From mccarty at yournetguard.com Thu Jan 7 23:04:21 2010 From: mccarty at yournetguard.com (Ronald Mccarty) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:04:21 -0600 Subject: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram Message-ID: <29261F7D-0B7B-461C-812B-D87F3B2A4CF2@yournetguard.com> Hey, Hope someone can give me some help here... I have a Dell 1850 with 4 X 1 GB memory sticks that the linux kernel is only recognizing 256 MB...well actually 249 it's reporting: [root at asvhyp1 proc]# free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 249 98 150 0 8 64 -/+ buffers/cache: 24 224 Swap: 2047 0 2047 I originally thought it was a Xen / Kernel issue; however, booting the system to a non zen kernel reports the same issue. (dmesg is reporting 256 MB low mem, and no high) It seems like I saw something years ago when getting 32-bit systems to see 4 GB was more magic than science, but I'm stumped. The Dell BIOS is showing the 4 GB. If you don't have any insight, maybe some tips on helpful commands would be useful. Thanks, --ron From ricks at nerd.com Fri Jan 8 00:43:03 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:43:03 -0800 Subject: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram In-Reply-To: <29261F7D-0B7B-461C-812B-D87F3B2A4CF2@yournetguard.com> References: <29261F7D-0B7B-461C-812B-D87F3B2A4CF2@yournetguard.com> Message-ID: <4B467F97.8050501@nerd.com> On 01/07/2010 03:04 PM, Ronald Mccarty wrote: > Hey, > > Hope someone can give me some help here... > > I have a Dell 1850 with 4 X 1 GB memory sticks that the linux kernel is only recognizing 256 MB...well actually 249 it's reporting: > > [root at asvhyp1 proc]# free -m > total used free shared buffers cached > Mem: 249 98 150 0 8 64 > -/+ buffers/cache: 24 224 > Swap: 2047 0 2047 > > > I originally thought it was a Xen / Kernel issue; however, booting the system to a non zen kernel reports the same issue. (dmesg is reporting 256 MB low mem, and no high) > > It seems like I saw something years ago when getting 32-bit systems to see 4 GB was more magic than science, but I'm stumped. > > The Dell BIOS is showing the 4 GB. > > If you don't have any insight, maybe some tips on helpful commands would be useful. We need to know what RHEL version you're running. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mccarty at yournetguard.com Fri Jan 8 01:46:44 2010 From: mccarty at yournetguard.com (Ronald Mccarty) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:46:44 -0600 Subject: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram In-Reply-To: <4B467F97.8050501@nerd.com> References: <29261F7D-0B7B-461C-812B-D87F3B2A4CF2@yournetguard.com> <4B467F97.8050501@nerd.com> Message-ID: <1DAF3034-51FC-4996-9FA1-5C8BE4C551A0@yournetguard.com> Yes indeed. RHEL 5.4. 5.3 on this same system did not have the issue. Brand new install... --ron On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/07/2010 03:04 PM, Ronald Mccarty wrote: >> Hey, >> >> Hope someone can give me some help here... >> >> I have a Dell 1850 with 4 X 1 GB memory sticks that the linux kernel is only recognizing 256 MB...well actually 249 it's reporting: >> >> [root at asvhyp1 proc]# free -m >> total used free shared buffers cached >> Mem: 249 98 150 0 8 64 >> -/+ buffers/cache: 24 224 >> Swap: 2047 0 2047 >> >> >> I originally thought it was a Xen / Kernel issue; however, booting the system to a non zen kernel reports the same issue. (dmesg is reporting 256 MB low mem, and no high) >> >> It seems like I saw something years ago when getting 32-bit systems to see 4 GB was more magic than science, but I'm stumped. >> >> The Dell BIOS is showing the 4 GB. >> >> If you don't have any insight, maybe some tips on helpful commands would be useful. > > We need to know what RHEL version you're running. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From bret_stern at machinemanagement.com Fri Jan 8 01:49:41 2010 From: bret_stern at machinemanagement.com (Bret) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:49:41 -0800 Subject: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram In-Reply-To: <4B467F97.8050501@nerd.com> References: <29261F7D-0B7B-461C-812B-D87F3B2A4CF2@yournetguard.com> <4B467F97.8050501@nerd.com> Message-ID: <000001ca9004$d9c8b9c0$0d00a8c0@bjsworkstation> The bios on Dell 1850 has a OS install setting which can cause this. > -----Original Message----- > From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of > Rick Stevens > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:43 PM > To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux > Subject: Re: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram > > On 01/07/2010 03:04 PM, Ronald Mccarty wrote: > > Hey, > > > > Hope someone can give me some help here... > > > > I have a Dell 1850 with 4 X 1 GB memory sticks that the > linux kernel is only recognizing 256 MB...well actually 249 > it's reporting: > > > > [root at asvhyp1 proc]# free -m > > total used free shared > buffers cached > > Mem: 249 98 150 0 > 8 64 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 24 224 > > Swap: 2047 0 2047 > > > > > > I originally thought it was a Xen / Kernel issue; however, > booting the > > system to a non zen kernel reports the same issue. (dmesg is > > reporting 256 MB low mem, and no high) > > > > It seems like I saw something years ago when getting 32-bit > systems to see 4 GB was more magic than science, but I'm stumped. > > > > The Dell BIOS is showing the 4 GB. > > > > If you don't have any insight, maybe some tips on helpful > commands would be useful. > > We need to know what RHEL version you're running. