From Kenyetta.Johnson at us.army.mil Fri May 8 18:51:09 2009 From: Kenyetta.Johnson at us.army.mil (Johnson, Kenyetta A Mrs CIV USA NETCOM/9TH SC A) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:51:09 -0700 Subject: RHEL Partitioining Scheme (UNCLASSIFIED) Message-ID: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Hi Linux Gurus, I'm installing RHEL v5.2 on a virtual machine with 1GB RAM and 50GB storage. The image will be used to install a kickstart server to be used for building systems to support network operation COTS applications. I would like some feedback regarding designing a RHEL partitioning scheme. I've identified the following partitions: /, /boot /home, /opt (netops apps), /usr /usr/local, /var, and /tmp. I receive the following message: "Your selected packages require 1411 MB of free space for installation, but you do not have enough available. You can change your selections or reboot." The attempted filesystem layout is as follows: LVM Volume Groups VolGroup00 LogVol02 /tmp ext3 320 LogVol00 / ext3 1472 LogVol01 /home ext3 512 Hard Drives /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /boot ext3 101 1 13 /dev/sda2 swap 1027 14 144 /dev/sda3 /var ext3 384 145 193 /dev/sda4 Extended 2580 194 522 /dev/sda5 /usr ext3 250 194 225 /dev/sda6 VolGroup00 LVM PV 2329 226 522 Thank you, KJ Department of the Army US Army NETCOM/9TH SC(A) Fort Huachuca, AZ 85613-7070 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE From ricks at nerd.com Fri May 8 21:18:52 2009 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:18:52 -0700 Subject: RHEL Partitioining Scheme (UNCLASSIFIED) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A04A1BC.3020801@nerd.com> Johnson, Kenyetta A Mrs CIV USA NETCOM/9TH SC A wrote: > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > Caveats: NONE > > Hi Linux Gurus, > > I'm installing RHEL v5.2 on a virtual machine with 1GB RAM and 50GB > storage. > The image will be used to install a kickstart server to be used for > building systems to support network operation COTS applications. I > would like some feedback regarding designing a RHEL partitioning scheme. > I've identified the following partitions: /, /boot /home, /opt (netops > apps), /usr /usr/local, /var, and /tmp. > I receive the following message: > > "Your selected packages require 1411 MB of free space for installation, > but you do not have enough available. You can change your selections or > reboot." > > The attempted filesystem layout is as follows: > > LVM Volume Groups > VolGroup00 > LogVol02 /tmp ext3 320 > LogVol00 / ext3 1472 > LogVol01 /home ext3 512 > > Hard Drives > /dev/sda > /dev/sda1 /boot ext3 101 1 13 > /dev/sda2 swap 1027 14 144 > /dev/sda3 /var ext3 384 145 193 > /dev/sda4 Extended 2580 194 522 > /dev/sda5 /usr ext3 250 194 225 > /dev/sda6 VolGroup00 LVM PV 2329 226 522 There are two things many people forget with ext3 filesystems. The first is that, by default, 5% of the disk blocks are reserved for the root user. That immediately drops the usable space on / to 1398MB-- which is less than the 1411MB the install needs. The second is that the ext3 journals take additional space, so that 1398MB will be reduced even more. I have to also say that this is a bit of an odd layout. Is there a reason you created normal partitions for /var and /usr and an LVM for /, /tmp, and /home? For a bootable system, you only need a normal partition for /boot (as grub doesn't grok LVM yet). You can use an LVM for the rest of the lot (well, you may want to keep swap as a real partition as well). Using LVM for everything except /boot and swap is generally a good idea. Since disks are much faster now, creating a single logical volume and using a single, monolithic filesystem for everything isn't anywhere near the performance penalty it used to be and you don't run into space crunches as easily. If you like separate "partitions", then using separate logical volumes is fine as you can expand the various logical volumes you need onto additional disks when the time comes. I generally only use partitions or separate LVs if I need something like quotas or such. In such cases, I generally use this formula, tweaked as appropriate for the storage I have available and possible use of the system: 100MB for /boot (you just have kernels and initrds there) 2xRAM for swap 4GB for /var (make sure you enable log file compression) 2GB for / (possibly more) 4GB for /home (if there's a lot of users) rest for /usr As I said, tweak as needed. Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. Batteries not included. Etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Have you noticed that "human readable" configuration file - - directives are beginning to resemble COBOL code? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From buzdavis at earthlink.net Sun May 24 01:59:16 2009 From: buzdavis at earthlink.net (Buz Davis) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 21:59:16 -0400 Subject: how high a version of Fedora can I expect to run well Message-ID: <4A18A9F4.1010009@earthlink.net> Guys, I have a couple of Linux boxes, both with 500 mhz AMD-K6-2 processors. One has 256 k ram and the other 320. I would like to (finally) upgrade from RH9 to Fedora. (Actually, I tried the other night to upgrade one using a set of disks that came with a book. The update started but then aborted saying the second cd was invalid. Fortunately, the system will still run - grub thinks it is booting a version of Fedora but most everything else is left-over from RH9). So I started looking at vendors of Linux install CD's, and found that Fedora doesn't seem to include system requirements in its descriptions. From the little I could glean from what I saw I think I might be able to run Fedora 9, but would like to have a more knowledgeable opinion. I mainly use these machines to surf the internet. I do some console-oriented C programming, and would like to learn to program for the X windows system, including 2D vector graphics. Is there a better choice than Fedora 9 ? Thanks, Buz Davis From harold at hallikainen.com Sun May 24 03:12:24 2009 From: harold at hallikainen.com (Harold Hallikainen) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: how high a version of Fedora can I expect to run well In-Reply-To: <4A18A9F4.1010009@earthlink.net> References: <4A18A9F4.1010009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: While not directly answering your question, you may want to try one of the Fedora Live CDs. This lets you try stuff out without messing with your current installation. I'm currently running Fedora 9 on my server and Fedora 10 on my laptop. Fedora 11 is due out in a few days. Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com - Advertising opportunities available! From bob at bobcatos.com Sun May 24 03:10:32 2009 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:10:32 -0500 Subject: how high a version of Fedora can I expect to run well In-Reply-To: <4A18A9F4.1010009@earthlink.net> References: <4A18A9F4.1010009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20090524031032.GA24180@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Hi Buz, On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 09:59:16PM -0400, Buz Davis wrote: > Guys, > > I have a couple of Linux boxes, both with 500 mhz AMD-K6-2 processors. > One has 256 k ram and the other 320. I presume you mean 256MB and 320MB ram. > I would like to (finally) upgrade > from RH9 to Fedora. (Actually, I tried the other night to upgrade one > using a set of disks that came with a book. The update started but then > aborted saying the second cd was invalid. I don't know if it's still the case, but it used to be that when you booted to do a media check, you needed to specify "ide=nodma", i.e. at the boot: prompt, you put linux ide=nodma Then after getting a good media check, you boot normally and skip the media check. > Fortunately, the system will > still run - grub thinks it is booting a version of Fedora but most > everything else is left-over from RH9). I wouldn't try that kind of jump from RH9 to nearly anything current. As you've seen, it'll almost certainly be problematic. I'd save the contents of /etc for reference, and /home to be restored, and do a fresh install. > So I started looking at vendors of Linux install CD's, and found that > Fedora doesn't seem to include system requirements in its descriptions. > From the little I could glean from what I saw I think I might be able to > run Fedora 9, but would like to have a more knowledgeable opinion. IIRC, while linux will run on 256MB of RAM, the GUI installer needs more than that, so, when booting to install specify text mode: linux text > I mainly use these machines to surf the internet. I do some > console-oriented C programming, and would like to learn to program for > the X windows system, including 2D vector graphics. Is there a better > choice than Fedora 9 ? Maybe, but I don't have anything to recommend. I tried to install CentOS 5 on an antique IBM Thinkpad that I maxed out at 512MB and had problems. But I was able to install Fedora 9 on it, and it works fine. BTW, for a leaner and meaner GUI, I recommend IceWM or XFCE. Gnome or KDE may struggle on that small a RAM complement. > Thanks, > > Buz Davis Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. 1 Timothy 6:11 (NIV) From bc98kinney at yahoo.com Sun May 24 22:37:55 2009 From: bc98kinney at yahoo.com (Bob Kinney) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: how high a version of Fedora can I expect to run well Message-ID: <657742.16382.qm@web112416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 5/23/09, Buz Davis wrote: > From: Buz Davis > Subject: how high a version of Fedora can I expect to run well > To: redhat-install-list at redhat.com > Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 8:59 PM > Guys, > > I have a couple of Linux boxes, both with 500 mhz AMD-K6-2 > processors. > One has 256 k ram and the other 320. I would like to > (finally) upgrade > from RH9 to Fedora. (Actually, I tried the other > night to upgrade one using a set of disks that came with a > book. The update started but then aborted saying the > second cd was invalid. Fortunately, the system will > still run - grub thinks it is booting a version of Fedora > but most everything else is left-over from RH9). > > So I started looking at vendors of Linux install CD's, and > found that > Fedora doesn't seem to include system requirements in its > descriptions. > From the little I could glean from what I saw I think I > might be able to run Fedora 9, but would like to have a more > knowledgeable opinion. > > I mainly use these machines to surf the internet. I > do some console-oriented C programming, and would like to > learn to program for the X windows system, including 2D > vector graphics. Is there a better choice than Fedora > 9 ? > > Thanks, > > Buz Davis > > _You might want to take a look at some of the minimalist distros. I like Puppy Linux for old hardware. Damn Small Linux turned an old laptop with 256MB into a pretty nice media player for me, but I found it too tedious trying to add functionality. To its credit, it used only 20MB of memory, including the window manager. --bk From buzdavis at earthlink.net Mon May 25 00:13:38 2009 From: buzdavis at earthlink.net (Buz Davis) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:13:38 -0400 Subject: how high a version of Fedora can I expect to run well Message-ID: <4A19E2B2.5000103@earthlink.net> Bob and Harold, Thanks for the good advice. Bob, you were right: I meant 256 mb and 320 mb. When I got my first PC it had 128 k, and that was a LOT! I just haven't grown-up as quickly as the PC did. Thanks! Buz From karlp at ourldsfamily.com Mon May 25 05:41:55 2009 From: karlp at ourldsfamily.com (Karl Pearson) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:41:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: how high a version of Fedora can I expect to run well In-Reply-To: <4A19E2B2.5000103@earthlink.net> References: <4A19E2B2.5000103@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6462aa546226dc9f67eb412399c885ad.squirrel@webmail.ourldsfamily.com> On Sun, May 24, 2009 6:13 pm, Buz Davis wrote: > Bob and Harold, > > Thanks for the good advice. Bob, you were right: I meant 256 mb and 320 > mb. When I got my first PC it had 128 k, and that was a LOT! I just > haven't grown-up as quickly as the PC did. > I would add my 2 cents for DSL ( http://damnsmalllinux.org ) and Puppy Linux. I prefer DSL but not with the default windowmanager. I prefer Fluxbox. Puppy will work fine, too, I suspect. With DSL, the newer versions are easy to update/upgrade. I haven't used Puppy enough. I've never installed it to a hard drive. I have DSL installed on my cell phone as an embedded OS. That means, I plug it into any MSWin PC and run a batch file and QEMU comes up and runs DSL inside. If a Linux PC has either qemu or has WINE enabled, I can run it from there, too. HTH, Karl > Thanks! > > Buz > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > --- Karl Pearson Karlp at ourldsfamily.com Owner/Administrator of the sites at http://ourldsfamily.com --- "To mess up your Linux PC, you have to really work at it; to mess up a microsoft PC you just have to work on it." --- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 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(Re: Check out my photos on Facebook) In-Reply-To: <3feeae6d0677711b2c595d7a029e3748@10.22.166.209> References: <3feeae6d0677711b2c595d7a029e3748@10.22.166.209> Message-ID: <3282E72A-110A-4748-A49A-735C0B662538@petermount.com> It looks spammy to me. -- Peter Mount Web Development for Business Mobile: 0411 276602 info at petermount.com http://www.petermount.com On 29/05/2009, at 7:45 PM, Parveen Khera wrote: > > facebook > > Parveen Khera has: > 1 friend > 0 photos > 0 notes > 0 wall posts > 0 groups > Check out my photos on Facebook > > Hi redhat-install-list at redhat.com, > > I invited you to join Facebook a while back and wanted to remind you > that once you join, we'll be able to connect online, share photos, > organize groups and events, and more. > > Thanks, > Parveen > > To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: > http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=596897823&k=Z61X43Q43WYFUCDBPCV6TSV&r > > See who else has invited you to Facebook: > Naqi Khan > 95 friends > Ntoughe Guys-serge > 77 friends > redhat-install-list at redhat.com was invited to join Facebook by > Parveen Khera. 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(Re: Check out my photos on Facebook) In-Reply-To: <3282E72A-110A-4748-A49A-735C0B662538@petermount.com> References: <3feeae6d0677711b2c595d7a029e3748@10.22.166.209> <3282E72A-110A-4748-A49A-735C0B662538@petermount.com> Message-ID: i wouldn't click on anything , this definitely looks like spam --Bhavesh. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Peter Mount wrote: > It looks spammy to me. > -- > Peter Mount > Web Development for Business > Mobile: 0411 276602 > info at petermount.com > http://www.petermount.com > > On 29/05/2009, at 7:45 PM, Parveen Khera wrote: > > facebook [image: Parveen Khera]Parveen > Khera has: > 1 friend > 0 photos > 0 notes > 0 wall posts > 0 groupsCheck out my photos on Facebook > Hi redhat-install-list at redhat.com, > > I invited you to join Facebook a while back and wanted to remind you that > once you join, we'll be able to connect online, share photos, organize > groups and events, and more. > > Thanks, > Parveen > > To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: > http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=596897823&k=Z61X43Q43WYFUCDBPCV6TSV&r > See who else has invited you to Facebook:[image: Naqi Khan]Naqi > Khan > 95 friends > [image: Ntoughe Guys-serge]Ntoughe > Guys-serge > 77 friends > redhat-install-list at redhat.com was invited to join Facebook by Parveen > Khera. 