from my server using tftp fails > with "Transfer timed out." > > I've installed tftp-0.39-1.i386.rpm, and checked the tftp box > in the System Settings->Server > Settings->Services dialog. > > I've also install the bootparamd-0.17-17.i386.rpm package, > and added ALL: ALL: ALLOW as the only entry to my hosts.allow file. > > When I try the following commands, everything stops and starts okay: > > /sbin/service dhcpd restart > /sbin/service nfs restart > > Any ideas on what to check next? > > Thanks, > Randy > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 19:04:14 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:04:14 -0800 Subject: What's required to make wireless reliable? In-Reply-To: <42483C51.6060000@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05032517001d0a2e2e@mail.gmail.com> <001c01c531a3$40713b40$4901a8c0@C515816A> <5bdc1c8b05032613253d5f93d6@mail.gmail.com> <42483C51.6060000@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050328110474a790f7@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:18:09 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:29:27 -0600, Otto Haliburton > >>> > >>>However it's sort of strange but the results from iwlist wlan0 scan > >>>are not valid unless I do ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0. Unless I do that > >>>the value stays the same no matter where I am in the house. > > That is a bit strange. Yes, it is, and it only happens on my laptop with is using one of the Broadcom chips. On my wife's machine and my son's machine, both of which use the same D-Link boards, each iwlist command gives me updated values. They don't vary much, but they do move around by 1 or 2 db. > I have found that the order in which things are > fed to iwconfig is significant. It may be that the script sets things > in a manner that causes problems. The > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless script sets up the > wireless stuff in this order: I'll have to look at the scripts I have here. Thanks! > > mode > nickname > network ID (wireless domain) > frequency/channel (if mode is Ad-hoc) > sensitivity > rate > WEP key > RTS/CTS > frag > ESSID > > > > Uh, isn't that "r squared"? I can't recall my power calculation stuff. > Decibels (dB) is a logarithmic measurement as well, so things may look > a bit weird. Yeah, you're probably right, but I was thinking that r-squared was from a line source and r-cubed was from a point source but looking up equations quickly proved me wrong. Sorry! - Mark From john.morfit at ericsson.com Mon Mar 28 19:32:08 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:32:08 -0600 Subject: Cannot read install screens Message-ID: Hi, I'm performing an install of RHEL 4.0 upon a Dell Inspiron 5160 from CD's. Unfortunately, the color mapping on the display is bad and I cannot read anything (kind of essential to the process). How can I remap the display colors during install? Thanks, /John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 28 19:55:42 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:55:42 -0800 Subject: Unresolvable chain of dependencies In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b05032810537d8f333c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05032810537d8f333c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4248613E.4040806@vitalstream.com> Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > For the last week or so I've had a blinking red exclamation mark on > our three machines here. When I try to run the Redhat Updater it > eventually comes back and says: > > There was a package dependency problem. Message was: > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > mozilla-1.7.6-1.2.2 requires desktop-file-utils >= 0.9 > > Please modify your package selections and try again. > > This seems to happen whether I choose to update Mozilla or not. > > 1) Is anyone else seeing this? There's a thread on fedora-list about it. The Fedora gang mistakenly put FC3's dependency list on the FC2 mozilla RPM. That's supposed to be rectified now but your mirrors may not yet have it. > 2) How to fix? Wait for your mirror to update or go fetch it specifically off the Red Hat Fedora repository. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - This message printed using recycled bandwidth - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 28 20:00:01 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:00:01 -0800 Subject: Cannot read install screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42486241.3060302@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > Hi, > > I'm performing an install of RHEL 4.0 upon a Dell Inspiron 5160 from > CD's. Unfortunately, the color mapping on the display is bad and I > cannot read anything (kind of essential to the process). > > How can I remap the display colors during install? You really can't. The installer uses a pretty simplistic 8-bit 640x480 VGA resolution. Almost any CRT/video card should be able to handle it. The only times I've seen something like what you're seeing fell into one of these categories: a) a bad CRT cable or one that wasn't plugged in well; b) a bad CRT gun; c) a bad video card or one that wasn't seated well in its slot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.morfit at ericsson.com Mon Mar 28 20:03:03 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:03:03 -0600 Subject: Cannot read install screens Message-ID: OK, I've found the work-around: Linux Text install option. It's a laptop, works fine with WinXP, so it's not a cable issue. I can see that the Linux installer finds "unknown monitor" and "generic VESA video driver". Thanks, /john -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:00 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Cannot read install screens John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > Hi, > > I'm performing an install of RHEL 4.0 upon a Dell Inspiron 5160 from > CD's. Unfortunately, the color mapping on the display is bad and I > cannot read anything (kind of essential to the process). > > How can I remap the display colors during install? You really can't. The installer uses a pretty simplistic 8-bit 640x480 VGA resolution. Almost any CRT/video card should be able to handle it. The only times I've seen something like what you're seeing fell into one of these categories: a) a bad CRT cable or one that wasn't plugged in well; b) a bad CRT gun; c) a bad video card or one that wasn't seated well in its slot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 28 20:12:06 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:12:06 -0800 Subject: Cannot read install screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42486516.3070601@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > OK, I've found the work-around: Linux Text install option. > It's a laptop, works fine with WinXP, so it's not a cable issue. > I can see that the Linux installer finds "unknown monitor" and "generic VESA video driver". Ah. Yes, sometimes laptops have issues--specially with nVidia chipsets. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:00 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: Cannot read install screens > > > John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I'm performing an install of RHEL 4.0 upon a Dell Inspiron 5160 from >>CD's. Unfortunately, the color mapping on the display is bad and I >>cannot read anything (kind of essential to the process). >> >>How can I remap the display colors during install? > > > You really can't. The installer uses a pretty simplistic 8-bit 640x480 > VGA resolution. Almost any CRT/video card should be able to handle it. > > The only times I've seen something like what you're seeing fell into > one of these categories: a) a bad CRT cable or one that wasn't plugged > in well; b) a bad CRT gun; c) a bad video card or one that wasn't seated > well in its slot. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - > - - > - Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward getting - > - medicated for it. -- Jim Evarts (http://www.TopFive.com) - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Do you know how to save five drowning lawyers? No? GOOD! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 21:44:15 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:44:15 -0800 Subject: Unresolvable chain of dependencies In-Reply-To: <4248613E.4040806@vitalstream.com> References: <5bdc1c8b05032810537d8f333c@mail.gmail.com> <4248613E.4040806@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b050328134425c78f4f@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:55:42 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > > For the last week or so I've had a blinking red exclamation mark on > > our three machines here. When I try to run the Redhat Updater it > > eventually comes back and says: > > > > There was a package dependency problem. Message was: > > > > Unresolvable chain of dependencies: > > mozilla-1.7.6-1.2.2 requires desktop-file-utils >= 0.9 > > > > Please modify your package selections and try again. > > > > This seems to happen whether I choose to update Mozilla or not. > > > > 1) Is anyone else seeing this? > > There's a thread on fedora-list about it. The Fedora gang mistakenly > put FC3's dependency list on the FC2 mozilla RPM. That's supposed to > be rectified now but your mirrors may not yet have it. > > > 2) How to fix? > > Wait for your mirror to update or go fetch it specifically off the > Red Hat Fedora repository. Thanks Rick. I'll just wait for it to resolve over the next few days, hopefully. cheers, Mark From john.morfit at ericsson.com Mon Mar 28 22:27:29 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:27:29 -0600 Subject: Partitioning for dual-boot WinXP-Linux Message-ID: > Can RHEL 4.0 WS be installed upon an extended partition (non-Primary)? I need to be able to create sub-partitions, e.g. for \osshare. > > Current partitions: Linux root partition: Primary, Linux Ext3, 35.19 GB Linux swap partition: Primary, Linux swap, 1024 MB Windows XP partition: Primary, NTFS, 19.53 GB Linux boot partition: Primary, Linux Ext3, 62 MB (contains GRUB) > Can I do this, if I reinstall? Linux root partition: Extended > \: Linux Ext3 > \usr Linux Ext3 > \osshare FAT Linux swap partition: Primary, Linux swap, 1024 MB Windows XP partition: Primary, NTFS, 19.53 GB Linux boot partition: Primary, Linux Ext3, 62 MB (contains GRUB) > Thanks, > /John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Mon Mar 28 22:51:57 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:51:57 -0800 Subject: Partitioning for dual-boot WinXP-Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42488A8D.5060207@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > Can RHEL 4.0 WS be installed upon an extended partition (non-Primary)? > I need to be able to create sub-partitions, e.g. for \osshare. > > Current partitions: > Linux root partition: Primary, Linux Ext3, 35.19 GB > Linux swap partition: Primary, Linux swap, 1024 MB > Windows XP partition: Primary, NTFS, 19.53 GB > Linux boot partition: Primary, Linux Ext3, 62 MB (contains GRUB) > > Can I do this, if I reinstall? > Linux root partition: Extended > \: Linux Ext3 > \usr Linux Ext3 > \osshare FAT > Linux swap partition: Primary, Linux swap, 1024 MB > Windows XP partition: Primary, NTFS, 19.53 GB > Linux boot partition: Primary, Linux Ext3, 62 MB (contains GRUB) Certainly. Any Linux partition can reside in an extended partition. If you check the disk using Linux' fdisk, any partitions with a number 5 or greater (e.g. /dev/hda5) are partitions inside the extended partition. In fact, my laptop (which dual-boots XP and Linux but runs Linux 95% of the time) has this partition table: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 13 3964 31744408+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 3965 7296 26764290 5 Extended /dev/hda3 1 12 96358+ 83 Linux /dev/hda5 3965 4486 4192933+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda6 4487 6904 19422553+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7 6905 6969 522081 83 Linux /dev/hda8 6970 7034 522081 82 Linux swap /dev/hda9 7035 7295 2096451 83 Linux /dev/hda1 is XP, /dev/hda2 is the extended partition, /dev/hda3 is Linux' /boot. The rest of the partitions are inside /dev/hda2 and are as follows: /dev/hda5 FAT32 partition shared between Linux and XP /dev/hda6 Linux' /usr /dev/hda7 Linux' / (root partition) /dev/hda8 Linux' swap partition /dev/hda9 Linux' /var ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Warning: You are logged into reality as the root user... - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From roland at cat.be Tue Mar 29 08:31:53 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:31:53 +0200 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <42430103.20108@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <025f01c53439$c3288500$e70ff80a@pccat03> roland brouwers wrote: > I have a server with FD3 > I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. > We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe > Everything goes well with XP and W98 > With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of > lastlogin > If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. > I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has > no firewall. > What does Me that XP an W98 don't? First off, using telnet is a bad idea as it is completely insecure (everything including passwords are sent in cleartext). This isn't an issue if your network has no gateway to the internet, but I'd highly recommend you stop using telnet and use ssh. There are a number of free ssh clients for Windows, the most popular being "putty". Do a google search for that, install it and use it. Disable telnet completely. Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get you the prompt. Can you fix it? Probably not. ----march 29 I am using telnet because I have to use a particular emulator that cannot do ssh. I am sorry to. The "Enter" does not work. It must be something els. Why does W98 does it and not ME? From roland at cat.be Tue Mar 29 17:23:00 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:23:00 +0200 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <42430103.20108@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <003a01c53483$f536b310$7a0101c0@pccat03> roland brouwers wrote: > I have a server with FD3 > I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. > We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe > Everything goes well with XP and W98 > With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of > lastlogin > If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. > I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has > no firewall. > What does Me that XP an W98 don't? First off, using telnet is a bad idea as it is completely insecure (everything including passwords are sent in cleartext). This isn't an issue if your network has no gateway to the internet, but I'd highly recommend you stop using telnet and use ssh. There are a number of free ssh clients for Windows, the most popular being "putty". Do a google search for that, install it and use it. Disable telnet completely. Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get you the prompt. Can you fix it? Probably not. ---------------------------------------------------> As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It is like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are waiting on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations that hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? I replaced WinME with XP, but the same problem stays. I thought it was Norton, so I deinstalled it. But nothing happened. I worked for months to convince the client to change from Winserver to Linux and now I am stucked. Has anyone some brillant idea or something that is near to brillant. Thanks for your thoughts. roland From john.morfit at ericsson.com Tue Mar 29 17:32:03 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:32:03 -0600 Subject: Partitioning for dual-boot WinXP-Linux Message-ID: Thanks Rick, that worked for me! /John -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:52 PM To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux Subject: Re: Partitioning for dual-boot WinXP-Linux John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > Can RHEL 4.0 WS be installed upon an extended partition (non-Primary)? Certainly. Any Linux partition can reside in an extended partition. From john.morfit at ericsson.com Tue Mar 29 17:36:53 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:36:53 -0600 Subject: RPM install file conflict Message-ID: I'm now trying to install a display adapter driver RPM, unsuccessfully: rpm -Uvh xgi_v3_rh9_xf430_1.0.2_i386.rpm Preparing.... ######################### [100%] file /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o from install of xgi_v3_rh9-1.0-2 conflicts with file from package xorg-x11-6.8.1-23.EL What to do? I tried renaming the old trident_drv.o file to old_trident_drv.old, but I get the same error. I tried rpm -ivh..... Same error. Regards, /John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tpotter at techmarin.com Tue Mar 29 17:55:19 2005 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:55:19 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <003a01c53483$f536b310$7a0101c0@pccat03> References: <003a01c53483$f536b310$7a0101c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <1112118919.3319.73.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: > roland brouwers wrote: > > I have a server with FD3 > > I want to telnet from the workstations to this server. > > We have WS with Xppro, Win98 an WinMe > > Everything goes well with XP and W98 > > With WinMe, the workstation hangs after login and the display of > > lastlogin > > If I enter Ctrl+C, I get into the shell and I can continue manually. > > I don't find any firewall on the pc's. I disabled Norton virus, it has > > no firewall. > > What does Me that XP an W98 don't? > > First off, using telnet is a bad idea as it is completely insecure > (everything including passwords are sent in cleartext). This isn't an > issue if your network has no gateway to the internet, but I'd highly > recommend you stop using telnet and use ssh. There are a number of free > ssh clients for Windows, the most popular being "putty". Do a google > search for that, install it and use it. Disable telnet completely. > > Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the > terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a > login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the > first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet > that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get > you the prompt. > > Can you fix it? Probably not. > ---------------------------------------------------> > As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It is > like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are waiting > on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations that > hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? > I replaced WinME with XP, but the same problem stays. > I thought it was Norton, so I deinstalled it. But nothing happened. > > I worked for months to convince the client to change from Winserver to > Linux and now I am stucked. > > Has anyone some brillant idea or something that is near to brillant. > > Thanks for your thoughts. > roland > It's beginning to sound more like a network issue. Or perhaps the telnet server has a limit to the number of connections it allows. I note that first we thought XP and 98 worked but now it seems all clients are having the issue. Someone with more experience in networking than I should jump in, but first things first. Test for dropped packets with a ping test from the client. Inspect your physical connections. Telnet from a windows machine to a *nix machine is nothing new so we are not inventing the wheel here. Oh yes, please do use puty. It is your friend. I am sure there is a way to log the events on the server side but what that is I do not know now. hth Ted From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 29 18:18:02 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:18:02 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <1112118919.3319.73.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> References: <003a01c53483$f536b310$7a0101c0@pccat03> <1112118919.3319.73.camel@interjet.techmarin.com> Message-ID: <42499BDA.3050808@vitalstream.com> Ted Potter wrote: > On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: [snip] >>Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the >>terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a >>login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the >>first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet >>that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get >>you the prompt. >> >>Can you fix it? Probably not. >>As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It is >>like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are waiting >>on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations that >>hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? It's "PacMan" (no "k"). :-) First, let's do some preliminary stuff. Get on the Linux machine and do some network probing. Start out with "netstat -an | grep :23" to see how many current telnet sessions you have running. By default, you're limited to 60 concurrent connetions. Next, by default, the system will try to log the remote hostname. If your DNS isn't doing reverse lookups or you don't have the Windows boxes' IP addresses and hostnames in the Linux server's /etc/hosts file, the system will wait for DNS to time out before allowing the session to continue. Ok, how to fix? Well, if you have more than 60 concurrent sessions, you have to ask yourself if that's a legitimate use (60 telnet sessions is a LOT, but it depends on your usage). If you need more, you need to go into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the "telnet" file. If you need, say, 100 concurrent telnet sessions, add in a line that reads: instances = 100 If you are having DNS issues, you can disable DNS-related things by changing the line: log_on_failure += USERID to: log_on_failure = Also, add a line: log_on_success -= HOST If you started with the original /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file, it should look sort of like this after all the editing: # default: on # description: The telnet server serves telnet sessions; it uses \ # unencrypted username/password pairs for authentication. service telnet { disable = no instances = 100 flags = REUSE socket_type = stream wait = no user = root server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd log_on_failure = log_on_success -= HOST } Once you're done with editing the file, save it and execute: /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart to make xinetd use the new data. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say... oh, somewhere in there. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 29 18:20:06 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:20:06 -0800 Subject: Partitioning for dual-boot WinXP-Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42499C56.8040206@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >>> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >>> >>>Can RHEL 4.0 WS be installed upon an extended partition (non-Primary)? >>> >>> >> Certainly. Any Linux partition can reside in an extended partition. > Thanks Rick, that worked for me! Glad to hear it, John. By the way, we kinda prefer bottom posting here. I reformatted the message to reflect that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 29 18:23:08 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:23:08 -0800 Subject: RPM install file conflict In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42499D0C.5020203@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > I'm now trying to install a display adapter driver RPM, unsuccessfully: > > rpm -Uvh xgi_v3_rh9_xf430_1.0.2_i386.rpm > Preparing.... ######################### [100%] > file /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o from install > of xgi_v3_rh9-1.0-2 conflicts with file from package xorg-x11-6.8.1-23.EL > > What to do? Uh the driver you're trying to install is older than the one that RHEL4 installed and it's not compatible with a 2.6 kernel. Is there a reason you want the older driver? > I tried renaming the old trident_drv.o file to old_trident_drv.old, but > I get the same error. > I tried rpm -ivh..... Same error. Yes, because you're trying to install an older driver. Remember that Red Hat 9 used a 2.4 kernel and XFree86 for X-Windows. RHEL4 uses a 2.6 kernel and Xorg's X-Windows. They are totally different animals. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.morfit at ericsson.com Tue Mar 29 18:57:05 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:57:05 -0600 Subject: RPM install file conflict Message-ID: > John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > > I'm now trying to install a display adapter driver RPM, > unsuccessfully: > > > > rpm -Uvh xgi_v3_rh9_xf430_1.0.2_i386.rpm > > Preparing.... ######################### [100%] > > file /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o > from install > > of xgi_v3_rh9-1.0-2 conflicts with file from package > xorg-x11-6.8.1-23.EL > > > > What to do? > > Uh the driver you're trying to install is older than the one > that RHEL4 > installed and it's not compatible with a 2.6 kernel. Is > there a reason > you want the older driver? > > > I tried renaming the old trident_drv.o file to > old_trident_drv.old, but > > I get the same error. > > I tried rpm -ivh..... Same error. > > Yes, because you're trying to install an older driver. Remember that > Red Hat 9 used a 2.4 kernel and XFree86 for X-Windows. RHEL4 > uses a 2.6 > kernel and Xorg's X-Windows. They are totally different animals. Ooh! I have an unsupported display adapter that's giving me visual fits (XGI Volari-XP5). I found some web pages that recommended using the Volari V3 RPM for RH9 to get the Volari-XP5 running (neither Dell nor XGI have released any Linux drivers for the Volari-XP5). Hmmm... Can I somehow edit an Xorg X11 configuration file to direct it to the existing RHEL4 trident_drv.o? Thanks, /John From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 19:18:40 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:18:40 -0800 Subject: gdm -nolisten tcp Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b0503291118317a77fc@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm fiddling with remotely running complete Gnome sessions on a second display. I have a suspicion that the gdm option -nolisten tcp is getting in my way. [root at Godzilla root]# ps aux | grep dm root 2097 0.0 0.0 1464 552 ? S 07:27 0:00 rpc.idmapd root 2951 0.0 0.2 10536 2100 ? S 07:28 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon root 3108 0.0 0.3 11096 2892 ? S 07:28 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon root 3119 1.6 3.6 30320 28036 ? S 07:28 3:39 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 root 13269 0.0 0.0 3588 616 pts/1 S 11:15 0:00 grep dm [root at Godzilla root]# If this is possibly stopping me from remotely displaying apps and sessions on display :1 then how do I reconfigure gdm to actually listen? Thanks, Mark From markknecht at gmail.com Tue Mar 29 19:38:55 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:38:55 -0800 Subject: gdm -nolisten tcp In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0503291118317a77fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b0503291118317a77fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05032911381625460b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:18:40 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, > I'm fiddling with remotely running complete Gnome sessions on a > second display. I have a suspicion that the gdm option -nolisten tcp > is getting in my way. > > [root at Godzilla root]# ps aux | grep dm > root 2097 0.0 0.0 1464 552 ? S 07:27 0:00 rpc.idmapd > root 2951 0.0 0.2 10536 2100 ? S 07:28 0:00 > /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon > root 3108 0.0 0.3 11096 2892 ? S 07:28 0:00 > /usr/bin/gdm-binary -nodaemon > root 3119 1.6 3.6 30320 28036 ? S 07:28 3:39 > /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 > root 13269 0.0 0.0 3588 616 pts/1 S 11:15 0:00 grep dm > [root at Godzilla root]# > > If this is possibly stopping me from remotely displaying apps and > sessions on display :1 then how do I reconfigure gdm to actually > listen? > > Thanks, > Mark > Sorry for replying o myself here. A bit more into: I did some Googling and it seemed to suggest that I should look at /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and make sure that DisallowTCP=true is commented out. Actually in my file that is already commented out so I'm wondering if this is the right config file. It is the only one I find with slocate. Is there some other config file on FC2 that effects this sort of thing? Maybe it's somethign completely different though. [mark at Godzilla mark]$ xeyes [mark at Godzilla mark]$ xeyes -display :0 [mark at Godzilla mark]$ xeyes -display :0.0 [mark at Godzilla mark]$ xeyes -display :1 Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :1 [mark at Godzilla mark]$ As I understand this protocol using :1.0 or :0.0 is local communication while Godzilla:1.0 would be tcpip based. If that's true I cannot even start an app from display :0 on display :1 locally! Thanks in advance, Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 29 20:19:15 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:19:15 -0800 Subject: RPM install file conflict In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4249B843.3000301@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >>John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >> >>>I'm now trying to install a display adapter driver RPM, >> >>unsuccessfully: >> >>>rpm -Uvh xgi_v3_rh9_xf430_1.0.2_i386.rpm >>>Preparing.... ######################### [100%] >>> file /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o >> >>from install >> >>>of xgi_v3_rh9-1.0-2 conflicts with file from package >> >>xorg-x11-6.8.1-23.EL >> >>>What to do? >> >>Uh the driver you're trying to install is older than the one >>that RHEL4 >>installed and it's not compatible with a 2.6 kernel. Is >>there a reason >>you want the older driver? >> >> >>>I tried renaming the old trident_drv.o file to >> >>old_trident_drv.old, but >> >>>I get the same error. >>>I tried rpm -ivh..... Same error. >> >>Yes, because you're trying to install an older driver. Remember that >>Red Hat 9 used a 2.4 kernel and XFree86 for X-Windows. RHEL4 >>uses a 2.6 >>kernel and Xorg's X-Windows. They are totally different animals. > > > Ooh! I have an unsupported display adapter that's giving me visual fits (XGI Volari-XP5). I found some web pages that recommended using the Volari V3 RPM for RH9 to get the Volari-XP5 running (neither Dell nor XGI have released any Linux drivers for the Volari-XP5). > > Hmmm... Can I somehow edit an Xorg X11 configuration file to direct it to the existing RHEL4 trident_drv.o? You could edit it, but the RH9 driver is unusable. The internal structure of kernel modules between 2.4 and 2.6 is radically different and completely incompatible. In fact, 2.6 kernel modules have the ".ko" suffix to make sure they're differentiated from old 2.4 modules (with the ".o" suffix). I'd recommend you get a newer video card if you can. If the video is built into your motherboard, I'd still try to get an AGP or even a PCI card to replace it and see if you can disable the on-board video in your BIOS. If you're truly stuck with that hardware, my guess is that the vesa driver would work, but it'll limit you to an 800x600 non-accelerated display at best. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - There are only 10 kinds of people in the world -- those who - - understand binary and those who don't - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.morfit at ericsson.com Tue Mar 29 21:19:30 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:19:30 -0600 Subject: Volari-XP Display Driver (was RPM install file conflict) Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:19 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: RPM install file conflict > > > John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > >John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: > > > > Ooh! I have an unsupported display adapter that's giving me > visual fits (XGI Volari-XP5). I found some web pages that > recommended using the Volari V3 RPM for RH9 to get the > Volari-XP5 running (neither Dell nor XGI have released any > Linux drivers for the Volari-XP5). > > > > Hmmm... Can I somehow edit an Xorg X11 configuration file > to direct it to the existing RHEL4 trident_drv.o? > > You could edit it, but the RH9 driver is unusable. The internal > structure of kernel modules between 2.4 and 2.6 is radically different > and completely incompatible. In fact, 2.6 kernel modules > have the ".ko" > suffix to make sure they're differentiated from old 2.4 modules (with > the ".o" suffix). > > I'd recommend you get a newer video card if you can. If the video is > built into your motherboard, I'd still try to get an AGP or even a PCI > card to replace it and see if you can disable the on-board > video in your > BIOS. If you're truly stuck with that hardware, my guess is that the > vesa driver would work, but it'll limit you to an 800x600 > non-accelerated display at best. > > I'm sorry I can't be of more help. Rick, You've provided some ideas (not sure if I can implement them or not), for which I'm thankful. Yes, the VESA 800x600 driver was auto-installed and provides weird, very hard to read colors. It also implemented 29 lines of display area in SH while only showing 25 lines. Very hard to use! I squinted really hard, and edited anaconda-ks.cfg to provide VESA generic with 1024x768 resolution and 24 bit color depth. I also selected the Trident CyberbladeXP driver in the Applications>System Settings>Display>Hardware>Video Card. Then I logged out. Startx failed, so I delected xorg.conf and restored the backup. Now with startx, I get proper colors! Go figure. And SH has 25 lines displayed & implemented (I can use Emacs properly!). Thanks, /John From rstevens at vitalstream.com Tue Mar 29 21:50:30 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:50:30 -0800 Subject: Volari-XP Display Driver (was RPM install file conflict) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4249CDA6.9000709@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >>[mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:19 PM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: RPM install file conflict >> >> >>John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >> >>>John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >>> >>>Ooh! I have an unsupported display adapter that's giving me >> >>visual fits (XGI Volari-XP5). I found some web pages that >>recommended using the Volari V3 RPM for RH9 to get the >>Volari-XP5 running (neither Dell nor XGI have released any >>Linux drivers for the Volari-XP5). >> >>>Hmmm... Can I somehow edit an Xorg X11 configuration file >> >>to direct it to the existing RHEL4 trident_drv.o? >> >>You could edit it, but the RH9 driver is unusable. The internal >>structure of kernel modules between 2.4 and 2.6 is radically different >>and completely incompatible. In fact, 2.6 kernel modules >>have the ".ko" >>suffix to make sure they're differentiated from old 2.4 modules (with >>the ".o" suffix). >> >>I'd recommend you get a newer video card if you can. If the video is >>built into your motherboard, I'd still try to get an AGP or even a PCI >>card to replace it and see if you can disable the on-board >>video in your >>BIOS. If you're truly stuck with that hardware, my guess is that the >>vesa driver would work, but it'll limit you to an 800x600 >>non-accelerated display at best. >> >>I'm sorry I can't be of more help. > > > Rick, > You've provided some ideas (not sure if I can implement them or not), for which I'm thankful. "Even a blind pig finds the occasional truffle." :-) > Yes, the VESA 800x600 driver was auto-installed and provides weird, very hard to read colors. It also implemented 29 lines of display area in SH while only showing 25 lines. Very hard to use! Sounds like it picked up a bad mode when it probed your monitor. That's a common-enough occurance. > I squinted really hard, and edited anaconda-ks.cfg to provide VESA generic with 1024x768 resolution and 24 bit color depth. I also selected the Trident CyberbladeXP driver in the Applications>System Settings>Display>Hardware>Video Card. Then I logged out. Startx failed, so I delected xorg.conf and restored the backup. A hint: While looking at the GUI screen, "CTRL-ALT-F1" through "CTRL-ALT-F6" will get you to a standard text mode command line login. There are six of them and then correspond to the six virtual consoles. Also, while looking at the GUI screen, a "CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE" will restart the X system and return you to the GUI login. When in one of the text-mode screens, holding down ALT and pressing F1 through F6 will switch you between the virtual consoles. And since the GUI runs on virtual console 7, "ALT-F7" will return you to the GUI. Neat, eh? Now you know more than you ever wanted to. > Now with startx, I get proper colors! Go figure. And SH has 25 lines displayed & implemented (I can use Emacs properly!). Yet another quote: "There are stranger things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy." And in Linux, on occasion it seems. Weird! :-p > Thanks, You're welcome, sir. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Reality: A crutch for those who can't handle science fiction - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From roland at cat.be Wed Mar 30 14:06:55 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:06:55 +0200 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <42499BDA.3050808@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <007601c53531$bb502ab0$6401a8c0@pccat03> Ted Potter wrote: > On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: [snip] >>Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the >>terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a >>login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the >>first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll bet >>that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get >>you the prompt. >> >>Can you fix it? Probably not. >>As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It is >>like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are waiting >>on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations that >>hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? It's "PacMan" (no "k"). :-) First, let's do some preliminary stuff. Get on the Linux machine and do some network probing. Start out with "netstat -an | grep :23" to see how many current telnet sessions you have running. By default, you're limited to 60 concurrent connetions. Next, by default, the system will try to log the remote hostname. If your DNS isn't doing reverse lookups or you don't have the Windows boxes' IP addresses and hostnames in the Linux server's /etc/hosts file, the system will wait for DNS to time out before allowing the session to continue. Ok, how to fix? Well, if you have more than 60 concurrent sessions, you have to ask yourself if that's a legitimate use (60 telnet sessions is a LOT, but it depends on your usage). If you need more, you need to go into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the "telnet" file. If you need, say, 100 concurrent telnet sessions, add in a line that reads: instances = 100 If you are having DNS issues, you can disable DNS-related things by changing the line: log_on_failure += USERID to: log_on_failure = Also, add a line: log_on_success -= HOST If you started with the original /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file, it should look sort of like this after all the editing: # default: on # description: The telnet server serves telnet sessions; it uses \ # unencrypted username/password pairs for authentication. service telnet { disable = no instances = 100 flags = REUSE socket_type = stream wait = no user = root server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd log_on_failure = log_on_success -= HOST } Once you're done with editing the file, save it and execute: /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart to make xinetd use the new data. ------------------------------------------------> I will continue tomorrow this installation and I have to solve it. So I have some questions: How can I know that the linuxserver is using DNS, can I trace it? The names of the workstations are not in /etc/hosts. I am using K12ltsp which fills it up automatically with some names. Do I have to empty it? If one client is going somewhere on the internet to look for the server and other clients don't, how can I trace this. The server has 2 network cards, one of them is not used at this moment, could this be a problem? I only in the testphase, so I am far away from 60 users, so this couldn't be the problem. Thanks again for any help that will get this network into discipline. roland From john.morfit at ericsson.com Wed Mar 30 15:50:20 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 09:50:20 -0600 Subject: Hints for newbie (was: Volari-XP Display Driver) Message-ID: > A hint: While looking at the GUI screen, "CTRL-ALT-F1" through > "CTRL-ALT-F6" will get you to a standard text mode command line login. > There are six of them and then correspond to the six virtual consoles. > Also, while looking at the GUI screen, a "CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE" will > restart the X system and return you to the GUI login. > > When in one of the text-mode screens, holding down ALT and pressing F1 > through F6 will switch you between the virtual consoles. And > since the > GUI runs on virtual console 7, "ALT-F7" will return you to the GUI. > Neat, eh? Now you know more than you ever wanted to. > Rick, Damn fine! As they say downunda, goodonya mate! Apparently, I can replace the video with an ATI or Nvidia. Just got to spend the $$. /John From Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com Wed Mar 30 16:47:39 2005 From: Travis.R.Waldher at boeing.com (Waldher, Travis R) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:47:39 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:31 AM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: procmailrc question > > Waldher, Travis R wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > >>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:23 PM > >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>Subject: Re: procmailrc question > >> > >>On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:02:00PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >> > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] > >>>>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM > >>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > >>>>Subject: Re: procmailrc question > >>>> > >>>>On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Ok.. good question here. > >>>>> > >>>>>If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have > > > > an > > > >>>>>invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support > >>> > >>>.procmailrc > >>> > >>>>>files for those users as procmail only appears to look at > >>>>>$HOME/.procmailrc. > >>>> > >>>>Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not > > > > /etc/.procmailrc) > > > >>>>and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be > >>>>owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). > >>>> > >>>>I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? > >>> > >>>In short, I have a mess here. > >>> > >>>We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our > > > > sendmail > > > >>>server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. > > > > But > > > >>>our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled > > > > properly. > > > >>>The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if > > > > it's > > > >>>just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. > >>> > >>>So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc > >>>(otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. > >>> > >>>Hope that made some sense. > >> > >>Hmm. Well, sendmail determines each user's HOME directory from > >>/etc/passwd. That (his HOME) is where the user's .procmailrc should > >>reside. How does that relate to the two user worlds? > > > > > > On an HP, their home directory would be /acct. > > > > On a linux box their home directory would be /acct > > > > On an SGI their home directory would be /acct > > > > The problem is, none of those are the same files system. :( > > Did you ever see my responses? I repeat: > > You can set up the "ForwardPath" option in the sendmail.cf file to give > a list of directories to search for the .forward file. For example, > this line: > > O ForwardPath=/usr/local/etc/forwards/$u.forward:$z/.forward > > If the incoming mail was for user "fred", that line would cause the > system to first look for a "/usr/local/etc/forwards/fred.forward" file > If found, it is used. If not, it tries to find a ".forward" file in > fred's home directory. The system defaults to: > > O ForwardPath=$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward > > "$z" is filled in with the user's home directory after sendmail does a > getpwent()-style call, "$w" is filled in with the host name of the > machine running sendmail. Sorry, yes, I got them and it helped. I've just been really busy and my mind is shot that and got pretty sick. I find myself forgetting more than I used to, like replying to email. *sigh* After we did this, I discovered that sendmail needed some other changes. Below are some excerpts I sent to the end users explaining why it broke and how to fix their stuff. Originally, we had "DontBlameSendmail=forwardfileinunsafedirpath" in the sendmail.cf file. While this allowed group and world writeable directories .forward files to be read. If those .forward files called a program, it wouldn't allow them to execute. So we changed it to "DontBlameSendmail=forwardfileinunsafedirpath, forwardfileinunsafedirpathsafe". This allowed the .forward file to be executed. Next step was figuring out why we still got permission errors. It turns out that even with the sendmail.cf file set properly to allow .forward to execute. Sendmail still won't execute the .procmailrc if world write is set on the file AND you aren't using the .procmail found in the $HOME directory IF the file and/or parent directory is set to 777, 775 works. Remember in LCAS2's case $HOME is acct.common, not acct.hp. Since your .procmailrc is in your acct.hp directory, you need to modify your .forward file in acct.hp to look something like this: "|/usr/bin/procmail -t -m /acct.hp//.procmailrc" The -m turns procmail in to a general mail filter. It also allows you to use any .procmailrc file you want. But that file and it's parent directory must not have world write. If they do, it won't work. Inside the .procmailrc, you need to make sure $HOME is changed to /acct.hp/username otherwise the path's won't resolve properly for those with HP accounts. From RSimioni at seisint.com Wed Mar 30 18:17:23 2005 From: RSimioni at seisint.com (Simioni, Rodney) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:17:23 -0500 Subject: Cannot exec /usr/bin/procmail Message-ID: Hello: I'm running RedHat 7.3. I get the message below once every hour and I can't seem to pinpoint where it is coming from. I have diabled sendmail, made sure its not listening to the port 25, I also have checked the cron jobs to see if anything is firing this up. Does anybody have a clue? Thanks in advance. sendmail[20633]: j2UI10i20631: SYSERR(root): Cannot exec /usr/bin/procmail: No such file or directory Rod PS: Below is a list of services I currently have running: [root at xxxx root]# chkconfig --list keytable 0:off 1:on 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off atd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off syslog 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off network 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off random 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off rawdevices 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off gmond 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off crond 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off anacron 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off ntpd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off identd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off radvd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off snmptrapd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off sshd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off apache 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:off 5:off 6:off keepalived 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off ipvsadm 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off mysql 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 30 19:20:22 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:20:22 -0800 Subject: Cannot exec /usr/bin/procmail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424AFBF6.9010803@vitalstream.com> Simioni, Rodney wrote: > Hello: > > I?m running RedHat 7.3. I get the message below once every hour and I > can?t seem to pinpoint where it is coming from. I have diabled sendmail, > made sure its not listening to the port 25, I also have checked the cron > jobs to see if anything is firing this up. Does anybody have a clue? > Thanks in advance. It's undoubtedly one of the anacron jobs that's trying to send root the results of one of its jobs. My guess is that it's the diskcheck routine (launched via /etc/cron.hourly/diskcheck). You can stop it by: 1. Commenting out the line in /etc/crontab that runs it, OR 2. Commenting out the "MAILTO" line in /etc/crontab, OR 3. Install the procmail RPM and have root get hourly reports > sendmail[20633]: j2UI10i20631: SYSERR(root): Cannot exec > /usr/bin/procmail: No such file or directory You didn't install the procmail RPM, did you? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Treat each day as if it's your last...a lot of crying and whining - - usually gets you what you want! -- Sam Sledge - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From tek_guy at rediffmail.com Wed Mar 30 19:26:39 2005 From: tek_guy at rediffmail.com (Tech Guy) Date: 30 Mar 2005 19:26:39 -0000 Subject: DF & DU report different size Message-ID: <20050330192639.4042.qmail@webmail8.rediffmail.com> Hello, I have a file system which is 12GB in size. I have oracle on this filesystem. df shows me 100% on that filesystem but when I use du, I find only 6GB is been used. I donot know where the rest 6GB is ? I assume there are open files. I tried the command "fuser" on that filesystem and I see 100s of processs which are oracle. I also tried lsof and see many processes again that are oracle. I am not sure if I can kill those processes Has anyone know a better way to find which is using the diskspace and how to clear it without having to reboot the server I appreciate your help. Thanks TG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 30 19:27:12 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:27:12 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <007601c53531$bb502ab0$6401a8c0@pccat03> References: <007601c53531$bb502ab0$6401a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <424AFD90.1020600@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > Ted Potter wrote: > >>On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: > > [snip] > >>>Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the >>>terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a >>>login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the >>>first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll > > bet > >>>that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get >>>you the prompt. >>> >>>Can you fix it? Probably not. > > >>>As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It > > is > >>>like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are > > waiting > >>>on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations > > that > >>>hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? > > > It's "PacMan" (no "k"). :-) > > First, let's do some preliminary stuff. Get on the Linux machine and do > some network probing. Start out with "netstat -an | grep :23" to see > how many current telnet sessions you have running. By default, you're > limited to 60 concurrent connetions. > > Next, by default, the system will try to log the remote hostname. If > your DNS isn't doing reverse lookups or you don't have the Windows > boxes' IP addresses and hostnames in the Linux server's /etc/hosts file, > the system will wait for DNS to time out before allowing the session to > continue. > > Ok, how to fix? Well, if you have more than 60 concurrent sessions, you > have to ask yourself if that's a legitimate use (60 telnet sessions is > a LOT, but it depends on your usage). If you need more, you need to go > into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the "telnet" file. If you need, say, 100 > concurrent telnet sessions, add in a line that reads: > > instances = 100 > > If you are having DNS issues, you can disable DNS-related things by > changing the line: > > log_on_failure += USERID > > to: > > log_on_failure = > > Also, add a line: > > log_on_success -= HOST > > If you started with the original /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file, it should > look sort of like this after all the editing: > > # default: on > # description: The telnet server serves telnet sessions; it uses \ > # unencrypted username/password pairs for authentication. > service telnet > { > disable = no > instances = 100 > flags = REUSE > socket_type = stream > wait = no > user = root > server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd > log_on_failure = > log_on_success -= HOST > } > > Once you're done with editing the file, save it and execute: > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart > > to make xinetd use the new data. > ------------------------------------------------> > I will continue tomorrow this installation and I have to solve it. > So I have some questions: > How can I know that the linuxserver is using DNS, can I trace it? DNS is always used if the hostname or IP address in question isn't in the /etc/hosts file. > The names of the workstations are not in /etc/hosts. I am using K12ltsp > which fills it up automatically with some names. Do I have to empty it? Uh, no. /etc/hosts should contain the names and IP addresses of machines that aren't in the DNS system. > If one client is going somewhere on the internet to look for the server > and other clients don't, how can I trace this. I'm not sure what you mean by this. When you try to hit a website or something on the internet, the first thing the machine does is check its /etc/hosts file to see if it has the address. If it doesn't, then the system queries the DNS system to get the address. The only way to trace it is to do a tcpdump on the machine in question: tcpdump port 53 That will show any DNS queries or responses sent over the network. > The server has 2 network cards, one of them is not used at this moment, > could this be a problem? It rather depends on the routing and how you have things set up. We'd need to see a network diagram to tell you what's going on. > I only in the testphase, so I am far away from 60 users, so this > couldn't be the problem. > > Thanks again for any help that will get this network into discipline. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum was right - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From markknecht at gmail.com Wed Mar 30 19:28:30 2005 From: markknecht at gmail.com (Mark Knecht) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:28:30 -0800 Subject: More info on wireless not working Message-ID: <5bdc1c8b05033011283a7d711d@mail.gmail.com> Music was playing for a couple of hours and then it just quit. It won't seem to start up again. Pimg is dropping packets. Letency is very long on some of them: [mark at Godzilla mark]$ ping dragonfly PING Dragonfly (192.168.10.52) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=19.4 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=111 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=153 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=58.1 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=134 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=137 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=53.6 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=2.30 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=3.83 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=2.78 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=20.3 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=60.0 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=22 ttl=64 time=8.56 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=23 ttl=64 time=4.54 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=27 ttl=64 time=11.9 ms 64 bytes from Dragonfly (192.168.10.52): icmp_seq=28 ttl=64 time=6.94 ms --- Dragonfly ping statistics --- 30 packets transmitted, 16 received, 46% packet loss, time 29021ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.303/49.320/153.896/53.018 ms, pipe 2 [mark at Godzilla mark]$ Locally I see only one error: [mark at Godzilla mark]$ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:27:17:91:5D inet addr:192.168.10.51 Bcast:192.168.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::290:27ff:fe17:915d/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:112861 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:1 TX packets:74695 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:2 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:155813517 (148.5 Mb) TX bytes:7090653 (6.7 Mb) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1505 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1505 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1422755 (1.3 Mb) TX bytes:1422755 (1.3 Mb) [mark at Godzilla mark]$ The remote (wireless server) machine sees none: [mark at dragonfly mark]$ /sbin/ifconfig lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:4794 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4794 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:5593196 (5.3 Mb) TX bytes:5593196 (5.3 Mb) wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:95:83:86:A4 inet addr:192.168.10.52 Bcast:192.168.10.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::211:95ff:fe83:86a4/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:50664 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:79563 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:8729844 (8.3 Mb) TX bytes:103174215 (98.3 Mb) Interrupt:22 Memory:f9001000-f9001024 [mark at dragonfly mark]$ What do I do? - Mark From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 30 19:28:33 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:28:33 -0800 Subject: Hints for newbie (was: Volari-XP Display Driver) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424AFDE1.1000803@vitalstream.com> John Morfit (VA/NQL) wrote: >>A hint: While looking at the GUI screen, "CTRL-ALT-F1" through >>"CTRL-ALT-F6" will get you to a standard text mode command line login. >>There are six of them and then correspond to the six virtual consoles. >>Also, while looking at the GUI screen, a "CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE" will >>restart the X system and return you to the GUI login. >> >>When in one of the text-mode screens, holding down ALT and pressing F1 >>through F6 will switch you between the virtual consoles. And >>since the >>GUI runs on virtual console 7, "ALT-F7" will return you to the GUI. >>Neat, eh? Now you know more than you ever wanted to. >> > > > Rick, > Damn fine! As they say downunda, goodonya mate! Cheers right, Mate! No worries! Glad to help. > Apparently, I can replace the video with an ATI or Nvidia. Just got to spend the $$. Yeah, most problems can be solved by adequate infusions of cash. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The problem with being poor is that it takes up all of your time - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 30 19:29:55 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:29:55 -0800 Subject: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <424AFE33.9060300@vitalstream.com> Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rick Stevens [mailto:rstevens at vitalstream.