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - > - - > - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From mccarty at yournetguard.com Fri Jan 8 05:51:48 2010 From: mccarty at yournetguard.com (Ronald Mccarty) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:51:48 -0600 Subject: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram In-Reply-To: <000001ca9004$d9c8b9c0$0d00a8c0@bjsworkstation> References: <29261F7D-0B7B-461C-812B-D87F3B2A4CF2@yournetguard.com> <4B467F97.8050501@nerd.com> <000001ca9004$d9c8b9c0$0d00a8c0@bjsworkstation> Message-ID: Bret, I appreciate it! I believe that is indeed the issue...the batter was acting up on the system, and it lost some bios settings for the raid controller as well... --ron On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Bret wrote: > The bios on Dell 1850 has a OS install setting which > can cause this. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com >> [mailto:redhat-install-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of >> Rick Stevens >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:43 PM >> To: Getting started with Red Hat Linux >> Subject: Re: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram >> >> On 01/07/2010 03:04 PM, Ronald Mccarty wrote: >>> Hey, >>> >>> Hope someone can give me some help here... >>> >>> I have a Dell 1850 with 4 X 1 GB memory sticks that the >> linux kernel is only recognizing 256 MB...well actually 249 >> it's reporting: >>> >>> [root at asvhyp1 proc]# free -m >>> total used free shared >> buffers cached >>> Mem: 249 98 150 0 >> 8 64 >>> -/+ buffers/cache: 24 224 >>> Swap: 2047 0 2047 >>> >>> >>> I originally thought it was a Xen / Kernel issue; however, >> booting the >>> system to a non zen kernel reports the same issue. (dmesg is >>> reporting 256 MB low mem, and no high) >>> >>> It seems like I saw something years ago when getting 32-bit >> systems to see 4 GB was more magic than science, but I'm stumped. >>> >>> The Dell BIOS is showing the 4 GB. >>> >>> If you don't have any insight, maybe some tips on helpful >> commands would be useful. >> >> We need to know what RHEL version you're running. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - >> - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - >> - - >> - If Windows isn't a virus, then it sure as hell is a carrier! - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Redhat-install-list mailing list >> Redhat-install-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list >> To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: >> redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com >> Subject: unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From ricks at nerd.com Fri Jan 8 17:58:58 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:58:58 -0800 Subject: System Only Recognizing 256 MB Ram In-Reply-To: <000001ca9004$d9c8b9c0$0d00a8c0@bjsworkstation> References: <29261F7D-0B7B-461C-812B-D87F3B2A4CF2@yournetguard.com> <4B467F97.8050501@nerd.com> <000001ca9004$d9c8b9c0$0d00a8c0@bjsworkstation> Message-ID: <4B477262.20602@nerd.com> On 01/07/2010 05:49 PM, Bret wrote: > The bios on Dell 1850 has a OS install setting which > can cause this. That was my next idea. Nice catch, Bret. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - A day for firm decisions!!! Well, then again, maybe not! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From truelyli at 126.com Tue Jan 12 16:13:58 2010 From: truelyli at 126.com (truelyli) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:13:58 +0800 (CST) Subject: Boot from floppy? Message-ID: <16028936.919361263312838166.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app35.126.com> Hello, Does it must need a floppy disk to boot the client computer, can it boot from the network, using somthing like PXE? Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ricks at nerd.com Tue Jan 12 17:36:32 2010 From: ricks at nerd.com (Rick Stevens) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:36:32 -0800 Subject: Boot from floppy? In-Reply-To: <16028936.919361263312838166.