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URL: From jreyn at us.ibm.com Fri May 29 14:22:22 2009 From: jreyn at us.ibm.com (John Reynolds) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:22:22 -0700 Subject: Is this spam? (Re: Check out my photos on Facebook) In-Reply-To: References: <3feeae6d0677711b2c595d7a029e3748@10.22.166.209> <3282E72A-110A-4748-A49A-735C0B662538@petermount.com> Message-ID: Offhand, I'd say someone got their address book vacuumed up when they joined Facebook, and it sent a join-up message to everyone listed. I've seen that happen with those 'Invite your friends to join!' buttons on social network sites. They don't ask you to list the people you want to invite, they grab every e-mail address you have and send out the invitation. Annoying and sometimes embarrassing. john r redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com wrote on 05/29/2009 07:00:14 AM: > > Re: Is this spam? (Re: Check out my photos on Facebook) > > bhavesh bhanushali > > to: > > Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > 05/29/2009 07:02 AM > > > i wouldn't click on anything , this definitely looks like spam > > --Bhavesh. > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Peter Mount wrote: > It looks spammy to me. > > -- > Peter Mount > Web Development for Business > Mobile: 0411 276602 > info at petermount.com > http://www.petermount.com > > On 29/05/2009, at 7:45 PM, Parveen Khera wrote: > > > Check out my photos on Facebook > > Hi redhat-install-list at redhat.com, > > I invited you to join Facebook a while back and wanted to remind you > that once you join, we'll be able to connect online, share photos, > organize groups and events, and more. > > Thanks, > Parveen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From akelly at corisweb.org Fri May 29 14:50:48 2009 From: akelly at corisweb.org (Andrew Kelly) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:50:48 +0200 Subject: Is this spam? (Re: Check out my photos on Facebook) In-Reply-To: References: <3feeae6d0677711b2c595d7a029e3748@10.22.166.209> <3282E72A-110A-4748-A49A-735C0B662538@petermount.com> Message-ID: <1243608648.4482.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 07:22 -0700, John Reynolds wrote: > > Offhand, I'd say someone got their address book vacuumed up when they > joined Facebook, and it sent a join-up message to everyone listed. > I've seen that happen with those 'Invite your friends to join!' > buttons on social network sites. They don't ask you to list the > people you want to invite, they grab every e-mail address you have and > send out the invitation. Annoying and sometimes embarrassing. Indeed. Exactly this happened to my wife this week, when she installed ooVoo to be able to do a little webcam chatting with some friends in the US. Really very embarrassing. Although, oddly enough, one of her physicians who got spammed with it as well wrote her back to thank her for the great tip and announced he'd be using it to have some closer contact with some of his out of country patients. So I guess you never know.... Andy > john r > > redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com wrote on 05/29/2009 07:00:14 > AM: > > > > > Re: Is this spam? (Re: Check out my photos on Facebook) > > > > bhavesh bhanushali > > > > to: > > > > Getting started with Red Hat Linux > > > > 05/29/2009 07:02 AM > > > > > > i wouldn't click on anything , this definitely looks like spam > > > > --Bhavesh. > > > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Peter Mount > wrote: > > It looks spammy to me. > > > > -- > > Peter Mount > > Web Development for Business > > Mobile: 0411 276602 > > info at petermount.com > > http://www.petermount.com > > > > On 29/05/2009, at 7:45 PM, Parveen Khera wrote: > > > > > > Check out my photos on Facebook > > > > Hi redhat-install-list at redhat.com, > > > > I invited you to join Facebook a while back and wanted to remind you > > that once you join, we'll be able to connect online, share photos, > > organize groups and events, and more. > > > > Thanks, > > Parveen > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From brkittycat at verizon.net Sun May 31 02:32:48 2009 From: brkittycat at verizon.net (Brenda Radford) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 22:32:48 -0400 Subject: Kernel panic installing RHEL 5.3 Message-ID: <7E65E8A48878402D8C9ABC0221EC2B35@brendace5b4803> My install of RHEL 5.3 is giving me a Kernel panic message. This is the output on the screen. Memory for crash kernel (0x0 to 0x0) notwithin permissible range Red Hat nash version 5.1.19.6 starting Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while . . . Found volume group "VolGroup00" using metadata type lvm2 /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel? Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver. 0 logical volume(s) in volume group "VolGroup00" now active Unable to access resume device (dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01) mount: Could not find filesystem '/dev/root' setuproot: moving /dev failed: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! What do I do? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: