From sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com Mon Jul 7 06:40:20 2008 From: sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com (Sujitkumar Shirkar) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:40:20 +0000 Subject: redhat licensing Message-ID: Hello all, I would like to know do i need to buy RHEL 4, Update 4 license if i have to use it for production purpose? We have download from the net and it is working fine, then do i need to buy license? If i have 100 system installed with RHEL4 Update 4 and if i i buy only one RHEL subcription will it work for all 100 systems? Please advise With Thanks and Regards Sujitkumar Shirkar _________________________________________________________________ Missed your favourite programme? Stop surfing TV channels and start planning your weekend TV viewing with our comprehensive TV Listing http://entertainment.in.msn.com/TV/TVListing.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob at bobcatos.com Mon Jul 7 14:22:47 2008 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:22:47 -0500 Subject: redhat licensing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080707142247.GA8858@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 06:40:20AM +0000, Sujitkumar Shirkar wrote: > > Hello all, > > I would like to know > do i need to buy RHEL 4, Update 4 license if i have to use it for > production purpose? If you want regular updates, bug fixes, and security fixes, yes. > We have download from the net and it is working fine, then do i need > to buy license? See above answer. > If i have 100 system installed with RHEL4 Update 4 and if i i buy > only one RHEL subcription will it work for all 100 systems? No, not unless you apply some extraordinary kluges. > Please advise Why don't you just download and install CentOS (preferably v5, at this point) http://www.centos.org/ which is a repackaged superset of RHEL, for which updates are free? There are two good reasons to buy an RHEL license. 1. Get the regular updates. 2. Get customer support from their techs. But you will have to get one for each box running RHEL. > With Thanks and Regards > > Sujitkumar Shirkar Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers. Galatians 6:10 (NIV) From sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 08:02:29 2008 From: sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com (Sujitkumar Shirkar) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:02:29 +0000 Subject: Mass linux installation Message-ID: Hello All, is there any way to do mass linux installtion on 100 blade server simultaniouslly? We are planing to install Fedore 9 on 100 workstations. Is there any way to do remote installation, OR creating & restoring os image to new system. With Thanks and Regards Sujitkumar Shirkar _________________________________________________________________ Chose your Life Partner? Join MSN Matrimony http://www.shaadi.com/msn/matrimony.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ricks at nerd.com Tue Jul 8 17:03:00 2008 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:03:00 -0700 Subject: Mass linux installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48739DC4.1030809@nerd.com> Sujitkumar Shirkar wrote: > Hello All, > > is there any way to do mass linux installtion on 100 blade server simultaniouslly? We are planing to install Fedore 9 on 100 workstations. Is there any way to do remote installation, OR creating & restoring os image to new system. The easiest way is to do a network install with a kickstart image on some media the machines can read (probably a USB FLASH drive). Check the installation guide: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/ for details on how to set up the file server and create the kickstart image. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer rps2 at nerd.com - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - - - - To err is human. To forgive, a large sum of money is needed. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jibreel_amin at yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 18:58:17 2008 From: jibreel_amin at yahoo.com (imran shafiq) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: install fedora on RedHat Message-ID: <326778.17244.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi All How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out disturbing the Redhat AS 5. Imran Shafiq Khan __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob at bobcatos.com Tue Jul 8 20:11:39 2008 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:11:39 -0500 Subject: install fedora on RedHat In-Reply-To: <326778.17244.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <326778.17244.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080708201139.GA24412@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: > Hi All > How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out > disturbing the Redhat AS 5. Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to boot either system. > Imran Shafiq Khan Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that cannot hold water." Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) From hall.jf at pg.com Wed Jul 9 13:19:59 2008 From: hall.jf at pg.com (Hall, James) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:19:59 -0400 Subject: install fedora on RedHat In-Reply-To: <20080708201139.GA24412@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <326778.17244.