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app35.126.com> References: <16028936.919361263312838166.JavaMail.coremail@bj126app35.126.com> Message-ID: <4B4CB320.2040100@nerd.com> On 01/12/2010 08:13 AM, truelyli wrote: > Hello, > Does it must need a floppy disk to boot the client computer, can it boot > from the network, using somthing like PXE? Installation can be done from CD, FLASH, hard disk or network (PXE). The system can run from hard disk or network (PXE). Installation documentation is available online at: http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.4/html/Installation_Guide/index.html For PXE installations, detailed instructions are in chapter 34 of the above manual. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks at nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - BASIC is the Computer Science version of `Scientific Creationism' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From blann at gte.net Fri Jan 15 22:04:38 2010 From: blann at gte.net (blann) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:04:38 -1000 Subject: boot problem Message-ID: <5F4F556C89B24C9FBD3C6DFE067E4AB4@homebf0fb2266c> Hi, Having a problem at boot for my FC5 linux on dual boot with WinXP. I manually powered down XP while it was trying to install an update. After that, when I went to boot Fedora, I got a final message: kernel panic- not syncing- attempted to kill init before that I got messages "unable to access resume device /dev/Vol Group00/logV01) could not find filesystem /dev/root I have a FC rescue CD which brings up a set of choices- but not sure what to try short of re-installation. Suggestions welcome- thanks- Marshall blann at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bob at bobcatos.com Sat Jan 16 02:13:35 2010 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:13:35 -0600 Subject: boot problem In-Reply-To: <5F4F556C89B24C9FBD3C6DFE067E4AB4@homebf0fb2266c> References: <5F4F556C89B24C9FBD3C6DFE067E4AB4@homebf0fb2266c> Message-ID: <20100116021335.GB15998@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:04:38PM -1000, blann wrote: > Hi, > Having a problem at boot for my FC5 linux on dual boot with WinXP. I manually > powered down XP while it was trying to install an update. After that, when I went > to boot Fedora, I got a final message: > kernel panic- not syncing- attempted to kill init > before that I got messages "unable to access resume device /dev/Vol Group00/logV01) > could not find filesystem /dev/root > > I have a FC rescue CD which brings up a set of choices- but not sure what to try > short of re-installation. Suggestions welcome- thanks- Marshall > blann at gte.net At the boot: prompt on the rescue CD, put "linux rescue". Answer the dialogs about language and keyboard. When it asks about networking, tell it No. When it offers to find and mount Linux systems, hit "Continue". If it finds only one, it will mount it. If more than one, it will give you a choice. If successful, it will so inform you. Hit OK. At the shell prompt, do these: chroot /mnt/sysimage grub-install /dev/hda # Assumes that is your boot drive exit # or ^D out of the chroot shell exit # or ^D out of the rescue shell and it will reboot. Pop out the CD. If that doesn't work, you may need to repeat, but after the chroot, cd to boot/grub and inspect grub.conf. Drop a note back here to see where we go from there. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com A man's pride brings him low, but a man of lowly spirit gains honor. Proverbs 29:23 (NIV) From blann at gte.net Tue Jan 19 04:04:37 2010 From: blann at gte.net (blann) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:04:37 -1000 Subject: boot problem References: <5F4F556C89B24C9FBD3C6DFE067E4AB4@homebf0fb2266c> <20100116021335.GB15998@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <4CBC7C7449C14F8EA80D6EA5F42B6D99@homebf0fb2266c> Dear Mr. McClure, Many thanks for the kind reply. Before confessing sins since, I put in the rescue CD, and reply to find linux was: 'you don't have any linux partitions' I confess that I tried to run a live disk ubuntu9.10, then did an install . So partition magic 8.0 tells me that my HD looks like: PARTITION TYPE SIZE USED UNUSED STATUS PRI/LOG local[C] NTSF 132GB active primary Local disc[*] linux ext3 103mb 0 0 none " [*] extended 20gb 20gb 0 " " Local disk[E] ntfs 10gb 6.6 10gb " logical disk[*] linux ext3 9.5gb 9.5gb 0 " " swapspace2[*] linux swap 470mb 0.0 470mb " ' Any suggestions as to what I might try? If I try to do a linux fc6 re-install, might this work? Will reinstall find the way to the linux partitions? Thanks for any help on this- Marshall p.s.