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:31 AM >>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>Subject: Re: procmailrc question >> >>Waldher, Travis R wrote: >> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] >>>>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:23 PM >>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>Subject: Re: procmailrc question >>>> >>>>On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 04:02:00PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: Bob McClure Jr [mailto:robertmcclure at earthlink.net] >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:50 PM >>>>>>To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >>>>>>Subject: Re: procmailrc question >>>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Waldher, Travis R wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Ok.. good question here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If I don't want an /etc/.procmailrc, and I have users that have >>> >>>an >>> >>> >>>>>>>invalid $HOME path on the sendmail server, how can I support >>>>> >>>>>.procmailrc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>files for those users as procmail only appears to look at >>>>>>>$HOME/.procmailrc. >>>>>> >>>>>>Not true. Procmail looks at /etc/procmailrc (not >>> >>>/etc/.procmailrc) >>> >>> >>>>>>and then at $HOME/.procmailrc. Note also that the latter must be >>>>>>owned by the user and be writable only by that user (644 perms). >>>>>> >>>>>>I'm curious. What users have an invalid $HOME, and why? >>>>> >>>>>In short, I have a mess here. >>>>> >>>>>We have multiple user account file systems. The one for our >>> >>>sendmail >>> >>> >>>>>server is say /acct, the one for our HP machines would be /acct.hp. >>> >>>But >>> >>> >>>>>our sendmail server also mounts that so mail can be handled >>> >>>properly. >>> >>> >>>>>The problem is, I can't create user directories in /acct, even if >>> >>>it's >>> >>> >>>>>just to put a .procmailrc link to their /acct.hp directory. >>>>> >>>>>So I need procmail to be able to use /acct/username/.procmailrc >>>>>(otherwise known as $HOME) and /acct.hp/username/.procmailrc. >>>>> >>>>>Hope that made some sense. >>>> >>>>Hmm. Well, sendmail determines each user's HOME directory from >>>>/etc/passwd. That (his HOME) is where the user's .procmailrc should >>>>reside. How does that relate to the two user worlds? >>> >>> >>>On an HP, their home directory would be /acct. >>> >>>On a linux box their home directory would be /acct >>> >>>On an SGI their home directory would be /acct >>> >>>The problem is, none of those are the same files system. :( >> >>Did you ever see my responses? I repeat: >> >>You can set up the "ForwardPath" option in the sendmail.cf file to > > give > >>a list of directories to search for the .forward file. For example, >>this line: >> >> O ForwardPath=/usr/local/etc/forwards/$u.forward:$z/.forward >> >>If the incoming mail was for user "fred", that line would cause the >>system to first look for a "/usr/local/etc/forwards/fred.forward" file >>If found, it is used. If not, it tries to find a ".forward" file in >>fred's home directory. The system defaults to: >> >> O ForwardPath=$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward >> >>"$z" is filled in with the user's home directory after sendmail does a >>getpwent()-style call, "$w" is filled in with the host name of the >>machine running sendmail. > > > Sorry, yes, I got them and it helped. I've just been really busy and my > mind is shot that and got pretty sick. I find myself forgetting more > than I used to, like replying to email. *sigh* Ah, senior moments! I have them frequently! > After we did this, I discovered that sendmail needed some other changes. > Below are some excerpts I sent to the end users explaining why it broke > and how to fix their stuff. Cool. Glad I could at least aim you in the general direction. > Originally, we had "DontBlameSendmail=forwardfileinunsafedirpath" in the > sendmail.cf file. While this allowed group and world writeable > directories .forward files to be read. If those .forward files called a > program, it wouldn't allow them to execute. So we changed it to > "DontBlameSendmail=forwardfileinunsafedirpath, > forwardfileinunsafedirpathsafe". This allowed the .forward file to be > executed. > > Next step was figuring out why we still got permission errors. It turns > out that even with the sendmail.cf file set properly to allow .forward > to execute. Sendmail still won't execute the .procmailrc if world write > is set on the file AND you aren't using the .procmail found in the $HOME > directory IF the file and/or parent directory is set to 777, 775 works. > Remember in LCAS2's case $HOME is acct.common, not acct.hp. > > Since your .procmailrc is in your acct.hp directory, you need to modify > your .forward file in acct.hp to look something like this: > > "|/usr/bin/procmail -t -m /acct.hp//.procmailrc" > > The -m turns procmail in to a general mail filter. It also allows you > to use any .procmailrc file you want. But that file and it's parent > directory must not have world write. If they do, it won't work. > > Inside the .procmailrc, you need to make sure $HOME is changed to > /acct.hp/username otherwise the path's won't resolve properly for those > with HP accounts. > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - The problem with being poor is that it takes up all of your time - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 30 19:41:40 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:41:40 -0800 Subject: DF & DU report different size In-Reply-To: <20050330192639.4042.qmail@webmail8.rediffmail.com> References: <20050330192639.4042.qmail@webmail8.rediffmail.com> Message-ID: <424B00F4.9050702@vitalstream.com> Tech Guy wrote: > Hello, > > I have a file system which is 12GB in size. I have oracle on this > filesystem. df shows me 100% on that filesystem but when I use du, I > find only 6GB is been used. I donot know where the rest 6GB is ? df looks at the raw inode data for the partition, du looks at the filesystem. > I assume there are open files. I tried the command "fuser" on that > filesystem and I see 100s of processs which are oracle. > I also tried lsof and see many processes again that are oracle. > I am not sure if I can kill those processes > > Has anyone know a better way to find which is using the diskspace and > how to clear it without having to reboot the server. I don't think you have a problem. Oracle will take all of the inodes it can when it fires up, so df will show it as full. Remember that df and du look at different things. For example, look at this on one of my systems: [root at prophead root]# df -h /images Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 40G 23G 15G 60% /images [root at prophead root]# du -hs /images 46G /images So df shows me using 23GB on /images, but du shows 46G. Why the difference? Look at the output of mount (extra stuff deleted): [root at prophead root]# mount /dev/hda2 on /images type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdb1 on /images/Archives type ext3 (rw) See? /images itself is only a 40GB partition and 23GB is used. HOWEVER, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /images/Archives, and: [root at prophead root]# du -hs /images/Archives 24G /images/Archives So there's where the extra space is sucked up. du is showing me that 23GB worth of inodes is in use, while du (when it examines the filesystem) finds the 24GB on the other partition as well as the space used on /images. What I'm saying is that the Oracle partition has all of its inodes in use (Oracle does that), but in actuality, only 6GB is in active filesystems. I don't think you have a problem. You can check by preventing Oracle from starting at boot and rebooting the system. THEN do your "df/du" stuff. If you're satisfied then, start Oracle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum was right - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mikerault at yahoo.com Wed Mar 30 20:03:49 2005 From: mikerault at yahoo.com (Michael Ault) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 12:03:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: DF & DU report different size In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050330200349.67783.qmail@web31514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The important thing is what does Oracle think it is using? Look at the dba_tablespaces or dba_datafiles internal Oracle table and see what datafiles it has in place. Also look at v$logfile. I wouldn't go messing with Oracle owned files, especially any that end in .dbf or .log. You could bring the DBAs down on you pretty fast. Oracle protects itself from just about everything except operator error. Also remember that Linux will allow you to delete in use files. Mike Ault --- Rick Stevens wrote: > Tech Guy wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a file system which is 12GB in size. I have > oracle on this > > filesystem. df shows me 100% on that filesystem > but when I use du, I > > find only 6GB is been used. I donot know where the > rest 6GB is ? > > df looks at the raw inode data for the partition, du > looks at the > filesystem. > > > I assume there are open files. I tried the command > "fuser" on that > > filesystem and I see 100s of processs which are > oracle. > > I also tried lsof and see many processes again > that are oracle. > > I am not sure if I can kill those processes > > > > Has anyone know a better way to find which is > using the diskspace and > > how to clear it without having to reboot the > server. > > I don't think you have a problem. Oracle will take > all of the inodes > it can when it fires up, so df will show it as full. > Remember that > df and du look at different things. For example, > look at this on one of > my systems: > > [root at prophead root]# df -h /images > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted > on > /dev/hda2 40G 23G 15G 60% /images > > [root at prophead root]# du -hs /images > 46G /images > > So df shows me using 23GB on /images, but du shows > 46G. Why the > difference? Look at the output of mount (extra > stuff deleted): > > [root at prophead root]# mount > /dev/hda2 on /images type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hdb1 on /images/Archives type ext3 (rw) > > See? /images itself is only a 40GB partition and > 23GB is used. > HOWEVER, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /images/Archives, > and: > > [root at prophead root]# du -hs /images/Archives > 24G /images/Archives > > So there's where the extra space is sucked up. du > is showing me that > 23GB worth of inodes is in use, while du (when it > examines the > filesystem) finds the 24GB on the other partition as > well as the space > used on /images. > > What I'm saying is that the Oracle partition has all > of its inodes in > use (Oracle does that), but in actuality, only 6GB > is in active > filesystems. I don't think you have a problem. You > can check by > preventing Oracle from starting at boot and > rebooting the system. THEN > do your "df/du" stuff. If you're satisfied then, > start Oracle. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer > rstevens at vitalstream.com - > - VitalStream, Inc. > http://www.vitalstream.com - > - > - > - Microsoft Windows: Proof that P.T. Barnum > was right - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > Michael R. Ault Senior Consultant Burleson Oracle Consulting 770-754-9057 www.ault.cc www.remote-dba.com From roland at cat.be Wed Mar 30 22:08:33 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:08:33 +0200 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <424AFD90.1020600@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <003301c53575$03af6800$6664a8c0@pccat03> roland brouwers wrote: > Ted Potter wrote: > >>On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: > > [snip] > >>>Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with the >>>terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a >>>login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the >>>first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll > > bet > >>>that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would get >>>you the prompt. >>> >>>Can you fix it? Probably not. > > >>>As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It > > is > >>>like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are > > waiting > >>>on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations > > that > >>>hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? > > > It's "PacMan" (no "k"). :-) > > First, let's do some preliminary stuff. Get on the Linux machine and do > some network probing. Start out with "netstat -an | grep :23" to see > how many current telnet sessions you have running. By default, you're > limited to 60 concurrent connetions. > > Next, by default, the system will try to log the remote hostname. If > your DNS isn't doing reverse lookups or you don't have the Windows > boxes' IP addresses and hostnames in the Linux server's /etc/hosts file, > the system will wait for DNS to time out before allowing the session to > continue. > > Ok, how to fix? Well, if you have more than 60 concurrent sessions, you > have to ask yourself if that's a legitimate use (60 telnet sessions is > a LOT, but it depends on your usage). If you need more, you need to go > into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the "telnet" file. If you need, say, 100 > concurrent telnet sessions, add in a line that reads: > > instances = 100 > > If you are having DNS issues, you can disable DNS-related things by > changing the line: > > log_on_failure += USERID > > to: > > log_on_failure = > > Also, add a line: > > log_on_success -= HOST > > If you started with