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080708201139.GA24412@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: Or, boot into your Xen kernel and create a Fedora domU. --Jim -----Original Message----- From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bob McClure Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:12 PM To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: > Hi All > How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out > disturbing the Redhat AS 5. Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to boot either system. > Imran Shafiq Khan Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that cannot hold water." Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe From henryzhang62 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 9 22:40:01 2008 From: henryzhang62 at yahoo.com (hong zhang) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: why boot installation stops? Message-ID: <102324.82570.qm@web57909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Dear List, I try to generate a generic boot disk for various versions of Redhat. When the disk boot up, user can chose one of Red Hat version to install through network. boot.iso in first disk starts installation. But if I do following in isolinux.cfg as following, kernel /boot/vmlinuz append initrd=/boot/initrd.img after boot up and installation will stop (Normally, it should start a process of installing kernel) like this ...... ACPI: PCI Root bridge [PCI0] (00:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) Do I miss something here? Thanks. ---henry From ricks at nerd.com Wed Jul 9 23:42:48 2008 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:42:48 -0700 Subject: why boot installation stops? In-Reply-To: <102324.82570.qm@web57909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <102324.82570.qm@web57909.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48754CF8.1000406@nerd.com> hong zhang wrote: > Dear List, > > I try to generate a generic boot disk for various versions of Redhat. When the disk boot up, user can chose one of Red Hat version to install through network. boot.iso in first disk starts installation. But if I do > following in isolinux.cfg as following, > > kernel /boot/vmlinuz > append initrd=/boot/initrd.img > > after boot up and installation will stop (Normally, it should start a process of installing kernel) like this > > ...... > ACPI: PCI Root bridge [PCI0] (00:00) > PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) > > Do I miss something here? The installers for different versions of RHEL are different. For one thing, they look for different SHA1SUM or MD5SUM signatures on the install media (the SHA1SUM for RHE 5 is different from 5 Update 1) and the installer will abort when it sees a checksum it isn't expecting. Also note that you MUST use an EXTREMELY generic kernel to start the ball rolling. If your kernel is expecting some hardware to be there that isn't, the thing will stop. It'd be nice to see what errors you're getting from the ALT-F2, -F3 and -F4 screens. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer rps2 at nerd.com - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - - - - If the enemy's in range...so are you! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From jibreel_amin at yahoo.com Thu Jul 10 06:44:25 2008 From: jibreel_amin at yahoo.com (imran shafiq) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: install fedora on RedHat In-Reply-To: <20080708201139.GA24412@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <862256.90429.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Bob Thanks for reply. I have following partitions of RH5: 100 MB boot 1024 MB swap 8 GB root 3 GB opt Did I need another set of above partitions for Fedora. or I can use same boot and swap partitions for Fedora also. Imran Shafiq Khan --- On Wed, 9/7/08, Bob McClure Jr wrote: From: Bob McClure Jr Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008, 1:11 AM On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: > Hi All > How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out > disturbing the Redhat AS 5. Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to boot either system. > Imran Shafiq Khan Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that cannot hold water." Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Thu Jul 10 16:31:20 2008 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:31:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: install fedora on RedHat In-Reply-To: <862256.90429.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <862256.90429.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13b37136bdd3427b54189abb80cabb3b.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Thu, July 10, 2008 12:44 am, imran shafiq wrote: > Hi Bob > Thanks for reply. I have following partitions of RH5: > 100 MB boot > 1024 MB swap > 8 GB root > 3 GB opt > Did I need another set of above partitions for Fedora. > or I can use same boot and swap partitions for Fedora also. Are you going to replace RH5 or do you want Fedora to run With RH5? Do you want to have the option to boot into one or the other, or do you want them to run simultaneously with one running in a window on the other? Are you leaving RH5 or wishing to upgrade to Fedora to get some of the newer functions available in Fedora that have yet to be released into RH? Just a couple clarifying questions so we can better help. Karl > > > Imran Shafiq Khan > > --- On Wed, 9/7/08, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > From: Bob McClure Jr > Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008, 1:11 AM > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: >> Hi All > >> How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out >> disturbing the Redhat AS 5. > > Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you > have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the > Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below > cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. > The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install > another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. > > After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to boot either > system. > >> Imran Shafiq Khan > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com > "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring > of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that > cannot hold water." Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at > Yahoo! > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html_______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- Karl L. Pearson karlp at ourldsfamily.com http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- From jibreel_amin at yahoo.com Fri Jul 11 06:58:20 2008 From: jibreel_amin at yahoo.com (imran shafiq) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: install fedora on RedHat In-Reply-To: <13b37136bdd3427b54189abb80cabb3b.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> Message-ID: <331306.58058.qm@web31104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi 1) I want Fedora to run With RH5. 2) I want to have the option to boot into Fedora or the RH5 in GRUB 3) I have a 1024MB swap in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another 1024MB swap 4) I have a 100MB boot in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another 100MB boot Imran Shafiq Khan --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Karl Pearson wrote: From: Karl Pearson Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 9:31 PM On Thu, July 10, 2008 12:44 am, imran shafiq wrote: > Hi Bob > Thanks for reply. I have following partitions of RH5: > 100 MB boot > 1024 MB swap > 8 GB root > 3 GB opt > Did I need another set of above partitions for Fedora. > or I can use same boot and swap partitions for Fedora also. Are you going to replace RH5 or do you want Fedora to run With RH5? Do you want to have the option to boot into one or the other, or do you want them to run simultaneously with one running in a window on the other? Are you leaving RH5 or wishing to upgrade to Fedora to get some of the newer functions available in Fedora that have yet to be released into RH? Just a couple clarifying questions so we can better help. Karl > > > Imran Shafiq Khan > > --- On Wed, 9/7/08, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > From: Bob McClure Jr > Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008, 1:11 AM > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: >> Hi All > >> How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out >> disturbing the Redhat AS 5. > > Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you > have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the > Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below > cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. > The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install > another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. > > After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to boot either > system. > >> Imran Shafiq Khan > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com > "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring > of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that > cannot hold water." Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at > Yahoo! > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html_______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- Karl L. Pearson karlp at ourldsfamily.com http://consulting.ourldsfamily.com --- My Thoughts on Terrorism In America right after 9/11/2001: http://www.ourldsfamily.com/wtc.shtml --- The world is a dangerous place to live... not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- _______________________________________________ Redhat-install-list mailing list Redhat-install-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com Subject: unsubscribe __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. 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Post the output of "fdisk -l" and the output of both "mount" and "df -h" so we can see just what your system has going on. > 2) I want to have the option to boot into Fedora or the RH5 in GRUB Fine. Entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf can handle that. The Fedora entries will need to specify the new partition as the "root=" parameter to the kernel line. > 3) I have a 1024MB swap in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another 1024MB swap Swap is swap. Yes, it can be used in both. > 4) I have a 100MB boot in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another 100MB boot If there's enough room in /boot to handle the Fedora kernels and initrd images along with the RH5 kernels and initrds, yes, it can be used. > Imran Shafiq Khan > > --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Karl Pearson wrote: > From: Karl Pearson > Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 9:31 PM > > On Thu, July 10, 2008 12:44 am, imran shafiq wrote: >> Hi Bob >> Thanks for reply. I have following partitions of RH5: >> 100 MB boot >> 1024 MB swap >> 8 GB root >> 3 GB opt >> Did I need another set of above partitions for Fedora. >> or I can use same boot and swap partitions for Fedora also. > > Are you going to replace RH5 or do you want Fedora to run With RH5? > > Do you want to have the option to boot into one or the other, or do you want > them to run simultaneously with one running in a window on the other? > > Are you leaving RH5 or wishing to upgrade to Fedora to get some of the newer > functions available in Fedora that have yet to be released into RH? > > Just a couple clarifying questions so we can better help. > > Karl >> >> Imran Shafiq Khan >> >> --- On Wed, 9/7/08, Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> From: Bob McClure Jr >> Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat >> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> Date: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008, 1:11 AM >> >> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: >>> Hi All >>> How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out >>> disturbing the Redhat AS 5. >> Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you >> have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the >> Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below >> cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. >> The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install >> another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. >> >> After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to boot either >> system. >> >>> Imran Shafiq Khan >> Cheers, >> -- >> Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >> bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com >> "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring >> of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that >> cannot hold water." Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> Not happy with your email address?. >> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now at >> Yahoo! >> > http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html_______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer rps2 at nerd.com - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - - - - I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com Tue Jul 15 06:34:04 2008 From: sujitkumar_shirkar at hotmail.com (Sujitkumar Shirkar) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:34:04 +0000 Subject: CentOS 5.2 64bit Vs Rendhat RHEL4 update 4 Message-ID: Hello All, I need some guidance from you. I am using some special software on linux. The software is functioning fine on both Centos 5.2 and RHEL4 update 4. i am now confused which one to use for my rest of the 20 systems. both are functioning similar. Can anybody advise which os will be better in terms of management, cost (licensing), feature, performance, os overheads on hardware, Networking etc. With Thanks and Regards Sujitkumar Shirkar _________________________________________________________________ Wish to Marry Now? Join Shaadi.com FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/registration/user/index.php?ptnr=mhottag -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I presume you know that CentOS is a repackaged super-set of RHEL, so, except for version differences, they should work the same. > Can anybody advise which os > will be better in terms of management, Depending on what you mean by management, pretty much the same. > cost (licensing), CentOS is definitely better ($0). > feature, CentOS has more stuff in the distro, but none of the extras are likely to be essential to your operation. If you pay RHEL for some level of support, you have someone you can call, email, or web-form to help fix problems. > performance, os overheads on hardware, Networking etc. The only differences will be version 4 vs. version 5. If you want the latest versions of packages, e.g. PHP 5 instead of 4, Apache 2.2 instead of 2.0, and several others (see the release notes on CentOS 5), you want v5 of Centos or RHEL. RHEL offers several levels of support, but you must pay for one ticket per box. That includes regular updates. If you can handle things with mailing list help, then go for CentOS. Updates are free. > With Thanks > and Regards Sujitkumar Shirkar Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Romans 13:9 (NIV) From CELawrence at lbl.gov Tue Jul 15 18:26:02 2008 From: CELawrence at lbl.gov (Chuck Lawrence) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:26:02 -0700 Subject: CentOS 5.2 64bit Vs Rendhat RHEL4 update 4 Message-ID: hi, centos is 100% binary-equivalent to redhat. there are a few differences in your cited operating systems, but I would vote for centos, for the following reasons: 1. it's free 2. version 5.2 is newer than 4.4. therefore it will have a longer support cycle. the other issues you mention (performance, overhead, etc.) should be nearly identical. if you are the sort that requires or prefers "official" vendor support, you want redhat. otherwise, centos is the way to go. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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The software is functioning fine on both Centos 5.2 and RHEL4> > update 4. i am now confused which one to use for my rest of the 20> > systems. both are functioning similar.> > I presume you know that CentOS is a repackaged super-set of RHEL, so,> except for version differences, they should work the same.> > > Can anybody advise which os> > will be better in terms of management,> > Depending on what you mean by management, pretty much the same.> > > cost (licensing),> > CentOS is definitely better ($0).> > > feature,> > CentOS has more stuff in the distro, but none of the extras are likely> to be essential to your operation.