-the ubuntu was installed on the second ntfs partition which it created from linux space- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McClure Jr" To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: boot problem > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:04:38PM -1000, blann wrote: >> Hi, >> Having a problem at boot for my FC5 linux on dual boot with WinXP. I >> manually >> powered down XP while it was trying to install an update. After that, >> when I went >> to boot Fedora, I got a final message: >> kernel panic- not syncing- attempted to kill init >> before that I got messages "unable to access resume device /dev/Vol >> Group00/logV01) >> could not find filesystem /dev/root >> >> I have a FC rescue CD which brings up a set of choices- but not sure what >> to try >> short of re-installation. Suggestions welcome- thanks- Marshall >> blann at gte.net > > At the boot: prompt on the rescue CD, put "linux rescue". > > Answer the dialogs about language and keyboard. > > When it asks about networking, tell it No. > > When it offers to find and mount Linux systems, hit "Continue". If it > finds only one, it will mount it. If more than one, it will give you > a choice. If successful, it will so inform you. Hit OK. At the > shell prompt, do these: > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > grub-install /dev/hda # Assumes that is your boot drive > exit # or ^D out of the chroot shell > exit # or ^D out of the rescue shell > > and it will reboot. Pop out the CD. > > If that doesn't work, you may need to repeat, but after the chroot, cd > to boot/grub and inspect grub.conf. Drop a note back here to see > where we go from there. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com > A man's pride brings him low, but a man of lowly spirit gains honor. > Proverbs 29:23 (NIV) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From micros50 at verizon.net Wed Jan 20 20:40:19 2010 From: micros50 at verizon.net (Micros50) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:40:19 -0500 Subject: Can't Find printers ?? Message-ID: <1264020019.12970.15.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Hello, I just upgraded one of my machines to Fedora 12. So far so good except when it comes to printing over my network. I have 2 shared printers attached to my network. One (we'll call it "printer A") is a stand alone Ethernet printer connected to my local network via wireless access. The other ("printer B") is connected via a computer and shared over the network via CUPS. Normally when I configure printing (on fedora 11 and previous versions) I open the printer config tool and the printers (both A and B) are automatically detected. However, for some strange reason fedora 12 is not able to see any of these shared networked printers. The ONLY way I could get it to print was to enter the exact IP address of the wireless printer. But that's no good since the printer connects via DHCP and it's address is subject to change. And the other printer (printer B) is not found at all. Any ideas what might be going on here ? Anything simple that I might be overlooking ? I did a quick check of the docs but found nothing specific. Any help, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. Thanks. Ciao John. From tpotter at techmarin.com Wed Jan 20 21:12:38 2010 From: tpotter at techmarin.com (Ted Potter) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:12:38 -0800 Subject: Can't Find printers ?? In-Reply-To: <1264020019.12970.15.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> References: <1264020019.12970.15.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Message-ID: <5ce05201001201312w62d997bfw449517cf683a1b30@mail.gmail.com> check your firewall settings. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Micros50 wrote: > Hello, > > I just upgraded one of my machines to Fedora 12. So far so good except > when it comes to printing over my network. > > I have 2 shared printers attached to my network. One (we'll call it > "printer A") is a stand alone Ethernet printer connected to my local > network via wireless access. The other ("printer B") is connected via a > computer and shared over the network via CUPS. > > Normally when I configure printing (on fedora 11 and previous versions) > I open the printer config tool and the printers (both A and B) are > automatically detected. > > However, for some strange reason fedora 12 is not able to see any of > these shared networked printers. The ONLY way I could get it to print > was to enter the exact IP address of the wireless printer. But that's no > good since the printer connects via DHCP and it's address is subject to > change. And the other printer (printer B) is not found at all. > > Any ideas what might be going on here ? Anything simple that I might be > overlooking ? I did a quick check of the docs but found nothing > specific. Any help, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. Thanks. > > Ciao > > John. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > -- Ted Potter tpotter at techmarin.com "fortuna est qua paratus opportunus per vicis" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From micros50 at verizon.net Wed Jan 20 22:22:00 2010 From: micros50 at verizon.net (Micros50) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:22:00 -0500 Subject: Can't Find printers ?? In-Reply-To: <5ce05201001201312w62d997bfw449517cf683a1b30@mail.gmail.com> References: <1264020019.12970.15.