the original /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file, it should > look sort of like this after all the editing: > > # default: on > # description: The telnet server serves telnet sessions; it uses \ > # unencrypted username/password pairs for authentication. > service telnet > { > disable = no > instances = 100 > flags = REUSE > socket_type = stream > wait = no > user = root > server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd > log_on_failure = > log_on_success -= HOST > } > > Once you're done with editing the file, save it and execute: > > /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart > > to make xinetd use the new data. > ------------------------------------------------> > I will continue tomorrow this installation and I have to solve it. > So I have some questions: > How can I know that the linuxserver is using DNS, can I trace it? DNS is always used if the hostname or IP address in question isn't in the /etc/hosts file. > The names of the workstations are not in /etc/hosts. I am using K12ltsp > which fills it up automatically with some names. Do I have to empty it? Uh, no. /etc/hosts should contain the names and IP addresses of machines that aren't in the DNS system. > If one client is going somewhere on the internet to look for the server > and other clients don't, how can I trace this. I'm not sure what you mean by this. When you try to hit a website or something on the internet, the first thing the machine does is check its /etc/hosts file to see if it has the address. If it doesn't, then the system queries the DNS system to get the address. The only way to trace it is to do a tcpdump on the machine in question: tcpdump port 53 That will show any DNS queries or responses sent over the network. > The server has 2 network cards, one of them is not used at this moment, > could this be a problem? It rather depends on the routing and how you have things set up. We'd need to see a network diagram to tell you what's going on. > I only in the testphase, so I am far away from 60 users, so this > couldn't be the problem. > > Thanks again for any help that will get this network into discipline. -----------------------------------------------------------> On all workstations I always get immediately the login prompt, then I enter the userID and the password and then he waits. How can DNS play his role on that moment? The server is found, so why isn't he happy and continuous instead of waiting? And why does he do this for only some guys or girls? ):-8 What does Linux do, after entering the UserId and password? I hope when I wake up tomorrow, the sun will shine. Thanks Roland From rstevens at vitalstream.com Wed Mar 30 22:29:44 2005 From: rstevens at vitalstream.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:29:44 -0800 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <003301c53575$03af6800$6664a8c0@pccat03> References: <003301c53575$03af6800$6664a8c0@pccat03> Message-ID: <424B2858.8090904@vitalstream.com> roland brouwers wrote: > roland brouwers wrote: > >>Ted Potter wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: >> >>[snip] >> >> >>>>Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with > > the > >>>>terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a >>>>login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the >>>>first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll >> >>bet >> >> >>>>that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would > > get > >>>>you the prompt. >>>> >>>>Can you fix it? Probably not. >> >> >>>>As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It >> >>is >> >> >>>>like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are >> >>waiting >> >> >>>>on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations >> >>that >> >> >>>>hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? >> >> >>It's "PacMan" (no "k"). :-) >> >>First, let's do some preliminary stuff. Get on the Linux machine and > > do > >>some network probing. Start out with "netstat -an | grep :23" to see >>how many current telnet sessions you have running. By default, you're >>limited to 60 concurrent connetions. >> >>Next, by default, the system will try to log the remote hostname. If >>your DNS isn't doing reverse lookups or you don't have the Windows >>boxes' IP addresses and hostnames in the Linux server's /etc/hosts > > file, > >>the system will wait for DNS to time out before allowing the session > > to > >>continue. >> >>Ok, how to fix? Well, if you have more than 60 concurrent sessions, > > you > >>have to ask yourself if that's a legitimate use (60 telnet sessions is >>a LOT, but it depends on your usage). If you need more, you need to > > go > >>into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the "telnet" file. If you need, say, 100 >>concurrent telnet sessions, add in a line that reads: >> >> instances = 100 >> >>If you are having DNS issues, you can disable DNS-related things by >>changing the line: >> >> log_on_failure += USERID >> >>to: >> >> log_on_failure = >> >>Also, add a line: >> >> log_on_success -= HOST >> >>If you started with the original /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file, it should >>look sort of like this after all the editing: >> >># default: on >># description: The telnet server serves telnet sessions; it uses \ >># unencrypted username/password pairs for authentication. >>service telnet >>{ >> disable = no >> instances = 100 >> flags = REUSE >> socket_type = stream >> wait = no >> user = root >> server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd >> log_on_failure = >> log_on_success -= HOST >>} >> >>Once you're done with editing the file, save it and execute: >> >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart >> >>to make xinetd use the new data. >>------------------------------------------------> >>I will continue tomorrow this installation and I have to solve it. >>So I have some questions: >>How can I know that the linuxserver is using DNS, can I trace it? > > > DNS is always used if the hostname or IP address in question isn't in > the /etc/hosts file. > > >>The names of the workstations are not in /etc/hosts. I am using > > K12ltsp > >>which fills it up automatically with some names. Do I have to empty > > it? > > Uh, no. /etc/hosts should contain the names and IP addresses of > machines that aren't in the DNS system. > > >>If one client is going somewhere on the internet to look for the > > server > >>and other clients don't, how can I trace this. > > > I'm not sure what you mean by this. When you try to hit a website or > something on the internet, the first thing the machine does is check its > /etc/hosts file to see if it has the address. If it doesn't, then the > system queries the DNS system to get the address. > > The only way to trace it is to do a tcpdump on the machine in question: > > tcpdump port 53 > > That will show any DNS queries or responses sent over the network. > > >>The server has 2 network cards, one of them is not used at this > > moment, > >>could this be a problem? > > > It rather depends on the routing and how you have things set up. We'd > need to see a network diagram to tell you what's going on. > > >>I only in the testphase, so I am far away from 60 users, so this >>couldn't be the problem. >> >>Thanks again for any help that will get this network into discipline. > > -----------------------------------------------------------> > On all workstations I always get immediately the login prompt, then I > enter the userID and the password and then he waits. > How can DNS play his role on that moment? The server is found, so why > isn't he happy and continuous instead of waiting? And why does he do > this for only some guys or girls? ):-8 > > What does Linux do, after entering the UserId and password? Again, unless you remove the HOST stuff from /etc/xinetd.d/telnet, once you log in the system will try to reverse resolve the IP address that the user came in on and match it to a host name. If the IP address ISN'T in the /etc/hosts file, it queries the DNS servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf for the information. It will wait for up to 1 minute for an answer. If no answer comes, it tries the next server in that list. This continues until all of the servers have been tried or the DNS system gives an answer. > I hope when I wake up tomorrow, the sun will shine. It should, unless we have a nuclear war or major volcanic event. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Senior Systems Engineer rstevens at vitalstream.com - - VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com - - - - We look for things. Things that make us go! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ohookins at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 05:42:10 2005 From: ohookins at gmail.com (Oliver Hookins) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:42:10 +1000 Subject: MBR not suitable as boot device; installing to partition Message-ID: I'm setting up a kickstart installation environment for RHEL-ES-4, and created a kickstart file using the kickstart configuration generator. When I boot the new machine from the network using the kickstart file it generates the message: * MBR not suitable as boot device; installing to partition And proceeds through the rest of the installation. After rebooting, the machine hangs at the GRUB prompt. Something is not right here, the commands used in the kickstart file with regard to the disks and bootloader are as follows: bootloader --location=mbr zerombr yes clearpart --all --initlabel It is installing to SCSI disks in a RAID1 configuration but that shouldn't make any difference to how GRUB is installed - it hasn't even reached any partitioning information at this stage. Any ideas? This definitely wasn't an issue under RHEL-ES-3. Regards, Oliver Hookins From smertens at mho.com Thu Mar 31 13:04:57 2005 From: smertens at mho.com (Scott Mertens) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:04:57 -0700 Subject: Linux Recommendations B4 jumping in Message-ID: <200503311305.j2VD519b027577@mx3.redhat.com> I'm new to Linux, but used Unix many (10)years ago. I want to install Linux on a new workgroup server in my home. A little background, The home workgroup has 2 laptops and one desktop. All 3 are WIN XP, and I want to ghost weekly to a backup drive on the new workgroup File and print server. I want to make the Linux machine the file and print server. So all it has to do is host a shared printer, and I will add a 2nd drive most likely formatted as NTFS so the Laptops / desktop(XP) can ghost to them. Or does it need to be FAT or FAT 32 so the Linux box can ghost to it as well? I thought this would give me a chance to play with Linux without getting too complicated at first. The new machine I just bought is a Gateway 504GR Inter P4 with Hyperthreading 200 GIG HD 512 MG RAM 7USB and 2Firewire Double Layer DVD Burner So I'm looking for some recommendations. As to latest Linux version, if it's kernel will have any problems compiling on this machine. I'm not real sure, but my guess is it won't be too hard to share an HP printer on the Linux workstation and map an XP machine to it? Just looking for some knowledge imparted form the experts. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.morfit at ericsson.com Thu Mar 31 15:37:32 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:37:32 -0600 Subject: Hints for newbie (was: Volari-XP Display Driver) Message-ID: I have an app complaining that my /tmp directory is too small. I have /dev/hdc9 mounted on /tmp, sized to 101 MB. I do have some 15 GB of free (unpartitioned) disk space. What is my best method of increasing /tmp space? a) Resize the /dev/hdc9 partition with Disk Druid? How do you start Disk Druid? fdisk? parted? "parted hdc1 resize /tmp" b) Go back to WinXP and resize with fips? Partition Commander? c) change the /tmp directory to another partition with more available space (rob Peter to pay Paul). For instance, /usr has 6 GB available. I can see that 3 processes are using /tmp: gdm-binary, gconfd-2, and gam_server. Killing them causes a reboot, which restarts the 3 processes. How can I umount /tmp for the resize? Thanks, /John -----Original Message----- From: John Morfit (VA/NQL) Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:50 AM To: 'Getting started with Red Hat Linux' Subject: Hints for newbie (was: Volari-XP Display Driver) > A hint: While looking at the GUI screen, "CTRL-ALT-F1" through > "CTRL-ALT-F6" will get you to a standard text mode command line login. > There are six of them and then correspond to the six virtual consoles. > Also, while looking at the GUI screen, a "CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE" will > restart the X system and return you to the GUI login. > > When in one of the text-mode screens, holding down ALT and pressing F1 > through F6 will switch you between the virtual consoles. And > since the > GUI runs on virtual console 7, "ALT-F7" will return you to the GUI. > Neat, eh? Now you know more than you ever wanted to. > Rick, Damn fine! As they say downunda, goodonya mate! Apparently, I can replace the video with an ATI or Nvidia. Just got to spend the $$. /John From john.morfit at ericsson.com Thu Mar 31 16:01:53 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:01:53 -0600 Subject: /tmp resizing (was RE: Hints for newbie) Message-ID: > I have an app complaining that my /tmp directory is too > small. I have /dev/hdc9 mounted on /tmp, sized to 101 MB. I > do have some 15 GB of free (unpartitioned) disk space. > > What is my best method of increasing /tmp space? > a) Resize the /dev/hdc9 partition with > Disk Druid? How do you start Disk Druid? > fdisk? > parted? "parted hdc1 resize /tmp" > b) Go back to WinXP and resize with > fips? > Partition Commander? > c) change the /tmp directory to another partition with more > available space (rob Peter to pay Paul). For instance, /usr > has 6 GB available. > > I can see that 3 processes are using /tmp: gdm-binary, > gconfd-2, and gam_server. > Killing them causes a reboot, which restarts the 3 processes. > How can I umount /tmp for the resize? > > Thanks, > /John I tried setting /etc/inittab runlevel to 3 and rebooting. Indeed, fuser does not show any users of /tmp. However, umount still complains that /tmp is busy. ??? Thanks, /John From john.morfit at ericsson.com Thu Mar 31 17:05:38 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:05:38 -0600 Subject: /tmp resizing (was RE: Hints for newbie) Message-ID: > > I have an app complaining that my /tmp directory is too > > small. I have /dev/hdc9 mounted on /tmp, sized to 101 MB. I > > do have some 15 GB of free (unpartitioned) disk space. > > > > What is my best method of increasing /tmp space? > > a) Resize the /dev/hdc9 partition with > > Disk Druid? How do you start Disk Druid? > > fdisk? > > parted? "parted hdc1 resize /tmp" > > b) Go back to WinXP and resize with > > fips? > > Partition Commander? > > c) change the /tmp directory to another partition with more > > available space (rob Peter to pay Paul). For instance, /usr > > has 6 GB available. > > > > I can see that 3 processes are using /tmp: gdm-binary, > > gconfd-2, and gam_server. > > Killing them causes a reboot, which restarts the 3 processes. > > How can I umount /tmp for the resize? > > > > Thanks, > > /John > > I tried setting /etc/inittab runlevel to 3 and rebooting. > Indeed, fuser does not show any users of /tmp. However, > umount still complains that /tmp is busy. ??? > > Thanks, > /John > I used lsof to discover that xfs has a font file open (/tmp/.font-unix/fs7100). /J From john.morfit at ericsson.com Thu Mar 31 18:07:04 2005 From: john.morfit at ericsson.com (John Morfit (VA/NQL)) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:07:04 -0600 Subject: /tmp resizing (was RE: Hints for newbie) Message-ID: > > > I have an app complaining that my /tmp directory is too > > > small. I have /dev/hdc9 mounted on /tmp, sized to 101 MB. I > > > do have some 15 GB of free (unpartitioned) disk space. > > > > > > What is my best method of increasing /tmp space? > > > a) Resize the /dev/hdc9 partition with > > > Disk Druid? How do you start Disk Druid? > > > fdisk? > > > parted? "parted hdc1 resize /tmp" > > > b) Go back to WinXP and resize with > > > fips? > > > Partition Commander? > > > c) change the /tmp directory to another partition with more > > > available space (rob Peter to pay Paul). For instance, /usr > > > has 6 GB available. > > > > > > I can see that 3 processes are using /tmp: gdm-binary, > > > gconfd-2, and gam_server. > > > Killing them causes a reboot, which restarts the 3 processes. > > > How can I umount /tmp for the resize? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > /John > > > > I tried setting /etc/inittab runlevel to 3 and rebooting. > > Indeed, fuser does not show any users of /tmp. However, > > umount still complains that /tmp is busy. ??? > > > > Thanks, > > /John > > > I used lsof to discover that xfs has a font file open > (/tmp/.font-unix/fs7100). > > /J I used Linux Rescue mode to free up /tmp. That allowed umount /tmp to proceed properly. However, parted would not resize /tmp because of some /tmp feature that is enabled: "Filesystem has incompatible feature enabled" (possibly dir_index, per web search). Searching the web showed that this was going to be an involved problem, so I reverted to WinXP and used Partition Commander to resize the partition. Linux reported /tmp as clean during bootup. DF -h reported the new size properly. :) /John From roland at cat.be Thu Mar 31 21:35:42 2005 From: roland at cat.be (roland brouwers) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:35:42 +0200 Subject: telnet In-Reply-To: <424B2858.8090904@vitalstream.com> Message-ID: <001a01c53639$96f4f980$6664a8c0@pccat03> > >>Ted Potter wrote: >> >> >>>On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:23, roland brouwers wrote: >> >>[snip] >> >> >>>>Now, as to why ME behaves differently, I suspect it has to do with > > the > >>>>terminal emulation in its telnet protocol. One of the last things a >>>>login does is set the prompt string and many systems will "eat" the >>>>first prompt, just due to the way they set up the connections. I'll >> >>bet >> >> >>>>that it's not necessary for a "CTRL-C", but a simple "ENTER" would > > get > >>>>you the prompt. >>>> >>>>Can you fix it? Probably not. >> >> >>>>As I told you before "ENTER" doesn't work and it is getting worse. It >> >>is >> >> >>>>like eating my network. More and more workstations, even XP are >> >>waiting >> >> >>>>on telnet. If you wait long enough they continue. Some workstations >> >>that >> >> >>>>hat this problem do not anymore. What is this, PACKMAN? >> >> >>It's "PacMan" (no "k"). :-) >> >>First, let's do some preliminary stuff. Get on the Linux machine and > > do > >>some network probing. Start out with "netstat -an | grep :23" to see >>how many current telnet sessions you have running. By default, you're >>limited to 60 concurrent connetions. >> >>Next, by default, the system will try to log the remote hostname. If >>your DNS isn't doing reverse lookups or you don't have the Windows >>boxes' IP addresses and hostnames in the Linux server's /etc/hosts > > file, > >>the system will wait for DNS to time out before allowing the session > > to > >>continue. >> >>Ok, how to fix? Well, if you have more than 60 concurrent sessions, > > you > >>have to ask yourself if that's a legitimate use (60 telnet sessions is >>a LOT, but it depends on your usage). If you need more, you need to > > go > >>into /etc/xinetd.d and edit the "telnet" file. If you need, say, 100 >>concurrent telnet sessions, add in a line that reads: >> >> instances = 100 >> >>If you are having DNS issues, you can disable DNS-related things by >>changing the line: >> >> log_on_failure += USERID >> >>to: >> >> log_on_failure = >> >>Also, add a line: >> >> log_on_success -= HOST >> >>If you started with the original /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file, it should >>look sort of like this after all the editing: >> >># default: on >># description: The telnet server serves telnet sessions; it uses \ >># unencrypted username/password pairs for authentication. >>service telnet >>{ >> disable = no >> instances = 100 >> flags = REUSE >> socket_type = stream >> wait = no >> user = root >> server = /usr/sbin/in.telnetd >> log_on_failure = >> log_on_success -= HOST >>} >> >>Once you're done with editing the file, save it and execute: >> >> /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart >> >>to make xinetd use the new data. >>------------------------------------------------> >>I will continue tomorrow this installation and I have to solve it. >>So I have some questions: >>How can I know that the linuxserver is using DNS, can I trace it? > > > DNS is always used if the hostname or IP address in question isn't in > the /etc/hosts file. > > >>The names of the workstations are not in /etc/hosts. I am using > > K12ltsp > >>which fills it up automatically with some names. Do I have to empty > > it? > > Uh, no. /etc/hosts should contain the names and IP addresses of > machines that aren't in the DNS system. > > >>If one client is going somewhere on the internet to look for the > > server > >>and other clients don't, how can I trace this. > > > I'm not sure what you mean by this. When you try to hit a website or > something on the internet, the first thing the machine does is check its > /etc/hosts file to see if it has the address. If it doesn't, then the > system queries the DNS system to get the address. > > The only way to trace it is to do a tcpdump on the machine in question: > > tcpdump port 53 > > That will show any DNS queries or responses sent over the network. > > >>The server has 2 network cards, one of them is not used at this > > moment, > >>could this be a problem? > > > It rather depends on the routing and how you have things set up. We'd > need to see a network diagram to tell you what's going on. > > >>I only in the testphase, so I am far away from 60 users, so this >>couldn't be the problem. >> >>Thanks again for any help that will get this network into discipline. > > -----------------------------------------------------------> > On all workstations I always get immediately the login prompt, then I > enter the userID and the password and then he waits. > How can DNS play his role on that moment? The server is found, so why > isn't he happy and continuous instead of waiting? And why does he do > this for only some guys or girls? ):-8 > > What does Linux do, after entering the UserId and password? Again, unless you remove the HOST stuff from /etc/xinetd.d/telnet, once you log in the system will try to reverse resolve the IP address that the user came in on and match it to a host name. If the IP address ISN'T in the /etc/hosts file, it queries the DNS servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf for the information. It will wait for up to 1 minute for an answer. If no answer comes, it tries the next server in that list. This continues until all of the servers have been tried or the DNS system gives an answer. > I hope when I wake up tomorrow, the sun will shine. It should, unless we have a nuclear war or major volcanic event. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nothing of this all worked. Apparently the problem lies somewhere els. In this network there is a Mswindow 2003 Domain Server which is configured as a wins server. I disabled named on the LinuxServer and pointed named.conf to the Mswindows server, which makes no sense because I disabled named service, by service named stop. How can both live together without disturbing one eachother. Because I use samba and configured some printers as smb printers I need, I suppose, the wins server. What is the right way to make a symbiosis. I am still praying. Roland From brad.mugleston at comcast.net Thu Mar 31 23:13:44 2005 From: brad.mugleston at comcast.net (brad.mugleston at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:13:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: Router Problem Message-ID: I installed a Motorola (WR850) wireless router into my existing home nextwork system (Linksys BEFSR41). Everything seemed to work fine until I upgraded my wireless noteboot to Linux (FC2). Everything still seems to work OK but I couldn't access my printer. I wasn't too concerned as I didn't need to print much but I've been messing with it and I've discoverd the following. I can ping the Motorola (192.168.1.2) and I can ping the Linksys (192.168.1.1) but I can't ping any of the other computers (all hooked up to the Linksys). This is probably why I can't find a printer to print to or share files. I'm sure it's probably a permission on the Linksys (guessing that's where I stop at) but looking at the manual I don't see what is wrong. Has anyone seen/solved this problem? Thanks, Brad Mugleston, KI0OT There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.