> > If you pay RHEL for some level of support, you have someone you can> call, email, or web-form to help fix problems.> > > performance, os overheads on hardware, Networking etc.> > The only differences will be version 4 vs. version 5.> > If you want the latest versions of packages, e.g. PHP 5 instead of 4,> Apache 2.2 instead of 2.0, and several others (see the release notes> on CentOS 5), you want v5 of Centos or RHEL.> > RHEL offers several levels of support, but you must pay for one ticket> per box. That includes regular updates. If you can handle things> with mailing list help, then go for CentOS. Updates are free.> > > With Thanks> > and Regards Sujitkumar Shirkar > > Cheers,> -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.> bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com> The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not> steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be,> are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."> Romans 13:9 (NIV)> > _______________________________________________> Redhat-install-list mailing list> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to:> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com> Subject: unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Wish to Marry Now? 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Linux /dev/hdc5???????????? 706??????? 1488???? 6289416?? 83? Linux /dev/hdc6??????????? 1489??????? 1619???? 1052226?? 83? Linux /dev/hdc7??????????? 1620??????? 1750???? 1052226?? 83? Linux /dev/hdc8??????????? 1751??????? 1881???? 1052226?? 83? Linux /dev/hdc9??????????? 1882??????? 1945????? 514048+? 83? Linux /dev/hdc10?????????? 1946??????? 2009????? 514048+? 83? Linux # mount /dev/hdc8 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/hdc1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) /dev/hdc4 on /home type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdc7 on /opt type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdc9 on /tmp type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdc5 on /usr type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdc6 on /usr/local type ext3 (rw) /dev/hdc10 on /var type ext3 (rw) none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) # df -h Filesystem??????????? Size? Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc8???????????? 996M? 303M? 642M? 33% / /dev/hdc1????????????? 99M? 9.8M?? 84M? 11% /boot tmpfs???????????????? 188M???? 0? 188M?? 0% /dev/shm /dev/hdc4???????????? 487M?? 74M? 388M? 16% /home /dev/hdc7???????????? 996M? 316M? 629M? 34% /opt /dev/hdc9???????????? 487M?? 11M? 451M?? 3% /tmp /dev/hdc5???????????? 5.9G? 2.7G? 2.9G? 49% /usr /dev/hdc6???????????? 996M?? 34M? 911M?? 4% /usr/local /dev/hdc10??????????? 487M?? 73M? 389M? 16% /var Imran Shafiq Khan --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Rick Stevens wrote: From: Rick Stevens Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat To: jibreel_amin at yahoo.com, "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Date: Friday, 11 July, 2008, 10:07 PM imran shafiq wrote: > Hi > 1) I want Fedora to run With RH5. Fine. Fedora and RH5 don't have the same binaries and such, so other than sharing /boot and the swap, you really need enough free disk space (e.g. a partition) to install Fedora into. If you used LVM, you may be able to shrink your existing RH5 installation to free up space for the Fedora partition. Post the output of "fdisk -l" and the output of both "mount" and "df -h" so we can see just what your system has going on. > 2) I want to have the option to boot into Fedora or the RH5 in GRUB Fine. Entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf can handle that. The Fedora entries will need to specify the new partition as the "root=" parameter to the kernel line. > 3) I have a 1024MB swap in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another 1024MB swap Swap is swap. Yes, it can be used in both. > 4) I have a 100MB boot in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another 100MB boot If there's enough room in /boot to handle the Fedora kernels and initrd images along with the RH5 kernels and initrds, yes, it can be used. > Imran Shafiq Khan > > --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Karl Pearson wrote: > From: Karl Pearson > Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 9:31 PM > > On Thu, July 10, 2008 12:44 am, imran shafiq wrote: >> Hi Bob >> Thanks for reply. I have following partitions of RH5: >> 100 MB boot >> 1024 MB swap >> 8 GB root >> 3 GB opt >> Did I need another set of above partitions for Fedora. >> or I can use same boot and swap partitions for Fedora also. > > Are you going to replace RH5 or do you want Fedora to run With RH5? > > Do you want to have the option to boot into one or the other, or do you want > them to run simultaneously with one running in a window on the other? > > Are you leaving RH5 or wishing to upgrade to Fedora to get some of the newer > functions available in Fedora that have yet to be released into RH? > > Just a couple clarifying questions so we can better help. > > Karl >> >> Imran Shafiq Khan >> >> --- On Wed, 9/7/08, Bob McClure Jr wrote: >> From: Bob McClure Jr >> Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat >> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> Date: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008, 1:11 AM >> >> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: >>> Hi All >>> How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out >>> disturbing the Redhat AS 5. >> Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you >> have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the >> Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below >> cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. >> The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install >> another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. >> >> After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to boot either >> system. >> >>> Imran Shafiq Khan >> Cheers, >> -- >> Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >> bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com >> "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring >> of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that >> cannot hold water." 