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> <5ce05201001201312w62d997bfw449517cf683a1b30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1264026120.14459.2.camel@manhattan.ruffe.edu> Thanks... That fixed the problem. I was thinking so much about SELinux that I forgot all about checking the default firewall settings. It's all good now. Thanks. Ciao John On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:12 -0800, Ted Potter wrote: > check your firewall settings. > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Micros50 > wrote: > Hello, > > I just upgraded one of my machines to Fedora 12. So far so > good except > when it comes to printing over my network. > > I have 2 shared printers attached to my network. One (we'll > call it > "printer A") is a stand alone Ethernet printer connected to my > local > network via wireless access. The other ("printer B") is > connected via a > computer and shared over the network via CUPS. > > Normally when I configure printing (on fedora 11 and previous > versions) > I open the printer config tool and the printers (both A and B) > are > automatically detected. > > However, for some strange reason fedora 12 is not able to see > any of > these shared networked printers. The ONLY way I could get it > to print > was to enter the exact IP address of the wireless printer. But > that's no > good since the printer connects via DHCP and it's address is > subject to > change. And the other printer (printer B) is not found at all. > > Any ideas what might be going on here ? Anything simple that I > might be > overlooking ? I did a quick check of the docs but found > nothing > specific. Any help, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. > Thanks. > > Ciao > > John. > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > > > > -- > Ted Potter > tpotter at techmarin.com > "fortuna est qua paratus opportunus per vicis" > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe From bob at bobcatos.com Fri Jan 22 05:13:20 2010 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:13:20 -0600 Subject: boot problem In-Reply-To: <4CBC7C7449C14F8EA80D6EA5F42B6D99@homebf0fb2266c> References: <5F4F556C89B24C9FBD3C6DFE067E4AB4@homebf0fb2266c> <20100116021335.GB15998@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4CBC7C7449C14F8EA80D6EA5F42B6D99@homebf0fb2266c> Message-ID: <20100122051320.GA13533@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:04:37PM -1000, blann wrote: > Dear Mr. McClure, > Many thanks for the kind reply. Before confessing sins since, I put > in the rescue CD, and reply to > find linux was: 'you don't have any linux partitions' > I confess that I tried to run a live disk ubuntu9.10, then did an > install . So partition magic 8.0 tells me that > my HD looks like: > PARTITION TYPE SIZE USED UNUSED STATUS PRI/LOG > local[C] NTSF 132GB > active primary > Local disc[*] linux ext3 103mb 0 0 > none " > [*] extended 20gb 20gb 0 > " " > Local disk[E] ntfs 10gb 6.6 10gb " > logical > disk[*] linux ext3 9.5gb 9.5gb 0 > " " > swapspace2[*] linux swap 470mb 0.0 470mb " ' > > Any suggestions as to what I might try? Sorry about the delay in replying. I was hoping someone with more knowledge than I would pipe up, the salutation notwithstanding. Apparently your aborting of the update hosed the partition table. Had you not installed Ubuntu, I would have said that a guru (and not I) could perhaps reconstruct your partition table. But with your fresh installation, all bets are off. > If I try to do a linux fc6 re-install, might this work? To reconstruct your old installation, no. Further, FC6 is way old and no longer supported. I'm not up on Ubuntu versions, but if it's less than a couple years old, it's a much safer installation that FC6 would be. If you want to go back to Fedora, get Fedora 12. If you have high-speed always-on Internet, just get the first CD, and it will do most of the install from Internet resources, saving you the inevitable updates after the install. If you want a free Red-Hat-ish distro that won't end-of-life in 12-18 months, download and install CentOS 5.4, a free superset of RHEL 5.4. > Will reinstall find the way to the linux partitions? No. I think you've overwritten them with Ubuntu. > Thanks for any help on this- Marshall > p.s.-the ubuntu was installed on the second ntfs partition which it > created from linux space- > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McClure Jr" > > To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:13 PM > Subject: Re: boot problem > > > >On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:04:38PM -1000, blann wrote: > >>Hi, > >> Having a problem at boot for my FC5 linux on dual boot with > >>WinXP. I manually > >>powered down XP while it was trying to install an update. After > >>that, when I went > >>to boot Fedora, I got a final message: > >>kernel panic- not syncing- attempted to kill init > >>before that I got messages "unable to access resume device > >>/dev/Vol Group00/logV01) > >>could not find filesystem /dev/root > >> > >>I have a FC rescue CD which brings up a set of choices- but not > >>sure what to try > >>short of re-installation. Suggestions welcome- thanks- Marshall > >>blann at gte.net > > > >At the boot: prompt on the rescue CD, put "linux rescue". > > > >Answer the dialogs about language and keyboard. > > > >When it asks about networking, tell it No. > > > >When it offers to find and mount Linux systems, hit "Continue". If it > >finds only one, it will mount it. If more than one, it will give you > >a choice. If successful, it will so inform you. Hit OK. At the > >shell prompt, do these: > > > > chroot /mnt/sysimage > > grub-install /dev/hda # Assumes that is your boot drive > > exit # or ^D out of the chroot shell > > exit # or ^D out of the rescue shell > > > >and it will reboot. Pop out the CD. > > > >If that doesn't work, you may need to repeat, but after the chroot, cd > >to boot/grub and inspect grub.conf. Drop a note back here to see > >where we go from there. > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com The LORD is my light and my salvation -- whom shall I fear? The LORD is the stronghold of my life -- of whom shall I be afraid? Psalm 27:1 (NIV) From blann at gte.net Thu Jan 21 23:56:13 2010 From: blann at gte.net (blann) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:56:13 -1000 Subject: boot problem References: <5F4F556C89B24C9FBD3C6DFE067E4AB4@homebf0fb2266c> <20100116021335.GB15998@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4CBC7C7449C14F8EA80D6EA5F42B6D99@homebf0fb2266c> <20100122051320.GA13533@bobcat.bobcatos.com> Message-ID: <04D57B686FE445CEA3DFB8ED14DE5A0F@homebf0fb2266c> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McClure Jr" To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:13 PM Subject: Re: boot problem > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:04:37PM -1000, blann wrote: >> Dear Mr. McClure, >> Many thanks for the kind reply. Before confessing sins since, I put >> in the rescue CD, and reply to >> find linux was: 'you don't have any linux partitions' >> I confess that I tried to run a live disk ubuntu9.10, then did an >> install . So partition magic 8.0 tells me that >> my HD looks like: >> PARTITION TYPE SIZE USED UNUSED STATUS PRI/LOG >> local[C] NTSF 132GB >> active primary >> Local disc[*] linux ext3 103mb 0 0 >> none " >> [*] extended 20gb 20gb 0 >> " " >> Local disk[E] ntfs 10gb 6.6 10gb " >> logical >> disk[*] linux ext3 9.5gb 9.5gb 0 >> " " >> swapspace2[*] linux swap 470mb 0.0 470mb " >> ' >> >> Any suggestions as to what I might try? > > Sorry about the delay in replying. I was hoping someone with more > knowledge than I would pipe up, the salutation notwithstanding. > > Apparently your aborting of the update hosed the partition table. Had > you not installed Ubuntu, I would have said that a guru (and not I) > could perhaps reconstruct your partition table. But with your fresh > installation, all bets are off. > On the UBUNTU install, the claim was that it would find blank space on a partition, create a new ntfs partition, and install ubuntu there. I note a new ntfs partition of 10gb, adjacent to a 9.5 gb native linux plus linux swap partitions- so wonder if this is not my fc6 installation? Then I need to know what to try to open that partition (9.5gb native linux)? One thought was to use the linux update option of the install- assuming fc6 supports this, install a few ptions only, and hope that I will then be given the option of re-installing the lilo boot menu. If this fails- or likely even if it does not, I expect to try a fc12 install on a second, presently unused HD on my computer- or does the community advise other than FC12? My main use is fortran compile/execute, LATEX, xmgrace- but things I presently do in WinXP might migrate to linux depending on available software (photo,video editing). The UBUNTU installation used was 9.10- which I believe is new. Will FC12 install on an ntfs partition? Any decrease in performance? Thanks to the community for support- Marshall >> If I try to do a linux fc6 re-install, might this work? > > To reconstruct your old installation, no. Further, FC6 is way old and > no longer supported. I'm not up on Ubuntu versions, but if it's less > than a couple years old, it's a much safer installation that FC6 would > be. > > If you want to go back to Fedora, get Fedora 12. If you have > high-speed always-on Internet, just get the first CD, and it will do > most of the install from Internet resources, saving you the inevitable > updates after the install. > > If you want a free Red-Hat-ish distro that won't end-of-life in 12-18 > months, download and install CentOS 5.4, a free superset of RHEL 5.4. > >> Will reinstall find the way to the linux partitions? > > No. I think you've overwritten them with Ubuntu. > >> Thanks for any help on this- Marshall >> p.s.-the ubuntu was installed on the second ntfs partition which it >> created from linux space- >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McClure Jr" >> >> To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" >> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:13 PM >> Subject: Re: boot problem >> >> >> >On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:04:38PM -1000, blann wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >> Having a problem at boot for my FC5 linux on dual boot with >> >>WinXP. I manually >> >>powered down XP while it was trying to install an update. After >> >>that, when I went >> >>to boot Fedora, I got a final message: >> >>kernel panic- not syncing- attempted to kill init >> >>before that I got messages "unable to access resume device >> >>/dev/Vol Group00/logV01) >> >>could not find filesystem /dev/root >> >> >> >>I have a FC rescue CD which brings up a set of choices- but not >> >>sure what to try >> >>short of re-installation. Suggestions welcome- thanks- Marshall >> >>blann at gte.net >> > >> >At the boot: prompt on the rescue CD, put "linux rescue". >> > >> >Answer the dialogs about language and keyboard. >> > >> >When it asks about networking, tell it No. >> > >> >When it offers to find and mount Linux systems, hit "Continue". If it >> >finds only one, it will mount it. If more than one, it will give you >> >a choice. If successful, it will so inform you. Hit OK. At the >> >shell prompt, do these: >> > >> > chroot /mnt/sysimage >> > grub-install /dev/hda # Assumes that is your boot drive >> > exit # or ^D out of the chroot shell >> > exit # or ^D out of the rescue shell >> > >> >and it will reboot. Pop out the CD. >> > >> >If that doesn't work, you may need to repeat, but after the chroot, cd >> >to boot/grub and inspect grub.conf. Drop a note back here to see >> >where we go from there. >> > >> >Cheers, >> >-- >> >Bob McClure, Jr. > > Cheers, > -- > Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. > bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com > The LORD is my light and my salvation -- whom shall I fear? The LORD > is the stronghold of my life -- of whom shall I be afraid? > Psalm 27:1 (NIV) > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-install-list mailing list > Redhat-install-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list > To Unsubscribe Go To ABOVE URL or send a message to: > redhat-install-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: unsubscribe > From bob at bobcatos.com Fri Jan 22 19:44:47 2010 From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:44:47 -0600 Subject: boot problem In-Reply-To: <04D57B686FE445CEA3DFB8ED14DE5A0F@homebf0fb2266c> References: <5F4F556C89B24C9FBD3C6DFE067E4AB4@homebf0fb2266c> <20100116021335.GB15998@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <4CBC7C7449C14F8EA80D6EA5F42B6D99@homebf0fb2266c> <20100122051320.GA13533@bobcat.bobcatos.com> <04D57B686FE445CEA3DFB8ED14DE5A0F@homebf0fb2266c> Message-ID: <20100122194447.GA4780@bobcat.bobcatos.com> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:56:13PM -1000, blann wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McClure Jr" > > To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: boot problem > > > >On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:04:37PM -1000, blann wrote: > >>Dear Mr. McClure, > >>Many thanks for the kind reply. Before confessing sins since, I put > >>in the rescue CD, and reply to > >>find linux was: 'you don't have any linux partitions' > >>I confess that I tried to run a live disk ubuntu9.10, then did an > >>install . So partition magic 8.0 tells me that > >>my HD looks like: > >>PARTITION TYPE SIZE USED UNUSED STATUS PRI/LOG > >>local[C] NTSF 132GB > >>active primary > >>Local disc[*] linux ext3 103mb 0 0 > >>none " > >>[*] extended 20gb 20gb 0 > >>" " > >>Local disk[E] ntfs 10gb 6.6 10gb " > >>logical > >>disk[*] linux ext3 9.5gb 9.5gb 0 > >>" " > >>swapspace2[*] linux swap 470mb 0.0 470mb " ' > >> > >>Any suggestions as to what I might try? > > > >Sorry about the delay in replying. I was hoping someone with more > >knowledge than I would pipe up, the salutation notwithstanding. > > > >Apparently your aborting of the update hosed the partition table. Had > >you not installed Ubuntu, I would have said that a guru (and not I) > >could perhaps reconstruct your partition table. But with your fresh > >installation, all bets are off. > > > On the UBUNTU install, the claim was that it would find blank space > on a partition, > create a new ntfs partition, and install ubuntu there. I note a new > ntfs partition of 10gb, > adjacent to a 9.5 gb native linux plus linux swap partitions- so > wonder if this is not my fc6 installation? Hmm. I guess so. > Then I need to know what to try to open that partition (9.5gb native > linux)? One thought was to > use the linux update option of the install- assuming fc6 supports > this, install a few ptions only, and hope that > I will then be given the option of re-installing the lilo boot menu. > If this fails- or likely even if it does not, Given that the rescue disk couldn't find any evidence of a Linux install, I'd be really surprised if you could resurrect a working FC6 installation. However, you can use your Ubuntu installation to mount what's believed to be your old FC6 partition. I'd do it something like this (as root): mkdir /fc6 mount /dev/hda4 /fc6 # replace "hda4" with whatever the FC6 # partition is. Then you can inspect it and see what's there. First, look at /fc6/etc/issue. That will tell you if it's your FC6 install. If you find a complete /fc6/home directory there, I'd copy it off to your Ubuntu installation or burn it to a CD. I'd also copy off the /fc6/etc directory if you want to recover system configuration stuff, including the password file, network config and such. > I expect to try a fc12 install on a second, presently unused HD on > my computer- or does the community > advise other than FC12? F12 (they've dropped the "C" after FC6) would be a fine choice. I would install F12 in the partition where FC6 was. Then you can backfill the /home directory you copied off. > My main use is fortran compile/execute, > LATEX, xmgrace- but things I > presently do in WinXP might migrate to linux depending on available > software (photo,video editing). Fedora 12 is more likely to offer the tools you need. > The UBUNTU installation used was 9.10- which I believe is new. > Will FC12 install on an ntfs partition? I don't think so, but then there's no need to. Just change it to a linux partition. F12 may offer to make ext4 filesystems, but you can make them ext3 if Ubuntu doesn't support ext4. > Any decrease in performance? NTFS: Just say no. > Thanks to the community for support- Marshall > > >>If I try to do a linux fc6 re-install, might this work? > > > >To reconstruct your old installation, no. Further, FC6 is way old and > >no longer supported. I'm not up on Ubuntu versions, but if it's less > >than a couple years old, it's a much safer installation that FC6 would > >be. > > > >If you want to go back to Fedora, get Fedora 12. If you have > >high-speed always-on Internet, just get the first CD, and it will do > >most of the install from Internet resources, saving you the inevitable > >updates after the install. > > > >If you want a free Red-Hat-ish distro that won't end-of-life in 12-18 > >months, download and install CentOS 5.4, a free superset of RHEL 5.4. > > > >>Will reinstall find the way to the linux partitions? > > > >No. I think you've overwritten them with Ubuntu. > > > >>Thanks for any help on this- Marshall > >>p.s.-the ubuntu was installed on the second ntfs partition which it > >>created from linux space- > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob McClure Jr" > >> > >>To: "Getting started with Red Hat Linux" > >>Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:13 PM > >>Subject: Re: boot problem > >> > >> > >>>On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:04:38PM -1000, blann wrote: > >>>>Hi, > >>>> Having a problem at boot for my FC5 linux on dual boot with > >>>>WinXP. I manually > >>>>powered down XP while it was trying to install an update. After > >>>>that, when I went > >>>>to boot Fedora, I got a final message: > >>>>kernel panic- not syncing- attempted to kill init > >>>>before that I got messages "unable to access resume device > >>>>/dev/Vol Group00/logV01) > >>>>could not find filesystem /dev/root > >>>> > >>>>I have a FC rescue CD which brings up a set of choices- but not > >>>>sure what to try > >>>>short of re-installation. Suggestions welcome- thanks- Marshall > >>>>blann at gte.net > >>> > >>>At the boot: prompt on the rescue CD, put "linux rescue". > >>> > >>>Answer the dialogs about language and keyboard. > >>> > >>>When it asks about networking, tell it No. > >>> > >>>When it offers to find and mount Linux systems, hit "Continue". If it > >>>finds only one, it will mount it. If more than one, it will give you > >>>a choice. If successful, it will so inform you. Hit OK. At the > >>>shell prompt, do these: > >>> > >>> chroot /mnt/sysimage > >>> grub-install /dev/hda # Assumes that is your boot drive > >>> exit # or ^D out of the chroot shell > >>> exit # or ^D out of the rescue shell > >>> > >>>and it will reboot. Pop out the CD. > >>> > >>>If that doesn't work, you may need to repeat, but after the chroot, cd > >>>to boot/grub and inspect grub.conf. Drop a note back here to see > >>>where we go from there. > >>> > >>>Cheers, > >>>-- >Bob McClure, Jr. > > > >Cheers, > >-- > >Bob McClure, Jr. Cheers, -- Bob McClure, Jr. Bobcat Open Systems, Inc. bob at bobcatos.com http://www.bobcatos.com If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:2 (NIV)