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Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ricks at nerd.com Wed Jul 16 21:25:38 2008 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:25:38 -0700 Subject: install fedora on RedHat In-Reply-To: <889883.84471.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <889883.84471.qm@web31107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <487E6752.50203@nerd.com> imran shafiq wrote: > Dear Rick > As per your instruction following output is display. Ok. Let me clean it up and I'll add some comments > # fdisk -l > Disk /dev/hdc: 20.0 GB, 20020396544 bytes > 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hdc1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux > /dev/hdc2 706 2434 13888192+ 0f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/hdc3 14 144 1052257+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris > /dev/hdc4 145 208 514080 83 Linux > /dev/hdc5 706 1488 6289416 83 Linux > /dev/hdc6 1489 1619 1052226 83 Linux > /dev/hdc7 1620 1750 1052226 83 Linux > /dev/hdc8 1751 1881 1052226 83 Linux > /dev/hdc9 1882 1945 514048+ 83 Linux > /dev/hdc10 1946 2009 514048+ 83 Linux That's an odd layout. There's 498 cylinders not used in primary partitions (209 through 705) and 425 cylinders not used at the end of the extended partition (2010 through 2434). Background: On PC disks you can only have four (4) primary partitions, numbered 1 through 4 (in your case hdc1, hdc2, hdc3 and hdc4). ONE of those primary partitions can be an "extended" partition (and your hdc2 is that extended partition). All partitions numbered 5 or higher (in your case, hdc5 and up) actually exist INSIDE that extended partition. If that's hard to visualize, here's a rough chart: Cylinder: |1 13|14 144|145 208|209 705|706 2009|2010 2434| |------|--------|--------|--------|---------+---------| Pri Part: | hdc1 | hdc3 | hdc4 | unused | hdc2 | |------|--------|--------|--------|---------+---------| Part Num: | hdc1 | hdc3 | hdc4 | unused | hdc5-10 | unused | |------|--------|--------|--------|---------+---------| Now, just why it's set up like that, I don't know. This must've been a manual partitioning job, as I can't imagine any autopartition system that'd ignore 20% of your drive's raw capacity when setting up the primary partitions and 25% of your extended partition when setting up the partitions inside that. All told, almost 45% of your disk is unavailable for use. Like I said, it's odd. > # mount > /dev/hdc8 on / type ext3 (rw) > proc on /proc type proc (rw) > sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) > devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) > /dev/hdc1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) > tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) > /dev/hdc4 on /home type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hdc7 on /opt type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hdc9 on /tmp type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hdc5 on /usr type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hdc6 on /usr/local type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hdc10 on /var type ext3 (rw) > none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) > sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) > > # df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdc8 996M 303M 642M 33% / > /dev/hdc1 99M 9.8M 84M 11% /boot > tmpfs 188M 0 188M 0% /dev/shm > /dev/hdc4 487M 74M 388M 16% /home > /dev/hdc7 996M 316M 629M 34% /opt > /dev/hdc9 487M 11M 451M 3% /tmp > /dev/hdc5 5.9G 2.7G 2.9G 49% /usr > /dev/hdc6 996M 34M 911M 4% /usr/local > /dev/hdc10 487M 73M 389M 16% /var Well, there's free space on the drive, but it's all in the wrong spots. Now, for the $64,000 question...can you put Fedora on the drive? The answer is "yes", but you have to do some fancy maneuvering and it's not trivial. Here it is in a nutshell: Essentially, using fdisk you'd create a new swap partition using the unused part of the extended partition (it'd be called hdc11) and give it the partition type of "f". You'd do a "mkswap /dev/hdc11" to make it into a swap partition and you'd "swapoff /dev/hdc3" and "swapon /dev/hdc11" to make it active. That makes /dev/hdc3 (your current swap partition) unused. Next, with fdisk, you'd change hdc3's partition type to 83 (Linux) and format it with the ext3 filesystem (this will become your new /home partition). Next, you would mount /dev/hda3 somewhere (say, "/mnt/newhome") and copy ALL of the content from /home to /mnt/newhome. For example, as root: cp -a /home /mnt/newhome Next, you'd unmount /home and /mnt/newhome. You'd relabel /dev/hdc4 with some unused name and relabel hdc3 with "/home": e2label /dev/hdc4 /scratch e2label /dev/hdc3 /home You'd then mount hdc4 as /home: mount /dev/hdc4 /home At this point, also check /etc/fstab. If it uses "LABEL=/home" you're fine. If it uses "/dev/hdc4", change it to "/dev/hdc3". Ok, now you have hdc3 as your new "/home" filesystem. /dev/hdc4 is now unused and it has a bunch of unallocated space immediately following it. Using fdisk, you'd destroy hdc4 and recreate it, starting at cylinder 145 and ending on cylinder 705. Set it's file type to 83 (Linux). Now you have a Linux partition, /dev/hdc4, starting on cylinder 145 and ending on cylinder 705. This will become the "/" filesystem for your Fedora installation. Both Fedora and RHEL can share the /boot partition (/dev/hdc1), but when you install Fedora, make SURE you use a single partition and make sure it installs on /dev/hdc4. You'll probably need to edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf file after the install and make SURE that the Fedora kernel lines have "root=/dev/hdc4" in them (the ones for RHEL will have "root=/dev/hda8" in them). Like I said, it's not trivial and if you make ONE error, you'll lose a lot of stuff. Depending where the error occurs it may not be recoverable. That's it. If you're confident, then have at it. Two things though: 1. Make DAMNED SURE you have an adequate backup of the system in case something goes wrong. 2. Do all the repartitioning, copies and stuff like that in single user mode (run level 1 or "S"). Do NOT attempt to do this stuff when the system is running normally (run levels 2 through 5). You WILL have issues in that case. This stuff is not for the faint of heart. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! > --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Rick Stevens wrote: > From: Rick Stevens > Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat > To: jibreel_amin at yahoo.com, "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" > Date: Friday, 11 July, 2008, 10:07 PM > > imran shafiq wrote: >> Hi >> 1) I want Fedora to run With RH5. > > Fine. Fedora and RH5 don't have the same binaries and such, so other > than sharing /boot and the swap, you really need enough free disk space > (e.g. a partition) to install Fedora into. If you used LVM, you may be > able to shrink your existing RH5 installation to free up space for the > Fedora partition. > > Post the output of "fdisk -l" and the output of both > "mount" and "df -h" > so we can see just what your system has going on. > >> 2) I want to have the option to boot into Fedora or the RH5 in GRUB > > Fine. Entries in > /boot/grub/grub.conf can handle that. The Fedora > entries will need to specify the new partition as the "root=" > parameter > to the kernel line. > >> 3) I have a 1024MB swap in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another > 1024MB swap > > Swap is swap. Yes, it can be used in both. > >> 4) I have a 100MB boot in RH5 can I used it in Fedora? or It need another > 100MB boot > > If there's enough room in /boot to handle the Fedora kernels and initrd > images along with the RH5 kernels and initrds, yes, it can be used. > >> Imran Shafiq Khan >> >> --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Karl Pearson wrote: >> From: Karl Pearson >> Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat >> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 9:31 PM >> >> On Thu, July 10, 2008 12:44 am, imran shafiq wrote: >>> Hi Bob >>> > Thanks for reply. I have following partitions of RH5: >>> 100 MB boot >>> 1024 MB swap >>> 8 GB root >>> 3 GB opt >>> Did I need another set of above partitions for Fedora. >>> or I can use same boot and swap partitions for Fedora also. >> Are you going to replace RH5 or do you want Fedora to run With RH5? >> >> Do you want to have the option to boot into one or the other, or do you > want >> them to run simultaneously with one running in a window on the other? >> >> Are you leaving RH5 or wishing to upgrade to Fedora to get some of the > newer >> functions available in Fedora that have yet to be released into RH? >> >> Just a couple clarifying questions so we can better help. >> >> Karl >>> Imran Shafiq Khan >>> >>> --- On Wed, 9/7/08, Bob McClure Jr wrote: >>> From: > Bob McClure Jr >>> Subject: Re: install fedora on RedHat >>> To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com >>> Date: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008, 1:11 AM >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:58:17AM -0700, imran shafiq wrote: >>>> Hi All >>>> How to install a fedora on a machine having Redhat AS 5 with out >>>> disturbing the Redhat AS 5. >>> Depends on your disk layout and how much spare space you have. If you >>> have sufficient unallocated room, set up a separate partition for the >>> Fedora system. If you have to have a separate /boot partition below >>> cylinder 1024, you may be able to share your existing one with RHAS 5. >>> The simplest solution, if you have room in the box, is to install >>> another hard disk, and install Fedora to that. >>> >>> After the install, you can modify your grub.conf to > boot either >>> system. >>> >>>> Imran Shafiq Khan >>> Cheers, >>> -- >>> Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >>> bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com >>> "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the > spring >>> of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that >>> cannot hold water." Jeremiah 2:13 (NIV) >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer rps2 at nerd.com - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - - - - C program run. C program crash. 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If you find it in the list, the config program will allow you more useful options. If you don't find your monitor in the list and you know what its capabilities are, select one of the Generic monitors that most closely fits yours. > Thanks > -Dave Vantine > > -- > Thanks > Dave Vantine Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Ephesians 6:4 (NIV) From dvantine at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 14:16:50 2008 From: dvantine at gmail.com (vbs) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:16:50 -0400 Subject: Video display not adjustable In-Reply-To: <20080728182005.GA19661@bobcat.bobcatos.com> References: <20080728182005.GA19661@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: It does not seem to know what monitor it is and lists it as autoconfigured. If I select the configure button there are two options Generic CRT and Generic LCD but it does not let me select one or the other and save it. Likewise if I select the show monitors check box and find the Dell monitors it does not allow any changes as well. One other interesting note is when I run the system-config-display from the command prompt it indicates that the resolution 800x600. If I run the gui with startx and go into the display properties the resolution is listed as 640x480. The Dell 15" LCD monitor indicates that it is running 640x480 in either configuration settings but that optimum should be 1024x768 Thanks On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 01:55:29PM -0400, vbs wrote: > > I have an old HP Netserver LC that I tried to install RH 5 using the GUI > and > > was not able to. I was able to install it in text mode. > > > > > > > > The problem I have now is when I run the GUI the only option is the > 640x480. > > The onboard video is a Cirrus logic GD5446. The display options will not > let > > me change the setting. It would probably be acceptable if I could get it > to > > work at 800x600 any ideas would be appreciated. > > When you (as root) run system-config-display, does it recognize what > monitor you are using? > > I'm guessing not, and the system will go for the safest configuration > when in doubt. Use the pull-down menu to see if you can tell it what > monitor you are using. If you find it in the list, the config program > will allow you more useful options. If you don't find your monitor in > the list and you know what its capabilities are, select one of the > Generic monitors that most closely fits yours. > > > Thanks > > -Dave Vantine > > > > -- > > Thanks > > Dave Vantine > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com > Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in > the training and instruction of the Lord. Ephesians 6:4 (NIV) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- Thanks Dave Vantine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ricks at nerd.com Tue Jul 29 16:59:45 2008 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:59:45 -0700 Subject: Video display not adjustable In-Reply-To: References: <20080728182005.GA19661@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <488F4C81.3050201@nerd.com> vbs wrote: > It does not seem to know what monitor it is and lists it as autoconfigured. > If I select the configure button there are two options Generic CRT and > Generic LCD but it does not let me select one or the other and save it. > Likewise if I select the show monitors check box and find the Dell monitors > it does not allow any changes as well. > > One other interesting note is when I run the system-config-display from the > command prompt it indicates that the resolution 800x600. If I run the gui > with startx and go into the display properties the resolution is listed as > 640x480. > > The Dell 15" LCD monitor indicates that it is running 640x480 in either > configuration settings but that optimum should be 1024x768 In that display, did you checkmark the "Show all monitors" option? That begin the display of LOTS of monitors and yours may be in it. Even if it isn't, if you click on the little ">" symbol next to the "Generic CRT" or "Generic LCD", it should display more selections. When you select one of those monitors, you should get the "OK" button highlighted. > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Bob McClure Jr wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 01:55:29PM -0400, vbs wrote: >>> I have an old HP Netserver LC that I tried to install RH 5 using the GUI >> and >>> was not able to. I was able to install it in text mode. >>> >>> >>> >>> The problem I have now is when I run the GUI the only option is the >> 640x480. >>> The onboard video is a Cirrus logic GD5446. The display options will not >> let >>> me change the setting. It would probably be acceptable if I could get it >> to >>> work at 800x600 any ideas would be appreciated. >> When you (as root) run system-config-display, does it recognize what >> monitor you are using? >> >> I'm guessing not, and the system will go for the safest configuration >> when in doubt. Use the pull-down menu to see if you can tell it what >> monitor you are using. If you find it in the list, the config program >> will allow you more useful options. If you don't find your monitor in >> the list and you know what its capabilities are, select one of the >> Generic monitors that most closely fits yours. >> >>> Thanks >>> -Dave Vantine >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks >>> Dave Vantine >> Cheers, >> -- >> Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. >> bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com >> Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in >> the training and instruction of the Lord. 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